
Episode 4554: Truth Behind Chinese Deal; ICE Deportations Continue Across The Country ...
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Nicole Wallace
Sense, if they want to enable his grand plan, which is to. To assess more to mass, more power and to have control of everything in this country.
Paul Begala
But why would governors want to turn.
Matt Boyle
Over control of their states to the United States?
Nicole Wallace
Because they're complicit. I mean, these are people who are on board with the entire plan. I mean, Huckabee's perfect. I mean, imagine if Tommy Tuberville gets elected in Alabama.
Stephen K. Bannon
This is all the pieces that have.
Nicole Wallace
Been put in place so this stuff can start to unfold. Gavin Newsom can try like hell to.
Stephen K. Bannon
Push back, but I don't know if he could stop him.
Nicole Wallace
I mean, he's going to try to sue him and say it's illegal, but he's going to invoke Title 10. He can invoke the Insurrection Act. I think maybe more importantly, Nicole, there's kind of a failure of imagination in America right now. And we had that same problem before January six. And this weekend, we've got a military.
Stephen K. Bannon
Parade happening in Washington.
Nicole Wallace
What happens if Trump doesn't want to make them leave after the parade? What if he says, let's just keep them there because I feel unsafe? The Capitol is unsafe. We're worried about protesters. These are the kinds of most dangerous course of action we have to think about. And as Americans and especially national leaders, have to challenge them on not just what's happening now, but what's happening next. Will you promise, do you assure us that those troops are going to leave after the parade? Are you going to find a reason to keep them there?
Paul Begala
I also worry about unit cohesion, the politics of this seeping into the American military a little bit. This could become a flashpoint within it. It could cause all sorts of internal friction and unrest. And it also breaks some of the bonds between the US Military and the American people. I mean, think about it. Since Vietnam, the milit, in some ways, has become the most successful institution in American society. And what we are doing, in some ways, I would argue, is putting it at risk by asking it to take on an enormous domestic mission, which is not essentially what it is trained for. And, you know, ultimately, this is going to bring forth fundamental constitutional issues and political issues in this country.
Katie Bo Lillis
Morning.
Paul Begala
As you just mentioned, police say at.
Katie Bo Lillis
Least eight NYPD cruisers were damaged, some burned more severely than others.
Paul Begala
Behind us, you can see the parking lot in question.
Katie Bo Lillis
They were all located inside this NYPD.
Nicole Wallace
Lot when someone walked in past the.
Katie Bo Lillis
Gate somehow and lit this fire without getting noticed. You can see the back corner of the lot engulfed and smoke billowing into the sky as firefighters arrived to extinguish the flames. Police say this act of arson started around 1:20 Thursday morning near the corner.
Nicole Wallace
Of Central and DeKalb Avenue that was.
Katie Bo Lillis
Parked full of police cruisers and vans. Some were damaged beyond recognition. Detectives were here for several hours. They are still sorting through the mangled remains, trying to process the evidence to find out who did this.
Paul Begala
Fortunately, no one was injured.
Nicole Wallace
Again, the investigation is still active at this time.
Katie Bo Lillis
We just saw a few moments ago investigators from the fire marshal's office arrive here to begin their investigation. But that is the latest.
Nicole Wallace
These governors, they're not interested in being governors.
Paul Begala
They're interested in being regional arms of Donald Trump's power.
Nicole Wallace
And that's the problem.
Paul Begala
I mean, we keep thinking as though.
Nicole Wallace
These are normal politics.
Paul Begala
They have every vested interest, interest in.
Nicole Wallace
Saying my state is out of control.
Paul Begala
Because not because I can't govern it.
Nicole Wallace
But because these foreign invaders are here.
Paul Begala
And that's why I need the president's help to suppress democracy, suppress dissent, suppress protests in my state. And I'll be kind of a junior.
Nicole Wallace
Partner out here in Texas or Alabama.
Paul Begala
Look, if Sarah Pahakabee Sanders thinks her.
Nicole Wallace
State'S under siege, she can mobilize the National Guard tomorrow.
Paul Begala
She doesn't have to wait for Donald Trump. She's the governor. They can all do that. They want to be part of a bigger. I think Paul's right. A bigger plan to centralize power in the executive, perhaps the most unconservative thing that conservative former conservatives are now trying to do. So I think, you know, people better get past this failure of imagination. And I think the Democrats, when you ask Paul, what can anybody do? Well, I think, for one thing, you.
Nicole Wallace
Know, to stand up every day and say, this is not normal. This is not going to be allowed. We're not going to have business as usual.
Paul Begala
It's time to think about what levers of government are available to the people who are trying to stop this. But the problem is that the Constitution.
Nicole Wallace
And Article 2 of the Constitution was.
Paul Begala
Not designed to stop a rogue president.
Nicole Wallace
The machinery of our government wasn't meant.
