
Episode 4535: End Of The Rules Based International World Order ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
Jack Posobiec
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Steve Bannon
It is Wednesday 4June in the year of our Lord 2025. 5th anniversary when we founded the new federal state of China. Also the 36th anniversary starting last night, of the Tiananmen Square massacre. Breaking news, Jack Posobics joining us. Breaking news, folks, from Reuters. Headline, putin openly questions peace talks after blaming Ukraine for deadly bridge attack. In Russia, talks about the bridge attacks. Also gets down to the he doesn't want to admit the 41 of the 100 strategic. But this would be like taking out the B52s in Omaha. They were 3,000 miles deep into into Russia. And it's only kudos for the audacity, the boldness, the courage, the brilliance, the smarts, the street savvy, all of that. The moxie to pull it off. That's also not the point. The point is we either did it with the intelligence group in V Spaden backed by the deep state here in the United States because Steve Bannon and I think Jack Brasil were going to agree. Zero probability those guys could pull it off without that. Or they, they held it. They, they, this thing went down and, and they hid it from the president. Or Zelensky just decided, I'm gonna go do it and didn't inform the president. This is why I say, hey, Bibi, we're the biggest guys are saying you can't go it alone. You can't attack. We gotta get a diplomatic solution. Of course the mullahs are calling a bluff there, but Bibi ought to get the planes up on the right, get them on the tarmac. If Zelinski can do it, why can't BB do it? If we don't condemn Zelensky, we don't condemn Zelensky. And tell Lindsey to shut up and get back to the United States. We're gonna cut your Passport off. Because Lindsey's flitting around France and Germany, front page everywhere, giving interview, more interviews. Because here he's just another grundoon banging around up there in the, in the Senate, causing trouble over there. He's a big shot, bigger than the Secretary of State, bigger than the Secretary of Defense combined. Because the elite media over there wants to hear that, that essentially he's got a veto proof bill that he's going to put forward. Heck with trump. I got 81 votes in the Senate. I got more votes, I got over two thirds in the House. Between the rino, the neocon Republicans and all the Democrats, right, who just love war, the war machine. Jack Posobec, thank you for taking time away today from your schedule to come on and join us. Putin right there. And I said this, why sit down at a peace conference? Why sit down at a ceasefire conference? You're letting you sponsor a country that's going up the escalatory ladder. There's no rapprochement. What's the rapprochement about? I dig Xi. Xi came over. We played footsies for a couple of days in May at the eighth anniversary. He's buying my oil, he's buying my gas, he's giving me weapons. They're not the best guys in the world. We kind of hate them. But, hey, you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And right now you're my enemy because you're going up the escalatory ladder on a kinetic conflict deep into Russia. And that doesn't look too good for Putin because he's saying, hey, I got some ultra nationalist, you know, I got Wagner to the 10th power hanging around the Kremlin. These ultra nationalist generals are saying, you know, Putin, maybe he's too weak, maybe he can't hit his fat, maybe he can't hit the fastball anymore. Jack Posobic, your thoughts?
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, Steve, thanks again for having me on. And after our clip the other day, in the aftermath of this, which has now gotten a lot of attention, my phone's been ringing off the hook. I was working the phones as well, and the back channel that I've received, and the report that I can report back on all of this, is that there are elements of the US Intelligence community that absolutely knew about this Operation Spiderweb and hid it from the President of the United States and the White House upper echelons of the national security leadership. And particularly there are a lot of questions surrounding, as you've mentioned, the Senator Lindsey Graham, but also former CIA Director Mike Pompeo. Who is currently right now in Odessa, Ukraine. And there's a lot of questions about who actually is the head of the CIA, because Mike Pompeo is over there. Mike Pompeo has said that we need to end the peace talks. Mike Pompeo has said that the war should continue. And they're now seeing elements of the CIA apparatus and other national security apparatuses within the current Trump administration, within the current government of the United States that are loyal now to Brennan, they're loyal to Clapper. They were those guys that were put up and promoted during the Biden administration. So they got started. Remember, under Obama, they were never fired. Then under Biden, they were put into positions of power. Steve, they are still in those positions of power and they have gone rogue. There are elements of the national security community that have gone rogue and are now approving and being involved with and knowing about these operations that are directly opposed to the agenda of the President. United States.
