
Episode 4528: MAGA Victorious In Poland; Maintaining Sovereignty From AI...
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Kevin Sorbo
Yeah.
NBC News Reporter
Significant developments this morning in Ukraine's efforts to hit back against Russian aggression. Ukraine launched a massive drone attack deep inside Russian territory. The New York Times calls it a coordinated operation that targeted sites from eastern Siberia to Russia's western border. A source in Ukraine's security service tells NBC News that more than 40 Russian bomber planes were targeted in an operation nearly 3,000 miles away from Ukraine. The mission, codenamed Spiderweb, is estimated to have cost Russia more than $2 billion worth of damage to its plane. 2 billion. The attack was planned over the course of the past year and a half and involved a meticulous method of first smuggling the drones deep into Russia and then disguising so they could be activated remotely. Sounds like a movie. NBC News cannot independently verify the claims made by the Ukrainian source. However, Russia's Defense Ministry confirmed the attacks.
Steve Bannon
Just stay away. Stay away. He's right there. He's throwing Mozart cocktails right there. And you, you going to jail. You don't antagonize. He's not right.
Boone Cutler
He don't do anything.
Steve Bannon
Everybody get back. Everybody get back.
Jack Posobiec
Everybody get back.
Steve Bannon
He's right there. He's on the ground right there. Who was the person that. Right here.
Ezra Cohen
This guy, right here.
Steve Bannon
This guy is the one he got.
Tulsi Gabbard
First, is that Sabri is behind bars or Solomon rather is behind bars right now on $10 million Bailey, as a court date, as you said, 1:30 the time there in Colorado. So we'll be looking forward to see what happens there. We know that there are multiple felony charges that he is booked on, including murder charges, though we have not learned from officials of any of these victims dying. So we're waiting to hear what that means for those charges as John described. And you just heard from witnesses there. It was certainly a chaotic scene as these, you know, this is weekly event that happens with this group of people. They go to support the hostages that are held in Gaza by Hamas. And this person, Solomon, according to police, showed up with his makeshift flamethrower with Molotov cocktails. Witnesses describe how he was just dousing people and trying, you know, people were running to their aid, trying to basically put out the flames with water bottles, we're told. Four women, four men injured in this, all brought to hospitals. Two were activ. Actually had to be air flighted, as John mentioned. One of those victims, a Holocaust survivor.
Political Analyst
We've now seen the president, this administration come out and say that they are very frustrated that China is not really following the commitments that it agreed to. After US and Chinese officials met in Geneva last month. Now, we did hear many of his different advisers talk about this as well. What I'm hearing also behind the scenes is that they are actively trying to set up a direct call between President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping. His advisers reiterate reiterated that this weekend. Take a listen.
Foreign Policy Expert
Well, we will see what the consequences are. I am confident that when President Trump and party Chairman Xi have a call.
Steve Bannon
That this will be ironed out.
Jack Posobiec
Donald Trump and President Xi, you know, our president understands what to do. He's going to go work it out. President Trump, we expect, is going to have a wonderful conversation about the trade.
Tulsi Gabbard
Negotiations this week with President Xi.
Foreign Policy Expert
But the bottom line is that we've.
Tulsi Gabbard
Got to be ready in case things.
Foreign Policy Expert
Don'T happen the way we if we.
Steve Bannon
Have cannons but not cannonballs, then we can't fight a war.
Political Analyst
So a few things to take note of all of that, Kate. One is that the president has been saying for months now that he believed that he could help settle this by talking to Xi Jinping, but they have been unable to get the Chinese leader on the phone thus far. So they are moving toward actually having this happen this week. And really from my conversations with Trump administration officials, they do believe a call between the top two leaders of both countries is necessary to kind of unlock where they are right now, this status of not really sure how to move forward. And there's other moves I am told that they can take on China if they do not respond in turn. I was also told that they are not expecting to reimpose the 145% tariff figure on China, that there's other tools at their disposal. But this is really going to be a huge week for those talks with Beijing.
Steve Bannon
President Trump said that Ukraine doesn't have good cards. Well, Russia is much bigger and has a lot more people. I get that. But the world has a lot of cards against Russia. And one of those cards that we.
Foreign Policy Expert
Have is about to be played in.
Steve Bannon
The United States Senate. In America, you have more than one person at the card table. We have three branches of government and the House and the Senate are poised to act. What would change our mind if Russia came to the table, agreed to cease? Firezen.
Foreign Policy Expert
Speaking to you from Warsaw, Poland, where there was frankly almost a redux of the election, Trump Biden or Trump Harris, in the sense that you had.
Steve Bannon
A.
Foreign Policy Expert
Highly international, progressive, multilingual, media savvy candidate on one side and a candid who represents the Poles who feel that they've been left out of the economic miracle of modern Poland and are reacting against the Capitol. That is the presidential election that happened in Poland yesterday with Carol Nobrotsky, the conservative, winning. In many ways, the Trump administration was directly involved in this election in the sense that they sent cabinet member Kristi Noem, the secretary for homeland security here last week, to headline a CPAC conference in Warsaw to send the message that, you know, President Trump is with Carol Novrotsky, who is the victor. So it's a very much a political win. But the important, I think, takeaway for President elect Nosky of Poland is whether he can get into the ear of the top Trump foreign policy team in a way that his predecessors have not been able to because the polls simply have not been at the table when it comes to negotiations between Ukraine and Russia. Despite being holding the presidency of the European Council, Carol Novrotsky has won. It's a political win also for the Trump administration. Can Novrotsky convert that into closer ties with the top Trump team? We shall see.
