Episode 4558: Israel's Warning To The Region

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room - Episode 4558: Israel's Warning To The Region

Release Date: June 13, 2025
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Description: War Room is a comprehensive program that delivers up-to-the-minute news analysis featuring medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and frontline reporters. Hosted by Stephen K. Bannon, the show provides insider insights into the latest developments affecting America and the world.

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1. Introduction and Setting the Stage

The episode begins with Steve Bannon expressing frustration over mainstream media narratives. He emphasizes the perceived disconnect between the media’s portrayal and the sentiments of the American populace:

• Steve Bannon [00:02]: "This is the primal scream of a dying regime... All these networks lying about the people."

Dave Bratt steps in as the temporary host, introducing the focus on continuous war coverage and upcoming discussions with key guests.

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2. U.S. Involvement in Multiple Global Conflicts

Taj Gill from Warpath Coffee provides a strategic overview of the United States' engagement in various international conflicts and the potential unintended consequences:

• Taj Gill [01:41]: "The unintended consequences are the United States getting dragged into another war in the Middle East... If China takes Taiwan, we're close to World War III."

Key Points:

• Middle East: U.S. support for Israel against Iran may lead to further military escalation.
• Border Crisis: The influx of 20 million illegal immigrants under the Biden administration raises concerns about national security and potential terrorist threats.
• Eastern Europe: Continued support for Ukraine amidst the Russia-Ukraine conflict without substantial troop presence.
• Asia-Pacific: Heightened tensions between China and Taiwan could spiral into broader global conflict.

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3. Domestic Sentiment Against War

The discussion shifts to the American public's diminishing appetite for war, despite ongoing international conflicts.

• Dave Bratt [05:11]: "The appetite for war is going away... People just over it."
• Taj Gill [05:11]: "We've been at war since 2001... the majority of the guys I know don't want it."

Key Points:

• Historical Context: Contrasting public support during the Gulf War and post-9/11 era with current war fatigue.
• Political Implications: The disconnect between elected officials advocating for continued military involvement and the public's desire for peace.

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4. Political Dysfunction and the Military-Industrial Complex

Taj Gill critiques the current political system, highlighting the influence of special interest groups and the military-industrial complex on U.S. foreign policy.

• Taj Gill [07:21]: "The military-industrial complex drives America and they own our Congress."

Key Points:

• Congressional Inaction: Failure to adequately debate and declare wars, leading to unchecked military engagements.
• Economic Drivers: Outsourcing manufacturing to China while maintaining a war-centric economy benefiting defense contractors.

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5. Israel's Decisive Strike Against Iran

General Mike Flynn provides a detailed analysis of Israel's recent military actions against Iran, emphasizing the strategic impact and potential repercussions.

• General Mike Flynn [12:25]: "This war is going to go on in the Middle East for at least another two weeks... We need a benevolent leader inside of Iran to rise up."

Key Points:

• Operation Details: Israeli Air Force and Mossad agents have targeted and eliminated key Iranian military and political leaders, including high-ranking commanders.
• Strategic Objectives: Decapitation strikes aimed at crippling Iran’s nuclear capabilities and military command structure.
• Potential Escalation: Possibility of Iran responding with attacks on American diplomatic and military installations across the Middle East.

Notable Quotes:

• Flynn [16:50]: "This is a warning to any other adversary in that region who feels like they want to take a shot at Israel."
• Flynn [21:19]: "The Iranians are facing that consequence. Will there be an uproar? Will there be an opportunity for Ayatollah Khamenei to go back to the negotiating table?"

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6. Economic Concerns and Fiscal Responsibility

Andy Roth from the State Freedom Caucus discusses the pressing issue of government spending and the national deficit, advocating for significant budget cuts to prevent economic instability.

• Andy Roth [46:35]: "Since post-9/11, we've spent $8 trillion in wars... We can't afford that right now."

Key Points:

• National Debt: Highlighting the unsustainable increase in national debt due to prolonged military engagements.
• Spending Cuts: Proposal of a $1.5 trillion bill targeting waste, fraud, abuse, and green energy subsidies without affecting Social Security or Medicaid.
• Political Opposition: Republican senators are seen as obstacles due to their support for green energy tax credits and other spending initiatives.

Notable Quotes:

• Andy Roth [51:16]: "The big beautiful bill does not take away people's benefits... We have to do it because if we don't, we're going to be forced into wars we can't afford."

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7. Moral Decline and the Role of Religion

General Mike Flynn addresses the perceived moral decline in America, urging the Christian community to take a more active role in restoring national values.

• General Mike Flynn [26:40]: "Our country is in moral decline, and we are in the abyss."

Key Points:

• Moral Crisis: Emphasis on the need for moral and ethical revival to counteract societal decay.
• Role of Faith: Calling on religious leaders and communities to step up and lead by example in addressing national crises.

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8. Conclusion and Call to Action

The episode concludes with a reinforcement of the key themes: the dangers of overextending military engagements, the necessity for fiscal responsibility, and the urgent need for moral leadership. Guests encourage listeners to take active roles in supporting policies and leaders that prioritize national sovereignty and ethical governance.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Steve Bannon [00:02]: "This is the primal scream of a dying regime... All these networks lying about the people."
• Taj Gill [01:41]: "The unintended consequences are the United States getting dragged into another war in the Middle East... If China takes Taiwan, we're close to World War III."
• Dave Bratt [05:11]: "The appetite for war is going away... People just over it."
• Taj Gill [07:21]: "The military-industrial complex drives America and they own our Congress."
• General Mike Flynn [16:50]: "This is a warning to any other adversary in that region who feels like they want to take a shot at Israel."
• Andy Roth [46:35]: "Since post-9/11, we've spent $8 trillion in wars... We can't afford that right now."
• General Mike Flynn [26:40]: "Our country is in moral decline, and we are in the abyss."

