
Episode 4527: The War With The CCP Cont. ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Spencer Morrison
And where do people like that go.
Steve Bannon
To share the big lie?
Spencer Morrison
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Steve Bannon
I w that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
Steve Bannon
The 31st of May in the year of our Lord 2025. Welcome back to the War Room, second hour of our morning show. We are trying to put in perspective right now the Chinese Communist Party and President Trump kind of the unrestricted warfare. We keep saying that they, that the Chinese Communist Party has been at a people's war with us since May of 2019 when they declared it. We think the American people starting to wake up to that. We know President Trump's awakened to it. That's where this fierce, fierce, fierce fight on many different fronts. Spencer Morrison is the author of Reshoring, one of the smartest guys I've ever met about trade and tariffs. There's been a firestorm over this week, but I want to go back to the centrality of this whole embargo and the whole trade deal. You know, Scott Besson kind of dropped a bomb. I felt it was coming. He said, hey, the Chinese let us know there's no real new meeting scheduled and they're kind of slowing things down. I directly equate that to what happened in Moscow. But Spencer, from your perspective, because you know the details here, get us up to speed on where we are because this is, this is the deal that everything revolves around where we are right now and where do you think this thing's going?
Spencer Morrison
Steve, thanks for having me on the program. I love coming on War Room. You guys got the best people and we give you the best information. So right now, the tariffs negotiations, they're paused. They're paused for 90 days. The effective tariff rate right now is about 51%. That includes your 20% fentanyl base, fentanyl rate, the 10% base rate on top of that. And then of course, there's tariffs on aluminum, on steel, on automobile parts, there's de minimis tariffs which are higher as well, so your effective tariff rate right now is about 50%. So it's lower than it was when the negotiations started. But it's just about where it needs to be. I'd like to see it get up to just over 60%, but we're almost where we need to be. The reality is here, from my perspective, China joined the World trade organization in 2001, and in doing so, they made a ton of commitments that they would play fair, that they wouldn't steal intellectual property, that they would allow access to American companies and to Chinese markets. And they didn't do any of that. They've scrapped and nixed and weaseled out of every agreement that they've ever signed in relation to trade. Because the point of trade for China has nothing to do with fair business. They don't care about American industry. They don't care about the American people. They only care about enriching the Communist Party. And part and parcel of that is their trade policy. You have to understand that China's entire economic system is geared towards ripping off America. What they've done is they've. There's two prongs to it. The first prong is the unfair trade practices, which are netting them approximately $400 billion a year or more in the trade deficit. And then the second part of that is the intellectual property theft. China is responsible for about 80% of all global intellectual property theft. It costs America anywhere between 225 and 600 billion every single year. Every single year. So China is stealing almost a trillion dollars worth of. Worth of product every year. This is all about enriching the Communist Party of China. And President Trump is the first president to fight back against this in over 50 years.
Steve Bannon
Hang on. I want people to understand. Just want to give some math because Miles used to talk about this all the time. The trade deficit since the Chinese Communist Party has come into the World Trade Organization and most favored nation status. And remember, folks, always remember that after Tiananmen, which we're going to commemorate starting Tuesday evening at 6pm on this, on the War room follow up Wednesday morning, we do it Tuesday evening because it'll be dawn in Tiananmen Square, is that it was Scowcroft and Bush 41 that bailed out the Chinese Communist Party. They were on the ropes. How were they on the ropes? The Chinese people, particularly students throughout the country. This is one of the reasons Miles was just a young man at the time. It's one of the reasons he participated and got rolled up in the, in the arrest after the, you know, after what, 10, 20, 30,000 killings? Miles actually told me he thought it was closer to 50,000 or more throughout the country. Just wasn't Tiananmen. But he would always talk about it. It's not just they've lied about everything. The trade deficit is 20. We have 36 or $36 trillion in debt. We have $25 trillion in a trade deficit, $18 trillion directly associated with, with China and the Chinese Communist Party. But we have an intellectual property deficit, I think of 25 trillion dollars, which is the accumulation of the 300 billion to 600 billion a year. And that's just not simply from industrial espionage. That is because Wall street and the corporations have basically been kowtowed that if you want to have anything to do with mainland China, you have to put it into a joint venture. Your joint venture partner is the Chinese Communist Party. And one of the things you have to do is, is like almost a license deal to the joint venture where all your intellectual property goes in and they just steal it right there and reverse engineer it.
Spencer Morrison
This system, that's exactly what they do.
Steve Bannon
Explain this to the American people. This is what President Trump is sitting there going, we're gonna break this. We can't go on like this. Cuz the system's unsustainable financially, sir.
