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Episode 4512: WarRoom Memorial Day Special 2025
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Steve Bannon
No more distractions, no more electric tanks, no more gender confusion, no more climate change worship. We are laser focused on our mission of warfighting. We will measure our success not only by the battles we win, but also by the wars we end, and perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into. It's called peace through strength. You look into the eyes of these young Americans who are giving up the best years of their life in a uniform to serve their nation. They are incredible. Through our power and might, we will lead the world to peace. Our friends will respect us, our enemies will fear us. And the whole world will admire the unrivaled greatness of the United States military. We will replenish the pride of our armed forces, end the recruitment crisis. We don't fight because we hate what's.
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Steve Gruber
In front of us.
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Steve Bannon
We fight because we love what's behind us. God bless you, God bless our armed forces, God bless our men and women serving overseas, and God bless the United States of America. SA this is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Prison's not got a free shot on.
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Patrick K. O'Donnell
All these networks lying about the people.
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Steve Bannon
The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but.
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Patrick K. O'Donnell
You'Re not gonna stop it. It's going to happen.
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John Mills
And where do people like that go.
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Steve Bannon
To share the big lie?
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John Mills
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Steve Bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
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Patrick K. O'Donnell
Country, this country will be saved.
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John Mills
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban Foreign.
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Steve Bannon
It is Monday 26th May in the year of our Lord 2025. It is memorial Day in the year of our Lord 2025. Today we will be giving a live coverage of the president United States. We'll leave the White house sometime after 10:30 this morning. He will go to Arlington National Military Cemetery in, in, in Northern Virginia, right across the Memorial Bridge from the Lincoln Monument. He will address, he'll lay a wreath at the tomb of the Unknown, the Tomb of the Unknowns. And he will then make appropriate remarks and then he will exit and leave for his his place in Northern Virginia. We will cover this live until the end of it, probably sometime around 12:15 or so. We have the team we had at the historic first time ever Waldorf coverage on national television of the graduation of the United States Military Academy at West Point. Patrick K. O' Donnell will help me co anchor today. Steve Gruber is attempting to get set up at Arlington National Cemetery. May start with Steve by phone until we get the camera set and of course we'll cover, we'll cover all this wall to wall president's journey to Arlington, the laying of the wreath, the commemoration ceremony at the tomb and then his appropriate remarks. The right there you saw two videos put about the White House just absolutely incredible. A new one with Pete Hegseth and President Trump about the war fighting and the focus on our warriors. And of course an incredible video with Taps laid over it by the White House showed Arlington other military cemeteries and particularly section 60 which are the honored dead from Iraq and Afghanistan. At the end we played the last of the burial of the of the Unknowns was the Korean war that was the 30th of May 1958. I was at what four and a half years old. I went to that with my father and my older brother. I do have some memories of that. Number one is the really the sound of the howitzers which I think actually from the time the the unknown soldier left with an honor guard from the capital to the time he got to Arlington I believe the howitzers it must have been a hundred of them the howitzers shot the entire time. It was incredibly moody, very hot day. I remember being over at Arlington at the, at the memorial with the huge anchor that we kind of stood on because we didn't actually have VIP tickets but that's the last unknown. Patrick K. O' DONNELL reason I ended with Korea. That's John Mills and our team, the election integrity team going over to South Korea and look at that and look at that reception. They got the reception I think a couple of thousand South Koreans waving in American flags for people coming this really important election is going to go with the Chinese Communist Party. Remember the Korean War is not over. There's never been an armistice. I think there's the war is not over. It's just a stand down, a ceasefire and the Korean War is with us and today it's not Veterans Day. We don't honor those of us who served in the military. That's our great honor to be able to do it. Today is a day for the honored dead the war dead of our nation. PATRICK K. O' DONNELL you've done more than anybody to really lay this out your book. You really go back to the very first of the Unknowns and you do the entire what how we did in World War I. I want to ask you though, about the last one in particular, the Korean War, of all the wars we fought and all the bloody conflicts we fought, Korea is called the forgotten war. And yet it was. The sacrifice of American troops in Korea was absolutely incredible. And of course, a couple of years after the war, when it was still seared into the memories of the American people, President Eisenhower and Vice President Nixon had this incredibly moving ceremony with, I don't know, millions of people, hundreds of thousands of people. The crowds were absolutely enormous. They came out On Memorial Day 30 May 1958 in searing heat and people were there for the entire thing and just to commemorate the last of the unknown. Patrick K. O' Donnell, your thoughts.
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John Mills
Steve, a good friend of mine was at that ceremony that you were there with and he was the body bearer for that casket of that unknown soldier from the Korean War. He was a Medal of Honor recipient who I had the honor of interviewing many times and his name was Ron Rosser. And Ron in 1952 did some really extraordinary things. His platoon was reduced from over 100 men to around 30 and he single handedly handed the radio off to one of his men and single handedly charged a bunker with just a grenade in his M1 carbine. Took out the bunker, then went after a trench line. I'll never forget his. He told me how, you know, very solemnly how he killed many, many people that day and then proceeded as he was wounded to, to carry off men that were in that attack as well or near the attack, bringing them to safety and receiving the Medal of Honor and just, you know, really an incredible man that I'll never forget. And you know, I mean he, this guy was so tough. He talked about, he told me about some of the home invasions that occurred that he was able to also single handedly take care of business. That's how tough this guy was. Even in his 70s and 80s, just a really remarkable man.