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Key Takeaways

1. Global Military Overextension: The United States is deeply involved in multiple international conflicts, which may lead to strategic vulnerabilities and decreased public support for ongoing wars.
2. Israel-Iran Tensions: Recent Israeli military actions against Iran represent a significant escalation with potential for broader regional instability.
3. Domestic Challenges: Issues such as border security and economic deficits are pressing concerns that require immediate attention and policy reform.
4. Political Dysfunction: The influence of the military-industrial complex and special interest groups undermines effective governance and war oversight.
5. Moral and Ethical Leadership: There is a call for renewed moral leadership, particularly from religious communities, to address the nation's ethical and societal challenges.

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This episode of Bannon's War Room provides a critical analysis of current geopolitical tensions, U.S. foreign policy, and domestic challenges, urging listeners to advocate for policies that prioritize national interest and ethical governance.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians, I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Dave Bratt]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media.

[Andy Roth]

I wish in my soul, I wish.

[Dave Bratt]

That any of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[General Mike Flynn]

War room.

[Ube Shabander]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Dave Bratt]

All right, back in the war room, Dave Bratt sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon. We've got continuous coverage of the war. Oh my Shebander is coming on with us. But first we got Taj Gill from Warpath. Coffee, Taj, the floor is yours. Why don't you bring us up to speed on the war. You know the America first philosophy as well as anyone. What's your overview of what's been happening and, and what are the consequences, as Steve says, what's the unintended consequences that could put us in a real barrel as we try to fight multiple wars at the same time with the border invasion, 20 million, China, Taiwan, Russia, Ukraine, etc. Put it all into context for us, brother.

[Taj Gill]

Yeah, I think the unintended consequences are the United States getting drug into another war into the Middle East. Israel did a great job with this mission last night. They is basically all out war on Iran. I would have liked to have seen some more negotiating with Trump. You know Trump, Trump got elected saying he wants to bring peace to the Middle east and Russia, Ukraine, I don't think any of that's happening. He's been undermined at every corner. But Israel's our ally and we're going to protect them. So just like last time, Israel had a back and forth with Iran, we, the Europeans and the Arabs all launched aircraft and we shot down all those missiles. Not all, but almost all the missiles and drone attacks from Iran. So I think we're committed to that. We're committed to protecting Israel. Trump said we're going to stay out of the attacking Iran piece, but we're committed to protecting Israel and that could lead us into another war in the Middle east because as we know, you can't conquer a nation through air attacks. So if, if Iran doesn't capitulate and go back to the table. Then at some point, if Israel wants to completely take, capitulate Iran, then there may be boots on the ground at some point, which we don't want. And Iran already said that they may attack US Embassies and air bases, which we don't want, because then Americans get killed, then we're going to have to retaliate. So we'll see. We'll see. But that's, that's, those are the unintended consequences. And another unintended consequence would be the 20 million illegal immigrants that came into the United States under Biden. People are saying that there may be some sleeper cells in there, some terrorists came across the border. So we'll see. That could be another intended unintended consequence or terrorist attacks inside the homeland of the United States because of Israel's actions last night. So we will see. And then also on the European front, Zelensky launched these attacks on the Russian airfields and those may have unintended consequences. Trump is not pulling the plug on supporting Ukraine. So that, that's, that's two. We, Eastern Europe in the Middle east between Israel and Iran. And the next thing that's on the pressure cooker is China and Taiwan. If China takes, I want Taiwan or tries to take Taiwan, then I would say it's fair to say that World War III is going. Right now we're at two out of three. We're close to World War Three.

[Dave Bratt]

Yeah. You're a war fighter. You have friends around the country. The polling all says the American people want us to pull back. They want less war, not more war. When you go around the country, what do you hear from other war fighters? It's the sons and daughters of MAGA that are going to get killed. Right. It's not the elitist Ivy League crew that their sons and daughters are going to be put at risk. When you go around the country, you know, just give us a few anecdotes from people you've talked to. What are they saying? When, when, when you just talk to people as you meet them going around the country, what are they saying to you?

[Taj Gill]

Yeah, the, the appetite for war is going away. It's not. This is, you know, I remember in 1991 when we invaded Iraq for the Iraq Kuwait thing, the Gulf War, you know, it was, yeah. Such a. American flags everywhere, the yellow ribbons. And then same thing after 9, 11. And I think that sentiment is gone. People are over it. People just over it. They don't, they don't want the war anymore. I mean, we've Been at war since 2001, basically continuously, you know, and then as soon as Afghanistan wound down, we shifted right into Ukraine, into a proxy war. We don't have, for the most part, we don't have any troops over there. And then now this thing with Israel and Iran heats up, which I know it will, there's at least going to be a couple more back and forths. I don't think the appetite for war is there anymore in the United States. And through my, my friends that are out of the military now, some of them are still in, some of them are still in the intelligence agencies, that the appetite for war is just not there for the most part. It's still there, I would say, at a small level. But the majority of the guys I know are, they don't have the appetite for war anymore. They don't, they don't want it. And America overwhelmingly voted for Trump. I mean, Trump won by a landslide and he ran on no war.