Steve Bannon
No, no, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. They haven't gone rogue. This is the deal. This is the way the deep state runs. We're not doing anything about it. Is Chris Wray now with the Grassley's thing on the FBI about. It was all over the country, just not in Richmond about this. Traditional Catholics and they're getting into the abortion movement as extreme at the behest of the SPLC at the Southern Poverty Law Center. It's not going rogue. This is the plan. This is the way it rolls. They look at Trump as rogue. They look at MAGA as rogue. We got a handful of people over in the West Wing. You got a couple of three people in Capitol Hill, you know, a couple in the House, a couple in the Senate. This is the policy of the permanent government of the United States and the lords of easy money on wal the arms manufacturers all over the country. The big tech, which I want to go to, you know, you got to, hey, Chinese Communist Party's maybe get ahead of us. Got to do all artificial intelligence. Palantir, you need to coordinate everything, brother. This ain't rogue. This is the plan. They're rolling. They don't care if Donald Trump's there. You think they care about that? They don't care. Jack Posobic, Steve, Ben and yelling. Microphones. Yell all you want that we're rolling, dude. If that's, if that, if that takes, you know, Curtis LeMay's mass murtory fantasy, we're going to, we're going to execute on it. And you know what you're going to do about it? Nothing. You're going to like it. Mike Pompeo already took. What? He took $100 million from the Qatar. He needs it. Needs another payoff in Ukraine. You're 100% right. What the hell is he doing? Odessa, Putin. I thought the whole purpose of the program was to sit down the President, United States, to stop the kinetic part of this third World war, which we're in. Wanted to. Wanted to put everybody put their guns down and let's start talking and talk about prosperity. They'll lead to ultimate peace. Putin just came back to you. There's nothing to talk about. There's nothing to talk about. You're doing strikes deep inside of Russia at part of our strategic triad. That'd be like going to Omaha and blowing up a couple of B52s, would it not, Jack Bosovic.
Stephen K. Bannon
That's exactly what it's like, Steve. And of course, Putin also responded not only to the strikes on the bombers, but also this strike on the train which targeted civilians. The strike on the Kerch Strait bridge. I believe it's the third time that it's been hit, this time with an underwater bomb. Again, yes, it is a supply route, but it's also a civilian bridge. So these are civilian targets that are now being hit that are in some cases, deep within the backfield, like this. Like this train. Deep within the backfield, the strategic bombers. And then right there, the key link between the Russian mainland and Crimea being that Kurd Strait Bridge, which was built by Putin. So it's always been a key symbol of his. His presidency, a key symbol of his unifying of Russia with Crimea. It's something that he's pointed to many times, which of course makes it a strategic symbol, maybe not militarily as much, but certainly for propaganda purposes for the Ukrainians and for Zelensky. And the key here is, Steve, is just as you said, these elements that they're not taking direction from the White House, they're not taking direction from the President, United States. They're not reading Truth Social. The boys over in Wiesbaden, the boys over at Langley, they're operating business as usual. And rather than listen to the White House, they are instead getting in the way of the White House. They are scuttling the peace talks. They don't care about the peace talks. They think it's a sideshow for politics and they are going to continue doing what the CIA always does. They think that. They believe the show. And unfortunately, in this case, they were able to get this done without the knowledge of the President, United States.
Steve Bannon
Why wouldn't they do it? They're running the deal and now they've got, now they've got Putin, now they got Putin. Putin's not interested in talks and one of the reasons not interested in talks, he's got Xi sitting there going, why, why are you wasting time talking to these guys? The Americans are going to be the American. The CIA is going to be the CIA. DNI is going to be dni. The Pentagon's going to be the Pentagon. The arms merchants going to be the arms merchants. They're going to hit us and they're going to hit us deep into the country. And yeah, they're going to use Zelensky and his guys as intermediaries, but they're the ones behind it. And V. Spaden, this ain't us saying it, this is the New York Times and nobody refuted it. In V. Spaden you got German and American intelligence are running the deal. That's where they run the war out of. Jack Posobic. Is anybody even question that? Steve, the reason is where are the indictments? Where does the grand jury even give me a congressional hearing? You know, pat us on the head cash. I got the fact, I love it. The fact we picked up some Chinese graduate student and yes, they're bringing some fungus into the country and that's terrible but don't run around beat your chest. That's nothing. Where in the hell's taking apart the FBI? Where in the hell's taking apart the CIA? Where the hell is taking apart dni? Where are the mass layoffs? Where's the cut of the budget? Last time I looked, all these budgets increase, in fact, throwing a billion dollars at a new FBI headquarters because we're shutting down the brutalist architecture over there on, on Pennsylvania Avenue or when Constitution hits Pennsylvania, where is it? These guys are running the deal and they're laughing in your face. They want to get into a kinetic war. They want to get it on. It's good for business. It's good for business. Everybody makes money now some American kids may get killed, but hey, did anybody complain in Iraq? Did anybody complain in Afghanistan? I didn't see that until Trump came along. We kept voting him in office. Bush is sitting down there with a big old library sucking up Saudi money. Why he got us into this war, a war of choice that they lied to the American people about. Oh by the way, with the intelligence services, bald faced, lied to the American people. Bald faced, lie to the American people. This is what, this is how, this is how this is how the interest, they put the interests of the country first. $9 trillion according to Brown University in 20 years. Jack Basovic they're not rogue, you're rogue. President Trump is rogue. War room is rogue. We're the outliers. You've got no control of anything. The Ukraine thing showed it and I haven't seen any condemnation. Go ahead, sir.