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Steve Bannon
Yeah, I remember the Clint Eastwood film was about a Korean War, but Korea's, they call it the forgotten war, but it's not forgotten to veterans, it's not forgotten to the Marine Corps or the U.S. army that really relatively untrained troops. Because World War II was over, relatively untrained troops were sent over there and really fought the Chinese Communist Party, a Chinese, a red Chinese army of, I don't know, millions that swept across the Yalu river in places like Chosin Reservoir, except there are just so many heroic. Give me a snapshot. We got a couple minutes. We're going to set up. Steve Gruber. We're going to go to Gruber when we come back from commercial break who actually is at Arlington and we'll show you the crowd that's already assembled there awaiting the president and the official party. Talk to me about Korea. Chosin Reservoir. People forget that the absolute agony of these troops that fought and died in Korea.
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John Mills
I've written 14 books now and all those books have found me. And that was particularly the case with Give Me Tomorrow, which is on the Korean War. And when I came back from Fallujah as a combat historian, I came back alone and I was greeted by men of George Co. 3:1, these Korean War vets. And they asked me who I was. I told them I was in Fallujah. They said, oh, you carried our battle Guide on George Company in Weapons Company 31 in the battle. And then they said to me, would you like, you know, a ride to the train station and have lunch with us? And then, then they proceeded to tell me how George Co. At the Chosen reservoir. You know, just sort of picture 30 to 42 degree below zero weather, no food against Chinese, just hordes of Chinese soldiers. And that's what these men did. They held a hill against all odds and helped save the war. And I was immediately impressed. And the next thing I know, they're invited me to the reunions and I spent five years recording their stories and coming up with Give Me Tomorrow. And it really was a forgotten war I'll never forget. I had tremendous doubt within the publishing industry whether or not even a book like this would be successful. And it turned out to be one of my most successful books was on the commandant's reading list at one point.
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Steve Bannon
But it's about. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I want to, I want to reiterate that. We'll talk about more when we get back. When you propose the book, which is one of the most moving books of the 14 written, which are all classics, the publishing industry said, hey, Korea is just not that big a deal. People don't know about it. We know if we can do it. Patrick, hang on, I want to get into this. Steve Gruber's at Arlington National Cemetery. President Trump will be leaving shortly following on his historic commencement address at the United States Military Academy at West Point where he told these young about to become second lieutenants, I will never put you in harm's way on a war that we're not prepared to win. What is it? 60 some years later in Korea, a team of going over on election to make sure the Chinese Communist Party does not Complete a coup of South Korea. These wars are not over. They ain't over till they're over. Back in a moment.
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Patrick K. O'Donnell
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Steve Bannon
Okay, welcome back and let's keep that shot. Let's keep the music, guys. Don't bring it down. That's the United States Marine Corps band at the amphitheater. See? Looks like a Navy chorus in the back. This is a musical part of the event before the President arrives. We are live at Arlington National Cemetery today for the Memorial Day commemoration event. The President of the United States will leave the White House shortly to go to Arlington. It's about to 10 minutes down what? Constitution Avenue, across Memorial Bridge, past Lincoln Memorial Cross Memorial Bridge.
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Patrick K. O'Donnell
Steve Gruber is there.
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Steve Bannon
Steve Gruber, put us in the room like you did the great job you did at West Point. What's happening, Steve?
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Steve Gruber
I can tell you it's a remarkable event. The emotion in the room is telling. It feels as you can hear the music in the background. It's a solid event. I've had the opportunity to talk to a number of veterans, a couple of them I just spoke to World War II veterans. I sent you a picture, Steve. I don't know if you can get it up, but one was 97, one was 98, both from Brooklyn, by the way, the 98 year old gentleman was running the ships that ran the beaches of Normandy, the other gentleman far North Africa and then came up around and the other flank to go into France following D Day. And so the stories you hear here pointed real and you look at the people that have look, Steve, you and I can sit here and do live broadcasting because of the people that laid down their lives for us for this free speech that we had. And it's no small measure from Concord and Lexington through the Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, all the context since that people have laid down their lives on the last full measure of devotion to the you and I could sit here and listen to the Marine Corps band, listen to the stories here in the amphitheater at Arlington National Cemetery. And I don't think it was a more important place to be on Memorial Day 2025. And being here listening to Donald Trump will deliver remarks here a little bit later. You said he'll be leaving the White house in about 20 minutes or so. But it's a remarkable event. The place is full standing room only as people continue to stream in. And it's a privilege honestly to be here. For me, it really is.
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Steve Bannon
No, it's a day, it's very solemn and go ahead and listen. Let's go and listen to this music that was meant to be.
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Steve Gruber
When the president I didn't.
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John Mills
With every step I.
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Steve Bannon
Take, let this be my sorrow. Sa with me. You just saw Steve. We see the honor guard coming into left. Continue on.