Spencer Morrison
Wow, Steve, it's worse than that. So those numbers on the intellectual property theft, they come from the report from the U.S. trade Commission. There's been a number of reports that have been done. The problem is, is that those joint ventures, I mean, that's all essentially done legally. So that's not even included in the IP theft that we're talking about. So the scope, the actual scope of the technological transfer to China is even higher than that. You have to understand. I mean, China was largely an agrarian society even 50 years ago. And I mean, look at what they've done. I mean, they're producing about 40 times the concrete, 12, 23 times the steel every year that we are. They've got supercomputing on par with us. They're producing most of the world's silicon computer chips. I mean, China is an industrial power that produces three times the raw output that the USA does. China's, it's a technological power. I mean, they're, they're creating, not creating, they're stealing a lot of technology and they're building upon that, right? So what China has done is they've leapfrogged about two centuries in the last 40 years. And this was done through stealing technology. And like you said, Steve, forcing American Companies with the promise of accessing these Chinese markets to go into joint ventures with Chinese companies. And, you know, what happens is the American company comes in, they bring in their technology, they bring in people to train the Chinese people on how to do these. And my great grandfather actually did this. He was an aircraft engineer, and he was one of the people that went into China and was teaching the Chinese how to build aircrafts. And, of course, what happened is China reneged on their end of the bargain. After they learned how to build the products, they didn't allow American companies to access the Chinese markets. Instead, they stonewalled them out, and they came out with copycat products. And now they're competing with Americans and European companies all throughout the world. I mean, you look at Huawei, Huawei is one of the biggest tech companies in the world in. In terms of making hardware. They make smartphones, they make tablets, they make computers, all sorts of stuff. 100% of that is based on stolen technology. I mean, they stole. They ripped off Apple, they ripped off, you know, their other Asian competitors. Everybody. It's all stolen. All stolen tech.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, we only got a couple. We got about four or five minutes. I want to make sure we. Where we stand right now in President Trump's strategy, although hindered by the courts. What do you see as the path forward and what would be your recommendations if you were sitting in the Oval on a Saturday morning talking to the President about this, sir?
Spencer Morrison
Well, I would certainly encourage a president to stand strong on tariffs. He's doing all the right things. One of the big problems here is that Congress and the courts are undermining him at every turn. We saw a couple of weeks ago, Senator Rand Paul put this to a vote. He said, the power to tax and do tariffs lies with Congress. Luckily, he was defeated. And now over the last couple of days, Wall street is engaged with significant lawfare to shut the tariffs down. So we'll see what happens there. In my view, in my view, President Trump is well within his legal authority. He's been delegated the authority by Congress to impose tariffs in response to national emergencies or in response to unfair trading practices. I think he's well within the bounds of the law. But ultimately, what we have to do is Congress has to pass a. Congress has to pass a comprehensive trade bill that raises the tariffs and makes them high so that American investors and even foreign investors can invest and build capital in America with the knowledge that their investment is going to be protected. And then on top of that, there's a whole bunch of other things that need to be done. We have to focus on vocational training for workers. We need to focus on lowering the cost of energy by, you know, allowing us to build coal plants, to invest in new oil pipelines. The cost of raw materials and rare earth minerals needs to come down, which, you know, in addition to drill, baby drill, we got a mine, baby mine. If we can do that, then we can start to fund China on a cost basis.
Steve Bannon
But we say this, it gets back to the Thucydides trap. And when I asked Graham Allison, which is you have the elites making more money than ever with America in decline in their theory and China on the rise. How do you. How does President Trump pull this off when his biggest opponent here is not even the Chinese? His biggest opponent is the lords of easy money on Wall street that paid for and shipped all the jobs over and the global corporations, which don't mind paying Lao Baijing a buck a month. It works for them. So how does Trump do it? We got two minutes here. How does Trump do it, given that his biggest problems are here domestically, Sir?
Spencer Morrison
Yeah, the big problems are domestic. I'll just push back. It's not a Thucydides trap. A Thucydides trap, in my opinion, is when two powers, you know, you have a rising power and you have another, the older power, and they're locked into combat conflict. That's inevitable because they have overlapping resource requirements. That's not the case here. America could be entirely self sufficient. We can make everything that's needed to be made in America. All of the natural resources can be procured and mined in America. There's really no reason to actually be dealing with China other than, like you said, the fact that people are making easy money on Wall street by, you know, arbitrage between the price of labor in China and America. And then, of course, the balance of payments, the trade deficit, all that money, it comes back and it's plugged into buying stocks and real estate and bonds. Right? The trade deficit creates an equal demand for American currency on their other side. So we have a trade deficit of $1.2 trillion. All that money comes back to Wall street, and these are the guys who are funding the lawfare. So what President Trump really needs to do is he needs to focus on bringing this back to the people. And the people, we have to get involved at the local level and push for America first candidates to actually start getting these things through Congress. Because the ultimate question is not whether President Trump can solve this as one man, because he can't. He can't this needs to be a movement from the bottom up, grassroots.