[Dave Bratt]

Exactly. Last, last question. And then sell us some coffee. So the American people don't have an appetite for war. It's clear to everybody. The polling shows it. We don't live in a pure democracy. It's a representative democracy, a republic. What's gone wrong with Congress? They're supposed to declare war. They don't ever discuss it. There's no forums open to the American people. How do we fix this so that we don't have the CIA and the deep state, the State Department, the bureaucrats tugging at President Trump, trying to make it sound like he's engaged in some good deal or something when his gut is, has proven to be right. What, what's, what's wrong with our representative republic?

[Taj Gill]

Well, you know as well as I do, the representatives, they don't represent the constituents anymore. They, they represented special interest group and lobbyists, and the lobbyists work for, you know, other countries like Israel, they work for the, the Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, you know, Boeing, all these guys. And our economy is basically based on war. Now we've outsourced all our manufacturing to China and all these other countries. And we are a war machine. United States is a war machine. And whether, whether we, we have troops on the ground fighting somewhere. If that's not the case, then we have to have proxy wars to feed the war machine and that, that's it. So last night, fed the war machine because we sell arms to Israel. We, you know, we give them grants and it all goes back to the big arms company. The military industrial complex drives America and they own our Congress. And how to fix it. I don't know. I don't know, Dave, how to fix it.

[Dave Bratt]

Trump.

[Taj Gill]

Trump ran on shutting down the deep state. And I think he's doing a good job, but I don't know if he can shut it down.

[Dave Bratt]

Well, people, you know, it's what the war room's all about. Agency. And Steve always says people need to make more noise. We're not getting. You got to get through to your representatives on this war thing. And so, Taj, you know, we were just talking about the appetite for war and the warmongers and the globalists, et cetera, and the Marxists fight against the nation state itself. And let's not leave out the left. Right. There's tens of billions of dollars in slush funds for usaid, the Department of Energy, everybody now knows, and the tens of billions of dollars going into these NGOs, nonprofits that are actually funding the war going on on our streets right now in Los Angeles, across the country. And the funding sources are coming into sharp relief. And so people on the war room, if you see a show on that that you like, where Mike Benz is on giving the evidence, please share that with everyone. You know, I've had very good friends that are more left whatever. You share the war with them. And over a period of a few months, it starts to crack and it seeps in and they change their tune. Taste, sell us some coffee. And thanks for being with us today, brother.

[Taj Gill]

Oh, yeah, thanks for having me on.

[Dave Bratt]

You bet.

[Taj Gill]

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[Dave Bratt]

Yeah, I put a little cream and sugar in it still. Steve gives me living, you know what. For being a wimp for me to yuppie. But, yeah, it's a great coffee. I love the coffee.

[Taj Gill]

Yeah. When I created it, I was actually, I was going after a coffee that I tried in the Middle East. I was in Kuwait, in Ramadan, and it was time to break the fast. And I went to one of these big tents outside the hotel and they had. This is the best coffee I've ever tried. It was unlike any coffee I had in America. It was so smooth. And that's what I was going after when I created Warpath. Coffee is a very smooth, robust coffee. And the way we roast it, you don't need any milk, any sugar. You can drink it straight black. There's. The acidity is gone, the bitterness is gone. And it is the best coffee out there. We have 10,800 five star reviews on our website right now. And we Literally can't roast it fast enough. People are just buying it and buying it and buying it. We have dark roast, light roast, medium roast. We have K cups, we have flavored coffee coffee. We have tumblers. We have it all. The website is Warpath Coffee. And for the War Room posse, use promo code war Room. And you get 20 off this weekend for Father's Day. It's Warpath Coffee promo code War Room. And it is the best coffee out there. Just look at the web. The, the reviews on our website. We have 10,800 and it's. The reviews are rolling in. Only 13% of our customers leave reviews and we have almost 11,000. So that goes the show. People love it. We have a huge customer return rate. It is the best coffee. It's veteran owned, family ran. And we love the war room posse. They support us so much and buy so much coffee. It's incredible.

[Dave Bratt]

We know and we love you back, Tasia. Steve's got a way of picking all American people. We could read your face in five seconds. You're a true American, good guy, just natural hero and friend of the war room. So everybody go support Warpath Coffee and Taj Gil, and we're going to another great patriot right now. Taj, we're going to General Flynn. General Flynn, are you with us?

[Ube Shabander]

Yeah, I'm right here.

[General Mike Flynn]

I'm mobile.

[Ube Shabander]

I'm on my mobile command post.

[Dave Bratt]

Good.

[Ube Shabander]

Taj, your coffee's amazing.

[Dave Bratt]

No, you got it. You got it. Hey, we've got about two and a half minutes for a short intro and then we'll dive into the weeds. But give us your 2 1/2 minute overview of what's going on overnight and we'll come back to you for to get in the weeds a little bit. Thanks, General.

[General Mike Flynn]

Yeah, very.

[Ube Shabander]

Yep, yep. Very briefly, Very briefly. This war is going to go on in the Middle east for at least another two weeks. You're going to see a level of devastation that we have not seen probably historically in many people's lives, probably since World War II. And this is regime change time. Israelis are done and I don't blame them. We need a benevolent leader inside of Iran to rise up. We don't need somebody flying in from Paris who's been making billions off the backs of other people. We need somebody from inside the regime and we need the CIA the hell out of there.