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Steve Gruber
Steve Gruber, the honor guards making their way by me right now as we speak. And you know, it is an honor to be here, 420,000 people buried here in Arlington. And I've always found it remarkable, Steve, you probably have as well. You walk around and you see Ohio and Missouri and Montana, all the different states represented in the rows of white crosses here. And there's no better place, no worse place more special than hosting the national cemetery on Memorial Day to reflect on those that laid down their lives for us to be here today to enjoy this great American experiment. Remarkable place to be. Solemn day, but a day of remembrance and a day that there's nothing more American than respecting our fallen. And I'm really looking forward to the remarks by President Trump as there's obviously a new direction for this country, a new dedication to putting America first. And I think that that's on the minds. I saw many red hats and Trump supporting individuals here. Obviously they have embraced the direction that we're going and it's a special place to be. And I'm looking out the back of the amphitheater now, across the rows of white crosses and the Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers. All right here. It's a special place and a special day to be here.
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Steve Bannon
No, the most sacred ground in the United States. Of course, any military cemetery is, but particularly Arlington. Arlington is also the home of Robert E. Lee and Mary Custis, who was a direct descendant of George Washington. It was basically confiscated or taken by the Union in the the years of the Civil War to bring the war dead back and to be buried. That's the beginning of Arlington. The Custis house is not too far from here. I'm very honored, although we come from the south and have a lot of Southerners from North Carolina, particularly that serve. My great grandfather is buried at Arlington National Cemetery. Charles Edward Jack, who fought with the 1st Main Cavalry. His brother did also. My great grandmother's buried there and one of my great uncles, Captain Ben and Mo has both of her great grandparents there, Colonel MacKinnon, who served with MacArthur and actually served with MacArthur, I think in the Philippines inter war years. Colonel McKinnon and his wife and his son John are buried there. They're Mo's great grandparents on her mother's side and her great grandparents or her great great grandparents, parents on her on her dad's side buried at Arlington National Cemetery. And very, very it's an honor to have to have relatives buried there. Just incredible. Patrick K. O' Donnell Korea, the last known. But to God, the tombs of the Tomb of the Unknown. The last is Korea. Because of modern technology, haven't had an opportunity in any of the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan or Vietnam. So the last was the 30th of May 1958. I was four and a half years old on a brutally hot day in Washington with, I don't know, it felt like millions of people talk to me about the Korean War. The sacrifice of, of these troops, of many of them untrained, are thrown into some of the fiercest combat that America's ever had.
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John Mills
This is the first hot conflict of the Cold War, Steve, and it is in many ways the forgotten war where tens of thousands of Americans laid down their lives to protect freedom and to check Communism, which is spreading around the globe. This is an extraordinary struggle and conflict that the men of George Co. In particular, give me tomorrow that band of brothers. They were reservists, and many of them never even knew how to properly throw a grenade. And remarkably, these were men that had never gone through. Many of them had never gone through boot camp itself. And it would be on the ships in 1950, in the summer of 1950, that they would be trained by the great NCOs that were part of George Company, men that fought along the Matanicao river at Guadalcanal and Peleliu, men like Rocco Zula, who trained these men aboard ships as they were going to Korea. And they were on the first wave at Blue beach at Incheon, where Korea was reduced in 1950, in the summer of 1950, and, you know, going into the fall to a small perimeter around Busan, which was nearly overrun. And it was at Incheon that MacArthur makes the great gamble, and it's this flanking maneuver where they land near Seoul and they surprise the enemy, you know, and everything had to go perfectly right because the tides were so, you know, at such a point where only specific day or two, the landing would actually be successful. And that's one of the reasons why it was so successful, is because the unexpected nature of it. And MacArthur timed that perfectly and also had to convince the general Staff that it was possible. And it would be the George Company and many others the Marine Corps would lead.
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Steve Bannon
Hey, hey, Patrick. Patrick, let's. Patrick, let's just hang over a second. Let's get. Let's. Let's get America beautiful. Let's go ahead and turn the volume up. We'll go back to the amphitheater. Come back to Patrick in a moment.
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Steve Gruber
And from my Holy Grail.
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Steve Bannon
America. Patrick K. O' Donnell, continue on. Tell me about Korea.
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John Mills
It was the men of George Company and many, many others. You know, at the time, In World War II, we had over 12 million men and women under arms. And the. You know, the war ends, and we immediately demilitarize. And much of that goes down to less than around a million men. And it would be the Marine Corps that would actually prepare for it by mothballing much of their. Their equipment in Barstow, California. And MacArthur, you know, in 1950, they reconstitute the 1st Marine Division, and it's the. The Marines are the spearhead at Incheon and lead the way. And they. They're at Blue Beach. They have. They land, but the. The sea Wall is actually so high that it actually the top of the landing craft door is near the seawall. So they used to use scaling ladders to climb up the, the, the end of the landing craft to get across the seawall. And they immediately met by incoming fire. But they quickly seize Incheon and then they're involved in Seoul, Korea and the fighting there. George Company takes the brunt of a Chinese, or I should say North Korean at this time. It'd be a North Korean counterattack which involved several self propelled guns and T34 85 tanks at Maulevard, which is in the heart of Seoul. And I have one great story by John Kerry, who's a lieutenant at the time or and he is literally General MacArthur is walking down the street and in broad daylight without any cover walks down the street and young Lieutenant Gary grabs him and pulls him into the side of the buildings. MacArthur said, what the hell are you doing, Lieutenant? I'm trying to protect you from the bullets. And MacArthur just looks up at him and says, there's not a bullet in the world that can kill me. That's kind of how bold this man was beginning with, you know, prior to the World War I where he was involved in Mexico and In World War I, he had just sort of this era of invulnerability.
