
Episode 4525: Trump Victory In Immigration Courts; Speech Pregame ...
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Natalie Winters
But that was a part of him kind of presenting his product for President Trump. And they had a fun moment in the car and talked about the innovation of Tesla and all of that. So that was one of my personal moments with Elon Musk. But I got to tell you, Mike, that, that, that moment today in the Oval Office kind of firing back at the reporter talking about the New York Times. And that was kind of a fun moment. Even though I wasn't there, I enjoyed watching it.
Mike
You know, I think it's a whole new energy. Okay. It's a whole new energy in the golden age of America. All right, we are going to toss it over to Natalie Winters who's going to pick up anchoring the coverage here as President Trump is getting set to take the stage any minute down in Western Pennsylvania. Golden age tour American steel victory lap. Natalie, over to you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you so much, Mike and Brian and Ben, what an all star panel. I think Ben Berkhweim is going to remain with us throughout probably the pregame, the speech and hopefully he'll give us some post game analysis to Today is Of course Friday, May 30th in the year of our Lord 2025. If we want to bring the show in, let's bring the show in. We got some guests that we will, like I said, use in our pregame up to President Trump's, I'm sure. Wonderful speech.
Mike
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
Rich Stern
It's going to happen.
Stephen K. Bannon
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA media. I wish in my soul I w.
Mike
That any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War room, here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Stephen K. Bannon
Welcome to the war room. It's Natalie Winters Hosting today, Friday, May 30th in the year of our Lord 2024 5, we're giving you some pre Trump speech coverage. He is out in Pennsylvania continuing, I think a wonderful tour, celebrating, appreciating and hopefully incentivizing more Americans to get involved in steel, obviously a critical industry that like we were talking about before, the Chinese have really outpaced us now for decades. There's a graph I think the studio should have if we want to put on screen, just to sort of set the stage for what will be President Trump's steam speech. Before we get to Rich Stern of Heritage, who's going to give us the latest on all things. There you go. You see that? Absolutely wild. On all things tariffs, trade, the great numbers that we saw President Trump play in the Oval Office today during his press conference with Elon Musk. I just wanted to set the stage. Obviously, we've seen some evolving decisions coming from the bench, the very radical bench about all things tariffs, the constitutionality of what the Trump administration and people like Peter Navarro have done, particularly when it comes to China. There's been a lot of reporting coming out that the chief judge, an individual by the name of Mark Barnett, basically bypassed a lot of the standard protocol in terms of judge selection to set it up so that the three judges who were tasked with adjudicating all of the cases pertaining to President Trump's tariffs had a long, long track record, a cv, a resume, basically excl of anti Trump decisions anytime they bumped up against him. Which I guess fair points, probably most judges, not just in D.C. but across this country. But I think it's just important to make one key point. The timing of all of this is so critical, and not just because of what is going on here in the United States when it comes to our economic warfare with China, but more importantly with what's going on abroad. And I'm not just talking about what's been transpiring in the South China Sea and how China's really been ramping up some of their alternative weapons strategies like we've been talking about here in the war for a while. But right now, the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, is overseas in Singapore for the annual dialogue, the Shangri La, where they're meeting with, you know, a dozen plus countries a day, having their bilats, their bilateral meetings, basically all tasked with focusing on American defense in the context of Asia, and most importantly, in the context of combating the Chinese Communist Party. So it's quite interesting, I think, that you see these judges choosing to get involved on what is probably the most intense form of economic warfare that we have ever waged against the Chinese Communist Party in essentially the same timeframe. Right. Plus or minus a few hours, when the Department of Defense is engaging in arguably the most critical, I would say, juncture, of waging actual war, kinetic or otherwise, against the Chinese Communist Party and a bunch of radical left wing or establishment Republican judges are trying to send a signal saying that the United States is not serious about actually taking on the threat that is the Chinese Communist Party. Right. And I think when you broaden this out, obviously the paradigm that we've been seeing, the Alien Enemies act, the idea of deporting illegal aliens under the idea that it was an invasion, using powers that are only, you know, I guess, leveraged by the president, should it have been viewed as an invasion? I think you can broaden that out to these tariffs too. Right. If you believe that the PRC is at war with us, which we certainly do here in the war room, perhaps it's not kinetic yet. Right. It might just be economic warfare then in the same way, these tariffs are a form of, I would say maybe ammo, but maybe armor is a better metaphor to compare it to. So I think you're actually seeing an escalation, not just of these judges adjudicating policy from the bench and trying to usurp President Trump's presidential authorities. Imagine that. But they are now essentially acting as commander in chief. So that's why we always say we're not hurtling towards a constitutional crisis, we are actively in one. And of course, you're already starting to see the judges get involved with the foreign students, particularly the Chinese visas over at Harvard, saying that you can't do that. It's, you know, who knows, racist. I'm sure that's probably somewhere in the actual textual documents that they're going to be apoplectic. Sorry, no. We should be deporting all of these people. We should not be educating the next generation of enemy combatants, kinetic information, economic or otherwise. And you can suck on that. Silicon Valley and all of you tech bros who what are employing, I think 70% of all your workers are foreign born. Yeah, that doesn't sound very America first to me. So if you're going to wear the MAGA hat, maybe, I don't know, try to aim to hire. Hey, I'll take 50, should be 100. But you know, anyways, I digress on all of that. I think we have Rich Stern, who I'm sure probably has some thoughts on what I was talking about. Rich, I wanted to bring you on just to sort of give us an update on all things tariffs, but also just the wonderful numbers. I'm sure you saw President Trump played him in the Oval Office. They were first a war room cold open, might I add. But if you can just give us your thoughts.
