Episode 4522: Trump's Tariff Battle Wages On After Victory In Court

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room

Title: Episode 4522: Trump's Tariff Battle Wages On After Victory In Court
Release Date: May 29, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Platform: WarRoom.org

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Introduction

In Episode 4522 of Bannon’s War Room, host Steve Bannon delves deep into the ongoing battle over President Donald Trump's tariff policies, the intricate dynamics of U.S.-Israel relations, the escalating constitutional crisis involving the judiciary, and the tense geopolitical climate surrounding Iran. The episode features insightful discussions with experts like Josh Hammer and Mike Lindell, providing listeners with a comprehensive analysis of current events shaping the global landscape.

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1. Trump’s Tariff Battle and Legal Victory

Overview:
The episode opens with a discussion on the reinstatement of Trump's tariffs by a U.S. Appeals Court after they were previously struck down by the International Court of Trade.

Key Points:

• Legal Proceedings:
  Josh Hammer explains that the Federal Circuit has reinstated Trump's tariffs during the appeal process, reversing the International Trade Court's decision that deemed the tariffs unauthorized.

  Josh Hammer [08:03]: "The appeals court says, yes, you do have that authority, at least for now."

• Economic Uncertainty:
  Grace highlights the economic uncertainty caused by the ongoing litigation, emphasizing the confusion faced by businesses and importers regarding future tariff rates.

  Grace [08:23]: "There is still indecision overall about what happens next and what rates tariffs will be for these different countries in the days and weeks ahead."

• Political Reactions:
  Pam Bondi discusses the broader political implications, noting the rhetoric from figures like Stephen Miller who label judicial setbacks as a "judicial coup," further fueling uncertainty.

  Pam Bondi [09:39]: "We don't accept the balance of powers as written in the Constitution, but you brand it as a coup."

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2. U.S.-Israel Relations and President Trump’s Role

Overview:
Steve Bannon and Josh Hammer explore the delicate relationship between the United States and Israel, focusing on President Trump’s efforts to prevent further escalation in the Middle East.

Key Points:

• Diplomatic Efforts:
  Bannon emphasizes Trump’s role as a peacemaker, aiming to avoid exacerbating conflicts that could lead to a Third World War.

  Steve Bannon [02:00]: "President Trump is trying to be the peacemaker... he wants other alternatives and diplomatic and economic solutions to take care of the situation."

• Polling and Public Opinion:
  Surveys discussed by Bannon reveal a significant drop in American support for Israel under Netanyahu’s leadership, especially among younger voters.

  Steve Bannon [03:10]: "Polling is horrible. And under 35, it's 100 to 0."

• Military and Economic Pressure:
  Bannon advocates for increased economic and military pressure on Israel, suggesting measures like a naval blockade to curb oil exports to China.

  Steve Bannon [03:10]: "They’re shipping out 2 million barrels a day to the Chinese Communist Party... put them to their knees."

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3. Judicial Insurrection and Constitutional Crisis

Overview:
A significant portion of the episode addresses what Steve Bannon terms a "judicial insurrection," highlighting conflicts between the executive branch and the judiciary.

Key Points:

• Constitutional Crisis:
  Josh Hammer asserts that the United States is in a constitutional crisis due to unprecedented judicial overreach, likening it to historical conflicts faced by President Abraham Lincoln.

  Josh Hammer [16:41]: "We are knee deep in a constitutional crisis... they have to know they're not going to win this."

• Article III Courts:
  Bannon and Hammer discuss the partisan nature of Article I courts, such as the International Court of Trade, and their role in limiting presidential authority.

  Steve Bannon [23:16]: "This is a crisis entirely of Article 3's own making."

• Legislative Responses:
  Hammer critiques the lack of appetite within Congress to address judicial overreach, despite recommendations for impeachment and jurisdiction stripping.

  Josh Hammer [19:42]: "There is a lot that Congress and the President can do... but there should be more appetite."

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4. Geopolitical Tensions: Iran and the Third World War

Overview:
The discussion shifts to the volatile situation in the Middle East, particularly focusing on Iran’s nuclear ambitions and the potential for widespread conflict.

Key Points:

• Maximizing Pressure on Iran:
  Both Bannon and Hammer advocate for escalating economic sanctions against Iran, particularly targeting its oil and natural gas exports.

  Josh Hammer [35:21]: "The easiest way to make this regime hurt is energy. They don't really have a whole lot of advanced industries."

• Diplomacy vs. Military Action:
  Hammer expresses a preference for diplomacy over military intervention but remains skeptical due to Iran's deceitful stance and ongoing hostility towards the U.S.

  Josh Hammer [34:31]: "I strongly prefer diplomacy to anything else. But I'm skeptical simply because of the counterparty."

• Impact of BRICS Summit:
  Bannon warns about the BRICS nations' plans to displace the U.S. dollar as the global reserve currency, highlighting the potential economic turmoil that could ensue.

  Steve Bannon [29:41]: "The Rio Reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality."

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5. Media Influence and Mass Incarceration

Overview:
The episode critiques mainstream media and the Democratic Party’s stance on mass incarceration, juxtaposing it with President Trump’s policies aimed at reform.

Key Points:

• Media Bias:
  Bannon accuses the media of perpetuating lies about President Trump’s administration, particularly regarding mass incarceration and criminal justice reform.

  Steve Bannon [46:19]: "This is the bald faced lies they tell and this is why they're losing."

• Trump’s First Step Act:
  Bannon defends Trump’s First Step Act as a significant move against mass incarceration, contrasting it with Democratic policies that he claims perpetuate the problem.

  Steve Bannon [46:19]: "President Trump is 100% against mass incarcerations. What he is for is the First Step Act."

• Impact on Communities:
  The discussion highlights how Trump’s policies are gaining support from African American and Hispanic communities, reversing previous voting trends.