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Steve Bannon
One was, was awarded. People realized, forget that MacArthur was awarded five Silver Stars for gallantry and combat in, in, in World War I. His father became having won the Congressional Award being awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor in, in the Civil War. Patrick, hang on one second. I want to go back to Steve Gruber. Steve, what's get us up to date? What's going on at the amphitheater?
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Steve Gruber
We've had the Parade of Flags here just a moment ago. Now I learned something as I always do on these events. I learned that when President Trump steps foot on the cemetery grounds, the cannons will set off. And so you will know when the Commander in Chief is at Arlington because the cannons will be touched off and we'll know that he's here from that point, he'll go lay the wreath and it'll take only a few minutes and he'll be here to give remarks. Now, we're expecting him to leave the White House in the next few minutes, make his way to Arlington. We'll hear the cannons fire and then we'll know the Commander in Chief, the 45th and 47th President of these United States will be on, on the grounds, the sacred ground.
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Steve Bannon
That's Steve, that's the, the most searing memory I have from 1958 is the Howitzers, I think they were down outside the Capitol. But when the remains of the, of the unknown from the Korean War went with an honor guard, the howitzers, I believe, fired the entire time until the official party with the body, with the remains and General Eisenhower and Richard Nixon actually got to Arlington. It was took like 15, 20 minutes. It was incredibly powerful. Incredibly powerful. So we'll know when the commander in chief arrives today at Arlington. They'll do that, Steve. It is packed a day. It is a combination of families of the fallen in a little bit. That's weighted to Section 60. Section 60 at Arlington is the section that was opened up for Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans and of course, heroic veterans of our many wars, including all the way back now to the last of the greatest generation of World War II. Your thoughts, sir?
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Steve Gruber
You know, I rode in here today with one of the real American Voice photographers, Tony, whose grandfather is buried here at Arlington, and he talked about how powerful it is for him to come here. And I can imagine it's the same for all these families, relatives that are distant. I had a relative that fell in Gettysburg, not here at Arlington. But still, it's a family legacy. It's what's handed down through the generations. Your father, your grandfather, your great grandfather served. And for people to come here to etch the name of their loved one, their fallen one, whether it's Iraq and Afghanistan, or all the way back to when they first started using this, after they took it from Robert E. Lee. I mean, this is a generational emotional day for these families. It's the family history, and it's also the diary, the family history of America. It's here. It's in these tombstones. And like I say, you see the tombstones from California, from New Mexico, from North Dakota and all points Guam, American Samoa, people in this cemetery, real Americans who served their country in so many times of need. Of course, you talked about the Korean war. I think MacArthur was probably right, Steve. We probably should have gone right on the way to Beijing. But President Truman didn't think that was a good idea.
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Steve Bannon
Well, Stephen, 67 years later, South Korea, remember, the Korean War is not over. There's never been any peace treaty. It's really kind of an armistice, is kind of a. It's kind of a ceasefire in Korea. That's why I want to start with that airport where Colonel John Mills and Dr. Thayer and others. The war room over there at the Ambassador Ton is in Incheon. You land in Incheon and you get the, you get the understanding of what amazing amphibious assault that was and how it swept around the Seoul, Korea. But no, Korea is the tip of the spear. And particularly you talk about the Chinese troops who are really sent to their death against the Americans. Many of them didn't even have weapons. Just, just wave after wave of humanity today you've got in Taiwan. And we got to be blunt about that. This is that these are not exercises they're doing. This is a preparation for an invasion. And President Trump in his peace to strength, this, this heroic that really, Steve, one of the most powerful speeches I've ever heard President Trump give was on Saturday at West Point where he committed to those young men that never again will American troops be put into a conflict that were not there to win it. No more of these forever wars. Your thoughts?
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Steve Gruber
I could not possibly agree more. I mean, as you sit here and look across these fields of white marble, you have to hope. As you know, as President Trump concludes his Middle east trip with Saudi Arabia, uae, Qatar, as he works to negotiate peace between Ukraine and Russia, as he works to bring the hostilities to a close in Gaza, he wants these fields to remain open, not filled with white headstones. Yes, he wants these fields to remain open. And as do I. I mean, he is a president of peace. Yes. Will we pay the price if we have to, we will. He's made this very clear. But you're right, what he said at West Point was stirring. We don't want endless wars. We want the idea if you go into a war with overwhelming force, you win it and you get out the nation building. The nonsense is over. The horror that we saw at Abbeygate, that sort of incident, that sort of embarrassment is over. You cannot do that anymore.