Steve Bannon
Do you buy in the war. I was trying to do that. Do you buy my thesis that ever since Xi and Putin were like playing footsies like teenagers in Moscow on the 7th and 8th, that you've seen Moscow much more reticent to bring to a conclusion or even a ceasefire, the war in Ukraine and been very standoffish on a Russian rapprochement over and that the Chinese Communist Party has basically told Besson, eh, I don't know. You know, for somebody that had all their factories locked four weeks ago to now saying, hey, when we get back to you, we get back to you. Is that because Russia and China are more welded at the hip than ever, sir?
Spencer Morrison
Oh, I think Russia and China are certainly in bed together. I mean the trade volumes between the two nations have been growing significantly year after year after year, you know, and a big part of that is because America's trade policies have been incompetent. Right. I mean we've been driving China and Russia together, we've been wedging them together. There's really no reason to be doing that. I think what President Trump needs to do and what Congress needs to do is focus on America. We need to be investing in the American people, investing in capital and ultimately a strong self sufficient America is going to be able to project power abroad and. But the problem is we've been giving up a lot of leverage, right, Because China knows that they have leverage over America when it comes to certain products and goods. If we're importing our computers from them and if we rely on Chinese steel, that's a really big problem.
Steve Bannon
We gotta bounce. But where do people go? Social media and where they get the book?
Spencer Morrison
Yeah. So we've got a beautiful second edition of the book that's just come out. We've got a great forward by Gray Delaney in there, so I encourage everybody to pick it up. It's available on Amazon or directly from the press@kalamopress.com People can follow my work on X or on substack eelsbmorson.
Steve Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
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Steve Bannon
First goal Understand the BRICS nations. Understand the Chinese Communist Party's involvement in the BRICS nations. They're uniting the global south in an alliance and it's an economic alliance and it's tied around being anti the US dollar as the prime reserve currency. They're looking for every alternative in the world. To be blunt, we because the elites in this country have breached their fiduciary obligation like what we have in these massive deficits. There's some blame to go around, but we have to have a national conversation about being the prime reserve currency. Just can't just snap and say, oh, we're going to try something else. It would be catastrophic to the United States, also to the world economy. Understand all that by going to birchgold.com Bannon the end of the Dollar Empire. The seventh free installment. They're all free, but the seventh is the Rio reset. Understand that the Chinese Communist Party and I posit that we're not going to have huge developments. I might be surprised, but the way I say it now, not huge developments in the trade negotiation until after Rio in July 6th. I think the Chinese Communist Party is cooking up something with Lula in Brazil and Putin in the KGB in Russia and. And you just gotta. That's Brazil, Russia, India, China, India and Modi's government is on our side. South Africa not feeling it. And of course all these new countries they picked up. You must understand the dollar as the prime reserve currency and you have to understand the importance of what this BRICS nations movement is. Birchgold.com Bannon end of the dollar empire. It's all free. And you get to know the people at Birch and You get to understand why. It's not the price of gold, it's the process of how it got there. You must understand, you understand that you will go a long way for your own financial freedom. So far as I got, Roy and Ava and I do the weekly show. I do a hit on their weekly show every week. And I always say they always ask great questions. Now, Ava's questions are a little bit better than Roy's, but you know, Roy's good. Roy has tough questions. Ava's just. She's a killer. I'm kidding. I love them both. They're both great. But I got to ask you a question. Is this the way, particularly young people in China, because they're trying to push China to ultra nationalism. If, if the Chinese Communist Party was able to use the foreign devil's money on Wall street and able to use the foreign devil's greed of their globalist corporations that had no problem selling out their own people and shifting to jobs over there, obviously it came encumbered with a lot of controls and a lot of involvement of the globalist corporations and the, and Wall street and also empowered the dictatorship like nature of the Chinese Communist Party. But they were betting on the economy getting better and people's lives getting better. And they would just say, hey, the political control and the constant oversight and invasion of our privacy and lack of rights, we'll just have to live with this because the country's got to get richer. And you know, if Spencer's right and he said, hey, you could argue they went two centuries and 50 years, what's the beef? Why has new federal state got a problem with that, sir?