Stephen K. Bannon
Steve the stakes are this. If Trump's peace talks are successful, this represents the end of the international liberal order, the rules based order. These peace talks represent a complete end of their power structure. Because if this is successful and if Trump is successful and Bessant and all the other elements of the deal that they're putting together, if they are successful, that means that the neoliberal world order is over. They're absolutely over. And that's what they're fighting for. And they don't care how many people have to die, whether it be Ukrainians, Russians, Americans, Poles. They don't care because they want their power structure and they will hold onto it with the bloody fingers until their very last grip. That's why you're against this. The entire power structure is riding on it.
Steve Bannon
Poso, hang on for one second. I bring you back. We're jammed with top guests who all understand this in detail, including my Chinese colleagues who understand it from lived experience. But Captain Fennell brings up an interesting point, Jack. He said, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't this exactly the opposite of what the American people voted for last November? They voted for President Trump saying, hey, I'm going to bring peace to the world. We're going to stop shooting up everywhere. We're going to stop these forever wars. We're going to stop it. I think that's one of the reasons we brought together black, Hispanic, white, working class, blue collar Democrats. People have said we've had enough of this. It's their kids are going to suffer. Who's in the 101st Airborne in Romania? Who's around? Who's in all those groups around surrounding Russia right now? Who's in South Korea? You think it's the elites. You think it's the people on Capitol Hill. You think it's the lords of Easy money on Wall Street. You think it's the sons and daughters of the of the Berlagarchs? You would be incorrect. You would be incorrect. It's your sons and your daughters. They're playing with your money, not theirs to play with your assets, the ones dearest to you. Short commercial break Back in the warm in just a moment this July there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. The bloc of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Persia are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio Reset. As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US Dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollar in your savings. While this transition won't not happen overnight, but trust me, it's going to start in Rio. The Rio Reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality. Learn if diversifying your savings into gold is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard earned savings into a tax sheltered IRA and precious metals claim your free info kit on gold by texting my name Bannon. That's B A N N o N to 989-898 with an A plus rating with the Better Business Bureau. And tens of thousands of happy customers led Birchgold army with a free no obligation info kit on owning gold before July and the Rio reset. Text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898. Do it today. That's the Rio reset. Text Bannon at 989-898 and do it today.
Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Steve Bannon
The U.S. good news is the U.S. army surpassed in four months the entire recruiting goal for the fort for the, for 2025. That's great. But hey, that may just be more cannon fodder. We got to make sure that those kids are fighting for a purpose. A task and a purpose. Jack Posobic, lead story in the New York Times right now. As the mullahs told us. Thanks, but no thanks. And this looks like a verification program. It doesn't look like we're, we put forward a take it apart program, but the mullah said upon further review, no thanks. Look, Beijing's running the deal. They're telling Russia we got your back. They told them that on the three days they spent in Moscow. We got your back. The Americans are all talk. And now you see you got the Ukrainians. It'd be like Mexico working with the Chinese and doing a drone strike up to Omaha, Nebraska and taking out the B52s or the B1s or the B2s, whatever the latest is. Right? That's the equivalent.
Stephen K. Bannon
Were the Chinese drones lifting off from the farmlands that they owned right to our airports.
Steve Bannon
But the Chinese drones from the farmlands would make it directly to China. They would use the cartels, have the cartels have your, have your proxy, have a cartel send a thousand drones into Omaha, into Nebraska, up to the places where we got the ICBMs, take out the, take out the bomber part of the triad. So you got cartel tragedy to break. On the breaking, on the breaking news. You've got, you have sources are telling you that the deep state operatives, and they're not that deep. It's kind of on the surface, the in your face state, not the deep state that they are working on this and we're part of this assault on the Russian people. Is that correct, Steve?
Stephen K. Bannon
You've got people up there in high levels of power that still inside the intelligence services that are still operating with the names Clapper and Brennan at the top of their resumes, who were direct reports to Brennan and Clapper that now claim that they're apolitical and they're totally working for the American people. No, it's the opposite. It was the Obama administration, Brennan and Clapper, and then Burns under Joe Biden. They are the ones who politicized the intelligence agencies. It is Trump's, it has been Trump's effort since the very start to try to depoliticize the agencies by getting rid of these people. And unfortunately, heads have not rolled, Steve. Heads absolutely need to roll over the lies about not knowing about Operation Spiderweb and these other attacks taking place in the Russian backfield. They absolutely know about this. They hid it from the President of the United States and they've decided that they know better. The exact same way that the intelligence agencies were the fulcrum, the, that the left used for the nullification project of President Trump's first administration, which led to what, which led to two impeachments, which led to a fed direction, which led to everything that took place to install Joe Biden in power. That's why these agencies need to be brought to heel. And the MAGA movement, and I hear it every day and I know the war room posse says it every day. They say, when's it coming? When's it coming? When's it coming? And this isn't sour grapes. They understand the threat that, that this provides not only to the peace talks, but the threat of escalation to World War 3 and the direct threat to President Trump that they present because this is where the impeachments began the first time around.
