
Episode 4511: WarRoom Special: Live From West Point Cont....
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Steve Gruber
Daniel is carried out. James D. Justice, Brian A. King what you see right there is the corps cadets getting their diplomas right as cadets. Let's go to see. We have a technical problem because there's so much trying to download at Mikey Stadium. Let's go to Steve Gruber. Steve, your thoughts and observations about what you've seen in the ceremony and of course, the president's historical historic remark. Sir.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
It is a stirring ceremony to say the least. Steve, it's been a wonderful day here. President Trump very well received. By the way, you've got the underclassmen down in the north end zone and it's pretty clear that they don't consider Russia to be the enemy, that they consider China. That was one of the later comments in the speech there. But boy, did they boo China. Not much response to Russia, but they know what their assignment is. All of these people going forward, keeping America safe. It's been a remarkable day here. I was surprised. It struck me having come to Mikey Stadium here for a West Point graduation for the first time that in my career, the number of women here, of course women joined West Point 1976 after Gerald Ford signed them in. 119 women began this journey in 1976 and a lot of them here today, as you know, Steve, carrying with them the honor. And there was one gentleman that Donald Trump, he called on a bunch of different folks, graduating cadets out of the audience. They were very stirring, had a number of them come up to the microphone. But there was one that he called out whose grandfather had served in World War I and his maybe his great grandfather, World War I grandfather, World War II and his entire family. His mother and others had graduated here. His father died in service 2004. I think that was a particularly strange and I think that it showed the emotion of this president, his connection with the military. They feel a kinship with Donald Trump as their commander in chief. And here come the helicopters overhead right now. I think There is your 47th president flying over West Point. A remarkable moment, Steve, as Marine One exits the stadium, flying over and letting the cadets here know that the commander in chief is with them. I think it has been a remarkable day.
Steve Gruber
Steve, what was so amazing about his presentation? The president showed so much humanity about bringing cadets up and really bonding with the cadets and then geopolitically making a commitment that culture is destiny, our culture is winning, and we're not going to put people in harm's way, particularly these young second lieutenants, unless we are committed to win the military endeavors, the wars and the conflicts we're in your thoughts, sir.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
I agree with that completely. Let's reflect on Donald Trump's recent journey to the Middle east, to Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Qatar. His message as a candidate before November 5th and through that journey last week and through today is a message of peace through strength. We will have the most powerful military in the world. We hope not to use it, but you graduates here, 2025 at West Point, if we do go to war, you'll have the best equipment, the best ability to win. And we will win decisively. We will not back down. And again, I come back to the comments about Russia and China, Donald Trump asserting military strength. Of course, coming up on June 14, Flag Day, which is also the president's birthday, he will be overseeing a military parade in Washington, D.C. to mark 250 years of the United States military. So his kinship, like I said, again, is reflected in his remarks. And you're right, the humanity that he brought by recognizing so many cadets and having them up at the podium with him and respecting them and the women that had great achievement here today and recognizing those. And then Chris, who is quite an accomplishment, setting a new mark by 13 minutes, but then also being a century man, and the whole crowd thought that was good fun. The sentryman who, you know, maybe a little bit more problematic in their time at West Point, but recognizing that is humanity, too. You've got people here that are, you know, they're not all the same. They're from all walks of life, all corners of this country, and all willing to serve this great nation going forward. And I think that was the remarkable thing here today. It wasn't a traditional Trump campaign speech or a rally speech. It was him connecting with young members of the military, the second lieutenants going forward. And I think that he really commanded the audience here today. Obviously, it's an audience that likes him, supports him, and as their commander in chief, are with him in that pursuit of peace through strength.
Steve Gruber
Now talk about that. Right now. We're seeing and on the screen, you're seeing the graduates, the firsties. This is this is really their last evolution as cadets. They're getting the diploma they already heard from their commander in chief. They will quickly, once they leave in, they'll do the hat tossing, some other classic historic traditions that we'll see here in a moment. Then they will go back to the barracks. They will change out of their cadet uniforms. They'll take photos of their family. Last time, they will be in their cadet uniforms. And then they will change into their second lieutenant uniforms and then be sworn in. They will take their oath as officers normally in smaller ceremonies throughout West Point today. It's a very, very powerful moment for the families. Have seen the struggle of these kids through the four years or in Chris's situation, five years. Talk about that for a second. Chris was, had beaten the obstacle courser this nighttime run by 12 or 13 minutes. And this is an international competition against Sandhurst, against I think Saint Cyr in France, all the different military academies. I think he broke that record by 12 or 13 minutes. Then moments later, when President Trump is giving acknowledging the best and the brightest out of the corps of cadets, he talks about the sentrymen, which I think have had 100 hours or something of marching for demerits, which calls up people like General Ulysses Grant, Patton, Trump, George Custer, Pickett, others who were, who were at the bottom of the class but, but great war fighters. It was, it was a great moment. And then when Chris stood up. Steve, walk me through that. When Krista Trump. Trump. Trump absolutely loved it, did he not? Okay, realizes there's good and bad. Let's go. Oh, there. Go ahead, sir. Yeah, go ahead, sir.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
I was going to say Donald Trump had a great moment there calling Chris out. Yeah, the century men, the ones that spent the most time marching around the campus of West Point to atone for their bad behavior, I guess. But let me tell you this. I would put Chris in my foxhole. A guy, he beat the international market by 13 minutes. That's no small feat. That's the guy I want next to me. A guy who's got some courage, some guts, willing to think outside the box. And hey, if he gets himself a little bit of trouble here and there, Donald Trump thought that was very humorous and so did we all. We all had a good chuckle out of.