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Steve Bannon
That, yeah, that, that, that address at West Point, the United States Military Academy on commencement address coupled with today, as I argue, we're, we're in the kinetic part of the third World War. What is happening today is far bloodier than what happened between September 1939 and the invasion of Russia by the the Wehrmacht in June of 1941. And that was bloody via the blitz you had up North Africa. You add up the fall of France, throw in Finland, everything happened there. You're only about half. And that was bloody and it shocked people. But that was only half of what's happened. And let's be blunt. President Trump, of all the pressure he has on him, you know, he, Steve, he was. And Patrick, he was, came off the hook on Putin this morning. Last night. This morning, people have to realize that President Trump trying to end these endless wars, particularly on the Eurasian landmass. The Russians had a brutal assault on, bombing of, of Kiev with, with drones. And President Trump goes, I mean, called Putin out. So these things are a long way from over. And people have to understand we, we talk about budgets, we talk about the invasion of the country and the deportations and the judges and everything. The pressure on President Trump to end these kinetic wars is, and he's doing a Herculean, Herculean task. And Steve Gruber, you said it. What President Trump doesn't want to do, he doesn't want to open up another section next to section 60. He doesn't want to fill these sections. He believes that peace through strength, that he's prepared to commit troops. Nobody will cross Trump. That's why we didn't have the Ukraine war. That's why you didn't have the thing, the event in Gaza. But today, with these families mourning their loved ones and the nation mourning the honored dead of our military, you have to understand that we're in the middle of it, just like in 1930. This is like 1940, early 1941. Steve Gruber.
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Steve Gruber
Let me jump in there, Steve. I've got a whole motorcade. I'm just out the back door of the amphitheater here. The whole motorcade appears to be pulling up right in front of me. I've got the whole shooting match here. I got no camera on it because it's pointed the other direction, my friend. But I can tell you I've got a line of Suburbans and ambulances and military equipment. So something's happening here. As they prepare for we wait for those cannons to sound that they're here. They're getting into position to welcome the president United States. I can tell you that right now.
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Steve Bannon
This is his role as, as commander in chief. The president there. Patrick K. O' Donnell, this is, we've had the, we're going to have this event at the bottom. We'll jump back to life coverage at the. As soon as it gets sort of. PATRICK We've done this since the First World War, which you covered so magnificently, your book. That was decided, like France and like England, that America would have a tomb for the unknowns, for those who were so shattered in battle that they could not be identified. Talk to us about that.
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John Mills
Steve The First World War in America plays an absolutely critical role, especially in the finance, the world finance of that war. It's America's treasury that really finances the war against America's arsenal then of democracy, which is the production, the Massive production beginning in 1914 with TNT, which is used to make artillery shells and everything else. It's America's arsenals and America's industry that powers the Allies. If it didn't exist, our money in manufacturing, the Allies would have folded. And then it's in 1917 that the American Expeditionary Force under Blackjack Pershing comes in and is this decisive factor, it's the millions of American troops that will literally break through the major defensive lines that have been goring Allied armies for four years and contributing to the deaths of tens of millions, you know, around the world, this global conflict.
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Steve Gruber
Patrick.
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Steve Bannon
Our combat casualties in World War I were huge, right? The fighting itself. The Germans essentially surrendered because they knew the Allies with America would overwhelm them. But the combat casualties of the First World War were massive compared to the amount of time. I think we only in active combat for six months, but in particularly the surge at the end. But the combat casualties were. And it shocked the nation. The nation was not prepared for the amount of casualties that took place in World War I. Sir.
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John Mills
It's, that's absolutely true. It's, it's the, the amount of time. It's a very short window of time. But the intensity of the combat, the, you know, the massive artillery barrages, the gas. And then what also people don't forget, that often forget is the pandemic that swept the world that caused tens of millions of deaths as well. All these things are combined, but it's America's decisive role at the end that will crack the German lines and change the war. And the takeaway from that war is preparation. America typically is never prepared for the wars of the next war that it needs to fight. And World War I, we were woefully underprepared. We had one of the, the smallest armies in the world at the time, like the 19th, you know, in a very tiny army compared to the world powers. But it quickly built up and we were able to quickly ramp up production. But as you said, Steve, today, these are some of the most perilous times in history. And, you know, the smallest events can trigger, you know, massive. Have massive unintended consequences. And it's a very dangerous time that, you know, prudence.
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Steve Bannon
It's dangerous. It's dangerous because, yeah, I don't want to politicize this, but it's dangerous because of. And the engine room's telling you things like Abbey Gate, where America looks feckless and weak, right? With what, 11 Marines, 13 overall, brave young heroes essentially slaughtered on a botched withdrawal. This is What President Trump is trying to reset. This is what the parents, look, the parents and the wives and husbands of the kis, the killed in actions understand that their loved ones gave all and sacrificed for the defense of this republic and the defense of our, their countrymen. But they want to make sure that there was a purpose to it, number one and number two, that it was handled at the absolute highest level of competence. They want purpose and competence. Let me be blunt. That is not, that is we've drifted away from that. And that is what President Trump's trying to reinstall, reinstill not simply in the military, but in the American people and the way they look. So that these are, you know, that Memorial Day just doesn't become another great time to get sales and another great time to, to, you know, to have a barbecue with friends. That's all part of, it's the traditional kickoff for summer, but this is the most important. That's why President Trump, I think, goes out of his way, particularly on Memorial Day weekend, to both go to the United States Military Academy at West Point, give historic speech to these young men and women who will be made second lieutenants on that day and enter the military as the tip, you know, the cutting edge of the spear, to commit to them and then to come back to Washington and to come at this really sacred ceremony that we've had for many decades. Steve Gruber, can you get us up to date on what's going on at the amphitheater, sir?