Forrest
First of all, all that money never benefited Chinese people. That's a lie. They create a much better life for the Chinese people. Look at China right now. The youth, the unemployed rate for the youth is more than 50%. A lot of people cannot even afford their meals every day. And their economy is based on the in slavery. That's number one. The Chinese people have much worse life after the CCP took control. That's number one. Number two, because we were just talking, Spencer, talking about all the technology stolen from the us who's stolen the technology? The ccp, the pla. Huawei is a pla. And also the Deep seq. What are they stolen technology for? They are not using this technology to improve people's life and make their life better or easier. They use that technology to surveillance the control the people. And also, most importantly, they use this technology, try to attack the US and other Western countries. Think about the technology or the weapon they built, whether it's June, whether it's the cyber attack they use and the deep seq which can wipe $1 trillion from the market overnight. They are goal. When the people doing business with you, they want to make money, that's fine, maybe they steal, okay? But when their goal is to kill you, you cannot allow that to happen. Because when they stole the technology, they stole the money, they use that money, come back to the US to infiltrate the US and control the media, control the technology, big tech company also influence all the traditional system and the political influence they had. All they want to do is try to undermine the very fundamental of this country and remove all the freedom and democracy this whole world has. I think the Americans lost the stand. As I just at the beginnings, I said so that's why we as new federal state of China, we have to warn the Chinese people. The Chinese Communist Party is the root of their suffering and their loss. And also we have to warn the whole world that the Chinese Communist Party is the root of all the problem they have. We talked about the problem in the US it looks like internal problem, whether it's congressional or the legal system. But actually if you think about it, all the warfare, all the propaganda against the maga, against the President Trump and also you, Peter Navarro, Giuliani, all those is controlled by Chinese Communist Party. So it's not internal issue. Actually is the global issue against the Chinese Communist Party who want to undermine and completely destroy the democracy and western state civilization. Because every totalitarian regime, they understand if they learn history, which they do, they understand all those regime cannot survive over 100 years. Their time is limited. If they want to survive, they have to kill the civilization and the democracy which American has, the Western country has. That's why the NFSC is so important. Your show is so important to let American people or the west country know the real threat and the real problem, the roots is the Chinese Communist Party.
Steve Bannon
Ava, you an expert? I do your show every week. You and Roy, you're an expert. I'm going to have Roy do the media, but you do the political warfare. How successful has their political warfare been? Because I would argue the Chinese Communist Party on a global basis is pretty successful. We're on the eve of, of on the day that we're commemorating, starting the commemoration of Tiananmen Square is the day the vote, you know, by the time we come on the vote in Korea may be counted. The Chinese Communist Party may have actually taken a coup at the ballot box in Korea. How successful have they been in their political warfare campaign in the United States and globally?
Ava
Thank you, Steve, for your question. That's a great question. They're extremely successful. This is why as a fellow fighter who is anti with the sole mission to taking down the ccp, I'm a little bit concerned. This is why I'm so happy that sitting here with you, because I can tell you Steve Warren show and President Trump is the most feared media and individuals in the world. In the entire world. Okay? Because Warren has influence and seeing the NFSC miles goal and you on your show and broadcast to tens of millions of people around the world, that's their biggest headache is the truth. So I'm glad that you asked the question. They're very successful because look around, other than nfse, other than War Room, there's nobody talking about anti CCP narratives. They can talk about globalist. You know, there's a lot of countries, they're anti globalist, they're anti America, they're anti Israel, anti Semitism. But there's no one voice out there that is ntccp. You have to ask yourself why talk about South Korea. Yes, Started a long time ago. Actually, there's a very scary emerging trends. We refer them as the red nations emerging. We're familiar with the red concept, right? Red scary, that dates back to McCarthy. But right now, if you look around the 193 nations around the world, okay, under the UN, there's an emerging red nation, which means the communists has already successfully established a foothold. And that foothold is so strong and it can wither the Trump's trade potential policies. For example, the number one country is Vietnam. If you're looking at trade numbers, you would know Vietnam's number. Vietnam's revenue from imports from China almost 35. And this is on the book, which is absolutely underestimated. Look at South Korea. So that's why I say what happening in South Korea today is by no means a coincidence. It is years of political warfare, infiltration, media, rule of law and judiciary. It's very important because if you look at the parliamentary election in 2020 and then 2024 and then we're coming up June 3rd at the election in South Korea, none of this are happening haphazardly. And all the infiltration, all the hidden forces of the CCP are coming at all angle and in any country there are three categories of enemies, including United States. You have to pay attention. These are the CCP infiltrated spies. This is one category. And the second category is, is those extreme leftiest okay, these are components are dangerous because these are the traders living in South Korea or United States. And the last category is those pro CCP operatives. And those pro CCP operatives, you can see a lot of them are in business. Okay, these are billionaires. These are managing big corporations. So these are particular three groups of people. Any country including United States, you have to pay attention. So look at South Korea import number. They have huge trade volumes, bilateral volumes, imports from China. If you look at 2023 numbers, it's over US$130 billion. And that's over a quarter of total South Korea imports. That's from China. And this is on the book. So that means the number is underestimated. So you know, communist system is not economic system. It's a purely hundred percent political system. And CCP understands this. So when they open the door.