Paul Begala
To deal with this. You know, I'm here today not to tell people everything is going to be okay, but to sound a really loud alarm, which is that Donald Trump has turned the Department of Justice into his personal legal task force to go after his political opponents. Think about the norms that have already been violated. Pam Bondi, an election denier put in charge of the Department of Justice. She does. She views herself as part of Team Trump she hangs out in the Oval Office. She does live shots from the White House. Completely unprecedented. Donald Trump goes the Department of Justice to give speeches in which he attacks lawyers like me and others by name. We have seen the Department of Justice go after his political opponents directly. A Democratic member of Congress in New Jersey that he's reportedly investigating the Attorney Democratic Attorney General of New York. I mentioned in that piece that he arrested a prominent labor leader. He's also indicted a liberal judge in Wisconsin. Also remember that his administration sent federal officials into a Democratic congressman's office in New York and put a staffer in handcuffs. This is the playbook by which authoritarians are able to subdue their opposition by investigating them, indicting them, and even if they get acquitted, you know, the damage is done. Why are people staying silent? I think they are afraid. I think that they have normalized this. But Nicole, it's got to end. People need to take a stand and say we are not going to allow the misuse of the criminal justice system, the indictment process by Donald Trump in this way.
Nicole Wallace
President Trump says the US Is pulling some diplomats and military families out of the Middle east because, as he put it, it could be a dangerous place. We're learning the State and Defense Departments will move out non essential personnel from spots around the region amid the Israel, Iran tensions. CNN senior reporter Katie Bo Lillis joining us now. The president saying it could be a dangerous place is a very vague reason. Is there any indication that there is a more threat here? Yeah, Sarah, where we are right now is that we don't know whether or not this move was prompted by specific intelligence that suggested a specific risk or whether this was done out of an abundance of caution. We do know that this is happening against the backdrop of a moment of profound tension in between Iran, Israel and the United States. The U.S. of course, is engaged in ongoing negotiations with Iran over trying to create a new nuclear deal to prevent Iran from ever obtaining a nuclear weapon. Though those talks have really struggled to make progress in large part because the two sides are divided over whether Iran should be able to conduct any enrichment of uranium, even for, as Iran claims, civil purposes for civil nuclear power purposes. As those talks have sort of struggled along in the background. We have reported in the past that Israel really sees this as a generational opportunity to strike Iran's nuclear capabilities. Iran's air defenses were severely weakened by the kind of tit for tat hat attacks back and forth between Iran and Israel last year. And Israel believes that now is potentially the moment to strike Iran's nuclear capabilities and potentially destroy them once and for all. Now, President Trump here in the United States has been urging Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to allow negotiations to go forward, to not take this step. But U.S. intelligence officials believe, as we have reported, that it's possible that Israel could act without the permission of of the United States. And so really just a moment of profound uncertainty and profound tension. And that is really kind of the backdrop to this move that you are seeing right now as we try to obtain more information about what has sparked this specific movement being the withdrawals of non essential personnel from diplomatic posts across the region. The risk here, Sarah, of course is that if there is some kind of conflagration in between Israel and Iran, that it could spiral into a broader regional conflict that could endanger U.S. personnel across the region.
Paul Begala
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people is not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Paul Begala
It's Thursday, July the twelfth of July, year of our Lord 2025. The third world war is raging throughout the world. From New York City to Los Angeles, the streets of Ukraine. Major British newspaper has a brutal article up this morning that Putin's the Russian casualties have have gone over 1 million by themselves. 628,000 since election day 2024. 628,000 captured, killed and wounded in the Russian army since election day. Very disturbing news. Well, we're going to get to everything about the revolt in the streets. Matt Boyle, the senior editor for all things politics, national political editor at Breitbart, very close to the White House, very close to President Trump joins us. Matt, thank you. I know your travel schedule is pretty intense now. Thank you for making time to do this. I wanted to get you on here. Kurt Mills is going to join us tonight. Kurt is currently heading towards Constantinople where he'll be in meetings for the next couple days. Couldn't make the morning show. He's got a great tweet out about this confusing situation about what is happening with Israel and Persia in the nuclear program that President Trump, I think, is negotiating. And last time I looked, Steve Wykoff has a meeting, I think, in Muscat, the capital of Oman, on Saturday. Matt, you've got a great tweet out about the, your concern over this. What in the hell is going on right now, sir?
Matt Boyle
Yeah, look, President Trump faces his, the most monumental decision of his presidency. Steve, the fact is, is that President Trump was elected to be the peace president. And any, any attack on Iran, whether it comes from Israel or the United States or, you know, they try to say Israel is going along. There is none of that.
Paul Begala
Right.
Matt Boyle
Like it's going to be seen as though the United States greenlight an attack from Israel. That doesn't mean that we don't like Israel. Israel is our greatest ally in the Middle East. There's no doubt about it. But the fact is, is that, and because of that, that's why you would see any attack from Iran, from Israel on Iran would be viewed as though the United States. Greenland. So the point is, though, is that the president is pursuing diplomacy. As you mentioned, Steve Wykoff has his next meeting with the Iranians coming up literally this Sunday. But at the, on the pure politics of it back here at home domestically, look, I've been down in South Carolina right now because I'm going to be doing an event tonight with some great conservatives here in Charleston, South Carolina, and it's starting to rain a little bit right now outside while I'm doing this. We're doing this on the fly because it's so important. But the fact is, is that the, if the, if this happens, if this goes forward, I believe that there would be grave political consequences for President Trump's coalition. I don't think there's anything that could split the successes of what President Trump has had so far. More than the escalation or a new war opening up somewhere in the world. The president has to figure out a way to get to de escalate and to get us away from this. And I mean literally the fate of the world and the fate of his presidency and the fate of his political coalition depends on it. And so these are some monumental decisions that are happening right now in the West Wing, in the White House.