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Steve Gruber
You know, let me reflect on what you just said there, Steve, because there was a time when I was young, 1980, I believe, cover of Time magazine showed the burned out helicopters of the failed rescue attempt of the hostages in Iran. And there was a time on a feeling of weakness in America when Jimmy Carter was president then. And then you fast forward to what Donald Trump inherited. And I feel the same way. There was four years of weakness and Ronald Reagan had to come in and correct that in 1980. And I feel that Donald Trump had to come in and correct it beginning in January of this year. And I think that's the reflection and that's the, the comparison I make when I was a young man seeing that horrible burned out failure of that rescue attempt in the desert by Jimmy Carter. There was a feeling of ineptitude. And honestly, watching Joe Biden for the last several years, that same feeling. And people didn't have competency. If you talk about the widows and the sons and the daughters, they want competence. You're exactly right about that, Steve. They want competence and they want confidence. And when we go do something, we do it with overwhelming floors. We do it with a, with a precision, with an effectiveness second to none. And I agree with that. Here at Arlington in the amphitheater, we're waiting for the sound of the cannons. Donald Trump should be en route to Arlington now. The helicopter's in the air. The first motorcade came in with all the military folks, the D.C. police, United States Park Police, and everyone here behind the amphitheater. So the stage is set. There was a moment there. I can see the gate where they're letting in the guests today. They brought it to a stop there for about 15 minutes. Now I see they're flowing through again. The place is packed, standing room only. And they're still bringing more people in, which is incredible. But I, you know, I can't help but second what you said there, Steve. I mean, we need to be the single strongest nation on earth so that we don't have to fight, so we don't have to open up a section 61 and 62. You're so right about that.
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Steve Bannon
You know, Steve, what, what, what Patrick K. O' Donnell said about people like MacArthur. I mean, Trump's trying to find those, MacArthur's, those patents. He wants American exceptionalism on the battlefield. He wants American exceptionalism in defense so that we're never crossed. I, I, personal experience, I was a young naval officer on the carrier battle group. Two of them, Gonzo Station and Camel Station, that did the workup for that, for that, for that raid. And I can tell you as a junior officer, we would sit there and go, this thing is not pulled together tight. I mean, they didn't have enough helicopter. It was just, it was a cluster and months and months of training and coming together for absolute debacle. And then I came back to the Pentagon and served under Reagan. And the difference in esprit de corps, the difference in confidence, the difference one person can make that difference. Reagan, the difference between Reagan and Carter. Remember, Carter was a naval officer. Carter had gone to the Naval Academy as a submarine officer, had Zigbee Brzezinski. But it's just a feeling throughout that we are not the top of the game game. We were not exceptional and we were not playing to win. We were not there to put people in harm's way to actually, there was no confidence, I can tell you, in the carrier battle groups, at least at the junior officer level, that the hostage rescue was anything but just some madcap scheme. And it turned out to be even worse than madcap scheme that was totally different. Look, my kid brother as a Navy pilot was with the raid on Kadafa under Reagan and that was a totally different deal that was highly competent, took care of it and sent Gaddafi to the desert for a couple of decades and got his mind right about, you know, about radical jihad. That's the difference. This is Trump Mo served in Iraq under Obama. Right. When you sign up, you're going to get, you know, you don't get to pick your commander in chief, but the difference of a Ronald Reagan, the difference in the Donald Trump is all the difference in the world. And this is what you, what you're seeing trying to imbue. We're awaiting the president. Steve Gruber is at the amphitheater. Patrick K. O' Donnell, your, your, your, your thoughts on the leadership at the top imbuing into a military that you want exceptionalism, that those families of the dead that are in Arlington today, they ask one thing, two things. There's a purpose to all this and that it's handled at the highest level of competence, sir.
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John Mills
It's all about leadership, Steve. It's indispensable. And as you mentioned, the commander in chief's leadership will change policy, will change everything. And that's the essential ingredient that's been missing for four years and now is back. And these are the most, some of the most perilous times where unintended consequences on single events can change history very rapidly. So it's absolutely essential to have leadership at the top which will then go, you know, hit all levels of the military and also the United States.