[Dave Bratt]

Right. And what do you see? I mean, you know the region better than anyone. Do you? What's the probability of those events occurring? Getting a better secular leader out of.

[Ube Shabander]

War with us Yeah, I think it's very high actually. I think that there's some people that are identified. It is, the most important thing is at what point in time does Israel make the decision? And they are hunting right now. They are definitely, the guys on the ground are hunting for the leadership that's been, they've devastated the leadership just like they did devastating the leadership of Hamas, Hezbollah. They're devastating the leadership of Iran right now. The military, the irgc, the political leadership. And you know, we haven't heard about the Ayatollah yet. I guarantee he's in hiding, his life is at risk and that's fine. I do think that the Israelis need whatever they, whatever capabilities they need because this thing is going to go on, my belief is for another couple of weeks. They are not done with the level of destruction of the nuclear capability. We have to, we have to face the fact that for the, since really the Obama regime, Iran, the state's leading state sponsor of terrorism in the world, has been developing a nuclear weapon. And they have had, you know, they've had years to develop it. Their level of enrichment of uranium is at a level that, you know, they were ready to, to come out with bombs here, you know, in the next couple of weeks, if not days. So Israel showed mass. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

[Dave Bratt]

I know we're back, we got a break. We're going to hit. General, and when you come back, we want to hear your bona fide, one of the finest intelligence minds in America right now. So General, when you come back, give us a quick overview of, of your qualifications because the American people need you right now. Back in a second.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Taj Gill]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Barrett.

[Ube Shabander]

Back.

[General Mike Flynn]

In the war room.

[Dave Bratt]

Dave Bratt sitting in with the great Stephen K. Bannon. Honor and privilege to have General Mike Flynn with us. I don't usually plug Liberty all political views of my own, but we have General Flynn come into our CEO summit October 15 and 16 at Liberty University. And I've gotten to know Mike over the years somewhat and everything I hear about him, I mean, he's just a fine Christian man. The values and virtues, when you're putting men's lives at risk, I want him in charge. I know he cares about God's will. And so Mike, thanks for being on with us today. Also, I'm down in Dallas representing Liberty Day down at the tower Club from 1 to 4 with business friends. So at the last minute, if you, if you want to stop by, CEOs and business friends, pop on by. From here on out, all political views are my own. General Flynn, give, give the folks your bona fides, your, your rise up how high in the military and then your intelligence so people know what they're hearing and who they're hearing it from.

[Ube Shabander]

Yeah, I've served almost three and a half decades in, in the world of intelligence, special operations, Airborne. Five years in combat operations. Served operationally for the majority of my life. Served almost, almost two decades at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, the home of Special Operations and Airborne Forces, and served on six continents, many different wars, Central Americas, Caribbean, Southwest Asia, Central Asia, you know, so I, so I got a lot of time from company, battalion, all the way up to serving as the highest, most senior military intelligence officer in the Department of Defense and running one of the largest intelligence agencies in the world, certainly here in the United States of America. So got a lot of time. I spent a lot of years in the Middle east particularly focused on this problem set that we are now, you know, watching unfold, unravel, if you will, in Iran. So a couple of things that I just, I would just offer for your viewers. We are seeing an exquisite level of intelligence operations by the nation of Israel. I mean, it's just extraordinary to me. This is a, this is definitely a warning. This is a warning to any other adversary in that region who feels like they want to take a shot at Israel. There's one thing that the Israelis have is they have incredible levels of very detailed, very tactical, very refined intelligence because the targets that they are hitting and the, and the precision that they're hitting those targets. And I'm talking about people, command and control, air defense, all the different battlefield operating systems that you have to take out in order to, in this case, to destroy the capability, the, the military and intelligence and security capabilities of a nation. The Israelis have done quite a bit of it in just a period of about 48 hours. We are going to see this continue. And again, this is a warning to anybody else in the region. I've already seen where the Hezbollah response has been nullified because they know the other countries in the region that have put out statements condemning this attack, they know, they, they don't want to say it, Dave. They don't want to say it out loud, but they actually are applauding this attack because Iran has been nothing but a sore spot on the, on the rear end of, of this particular region of the world. We cannot continue to have the, the, basically the, the spew that comes out of Iran and out of people like the ayatollah who's talking about the annihilation of, of not only the state of Israel, but also the United States of America. I applaud President Trump for how he has demonstrated enormous and extraordinary strategic patience. And he has given, he has given every inch of rope to the Iranians to make a better decision, and they have refused. They have basically not made that decision. Absolutely horrendous call on their part. And now what Israel is going to do is continue to destroy every single aspect of the nuclear war making potential of Iran.

[Dave Bratt]

Yeah. Hey, General, President Trump, his overarching strategy. America first. We got a 20 million border invasion war going on domestically that's been taking tremendous resources away from us. He wanted to get out of Ukraine. I'm going to get out of there in a day. He said, didn't want a war in the Middle East. China is the major problem. So how do you, what we want to hear from you is how do you put that puzzle together for the American and the American people don't want war. The polling is overwhelmingly. They want less action. So how do we thread this needle? Because now the genie's out of the bottle and Steve Bannon's been talking about unintended consequences after Iraq and shock and awe and everything looked good and the purple ink and the thumbs and all that. What's the cautionary note of us moving forward so that we can solve our own domestic problems, bring manufacturing back to America and have some stability and all get rich together? He, Trump said he wants Iran to get rich together. And now they, you're right, he gave them rope and they, they hung themselves.