Steve Gruber
Steve. Talk to me about the corps of cadets is in the, you see right there on the left hand side of the screen, we have a split screen. You see the corps of cadets. Not the first. He's not the graduates corps, cadets in white in, in the, in the, in the end zone. Talk to me about the reception. All of this. People are shocked that President Trump resonates so much with young people. Obviously the vote went his way with young people. But talk to us about the reception. You were there, the reception that the younger cadets had for President Trump.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
Well, those younger cadets came in here very early, Steve. They came in about 8 o' clock this morning, maybe a bit before then. And that's back and they're in T shirts and short sleeves and it was raining, as I told you earlier. They sat out there the whole time, but they by far were the most vocal group in this entire stadium when it came to Donald Trump. And I've said this before, and I think you could reflect on this a little bit. I believe the younger generation right now is the most patriotic generation in many, many years, far more than the last couple when it comes to support of Donald Trump. And I go back to things that are like the students at North Carolina and Alabama that went in and defended the American flag. These were fraternity brothers and so forth that we saw on tv. And that's reflected here in this group in the end zone here. These younger cassettes very much identify with Donald Trump, very much identify with his America first agenda. They are all bought in. And you could tell every time that somebody said they were loud, they were vocal, they were supportive, they were patriotic, they're the real deal here. And I think that's an incredibly important thing you pointed out, because this younger generation, you're right, younger people voted for Donald Trump. And I guarantee you the number of people voting in that end zone for Donald Trump, I don't know if it was consensus, but it'd be darn close, I can assure you of that. Based on the reaction every time Donald Trump did something, they were cheering, they were booing China, they were cheering the idea of America having the best military. And when he talked about increasing equipment and spending, and they were, like I said, by far the most vocal group in this entire stadium all day were the young cadets down there. And white on the split screen on the left there, you can see them in the background. And they are fired up for this America first agenda. And so you'll see graduates out of that group over the next couple years. They'll join the long gray line in the years to come. And I can tell you right now, they have Donald Trump's back. But more importantly, Steve, they have America's back.
Steve Gruber
Steve, I think it's very important you see the tradition of the long gray line. You're seeing the graduating class, the first firsties are what they're called the senior class getting their diplomas. Now, really the last evolution for them in this long, four, sometimes five years, this incredible grind. I can tell you through Mo's experience, it is a grind for these kids to get through all the military and the very high standard academics. Like I said, everybody either majors in engineering or minors in engineering. So it's a very tough academic process. I think what you're seeing, Gruber, is that The DNA of this country, the patriotism. And that's what's so important today. And I think it's why President Trump wanted to come in that magnificent speech where he connected with the humanity of the corps and the professionalism and also had this kind of speech that laid out the fact that, you know, he wants peace and prosperity. He will do this through partnerships that, you know, it's peace through strength. And people will not, these dictators won't double cross Trump because that's why he had peace in his first term. He didn't see Putin, he didn't see the Chinese, you didn't see Hamas. You didn't see anybody trying to go to a violent conflict because they knew President Trump would drop the hammer. But I think very, very important, this connection. And Steve Gruber, let me have your comments before we go to break. We got a couple minutes about these kids have been the ones that have come through an education system that has been total propaganda for them. These are kids in their late teens, early 20s that are graduating. Your thoughts, sir?
Patrick K. O'Donnell
Well, and you make a big point there. But there's this evolution, this change of leadership, change in the commander in chief. Certainly that is bringing back a more traditional education, dumping DEI and WOKE policies. But I want to reflect a little bit on what you just said there, Steve, and that is Donald Trump's approach to diplomacy and peace. He brought India and Pakistan to the table and said, if you don't play ball and stop shooting each other, we will remove trade from you. So he used economic leverage to bring peace to that region. He's willing to talk to anybody. He's made that clear with his comments on Syria and Lebanon. He will talk to anybody, even people that have been out of the League of civilized nations, if you will. Like Syria has been out of the conversation for a good two decades. He's inviting them back in and he gets criticized for that. And I don't think that that's a, I don't think that's a fair assessment because he's willing to talk to anybody, including the enemies of America, to say, look, can we find common ground? When he went and crossed the DMZ with Kim Jong Un comes to mind. He's willing to go to places that American presidents have not gone in pursuit of peace, but not without taking the big stick with him. As Teddy Roosevelt would say, he takes the big stick and says, look, we have the American military. We will do what needs to be done to protect this nation. But he'll also put out the olive branch of peace in pursuit of a conciliatory world, a world of peace. It's what he ran on. It's what he's trying to deliver. It's why he's working so hard with Steve Witkoff and others to try to deliver peace in Ukraine, to try to deliver peace in Gaza, to prevent wars between Pakistan and India and to tell these recruits that we hope for peace. We hope that you don't have to go fight wars. We hope that the young man whose father died in 2004 in Iraq, that he doesn't have to you'll see the same sort of thing. But if it comes to that, he's want to back them with the best equipment, the best training, the best education and without woke nonsense and dei.