Steve Bannon
SAM this is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going.
Boone Cutler
Medieval on these people.
Steve Bannon
Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but.
Boone Cutler
You'Re not going to stop. But it's going to happen.
Jack Posobiec
And where do people like that go.
Steve Bannon
To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Boone Cutler
Ask yourself, what is my task and.
Steve Bannon
What is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.
Boone Cutler
Country, this country will be saved.
Jack Posobiec
War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band Foreign.
Steve Bannon
It's Monday, 2nd June in the Overlord 2025 and the World is on the cusp. President Trump, as we remember, talk about the three verticals. Number one, to use all his efforts to stop the kinetic part of the third World War, which we are in the beginning of the number two was to seal the border and deport at least 13 million illegal alien invaders came here on Biden's watch. Number three was a sort of entire mess of the commercial relationships of the United States and the world. Bring manufacturing jobs back, get tariff revenue, start to cut the budget, figure out how to finance this entire mess, the entire economic equation. And Jillian Tet the other day, kind of picking up on one of the themes of the war room, that this is what we call geoeconomic. It's a convergence of national security, geopolitics, trade and Finance in a new, more sophisticated way of looking at the world. Folks, we are not closer this weekend and this morning to achieving the first and central priority of President Trump. I understand the sealing the border and deporting people is absolutely central. He promised that. But if the third. The kinetic part of the Third World War continues on, it will escalate. And once you get escalation, a situation like this, particularly on the Eurasian landmass, as two major conflicts in the 20th century, World War I and World War II, they will turn into wars of annihilation. Okay? They do in vengeance. And we are heading to a very dark place. And we're heading to a very dark place very quickly. The a massive come from behind victory in Poland for the MAGA forces. Want to give a hat tip to Matt Schlapp, Jack Posobic, Mo Bannon, everybody associated with CPAC that went over there and I think provided the necessary energy to push that over the top or at least to show people that the world is watching. A massive victory in Poland. I would love to see that in Korea because tonight we're going to have the Korean team on. They start voting early voting already in Korea tomorrow. And if Korea falls, I don't think she's going to have a lot to say. And God bless Scott Besant and Hassett and Lutnick and all this. I'm not so sure she's going to have a lot to say later in the week about. About a trade deal or anything else, because he's going to say, hey, my political warfare, I put a major asset in my pocket and now I have a knife that's right there. Korea's always been coming off the Eurasian landmark. I have a knife at the heart of Japan and Taiwan. What do you got as these rehearsals for an invasion continue on? But most important and most disturbing is what happened in Ukraine. Remember, we've never questioned the valor or the toughness of the Ukrainian military or armed forces. We have. We have been against this war from the beginning. And we told you we were going to get there. Folks, you got to understand something in the entire history of the United States and the Soviet Union about strategic forces in the Cold War. The Triad intercontinental ballistic missile missiles, the underwater ballistic missile submarines, the boomers in the third leg of the. The third leg of the Triad strategic bombers. The United States never laid a glove on the Soviet Union ever for their strategic bombers. The Ukraine, I think of 140 strategic bombers, Ukraine took out 41. It's not just the $2 billion cost. It is the psychological shock. That is the moral equivalent, either the military equivalent of putting a carrier battle group at the bottom of the sea in the Taiwan Straits or the South China Sea in some sort of kinetic conflict against the Chinese Communist Party. That's a psychological damage. That was a big hit, one of two things. The White House said they didn't know about it, were given no heads up. That's a problem. You see Lindsey Graham over there stirring things up, saying the House and the Senate got a lot to say about this, the White House saying they didn't know about it. That's a massive problem. A even bigger problem is this is consistent with my discussions over the weekend with the IC community. They believe it's impossible. It goes back to that New York times article from 24 it's impossible for Ukraine to have worked 18 months and not have American intelligence inextricably linked for target acquisition, for, for fire control solutions, for all of it on these drones with our artificial intelligence. Short commercial break we're going to get into all of it next in the War room.
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Steve Bannon
Breaking news from Poland where a conservative challenger has won the presidential vote runoff.
Ezra Cohen
After a knife edge election.
Steve Bannon
Official results released early on Monday showed Karol Novrotsky the winner with 50.9% of the vote. His rival, Warsaw's liberal mayor, Rafael Chaskowski, earned 49.1%. But earlier exit polls were neck and neck, and both candidates declared victory at.
Jack Posobiec
Different points during the night.
Steve Bannon
The post of president in Poland is largely ceremonial, but Nowrotsky's victory now sets him up for a shoulder. The German. The Germans not taking this well. Germany Mertz is here on Thursday. They just set that up over the weekend. It came after Tass, the official Russian news agency. And you got to take tasks, you know, with a big Russian grain of wheat because it's pure propaganda. However, they're the ones that leaked that the Russian military was targeting Berlin. This assault. Jack Posobic, I'm gonna get to the Polish situation in a second, but given your intelligence, you're a naval intelligence officer. It was absolutely stunning. First off, hat tip to the Ukrainians. Nothing's ever been done like this before, folks. 3,000 miles inland, this makes the Hamas, and remember we said Hamas for 18 months. The intel services had to know about that. The Muslim Brotherhood, training, financing, educating, logistics on that attack on October 7th. This is. This is to the 10th power of that major, first time ever strategic bombing forces have been eviscerated. This is worse than catching MacArthur with the fighter planes. Not the bombers, the fighter planes tip to tip in Manila on December 7, 1941. December 7th and 8th. Jack, two things, and neither one of them are good because this is a strike into Russia to their strategic forces. This is a major act of war. So one of two things, either which the New York Times been reporting now for over a year with that great report they did back in 24 with the intel. Our intel community inextricably linked with theirs with target acquisition, with fire control solutions, with artificial intelligence, all of it that planned this thing out for 18 months. There's no way the Ukrainians did this on their own. However, the other alternative, which the White House said, hey, we just found out about it, that's almost worse. Because if I'm Bibi, I'm sitting there going, hey, if Zelensky can do it, hey, line them up, let's go. Next stop, Persia. Jack Bosobic put it in. Put it in perspective for us.