  Steve Bannon [46:19]: "This is why African American men are voting for President Trump and the MAGA movement in record numbers."

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6. Political Campaigns and the MAGA Movement

Overview:
Steve Bannon reflects on the evolution of the MAGA movement over the past decade, emphasizing its resilience and the pivotal role of President Trump.

Key Points:

• Rise of MAGA:
  Bannon recounts President Trump’s rise from a marginal candidate to the leading figure of the MAGA movement, highlighting key moments that galvanized support.

  Steve Bannon [37:47]: "In this decade of everything that's gone on with President Trump, everything that's gone on with the MAGA movement... we've gone through a decade together."

• Future Outlook:
  He underscores the importance of the upcoming months as crises converge, positioning Trump’s leadership as crucial in navigating economic, constitutional, and geopolitical challenges.

  Steve Bannon [37:47]: "We're in it, folks. And... the next couple of hundred days... will be talked about for the next couple of hundred years."

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Notable Quotes

• Steve Bannon [03:10]: "President Trump is adamant about this... he wants other alternatives and diplomatic and economic solutions to take care of the situation."

• Josh Hammer [16:41]: "We are knee deep in a constitutional crisis... they have to know they're not going to win this."

• Pam Bondi [09:39]: "There is enormous amounts of uncertainty in the economy... Real questions about how this policy might play out in practice."

• Steve Bannon [29:24]: "This was 10 years ago... but it's been over a decade together."

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Conclusion

Episode 4522 of Bannon’s War Room presents a fervent analysis of the current political and economic struggles facing the United States. From the reinstatement of Trump's tariffs and the complexities of U.S.-Israel relations to the deepening constitutional crisis and mounting tensions with Iran, Steve Bannon and his guests provide a staunch critique of the establishment. The episode underscores the resilience and strategic maneuvers of the MAGA movement, positioning it as a pivotal force in shaping the nation’s future amidst a landscape fraught with uncertainty and conflict.

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Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

Go it alone. It's the end of the American relationship with Israel. It's just the end of it. It's just. You can't. Because we're so tied to them. We're going to. Because it's not just blowing the nuclear thing. First off, we haven't done anything really on putting economic pressure on them. The president's got a whole toolbox in the news. President Trump is adamant about this. And listen, he's trying to. He's trying to make sure. What he's trying to do is make sure we don't exacerbate the Third World War. Right now, the kinetic part, all the way from Kursk through Kiev, that whole arc of instability, the president is on his shoulders. He's got Wyckoff as lead negotiator, but he's got a lot of people working on this. And Kristi Noem, she didn't go over there to talk about the two young people who were assassinated. As horrible as that was, she didn't need to go there. She went over to deliver a message. And that message is pretty blunt to Bibi. And Bibi's got to learn how to read the room because there's just no support of that whatsoever. The polling is horrible. And under 35, it's 100 to 0, so. And we haven't put any economic pressure on them. They're still shipping out 2 million barrels a day to the Chinese Communist Party through the Straits of Hormuz. Let's take one of the carrier battle groups in the Red Sea and put it right there and say, hey, we're going to fully stop. President Trump had them to their knees.

[Katie Turr]

See folks. See, folks. Economically, this is, this is Steve Benton's economic pressure.

[Mike Lindell]

Put a couple of carrier battle groups.

[Katie Turr]

Put some aircraft carriers and some support.

[Steve Bannon]

You never know. Hold it. My word to Levin is, hey, you never know what's going to happen. You do a, you do a full, you know, do a full naval blockade on the oil. You never know where that's going to play out. Yeah, right. We have, look, the MOLAs. I 100% agree with Mark and the other guys. You know, we have Rabbi Walecki on here. So many of the guys who are closer in Israel that you can't have a verification program. Part of the. What Wyckoff and those guys are talking about, because these mullahs are crazy. They're also totally dishonest and their policy is against the United States. You have to have a program, I think, to take it apart brick by brick. But President Trump Gets briefed on this every day. He's got a guy that's so close to him in Wyckoff leading the negotiations. Right. Overall, I think you got to let him play his hand out. And he's also been adamant. This is not something he is kind of playing hide the football. He's up front. I want other alternatives and diplomatic and economic solutions to take care of the situation. I do not want the kinetic war that's already in Gaza, that's already in Kyiv, that's now in Kursk in Russian territory all the way down to the tip of the Arabian Peninsula with the Houthis in the Red Sea in Kashmir. That whole arc of instability. You light a match, that whole thing can go up. And you got guys with nuclear weapons all over the place there. This thing could get as ugly as you possibly can. And Trump is trying to be the peacemaker and you got to let him play his hand. And to have Bibi saying, hey, we're going to go it alone. You can't go it alone. We know that. We're your biggest sponsor.

[Katie Turr]

It's not really going to flip the American people. You can see the wink in his when he said, we're going to go it alone. Like, we know it's what Israel going alone is, is us supporting him, just not officially supporting him.

[Steve Bannon]

This is my point. I think American public opinion, I mean, Charlie Kirk just, just put a poll up with a couple hundred thousand people on it. And Charlie's a defender of Israel. I think he put a poll up about Israel going along, what would happen. I think 27% of the respondents saying we would continue to have the support, monetary support. Another, I think 15% said support but no money. And then I don't know what's the delta. 67% or 57. 60%, 65% said cut off everything.

[Katie Turr]

58. Yeah, cut him off. Cut them off.

[Mike Lindell]

58.

[Steve Bannon]

I mean, come on.

[Katie Turr]

Look, we are, we're weary. We're done supporting foreign, I mean, you know, clandestine operations. You know how this stuff works. We have to tell everyone who we're supporting everywhere. I guess.