Paul Begala
Hang on for a second. But everything looks like we're telling personnel to leave the area, embassies and maybe even bases. You got Korrilla down at centcom is canceling his testimony today. What about if this is and I want to hold this through the break. Once you answer this question, what about if this is just unilateral Israel, if this is Bibi Netanyahu? I think it's been warned by President Trump. CNN reported on Monday that after the Sunday all day meeting at Camp David that President Trump had warned Bibi he wanted number one, Gaza wrapped up as quickly as possible, like get on with it and wrap this thing up. Number two, that he did not support and did not want any type of military activity, either airborne troops, infantry or particularly bombing around the Persian nuclear facilities because he was still negotiating a deal. I want your answer when you get back because I think is this not Israel forcing his hand and saying we're going to do it, we're going to go in alone. Their air defenses are down, they're the weakest. We've taken care of Hezbollah up in Syria. We've basically crushed or quasi crushed the Muslim Brotherhood's Hamas in Gaza. We're kind of on a roll right now. We've taken down the air defenses of the Persians. We want to get it on. And I agree with you, this would rent asunder, particularly with the war in the streets in Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, the long hot summer before us. Short commercial break we got Matt Boyle, Ben Berkhom's with ICE in the heartland of the country. All next, only in the war room. This July there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. The block of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Persia are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio Reset. As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US dollars will decrease bringing down the value of the dollar in your savings. While this transition won't not happen overnight, but trust me, it's going to start in Rio. The Rio Reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality. Learn if diversifying your savings into gold is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard earned savings into a tax sheltered IRA and precious metals. Claim your free info kit on gold by texting my name Bannon. That's B A N N O N to 989-898 with an A plus rating with the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers. Let Birchgold army with a free no obligation info kit on owning gold before July and the Rio reset. Text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898. Do it today. That's the Rio reset. Text Bannon at 989-898 and do it today. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, Dave, Brett's with me. Also. Lindell's going to join us in a moment. Moment from, from Denver, want to go back to Matt Bowell down in South Carolina, the national political editor for Breitbart. Matt, here's what we got. We just leaked this morning is that the Chinese are saying that the deal struck in or the framework struck in London, that the rare earth availability, particularly magnets for American production is only six months. We know that the Russians and the Ukrainians continue to slug it out with casualties now reaching 2 million for both sides. I think the Ukrainians are already at 650 or 675,000. Russians admitted now they're over a million. So you're reaching 2 million in Ukraine. Gaza's not finished. On the streets of the United States, we obviously have a very well organized revolt on our hands. We have 10 million illegal alien invaders just here on Biden's watch, which to me should be the priority to get all 10 million of those out ASAP. We're looking at a long hot summer. I'm even talking about the bills before Congress, the cutting of the budget, everything we got all these monumental things we have to do, the fights in the courts and now one of our quote unquote allies is talking about what I'm hearing is a unilateral, a unilateral strike. Now, Matt Boyle, if Zelensky and the White House has said, hey, we didn't know anything about Zelensky's hit, if Zelenskyy could go in and take out part of the strategic triad in Russia, something Curtis LeMay and the American Air Force could never even dream of, why can't Bibi just get him on the tarmac and let him roll, brother?
Matt Boyle
Well, look, I think that what you just laid out there from a big picture is that President Trump, part of the reason why he was elected, part of the reason why he won the Republican primary in 2016, why he won it again in 2024 against all these other Republicans, and part of the reason why he won the general election both times is that he has ability to kind of cut through the nonsense, if you will. Right. Like and to see through the, the, the, the crap and get rid of the things that are not major priorities and get the nation focused. Obviously all of these things are major priorities. But how do you go about handling all of these different you know, we used to talk about it, Steve, like it's a 30 front war. Right? Like we're fighting a 30 front war.
Paul Begala
Yeah.
Matt Boyle
President Trump is somebody who has. Has been able to, over the course of his career, really drill down on the priority. So, I mean, at the end of the day, the Chinese are the. Are the existential threat. Okay. They are the greatest adversary in the United States. I think President Trump deeply understands that. I think the actions on Liberation Day and since then with regard to trade and tariffs, even dating back to before that with the steel and aluminum ones, all of this stuff is built up to going after them. The efforts by the president to get peace in places like Gaza and Ukraine are very focused on delivering, on getting rid of those distractions. Right. He views those as distractions to the bigger issue, which is China. Same thing with Iran.
Paul Begala
Right.
Matt Boyle
Like, so this is why any strike on Iran would be a distraction, if you will. Right. It would be an extra distraction added into the broader equation. And I think it's important that President Trump is able to focus here because China is the threat. China is the issue. You want to know why all the factories are shut down in the Middle east, in the Midwest, in our heartland? Why are the jobs leaving the United States? Why are all of these problems? Why is the fentanyl here?
Nicole Wallace
Right.
Matt Boyle
Like why is the fentanyl here? It all comes from China, right? Like so. The fact is, is that China, not to mention what they did with COVID right? Like so. The fact is that the efforts of the Chinese Communist Party to destroy Western civilization and to spread their malign influence worldwide needs to remain the focus.