Jack Posobiec
Well, Steve, what we saw here, this massive drone swarm attack in Russia, of course, it remains to be seen exactly what the battle damage assessment is. I know the Ukrainian forces and their intelligence services have been seeding these numbers and this narrative throughout Western media, and that's been percolating in that system. The Russians, of course, Understandably are trying to, to downplay this and act as if it's, you know, but they haven't been hold.
Steve Bannon
Jack, they haven't, they haven't denied it. Jack, Jack, Jack. They haven't totally denied it. And some footage is out there.
Jack Posobiec
These guys, the damage is not as they're saying that the damage is negligible and that many of the planes are in fact still usable. So again, battle damage assessment.
Steve Bannon
If you, if you took out one plane, if you took out one, Jack, if you took out one plane, this is an act of war.
Jack Posobiec
Deep.
Steve Bannon
If the United States is involved here in your Russia. And by the way, the Russians hit back with a drone strike last night, but nowhere near. And they've said, hey, wait, we're going to be all over this if you're sitting in Moscow. This is as bold an act of war that's ever happened between the United States and Russia since we were allies in World War II and then had kind of a breakup afterwards. Sir.
Jack Posobiec
The question now is when this act was taken place. These drones are set. So they're telling us that they were put in place 18 months ago. So 18 months ago is in the beginning of, or the midst of what I guess you could call the auto pen administration. So who was it on the American side that either gave the green light to this or provided the initial intelligence targeting? And is it possible then that these targets were even guided by American targeteers at some point? We know about this base, Wiesbaden, Germany. The U.S. army garrison where they have in New York Times has reported this. Steve, as you just said, they have this gymnasium that's set up and you've got the Ukrainian officials right there with NATO forces, which means, guess what, us, the Americans sitting right there providing targeting was a target package at any point given to the Ukrainians from Americans for this. And if such, do the Russians take that as an act of war from the United States on Russia proper? Because this idea of a proxy war, it's starting to get a little bit blurry along these lines. And we already saw the Germans, Steve, what were they all saying last week? The long range strikes into Russia, the long range strikes into Russia. Now boom. Well, we have what's interesting, a deep strike into Russia, but it is not from long range missiles. It's from these short range drones. And by the way, there's some indication that the operators of these drones might also have been more locally, locally placed than all the way back in Ukraine or even in Germany. So they could in fact have target to your Cells of Ukrainian forces that are inside Russia operating right now. So. So what we need to understand is twofold. Number one, what information did the intelligence community have about this at any point? And was the President of the United States, Donald Trump briefed on this? And if he was not briefed on this, or Secretary Ratcliffe, excuse me, direct CIA Director Ratcliffe or DNI Gabbard, then we got a problem. We got a really, really big problem with our intelligence community the same way that we did when President Trump was the administration the first time. Problem two is that our forces are vulnerable to this as well.
Steve Bannon
Hang on. Exactly. We're getting that. Second. Hang on. Boone Cutler is going to join us. I got Ezra Cohen. Maybe later. Ben Hartwell. Here's my problem. Well, I've got many problems on this. This is why you have to. I don't see any investigation going with the deep state. Ratcliffe actually said a couple weeks ago there's going to be no political involvement in the CIA. The thousand agents are just guys retiring. He's not going to fill the bill. There has to be. Tulsi, Gabbard and Ratcliffe should be in the Oval Office this morning, like right now. And the question should be, yo, what happened here? Did you guys know anything about it? And if you didn't know anything about it, there's got to be a major investigation, like, immediately. We got to stop playing footsie with the deep state. We had Alex Jones on last week, pro so big. You've been talking about this nonstop. They have an apparatus inside this government. It's going to do what they want. And so two things, One or two things, both of them awful, either number one, they worked with the Ukrainians to get this done, which is basically impossible if that didn't happen. However, the other one is you're telling me that our intelligence service didn't know about this, that the White House is totally caught blind. If I'm Bibi, I'm out there today saying, hey, idf, get the bombers, let's go, let's roll. Right. If they're blind to that Paso big. Both of these are terrible. And the third, Zelensky didn't give the President of the United States a heads up to say we're going to do a deep strike into strategic forces of Russia, which is going up the escalatory ladder as quickly as you can on the day before your meeting in Turkey. And Ben Harnwell informs me the meeting took 30 minutes. And this big meeting you're going to have in Turkey today, 30 minutes, and then they Punched out because there's nothing to talk about. This war is expanding and this war is getting tougher. And President Trump's number one priority was to de escalate that, get Russian rapprochement. Since posto, you and I talk about this since May 7th, 8th and 9th, since she went to that commemoration event for the 80th commemoration of victory in Europe Day from the Russian angle and for those three days, was there, was she. The Chinese have walked away from the negotiating table on trade and the Russians are trying to escalate everything with bombing strikes. And now you got Zelensky going back and that give the White House a heads up where their biggest sponsor didn't give us a heads up. The White House saying we didn't know anything about it. We saw it when it went up on Drudge. Mack Daddy, how do you square these things, brother?