[Ube Shabander]

And they're hanging themselves. Yeah. So, so, so as brief as I can, Dave, this is a super important issue for Trump and Trump's gonna have to deal with this and his inner circle team is going to have to, they're going to have to really, really, you know, pull up the bootstraps here, folks. Sonic, because I know that they're listening. They have got to do this because what Trump, what Trump wanted to do was he wanted to end the, you know, day one, I'm going to end the war in Europe there, you know, in Ukraine, we're going to negotiate a great deal with Iran, blah, blah, blah. So here's where we're at. And I, and people that follow me on X and go to, at Jen Flynn, G.N. flynn, because I posted something about the Ukraine war. We have got to, we have got to clean the decks right now and, and completely relook how we are negotiating the situation in Europe because that war can end and it can end very quickly. But right now, the people that he's got on the, at the negotiating table, and this is really not Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio has got, he's up to his eyeballs in national security challenges just because of all the. He's got to do. So Trump has got to clean the decks. He's got to say, okay, nothing is working. Clear it out. I want, I want some new ideas. And, and so I laid one out there this morning. And these are serious, serious issues and serious times that, you know, the war in the, in the Middle East. I just think at this point in time, it's going to play itself out. We're going to have to pay very close attention to it. But that takes me back to our country, the United States of America and the domestic landscape. And what, what I don't like, I don't like the, this deal that Trump just had with Xi in China, the Chinese. So, so, you know, I Mean, he's, he's, he posted whatever yesterday about the deal he cut on tariffs and, and Chinese students who have been ripping us off for almost three decades now, stealing every single intellectual property that we have, going back home, taking it back home and develop. I mean, we have got to stop this. I mean, frankly, the nonsense and the, that, that the Chinese Communist Party, not the people of China, but the Chinese Communist Party and the leadership right now by Xi is going to be our friends and they're going to work with us as competitors or, you know, or, or partners. No, the Chinese have been killing Americans with fentanyl to the tune of hundreds of thousands over the last five years. Never mind methamphetamine prior to that and other drugs prior to that. Covid. Covid was another bioweapon. We just saw the, the capture of a couple of people with bioweapons to destroy our agricultural industry. That's only three people. How many more people are out there? The purchasing of real estate, this nonsense about. They're gonna, Congress is gonna, you know, be part of, of these delegations around the United States to, to what? To market the, the Chinese Communist Party. This has got to end. It has got to end. First and foremost, Trump has got to refocus on America first. America first for the rest of the world does not mean America in isolation. It means we have got to get our, our muscles stronger. We have got. It's like a human being. You got to work out to stay healthy America. We got to work out to get healthy, right? Manufacturing prowess, our own energy resources that we have in abundance. We've got mining operations that have been shut down for well over a couple of decades, actually. And, and Trump's tried to start, you know, to get some of them going up in like, places like Montana and out in Colorado and, and in New Mexico. But there's other places in the country, you know, manufacturing in Michigan and Ohio. These are the kinds of things that the American people want. American people do not want war. And so don't. Don't drag us another war in the Middle East. Don't drag us into a war that's cost us half a trillion $500 billion in Eastern Europe. What we, what we could have done with that money and Congress is nowhere to be seen, folks. American people, listeners of the war room, do not think that, that Congress is going to do the right thing. They are not. They are making a killing on these wars. The neocons, the neolips. I mean, so I could go on and on, Dave, but yeah, well, yeah, let me.

[Dave Bratt]

Yeah, go ahead, Mike.

[Ube Shabander]

I was going to say America is a godly country, and we, which is one thing that we are, you know, in addition to other, you know, declining capabilities, we are a nation in moral decline. And if we don't, if we don't raise the stature. And I know, I'm talking to the, to the ministers and the pastors and the congregations out there. Get your act together. Thank God the Christian community came to the, the rescue of, of President Trump. I'm a Catholic. Steve's a Catholic. Trump got the most Catholic votes of any president, I think, since Ronald Reagan or maybe even before, maybe even more than him. Christians better, better stand up and step up and be counted and speak up. And I'm not talking about the weak pastors and ministers and priests at the, at the pulpits. I'm talking about people of, of, of moral courage. Our country has got to return to that. And it doesn't mean that, you know, you don't. There's not other, other things that I can, I can, you know, argue about and debate about, but what I'm telling you is our country is in moral decline, and we are in a steep moral decline. We're not at the precipice. We're in the abyss. Read Psalm 23.

[Dave Bratt]

Yep, I was gonna go there. That was going to be my closing question for you. General Flynn. American hero, Patriot serves country his whole life. The Judeo Christian west is at a breaking point. He's dead serious. And I agree wholeheartedly with what he just said. The church is supposed to be the body of Christ on earth and it should know about these catastrophic issues we're facing.

[General Mike Flynn]

Right?

[Dave Bratt]

We should know that our CIA probably had involvement a week ago in the Russia, Ukraine, and, and, and the church is not aware of this. These are existential life and death, peace versus war. And we want peace. But you got to do it the right way. So, General Flynn, thank you for being with us. You're a treasure and God bless you and all your work. Back after the break in two seconds.