[Steve Bannon]

Hold it, but. Hold it, hold it. Hold. But Hang on, hang on. But you're talking about something totally different there. I'm talking about a military invasion either backed by the United States with our support and. Or Israel does alone, or an air raid, air bombing campaign, which they said, hey, they're on their, they're on their back foot now. That versus economic warfare, paramilitary espionage, like was a Stutniks, all those types of things that's a different, that's a different deal. But I think a direct military involvement. The nation is tired. The Nation has spent 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan and you know, $9 trillion, 10,000 KIA's, 50,000 wounded. It's just not going to do it. There's just no support of that. In fact, there's anti support in the polling on Israel. And I know from our audience, which are MAGA and used to be huge supporters of Israel, that support's dramatically dropped. You just gotta take that into the calculation. And I think President Trump is, and President Trump is not quiet about this. He's adamant about this. Bibi had two shots in the Oval Office. He came with the first time. If Trump wanted to talk, Bibi wanted to talk air assault into, into Persia. Trump wanted to talk about Trump Gaza. Right. We're making it a beachfront property. Remember, drop that bomb on Bibi. Bibi's sitting there with the big eyes and he goes in the East Room and Trump's holding a press conference about the new condos. And then the second time, Bibi came over, remember, four weeks later to talk about the tariffs, that was also to talk about the bombing. President Trump dropped the bomb on him in the room that, hey, we're directly negotiating. We, the United States of America are directly negotiating with the Persians and we're doing it in Oman and we're going to shift and do it in the Vatican. You gotta read the room. The President of the United States. Israel's never had a bigger defender of Israel than Donald John Trump. They just haven't. And he's pretty adamant about this. And I think they ought to take some things and say, hey, look, you know, we're all in for you. We'll take your guidance on this. And now you're not seeing it. I would argue that Mike Waltz is not the National Security, not the head of, not nsa, not the National Security advisor about this very topic, brother.

[Katie Turr]

Yeah, no, I agree with you. I agree with Mag. I agree with you. I just, I know there's no way to trust who, whoever we're dealing with, whoever the persons we're dealing with, whoever we're negotiating with in the Middle east, none of them can be trusted, including the Iranians. And at some point it worked. In the 80s, Israel took care of business and it bought them 40 more years of no nuclear proliferation out of Iran. Your show.

[Steve Bannon]

Sorry, hang on, I'm, I'm going to get, I'm going to get the rumor. Hang on, I'm going to get the rumor mill Going here because we know a lot of liberal journalists and producers on MSNBC watch the show. You know, Howard Lutnick. I don't know if Howard over commerce is here in the footsteps, but you never know. It could be Eric Bolling, new Secretary of Commerce. Eric Bolling, that tip to you, sir.

[Katie Turr]

I have the covenant.

[Steve Bannon]

Tell me.

[Katie Turr]

I got the covenant. I can't give up here.

[Steve Bannon]

I got the coveted 4:00 clock. I got the coveted 4:00 clock. Where's Rob Sig? I got to look at this deal, right? I got the coveted, I got the coveted 4 o' clock. Pre, pre war room lead up, right?

[Katie Turr]

That's it. I got the coveted five minutes with Bannon every 455. Every 455. That's it. That's it. I want to give that up.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Always talking with you.

[Katie Turr]

Tomorrow.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, sir. Eric Bolling, true story. Call him up. Said f the five, get over here. And he got over there. Well, Reince and I talked to him about being Secretary of Commerce and he turned us down. Little known story. Let's go. We got Josh Hammer. A lot going on today. Let's go. We got cold open. Maybe I'll actually ask Josh about the entire situation in the Middle East. But he's here to give us some legal opinions, observations. Go ahead and play the cold open.

[Josh Hammer]

A US Appeals court has reinstated Donald Trump's tariffs during the appeals process. So the International Court of Trade, which is a federal court, by the way, said, no, you don't have the authority to do this, wiping out a lot of those tariffs. Well, now Donald Trump appealed it and the appeals court says, yes, you do have that authority, at least for now.

[Grace]

And this is exactly what the White House wanted, what they said this morning they were going to do, they were going to go to this D.C. appeals court and they would say, look, we want you to stay the International Trade Court decision for now while this moves forward. And the White House had said they would appeal directly to the Supreme Court if they didn't hear from the appeals court. Now they have heard from a D.C. appeals court, pausing any tariffs, any tariff changes while the case is litigated. What I think is interesting is you've got another deadline here, July 9th. That's when those original, I put it in air quotes, reciprocal tariffs. When the president stood there in the Rose Garden with that big chart with all those numbers that he was going to charge people, then he paused some of those, then some went back on. But July 9th is when there's supposed to be Some clarity that those reciprocal tariffs, that's what the International Trade Court said he did not have the authority to impose. Now this D.C. appeals court saying, okay, we're going to pause that International Trade Court decision until this litigates goes through the appeals process. So we're back to where we were a day and a half ago. And this is, this is part and parcel, Katie, of the frustration for businesses and importers because it just means there still is indecision overall about what happens next and what rates tariffs will be for these different countries in the days and weeks ahead.

[Pam Bondi]

There's so much uncertainty in how the tariffs will be rolled out. I mean, even as I was coming up the elevator to this student studio, the news broke that the court's decision last night had been halted today and the tariffs would remain in effect. So I don't. Or that he did, you know, as the case move, move forward, the lower court's position would, would not stand. So I think that there's enormous amount of uncertainty in the economy and the two choices that Robert laid out, I think it's worth fast, it's worth looking at what qualifies as a victory these days. So, you know, let's say that the TrumpThat, Trump's orders are halted, that he's not able to enact the tariffs as he would like. That would be because courts had stopped him. And then you have the likes of Stephen Miller saying this is a judicial coup. I mean, the idea that that would be a victory is pretty striking, that you don't accept the balance of powers as written in the Constitution, but you brand it as a coup, and then what further action does that kind of rhetoric enable? So I think we're dealing with enormous amounts of uncertainty still in the economy. Real questions about how this policy might play out in practice. But then we have come to learn over the course of Trump's two terms now that rhetoric matters, you know, so I don't really see this as, you know, a real victory here. There are two bad options.