Steve Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
War room, here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Steve Bannon
You're on a roll. Take a couple minutes and finish up there. Because people need to hear this and they particularly need to hear it from a voice that's not like Steve Banner. Even Miles grow one of us old guys. They need to hear it from a young fire breather. Ma' am.
Ava
So thank you Steve. I really have a lot of things wanted to share with MAGA Warren Posse and MAGA Americans Patriots. But I want to finish is you have to question that why there's no one talking about CCP badly. Why? And I'm really concerned as a person. Like there's millions of us, okay. In the United States there's at least Half million of the fellow fighters, just like me. We have put our life on the line because we have been silenced enough. And we either die in silence or we live in this most peaceful way of revolution that you and Miles go started, which is the single mission of the new federal state of China that is taking down the ccp. And we are putting everything on the line. That is why I'm so, so concerned.
Steve Bannon
When.
Ava
Trump won the second election. A lot of great policies and really countering the CCP in the right direction. But we are yet to see the most definitive blow to the ccp. And you're not there, you're not heading there and we know why. And we have a lot of insider information. And I'm just desperate wanted to share with you because that's what the CCP fears the most. So what I wanted to mention here is we are very concerned because we know what happened to Miles School. In order to know what's coming down the pipeline, I think every Warren posse needs to understand what happened in 2020 election, why Miles was away. Okay? This goes back to what's going to happen after four years if Trump again was, was, was not winning at the end. Because we know CCP's election interference not only in South Korea, but has been, has been going back all the way to 2020 election even earlier because they are really good at plotting. So one thing I want to review with you on this show is Miles School. You know the gtv, if you understand the GTV shutdown and everything, is a political hit on my school. Why? Because Myers School refused twice, not once, twice when FBI approached him, asked him to frame Trump and frame you, Mr. Bannon, because you are the top enemy of the CCP. And my own school definitively refused. And this happened the first time at the end of 2018. And the second time is early 2019. And he refused to cooperate with the FBI to put you and Trump in jail. Okay? This is why when Biden Admin come into power, they started targeting the nfsc. They used everything within their reach at any cost. And ping to the Miles School as a fraudster, painted us as criminal as rico. And think about it, what the CCP has done. Because I don't have a lot of time. But if to go into the what happened. But I can share with you this one thing. My school is the direct witness of the transnational corruption between United States and China. We're talking about the top leader Biden family. Okay? This is why his apartment has to be set on fire. Okay? And this is why the evidence that could be incriminating the highest leader of the free world are buried. And even today, my own school is still sitting in the jail. And we're fighting for our lives because we know if we are not fighting, we will be dead. And that's coming to Warren policy. That's coming to Warren, that's coming to Trump. So this is why we are worried and this is why we have. I don't think we can share all the information that we have, but I want to share one thing. I want to leave the Warren posse. Just really think about it, okay? This is internal recourse that from the inside of the CCP reviewed to us right now. Inside the ccp, people are saying Trump is very fearful of Xi Jinping. Okay? So they're spreading that rumors around within the ccp. And they are also. You also see a lot of operatives, as I mentioned, three categories of people. You really need to pay attention. You have to clean your house, otherwise they're going to come and hurt you. There's not going to be MAGA after four years. If Trump lost that election. If MAGA lost that election. So they're saying, okay, Trump is. Trump is also fearful for Xi Jinping. And they even spreading rumor about Trump might have a potential secret covert dealings with Xi Jinping. Okay, this is what they're doing right now. But look at who has amplified that. You have to pay attention. Who is amplified who is creating those rumors and targeting Trump personally? And not only Trump and his family will pay as well. And think about, he's already, you know, convicted for 34 felony charges and there is many more waiting for him. And if MAGA loses at the end, Steve, I think all of us going to prison, okay? And Miles would. So this is something I want everybody thinking about it. What you going to do? And we already know CCP has already started planning. They already start planning for the midterm. And Midton is going to be the turning point of this fight. Okay? So they plan way ahead of the game. So this is why we want American people, and especially the most informed audience on the planet Earth, which is war and policy, to get ready. We have to talk about it. We have to talk about the countermeasures. How do we protect? Because we know they're afraid of you, is because you can connect these leaders. We talk about whether it's Trump, whether it's you, whether Myers Gull or whether Rubio, you know, all those topics, Trump administration staff, they are connected with American people. You are connected with mockup Supporters. You are connected with Chinese law by Shing. That is why they are coming after us.