Steve Gruber
Yeah, I think we can say we're going to Short commercial break. I got Steve Gruber at Mikey Stadium. We have Patrick K. O' Donnell, the great combat historian in studio. We're going to be joined by a very special guest when we come back after after break. And I think we can say, and I think the Warren posse would agree with this today historic coverage and by the way, real America's voice going to let us go past 12 noon as we incorporate all this, including the classic hat toss at the end. This is what we voted for, no doubt. Short commercial break we're going to be back to United States Military Academy, Mikey Stadium and our wall to wall coverage of the graduation of the class of 2025. They have all I do long.
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R. McLaughlin, Molly D. Kim. Okay, Lawrence W. Minnie Johnson. See, we're in the M's and they're, they're, they're ripping through this. Got two lines going. These are the cadets, the long gray line, getting their diplomas today. Like we said before, this is their last evolution as cadets. They will finish do the, we will do the, I think they're sing the alma mater, then they'll do the famous hat toss. Then they will go and uh, our coverage will wrap up after that and then they will go and change their cadet uniforms. The last time they wear the uniforms as cadets, uniforms they've worn for four years, sometimes five years. And they will change into their military uniforms as second lieutenants and they will go have their bars put on them in their commissioning ceremony, which is done by family group and smaller groups throughout the day. I think. Have we lost? I think Mo took off to go down as a board member. I think she's out doing her. Do we, do we have Mo? Okay, fine. Any closing comments? I know you got a bounce. And any observations on what you've seen today. I mean, President Trump, the humanity he had with connecting. President Trump gave an address that was over an hour long, connected with the cadets. Tremendous response by the parents and the corps cadets and, and then. But also gave a speech that had I think pretty big geopolitical impact, including on a day after he blew out 100 deep staters out of the National Security Council and sent them back to the Pentagon or sent them back to the, to the, to the CIA or DHS or Justice Department. I actually think they ought to be sent home permanently. But that's a topic for another day. Mo, your observations on, on, on what you, what you saw today.
Mo
I thought it was a great speech by President Trump. He addressed the corps of cadets, not only the underclassmen that were sitting in the audience, but the graduating class. What he expected of them and what he plans to do in these next four years for the military. You know, he's going to make sure that they have everything that they need and that this is going to be the strongest military again. You know, he rebuilt the military after President Obama weakened it, he built it back up and he is going to do that again after President Biden and it pains me to say that word before Biden's name. However, he is going to strengthen it again after this last four years. So this class has A great commander in chief. I'm truly honored to be here and to see them graduate. And I also, I thought it was great. Not only did President Trump bring up athletes, he brought up the cadet whose father passed away in 2004. That was very touching. And the fact that his dad's class ring, part of it was melted into this current class's class ring. So they will, this entire class will carry a part of that, their classmate, their classmate's dad with them in their class ring. And I also thought it was pretty cool how President Trump brought up that cadet that completed the ruck march in two hours. And then when he asked for the cadets that were part of the Century Club, which for the audience, if they don't know, it's if you get in trouble and you're forced to walk hours inside, basically inside between the barracks, the asphalt, if you have to walk there with your rifle, four hours, depending on how many you got, or if you're a athlete like myself, I might have had to sit a few hours, but for members that he asked to stand up, they had over 100 hours marching. So that cadet that went up there that completed the ruck in two hours was also part of the Century Club. So I thought it was pretty funny that President Trump made a comment about that in his speech as well.
Steve Gruber
No, it's amazing. And also the other thing was the culture. Culture is destiny, and the culture of winning is what he's trying to reinstall and reinstill in America. And particularly at the academy, he committed never to send these, these young people into a conflict that he wasn't prepared to win. And he talked about isis, which I was there at the time, and Obama told us, take a generation to destroy the caliphate. President Trump destroyed it, I don't know. In six weeks to six months. It was gone pretty quickly when people told us it would take decades. MO Any closing observations before you let your punch? And we're going to get ste. Steve Gruber up. Let's go ahead and text Gruber. Any closing thoughts?
Mo
MO like you said, President Trump has no plans to get us into forever wars again. And I hope that this class does not have to live through a forever war like my class and many before me did. And I believe in my heart that President Trump will make sure, like you said, that we do not get into any conflicts, but if we must, that we will win those conflicts. So I truly support our commander in chief, and I know these graduates do as well.
Steve Gruber
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Mo
You can find me on Getter and Twitter at Maureen Underscore Bannon and Instagram at Real Maureen Bannon. I've been trying to post during my time at Mikey Stadium, but cell service has been spotty. So I will get up my pictures and stuff after the graduation ceremony.