Jack Posobiec
Well, Steve, it's very clear the CCP is fueling so much of this chaos and so much of this instability. Remember, the CCP is a major arms supplier right behind Russia and right along with Iran and their drones. They're enjoying the instability just as much as anyone else because it's the status quo that is being destabilized right now. And so their rise, the rise that they want of brics, the multi bilateral world unipolarity being completely ended in the United States, which by the way, it already has. So they want the instability to rise to put Trump in a situation where he's got to deal with all of these things rather than deal squarely with them. And so Zelensky, what's he doing? This is, this is meant to derail the peace negotiations, the peace process. And look, Steve, I think it's time that we all start to look very seriously on this. This has to be a deal between the US And Russia. It simply has to be done that way. You're not going to get peace any other way. They want the big deal. Everything has been rejected by both sides and Russia have.
Steve Bannon
Hang on. If we didn't know it. Okay, I got that. Okay, good. I like that. Then, then the White House has to condemn this immediately and pull all support and tell Lindsey Graham, come home. Are we going to put you under arrest when you come home? You're stirring it up. Lindsey Graham's over there saying, hey, forget Trump, I got the House in the Senate. We're going to pass it. You're going to see something in a couple of days. Remember that. He's stirring it up over there. He's telling me they got backing. If they did not give us a heads up on this all full stop, no minerals deal, walk away from all of it. They're irresponsible and they're dragging us into a kinetic Third World war. As we said, us. We're getting dragged in this now or the Deep State is driving us in there. Either of these are not good. Tulsi Gabbard's got to let us know. Did anyone in intel at all have anything to do with this? Did anybody have a heads up? Did anybody? And if not, who the hell's running the Ukraine desk? Who's running the Russia desk? Same thing with Ratcliffe. This is why Cash and Bongino and Pam Bondi. You got to clear out the Deep State. This is a ticking time bomb. And you see what they're going to get us into. Because now, now inexorably, we're being drawn into this. If we didn't know about it, the President, to me, has got to condemn it and got to say we're not gonna give any more support because these people cannot be trusted. You're supposed to be in Turkey today talking peace, not 3,000 miles into Russia blowing up their strategic bombers. Short break.
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Jack Posobiec
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Steve Bannon
You don't think Russiagate and all the phony crap they, they came up with in those early days in the nullification project to get rid of, they got rid of General Flynn. All of that to make sure we can never have any type of strategic dialogue with the Russians. You're seeing this is their payoff right now with the deep state. Boone Cutler joins us. Boone, you were the co author in Fifth Generation Warfare with the general, with General Flynn. What's your take on this? President Trump's efforts have been nonstop to get ready to lay their guns down. And from the Ukraine to Israel to the Red Sea, get them all lay their guns down, calm things down in the Straits of Taiwan, everybody put their guns down and let's have peace and let's have prosperity, drive peace. Is that working out, Boone?
Ezra Cohen
I think we're learning that the art of the deal in business is a little bit different than the art of the deal in geopolitics. It's not working out. I don't think anybody's listening. I don't think he's getting the support that he needs. I don't think the decisions being made are being based upon, you know, the actual situations that are happening around the world right now. I think it's a little bit too idealistic, realistic based upon other frames of reference. And I think we need to get very, very oriented to our operational environment right now because things are ready to kick off. Look at Taiwan, look at Ukraine, Russia, Iran. I mean, everybody's amplifying. They're not calming down.
Steve Bannon
We have flashpoints all over. Let's, let's, we'll come back to the United States internally because there's flashpoints all over here also. But throughout the world, given President Trump's great efforts and given what happened in the Middle east and all of his efforts in the Middle east, this is why it's so outrageous what the Ukrainians did. And I'm not commenting on their, the brilliance, the valor, the audacity, all of it. But geopolitically, where we stand today, this is going up, this is scampering up the escalatory ladder at the exact moment President Trump wants to get everybody off the escalatory ladder. Your thoughts about these flashpoints, sir?
Ezra Cohen
I think the flashpoints are many and I Don't think they've been this heightened in quite some time. I mean, we're looking at, you know, we're looking at situations in nuclear, in Russia, we're looking sort of situations that are nuclear with Iran. We're looking at the expansion of the CCP going into Taiwan. In order to do that, they need to neutralize our deterrent threat with nukes. I think that this game is getting escalated very, very quickly. The drones with the AI with the cyber. I think everything is escalating very, very quickly and I'm not exactly sure how things are going to calm down. And I'll put this out there. I do believe in my heart of hearts if Putin thinks he's going to lose and he's going to die, I think he's going to start hitting other countries inside of, inside of Naito, not just, not just Ukraine. And then we're going to have an escalation yet again which was precipitated by what just happened with Ukraine inside of Russia. These things are not going to go away quickly or easily. I don't think anybody's trying to buy a better position for some sort of peace settlement. I think they want all out war and I think they're going for a full blown, full blown third world war that's going to involve just about everybody that's on the China team and everybody that's on the U.S. team. And I think it's going to be ugly and I think we need to definitely reinforce what we've got going on in our own country as far as our strategic security.