Steve Bannon
Let me hang on for one second, Ava, that's all of. That's amazing. I want to bring in because it goes back to the media. Why is it I pick up and Roy, this is for you. I pick up these papers every day. The Wall Street Journal, the Financial Times of London, the New York Times. These are the three most powerful papers in the world, okay? Financial Times of London, the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. You've got the Guardian, you have the Times and I have all that. But these are the three big and all I hear, like right here. I'm going to give you a perfect example. This is Friday's paper. I wanted to save it and I look right here in the front page, the perils of Trump's push to sever ties with China. It doesn't ever talk about why the Chinese Communist Party is totally corrupt and we must do this not just morally, but in order to save the nation. Every article in these papers is always tainted like this. The lead story, the perils of Trump's push to sever ties with China. And the whole thing is just a negativity about why it can't happen. While it'll be terrible for America, it's in, it's embodied in the Wall Street Journal. It's embodied in every line and paragraph of the Financial Times of London, the New York Times, the Washington Post, the LA Times, the Times, the Times of London. Why is it in the. And then you get to the broadcast news, it's always everything Trump's doing about China to actually bring jobs back and actually help the Chinese people is always looked at, oh, it's terrible for the American people. He's making prices higher. That's never going to happen. Why is that, Roy? Why is the media in the West? Not this. I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about the, you know, the People's Daily. I'm not talking about cctv. I'm not talking about state owned media properties in mainland China controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. I'm talking about supposedly the biggest, most powerful organs in the Free speech West. Sir.
Roy
Well, because there are different levels of infiltration, right? You brought a really great point. Like all these major medias and social media platforms, big techs, they're controlled oppositions, right? They're all in bed with Chinese Communist Party. That's why Eva and Forrest also mentioned about. It's so hard to find really hardcore CCP hawks like you guys Like Scott Besson, like Peter Navarro, Giuliani and yourself. And Miles where you started the war room like five years ago. And it's almost the only along with GTV like where we blow the whistle on Hunter Biden laptop and then got shut down. And then we have Getter, right? The collaboration, the combination of Getter and Warren POS is so popular and so powerful. The alliance between MAGA movement and also the NFSC members and the supporters, most importantly the supporters, the CCP insiders risking their lives and supporting us, giving us the critical pieces of intelligence we put out every single day. And that was reflected on the numbers recently. Our daily signups increased by 10 times. The reason is I'm glad you mentioned about the 35,000 Chinese students. This is caused by Chinese Communist Party because the CCP sending spies all over the place. Even Getter company like recently we found like two years ago they sent CCP operatives and spies to Getter engineering team and put backdoors and bugs. So our number now is active users is 8 million users. It should have been like 80 million users. So that's how you see how important how like people and MAGA movement is, how popular they are and how people thirst and desire the truth and information. And how like this infiltration in media, of course like the judicial system is even worse into the United States. And I'm glad also you talk about the anti Semitism in the campus, in the media actually the CCP is all behind this. But the problem is American people and also the people in this government has not been aware enough about the situation. So we want to accelerate that.
Steve Bannon
What can be done? I mean, what can be done particularly with US media right now. What is, what is your solution? To me it's yes, with getter and war room and new federal state and what you guys are putting up every time we're punching way above our weight. We clearly have people's attention because they're doing stories all the time on our anti ccp. But what would your recommendation be about the New York Times? I mean can we do a better job of exposing. Because I happen to believe there's infiltration at the highest levels. People may not even know it. Remember the People's Daily or the American version of the China Daily was given as an insert. The China Daily is 100% propaganda. It's an Americanized version of the People's Daily, the China Daily. And we get it every day here because I want to read it. But we get the subscription and it shows up. It was an insert into the Washington Post in the New York Times as a freebie. Pure propaganda. And every day it takes and twists the stories of the day for a positive outlook on the Chinese Communist Party. So when you have the Washington Post in the New York Times that are actually for years taking money from the CCP to put the People's Daily in there or the China Daily, how do you combat that? We got about a minute before we go to break.