Ben Berkwom
Oh, absolutely. Look, I think he hit the nail on the head as always, you know. And again, what Trump is doing here is actually being the negotiator in chief that we all know. He's got this deal together. We've got Nippon Steel bringing Japanese money to invest in America for the first time. We're all used to the opposite as being what's happening. And so we're looking at a deal here that, you're right, is going to expand steel manufacturing in America, expand American jobs, pay American workers better and return, start the down payment, if you will, on returning America to being the manufacturing hub of the planet. And so this is just one of those many things. We got four more years left of this, of course. Right.
Stephen K. Bannon
And just walk us through. I know they have the stay until June 9, but how do you think this resolves? Do you think that the tariff case will be the one that sort of forces this constitutional crisis into the forefront? Do you think that that's where they have sort of the best arguments on their side? Or is it more on the immigration stuff? Where do you think they should be picking these fights?
Ben Berkwom
So the truth be told, and actually the ME center here at Heritage already published an article earlier today kind of breaking down all of the details of all of this. And look, I think you're right that in some respects we're already in that constitutional crisis. Look, you know, we can go through the four disastrous years of Biden where court judges and bureaucrats were just handing out favors like candy to their friends, were using the courts literally to go after churches and conservatives. So I'd say, look, we've been in that crisis for a while. To give you a few details on these cases, though, you know, look, I will tell you this, if, if you're kind of reading the plain text of the letter of the law, the precedent on it, IPA wasn't the most robust route for the president to go down to do the tariffs. Now, what we published actually out of Heritage is the president's probably still on very firm grounding on the fentanyl related tariffs. So these are the tariffs on Canada and Mexico and China. And we believe that the court probably ruled an error on that one. But we'll see as things go forward. And I should point out the the case that was before the court on international trade and the court that was before the the D.C. district court are actually ruling on two completely different non overlapping issues. The the first one, the International Trade Court ruled on just the specific tariff emergencies. The latter one, the district court rules on whether iea, the statute, the president's using can be used for tariffs at all. So we'll see as these cases unfold. But, you know, the last I'll say right now about it is the president's got these three other concrete tariff authorities. Really, he should use those to enact tariff policy, frankly, to give himself more protection against these radical judges you're talking about.
Stephen K. Bannon
We've got a few minutes before I got to jump to break. I'll hold you if I can. Obviously, the big press conference today with Elon, the, you know, farewell. That wasn't a farewell ceremony. I'm curious your thoughts. He spoke obviously of the currently, what is it, $160 billion identified in waste, fraud and abuse with short term was projected to skyrocket, I think above 200 billion. And then they talked about hopefully attaining at some point, time unknown, $1 trillion in waste, fraud and abuse. Kind of not blaming it, but pawning it off on the idea that it was the courts that was holding some of this up. I'm just curious your thoughts on these kind of speculative numbers if you think that we could actually approach a figure like that.