Steve Bannon
Jack Bosobic Strategically, Boone is talking about the sides being chosen right now. President Trump has worked like crazy nonstop to get ready to put their guns down. That's in fact not happening. And it's just not the kinetic part. It's also the very smart political, psychological, economic warfare politically. Tonight we're going to start the evening show at 6 o' clock in Tokyo, excuse me, in Korea, Tokyo is already a mess because of the financial implosion they've got inability to sell bonds. But right now, political warfare, the culmination of a 20 or 30 year project is that the Chinese Communist Party could actually win at the ballot box tomorrow with a puppet government that basically threw Korea into a crisis by throwing out the conservative a couple of months ago. Pesoba thoughts?
Jack Posobiec
Well Steve, what you're seeing China do is a sort of non militaristic version of what Japan, I believe in 1940 coined as the Greater East Asia Co Prosperity spear. So when we talk about the first island chain that, that's Japan. That's down through Taiwan. That's down to the Philippines, the South China Sea, that's all the first island chain. That's the American version for it. China views that as their quote, unquote, sphere of influence. And so they're just working slowly but surely as the dragon encircles the entire sphere. If you look at it, it's kind of almost like a circle. If you look at it on a, on a map of the Westpac that they. This is what they want to be their sphere of influence. So what do they have? First they have Hong Kong. It's now theirs. We saw that 2019, the protests, but then Covid came around and suddenly Hong Kong was put completely under their thumb. It was given back very foolishly in 97. Now Taiwan, they're working on that. North Korea. North Korea, of course, has already been there since the 50s. They took that militarily. They were pushed back across the 38th parallel, but they still maintained the rest of the country until now. Now, South Korea will fall to a pro ccp. It is likely to fall unless the conservatives pull it out. Pro CCP party later this evening in Seoul. So now you've got South Korea and North Korea and then next will be Japan, where, guess what, the CCP influence is thick. They're fighting an insurgency out of the North Philippines, certainly, by the way, giving a wink in the nod to the southern Philippines.
Steve Bannon
Taiwan. 24, 25% of the people in Taiwan support the CCP. You got a fifth column there. It's huge.
Jack Posobiec
Well, there's generational, right? They're pushing, they're pushing uniform unification. They say we are all. It's pan, Pan China. And then after that comes Pan Asia. So we want, we want all of China to be connected. What do they do? They isolated Taiwan internationally. They cut them off from finance, they cut them off from commerce, they cut them off from markets, they cut them off from diplomacy. Jimmy Carter border, very foolishly gave the diplomatic recognition, switched it from the Republic of China. Taiwan at the United nations, gave their seat to the Chinese Communist Party back in the 1970s. And so this set up a situation where they could diplomatically isolate Taiwan from the rest of the international community.
Steve Bannon
Forget the moral, you know, democracy. Forget all that. Put it aside. Put all of that aside. In real politics, peak we. And we've tried to cut them off from access to chips, kind of like cutting Japan off from oil in 1941. You got to be ready to roll right now. We lose that we lose the chip plants in the R and D and all of that in Taiwan. The American economy drops 25%. You can't run the economy we have today without those chips. It is a strategic necessity. What's happening in Phoenix and all this, it's all great, great. It's a decade away. At least in probably 20 years till you're up to the types of production levels you need to fuel advance economy. Particularly with artificial intelligence. Jack, we don't have any choice. Cleo Pascal is going to be with us tonight. We kick off coverage in Seoul. She's on the third island chain and she's going to tell you she's warned all those islands we fought for 80 years ago, Tarawa, Peleliu, Saipan, all of them. It right. I think she's in the app. The Chinese Communist Party is there and they're spending big bucks and they're in there. What we fought for and gave our blood for is the protection of the United States strategically. They're all over, folks. We are hurtling down this when Tash reports that they're doing targeting in Berlin. And hey, maybe that's just they're sending a signal, but they're, they're not hiding what they're doing and the Ukrainians are not hiding what they're doing. And either the deep state, in fact Posobic. Is there any possibility that they could have pulled off this thing over 18 months that didn't have active and big involvement by either dni, you know, the intelligence agencies under Tulsi Gabbard, or the CIA? Sir.
Jack Posobiec
There'S no way that our intelligence services could not have known about this. We've had intelligence services that have been on the grounds, as we know prior to the war, that are directly embedded, direct embeds with Ukrainian intelligence services and Ukrainian security services. There's no way this could have been done. And by the way, that's their job. Their job is to pay attention to what's going on in the rest of the world and make sure that we know that's what their budgets are for. That's why we pay for them. That's the black letter text of the billet. So if our intelligence services didn't know about this attack, this is an even bigger problem than if they knew and simply misinformed the President. However, if they knew and misinformed the President, that's a problem for them. And it's highly unlikely that this could have been done, that this could have been coordinated and planned without some knowledge of the American intelligence services.
Steve Bannon
Okay. Besides knowledge. And they didn't give the President because White House said yesterday we didn't know anything about it. It. What about the involvement actually to do it. Do you believe the Ukrainians could set up something this sophisticated 3,000 miles across many airfields? And by the way, the Russians are saying eight and they can all be repaired. Don't believe that. Okay. Could they have done something this deep, a strike this sophisticated over 18 months and kept it, kept it from the Russians knowing? Unless you had direct involvement in the execution of this plan by either dia, CIA or any of the ones that Tulsi Gabbard runs. Sir.