Paul Begala
I 100% agree with you, but here's my beef with this whole thing in Persia. We're not following. Before you go up the escalatory ladder or allow an ally or look the other way, which on a hit, unilateral hit by the Israelis, is going to drag us into a broader war. You have to go up the escalatory ladder in economic warfare. We're not anywhere near where we were on the sanctions of shutting these guys down like we were in the first Trump term. Number two, to draw linkage to your absolutely correct existential to China, The Mullahs ship 1.6 to 2 and a half million barrels a day out of Iran to the Chinese Communist Party. It's 22% of the Chinese Communist Party's fuel. If we blockaded or just told them, you're not sending more oil until you dis. Until you deconstruct your nuclear power program, the Mullahs would collapse in 100 days. Why are we, why are we failing to focus on economic warfare and allow the Israelis right now, I think, to even ponder a airstrike? Because, correct me if I'm wrong, and I don't know what the intelligence community is doing. I don't know what the CIA is doing. I don't know what they did in Ukraine. We haven't heard any. They didn't have any involvement. They either didn't have any involvement or they didn't know it. Both of them are damning. Right. And I don't know what they're doing here in, in, in Persia, but they ought to be all over this oil. Why are we not making the linkage between economic warfare against the mullahs and bringing them down and, and, and, and using that to deconstruct their nuclear power program without getting into another, yet another shooting war in the Middle East? Sir.
Nicole Wallace
Right.
Matt Boyle
Well, this is why I think the heat is really on, particularly Director Ratcliffe here at the CIA and also Tulsi Gabbard at the office Director of National Intelligence. The president should summon both of them to the Oval Office immediately and demand any and all intelligence that they have and also press them for answers on whatever they, they don't have. Right. Like. And ask some great questions. Again, this is why President Trump was elected.
Paul Begala
Right.
Matt Boyle
Like, his ability to see through and cut through the nonsense and get to the source of the issue. He sees things differently than a lot of other people in politics do. And I think that this is a moment, again, perhaps the most monumental moment of his presidency so far, where he needs to really focus here and drill down again. Getting into another hot shooting war would be terrible. In addition to that, I think the president, you know, he. Well, again, Israel is our greatest ally in the Middle East. You know, you clearly have somebody in. Benjamin Netanyahu is very focused on trying to do what he's going to do. The whole world is not going to see it that way, given the fact that Israel is our greatest ally. Yeah, but so even if Netanyahu goes.
Paul Begala
Out there, the tail can't wag the dog. Part of the thing of funding their arms and protect them is that, hey, you don't have the choice of being unilateral. That's not an option because you're going to drag us in. If you want to see the streets of this country, you think it's exploded over Gaza, these universities, go bomb Tehran, go bomb Persia right now. An ancient civilization. See what happens on the streets because you're going to give those people ammunition and say, see, look, the warmongers, they're hitting it again. Particularly when you have not used all the tools in the toolbox economically to bring down this regime. Now, you know the politics of MAGA better than anybody. What would this do if this bombing took place unilaterally by the. By the Israelis, let's say, President Trump, the administration said, hey, we had nothing to do with this. What would that do, sir? Particularly, is the Iranians immediately going to hit back in Iraq? They're going to hit back our bases. They're going to try to take some American casualties. What is that going to do to the MAGA movement politically, sir?
Matt Boyle
It will fracture it hopelessly. And frankly, what would happen is, is that the other side, the radical left, the Democrats, et cetera, and even some of the establishment Republicans out there would go out and say, see, look, we told you Trump's a fraud. Right? Like, that's what they'd try to argue, right? Trump campaigned as a peace president, but as soon as he got. Then war broke out. Right? Like, and that's what they're going to try to do. They're going to try to argue that the ideas that President Trump campaigned on over the last decade, really, because, you know, dating back to 2014, 2015, when he really first started getting out there and campaigning on peace, they're going to try to argue that he's a fraud. Right? Like, and so it's up to President Trump to. Yeah, it's up to President Trump to stop us.
Paul Begala
So you're in South Carolina. The biggest cheerleader of the Forever War is Lindsey Graham. He's been over in Ukraine stirring it up there. Right. He knew something. He and Pompeo knew something was happening. You could see the way he was prancing around. He's the biggest cheerleader for the Israelis going in, doing something unilateral. Right now, he and Tom Cotton and others, you would basically expose the fact that you haven't changed, really, you haven't stopped the Forever War faction in the Senate and the House and the donor class still have the power, would it not, sir?
Matt Boyle
Yeah, no, that's exactly right. Look, I interviewed Senator Rand Paul about this a couple of weeks ago. Right. Like, and I know he's got issues on the big beautiful bill, and we'll see how that comes out. But the on the war question, Rand has been the leading voice on this dating back, you know, 15 years. And the one of the things he mentioned to me was the hearts and minds of the public are with President Trump and with him against these forever wars. But there are still neocon contingents inside the halls of power in the US Senate and the intelligence agencies and the official Washington, if you will, that are trying to undermine what President Trump was elected to do. So I think it's incredibly important that President Trump resist the pressures from these people. He needs to trust his instincts. His instincts, his gut is why he was elected. It's why he. That's his best barometer here. Right. If he trusts his gut, I think we're going to be okay here. President Trump's instincts have always proven to be right. So he needs to focus very much so and resist pressures from neocons and globalists to allow another war to break out on the world stage.
Paul Begala
Okay, you're in South Carolina. Your event is going to be. Can we stream it? What's happening DC right now?
Matt Boyle
No, it's, I've done this event every year. It's an off the record gathering of conservatives. About 200, 250 folks in Charleston. Once a month or so they get together. It's called the Charleston Meeting. On it's a great little event. They bring in conservative journalists and whatnot. And so and then we'll get up and talk to the crowd, we'll take questions from them. But there's no live stream, so if you want to see it, you got to come in person. So I said meeting you look up where to go and we'll figure it out.