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. Prison's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Katie Turr]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Steve Bannon]

MAGA media.

[Katie Turr]

I wish in my soul I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Katie Turr]

War Room here's your host, Stephen k. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Thursday 29 May, year of our Lord 2025. Josh Hamburger. The great Josh Hamburger. So, Josh, I got a lot of things to talk to you about. We got three minutes in this blue block. Make this make sense. What's going on, sir?

[Josh Hammer]

Well, the International Corps of Trade dramatically oversteps, Steve, and the U.S. federal Circuit has put a pause on it. It's just a procedural pause. They're going to let both sides file their legal arguments. Let it play out here. We're dealing here with a 1977 Jimmy Carter era statute known as the International Emergency or Economic Emergency Powers Act. Now the real question in this litigation, again, what happened today is all just procedural stuff. The Federal Circuit basically saying, okay, you guys overstep there. The actual question is really more one of who decides? Because the relevant underlying statute says that when there is a foreign economic, commercial emergency, then the President United States can do XYZ things. So the question, Steve, really is do the political branches get to decide what is an economic emergency or do these unelected judges in the judiciary get to decide what is an emergency? And when you're dealing with the case.

[Steve Bannon]

On fentanyl, the thing's 100 pages long, they just correct me if I'm wrong and we'll go to break on this. But they dismissed the whole fentanyl and you know, Canada, Mexico, the ccp, the million people destroyed by fentanyl, the whole issue. Didn't this three judge panel kind of dismiss this and get into the meat of kind of trade and didn't even take the emergence, what President Trump said is the emergency that drew this out, they kind of dismissed that, didn't they?

[Josh Hammer]

Yeah, so they're focusing mostly, if I understand it correctly, on the, on the, on the so called reciprocal tariffs. Now there's, there's three trade statues. It's actually very confusing. So, so there is the Trade Expansion act of 1962, there is the Trade act of 1974, tail end of Nixon, beginning of the Ford administration. And then there's the one that, that was in question from the International Trade Court, which is the, which is the ieepa, the Jimmy Carter era statute. Now the trade court did not touch the 1962 or the 1974 statute. So for instance, a lot of these tariffs when it comes to steel, aluminum, automobiles, none of that was touched here. If I understand correctly, the focus of this court was primarily on the reciprocal tariffs. But the Federal Circuit is basically saying, you know, put a pause button on this. Steve. The real issue is when you have this, this rollout that judges get to just put a stop to there, I mean markets, investors, traders, anyone involved in commerce, you need some sort of stability here. So when you have this kind of litigation and kind of willy nilly the judge does this, the appellate court does that, there, that is not the way to achieve success. But ultimately I think these people don't really care about success. What they fundamentally care about is just getting Donald Trump.

[Steve Bannon]

Josh, hang on for a second. The great Josh Hammer joins us. Also some questions. Got a magnificent book out about Israel. Want to talk to him about this entire fracas we have right now in Persia. The great Josh Hammer joins us after a short commercial break. You went and lost your pride.

[Katie Turr]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Katie Turr]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Steve Bannon]

So Hammer, are we in? We talk about this coming constitutional crisis. We're in it right now, are we not?

[Josh Hammer]

Yeah Steve. We are knee deep in a constitutional crisis and we're knee deep in the Constitutional crisis, not because Donald Trump is a dictator, fascist, Nazi, Stalin, whatever they wanna call him. No, I mean, we were in a constitutional crisis right now because Donald Trump is facing an unprecedented judicial insurrection the likes of which no president in this country has faced since wartime President Abraham Lincoln himself, dealing with Roger Taney and channel slavery, and a genuine literal insurrection like which we have never seen before. And there's ultimately only one way that this is going to end. This is kind of the craziest point to me, Steve. The craziest point to me is that the judiciary, including the International Court of Trade earlier today, which, by the way, that's a partisan court, by the way, this is actually one of those Article 1 congressionally created courts deep in the bowels of the executive branch. It has partisan designations. You have to have certain Republican nominees, Democrat nominees. So the media was reporting that a Trump appointee to the International Court of Trade was the one who struck down these tariffs. But yeah, it was technically a Trump nominee from the first term, but he was literally a Democrat because it's statutorily required that you have a certain partisan Republican, Democrat mix on that court. So the media, just disingenuous and dishonest as always. But we're in this crisis and the judiciary more generally speaking, whether it's these executive branch courts like the trade court or the bread and butter of the Article 3 federal courts, they have to know they're not going to win. They are not going to win this because they still are literally, as Hamilton told us in federal 78, they literally are the least dangerous branch and they have neither force nor will, but merely judgment. They literally depend, as Hamilton again said, on the efficacy of the executive branch. Even for the enforcement of their own judgments. They do not have the tools in their checks and balances, in their separation of powers, in their toolkit to win this in the long term. The only question is how long is it going to take for them to learn the message? And how much can Congress and President Trump, how much can the other two branches turn the screws to deliver the message there? So I've been all in me, Mike Davis, all of us, Article III project. We've been all in trying to get all tools on the table, whether it's judicial impeachment of bozos like Judge Boasberg in D.C. whether it's trying to jurisdiction strip legislation, whether it's trying to potentially abolish entire judgeships. There is a lot, there's a lot that Congress and the President can do to get the judiciary to understand the message there. But this judicial insurrection, Steve, has to stop because we are absolutely in a constitutional crisis and is a crisis entirely of Article 3's own making.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, but there's zero. Would you not agree with me? There's zero appetite. I mean, Mike Davis, you guys laid out a quite brilliant menu of what should be, of what should happen over at the House to kick things off. Impeachment hearings, even investigations, calling guys in to be questioned publicly, cutting off $2 billion of the 10. They get to send a signal that they're not going to get fully funded, cut out some jurisdictions. There was zero appetite by the heroes up in the House to even address any of that, was it not?