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Steve Bannon
You talk about changing history. As the engine room reminds me, it was Abbey Gate that really of course here at the war room we were from the beginning not, not pro Biden but, but Abigail I think woke middle class America and people who are independents or Democrats who are not Trump people say wow, what is going on here? When you see that we see the, the what the C130s and the C5s going down the runways with people hanging onto the wings and it's, it looked worse than Vietnam in 1975. And that's the thing with our Vietnam veterans. Was it 57,000 Kias and we don't have anyone, we don't have anyone that is honored in, in the tomb of the unknown because of DNA technology that it's, it's very difficult today to, you know, not be identified which is positive for the families. Obviously the, but you look at the debacle in Vietnam and the heroism in these wars that are forgotten like in Korea or Vietnam, which people want to look away from, or even today in the beginning of the Iraq and Afghanistan War, those 20 years. The heroism of these young people is extraordinary. And it goes back to Normandy, it goes back to Guadalcanal, it goes back to Cemetery Ridge. It goes back to, it goes back to Ticonderoga. Right now we're in the middle of, we've had the 250th anniversary of Lexington and Concord. Just a couple weeks ago, we had the 250th anniversary of Ticonderoga. Right now in American history. They're dragging the guns of Ticonderoga to Boston for the defense of Boston. We're about to have one of the most heroic engagements of the American military at Bunker Hill or at Breeds Hill, coming up with the guns of Ticonderoga. It says it's absolutely extraordinary all the way back to the founding of this republic and even before in the French and Indian Wars. The American martial spirit, and that's people are prepared to sacrifice, but they want to make sure there's a purpose to the sacrifice and competence. And that's what President Trump committed on Saturday. It's peace through strength. I'm not going to fight forever wars. We're not going to throw away young people's lives in these policing actions. We're going to have peace through strength. And if we, but when we commit, we're going all in and we're going to commit to victory, an overwhelming force to have victory. Patrick Caudano, your thoughts?
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John Mills
The American way of war, as you say, Steve, is really forged during the American Revolution. And that American way of war is, you know, using overwhelming firepower, using intelligence. But also it's about prudence in attacking, you know, not needlessly, you know, wasting the lives of Americans, but going after an objective and winning. And, you know, that's the important thing. But it's also about, you know, the proper military strategy. I mean, General Washington, in my view, is one of the greatest military commanders because he's able to change course of a major strategy midstream during the war multiple times. You know, he has a Fabian strategy and then he, you know, fades out. He doesn't attack a superior army, uses a regular warfare properly. And then, you know, as the war ends or it comes, you know, this is an eight year war. He's able to hold things together internally. He's able to manage allies, which is an incredibly, you know, important thing. And you don't see that in a commander in chief until Blackjack Pershing in World War I, where he has to manage allies as well. So he has an incredible role that he plays in really forging the American way of war. And so much of our theory of war comes from the American Revolution. I had family members at Lexington and Concord that, you know, it spans all the way back. That DNA spans all the way back to the American Revolutionary War.
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Steve Bannon
You know, Steve Gruber put us, I guess I was the President's left, I think the White House. He's en route to Arlington National Cemetery. The Marine Corps band is playing. There's a group of American citizens of really families of the fallen and also veterans of our current war, and particularly the greatest generation. Walk us through what's going on, sir.
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Steve Gruber
You know, as I mentioned here earlier, I was. It's a great privilege to be here. I met these two veterans of World War II, and I was thinking about, you know, when I was born. When you were born, World War II had only been done for a few years. Korea had only been done for a couple of years when you were born. So when I grew up, I knew lots of veterans from World War II, certainly from Vietnam and Korea. Most of those are gone now. I mean, the two gentlemen I met from World War II, one that was, you know, putting the ships toward the shores of Normandy, he's 98 years old. The other gentleman that brought him, North Africa and then on to France, 97 years old. Our access to their memories, to their experiences, fading quickly. And we need to embrace that. We need to educate. That's something else about having Donald Trump as commander in chief is having the ability to educate people about what a remarkable country we are. I mean, and you look at Providence in some of these battles that I've been hearing discussing, you know, the Battle of New Orleans, you go to the capital burning in the War of 1812 and the provincial rainstorm that came to put the fire out, or the Battle of Midway, which was clearly unwinnable. We didn't have the numbers the Japanese did. And yet by Providence, this nation is here, and in large part by the 420,000 graves that spread around me here at Arlington today. But it's time to teach our children again about the greatness of this nation and the people that have served it at all levels, in all capacities. And that's a really. And I feel it in the younger generation today more than I have in a long time, Steve. And that is a patriotism. When I see the students of North Carolina and Alabama tearing down other flags, putting the American flag up and defending the flag pole with honor.
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Steve Bannon
Yep.
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Steve Gruber
Not because they're in the military, but because they're Americans, dammit, and it matters. Right.
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Steve Bannon
You're seeing also the recruiting pickup under President Trump.
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Steve Gruber
Absolutely.