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Use your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Dave Bratt]

All right, back in the war room, Dave Bratt sitting in with the great Stephen K. Bannon. It's our honor to have Ube Shabander back on. He's going to bring us right up to speed on where we stand. Now operationally, Israel went in hard. They went beyond getting rid of new capacity. They went to decapitation not of the political figures but of the high end military figures. So now we're in the soup, as they say. And so they now the US Is in a predicament. And so bring us up to speed, ube. And thanks again for being with us on the War Room.

[General Mike Flynn]

First of all, General Michael Flynn is absolutely spot on. I mean there he is, a brilliant military mind and hopefully he can come back and serve his nation once more. Look, there's no question this is a full sweep. This is a determined Israeli decapitation strike against the top echelons of Iran's strategic and military command. Here's where we are operationally right now. The Israeli Air Force and Mossad agents who have penetrated deep behind enemy lines on Iranian territory have managed to kill at least 20 senior Iranian revolutionary Guard commanders as well as the commander of the Iranian missile and air Force command and the senior most nuclear program advisor to the Iranian Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. So right now I can imagine that there is confusion, there is chaos within the command structure of Iran's political command. And look, Bibi Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister in a statement earlier today said that this is the time for the Iranian people, the Iranian people to declare their freedom. So that is a message here, that this is a strategic blow against Iran. The intent here is perhaps regime change, that this is going to Go well beyond striking the nuclear underground enrichment sites. Now we do have reports that the Natanz nuclear enrichment site has been significantly damaged by the Israeli strikes. That's important. Why? Because Iran has two of them, Natanz and Fordeau. The big one is Fordeaux, that is deep beneath the mountains underneath the holy Iranian site of the city of Qom and that we can expect the Israelis to strike that site as well. We are seeing some updates as we speak right now that there are new explosions being heard in the capital of Iran, Tehran, and in that holy site, city of Qom, where that Fordot nuclear facility is taking place. The Israelis certainly here are going, this is operation is going to take days, if not weeks. You've got Mossad deep behind enemy lines and the Israelis have managed to cripple the order of battle for the Iranian command by striking against the leadership of Iran's missile command and its ground forces, as well as the chief of staff of the Iranian military, Mohamed Baghari. He is dead. Now imagine that's equivalent if the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was assassinated alongside others on the in the Pentagon leadership. That is what this is equivalent to. So right now the Iranian military command structure which is top heavy, is running blind. So this is going to escalate. We're going to see more of these Mossad attacks inside Iran and more of these Israeli airstrikes. Given what we're hearing from the leadership in Jerusalem right now, the Iranians have not been, have not managed to launch their medium and long range ballistic missiles against Israeli targets. But so there seem they're trying to regroup right now given the chaos that is taking place in Tehran. But no question from an operational perspective, from a battlefield damage assessment, this has been a widely effective strike on Iran. The question is, what does the Ayatollah Ali Khamenei do? He probably believes that his regime right now is facing collapse. So how will the Iranians react? Is this a bear that's been cornered or will they collapse and totally be crippled? President Trump in a social media statement said, hey, Iran must make a deal before there is nothing left. And that is wise advice.

[Dave Bratt]

Yeah. What are the odds? I cannot imagine Iran making that deal right now. What's the timeline for Iran to recoup somewhat and be able to retain its footing with medium and long range missiles to Israel and then any risk assessment to the US and then do they have proxies anywhere outside of Iran that can help them in this response or have most of them been weakened significantly already?

[General Mike Flynn]

Well, Iran's main proxy and its strategic deterrent against Israel, Hezbollah. Lebanon has been wiped out. Hezbollah has already said that they're not in this fight. That's because the Israeli Mossad killed Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, and killed most of the top Hezbollah commands with those exploding pagers. That Mossad intelligence operation that killed hundreds of Hezbollah commanders as well as the top leadership of Hezbollah, that means that Hezbollah, which is right on the border of Israel's north, is not going to be able to launch retaliatory strikes. And Iran for years had pinned its hopes on the ability of Hezbollah to launch these strikes into Israel to try to stop the Israelis from launching out strikes deep into Iran's fortified underground nuclear facilities. So without Hezbollah, Iran is really exposed. But Iran Revolutionary Guard still has terror operatives throughout the Middle East. And that means American diplomatic facilities and military bases in Doha, the United Arab Emirates, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Baghdad are potentially exposed to retaliation. But that would be essentially suicidal by the Iranians if they so chose that path. Look, Steve Witkoff was supposed to sit down with his Iranian counterparts on Sunday in the neutral Arabian Gulf country of Oman. That clearly is not going to happen anymore. And we saw from President Trump's social media statement earlier today that some of the Iranians that the American side was dealing with from the Trump administration, many of those people are now dead. Given the wide sweeping nature of this Israeli strike that seems to have caught the Iranian military leadership and Ayatollah Khamenei completely unprepared, with the top military advisors to the Ayatollah and Tehran now dead. So all eyes are now on what Tehran will do next. This is completely from an operational perspective. In the first 24 hours, ours seems to have been a success. The question is, will Israel's attacks be able to destroy those advanced centrifuges that the Iranians use to enrich uranium to weapons grade levels of enrichment, Bibi Netanyahu said that these strikes will destroy those centrifuges. It's going to take the Iranians perhaps decades to rebuild that nuclear program, given that the Israeli Mossad has also managed to assassinate a number of the top nuclear scientists in Iran as well. And that is going to lead to a significant amount of chaos and disruption within the nuclear research and development capability that Iran currently has as well. Even if some of those centrifuges deep beneath the Iranian mountains survived the first wave of strikes, but we can certainly expect another wave. The question is, will American military assets be dragged into this war? So far, it's very Clear from President Trump administration's statements that American military assets, war planes, soldiers are not involved in this attacks. But perhaps behind the scenes there may be some intelligence support to the Israeli long range attacks and their special Mossad activities on the ground in Iran.