[Josh Hammer]

Sir, I totally agree with you. There should be more appetite. I mean, look, you have some congressmen like Brandon Gill, the first term Congressman from Texas, who's kind of been the tip of the spear when it comes to judicial impeachment efforts there. When it comes to some of the bolder stuff, when it comes to trying to strip jurisdiction there, there's really not a whole lot of appetite there. Frankly. I would hope for a lot more from, from Chairman Jim Jordan on the House Judiciary Committee and folks like that. Look, you definitely have some folks here. I mean, Chip Roy knows a thing or two about the law. I think Congressman Roy would be very, well, positively inclined towards a lot of what we at Article 3 Project are preaching there. But you're totally right, Steve. I mean, when we say these things, there are only a smaller handful of congressmen. Andy Biggs, to be clear, there definitely are some people who get it there. But it's pretty much slim pickings. And I think the reason that it's slim pickings is because even in many Republican capital or Republican Party circles, this broader myth of judicial supremacy, that the judiciary can do no wrong and that no matter what they say, even if It's a bare 5 to 4 decision of the Supreme Court there, it is automatically the law of the land. And this is just, it's a mind virus. It's a total mind disease. The same way the so called separation of church and state is a lie. But people think that it's there because it's been repeated ad infinitum for decades and decades. So too do people think that the judiciary has the final binding say on all things legal, constitutional or statutory or otherwise. Because it's just been, it's just been repeated by everyone for decades and decades. And when you just tell a lie, Steve, for long enough and long enough and long enough, eventually it just seeps into the broader body politic.

[Steve Bannon]

You went to Chicago Law School, right?

[Josh Hammer]

Yes, sir.

[Steve Bannon]

So you're particularly twisted because that's one of the toughest law schools in the country. But you guys at Chicago, they have an angle of attack, the way that you're taught the law. Correct.

[Josh Hammer]

UChicago is probably known bestie for developing the law and economics curriculum. That was kind of their big thing back in the 1960s. That's actually kind of why I went there in the first place. I studied economics in college, briefly worked in economic consulting in Washington D.C. for two years between college and law school. So this was 12 years ago now. But when I first decided to go to University of Chicago for law school was largely because of that law and economics background back in the day, Steve, back during the Reagan era, University of Chicago Law School was a firmly right of center law school. And that continued really into the 1990s, arguably even into the early 2000s. Unfortunately, my Alma mater has taken a leftward turn, but it's probably still better than most of its other peer institutions overall.

[Steve Bannon]

But it has a frame of reference. A has shifted left isn't, correct me if I'm wrong, but President Trump and part of it's anti Semitism, but it's deeper than that. It's. It gets to your book. It's anti the Judeo Christian west, it's anti Western civilization. His confrontation with Harvard and the confrontation with the big law firms and the confrontation on judicial supremacy, isn't that one thing? Right. It's connected. Harvard and these places are the breeding ground of it. The law firms is where it gets exacerbated and they get promoted and then they get into these neo Marxists, get into the judiciary. And this is why we have the problem. And so the assault on those, or I should say the confrontation of those is actually a fundamental fight about the direction of this country and who actually controls this country, sir.

[Josh Hammer]

Yeah. So Harvard is the tip of the spear, literally, actually, because, I mean, let's think about the affirmative action litigation that reached the Supreme Court just two years ago in 2023, that case was Students for Fair Admissions versus Harvard College. I mean, Harvard was. Harvard lost that case, Steve. They have not exactly responded in kind. But when President Trump signed probably his single most dynamic and paradigm shifting executive order of his entire presidency so far. And he signed a lot, to be clear. But in my opinion, it was that DEI executive order on January 20 that, among other things, interpreted the affirmative action case, the Student for Fair admissions case of 2023, it interpreted that as banning DEI in general, and any thumb on the scale that would discriminate against white people, Asian people, Christians, Jews, Mormons, essentially against anyone in this neo Marxist dichotomy, as you say, between oppressors and oppressed. And to tie it into my book, Israel and Civilization, yes, this is part of the broader assault on the west for numerous reasons. But I argue in the book, Steve, that the singular underlying ethical underpinning of all that we call Western civilization, of the entire biblical worldview, the entire biblical inheritance, if I had to really pinpoint one verse, one verse from the entire Bible that really undergirds all of this, in my humble opinion, it would be Genesis 1:27. So in Latin that would be Imago Dei. In Hebrew we would say b'tselem elohim. This is the imperative that God made man in his own image, male and female. He created them. This is the undergird for all of Western civilization. When John Locke wrote in his second treatise in 17th century England about natural rights to life, liberty and property, when Jefferson kind of borrowed that Lockean language writing the declaration in 1776, that there they weren't writing these things in a vacuum, they were talking about the inalienable equal dignity and human worth of human beings there, because they were writing in a certain contextual milieu there. And that is Genesis 1:27. That is the Bible, the Judeo Christian tradition, more broadly speaking there. When you abandon that, when you abandon Genesis, when you abandon the Bible, more broadly speaking, you're going to really dangerous territory. And among the things that you're gonna go to is affirmative action DEI. All the various things that reject Imago DEI, that reject Genesis 1:27, are gonna put in an overt FL thumb on the scale in favor of bolstering certain ethnicities, nationalities religions, then punishing certain ethnicities, nationalities religions. That is ultimately, Steve, how the west goes to die. That's at least what I argue in my book.

[Steve Bannon]

And talk to me. We got a minute or two. I want to hold you through the break because I want to get into this Persian situation. How does that talk to me? How does that play out now about the defense of Western civilization? How's it playing out? What's happening at Harvard, the big law firms and this judicial insurrection?