Ben Berkwom
I think for sure we could. Look, the government bureaucrats own numbers, and look, you and I don't trust them at all. But even the government bureaucrats numbers from before President Trump was elected still indicated that there's probably four, maybe even $500 billion a year of at least fraud that goes out of the government, let alone some of these other abuses and waste and all of that. So the math is there, the wasted dollars there again, dollars stolen from hardworking Americans and American businessmen as well. So the question is, what can we get at? And look, I think the thing that Doge has done that's been unprecedented is they could cut some of that money, but mostly they could shine a spotlight from inside the bulwark of the swamp on all of the structures of all of the grift and the corruption. And that's the information that no one had. We might have known some of these were there, but we couldn't tell you where the waste was, where the fraud was. Doge has put a spotlight on that. Doge is going to continue to write and make that material public to Congress. But at the end of the day, you know, the Deep state's been doing this for decades. They've twisted Congress into defending their position. At the end of the day, we need Congress to have a backbone. It is Congress that needs to codify these things that Doge has uncovered and put on the table for them. So we need to lend them a backbone as much as possible.
Stephen K. Bannon
I think the only people capable of giving them a backbone is this audience as they have done time and time again. Rich, if you can just hang with us through the break War and posse. Hang with us. We've got a pack show. Obviously President Trump is going to be speaking I believe at around 5:30. In the meantime, I think for everything we've been talking about. So I've got of course be checking out birchgold.com Bannon texting Bannon to 989-898 read the latest installment. It's no longer the End of the Dollar Empire. That one is the title I always like to go with. I got to get the new one. Or read the End of the Dollar Empire again. It's a great read. Will be right back. Richard Stern, Much more after this short break.
Jessica Vaughn
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Jane Zirkel
To get.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Welcome back to the War Room. We are awaiting President Trump I hear he is in the building. So we are getting quite close. We're going to hit Ben Berkwom just in a second. But Rich, before I let you go, I just have one last question because obviously you're seeing the media's apoplex. Oh, Doge is dead, you know, oh, they're not going to be able to cut waste, fraud and abuse. I don't necessarily think that Doge is something novel. I think it's sort of the second iteration, frankly, of what, you know, Bannonism created. Right. Which is the idea of deconstructing the administrative state. Perhaps it's the kinetic warfare element of it. But I'm just curious your thoughts sort of, you know, comparing contrasting the first term of President Trump to the second term. How useful if you think it has been Doge was or just sort of maybe a report card, an overall assessment.
Ben Berkwom
So I think Doge certainly, and I think like Trump come in his first time and a lot of people around him, these are people that were outsiders, which is good. They weren't swamp creatures. But you know, the trade off is it means that they didn't know where all the bodies were buried. They didn't know exactly who the trust, they didn't know exactly what they could push on. You know, we had Biden bureaucrats have been doing this for decades who in the two months leading out the door, you know, set landmines back for the troops coming in. Right. To sabotage Doge's effort. And we should hunt down those bureaucrats, frankly, and undo those things. But, you know, that's part of what the deep state does. So look, what I would say is I think Doge has got B plus, maybe even an A minus, because what they've done here, and I agree with you that it's yet the next iteration of what's been going on before. But I think it's so important to recognize that what's unprecedented is having a president who wants to go after the deep state. Look, we are talking about bureaucrats who've been funneling tens of billions of dollars to terrorists, to people that murder Americans overseas, that murder Americans here, that fuel left wing activities, that fund abortions and transgender. You and I could talk for an hour about that list. And we've had reports and commissions and whatever. Doge is the first serious concrete attempt at actually hunting these things down, making them public, making it so that Congress is a target to go after, to actually defund these things. And so while that's the beginning, it's a real beginning. And that is the thing that is truly spectacular and unprecedented.
Stephen K. Bannon
Rich, I've only got two fact checks. One, we could probably talk for a thousand hours about all of that. And I don't think it's a want to go after the deep state. It is most certainly a need. But other than that, I totally agree with you. And as always, thank you so much for joining us. Before we have you back on. In the meantime, if people want to follow you, where can they go to do all that? Read, read the reports, read all of it.
Ben Berkwom
Well, I will concede both your fact checks and it's always a pleasure. Thank you for having me on. You can find me at richjstern on Twitter. You can of course, go to our heritage.org website, find the things I write and that of all my colleagues and the entire team here as well. So thank you again for having me on, as always.
Stephen K. Bannon
Of course. Thank you, sir. I think we are going to bring Ben Berkhweim in, who, of course, I mean, I'm used to seeing you live on the scene at the southern border, though I guess there's not as much activity going on there. We swapped out the illegals for border patrol agents, which is a much needed upgrade. But tell us about where you are. Tee up the speech. Give us sort of, I'll use a word that's probably never been used on Warren before. Give us a, a vibe check of what's going on in the room.