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Steve Bannon
Parents particularly, are comfortable that President Trump will be very judicious in the commitment of American troops. It's not that we're not going to fight. We're going to fight right now. I'm telling you, we're on a razor's edge. As Captain Fennell reminds me, we're in a razor's edge of this kinetic part of the Third World War, expanding and drawing in the United States of America. So understand on this Memorial Day, this is just not for our honored dead. This is also for those you're looking at, remember the two gentlemen he's talking about World War II there, one that was on a beach landing craft at Normandy. They were probably, they looked, I think the math works that they were teenagers, officers. You're talking about the young. You know, the casualty rates are always highest among the young. Right. In combat. And this is what President Trump has committed to. President Trump has committed to a judicious execution of American national security policy. At the same time, he's trying to put out really a brutal, kinetic part of the Third World War. And if you don't think it's brutal, look at what happened in Kyiv last night. And as we said, the Russians are going to be tough to deal with. We believe it's imperative to pull the Russians away from the Chinese Communist Party. But they hit Kiev last night to the fact that got President Trump's dander up. The Marine Corps band playing some of the historic music of John Philip Sousa. Some of the great. See the Tomb of the Unknown there. Maybe we can bring that in on. I'll split shot to you waiting the president's arrival. Gruber, you know, the, the, the, and, and, and Patrick, section 60 is the section open up for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans. There's a. I remember Andrew Breitbart when Andrew brought a new house over by ucla. It backed up to the Los Angeles National Military Cemetery. That, that's right there in Westwood. It's right next to the 4 or 5 and the section 60 there, the new section for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans was really near. Andrew's house was kind of on a ridge overlooking it, but it was close to Andrew's house. It's one of the things, many things that really brought him from being a liberal to really being one of America's great patriots is seeing the young families, families of, of young widows and children and babies that would come and not just be there for the burials, but then come back over and over again to lay wreaths or just be there with their loved ones. And it had a searing impact on him. And I agree with you, Steve. This is one of the things I think President Trump's going to get us back to more and more of these commemorations on days. I mean, as a veteran, I 100% agree with what he's trying to do on Veterans Day is make it more about the ending of World War I. He's trying to get into people's memory, the historical nature of the conflicts we've had and why they've been so important for the freedoms and liberty of the current generation and down through time. Steve Gruber, your thoughts?
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Steve Gruber
I agree with you that. The 11th hour, the 11th day, November 11, of course, the end of World War I. And, you know, reflecting what you guys have been talking about there with Patrick and so forth, the number of people that died in that conference in America shocked the public. And he's right from there straight into the global pandemic, the Spanish flu, America. We got punched pretty hard a few times right there. And again, that's as I said earlier, as I look at these rows of marble headstones, you reflect on this. This ripples through time, through generations, widows, UN and families who have lost everything. And you talk about Andrew Breitbart seeing the young families come around, and it changed his perspective. You can't help but be moved by looking across these fields. And we don't want more of these fields. We want to create peace to strength. We cannot be where we were for the last four years. We have to make a step forward. We have to invest. We have to make sure that places, as you mentioned earlier, Taiwan and other places are defending against tyranny. Nothing more tyrannical than the Chinese Communist Party, without question. And you see what happened at Kiev last night with the attack with the drones and the missiles and so forth, at least a dozen killed there, and Donald Trump irate over it. How are you ever going to bring this war to an end if you continue to behave as such? It seems to me that Putin doesn't want the war to end. I'm not sure Zelenskyy does either, but Donald Trump does. Donald Trump wants that war to end because he knows the cost by being here. And you can't help but be moved. You can't help but be moved looking at this, this place on any day. But no more so than today on Memorial Day. And Donald Trump's Message to the world is peace, but it's through strength, not weakness. It's not Patrick not taking me. It's taking a first step forward.
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Steve Bannon
Gruber and I are talking about this, this kind of the kinetic part of the Third World War that our theory of the case has started and President Trump's trying to stop it. But I make the argument all the time this is much bloodier, with a million and a half casualties dead and wounded in Ukraine and, you know, tens of thousands in Gaza right now. And you got the Houthis. You got it is. You're the historian. I argue that this is actually bloodier than the start of the traditional start of the European war of 1939-19, 1941. At least the European side. I guess if you put in the Chinese side and the global part of it, it might match it. But this is as bloody a conflict as we've ever seen.
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Patrick K. O'Donnell
Sir.
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John Mills
Yeah, the. The bookends of that war, you know, really, I mean, it begins in 1937 with the Marco Polo bridge incident in many ways, and how China and Japan clash and tens of thousands of Chinese and Japanese troops are kill 1939, and it just continues to go. And I think the key here really, though, is economics. It's preparedness, it's bringing back supply chains. And I'm just reminded of the Cold War, and that's the importance right now is economics, and that will eventually win things. A kinetic war of World War III would be catastrophic and something that the world might be able to sustain.
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Steve Bannon
PATRICK let me toss back to the amphitheater. I think we're starting to get some activity, so just hang on for one second. PATRICK kombat Historian let's go back to the amphitheater. CEREMONIAL at ease. Sam SA.
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Steve Gruber
CEREMONIAL.
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John Mills
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Steve Bannon
To let's go to Steve Gruber. Steve Gruber is in the as we await the president, Steve Gruber put us inside the amphitheater, sir.
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Steve Gruber
It is a packed event here today. Standing room only as families gather here and just friends, extended family, I suppose, because we're all Americans. Extended family. Places packed. We're waiting to hear the report of the cannon. I've not heard that yet. The Marine band playing Cape Towns. A lot of standards, of course, for the military and waiting for the president to arrive here today with a message of There are the cannons. As we speak, the president is on the grounds of Arlington. So there you have the cannon just touched off me, the commander in chief. There it is again. Sure you can hear that.
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Steve Bannon
Yep, the howitzers.
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Steve Gruber
So he is here. Yep, he's here. And there's a third report he is on the grounds the 45th should be a 20.
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Steve Bannon
Should. Should be. Should be a 21 gun salute right?
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Steve Gruber
I would assume that is exactly correct. It increase the front front row center file ready gross Ready. Front dress center dress ready front cover.
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Steve Bannon
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Steve Gruber
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Steve Bannon
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Steve Gruber
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John Mills
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Steve Gruber
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John Mills
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Steve Bannon
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