[Josh Hammer]

Well, the big law firms have increasingly become just a total cancer on the body politic. I mean, these people have been at war with anything remotely resembling Americanism or Westernism for decades. I mean, I remember Jenner and Block, which is one of the many big law firms that Donald Trump has appropriately gone after. I remember Jenner and Block back during the Bush administration. This is back when I was school, in high high school. I mean, they became infamous nationwide for defending al Qaeda terrorists at Gitmo and doing on a pro bono basis. I mean, this is subversive behavior. I mean this is domestic fifth column behavior there. These are not people that are ultimately out to serve the common good. They are ultimately out to tear down. I think fundamentally that is what is happening there. And Donald Trump, as in many other instances, I think is fundamentally seeking to uphold the Americanist and western worldview.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Katie Turr]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Steve Bannon]

Josh, first of all, a couple of people in the engine room ask why are you not in the White House? Or why are you not volunteering to be special counsel that President Trump needs to prosecute the Deep State? Well, I know your work at Article 3 is important in your columns and all that, but, but why are you not in the White House? Sir.

[Josh Hammer]

I, you know, I've never been asked that point blank, Steve, to be honest with you. I mean, I live in Florida. I don't even, I don't even live in Washington, D.C. you know, look, I'm always, I'm always, always happy to take a phone call if someone wants to, you know, inquire, you know, without revealing too many details. I did have some informal conversations during the transition period there. But, Steve, on a personal level, we just had our first baby, our first daughter in December. My in laws live here. So living in Florida is kind of best for not just professional, but also just very personal reasons right now. So I don't necessarily see it happening, but I'm always happy to answer the phone if someone wants to call.

[Steve Bannon]

You've written this incredible book about Israel and the civilization, Israel in the West. A guy I know, you know well, a guy I admire, one of the smartest guys I know about the Constitution, the single smartest guy named Mark Levin. There's a, there's a big, you know, I guess, disagreement. You can say Kristi Noem goes over to deliver the message to Netanyahu once again. President Trump's got Wyckoff. They got a plan. They're going to go down and negotiate. It's either verification or it's a dismantling. We don't know the details of it yet, but there's no support whatsoever of American involvement, but not even support of Israel doing it on its own. This is getting to be a bigger and bigger firestorm. The other day we had Rabbi Wolicki given one side a couple of days ago. Then we had Kurt Mills over the American conservative, given the other Side, I mean, is Netanyahu's just the inability to read the room because you know President Trump as well as anybody on this issue. We haven't had a more pro Israel president ever than President Trump. He's got Huckabee over there as his ambassador, but he's got a very set way he's looking to do this, particularly in the overall arc from, you know, Kursk to Kiev to the whole arc of instability. The last thing he wants is more gunfire, bombing or kinetic activity. Your thoughts, sir?

[Josh Hammer]

Well, there's a lot to unpack here, of course. So I watched your entire exchange, Steve, with Rabbi Wolicki. Rabbi Wolicki is also a friend of mine. So I watched the entire exchange. I thought it was great. I thought you guys both made very good points. You mentioned Mark Levin. Mark's a friend as well. I'm friends of both of you guys there. Look, this is a tough issue. This is a tough issue partially because it's been around for a long time. I mean, we've been hearing about Iran's nuclear program for probably 25, 30 years now. I mean, arguably even further than that. And there have been some people who have been calling for direct military action, people like John Bolton in that category for probably close to 15 years or so. So, I mean, who am I to say that now is really the time? I mean, I simply don't get the President's daily briefing. I don't get the intelligence that the US Israel or any other countries does. I have no idea, frankly, just how close Iran is to actually getting enough enriched Iranians to be able to put it on a warhead. So that's not really my position, frankly, to be able to judge here. Here are a few things I will say. One, Steve, that I will say is I have never once ever in my entire adult life called for direct US Military action on Iran. Never. I have never said that. It's not my book. It's not my stance. I've never once said it. My stance was actually essentially what Donald Trump did the first time around. I thought that the so called maximum pressure campaign was actually working quite well on the mullahs, bringing them to essentially close to the brink of bankruptcy. You definitely could begin by v upping sanctions on their oil and natural gas exports. I heard you and Eric Bolling talking about that a little bit at the beginning of the show. When it comes to the Chinese Communist Party, that's the number one importer of Iranian oil there. When it comes to the ongoing diplomacy between the Steve Witkoff led American team. And the Iranians look like literally any other American. Any other America. First MAGA Patriot. I strongly prefer diplomacy to anything else. But, but again, to go back to what Eric was saying, and I think that you would agree with this, Steve, you're dealing here with the most deceitful people on the face of the earth. I mean, the mullahs have been lying to the United States, to everyone, like literally everyone, for 25, 30 years. They go to extraordinary lengths to hide the progress of their nuclear program. And let's recall that while Iran is an existential threat to Israel, it's not quite an existential threat to America. It's definitely a threat to America. This regime has had American blood on its hands going back at least as far as the event that formed the regime, the Jimmy Carter era hostage crisis. They chant Death to America in their Potemkin legislature every single day. So you don't want these guys to get a nuke. Now, if it can be done via diplomacy, I'm all in for that. I am skeptical simply because of who we are dealing with. I'm not skeptical of President Trump's intentions at all. I am simply skeptical of the nature of the counterparty. But, I mean, let's see what happens. I mean, I mean, it's still ongoing right now. And you know, my stance at this exact time is, you know, let Donald Trump chew. I mean, let him burn. Let's see what happens.

[Steve Bannon]

But you bring up something, and I don't hear that at the forefront day. This is why I keep banging the table. Go back to the maximum pressure campaign. This is what President Trump and a team, and I was part of that came up the first round because as a young naval officer, I was there at the beginning in the workup to the hostage crisis, right when our battle, you know, our destroyer squadron got called over there when the hostages were taken, and it was all new territory. I mean, the United States had no assets. This is why giving up Diego Garcia like the British did is such a, such a body blow. But the maximum pressure campaign was bringing the mullahs to its knees and causing amazing dissension inside of Persia, where the Persian people said, we've had enough of this. Why are we not? Do you agree? Right now we're nowhere close to a maximum pressure campaign on economic and diplomatic.