Brian Glenn
Well, I will be back out with ice very soon, so stay tuned for that to the posse and war room audience. I'll be riding on the operations. But today we got a special invite here to Pennsylvania, just outside of Pittsburgh. We're at US Steel. This is one of their three major facilities here in Mon Valley, just outside of Pittsburgh. This is the Irvin plant. Over a million square feet, feet of covered space here. Massive, massive facility. President Trump's going to be speaking here in just a minute to announce, really, you can see it behind me, the golden age in America. And you see all the folks that are sitting here in their orange vests. These are all American steelworkers, Natalie, the backbone of America, blue collar America. The men and women who built this country, who the Democrats in the left and the chambers of commerce sold out for the last 60 years. And now you have President Trump coming back in saying, we're going to put those workers first again. We're going to put America first again. And the America first agenda is the agenda that's going to save this country. And so that's what we're here for. Looking forward to hearing about this deal with Nippon Steel. It's going to be coming very soon.
Stephen K. Bannon
And they're playing Pitbull. I guess that's a testament to the real masculinity. I know we were talking about, about this before. Democrats are busy spending, what, $20 million to understand what it means to be a man. I would suggest mandatory viewing the speech tonight. The people in the crowd, the types of people who work in critical industries like steel. I'm inclined to think of the coal miners, too. Ben, hang there. I'm sure we'll come back to you. Maybe we'll hit you before President Trump starts speaking. But speaking of immigration, I've got someone, Jessica Vaughn from the center for Immigration Studies, who I would love to bring on. We have some good news coming out of the activist judge brigade for once, and that is that President Trump is being allowed to, I think, overturn the sort of faux legal status of hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens. Migrants. Refugees, take your pick. I don't know. They're all euphemisms to me. But, Jessica, if you can walk us through this decision today, please.
Unknown
Yes, this was a big win. I thought it was a pretty obvious decision. The Supreme Court ruled 7 to 2 to let President Trump's action to cancel the improper parole status that Joe Biden was giving out. That was the basis of the catch and release policies at the border. Now he can proceed with that. There were two judges dissenting, Ketanji, Brown, Jackson and Sotomayor lamented the devastating consequences that would face our country if President Trump were allowed to revoke these protections from deportations. But not a word from them or acknowledgement of the devastating consequences these parolees have wreaked on American communities, whether it's trend and their crimes or attacks on people in shelters or just the cost of sustaining this completely illegal parole problem. It made no sense that one president could not undo an executive action of a prior one, especially one that was illegal. So this is really good news.
Stephen K. Bannon
I'm curious. It seems like the left is getting intensely, almost a sort of an, I would say escalatory rate, just apoplectic over what is going on, particularly on the immigration and deportation front.
Jessica Vaughn
Right.
Stephen K. Bannon
You see him breaking into the ICE facilities. The protesters, they're getting very agitated about it. And it seems like it's because the court doesn't always have their back. Right. The decision that you were just talking about. Right. They feel the need to go. And I think, Jessica, we're going to have to be back because I think President Trump is coming out, so I think we're going to have to toss to him or, you know, we're just going to keep the shot. So, real quick, just give us some of these other cases that are kind of in limbo, working their way through the court. Do you think we're going to see similar decisions that will be positive for the Trump administration, or do you think they're going to sort of hamstring some of their decisions on the immigration front?
Unknown
I think for the most part, these are going to be positive for immigration enforcement and the president's authority. And we have to remember to see it in that light, that this is all an effort to restore presidential authority over foreign affairs and immigration policy, because there's no other way this can work for our country unless he gets that authority back. And it was so abused under Biden to huge disastrous consequences for us. So we need this to happen. I think it will, for the most part.
Stephen K. Bannon
I'm curious, too, in terms of the legal immigration front, everything that's been going on with the H1B visas, a lot of the foreign student stuff, do you see any, you know, positive movement on that, or do you think that 120,000 number that I know our audience is very upset over, do you think that that's sort of set in stone?
Unknown
No, I think we are almost certainly going to see action against the abuse of not only guest worker programs, but also this absurd OPT program that has allowed, like 300,000 people, former students, to take jobs in the United States at a discounted rate. I think all of these programs are going to be reviewed. I think eventually Congress is going to have to step in as well. But we're going to also start to see the employers who discriminate against Americans openly be the subject of investigations from the Department of Justice. And that's a huge win for American workers because people were ignoring them for so many years before now.