Steve Gruber
Okay, Mo, good job. Talk to you later. Great job. Thank you. Want to thank Real America's Voice for. Let's continue this coverage right now. The. The. I think we're to the S's. I think we're to the S's and going to the. These are the 1,000 cadets that are getting their diplomas. President Trump spoke for over an hour and I think one of his best addresses I've heard a mixture of high policy direction of the country, what he's attempting to do and had just tremendous humanity. And I can tell you as a parent that has been at these, at one of these graduations, the connection he made with the class is what, you know, you just sit there and go, the sacrifices these kids have made for the last four or five years, plus the sacrifices they're about to be made. Remember this afternoon they're going to be, they're going to be commissioned as second lieutenants right after graduation. Do we have. Can we let Steve Gruber text him? And let's bring, let's bring Gruber. Gruber is actually on the field in Mikey Stadium in the warm.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
I think it's a privilege and an honor to sit here and watch this graduation. 1002 cadets. They started with somewhere just shy of 1300 when this class embarked on its journey to become the, the new leaders of the United States military, United States Army. And it really is a privilege. I've never been to this event previously and I feel honored to be here. And I felt honored to see the President of the United States who's obviously taking us on a different journey. I heard you mention that he's going back to work more on the Ukraine, Russian war to see if he can bring some resolution to that. And that was the message as he continues here today is peace through strength. And I think it resonated very well with the cadets here. Of course, in a moment here we'll have the hat toss as tradition continues. Tradition is a big part of what West Point is. Obviously West Point has stood here since the Revolutionary War. It's not lost on the people here. It reflects in everyone that comes through this academy. And you mentioned this too, Steven. I think this is important. These are the best of the best. These are high excelling students, athletes Leaders, people that have all the ingredients to be, be the next great leaders of the United States military, maybe to be instructors here at West Point, maybe to lead America into battle, but maybe to lead us into the peace. And again, that was the message. It has been the message on this president. He does not want to be the president of endless wars. He doesn't want to have folly. He wants to talk to the countries of this world to bring peace through strength. And he's willing to use levers that have been used in the past, economic levers, trade levers, tariff levers to pursue peace. And I think that is what is so special about this president. I also heard you mention, Steve, that I was surprised by the number of women. I was and I am. I didn't realize that about 20 or 25% of this class are in fact women. You obviously have a close understanding of that with MO but for me, it was a revelation and a good one. I certainly don't. I would take anybody here in my foxhole, to be honest with you. As we head into this next critical phase of American history and world history, look, a lot of ignition points right now, be it China or Russia or Ukraine or Iran, we have a lot of places where conflict could begin. And hopefully this president heading back to work on peace can get us there. But these cadets, they're here standing ready, willing and able to do whatever it takes to defend this country in an America first world. And God bless him for doing that. And it is truly an honor and a blessing for me to be here today.
Steve Gruber
Steve, for the parents in the, in the audience that responded so strongly for President Trump, I'd like your observations on. He can't. Oh, okay. Steve, can you hear me? Because I got a question about. He made a commitment. I'm only going to send these troops in battles on wars are going to win. I'm really peace through strength. Okay. We don't have any return for Steve. Ias. Let me go to Patrick K. O' Donnell. We'll get Steve up in a minute with. We're having a text, couple couple points, you know, technical. Go ahead, Patrick.
Chris
Go ahead, Steve. To springboard a little bit off of what Maureen mentioned about women in combat. You know, West Point has a really rich tradition with women in combat, especially our first combat veteran comes from the Revolutionary War. And this is a really great untold story that I uncovered in my next book. It's Margaret Corbett who is in the Battle of Fort Washington on November 16, 1776. The fort's surrounded and they have the first Pennsylvania, they have a battery of cannon, and she's next to her husband, and he is manning the gun, and he's wounded, and she takes over for him and mans the gun and keeps it firing. But in the process, she's very critically wounded, almost to the point of mortal wound, and she recovers. But she is in the core of invalids at West Point. She is a, you know, a member of the US Military at West Point during the war, and she is the first woman to receive a military pension from the United States government.
Steve Gruber
By the way, right there, I think that might be the. I think that might be the tradition of the. Of the anchorman of last in the class. And remember, some of the best combat leaders we've had have been the people that are at the bottom of the class. In fact, I was at one of Mo's, her first dinner that starts the first year, and they had, like two or three generals had shown up from Iraq and asked the cadets at the bottom of the class to stand up the bottom hundred. And they said all three of us were in the bottom hundred. I think two were in the bottom ten. So the anchor, the. The traditional anchorman, which. The tradition, I think everybody gives them a dollar as a. As a. As a kind of a tribute. But these turn out to be some of the best combat leaders we have. Patrick, talk about. I want to go back. Why you're the historian here. Why is West Point been so central to. Even before the academy was built? The reason the academy is built there is for a reason. Why was it so important for General Washington and the Revolution to the degree that Benedict Arnold made a deal with the British behind the scenes, under the table, to give it back to him? What is it about West Point that was actually almost legendary even before the academy came in 1802?
Chris
The key is the Hudson River. Basically, whoever controls the Hudson river would control, be able to divide the colonies, a large portion of the northern colonies and part of the southern colonies from New York. And if you recall, back in 1777, the British plan was to divide that by coming down from Canada. They met at Saratoga. But there was a plan potentially to have a force, a larger force come up and meet them. And, you know, Lord Howe went over to Philadelphia instead. But a smaller force did come up and they defeated some of the small forts that were there. West Point becomes kind of the linchpin of those defenses guarding the Hudson River. They have this massive chain that they build to blockade the river from British ships from going up it. And then West Point and other forts in and around the area are the absolute key to the defense. And, you know, basically, they strengthen those defenses after the Battle of Saratoga, which is a glorious American victory, which leads to French involvement. Then they strengthen the forts up at West Point and others to prevent the British from potentially taking over Hudson River.