Paul Begala
Yep, the Charleston meeting. Brother, thank you so much. I know the pages of Breitbart are going to be all over this. You're absolutely correct. Particularly CIA. I think what we need is more political appointees to go over there. Just expand it. Can't do it. Two people with Ratcliffe and Ellis, as good as they are good, they are good men. But man, that is a festering group of snakes over there. Matt Ball, social media, where they go to get all your content at Breitbart, sir.
Matt Boyle
Just go to Breitbart.com and Boyle1 on.
Paul Begala
Axe Twitter and you got the Syria. You got the morning show on SiriusXM on Saturdays.
Matt Boyle
On Saturday mornings. Yep. So 10, 10am to 1pm on Saturday, 10am to one.
Paul Begala
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, that's their opinion. But everybody, this is what this whole case is. There's. This is about free speech. This is about lawfare. This is about our election platforms. This is it. It's all come down to this four years where they have attacked me and many others to keep this truth from coming out. And the media right now, that's all they're covering. They're coming there. It's attack, attack. You're not going to see this on Fox and Newsmax and Salem Media, they're afraid to talk about because they were all sued. That's what this is all about. We are the only ones that have come all the way to jury trial. I've been here three weeks, every day, every day getting on there. And it's like, you know, if we, if we lose this, Steve, I really believe it's, you know, anyone could get sued anytime with talking about anything that they decide that we don't want to hear from you. I believe God willing and, and everybody is. All the prayers out there. I believe it's going to be a good ruling. I really do. And it's like the jury, today's the last day of the trial. Everybody that goes to jury tomorrow. And I'll tell you, we couldn't have gotten through with all your, all your.
Paul Begala
Testimony, all your test. Your testimony is over. No more testimony from you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, three days. I had three days on that stand.
Paul Begala
And closing state closing statements will be this afternoon or tomorrow morning.
Stephen K. Bannon
The judge wasn't sure of that because there's a couple more coming up this morning and a couple more witnesses. And then I believe it's this afternoon, but it could be tomorrow morning. I know she really. They really want to get it to the jury before the weekend.
Paul Begala
Okay. Well, well. And the jury's not impounded, so they'll. They'll take the weekend off if they get it tomorrow, though if they don't rule by close of business, they'll. They'll come back on Monday. Is that the plan?
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah.
Paul Begala
Okay.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, that would be. That would be the plan. And. Yeah. But I'll tell you, Stephen, I want to get on here and tell the war room posse. I can't thank you enough for all your prayers and your support of my pillow. That's a whole nother thing. You know, suing my pillow and my employee owned. That's like a whole nother thing over here. You don't think that was law fair for anyone else in this country? Boy, if you speak out about the 2020 election will destroy your business. But you guys at the War room Posse have come through and we want to come through with you for keeping that sale going with the Giza Dream Sheets 4998. The media has even attacked me for giving. Giving this special promo code. War room 4998. As many as you want. We're taking our warehouse wholesale prices and war room exclusive. Any size, any color. And you guys k one of these. There's some left of the free MyPillow 2.0 is. You're going to be exclusive. Going to say I was part of that back then because this trial is so important. It is the trial of entry and you get it free with any purchase. If you guys go to the website today, we need to break some records. We need the resources right now. Not just it doesn't end tomorrow, it doesn't end this week. You all know I will not stop till we secure our election. So if you get the my crosses, the buy pillows, the premiums where we sold over 84 million around sale. 2495 for the king size. You got the classics on sale and you guys made the main, the USA, all our beds and mattress toppers are 100%. These are USA employees. Get them now on sale. Call 800-873-1062. Tell my employees you got their back and they. And they know what they love hearing from the war Room policy. Promo code War room. Steve, I can't thank you enough. And we are going to. I really believe we're going to win this and it'll be the gateway to securing our free speech, our elections and all, and maybe get rid of lawfare once and for all in our country.
Paul Begala
We would love to put it up into the face of the jackals that are covering this for the mainstream media out there. Mike. So let's. Let's run through the tape and power through this. Sir, thank you so much and thank you for the specials for the Warren Posse. These guys love you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, thank you. Thank you.
Paul Begala
God bless you, Michael And Dell's put it all in out there. Put the company on the line to fight for the stolen election of 2020 in election platforms. Also paper ballots, same day voting. Let's go ahead. We got a cold open for Ben Berkwan. Ben is in Indianapolis, Indiana with ice. Let's go and play it. And we'll bring Ben. So this.
Nicole Wallace
You know how many of this is.
Paul Begala
We have some stages that came out. Yeah. So there's the stages that we'd be going to different locations through. This is kind of you know we try to bring everybody here and they have to go to a different detention facility. Facility.
Nicole Wallace
Then they'll go there or some people come, will come in here to be ready for removal.
Paul Begala
We send them to you know up north of Chicago for removal over to Kansas City. So that might happen as well.
Matt Boyle
But most of these are going to be arrests.
Nicole Wallace
This is pretty incredible. I, I wasn't expecting this many people.
Paul Begala
In.
Nicole Wallace
Well and this is really like I said, Indianapolis is one of our.
Paul Begala
Busiest offices that we have.