[Dave Bratt]

Yeah. Say a little bit more on that. But also you and Flynn both agree it's gonna be days, weeks before maybe even the Israeli strikes are done. And so where does that leave us on the ground? You know, just in terms of everyday activity, I mean, it's all undermined, right? I mean, flight activity in the Middle east, the Straits of Hormuz, key choke points are problematic. What do you see? You know, just say a month out, what's still going to be negatively impacted because of these attacks? It's not just going to be life as normal. I can't comprehend that. Try to map that out for us a little bit.

[General Mike Flynn]

Yeah, Pandora's box has been open. Now look, remember in June of last year, the Iranians and Israelis traded missile strikes and airstrikes, but that was relatively contained. This is a whole different ball game. This is the Israeli Air Force and Mossad operators on the ground going after the top leaders of Iran's top echelon. People that sit down with Ayatollah Khamenei on any given day. So with Hassan Nasrallah dead in Lebanon, with Ali Shamkhani, who was the right hand man of Ayatollah Khomeini, also dead, with Hussein Salami, the chief of staff of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, dead, as well as some of his other lieutenants, you know, Khomeini right now must be wondering, well, maybe I'm next. So maybe we should just go all out. Look, the Mossad is probably still on the ground. We did see reports that the Israeli intelligence Special Service was able to evacuate some of their operators that were on the ground. And according to reports, launching drones, drone strikes from within Iranian territory, striking some of those ballistic missile facilities that the Iranians have underground, that they were intended to be used as a second strike capability against Israel if and when these attacks take place. So right now the Israelis seem to be at least two steps ahead on the chessboard with Iran. But you know, the Iranians can launch kamikaze strikes. We saw in 2019, the Iranians launching suicide kamikaze drone strikes against Saudi oil crude storage facilities in northern Saudi Arabia. We saw the Iranians launch a similar attack against oil facilities right outside of Abu Dhabi. So perhaps here the Iranians may choose to strike oil storage facilities and terminals in the Arabian Gulf. And to spike oil prices throughout the world. That could perhaps be one option. But that might lead to strikes against Iran's oil terminals and that could of course cripple Iran's economy. So I think this is going to, this is going to escalate before it de escalates. The message coming out of Washington here is that, hey, Iran, before there's nothing left of what was once a proud empire. Take the deal, you know, agree to zero enrichment. You had 60 days, now it's 60 days plus one. You've seen that there. You know, the other side is not bluffing. You know, you were warned multiple times over and over and over again that, you know, the US has the most lethal military capabilities that much, much of which have been provided to Israel and that these, there would be consequences if he did not accept the deal. And now the Iranians are facing that consequence. Will there be an uproar? Will there be an opportunity for Ayatollah Khamenei to go back to the negotiating table? Well, many of those people that were negotiating are now been killed by this extraordinary Israeli decapitation strike. So, you know, but if a missile facility is used to strike American diplomats or American soldiers, let's not forget when the Iranians and their militial forces last tried to do this, President Trump in the first term wiped out Qasem Soleimani, the most capable Iranian commander. And so that certainly is going to also factor into what Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader of Iran is going to do next. But this is war. The Middle east is at war. And this war is going to continue for some time, no doubt.

[Dave Bratt]

Yeah, yeah. 30 seconds left. Ubai, thanks for being with us. 30 seconds. In closing, how much does this shift the US positioning and the resources of the State Department, the CIA, most every agency. You said this is huge. From the Israeli perspective, it seems to me it's also fairly significant, even if we're in a passive position to get ready for what could happen. Just Give us in 30 seconds A summary overview of what the US shift looks like internally.

[General Mike Flynn]

Well, you have the American aircraft carriers on the Arabian Gulf and in that area they're going to be on high alert for any type of suicide drone attacks or suicide boat attacks. Intelligence facilities, diplomatic facilities throughout the Arabian Gulf and the Middle east are going to be at high alert. And of course, Iranian backed terrorists can even attack American tourists in Europe or in Latin America. Some, you know, a tactic that the Iranians have used in the past when they were desperate. So this is a war in the Middle east, but it certainly has global implications.

[Dave Bratt]

Yeah. Yep, right on the money. Ubaidar, thank you very much, brother, for being with us again on the War Room. You're great. Everyone loves your analysis. See you soon, folks. Stay, stay with us over the break right back.

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[Dave Bratt]

All right, Dave, Brad in the war room with great Stephen K. Bannon covering the war overnight news. I'm sure everyone's pretty much up to speed. We have great analysis with UBAI and General Flynn. Now, you know, economics and the trade offs involved here. This is, you know, pretty. President Trump's intuition is no more war. Now the Ukraine war has not ended in a day because the deep state actors are, you know, putting roadblocks in the way there. Now we've got a Middle east circumstance that's going to shift resources so nobody better. We've got, you know, I was in the Freedom Caucus and now we got the head of the state Freedom Caucus organization across all 50 states, Andy Roth. Welcome to the war room. If you want to just pivot off the war and the use of scarce resources and then all the other challenges and the big beautiful bill floor is yours. Welcome, Andy.