[Josh Hammer]

Pressure, Sir, I do agree with that, and I would like to see that dramatically escalate. Now, Biden took a lot of sanctions off of Iran, as we know, he funded the mullahs. There was that absurd exchange of five American hostages for $6 billion, literally $1.2 billion of hostage. That was insubstantia September 2023, just a few weeks prior to the October 7th pogrom in Israel. So Joe Biden undid a lot of the Donald Trump first term era magnet pressure campaign. Trump has put some new sanctions onto Iranian weapons manufacturers, arms dealers, things like that there. But there is a lot left to do. There is a lot of meat left on that bone, so to speak. The easiest way to make this regime hurt is energy. This is essentially a petroleum led country. They don't really have a whole lot of advanced industries, advanced technologies, really anything there. This is, you know, this is not even the UAE or Bahrain. I mean another country in that part of the world that is still primarily oil, natural gas driven there, but also has banking, financial services there. No, Iran is really to this day a country whose economy is very, very largely dependent on oil and natural gas there. And it seems to me like kind of a very low hanging fruit proposition. You can kind of get a two for the price of one if you just sanction the utter crap out of their oil and natural gas exports there. Again, China is the number one importer there. I would very much like to see that happen right now. Here's what I will say. I don't know exactly how you do that simultaneously with the ongoing negotiations there. At least it depends how you are projecting yourself in the negotiations. Right? I mean, so those two things don't necessarily go together so easily there. It's probably achievable. But I share your point, Steve. I mean, to me this is really not kind of an A or B proposition there. It's not like we do nothing or we do like a Barack Obama JCP away, give him a nuke. Or on the other hand you do regime change. I mean, it's not an A or B proposition there. There was a very, very, very large sweet spot somewhere in the middle. It seemed to me like the first Trump term era maximum pressure campaign really kind of hit that sweet spot.

[Steve Bannon]

Josh, where do people get your writings? Where can they get the book?

[Josh Hammer]

So the book is Israel and Civilization, the Fate of the Jewish Nation, the Destiny of the West. It's available at Amazon, Barnes and Noble, wherever you get your books. I'm on X joshammer Instagram is Josh Bhammer. And then my show, the Josh Hammer show is available everywhere. Podcasts are available.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Appreciate you taking the time today.

[Josh Hammer]

Anytime, Steve. Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

The convergence of these crises is going to be because remember, it's 10 years ago, on June 15, that President Trump came down the golden escalator, people remember, at CPAC that took place just 100 days before. I'm talking about the CPAC in 2015. Donald Trump, I think, came in seventh at just over 3%. I think he had three, three and a half percent. And this is how he had been. It was right before Super Tuesday. That's in 2015, right? Not super Tuesday, Super Tuesday later. But it was. He was already out. He had been in Iowa, he'd been in New Hampshire. They'd had that. Been in South Carolina, had that huge event in. They brought all the candidates together at the Sherman Theater in Iowa. President Trump was out and about finished, I think seventh or three and a half percent. He finished. When he's at the top of the escalator, I think he's in seventh place on general polling. After he goes into the escalator and actually addresses the American people. And people realize maga and so many of the. I think at Breitbart, we had five or six people there that cover it wall to wall. That night. He went to number one. And except for Dr. Ben Carson coming close in kind of a tie in a poll that took place a couple months later, President Trump was always in first place. Why? He addressed the American people in a nomenclature and with ideas that they talked amongst themselves or thought, but nobody had the political courage ever to talk about. And guess what? It's the program that he is fighting for every single day. That was 10 years ago. A decade. We've gone through a decade together. And those of you that were with us before, from 14 on, it's been over a decade. But in this decade of everything that's gone on with President Trump, everything that's gone on with the MAGA movement, and think about it for a second, that come from behind. First off, the brutal and tough primary fight in 2015 and 2016, that come from behind. Victory against Hillary Clinton, the massive revolt of the deep state and a nullification project in his first term. And the fight he had every day, you know, every day there, the pandemic unleashed by the Chinese Communist Party to stop the economic flourishing that President Trump had against all odds, the stolen election of 2020. In fact, as I said today, I was talking to people at the New York Post, the heroic nature of the New York Post, printing the laptop from hell and everything that that involved Joe Biden on national tv, a debate lying bald faced lie in the crushing of the New York Post by Facebook, by Twitter at the time, by all the social media accounts, then the stealing of the 2020 election, the fight thereafter, President Trump then leaving to go to Mar a Lago. You remember essentially the political nuclear winter of that early part of 2021 when Fox News would never even put him up and they wouldn't cover him live because they feared he would talk about the stolen election, the long journey back to the 24 primary and his victory then. And then this hand to hand combat in 2024 to win a sweeping victory across the board. This is all historic. Over a decade and you have been an activist, some of you just recently joining or recently coming to the show. That's fine. Many of you here from the beginning, you like veterans of the American Revolution, you understand this is a revolution. All that, everything that happened in that decade, 10 years of your life is just a preamble for what's about to happen. Because now we're in it, folks. And you see the convergence of the kinetic part of the Third World War and what he's trying to do on peace. You see what's happening on try to stop the invasion, which he has stopped. Didn't take a decade, didn't take Lankford's bill. It took a man that had an idea and a plan and executed in 60 days to stop that. Now it's to deport the invader. The fight he's getting by the globalist elite to still run this country, don't think we run it. We have a foothold and we have a man, a leader that is making decisions that are Herculean. This is why I say with all his imperfections, he's at the level of General Washington, he's at the level of Lincoln and you have Trump. Then you got a next lot down. You got Reagan, you got fdr, you got Teddy Roosevelt and others, Jackson. But that top three, you have the birth of the nation, you have the rebirth of the nation and you had the rejuvenation and the salvation of the nation. And now we're in it. 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[Josh Hammer]

So early does make you ask the question, is he sending a message to others. Hey listen, if you want something, just donate to a super PAC or be really vocal about me. Be really vocal about all the good that I'm doing. Give me a reason to help you by helping me.