Steve Bannon
So shouldn't we have, shouldn't we have the White House come out and then condemn the attack and say, anybody accountable? We're going to, we're going to do an investigation and we're cutting off Zelensky and these guys for not, not notifying directly Zelensky, not picking up the phone and calling the president saying this was going to happen. Shouldn't we have that?
Stephen K. Bannon
I think there needs to be a response. There absolutely needs to be a response. President Trump, I obviously, we know that there's a lot of things going on behind the scenes, but at this point in the front and the media, that's why the media is going up to Caroline Levitt and saying, wait a minute, you guys responded when Russia had their drone strikes and Russia did this. How come you're not responding here? How come you're not saying anything? How come it's radio silence and you keep talking peace talks, but meanwhile both sides are blowing each other up, but one side receives what intelligence sharing from the United States. Intelligence sharing, like, oh, I don't know, how about the satellite locations of the Russian strategic bomber fleet knowing in real time when they're going to be on the target. Don't tell me that you can hit four or five bases all the way to Siberia without knowing with real time targeting data. You got a couple of guys up there with binoculars. No, that was intelligence sharing that came certainly from Five Eyes and more than likely either from the Americans or the British. It's very direct on this. So that's why you have Putin coming out now saying, why, why should we participate in these peace talks if you guys are going to keep allowing the intelligence sharing complete, continue to allow the satellite imagery to be shared so that these attacks can continue? You got the Germans now saying they want and MERS saying that he wants the long range strikes, the Taurus missiles that's going to be coming next, totally lifting the can off. And remember, MERS tried to say originally that Trump had signed. He tried to put words in President Trump's mouth to say that President Trump had signed off on long range strikes into Russia. President Trump never said that. President Trump said that he wanted peace. President Trump was elected to bring peace. And you have all of these elements from. I expect it from the Europeans and I respect, I expect it from Five Eyes. But where I wouldn't expect it from, where I would hope is from our own intelligence community that's being run under the Trump White House. That's where you need to put the pressure. That's where heads need to roll. And that's where if someone's got a Brennan or a Clapper or these other names on their resume, then it needs to be thank you for your service. Best of luck in your following endeavors.
Steve Bannon
Yeah. Jack. Where they go to get all your content?
Stephen K. Bannon
We're going to be up we're coming on hot today, Human events daily, 2pm Eastern here on Real America's Voice as well as coast to coast on the Salem Radio Network.
Steve Bannon
We may pull some clips from that. Thank you, brother. Two o' clock. Pasovic right here in Real America.
Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
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Captain Fennell
Well, I think I've got great concern about how an attack like this would work. When they said Zelensky advertised that he'd been working on it for 18 months. So we know who was president 18 months ago. We know who was running Langley and these other agencies 18 months ago. So is it possible that for up until President Trump took office and swapped out the leadership in these positions, that there was coordination and planning with Zelensky to do something like this? It's very, very possible. I can't speak to what's happened in the last four months. The President says he doesn't know. That's, you know, I take him at his word. But I agree with you. If he didn't know, why didn't he know? And how is it possible that something like this could happen? And if it all is that he didn't know, then this means that we have a real serious problem, as you suggested, because it means that Beijing is running the table. They've now got the peninsula under their th. They've got. They've got. The Belarusian leader Lukashenko is in China for his 15th visit right now. You've got all this.
Steve Bannon
The centerpiece of President Trump's peace plan is a Russian rapprochement. You just had Putin sit there and go, there's no need for us to sit down on a ceasefire or anything else, because you're attacking me deep into Russia against our strategic assets. There's nothing to talk about. Do you agree that that's counter to what President Trump ran on in the centerpiece of his trying to stop the kinetic part of the Third World War before it spins out of control?
Captain Fennell
Sir, that's exactly what he ran on. He was elected because people said, we don't want any more wars. And now when I read that we have former, you know, CIA director, Secretary of State in Odessa on Saturday saying that we're not going to stop, we're not going to give up, we're going to keep fighting. That. That's alarming to me. Why, why somebody of that stature would be making those kind of statements, and then an attack occurs so very, very concerning that the wishes of the American people seem to be being disregarded because of all these factors that you've been and Jack have been talking about over the last few minutes.
Steve Bannon
Captain, for now, you're still not on social media, but you got a great book that's out. Where do people get that and where they get your writings? I think American greatness and a couple other places where they go to get more. Captain Fennell.