Roy
Yeah. I think we need to bring the awareness not just to the MAGA grassroots, but also to this Trump admin to understand that the CCP is using this infiltration tactics all along and the CCP doesn't really want to have a deal with America. Like, the only way is to take down the Chinese Communist Party. And also we need to understand the urgency because, like, we only have four years or even two years if we lose the midterm. I think Xi Jinping internally has already started the preparation to double down on the information on the infiltration on the attacks on Trump's family and Trump's personally. And also yourself and also Rudy Giuliani and Peter Namarasko. Moscow is still in prison after like half a year, like after Trump took the office. So we need to have this urgency and to bring the awareness and to execution is the key, I think. And also develop war room policy and also develop Getter. I think the combination is great. We're working every day 247 to make best features to bring out the information. I think all of these are very critical.
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Ava. We're gonna be back live 6pm on Tuesday night and then 10 to noon on Wednesday for our annual commemoration of Tiananmen Square. Everything it means, the reason it's not taught to the Chinese people. Where can people go in the interim, Ma' am, to get all your content.
Ava
They can go on on Getter of course at S7G R I L but most importantly, follow us on NFSE Speaks. And I do want to say, you know the question you asked for, Roy. I do want to say three mile school is the first and foremost. But meantime I think we need also to realize the red concepts also apply to United States in all aspects, particularly in your judiciary. Otherwise Miles Guo would be free today. But he is still in the prism and Miles Guo shared with US Intel Telus that the most area that the infiltrated the most severely by the CCP are not economics, are not media or not even cyber space but is your judiciary system. This is why you have to get back to the beginning which is the Crossfire hurricane which I believe the investigation is under and you will see everything is going to link it together. That's why pay attention to what's coming in the midterm election. And I'm looking forward to coming on Warren in other episodes to share more detail with you. And please do pay attention on our June 4th broadcast with Warren Posse and Stephen Bannon. I look forward to that. Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Perfect. Eva. Thank you. Roy. Where do people go for your content?
Roy
Yeah, people can go to on Getter. I'm also working on the whole engineering team and operation of Getter and also we want to bring the best features of course the founder of new federal state of China, Steve K. Bannon and Miles Guo. Getter is the only platform they use and we put out the exclusive intelligence and information about CCP insiders provided and it's very valuable. And also, Steve, like we really care about your safety and also President Trump's safety. I think you really need to put this on top priority. And of course, Free Miles goal and take down the ccp. Thank you so much, sir.
Steve Bannon
Free Miles will take down ccp. By the way. Get her an idiot like me. I'm a technological moron and I can use it all night and all day. It's just so easy. The engineers did a great job. Forrest, we gotta bounce you. You're gonna be co hosting with me on Tuesday and on Wednesday. Where do people go in the interim to get your content? Sir, you're pretty extraordinary and your team is very extraordinary.
Forrest
Thank you so much. Thank you, Steve. I think people can find us on FSC on getter. And also I would like to see five years ago, eight years ago, we started with one voice, which is Miles GROSS Voice. And five years ago, with your voice added into the NFSC, we established NFSC. June 4th will mark our fifth anniversary. Now we are millions. We have a million supporters within the US and also within China. And I think NFSC and Mouse Core and you have done was we have exposed the CCP's evil behaviors. They are all the tactics and also we are challenged in all their narratives. I think we are building this global movement by taking down the Chinese Communist Party. I think all the American people has to realize this is a life and death situation. We have to work swiftly and boldly to taking down the Chinese Communist Party.
Steve Bannon
We are with a sense of a sense of urgency. A sense of urgency has to be urgency. One more time. Where they go on getter, where they.
Forrest
Go on social media to get you speaks NFSC tv.
Steve Bannon
Okay, perfect. Look forward to being back here, folks. On on Tuesday. We always do it as dawn breaks over Beijing because the Communist Party will not teach their children, they will not teach the nation of the horror that culminated in Tiananmen Square and culminated really when the Empress, the Goddess of Liberty, basically inspired an homage to the Statue of Liberty went up in Tiananmen Square. That's when Deng Xiaoping and that team cracked down and killed tens of thousands. Guys, thank you very much for being here. Appreciate you. Mike Lindell, your struggle session really starts on Monday. A federal trial. Talk to me about it and sell me a pillow and a sheet so you can underwrite this. Sir.
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Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room - Episode 4527: The War With The CCP Cont.
Release Date: May 31, 2025
In Episode 4527 of Bannon’s War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves deeper into the ongoing conflict between the United States and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). The episode features a robust discussion with guest Spencer Morrison, author of Reshoring, as they examine the multifaceted strategies employed by the CCP and President Trump's initiatives to counteract them. The conversation spans trade negotiations, intellectual property theft, political warfare, and the influence of the CCP within global and domestic spheres.
Stephen K. Bannon opens the discussion by framing the relationship between the US and the CCP as an "unrestricted warfare" that has been intensifying since May 2019 when the CCP declared it a people's war against the United States.