Steve Gruber
Patrick, you talk about the Hudson river. When people go, and I just want to describe it to you, you go across the famous plains of West Point. And that is not to be walked on or stepped on by any civilians, only cadets and members of the military. This is kind of sacred space. And the reason this is where the Continental army was really hammered in to being by. By Polish officers that had come and Washington had felt that they had the drill. They really understood the drills that were needed by European armies to instill. But when you're there, it's actually. You're looking down, and it's like a mountain gorge, the Hudson River. This is not like around New York. As you get up the Hudson at West Point in this big turn it takes at West Point to go up, you're literally in a mountain gorge. West Point's on a very high cliff where the plains is. That looks over this at the bottom. You're right. And people almost think it's, like, insane. They. They put a chain. They put a chain, a shot of chain across the entire river to essentially block. Try to block the British from coming up. And this is one of the whole reasons that Benedict Arnold. It was such a strategic location, because it's really the high ground on the Hudson. And the Hudson was considered the central, at least in the beginning of the war, the central zone of conflict, because to control the Hudson, you would break off the more radical New England and particularly the John Adams, the Sam Adams, the Hancocks, and the revolutionary fervor of Lexington and Concord and obviously Bunker Hill, of which we're coming up to in just a couple of weeks. That's why there was such a big deal, and this is why it was such a central part of the formation of the American army, that this is really. Patrick, in your thoughts about hammering really what was militia and really backwoodsmen into an army that could actually withstand the onslaught of, really, one of the best field armies in the world, and that was the British Expeditionary force. Your thoughts, sir?
Chris
Yeah. This is. The Hudson Valley is an absolutely crucial area, as I mentioned, you know, beginning in 1777, Battle of Saratoga. And then we move forward in time, and the British continually try to creep up the Hudson. And I brought out in my book Washington's Immortals. The Battle of Stony Point, which is really one of the great special operations missions of the American Revolution. The British capture Stony Point, which is a little bit below West Point, and then they fortify it with about 19 guns and they build some Attabay and other things. And Washington sends in his light infantry. And these are men that are lightly armed. They're early precursor to special operations forces. They surround the fort and they seize it, and they take hundreds of prisoners. It's an incredible story. It's around this time that you know Benedict Arnold, who's really one of the great heroes of the early American Revolution, he's vitally important up north in Canada. He's vitally important at Saratoga. But many things occur that he is. You know, his honor is tarnished.
Steve Gruber
Hold on, hang on. At Saratoga, which was the. When Burgoyne's army surrenders. And I still think the biggest victory we had. If you actually talk about a military victory in the entire war, Benedict Arnold was absolutely central on the last day of Saratoga. It was his leadership on the battlefield. When he was told by Gates, critically restricted. Critically. This is what starts his whole downward spiral of what led him in really his madness and his bitterness about that and not being recognized like Gates, to actually betray his country. Tell me about that.
Chris
Yeah, there's a number of things that happen. And he's also accused of profiteering. Later on, a lot of these things are dismissed. But it really doesn't sit well with him at all. He's a guy that sacrifices everything for his country. And he's critically wounded, in tremendous pain after a musket ball strikes his leg and he's crippled from it. And he decides to betray his country. And he is the commander at West Point. And he decides to weaken West Point's defenses deliberately and then deliver the plans to General Clinton on where the American forces are deployed in return for being a brigadier general within the British army, which he turns coat and then he becomes a general within their army. And he's a fairly effective general.
Steve Gruber
Talk to me about West Point as a historian. And you've done, I think, every war. Now you're doing a series on the Revolution. You've got a new book out about the Civil War, West Point through the ages. Right now you're seeing what we call the Long Gray Line. And this you saw in March in a day. Very powerful. But this is connective to tissue for every American war all the way back to the. To Thomas Jefferson's administration. Walk me through the importance of West Point in American memory. American Culture and in the actual fighting, combat fighting of our military, sir, it's.
Chris
You know, in many cases, a great general or leader can change the course of history. And what we've seen is many of these corporations, great leaders, come from West Point, either Robert E. Lee, for instance, or Ulysses S. Grant, who, as you mentioned, graduates at the bottom of his class. But he's really one of the greatest military leaders in history, and he's also a great president. Maybe his greatest accomplishment is at Appomattox, where he recognizes the importance of respect and forgiveness. And as he defeats Robert E. Lee, he offers an olive branch and a way of reconciliation which will change our country. And it's at Appomattox that I bring out in the unvanquished that the healing begins and we start to come back together. But it's Grant's terms at Appomattox of paroling Lee's army versus putting everybody in a POW cage, which has just this traumatic transformative effect of where men are going home. And there's still, you know, 250,000 Confederates in the field. But as these other armies are still fighting, they're seeing men go home to their homes, which has a completely demoralizing effect on their ability to continue to fight. And, you know, once you lose that, it's very tough to get. Keep fighting as an insurgency.
Steve Gruber
Hey, Patrick. Patrick, hang on for a second. We're going to take a short commercial break. They're still going through the cadets themselves, getting their diplomas. We're going to continue this to its. To its culmination. Still a few more things to do. Let's go and take a short commercial break. We'll be back in real America's Voice and the War Rooms. Continual coverage of the graduation ceremony at West Point. The United States Military Command. Go and go.
Maureen Bannon
That's it, sir.
Steve Gruber
Parker C. Massey. Okay, we're returning to the last few. Here we go.
Chris
Emma L. McGovern.
Steve Gruber
William F. Niven. Michael M. Nick Waselic, Nelly B. Ray.
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Matthew D. Rhodes. Carl J. Stalberg.
Steve Gruber
Grayson M. Stewart, Ronald D. Taylor, Jr.
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Steve Gruber
Okay, we've given out the last diploma to the Long Gray Line. We're going to continue with our coverage.
Chris
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Steve Gruber
Ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the singing of the alma mater.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
SA.
Steve Gruber
Ra.
Chris
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Steve Gruber
Cup.
Mo
Class, recover.
Brigadier General R.J. Garcia
Please remain standing while the oath of.