Captain Fennell
Well, the book Brad Thayer and I wrote last year, embracing Communist China, America's greatest strategic failure, you can get on any book publishing site, Skyhorse Publishers, Amazon, all the rest. I write for American greatness sometimes, and I sometimes annually have an article in the US Naval Institute that goes through the size and the activity of the PLA Navy for the previous year.
Steve Bannon
And that's not good. The rise of the PLA Navy. Captain Fennell, thank you so much for joining us. We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to leave you with Holy War. That's a thought. It is a spiritual war we're hurtling toward. We're being inexorably drawn into this, folks. This is why they're going to say you can't tamp down artificial intelligence. This is why they're going to say, hey, we'd love to talk to you about cutting the defense budget from a trillion dollars, but we can't. It's all inextricably linked. Jim Rickards, one of our major contributors. Rickards war room.com go check it out today. It's a landing page. You can get access to Strategic Intelligence, which is his newsletter that chairman and CEOs the C suite throughout the world reads. Read what they read, think about what they're thinking about. Get inside information. Rickardswarroom.com strategic intelligence do it today. If you love capital markets, national security and geopolitics, there's something happening with our farmland here in the United States that isn't getting enough attention. The Chinese have been buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of U.S. farmland. They're also taking control over critical supply chains, things like fertilizer and animal feed and farming equipment. Why? It's not clear. They're tightening the grip on global food production. That is clear. And if things go south and it could happen quickly, we need to be ready. That's why I trust my Patriot supply. They're America's largest emergency preparedness company. And right now when you get their four week emergency food supply, you'll get a free four 247 food kits, an extra 12 days of food, absolutely free. Okay, full stop. You're have to insert this, okay. And right now when you get there, four week emergency food supply. You'll get four free 72 hour food kits, an extra 12 days of food absolutely free. Let me repeat that. You're going to get four free 72 hour food kits. That's an extra 12 days of food and it's absolutely free. That's four weeks of delicious meals that last up to 25 years delivering 2,000 plus calories per day. It's shipped fast and it's shipped free. We can't control what the Chinese Communist Party does. You can't control what China does. But we can control how prepared we are go to my patriotsupply.com today to claim your 12 days of free food shop mypatriotsupply.com my patriotsupply.com do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Steve Bannon
Chris Fenton saw it up close and personal. Being a producer in China. What about them? What about Beijing's misinformation campaign to really let them? This is why so many of our people in the United States are waking up to this. It was one of the big themes of our show last night with the new federal state team. America's waking up to this. But how does Beijing go out of the way to suppress this?
Jack Posobiec
Chris well, it's pretty unbelievable. Here we are, it's June 4th, June 4th of an anniversary from the 1989 massacre and it's almost impossible to find any photos of, say, the Tank man, which you guys have talked about a few times both yesterday and today. A lot of that is because of the way information and various other narrative is suppressed, pressed or others are amplified. So if you ask any freshman Chinese student that grew up after June 4, 1989 that comes here to the United States of America about that Tankman photo, they'll say they've never seen it before. And quite frankly, if you look at the rest of the world right now, you could argue that a lot of people haven't seen that photo elsewhere either, whether Chinese or American or German. If you look at the way our media and various other industries have suppressed information about China, you can look no further than say, AI technology, which you've been talking a lot about lately. If you type in the difference of the way an American perceives, say the Soviet Union from television and film versus the way the average American perceives China from television and film coming from Hollywood, you will see a major difference. And both of those regimes were authoritarian, totalitarian, very suppressive, etc. But the way people perceive China now is much more blue sky, much more culturally diverse, much more gleaming cities, infrastructure that's best in class, no pollution, no crime, various other things because we just simply don't depict China the way it actually is in reality. When it came to the Soviet Union back in the day, of course we had the Gorky Parks and we had the all kinds of different spy type of films and television series. So we were allowed to have that type of depiction of Soviet Union that allowed people to essentially have a more open opinion of what that country was like, what that regime and system was like, versus the way we perceive China today. So that suppression of, of narrative, that suppression of information, the amplification of the Beijing story, the way they want it told is proliferated all around the world. And it's all part of the information warfare that you've been talking about for the past five years.
Steve Bannon
We only got a couple of minutes, but I know you've been at the forefront, you've come back to the House and it's Capitol Hill. What, what then can be done? What can this audience do or what can be done to make sure that we're not getting what they're spoon feeding us? Because they are spoon feeding us because they're in business with the studios, they're in business with the capital providers that finance the films. What then is to be done, sir?