Nicole Wallace
This could be what a day looks like for our office. And is it all men or is there a separate area for women? But the majority, vast majority are male. I don't know what the percentage has been historically the percentage has been much higher for males.
Paul Begala
Okay Ben, you were there in the streets of la. We, we've recommended to the administration to double and triple down on ICE raids. Just go out there, give, give the, give the, the foreigners, the foreign nationals that are yelling about this and the progressives, give them something to whine about. You've been, you've been. And by the way Stephen Miller is saying is telling Chrissy no, we need 3,000 a day minimum. That gets us to a million a year. That's what's in the budget for the mass deportations for this year. We think it'll be much more but hey, we'll start with a million. Ben Berkwam, you've been doing these rides since first. I've been doing it for years. But you've really been doing them since President Trump came back to power. You seemed a little surprised about what's going on in Indianapolis. Why is that sir?
Nicole Wallace
Yeah, well because it's not talked about. You know this is heartland. A lot of the country calls it flyover country. But so everyone understands our borders, our open borders are every state, every city, everywhere in our country has been flooded by illegals. They were flooded by illegals under Joe Biden. Today I rode with ice. We started at 4:30 this morning. We had four targets, we got four hits. We got additional three collaterals which are people illegals that were with those other illegals that we caught along the way. And this is the difference Steve between a non sanctuary state like we see in Chicago just or a city like Chicago just three hours north of us and a, a non sanctuary city, a non sanctuary state down here in Indiana. That what was shocking to me is you know later on so you got to stay tuned for the rest of this footage. We got to blur a lot of it so we got A lot of editing to do, but the hearing from Sam Olson, the. The field office director of Chicago. This is like this every single day. These guys are pumping them through. And I'll just tell you this to the, to the Border Patrol and to the ICE officers across America. Talking to Sam Olson, resolve has never been stronger. The more they freak out, the more these cities burn, the more they attack them for doing their job, the stronger the resolve gets. These guys aren't backing down, they're increasing it. And that's what we're seeing here every single day. They're looking at adjusting tactics to make it easier to get more bodies in, to have more bed space, to get them out faster. And this is just one of those places. We're going to be taking this to cities across America. We're going to be showing you what the mainstream media doesn't want you to see. And I can't talk about where I'm going to be tomorrow. I'm actually heading up to Chicago this afternoon to cover some of the protests up there. But I can't tell you where I'm going to be tomorrow. But you're going to want to see it. It's going to be epic. You haven't seen it before, but this is just it. It's the flyover country. That is where it's happening.
Paul Begala
No, no. I want to go back to something you're saying. I need the audience to hear this. You're saying the resolve of the ICE officials and the DHS officials has never been stronger. They're not impacted at all by what's happening in the streets of LA or New York City last night or Dallas. They are. If we have their back, they're on this mission, Sir.
Nicole Wallace
Yes. These guys have the thickest skin you can imagine. They've been attacked and demonized for so long, it's almost. They almost feed on it now where you know, you want to come after them because they know who they are. They know what they are. They know what they're doing. They know why it's so incredibly important to the safety and security of our country. They are honored to uphold and defend that. The oath that they took to protect our Constitution, protect this nation from enemies foreign and specifically now domestic. They are on it. And that was one of the things I wanted to see. How is this affecting them? I got to tell you, they are pumped. They are going to continue doing their job and they want to do more and more. As you're hearing from Stephen Miller, President Trump, Tom Homan, more and more and.
Paul Begala
More if we, this is the most vital front. As important as Taiwan is vitally important, as important as getting the hell out of the Ukraine situation, as important of everybody laying down their guns in the, in the Middle east, this is the front of the war that we must win. Because I keep telling people, hey, a 10 million person invasion in four years. And by the way, there may be 40 or 50 million illegal aliens here. I think we just have to focus on the invasion part of this that came in the last four years. If we don't solve this and we don't have the political resolve to do this and get our sovereignty back, it doesn't matter what else you do, you're going to lose your sovereignty. Now my question is, in the long hot summer, we're looking at the merger of the radical jihadists with these neo Marxists and these foreign nationals trying to destroy a country. If we start, if we expand into a shooting war in Persia, sir, how is that going to play into what you're seeing in the streets of New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, etc. Etc. Etc.
Nicole Wallace
Well, you're just getting more fuel on the fire. All of these organizations, all of these, all of these leftist communist activist groups simply look for things to glom onto. And so every single thing that you can give them to make an excuse to be more violent, to attack more people, to make more excuses, to give the mainstream media more lies to tell, it just makes their job easier. So it's not good. It wouldn't be good. It's not going to be positive. But really all of this, Steve, comes down to ice's resolve is strong. It really comes down to the resolve of the people of America. Where is our resolve? How much are we willing to stand up for? How much are we willing to take to have these guys back to stand up for our country? But you're right, there's some exterior external forces that can make that job much harder.
Paul Begala
I'll tell you a good, good sign, Ben Berkwamp, one that you've struggled with now for years. Governor Abbott last night, who's a total wuss on this topic, called out the National Guard in Texas, in San Antonio, to make sure he had the back of what they're doing there in the deportation program. So that's a good sign that even some of these squishes are starting to get the word that we've got the resolve to do this and we must have the resolve to do this. Ben, where does everybody go for it? We're going to get you Back this afternoon. Where does everybody go to follow your content, sir.