[Unknown Speaker]

I think that's absolutely right. And it's so funny because you don't really hear him talking about draining the swamp too much anymore because he has fully embraced the swamp down in Washington. It's also quite funny that he tries to present himself as somebody who's interested in serious criminal justice reform when as you point out, it's mostly about flattering his buddies or trying to get something in exchange like the tariff policy was. It's about consolidating his power and also having all of the countries come to him to make a deal so he can be, to borrow from George W. Bush, the decider in these instances. But the Trump administration is a mass incarceration administration and that should not go unsaid when he's trying to position himself as anything but that. Pam Bondi is a former lobbyist for a private prison company. Tom Holman, his border czar, is also heavily involved in private prisons financially. And so this is not an administration that actually wants to take on criminal justice reform. They are warehousing immigrants as we speak without due process. As you.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on, hang on. This is the bald faced lies they tell and this is why they're losing. She's a bald faced liar. Nobody has done more on prison reform and work with prisoners is more anti mass incarceration. The Democratic Party and I say if somebody's in prison and you talk to the black and Hispanic prisoners in there, they'll tell you on August, on September 26th. And Grace, we should put this up because you were involved in this in prison. I put the only statement I think I ever put out in prison prison about the coming victory over Kamala Harris. You know where I got that from the prisoners. Because the Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party and that young lady right there, they represent mass incarcerations. What he's doing with illegal aliens is not mass incarceration. That's deportation of people that have no depressors rights and are going to get the hell out of this country. President Trump, the first step act. Ask the prisoners, ma' am, have you interviewed the prisoners? His first step act is the boldest move ever against mass incarceration. Remember the Democratic Party and particularly the progressive part of the Democratic Party have been for mass incarcerations. And you know who knows that? The families of prisoners. What President Trump is for is mass deportation of illegal aliens and they're going to get mass deported. For you to sit there and Katie Turr, not for you to correct that bald faced lie. And that was a bald faced lie. And Katie Turr, you know better. This is how corrupt MSNBC is. This is why they're kind of, no offense, becoming more and more irrelevant. This is why African American men are voting for President Trump and the MAGA movement in record numbers. This is why the Hispanic community is coming to President Trump and the MAGA movement in record numbers. This is why Starr County, Texas, where We lost by 60 points to Hillary Clinton 2016, President Trump won by 16 points in 2024. A county that's hard scrabbled with working class Hispanics right there in the border. That's 97% Hispanic. 97% Hispanic. No, President Trump is 100% against mass incarcerations. What he is for is the First Step act to try to cut these ridiculously long prison sentences they get from woke federal judges. So don't sit there and tell me he's for that. That is a bald faced lie and you ma' am, are a bald faced liar. If you don't believe me, go to a federal prison and talk to the inmates. Mike Lindell joins us. Mike Lindell, you're going up against this system and what they call the trial of the century. Is it really the trial of the century. Mike Lindell, do you got a shot of winning? Are you going to get smoked in court in Colorado, sir?

[Mike Lindell]

We are going to win, Steve, and it's all come down to this. We're the only ones that have went all the way to jury trial now and, and they remember, they went after my pillow, my pillows being sued. We're the only company that's being sued. This is about right to free speech and everything else. This is, this is going to be the gateway to secure our election. Really believe that. And it's one of the most important cases in history. We're going to look back on it even a year or two from now and go, wow, if that wouldn't have happened in Colorado on June 2nd of 2025 with Mike Mandel. MyPillow, we wouldn't, we wouldn't get to where we're going to get to because we've got to secure our elections before these midterms. These midterms are the most important midterms in history. You see it all the attacks right now, then the lies coming out. Steve, I spent time in, in the prisons around Texas and giving them pillows and everything and doing speeches there with my recovery network. And you're spot on. All of them, all of them, you know, that's the Democrats and stuff that have put the prisoners in there. And with that note back in the 90s, even, I mean, back then when they did, you know, they had all the, I was a crack cocaine user, so I know all of the people that went in for 10 years and stuff for that. And so, you know, there are a lot, there's a lot, lies, lies, lies. But they weaponize the system against us. The FBI came away, came at me. They still have my phone. For four and a half years now, we've been fighting them. They've been attacking me every single day. And Donald Trump's in power. Why are they still attacking? Because they don't want to secure our election. They want to have a free for all. They don't want to have paper ballots hand counted. And we are going to win. Take that to the bank.

[Steve Bannon]

Looking forward to it. We're going to do live coverage of the press conference and the star of the trial on Monday, live from Colorado with the great Colorado team of Real America's Voice. Mike, sell me a pillow. We got about a minute.

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[Steve Bannon]

Good on you. Okay, next hour we're going to get down to it even deeper. Brian Costello, Joe Allen, come back, join me about the coming apocalypse on jobs. Also, I've got two of the greatest cultural creators in the MAGA movement. Next in the war room. Enjoy a delicious glass of Dr. Formulated field of Greens each day and you're going to feel amazing. Plus your doctor will notice your improved health or your money back. How can a fruit and vegetable drink promise better health? Each fruit and vegetable and field of greens was doctor selected support vital organs like heart, liver, kidneys, metabolism, immune system and healthy blood cells. Let me get you started with 20% off and free shipping. Visit fieldofgreens.com and use my code Bannon. That's field of greens.com code Bannon. Remember, every day you get your the max you need of your fruits and vegetables in this real organic superfood. That's field of greens.com code Bannon for 20% off and free shipping to provide.

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