Stephen K. Bannon
Jessica, if people want to stay up to date with everything you guys are working on over at cis, I love your blog. I love the articles you put out. They're very dense, but. But they're full of research that no one else wants to do. Where can people go to stay up to date with your work and everything you guys are doing?
Unknown
Everything we do is@cis.org including our sanctuary map, which has been updated today and is similar to the DHS map that came out today. And I'm on Twitter at Jessica voice.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you, ma' am, for joining us. We'll have you back on soon, hopefully to break More good immigration news.
Unknown
I hope so.
Stephen K. Bannon
Again, I even think the term immigration is too cutesy. Just like Steve always says deep state is because it's a mass invasion of this country. It's effectively kinetic warfare. I would also add, it's quite interesting, as you guys know, it was buried in a very cool Politico piece today, I believe they called it. Yet another win for the Bannon wing of the Republican Party. Though I think Steve would probably reject that framing. He does not identify as a conservative or Republican. He identifies as a populist nationalist, as I'm sure you do too. But they were talking about, buried in the piece how 70%, 70% of all hires for Silicon Valley based tech fund firms are foreign born. And this was not per government data. And we'll get to the buried lead in a second. But this was based off of a recent study, I guess one of the most recent ones that they had compiled just through local or whatever accessible data they had. But that's the real kicker, right? For a government that loves data and complex systems and they always like to have their fact check resources available. They don't choose to gather the data on the foreign worker programs from just a, you know, at face value level, right? The numbers, the visa caps, which doesn't even include the overstayers or the wife's or the illegals or the chain migration. All that stuff aside, even just the actual stated numbers, right? They don't want to gather those numbers because they don't want us to be informed and understand the scope and magnitude of what these, you know, guest worker programs, which is code for the great replacement theory, replacing you not just as an American citizen, but as an American worker. It's absolutely asinine.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Welcome back to the war room where we are awaiting President Donald J. Trump speaking in Pennsylvania. I think as we speak he's getting a tour with some steelworkers I was lucky enough to interview, I think some coal miners about a month ago at the White House. Different things but still real masculinity that I guess the democrats are wasting $20 million to understand. I guess if you want to understand all things economy, gold too, you got to be checking out birchgold.com Bannon get the latest installment of the wonderful books that Steve writes with the team. Philip Patrick, give him a call. They love to talk to you. I've heard you guys love to talk to them as well. I think we got Brian Glenn. Like I said, we're also waiting for President Trump. But, but we've got Jane Zirkel, who wanted to come on. I wanted to have her on with the tragic passing of a very dear friend of the show, the community, really, I think the country writ large. And that is none other than Bernie Kerik. Jane, I know you knew him very well. You had the honor of working closely with him, I think through your time with Mayor Rudy Giuliani. You also have a great piece up on WarWom.org, i don't know if we'll have time to get to that, but maybe you can give us a little tease. But I just would like to give you a few minutes just to tell the audience about what a wonderful man, the one and only Bernie Kerik was.
Jane Zirkel
Yeah. So Bernie Kerik, America's police commissioner, he was the NYPD police commissioner during 9 11. And when I was working for Rudy, I had the honor of attending the 911 ceremony back in 2020. And obviously with COVID New York City city, it was shut down and there was debates over whether the lights would shine, whether the names would be read by family members. But the Tunnel to Towers foundation stepped in and made sure that those lights did shine and made sure that the family members were able to read the names of their loved ones. And Bernie Kerik and Mayor Giuliani were in attendance that day. It was a beautiful, solemn day, as always. And it was there that I learned about the Tunnel to Towers foundation that was created in honor of FDNY Stephen Siller, who was off duty during 9 11. But when he saw what was going on, he strapped his gear on, ran through the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel and into the World Trade center where he ultimately lost his life attempting to save others. So today the Tunnel to Towers foundation works to provide mortgage free homes to gold star and first respond families and smart homes to catastrophically injured veterans and first responders. And for the past several years, I have run in the Tunnel TO Towers annual 5K that's held in New York City to retrace the steps of firefighter Steven Siller. It is an amazing event for anyone who wants to make the commitment to never forget who loves this country, who loves New York City. It's, it's simply just beautiful and awe inspiring. And this year, War Room thought it would be a really great idea to honor Bernie Kerik in running in honor of him. So right now I don't know if Denver can display that link that I sent to Cameron, but we have a fundraising page set up at the Tunnel to Towers site. So you can support the Tunnel to Towers mission. You can sign up for the run. You can run alongside myself and other War Room Posse members as well. We join in the commitment to never forget and honor Bernie Kerik.