"We keep saying that the Chinese Communist Party has been at a people's war with us since May of 2019 when they declared it." [00:54]
Bannon highlights the awakening of both the American populace and President Trump to the CCP's aggressive tactics, setting the stage for a comprehensive examination of their strategies.
Spencer Morrison provides an in-depth analysis of the current state of US-China trade negotiations, emphasizing the impact of tariffs and the broader implications for the American economy.
"The effective tariff rate right now is about 51%. I'd like to see it get up to just over 60%, but we're almost where we need to be." [02:07]
Morrison criticizes China's commitment to fair trade practices, detailing the substantial trade deficits and intellectual property (IP) theft that the CCP has perpetrated against the United States.
"China is responsible for about 80% of all global intellectual property theft. It costs America anywhere between 225 and 600 billion every single year." [04:19]
He underscores the necessity for Congress to pass a comprehensive trade bill to solidify tariff policies and protect American industries from CCP exploitation.
The discussion transitions to the CCP's systematic theft of American technology and intellectual property, which Morrison argues is central to China's rapid industrial and technological advancement.
"China has leapfrogged about two centuries in the last 40 years. And this was done through stealing technology." [06:15]
Morrison shares a personal anecdote about his great-grandfather’s experience with Chinese joint ventures, illustrating how American companies have been coerced into sharing proprietary technologies that the CCP later exploits for its own benefit.
The conversation shifts to the CCP's political warfare strategies, both domestically within the US and globally. Morrison and Bannon discuss the infiltration of media and political systems by CCP operatives aimed at undermining democratic institutions.
"The major medias and social media platforms, big techs, they're controlled oppositions, right? They're all in bed with the Chinese Communist Party." [37:39]
Ava, another guest, elaborates on the CCP's success in political warfare, stating:
"They're extremely successful... their biggest headache is the truth." [23:47]
The guests highlight the CCP's influence in shaping narratives within influential Western media outlets, thereby obscuring the true extent of their manipulative tactics.
Morrison advocates for a grassroots movement to support "America First" policies, emphasizing the need for broad-based public support to counteract the CCP's influence.
"President Trump is well within his legal authority. But ultimately, what we have to do is Congress has to pass a comprehensive trade bill." [09:00]
He also outlines key policy areas that require attention, including vocational training, energy cost reduction, and the development of domestic supply chains to reduce dependency on Chinese imports.
Bannon introduces the topic of the BRICS nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) and their efforts to challenge the US dollar's status as the world's primary reserve currency. He emphasizes the CCP's role in uniting the global south in an economic alliance aimed at diminishing US economic dominance.
"Understand the dollar as the prime reserve currency and you have to understand the importance of what this BRICS nations movement is." [16:12]
Morrison acknowledges the growing economic ties between Russia and China, attributing this trend to ineffective US trade policies that inadvertently drive these two powers closer together.
Bannon criticizes major Western media outlets for their biased reporting on US-China relations, arguing that these platforms often portray President Trump's efforts to sever ties with China as detrimental to the American economy.
"Every article in these papers is always tainted... it's negativity about why it can't happen." [37:39]
Roy, another contributor, supports this view by pointing out the CCP's infiltration tactics within media organizations, which hinder objective reporting on the CCP's malpractices.
The episode concludes with a call to action, urging listeners to engage with platforms like Getter and the New Federal State of China (NFSC) to stay informed and support efforts to dismantle the CCP's influence. Bannon emphasizes the urgency of the situation, particularly with upcoming midterm elections that could significantly impact the trajectory of US-CCP relations.
"We have to work swiftly and boldly to taking down the Chinese Communist Party." [47:57]
Ava reiterates the importance of exposing CCP's infiltration in various sectors, including the judiciary, to safeguard American democracy.
"This is why we want to accelerate that." [41:21]
Steve Bannon: "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people." [00:03]
Spencer Morrison: "China's entire economic system is geared towards ripping off America." [06:12]
Ava: "They're extremely successful because... their biggest headache is the truth." [23:47]
Stephen K. Bannon: "President Trump is the first president to fight back against this in over 50 years." [04:19]
Episode 4527 of Bannon’s War Room offers a comprehensive analysis of the strategic battle between the United States and the Chinese Communist Party. Through detailed discussions on trade policies, intellectual property theft, media infiltration, and geopolitical alliances, host Stephen K. Bannon and guest Spencer Morrison elucidate the multifaceted challenges posed by the CCP. The episode serves as a call to action for listeners to engage in grassroots movements and support policies that prioritize American economic and political sovereignty.
Note: This summary excludes advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content sections to focus solely on the core discussions and insights presented during the episode.