Nicole Wallace
Wait till you see this. The piece we're putting together at Real America's Voice. It'll be on Real America's Voice Social first Ealam Voice on X and then mine. Frontline America. Ben Berkwam on social media and substack, Frontline America. It's. We got. It's epic. And it's just. Guys, it's just getting started. We've talked about this a long time, Steve. The fight is just getting started.
Paul Begala
Just started. Top of the first name. Thank you, brother. The convergence of crises. Ben Berkwan will join us. MTG is going to be with us this afternoon at the top of the five o' clock hour. Natalie Windows has got a bunch of explosive reports about who's financing this, who's in back of this, who's in back of the invasion of the United States and stopping the mass deportation efforts in our country. We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to be back in the war room in just a moment.
Nicole Wallace
We will fight till they're all gone.
Paul Begala
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Matt Boyle
Okay.
Paul Begala
On Saturday we're gonna do the regular morning war room, probably from the war room, where we are even speak in the afternoon starting at 4 o' clock. Real America's Voice in the War Room's coverage of the 250th anniversary of the birth of the United States Army. And this commemoration that we're having, the parade, all of it will start. The parade itself I think actually starts at about 6 or 6:30. We will be up at 4. We'll have all kind of guests. We'll have Ben Berkwum, Steve Gruber, David Zier, our entire crew. Natalie will be here. We'll be doing all of it. I think Mo will be with us. Jane Zirkel, we're going to figure all this out. Hopefully Grace Chung, if we can get her back here. If not, we'll zoom her in. The whole crew is going to be here in a day of commemoration and celebration and then there'll be the fireworks that night. But we will be live at least from starting at 4pm to probably 8pm for the parade, at least. And we'll figure it out as we go along. But 4pm so you get morning war room 10 to noon. Then you get a special edition with all the type coverage we did for the United States Military Academy in Arlington, Wellington and all of it. So you want to make sure, put that in your diary. It's going to be very special with tons of special guests. MTG tonight with me at 5 o' clock and others going to get a chance, go through some of the big beautiful built. Some of the trade deals are being cut. Obviously more on this military situation that seems to be, as I said, we're inexorably being drawn into the kinetic part of a third world war in the Eurasian landmark. We do not want that. We do not need that. And it doesn't need to happen, particularly with what's going on in the United States. Let me repeat the central front in this war right now as, as, as important as Taiwan and other places are and for the Israelis to settle, to get sorted on this Gaza situation with the Muslim Brotherhood as soon as possible. The most important right now for people in the United States is to get our sovereignty back. And that means deporting 10 million illegal aliens that came here during the illegitimate Biden regime. Regime. That has to happen. And it's not going to get easier. Every day is going to get harder. President Trump is doing the exact right thing of standing up the military to do this, to have the back of, to have the back of DHS and the ICE officers and Customs and border and all of it. This is why it's working and this is why the left's in a meltdown and have the audacity and the cold open for these guys that they're saying, you're ruining our military with this. This is a, this is a job that the military is, knows how to handle and is trained for. The progressive Democrats tried to ruin the military and came very close with all this DEI nonsense and crap to destroy the military. And I might add that as soon as Pete Hexis got in there under the guidance of President Trump, the army's already hitting, I think, the first four months of the year, their recruitment, which we hadn't hit in a couple of years.
Matt Boyle
Why?
Paul Begala
Because people want to join this army. They want to join the armed forces. Mothers and fathers feel comfortable with their kids going into the military now because it's got real leadership. Natalie Dominguez joins us now more than ever, you cannot allow your home title, 80% of your net worth, 90% of your net worth tied up in it. And if you want to get off the ramparts and not be an active part of this audience in blowing people up is to start worrying about a second mortgage that was taken out on your, on your, on your title in the middle of the night. The triple lock, $1 million protection stops that. What do you got for us, Natalie?
Katie Bo Lillis
Hi, Steve. Great to be with you guys in the war room as always. We got a new story hot off the presses. This came in a couple of days ago. Perfect example of what you're talking about. Right? We want the war room to be ready, you know, focused, not distracted by these things. A 47 year old man in Broward County, Florida, Armando Del Sols, facing felony charges after, you know, allegedly everything, is still in trial. Trying to steal a home from a grieving widow and her four children. This is really important. We see this all the time as these criminals are targeting, you know, the elderly and recently passed away. And the worst thing that could possibly happen during a time of grief and dealing with all the aftermath of a death is to also have to worry about criminals going off to your home. Police said that the Broward county property Appraiser's office was actually notified of the ownership change. And they're the ones that actually kind of found this and notified their crimes against property unit because they had noticed some discrepancies in the new deed, which was executed and recorded in October of 2024, two months after the owner had already passed away. Something to note that's so important is this wasn't the county clerk's office. This wasn't the person taking in and recording the document. This is after it had already changed hands, likely multiple times. And the appraiser's office was the one that had found it. During the investigation afterwards, they found that the family didn't know who this was. This was a complete stranger. And the notary that was identified on, on the notary stamp that was used also confirmed that they did not know this person. They had never notarized the deed. They had no record of it. So this person just came in. And again, we see this all the time with criminals. They will target, you know, obituaries recently deceased because they find that homeowners are distracted. And I think, you know what I'm going to say, Steve, the scariest part about all this, no authentication at the county clerk's office, no identity, identity verification of the owner, nothing until six months after when a different department kind of found an issue. And the only reason that Broward county even has a task force is because this is so bad in Florida. And Florida, California, Texas, New York, Tennessee are like the most major hotbeds for this. But not every state has a task force. Not every county has, you know, notification systems or anything. It's less than 10% that even have the them. And again. And then now that they found the fraud, who's going to go through the restoration process with the homeowner? Because they're still going to have to go to court and get all of this taken care of. We would have notified the homeowner when it was filed back in October and immediately before it got to this point.