Steve Gruber
Office is administered to the Class of.
Brigadier General R.J. Garcia
2025 by the United States Military Academy.
Steve Gruber
Commandant of cadets Brigadier General R.J. garcia.
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Class of 2025, raise your right hand and repeat after me. I state your Full name. Having been appointed an officer in the army of the United States in the grade of second lieutenant. Do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. That I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same. That I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. And that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I'm about to enter. So help me God. Congratulations. Please lower your hands.
Steve Gruber
Ladies and gentlemen, please remain standing and join in the singing of the official army song.
Brigadier General R.J. Garcia
The army goes rolling along.
Steve Gruber
From the break of the.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
Proud of all we have Done.
Steve Gruber
Class on.
Mo
Cover.
Brigadier General R.J. Garcia
Please remain standing for the benediction by.
Steve Gruber
United States Corps of Cadets Chaplain Father Matt Pavlikowski.
Brigadier General R.J. Garcia
Lord of life throughout this land. On Memorial Day weekend, we honor all military members who lost their lives in the line of duty. And it is in the light of such sacrifice that we are so grateful for this legion of lieutenants just now commissioned, the heir of their oath still floating before their faces, who are prepared perhaps to give, but certainly to live their lives for our country. Such character and selfless service demands respect from our citizens and is worthy of your grace. And so, God, we beg your blessings upon all of them now in the army and later in life that they will always live honorably, lead honorably and demonstrate excellence to all around them now and all the days of their lives. Amen.
Steve Gruber
Hands recover.
Unknown
Dismiss the class of 2025.
Steve Gruber
Go Army.
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B. Davies.
Maureen Bannon
Sir. Go, Army.
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Second Lieutenant Robinson. Dismiss the class of 2025.
Mo
Together we thrive. Go army, sir.
Steve Gruber
Go Army.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
Beat Navy.
Steve Gruber
Graduating class recovered.
Mo
Class of 2025, dismiss.
Steve Gruber
Okay, right there you're seeing the joy of. After four or five years of. Of struggle and tribulation, they will now go change out of their cadet uniforms into their second lieutenant uniforms and they will have these private commissioning ceremonies, will have their second lieutenant bars put on them by family members and commissioning folks that are going to commission normally, either members of the ca. The faculty or staff or people they know. Tremendous music today, too. The Girl I Left Behind. Calvary song right there. Tremendous. Patrick K. O' Donnell. We're gonna try to get Gruber back. He may be down hard because of the batteries. Patrick K. O' Donnell, you're our best combat historian. Put in perspective what we saw today. By the way, I want to thank real America's voice. Historic coverage, wall to wall coverage of a graduation at West Point never been done before on national television, including a one hour address by the 45th and 47th President of the United States and commander in chief of the Armed Forces, Donald J. Trump. Auld Lang Syne, please playing right now. Patrick K. O' Donnell, your thoughts, sir.
Chris
This, Steve, is, you know, really a glorious and historic day for, for this class. That oath of commissioned officers goes all the way back to 1775, June 14, 1775, when first it was Congress that commissioned the first Continental officers and then the men in the 10 rifle companies, six from Pennsylvania, two from Maryland and two others came together and then they chose the Continental Congress, chose their officers for them and then they elected their own officers within that, those, those companies. You know, this is a very special moment. They taking the oath of commission that, you know, goes back to 1775.
Steve Gruber
Patrick, talk to people before we punch. Patrick's going to be with me. He will be in studio. We're going to cover the ceremony for our honored dead at Arlington national cemetery on Real America's Voice live from 10am to noon on on Monday. Want to thank, of course, Robin Parker, Sig for doing this. President of the United States will make, I think, remarks at about 11 o' clock. So we'll cover the entire thing as we did here. Patrick, how can people get your books, particularly your last couple, I know have resonated so about the revolution and the Civil War as you expand out from Korea and and in the Iraq war. Where do people go to get your writings and all your comments you're putting up on Instagram and all that? Where they get it, sir, I'm at.
Chris
On X at Combat Historian as well as getter the Unvanquished. Best place to get that is probably Amazon or Barnes and Noble. They typically have it at the front of the store. Independent bookstores, Washington's Immortals and the Indispensables, which now it still hasn't. We're approaching 2,000 five star reviews on Amazon. Many, many readers from the War Room, which I'm very grateful for. And many of the other books you know, which has been 26 years, your.
Steve Gruber
Last, all your books have been bestsellers but man, you're really picking up steam. Even these last couple have been blockbusters. I mean it's a Patrick David oh, the Unvanquished in particular part of that's the word posse.
Chris
Yeah, the posse has gone to many of my book signings. We had one in Warrington where we had over 400 people in the theater there, which was just tremendous. Just many others as well. You know, many members of the War Room posse have been there, been ardent supporters and great readers really appreciate, appreciate them.