Jack Posobiec
Well, the best thing that can happen is that the golden goose of that market gets shut down or in fact, the way it's occurred, say to Hollywood and various other industries where they've created major domestic competitors, to us, where we've been essentially thrown out of that market. I mean, you're looking at a market that was as high as 80% Hollywood titles at one point, say a decade ago. Now it's down to about 5%. So if that money incentive is not there anymore, the incentive to essentially curb the way we talk about China or the way we present China in films and television, or even the way an investment bank talks about it, if they're starting to see a lot of their revenues start to decrease in that market, or say a shoe company like Nike, if they start to get out marketed by say a Li Ning or some of the other competitors over there, you'll start to see this subside, this, this essentially catering to everything that Beijing's asking for because simply the money's not there anymore. So just follow the money and you'll follow the narrative.
Steve Bannon
Chris, where do people. You've written books about this, you write articles about this, you're on tv, you're doing media hits on this. Where do people go to get all your content?
Jack Posobiec
Yeah, I'm Hedragon feeder on Twitter, so I'm very active there. I also wrote the book Feeding the Dragon Inside the Trillion Dollar Dilemma Facing Hollywood, the NBA and American Business, which is on feedingthedragonbook.com and you'll see me quite a bit on television and various other hits. So I'm very vocal and transparent about this issue. And it's something that's very important for all Americans and quite frankly, the Western world to be aware of.
Steve Bannon
Brother, thank you so much for Taking time to come on the war room today.
Stephen K. Bannon
Appreciate it.
Jack Posobiec
Thanks for having me again.
Steve Bannon
I got this one. Eva, I want Chris made a very important point that it's presented of gleaming super airports and rail systems that work and everybody's happy. And the Chinese Communist Party only 90,000 people have brought particularly the leadership. They have brought together 1.3 billion Chinese into a happy, successful society. What's the reality of life for Lao Beijing in mainland China today? Under the rule of the Beijing thugs.
Eva
Ma' am, it has been a living hell for 70 years plus. So this is exactly why. So we have to look beyond the reason and understanding the playbook. And this is we always refer the CCP as a paper tiger. And I think everybody agrees with that. They are okay, but how did they resurrect so many times from near death situation is they understand their best weapon and they played it perfectly. And this is why I want the audience of the war room posse remember it and their goal whenever they're doing. And I will lay this with another historical lessons today. Just like we share about the June force yesterday and then connected with the first Donald Trump, President Trump's first turn and the second turn and then hopefully I have. I can use 10 minutes to explain that. So their playbook, nothing more than so does court create division and fueling the hatred. Okay, only the three their weapons. So the paper tiger not only sustain themselves over those decades, but also rise becoming the most powerful, the most even force in the world. Give you a lesson because we can remember the Chinese people not being able to tell their story. It's very sad. The nation has been weeping for decades. One story I want you to hear loud and clear today. A lot of your audience is well versed in history, particularly those history dates back to 1930 all the way to the civil war which there's two parties in China at that time. When you look at the power disparity between the Nationalist Party and the CCP back in 1930s all the way to 1948, the gap between them is so vast and it's the same gap as you Compare with the US back in 1989 versus the CCP at that time. Okay, their power disparity not even close. But how did. How did such a small group of cottish Communist Party established by Mao successfully not only use the Kuomintang National Party army fighting the foreign invader Japan, but also fueling the hatred from the Chinese people towards the true hero, which is the National Party? Guess how many soldiers from the CCP died fighting the eight years of Japanese invader 800. How many of them died from the Nationalist Party. But why the Chinese people did not vote for Nationalist Party? You have to understand what forces are playing here. How did the CCP played their book that basically turning the conflict wide open between the Nationalist Party and Japanese invaders. Okay. And successfully using the fake propaganda fake information like we shared with you yesterday, like June 4th. How they played the students. How they play the students representative. How they play the Chinese people. How they play played everybody, including their own soldiers to resurrect from a near death situation back in 1989. Western politicians at that time thinking this whole national white student movement would bring down the CCP. Because half million of the 10 million students are in this and the entire society of China supporting the students and asking demand for political reform. But they surprisingly turned around and said, hey, we are the legitimate government again. They pulled that the same playbook again in the Nationalist Party. So that's why Chiang Kai Shek Nationalist Party didn't win China. CCP did. And guess what? How did they do that? How did they achieve the goal that I just said? Staple infiltration propaganda, fake news, which you called narrative war informational warfare aiming at shaping your reality. Okay, so this is why Chris mentioning why they create the fake story. Oh, there is a purpose and perfect purpose. And let me connect with you. What's happening in the United States right now. You are not pay attention. They excelled at this. Look at the first Trump term. What happened United States today have ever been infiltrated like this, like this severe by the CCP in your history of 250 years. Look at your media, look at your legal system. Look at your intel community. Look at Wall Street. Look at your economic sector. Just like the infiltrated Nationalist Party, the highest level, you know, the closest secretary, the personal assistant of Chiang Kai Shek is a member of the ccp. Okay? This is how they took Nationalist Party. That's how they sold the division. Feeling the hatred. Okay, so this is in the Trump term who they hate the most. We shared with Warren Posse the other day. The CCP hates you. They hate President Trump, they hate Peter Navarro, Rudy Giuliani and Miles School the most. But they have very successfully turning their most hated individuals into those individuals of the most hated. For who? For Biden, Hunter Biden and those extreme Democrats. So now if Biden or Hunter Biden is calling Xi Jinping, Xi Jinping is going to answer the phone so enthusiastically and cheerfully.