Stephen K. Bannon
I was honored to, I think, go to their annual gala in New York with Raheem, a man of the gala scene, I think last year or two years ago. And it's really a wonderful organization. Jane, I'll have you plug that one more time before you go. But just give the audience a little teaser since I think President Trump is getting a nice long extension, extended tour as I'm sure he wants all the details. You have a new op ed up on warm.org real quick. Give us the latest.
Jane Zirkel
It's time to take Doge to the mass incarceration epidemic that is plaguing this country. President Trump this week has issued a slew of pardons and with the newly appointed pardons are Alice Johnson. It is, it's ramping up and it's time to see a lot more action in criminal justice arena. What I call for in this piece is mass pardons for non violent drug offenses. Currently in federal prisons, 45% of inmates are in there for nonviolent drug offenses. And so this is a huge burden on the American taxpayer. It costs on average 30 to 60 thousand dollars per year to house these inmates. So if there were to be around 100,000 pardons for nonviolent drug off offenders, you would save the American taxpayer around 3 to 6 billion dollars per year.
Stephen K. Bannon
Quite, quite the proposal. I'm curious, why do you think letting more though they mean nonviolent still criminals out on the streets as opposed to reforming the criminal justice system from within? Why do you think that's something that is particularly in Doge's Lane?
Jane Zirkel
Well, it was interesting. Savannah Chrisley put out a statement on X that said her pardon, the pardon for her parents that she worked really tirelessly for, was not a get out of jail free card, but rather a get out of a rigged system card. And since the 1970s, when the war on drugs started, incarceration has just simply skyrocketed. In 1970, America only incarcerated around 200,000 individuals. Now we incarcerate over 2 million individuals with nearly 4 million on probation and parole. So we do have a mass incarceration epidemic and it's time to take out some of the rotten corruption from our prisons by letting people out who have proven to be rehabilitated or, you know, can live a life outside of prison walls.
Stephen K. Bannon
Look, if it were up to me, I'd probably send more people to see. But I digress, Jane, in the meantime, one more time hit us with where people can go to help honor Bernie Carrick's memory at the Tunnel to Towers run. That's very brave of you to do that. And if people want to follow you, read the piece where they can go to do all that, you can go.
Jane Zirkel
To t2t.org and you can follow me, Ayne Zirkel on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube and getter.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you ma' am for joining us. We will certainly have you back on soon.
Jane Zirkel
Thank you.
Stephen K. Bannon
I think we have Brian Glenn and Ben Berkhom. It's a RAB double header. Honored to be honest with you. We're bring them on together. Ben, I think President Trump is about to speak. And Brian, I'm not even sure if you're on the ground there. If you are, I'd love to get your thoughts sort of pre gaming the speech.
Natalie Winters
Can you hear me okay, Natalie?
Stephen K. Bannon
Now I can. Yes.
Natalie Winters
Wonderful, wonderful. Well, thanks for having me on. I'm outside the swamp, unlike you. I know you're right middle of D.C. ben, you're there in Pennsylvania, but yeah, but I'm certainly enjoying watching the coverage as we have President Trump back in that very key state of Pennsylvania and celebrate the fact, Natalie, that manufacturing is staying right here in the US where it belongs. And the people of Pennsylvania, big part of their economy, a big part of the campaign agenda, bringing manufacturing back, keeping those jobs. And today is a celebration of that.
Stephen K. Bannon
And Ben, I'm curious, we're told by the media that Americans overwhelmingly don't support these tariffs, but it seems like there, it looks like there you go, right on cue. President Trump is walking out. Denver. You let me know when you want me to shut up. I'm sure the audience just wants to watch a President Trump. I don't blame them. Thank you, Brian for joining us. And Ben, we will hitch you after he speaks. That is of course President Trump walking out on stage in Pennsylvania speaking to a bunch of steel workers and hardcore MAGA devotees. We will continue warm after he is done speaking with some post game analysis. So don't go anywhere.
Jessica Vaughn
Where there's pride in every American heart. And it's time we stand and say that I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free. And I won't forget the men who died who gave that life to me. And I gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today. Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land. God bless the usa. And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free and I won't forget the men who died who gave that night to me Can I gladly stand up sit next to you and defend her still today? Cause there ain't no doubt I love this.