Steve Gruber
Right there. You're seeing the families now down with the cadets. They're going to momentarily the cadets will leave. They'll go do their last administrative things, change out of these cadet uniforms. The last time they'll be in their cadet uniforms is today. They'll change into the uniforms of second lieutenants in the United States army. And, and they will have these private commissioning ceremonies where the families there and then either family members or people they're close to actually do the commission commissioning themselves and to put their put their bars on, which is very, very powerful. One more time, Patrick. Patrick's going to be with me on Monday as we do Memorial Day. Traditionally, Patrick and I do a couple of specials, but because of live coverage, we're going to be doing commentary and we'll have a little time before the event starts at Arlington. Patrick, one more time. Where do people go? Because when people dip into your writings, they normally go back and want to buy as many of your books as possible because they get a real sense. What I'm so proud of you. You don't really write at 60,000ft. You really do the research. You started with oral histories of the greatest generation of World War II. You've then gone, as you've gone back in time to the Civil War and the Revolutionary War. Your archival research is amazing, and that's what brings these books to life, whether it's Washington Immortals, whether it's the other books in the Revolution. This new book, the Unvanquished, I've read, you know, hundreds, if not thousands of books on the Civil War and your book the Unvanquished. And this is my part of the country. My part of the country. It reads like a novel. There's so many things I didn't understand or didn't know because you went back and did basic research that other people hadn't done. And your writings today, these books read like novels, whether it's the first person account of your time with your unit as you went as combat historian in the Iraq War or these new books. So one more time, where do people go to get all your writings at.
Chris
Combat Historian or my website, Patrick kodonnell.com Amazon.com is a great place to purchase the Unvanquished or Barnes and Noble or other independent bookstores. And thank you so much for those compliments, Steve. All my books are true stories. In many cases, they're untold stories that tell a larger story. It's about, you know, Americans, a small group of Americans, one or two people that have made a difference or changed history, bent or shaped history in a way that, you know, is unexpected, but changed the course of history.
Steve Gruber
You know, we started this before, even before War Room and Real America's Voice. We started this when I had the Breitbart Radio, I don't know, 10, 11 years ago. So we've been doing the big Veterans Day and of course, Memorial Day. Such a and we want to we've always focused Memorial Day not on veterans, but really on on the honored dead of the American military. And I think that's why these shows have had so much power is because, Patrick, from the very first time I did it at Breitbart Radio, you were the first guy I brought on. And we did these and it just resonated. We stuck the landing with the audience, so to speak, because they just loved it. And that's why we've made it a tradition.
Chris
Thank you, Stephen. Yeah, I mean, on Monday, I'll have a story on the man that's on the COVID of this book, Sergeant Frith, the lost man of Memorial Day. I mean, he was killed in action as a Jesse scout, and his picture is just sort of haunting. I mean, he just looks back at us in time. Sergeant Frith was killed in a gun battle by a clerk that wasn't supposed to be with him, discharged his pistol, the ball lodged in his abdomen, and he writhed in pain for two days. And I found a letter from his father from Milan, Ohio. You know, that was just a very powerful story about how in the letter he, quote, I'll summarize, he basically says, joseph taught you how to live, but also how to die. And he died, you know, a dignified manner in a very quiet, quiet manner.
Steve Gruber
Wow.
Chris
And, you know, one of the goals, my goals and when writing this book is to find his grave because he's buried somewhere in Covington, Virginia, in a in a homestead behind likely behind the house that he was, you know, mortally wounded at somewhere in Covington, Virginia. We're trying to track him down for his family members.
Steve Gruber
So the, the coverage we'll have on Monday starts at 10 o' clock in the traditional war room morning slot. It'll be the we're going to cover wall to wall coverage of the commemoration ceremony and event at Arlington National Cemetery with the commander in chief and president of the United States, President Trump. PATRICK K. O' donnell, Social Media where do people get you over the weekend, sir?
Chris
At combat historian on Getter or X and patrickkodonnell.com or on Amazon.com just look up the Unvanquished and then there's 13 other books up there with just scores and scores of reviews. This one had the Wall Street Journal gave it a glorious review and just about every other one. It's probably my best selling book right now and my best reviewed book.
Steve Gruber
The Wall Street Journal, eventually, it always catches up to the Wall Street Journal. Always, eventually catches up with the war room. Eventually. Patrick Cadeno, thank you. We'll see you Monday. And I want to thank really, Parker Sig, Rob Sig, the entire crew in Denver, of course, my own production crew in Washington, D.C. in the nation's capital and here on the road had a great team that set this up. Do we have Steve Gruber? Gruber, I think we may be down on battery. Steve Gruber's done such an amazing job. Steve is at West Point at Mikey Stadium. No, we lost the battery. Steve is going to be there live at Arlington National Cemetery on Monday. So we're going to have coverage again. Steve Gruber will be there in person. We'll have a great camera crew from real America's Voice. And Patrick K. O' Donnell is going to be in the war room. So this will be another, another event. So, so honored to do these. And I got to tell you, President Trump delivered today a speech that was over an hour long and had something for everybody. I can tell you as being a parent of West Point grad, the comments he made about I will not send your sons and daughters into these forever wars of conflicts we're not going to win. Because if you want to understand how little power you have in the world is have your have your child go to West Point or go into the military and to deploy overseas where it's totally out of any of your control. I think for a parent, I can tell you, President Trump saying that makes today even more special. And you look at Trump and you look at President Trump's actions, people know that he backs this up. And I think that's what's so incredibly powerful. Want to thank everybody. Want to thank real America's Voice. We're going to take off right there at West Point, the closing shots. We will see you Monday morning at, at 10:00am also Eastern Daylight Time. I will also tell you we're going to replay today and tomorrow this amazing historic coverage, first time ever on national television from the beginning to the end of the graduation of the United states Military Class 2025 with a one hour fantastic speech by President Trump. We'll see you back here on Monday. We'll be up on GETTER all weekend. Grace will be up mo everybody. We'll see you back here. Monday Morning Live, 10:00am Eastern Daylight Time, when you will be back in the War Room. I want to thank Real America's Voice for expanded coverage here in the boardroom as we cover the graduation ceremony at the United States Military Academy at West Point. Steve Gruber is with us at Mikey Stadium live.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
It's a historic day. It's a new future for America.