Steve Bannon
Why?
Eva
Because under Biden regime you had imported over 10 million refugees. Okay? Illegal Immigrants. Think about the discord that's going to sow. Think about the division that's going to create. Think about the hatred, the tension, the divide that's going to create. And you're still dealing with the aftermath. You are catching up. And they managed to send four of you, almost all of you, the name that I just named out into jail. Like you stayed four months in jail. Peter Navarro did too. And look at Giuliani. And look at my own school. He is still in jail today. They almost knocked down Trump. But look at the second term. Did we learn? Did American learn? Did MAGA learn? So we can tell you, CCP right now is orchestrating a global drama aiming at turning the us, Europe and the rest of the world hating Trump. They're making great progress. The same playbook they did decades ago. They're playing it again. And look at what they're doing behind the scenes. The other day I showed you the never new propaganda video that CCP did and you commented on the black hands of arts, right? They're black arts artists of the ccp. What the message they're sending to the world. They're calling Trump bullying. They play a victim role. They're saying Trump is the guy that destroyed the World Trade Order unilaterally. Okay? They're calling Trump as disruptive and dictator in tyranny. And they're saying all of you, Rubio, the new administration person, are anti China just like they did back in 1989. They tell that the students are anti China. The foreign forces behind the students are anti China. They are meantime infiltrating you all over the place.
Steve Bannon
Eva, hang on for one second. We're taking a short commercial break. Ladies and gentlemen, that might be the most brilliant seven or eight minute assessment that when you think about what you just said makes so much sense. How did a group of bandits have China turned over to them by the State Department? How did they then convince the Chinese army of Komang Tong to go to Korea with no weapons? How have they always done it? It's always by infiltration, control of the narrative, subversion. The same subversion you have in this country today. Short break. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the ccp. You've heard me talk about Patriot Mobile for a while now. You probably know that for years they've stood in the gap for every American who believes in faith, family and freedom. So here's the question. Have you switched to Patriot Mobile yet? You'll get exceptional nationwide coverage because unlike most Cell phone service providers. Patriot mobile utilizes all three major U.S. networks. Switch today without sacrificing quality or service. They even add two numbers on two networks on one phone. Let me repeat. They can even add two numbers on two networks on one phone. It's like you're carrying two phones in one. They have unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming, Internet on the go devices and Internet backup. Switching is easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Their 100% US based team can activate you in minutes. Best of all, switching to Patriot Mobile supports your values. If you believe in our first amendment and second amendment rights, the sanctity of life, supporting our veterans and first responders, this is where you belong right now. Go to patriotmobile.com Bannon or call 972-patriot. Get a free month of service with promo code Bannon. So if you call in, tell em Bannon also switch today. That's patriotmobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you so much.
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Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Roy, give me, give me a minute on getter. Roy, Ava and Forrest going to join me at 5 o' clock. Also Natalie Winters are going to be here. We got a lot to go through. Lot of breaking news already. Boom, boom, boom on the big beautiful Bill Elon, what's happening and of course the third world war and the mullahs, all of it. Charlie Kirk's at noon, posos at 2. Don't miss poso. We've got gruber at 3, Eric Bolling at 4. I will do a hard handover from Bolling, then we're back here at five o' clock and then at six I'm gonna get Ben Harnwell. He haven't had enough time the last couple days. Give me a minute on. By the way, Michael and Dell can't join us today because guess what? Mike Lindell was texting in the middle of his trial yesterday. I think the judge said that's a bozo. No, no. So we don't know Michael and currently under. I don't know something. Mike, you got to watch out there when you're in court in a federal court. I'm not so sure you can be texting reporters during the trial. Roy, I got about 60 seconds walk. How do people get together the great social media site that I'm putting up all my content on, sir, people can.
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Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room – Episode 4535: End Of The Rules Based International World Order
Release Date: June 4, 2025
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Description: In this episode, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into the dismantling of the international rules-based order, examining the roles of key global players, the influence of the deep state, and the shifting economic power dynamics spearheaded by the BRICS nations. Expert guests contribute insights into the ongoing conflicts, intelligence community operations, and the strategic maneuvers reshaping global geopolitics.
Steve Bannon (00:02):
Bannon opens the discussion by expressing frustration with mainstream media and the perceived betrayal by influential networks. He states, “This is the primal scream of a dying regime… the people have had a belly full of it” (00:02).