Jack Posobiec
Well, Steve, it's just, it's just not how these units operated. It hasn't been how they've operated. They would have asked for the target packet. Ukraine doesn't have the type of satellite technology that, that America has. Ukraine doesn't have the same type of sophisticated NGO or NRO networks, NGA or NRO networks. Networks like America has. They don't have satellites all over the world looking at every Russian base, know when the jets are there, knowing the. How would they know when the bombers are there if they don't have the, the, the drone up in the air over the base? They would know that from satellite imagery. So where are they getting the satellite real time data from to be able to conduct the attacks? When knowing when the bombers are there, when know they're not heated. Don't tell me they got a couple of guys with a pair of binoculars, you know, or Mark 1 eyeballs sitting out and tagged down, sitting in an Uber or something or Yandex car. No, they would have been using satellite technology and imagery up to the moment. And they only could have gotten that from their one significant intelligence partner in this entire fight. And that's been going all the way back ten plus years now. And that's the United States military hangover.
Steve Bannon
A second we're go back to Boone about what's happening in the country and.
Boone Cutler
What'S used to Grant.
Steve Bannon
Kevin is. Kevin, we've. Kevin Soba Kevin. A massive. And part of this was you guys over there at CPAC to give urgency. You, your brother Jack, Matt Schlapp, the entire team, Mo Bannon, they had all the big, all the guys in the Polish right there. How big a stunning comforting behind victory is this, sir?
Kevin Sorbo
Hey, Steve, great to be with you guys today. It was an incredible victory last night. It was down to the wire. We had about, you know, many all night, just back and forth, back and forth, head to head. And yeah, we pulled Away there, just over 50% of the voters came in and it was about, I think a 300,000 vote difference at the end there. But yeah, I think it came in around 4, 4am here that they said 100% was called. It was a great time. I got to meet with Novsky briefly at the election party. But however, as I was reporting last night, it was a little different in that opposed to the American watch parties, everybody kind of went home because nobody participated in the exit polls like they do in America. And everyone figured that the call would come in the afternoon if not potentially get stolen. But that wasn't the case. That's what we can attest to. Paper ballots. You know, they don't use the Dominion voting machines over here at all. And of course the population is many, many times smaller than America. But, but, but yeah, come from behind. Victory. And yeah, I'm in Warsaw now. You can see a great, great view downtown behind me. There aren't any celebrations just yet as it's more of a liberal city. But I'm going to go out onto the town later today. We'll see what we could get into. But yeah, very high spirits here. I'm coming to you live from Republica tv. They've been generous enough to give me the setting for, for joining the War Room this morning. And yeah, yeah, it's been a great time so far, so we're looking forward to.
Steve Bannon
Kevin, hang on for a second. We're taking, we're gonna take a short commercial break. Kevin Bosovic in Warsaw. Jack Bosovic with us. Boone Cutler's with us. A lot going on here in the US we're going to have Harnwell from Rome. I think Ezra Cohen's going to join us. Rudy, a little later. We were trying to get Mike Lindella for the Trolley the Century. I think he did a press conference and then he's in the trial of the Century.
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Anyway, short break.
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I think things are going to be a little turbulent going forward, particularly President Trump's made such an effort to end the kinetic part of the Third World War directionally. I don't know. He's got the Germans in this week. He's supposed to talk to Xi later this week. I'm sure he's working the phones, but we got to get control of this thing, number one, we got to get control of the deep state. This is why we've been arguing for a special counsel. Let's get into this thing and start tearing it apart. It's either totally and completely incompetent, so why do we even have it, or they're an active participant in our demise and if they knew about it, hid it from the president, that all the deep staters should be forced out, turfed out. They either worked on this thing for decades and, or for years and, or they knew about it and hid it from the president. Take your pick. Them, take your choice. They gotta go. They've got to go. This started the very beginning of Trump's first term. This is all about General Flynn. This is about Russiagate. This is about the Nullification Project. These people are evil, okay? And you see what happened and Russia's just not going to sit there and take it. And the in the in the in. The attack was audacious and bold and brilliant. That's also not the point. Birch, Gold, the end of the dollar empire. Part of this is all heading towards Brazil, Russia, China. Three of the big bricks, those are the guys meeting in, in, in Moscow during the 80th commemoration. Everything's changed since then. That's the railhead of everything changing. The Russians being much less engaged and actually ramping up in Ukraine, the ccp. And she particularly saying we're not so interested in a trade deal and actually talk. Besson admitted they kind of walked away from the table. They walked away from everything they agreed to in Geneva. That's a quote from the secretary of Treasury. Birchgold.com Bannon ended the dollar empire more now than ever. The Rio reset. Get up to speed. Understand it. Remember ain't the price of gold. It's the process of how that price gets there and what it means over time and where it's heading over time. The Birch gold people are there to teach you to think for yourself. Also take your phone out. Bannon at 98 that would be me. B A N N O N at 989-898 the ultimate guide totally free of investing gold and precious metals in the age of Trump, not the era Trump. Jack Posobic, your thoughts about how big Poland was or is in this entire equation and exactly what does it mean for us geostrategically, Sir?