Ben Berkwom
This.
Rich Stern
Thank you very much. What a group of people. We love this group. You voted for me. They never had a chance in Pennsylvania. They never even had a chance. But I'm thrilled to be back in this beautiful commonwealth at the legendary Mon Valley Works, Irvin plant, Irvine plant, with the proud Pennsylvania Patriots, who are the heart and soul of U.S. steel. Thank you very much. That's great. Oh, you're going to be happy. You're going to be happy. There's a lot of money coming your way. It's a lot of money. You're going to say, please, sir, we don't want this kind of success. It's too much, sir, we can't take. Please, we beg you. We don't want this much success. But we do, really, don't we? We're going to be so successful. You have just. You have just started. You're going to watch. We're here today to celebrate a blockbuster agreement that will ensure this storied American company stays an American company. You're going to stay an American company. You know that, right? But we're going to have a great partner. We're going to have a great partner. And I have to tell you, Japan has been a tremendous friend of mine during my years as president. And then we had a little hiatus. We had a rigdelegal, but then we won. We said, let's make it too big to rig, and made it too big to rig. And this is a much more powerful term than we could have ever had the other way. So a lot of things. God was looking down on us all for a lot of reasons, including right there, a lot of reasons. We were. We were blessed. And you're going to be blessed. You're going to see that it will keep its headquarters in the great city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. You where it belongs. For generations, the name United States Steel was synonymous with greatness. And now it will again be synonymous with greatness. That's what it's going to be. The best and strongest steel on earth will forever be made in America and made in Pennsylvania. And I want to thank a man that I saw right at the beginning of this whole thing, during my first term, as we call it, US Steel President Dave Barrett. Dave, thank you very much. Wherever you May be. Wherever you may be. Thank you, Dave. And he came to the White House and he said, sir, we're in trouble. We need help. He was put there to save the company, right? I remember it so well. Like yesterday he was put there, they hired him to save the company. And he came up and he said, we need help, sir. He said, what can we do? Because all the steel companies were going south. They were all in trouble. He said, if you could get tariffs, sir, I'd save this company. And I thought about it, I studied it up real quick. It took me about two minutes. And I said, dave, I think we're going to make you very happy. And we did make you happy, didn't we? We saved the company. We put 25% tariffs on your, on your company. So we had protection. We were protected from outside horrible influence, including dumping where they were dumping steel all over the United States. And we saved it. It was a great honor. And Dave was, was really the first one that brought it to my attention and I appreciate it. Dave, you did a good job. You did a good job. He more than saved the company. He made the company great. This will be a great company in a very short period of time. Also the vice chairman of Nippon Steel.
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Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room – Episode 4525: Trump Victory In Immigration Courts; Speech Pregame
Release Date: May 30, 2025
Host/Author: WarRoom.org
Title: Bannon's War Room
Description: WAR ROOM: Pandemic is the most comprehensive program delivering up-to-the-minute news. Stephen K. Bannon brings together medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and frontline workers to provide insider insights on the latest developments.
[00:00 – 00:56]
The episode opens with Natalie Winters reflecting on a personal interaction with Elon Musk, juxtaposed with a recent moment where President Trump fired back at a reporter regarding the New York Times. This sets the stage for the day's coverage, emphasizing strong leadership and resilience against media scrutiny.
[00:30 – 00:56]
Mike introduces the episode, highlighting a new energy in America's political landscape and teasing the upcoming coverage of President Trump's speech in Western Pennsylvania—a pivotal moment in his "Golden Age Tour" focusing on American steel and manufacturing.
[00:56 – 19:28]
Stephen K. Bannon moderates the discussion, with guest Ben Berkwom providing insights into President Trump's ongoing tour aimed at revitalizing the American steel industry. Bannon emphasizes the significance of Trump’s presence in Pennsylvania, a state integral to America's manufacturing sector.
Key Highlights:
Economic Revitalization: Trump’s speech is anticipated to announce a major deal with Nippon Steel, marking the first Japanese investment in American steel manufacturing. This partnership aims to expand job opportunities, enhance wages for American workers, and restore the U.S. as the world’s manufacturing hub.
Protectionism and Tariffs: Bannon discusses the strategic implementation of tariffs to protect domestic industries from foreign competition, particularly highlighting the 25% tariffs imposed to safeguard U.S. Steel from international dumping practices.