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Title: Truth Behind Chinese Deal; ICE Deportations Continue Across The Country
Release Date: June 12, 2025
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Description: WAR ROOM: Pandemic is the first and most comprehensive program delivering up-to-the-minute news coverage. Stephen K. Bannon engages medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and frontline responders to provide insider insights on the latest developments.
The episode opens with a heated discussion about the increasing centralization of power within the United States. Nicole Wallace expresses concern over governors acting as extensions of President Trump’s authority, potentially undermining state sovereignty.
Nicole Wallace (00:00-03:12): Highlights how governors are complicit in President Trump’s agenda to consolidate power, stating, “These are people who are on board with the entire plan... Gavin Newsom can try like hell to push back, but I don't know if he could stop him” (00:20).
Paul Begala (01:08-04:14): Raises constitutional concerns, noting, “The Constitution... was not designed to stop a rogue president” (04:14). He warns of the misuse of the Department of Justice as Trump allegedly targets political opponents, emphasizing the erosion of democratic norms.
The conversation shifts to the ongoing ICE deportations across the country, with testimonies from Ben Berkwam and reports from Indianapolis.
Nicole Wallace (35:57-43:42): Describes intense ICE operations in Indianapolis, stating, “These guys are pumping them through... They are pumped. They are going to continue doing their job and they want to do more and more” (36:20). Emphasizes the resilience and determination of ICE officials despite public demonization.
Ben Berkwam (36:01-43:42): Shares firsthand experiences from the frontlines, highlighting the efficiency and resolve of ICE in executing mass deportations. He underscores the importance of federal support, stating, “These guys have the thickest skin you can imagine... they are honored to uphold and defend that oath” (39:21).
A significant portion of the episode delves into escalating international tensions, particularly between the U.S., Israel, Iran, and Russia, raising fears of a third world war.
Paul Begala (09:19-35:05): Paints a dire picture of global conflict, mentioning, “The third world war is raging throughout the world. From New York City to Los Angeles, the streets of Ukraine” (09:26). Discusses the high Russian casualties and the volatile situation in Ukraine and the Middle East.
Matt Boyle (11:07-26:51): Argues that President Trump’s diplomatic efforts are crucial in preventing further escalation. Highlights Trump's role as a peacemaker, stating, “President Trump is somebody who has been able to really drill down on the priority” (19:43).
Stephen K. Bannon (09:19-35:05): Emphasizes the urgency of the geopolitical situation, questioning the effectiveness of intelligence agencies and expressing skepticism about their role in preventing conflicts (35:05).
The episode also addresses the significant economic developments involving China and the BRICS nations.
Matt Boyle (35:03-54:33): Discusses the "Rio Reset," where BRICS nations aim to displace the U.S. dollar as the global currency. He warns of the diminished value of the dollar, stating, “The Rio Reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality” (35:03).
Paul Begala (35:43-54:33): Explores the implications of the Rio Reset on American savings and the broader economy. He urges listeners to diversify their investments, referencing promotional segments for financial services related to precious metals and gold (54:33).
A personal segment features Mike Lindell discussing his legal battles and the broader implications for free speech.
Mike Lindell (31:05-35:05): Shares his perspective on his trial, framing it as a fight for free speech and against "lawfare." He appeals to listeners for support, stating, “This is about free speech. This is about lawfare. This is about our election platforms” (31:05).
Paul Begala (32:52-35:05): Engages Lindell in a discussion about his trial and its significance, highlighting the media’s negative portrayal and emphasizing the importance of standing up against perceived injustices (32:52).
The episode concludes with final thoughts on national sovereignty, ongoing immigration issues, and the importance of maintaining resolve against both domestic and international threats.
Paul Begala (48:23-55:20): Summarizes the multifaceted war America is facing, emphasizing that resolving immigration issues is paramount for national sovereignty. He warns against further military entanglements, stating, “The most important right now for people in the United States is to get our sovereignty back” (48:23).
Nicole Wallace (43:40-55:20): Reiterates the strength and determination of ICE and DHS officials, advocating for continued support and highlighting the critical role they play in national security (43:42).
Nicole Wallace (00:20): “These are people who are on board with the entire plan... Gavin Newsom can try like hell to push back, but I don't know if he could stop him.”
Paul Begala (01:08): “The Constitution was not designed to stop a rogue president.”
Matt Boyle (19:43): “President Trump is somebody who has been able to really drill down on the priority.”
Mike Lindell (31:05): “This is about free speech. This is about lawfare. This is about our election platforms.”
Paul Begala (48:23): “The most important right now for people in the United States is to get our sovereignty back.”
Episode 4554 of Bannon’s War Room extensively covers pressing national and international issues, from power dynamics within the U.S. government and aggressive ICE deportations to escalating global conflicts and significant economic shifts involving China and BRICS nations. The discussions underscore a pervasive sense of urgency and call for decisive action to preserve American sovereignty and democratic norms. Through passionate dialogues and firsthand accounts, the episode aims to inform and mobilize listeners to support policies and leaders committed to these objectives.