Jack Posobiec
Well Steve, it's very interesting because I read an article in Politico. Let's go back to the timeline here. I go to Poland about a week ago today, CPAC Poland kicks off incredible event. Matt Schlapp, the entire CPAC team, president of Poland, the current president of Poland, who's Terminal limited out Novsky, he's there. We're campaigning in the most conservative so it's effectively a rally in the most conservative area of southeastern Poland, which just so happens to be a little spot of Poland where a family known as Posobec comes from. So we're right down the road from where all my cousins and my, my family lives, my ancestral hometown in Leisk, Poland. And the main city was Zezhov where we were holding the event. And that's, that's like the Texas of Poland. These guys, I mean they vote like crazy for, for conservatives down there. So that's the idea. Drive out the conservative vote. And then Politico runs this article on Saturday saying oh MAGA candidates, they've hit their ceiling, they've hit the limit, they can't go any further. Steve Bannon was running around Europe back in 2017, 2018 trying to get something going. He couldn't get it off the ground. And all these CPACs are going off and they can't win anything. And so the German owned propaganda of Politico ran an election interference article the same way that Obama and Soros and Ann Applebaum, who by the way the crown princess of the globalists over at the Atlantic, who is married to, married to the current minister of defense, Radek Sikorsky of the Liberals in Poland. And she ended up. And her husband puts all. Mission accomplished. Mission accomplished. Let me guess. Let me tell you something, Anne Applebaum. The mission was accomplished. You lost. Obama lost, Soros lost, Applebaum lost, the globalists lost. What won? God, country, faith, homeland, culture. That's what won. That's what was on the ballot. And the Polish people said, you know what? We're sick of it. We're sick of having Brussels and all the rest of it jammed down our throats votes. We're sick of being told that we need to open our borders and replace the people of Poland with people who are not Polish people who don't share our ways. And we're done with that. And this candidate, Nabarovsky, when he ran Steve, he won. And I'll explain why. Number one excellent candidate in his own right, 43 years old, he's a former boxer, he's a guy who's been operative in intellectual circles as a conservative. And he runs a World War II remembrance museum in Poland. Poland's got a long history and World War II in Poland isn't that long ago when you think about it, that his job was to stand up and say this is how we survived World War II. The horrors of that and then the horrors of the Soviet occupation for 80 years. For 80 years. And how did Poland survive It was by maintaining their borders, their language, their culture and their faith. And so. So this victory, when they sent everything they said, I was on this show two weeks ago saying how the globalists were going all in on Poland because this is the key linchpin to Ukraine. How did he win? He won by moving to the right and to shore up the right wing support in the party across the very now Poland's got a multi party democracy.
Steve Bannon
Turn them out.
Jack Posobiec
European countries turn them out. So he wins that. He wins by moving right, says no Ukraine and NATO. No Ukraine in the eu. We're going to push for the peace deals. He said we support Ukraine's right to self defense, but we want peace. Why? Because stability was what we need, not war.
Steve Bannon
The global one. The globalists sent Obama over. They pay him a million bucks. They had this phony conference a week before the week. I think it was the first of the week before it with Valerie Jarrett and all of them. They're all in on this. Hey, the polls say they said Fukuyama himself. The poll saved us in Vienna right at the beginning of this whole thing. Jack, I know you got to bounce. Where do people get your content? Social media, podcasts, Real America's Voice all of it.
Jack Posobiec
Well, we're going to be up at 2pm of course, here, 2pm Eastern. I'm back in the U.S. and what can I say, Steve? They may have sent Obama, they may have sent Valerie Jarrett, they may have sent Ann Apple bomb. But you know something? When the Poso Bros show up in Poland, you know it's about to go down. We're never going to forget where we're from.
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Bannon's War Room: Episode 4528 Summary
Release Date: June 2, 2025
Episode Title: MAGA Victorious In Poland; Maintaining Sovereignty From AI
1. Ukraine's Strategic Drone Offensive on Russia
The episode opens with a significant update on Ukraine's military strategies against Russian aggression. An NBC News reporter details a groundbreaking attack where Ukraine launched a massive drone strike deep within Russian territory. Dubbed Operation Spiderweb, this mission targeted over 40 Russian bomber planes across a span of nearly 3,000 miles, from eastern Siberia to Russia's western border. The operation is estimated to have inflicted over $2 billion in damages to Russia's aerial capabilities.
[00:05] NBC News Reporter: "Ukraine launched a massive drone attack deep inside Russian territory. The New York Times calls it a coordinated operation that targeted sites from eastern Siberia to Russia's western border."
While the New York Times highlighted the meticulous planning that spanned over a year and a half—emphasizing the smuggling and remote activation of drones—NBC News noted that independent verification of these claims was pending. However, the Russian Defense Ministry confirmed the attacks, adding credibility to Ukraine's assertions.
2. Internal Discussions and Reactions
Stephen Bannon engages in a heated exchange with other panelists, expressing concerns over escalating tensions and urging caution to prevent further antagonism with Russian forces.
Notable Quotes:
[01:19] Steve Bannon: "Just stay away. Stay away. He's right there. He's throwing Molotov cocktails right there."
[02:07] Steve Bannon: "This guy is the one he got."
3. Assault on Protesters and Legal Implications
Tulsi Gabbard provides an update on a chaotic incident involving an individual named Solomon, who assaulted supporters of hostages held in Gaza by Hamas using a makeshift flamethrower. The attack resulted in injuries to four women and four men, including a Holocaust survivor.
[02:09] Tulsi Gabbard: "Witnesses describe how he was just dousing people and trying, you know, people were running to their aid, trying to basically put out the flames with water bottles."
Gabbard emphasizes the severity of Solomon's actions, highlighting the multiple felony charges, including murder, pending against him.