[Andy Roth]

Hey, thanks, Dave. It's good to See you. You're an old friend and I love what you did in the Freedom Caucus and everything that you've done since then. Just to pick up from the last couple of interviews that you've had, I just make a comment that we can't afford foreign entanglement right now. That's one of the reasons that Trump is so adamantly American first is we got to fix what's going on in our country. Since post 9 11, we've spent $8 trillion both in the war, in Iraq and in Afghanistan. And to put that in perspective, 8% would tack on another 20, 25% of our national debt. We can't afford that right now. And so what we're trying to do in Congress, what the House Freedom Caucus is trying to do in Congress, is to push through this one big, beautiful bill. And even though it's only $1.5 trillion worth of spending cuts, it's a start and we've got to get going on it. And here is the very fundamental secret to passing this. It's getting the Senate Republicans on board. They're the only ones that are stopping this. And so the War Room Posse, they are the backbone of this country. They, they need to light up the phones of all of these Republicans who are addicted to the Biden green energy tax credits. You know, it's a, it's a underreported, dirty secret right now that there are Republican governors all across the country who, who bashed Biden correctly for the inflation Reduction Act. They, they say he's a big government liberal that destroyed our country. That's all correct. But out of the other side of their mouth, they're taking all of those green energy tax credits, all of those subsidies, billions and billions of dollars, and they're bragging about it back home. And the senators in those states are going along for the ride. And so they're the ones that are pushing back against the House passed bill. And so whatever the Senate does, it needs to deliver not only on that bill, but make the cuts even larger. And I'm worried.

[Dave Bratt]

Let me interrupt you, Let me, let me interrupt you on that Green Point, because I think, and you tell me if I'm connecting the dots right here, because I want to be accurate and fair. The War Room always wants the receipts, but these tens of billions of dollars go into the green energy stuff. That stuff goes to the Department of Energy. And if I'm not mistaken, it's the DOE money that's going to fund the NGOs in the domestic war in Los Angeles. And across the country right now. Am I connecting the dots correctly? And if I am these Republican senators, man, I wouldn't want to be them right now. If we have those dots connected properly. And they, they are still pushing for the green energy which is funding the, the, you know, deep state woke and weaponized riots across our country. Oh, my word, I would not want to be there. Do we have that right, Andy?

[Andy Roth]

Yeah. I mean, at best, at best, these subsidies are going to companies that are building pipelines that aren't carrying oil and gas, but CO2, and they're using eminent domain to take people's land away from them in order to build these pipelines. At best, they're giving money to foreign companies that want to build electric vehicle plants and batteries and stuff in our country that they go off sea or offshore. That's at best. At worst is exactly what, to China, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. So, so there, there is absolutely no excuse at all for Republicans, Senate Republicans, to defend this garbage because the tentacles are deep. It goes everywhere. And so we've got to stop it.

[Dave Bratt]

Yeah, yeah. And we, we got some heroes over there right on the, on the cost cutting side. But when you say America can't afford it, you know, I ran on the budget stuff 12 years ago. You know, people say they care about it nominally, but they won't vote for it. They won't kick out of Congress their members who are voting for $7 trillion budgets repeatedly, who are running $2 trillion budget deficit spending, stealing from the kids. Two trillion every year, deficit financed. We're spending it now. The kids gotta pay it back. How do you convince the American people we cannot afford this? I mean, a trillion dollars in interest payments is bigger than defense. But make it real so that the war room shares this segment with all their friends and we can get some changes up on Capitol Hill. All political commentaries, my own, by the way. Andy, fire away. Two minutes to conclude.

[Andy Roth]

I mean, the one big beautiful bill does not take away people's benefits. It does not touch Social Security or Medicaid, but it does go after the waste, fraud and abuse and the green energy tax credits that, that we have spent or that we have wasted over the last multiple decades. The problem that we have right now isn't just because of Biden. It's been decades of profligate spending. And that profligate spending has created a deep state of just nefarious spending that's been going on for so long. And what the big beautiful bill does is just start to take a blade to all of that Wasteful spending. We can remove all of that spending, we can go back to pre Covid spending and nobody will feel it at all in a meaningful way. But we have to do it because if we don't, we're going to be forced into wars we can't afford. We're going to have sky high inflation. It's going to be very, very ugly. And it could be coming very, very soon and into this summer and fall if we don't get our act together. And I can't stress this enough, it is going to be the Senate Republicans that are the problem. Mike Rounds in South Dakota, Thom Tillis in North Carolina, Bill Cassidy in Louisiana. These senators do not know what time it is in America and they have to deliver with these spending cuts. And if they don't, we're going to have some serious problems ahead and it's going to hit everybody. It's going to hit every family.

[Dave Bratt]

Very good. Andy Roth, State Freedom Caucus Network. Look them up right? Get, get affiliated with them in your state, wherever you live. These are the good guys. They're fighting fiscal deficit hawks, spending hawks, and they're what we need in this country. It's not a sexy topic, but it needs to be done. And don't let the Federal Reserve system off the hook either. They've accommodated the $2 trillion budget deficits. They're in charge of stable prices and employment. They failed grotesquely for the past 40 years. Thanks for being with us on the war room today. God bless you all.

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