Steve Bannon (00:50):
Bannon introduces the topic of Operation Spiderweb, a covert operation allegedly orchestrated without the President’s knowledge. He questions the integrity of intelligence agencies, stating, “Zero probability those guys could pull it off without that” (02:15).
Jack Posobiec (04:25):
Posobiec adds that elements within the U.S. Intelligence Community were aware of Operation Spiderweb and deliberately concealed it from the highest levels of government. He asserts, “They hid it from the President of the United States and the White House upper echelons” (04:25).
Steve Bannon (06:11):
Bannon elaborates on his belief that the deep state is not rogue but operating under a long-term plan to undermine President Trump’s administration. He claims, “This is the plan. This is the way it rolls” (06:11).
Stephen K. Bannon (12:37):
Stephen emphasizes the high stakes involved, suggesting that successful peace talks led by Trump could end the neoliberal world order. He warns, “They don't care how many people have to die… they will hold onto it with bloody fingers” (12:37).
Steve Bannon (16:33):
Discussing the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, Bannon criticizes the involvement of Western intelligence and suggests that China is manipulating the situation. He states, “We have sources telling you that the deep state operatives… are part of this assault on the Russian people” (16:33).
Captain Fennell (24:33):
Captain Fennell raises concerns about the coordination between Zelensky and U.S. intelligence agencies, questioning the President’s awareness of such operations. He remarks, “If he didn’t know, why didn’t he know? And how is it possible that something like this could happen?” (24:33).
Steve Bannon (22:33):
Briefly mentions the upcoming BRICS summit in Rio de Janeiro, highlighting its significance in challenging the dominance of the U.S. dollar. Although details are limited due to ad breaks, the implication is that BRICS is poised to alter the global economic landscape significantly (22:48).
Jack Posobiec (30:09):
Posobiec discusses how the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) effectively suppresses negative narratives and controls information dissemination. He notes, “The suppression of, of narrative… is part of the information warfare” (30:09).
Eva (35:41):
Eva delves into the historical tactics of the CCP, comparing their rise to power with historical events such as the June Fourth Incident. She emphasizes the CCP’s use of propaganda and division to maintain control, stating, “Nothing more than so does court create division and fueling the hatred” (35:41).
Stephen K. Bannon (33:22):
Stephen highlights the need for the U.S. to recognize and counteract the CCP's influence both domestically and internationally. He warns of the CCP orchestrating global dramas to undermine leaders like Trump and reshape global perceptions (33:22).
Captain Fennell (26:44):
Fennell underscores the discrepancy between President Trump’s campaign promises to end perpetual wars and the ongoing military engagements influenced by intelligence agencies. He questions the alignment of current actions with the electorate’s wishes (26:44).
Steve Bannon (45:39):
In his closing remarks, Bannon stresses the inevitability of significant global changes, referring to the current period as a "fourth turning" characterized by rapid and turbulent transformations. He advises listeners to prepare by understanding and investing in precious metals as a hedge against instability (45:39).
Stephen K. Bannon (48:19):
Stephen adds that the fight against manipulation and control requires vigilance and initiative from the American populace, emphasizing self-reliance and proactive measures to safeguard national and personal interests (48:19).
Steve Bannon (00:02):
“This is the primal scream of a dying regime… the people have had a belly full of it.”
Stephen K. Bannon (12:37):
“They don't care how many people have to die… they will hold onto it with bloody fingers.”
Jack Posobiec (30:09):
“The suppression of, of narrative… is part of the information warfare.”
Eva (35:41):
“Nothing more than so does court create division and fueling the hatred.”
Deteriorating International Order: The episode centers on the collapse of the established rules-based international system, driven by aggressive actions from authoritarian regimes and the strategic maneuvers of intelligence agencies.
Deep State Influence: A significant portion of the discussion critiques the deep state’s role in undermining presidential leadership, particularly the efforts to derail peace initiatives in Ukraine through covert operations like Operation Spiderweb.
China’s Global Strategy: The CCP’s sophisticated information warfare and economic strategies, including the BRICS-led Rio Reset, are highlighted as pivotal factors in shifting global power dynamics away from the United States.
Media Complicity and Narrative Control: The podcast underscores how mainstream media and entertainment industries perpetuate pro-CCP narratives, suppressing truth and shaping public perception to favor authoritarian agendas.
Call to Action: The hosts urge listeners to remain vigilant, support alternative media platforms, and invest in assets like precious metals to protect against the anticipated economic and geopolitical instability.
Episode 4535 of Bannon's War Room presents a compelling narrative about the erosion of the international rules-based order through the coordinated efforts of deep state actors and authoritarian regimes. By dissecting intricate geopolitical strategies and highlighting the manipulation of information and media, the episode calls for heightened awareness and proactive measures among listeners to navigate the impending global transformations.
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