4. U.S.-China Relations and Presidential Diplomacy
A political analyst discusses the growing frustrations of the U.S. administration with China's lack of adherence to previously agreed commitments. Efforts are underway to establish a direct communication line between President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping to navigate these tensions.
Notable Quotes:
[03:16] Political Analyst: "President Trump... believes that he could help settle this by talking to Xi Jinping..."
[03:55] Steve Bannon: "That this will be ironed out."
Foreign policy experts express optimism that direct talks between Trump and Xi will resolve trade disputes and other geopolitical issues, though concerns about escalating conflicts remain.
5. Poland's Presidential Election Victory
A significant highlight of the episode is the coverage of Poland's recent presidential election, where Karol Novrotsky, a conservative candidate, secured victory in a tightly contested runoff against Warsaw's liberal mayor, Rafael Chaskowski. The victory is portrayed as a political win for the MAGA movement, with strong support from CPAC and allied conservative figures.
Notable Quotes:
[16:35] Steve Bannon: "Breaking news from Poland where a conservative challenger has won the presidential vote runoff."
[16:27] Foreign Policy Expert: "Speaking to you from Warsaw, Poland... the presidential election that happened in Poland yesterday... in many ways, the Trump administration was directly involved."
The win is interpreted as a rejection of globalist agendas, emphasizing Poland's commitment to national sovereignty, cultural preservation, and opposition to external influences such as the European Union and immigration policies.
6. The BRICS Summit and the Rio Reset
Boone Cutler discusses the impending global summit of the BRICS nations (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa) scheduled for July in Rio de Janeiro. The summit aims to displace the U.S. dollar as the world's leading reserve currency—a move dubbed the Rio Reset. The potential decline in the dollar's value poses significant risks to American savings and the global financial system.
[14:57] Boone Cutler: "As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US Dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollar in your savings."
The discussion underscores the urgency for Americans to diversify their investments, with sponsors promoting gold and precious metals as a hedge against the anticipated financial shift.
7. Escalating Geopolitical Tensions and the Threat of Third World War
The panel delves into the broader implications of Ukraine's drone attack on Russia, suggesting that such bold military actions could precipitate a larger conflict. Steve Bannon warns of the kinetic escalation of what he terms the Third World War, highlighting the psychological and strategic impacts of crippling a nation's strategic bombers.
Notable Quotes:
[05:11] Steve Bannon: "The world is on the cusp... preventing escalation into wars of annihilation."
[25:25] Steve Bannon: "This is going up, this is scampering up the escalatory ladder at the exact moment President Trump wants to get everybody off the escalatory ladder...This is why it's so outrageous what the Ukrainians did."
The conversation emphasizes the failures of the U.S. intelligence community in anticipating such attacks and the potential dangers of a "deep state" influencing foreign policy decisions without presidential oversight.
8. Internal U.S. Stability and Economic Concerns
Boone Cutler shifts the focus to domestic issues, highlighting the increasing purchases of U.S. farmland by Chinese entities and the control over critical supply chains. The discussion warns of potential disruptions in global food production and urges Americans to prepare for emergencies.
[28:27] Boone Cutler: "The Chinese have been buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of U.S. farmland...we need to be ready."
Additionally, the episode addresses personal debt crises exacerbated by inflation, promoting services that assist individuals in managing and eliminating debt.
9. Calls to Action and Audience Engagement
Throughout the episode, Stephen Bannon and his co-hosts encourage listeners to take proactive measures in safeguarding their financial futures and national interests. Sponsorship segments advertise investment in gold, emergency preparedness, and debt relief services, aligning with the show's themes of economic resilience and sovereignty.
Notable Advertisement Excerpts:
[05:27] Steve Bannon: "...Birch Gold can help you move your hard-earned savings into a tax-sheltered IRA and precious metals claim."
[53:27] Boone Cutler: "Done With Debt has unique and frankly brilliant escape strategies to help end your debt fast..."
10. Concluding Remarks and Future Implications
Stephen Bannon concludes the episode by reiterating the escalating global tensions and the necessity for strategic responses to protect American interests. The victory in Poland is hailed as a beacon of the MAGA movement's influence abroad, while ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and the South China Sea underscore the precariousness of global stability.
[45:35] Steve Bannon: "It's either totally and completely incompetent, so why do we even have it, or they're an active participant in our demise...They gotta go."
Bannon emphasizes the urgency of addressing internal governmental challenges to effectively navigate the complex geopolitical landscape, advocating for a united front to maintain national sovereignty and prevent further escalation into global conflicts.
Key Takeaways:
Ukraine's Operation Spiderweb marks a significant escalation in the conflict with Russia, demonstrating advanced drone warfare capabilities and raising concerns about broader military confrontations.
Poland's Conservative Victory signals a strengthening of the MAGA movement's influence in Europe, challenging globalist agendas and emphasizing national sovereignty.
The BRICS-led Rio Reset poses a threat to the U.S. dollar's dominance, urging Americans to consider alternative investments to protect their financial stability.
Geopolitical tensions with China continue to escalate, with critical discussions on maintaining U.S. sovereignty amidst technological advancements in AI and strategic warfare.
Internal U.S. challenges, including economic instability and external threats to agriculture, highlight the need for robust preparedness and strategic economic planning.
This episode underscores the interconnectedness of global politics, economic strategies, and national security, positioning Bannon's War Room as a critical platform for discussing the evolving dynamics of international relations and domestic resilience.