Steve Gruber
Ladies and gentlemen, the 47th President of the United States of America. A few moments, we'll become graduates of the Musta League historic Military Academy in human history, Cadet Chris Verdugo completing the task in 2 hours and 30 minutes flat, smashing the international record for the competition by 13 minutes. Where is he? Where is he? Come up here. Come up here, Chris. It's been a long five years, but I could not be with any of these guys. People like all of you have picked up the better terms and carry forward the flag of freedom. No matter the odds, no matter the cost, no matter the danger. Through every challenge and every battle, you'll stand strong, you'll work hard, you'll stay.
Unknown
Tough, and you will fight, fight, fight.
Steve Gruber
And win, win, win.
Patrick K. O'Donnell
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WarRoom Special: Live From West Point - Episode 4511 Summary
Release Date: May 25, 2025
Host: Steve Gruber
Guest: Patrick K. O'Donnell, Combat Historian
Platform: WarRoom.org
Episode 4511 of Bannon's War Room features a comprehensive live broadcast from West Point's Mikey Stadium, covering the graduation ceremony of the United States Military Academy Class of 2025. Hosted by Steve Gruber and featuring guest combat historian Patrick K. O'Donnell, the episode delves into the significance of the event, President Donald Trump's impactful address, and the broader implications for the U.S. military and geopolitical landscape.
President Donald Trump delivered a pivotal speech that lasted over an hour, blending personal connections with strategic military insights. His address emphasized the theme of "peace through strength," reinforcing America's military prowess while aspiring for diplomatic resolutions to global conflicts.
Key Highlights:
Personal Connections: Trump named individual cadets, including those with military lineage and personal sacrifices, fostering a deep emotional bond with the audience. At [00:28], O'Donnell remarks, “There was one gentleman that Donald Trump called out whose grandfather had served in World War I... It showed the emotion of this president, his connection with the military.”
Military Commitment: He assured the graduates that the U.S. would only engage in conflicts it is prepared to win, ensuring that young officers are not placed in unwinnable wars. Gruber notes at [02:28], “He’s not going to put people in harm's way, particularly these young second lieutenants, unless we are committed to win the military endeavors.”
Geopolitical Stance: Trump addressed contemporary threats, specifically China and Russia, signaling a clear stance against emerging global adversaries. At [02:59], O'Donnell states, “Donald Trump asserting military strength... It wasn’t a traditional Trump campaign speech or a rally speech. It was him connecting with young members of the military.”
The graduation ceremony celebrated numerous cadets' accomplishments, both academic and physical. A standout moment was the recognition of Cadet Chris Verdugo, who broke an international competition record by completing a ruck march 13 minutes faster than his peers.
Notable Mention:
The younger cadets, particularly those in their last years, demonstrated strong support for President Trump's policies and leadership. They were described as the most patriotic generation in recent years, vocally backing the "America First" agenda.
At [07:59], O'Donnell observes, “These younger cadets very much identify with Donald Trump, very much identify with his America first agenda. They are all bought in.”
Patrick K. O'Donnell provided an in-depth historical analysis of West Point's enduring significance in American military history. He highlighted key moments such as:
Revolutionary War: West Point's strategic location along the Hudson River was crucial in thwarting British advances, exemplified by the construction of a massive chain to block naval passage.
Notable Figures: The discussion included references to Benedict Arnold’s betrayal and Ulysses S. Grant’s leadership during the Civil War, emphasizing how West Point has been a breeding ground for some of America's most influential military leaders.
At [30:36], O'Donnell explains, “West Point has been so central because of the Hudson River... It was really the high ground on the Hudson. Whoever controls the Hudson would control the colonies.”
The episode underscored the importance of tradition at West Point, including the "Long Gray Line," symbolizing the continuity and legacy of military excellence. The ceremony concluded with the singing of the alma mater and the official army song, reinforcing the unity and esprit de corps among the newly commissioned officers.
At [52:01], O'Donnell reflects, “This oath of commissioned officers goes all the way back to 1775... this is a very special moment.”
The hosts hinted at upcoming coverage of the Memorial Day ceremonies at Arlington National Cemetery, promising continued in-depth analysis and live reporting. Additionally, Patrick K. O'Donnell promoted his latest works, encouraging listeners to explore his extensive research on American military history.
Episode 4511 provided an insightful and emotionally charged look into the West Point graduation ceremony, highlighting President Trump's influential role and the promising future of America's military leadership. Through expert analysis and firsthand reporting, listeners gained a deeper understanding of the interplay between military tradition, current geopolitical strategies, and the enduring legacy of institutions like West Point.
Notable Quotes:
Patrick K. O'Donnell ([00:28]): “It was a stirring ceremony to say the least... they have the honor.”
Patrick K. O'Donnell ([02:59]): “He really commanded the audience here today... peace through strength.”
Patrick K. O'Donnell ([07:59]): “These younger cadets very much identify with Donald Trump... they have Donald Trump's back.”
Patrick K. O'Donnell ([22:55]): “I would put Chris in my foxhole... that’s no small feat.”
This summary encapsulates the main discussions and insights from the live broadcast, providing a comprehensive overview for those who did not attend the event or listen to the full episode.