Notable Quote:
Ben Berkwom [07:26]: "We're looking at a deal here that is going to expand steel manufacturing in America, expand American jobs, pay American workers better and return America to being the manufacturing hub of the planet."
[01:24 – 10:10]
The conversation shifts to the broader economic strategies against China. Bannon critiques the recent judicial interventions that challenge President Trump's tariff policies, suggesting that these moves by radical judges undermine the administration's economic warfare efforts against the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
Key Points:
Judicial Overreach: Bannon criticizes Judge Mark Barnett for allegedly bypassing standard protocols and appointing judges with anti-Trump records to adjudicate tariff cases, thereby hindering effective economic strategies against China.
Economic vs. Kinetic Warfare: He draws parallels between economic measures like tariffs and traditional forms of warfare, arguing that tariffs serve as non-kinetic ammunition in the battle against China's economic aggression.
Notable Quote:
Stephen K. Bannon [05:00]: "If you believe that the PRC is at war with us, perhaps it's not kinetic yet. It might just be economic warfare then."
[10:10 – 17:12]
Bannon and Berkwom discuss the pervasive issue of government waste, fraud, and abuse. They highlight the efforts of Doge (likely a reference to a watchdog initiative) in uncovering and combating financial malfeasance within federal institutions.
Key Points:
Magnitude of Fraud: Berkwom cites estimates of up to $500 billion annually lost to government fraud, emphasizing the urgent need for accountability and reforms.
Role of Congress: The dialogue underscores the necessity for Congress to take decisive action in codifying measures that curb waste and corruption, building on the groundwork laid by initiatives like Doge.
Notable Quote:
Ben Berkwom [10:52]: "We need Congress to have a backbone. It is Congress that needs to codify these things that Doge has uncovered and put on the table for them."
[20:22 – 24:33]
The episode delves into a significant Supreme Court decision allowing President Trump to revoke the parole status previously granted by President Biden to hundreds of thousands of migrants. Jessica Vaughn from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) provides an analysis of this ruling and its implications.
Key Points:
Supreme Court Ruling: The Court ruled 7-2 in favor of Trump's action to cancel Biden's parole policies, signaling a shift towards stricter immigration enforcement.
Impact on Illegal Immigration: This decision is portrayed as a victory for immigration control, aiming to reduce illegal entry and enhance national security by preventing non-citizens from exploiting the system.
Future Legal Actions: Vaughn anticipates further positive rulings that will bolster Trump's authority over immigration policies, including challenges to visa abuses and the OPT program.
Notable Quote:
Jessica Vaughn [20:22]: "The Supreme Court ruled 7 to 2 to let President Trump's action to cancel the improper parole status... This is really good news."
[29:36 – 35:59]
The podcast transitions to a heartfelt segment honoring the late Bernie Kerik, former NYPD Commissioner, and his contributions. Jane Zirkel shares personal anecdotes and the significance of the Tunnel to Towers Foundation in supporting first responders and their families.
Key Points:
Legacy of Bernie Kerik: Kerik is celebrated for his leadership during the 9/11 attacks and his ongoing commitment to supporting first responders through the Tunnel to Towers Foundation.
Tunnel to Towers Run: Jane encourages listeners to participate in or support the annual 5K run, emphasizing its role in honoring fallen heroes and providing for families of those who sacrificed their lives.
Notable Quote:
Jane Zirkel [30:57]: "Today the Tunnel to Towers foundation works to provide mortgage-free homes to Gold Star and first responder families and smart homes to catastrophically injured veterans and first responders."
[36:06 – 43:32]
As President Trump begins his speech in Pennsylvania, Bannon and the panel offer final thoughts. They express optimism about the economic agreements discussed and reaffirm their commitment to the America First agenda. The episode concludes with anticipation of Trump's post-speech analysis and further discussions on policy impacts.
Notable Quote:
Stephen K. Bannon [37:12]: "We're going to put those workers first again. We're going to put America first again. And the America first agenda is the agenda that's going to save this country."
Episode 4525 of Bannon's War Room provides a comprehensive analysis of President Trump's recent victories in immigration courts and his ongoing efforts to revive the American steel industry. Through in-depth discussions on economic policies, judicial challenges, and immigration reforms, the episode underscores a strong America First ideology poised to reshape key sectors and national policies. Additionally, the heartfelt homage to Bernie Kerik highlights the podcast's commitment to honoring national heroes and supporting critical community initiatives.
Notable Moment:
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