
Episode 4559: How Israel Can Lead To Further Global Conflicts ...
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Stephen K. Bannon
He's done everything humanly possible, along with Steve Witkoff, to give an off ramp to the Iranians. They chose not to take it, and they got very arrogant about it. And this is the inevitable result. You don't get to be the number one state sponsor of terror and provide all the weaponry to be fired into Israel and then not expect Israel to take your words seriously that you want to wipe them off the map.
Mike Pompeo
The Iranians are about to get their asses kicked. And it's been coming since Jimmy Carter. They've slaughtered Americans, they've slaughtered Arabs, they've slaughtered their own people. They think this is Joe Biden's administration, that they would get away with getting nuclear weapons. And then the world would sit there, wouldn't know what to do about it. You talk about ballistic missiles. Israel sees thousands of ballistic missiles. It can't defend against 5,10,000 ballistic missiles. It's not going to sit there and take it. This Iranian regime is a terrorist Islamist regime. It is an illegitimate regime. It came to power through the point of a gun, and it expects to stay in power with nuclear weapons. Thank God we have Donald Trump as President of the United States. Thank God Israel has. Benjamin Netanyahu is the prime minister. And I will say, if this Islamic terrorist regime touches one hair on the head of an American citizen, they're going to wish they hadn't.
Mike Lindell
Okay.
Jack Posobiec
And you think about the Israelis thinking about this operation maybe going back to 2008, as the Iranians were trying to get this nuclear weapon on a scale and a scope that is quite historic. What do you think about their capabilities? It does seem quite incredible. Yeah.
Ubay Chandar
I always felt in all the times that I've. That I've worked with the Israelis, back when I served as the director of the CIA's Near East Division, that Israel just simply wouldn't exist if they didn't have this extraordinary intelligence capability, not only to detect threats, but to conduct these sorts of offensive operations. And we've seen the results of many of them, including that pager operation against Hezbollah operatives in Lebanon, and the ability that Israel has had with pinpoint precision, to strike at leaders of Iran's proxy terrorists, including inside Iran. Remember, they took out Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran. So they have this ability to fuse their military operations with intelligence collection in extraordinary ways in the region and beyond. And I think that's exactly what they're doing right now. And a lot of it we're not going to see, except for the results when there are dead Iranian senior military officials or Iranian military nuclear Facilities that have, that have been blown up.
Unnamed Military Analyst
See, that's the terrorist wing of the military. It sponsors international terrorism. Their leadership has been taken out almost entirely. Many of the top brass in the army itself have been taken out. And the infrastructure at the site of Natanz, which is the first site for the production of weapons grade uranium, has been destroyed. We believe almost entirely. We may have to have another go at it. We'll see. We're analyzing the BDA at the present, present time, but we have also been successful in taking out the air defenses in and around Tehran. This was a project that was implemented by our Mossad. And I think that when the dust settles, you'll find that the beeper operation in Lebanon and the drone operation of Ukraine and Russia pales to the genius of the implementation of this operation.
Jack Posobiec
Wow.
Unnamed Military Analyst
Let me pull him out.
Jack Posobiec
Pull him out. Wow, wow, wow.
Unnamed Intelligence Expert
Set of outcomes are in the offing so long as Israel is prepared to finish the task, and as long as the world unites to provide continued deterrence and defense to prevent Iran from conducting all kinds of attacks. I think of cyber threats that will probably be projected around the world too. Iranians have a great cyber program, so lots of vectors for them to respond. We all need to be alert and responsive and do everything we can to deter them from coming after any American anywhere in, in any field. I don't think this was remotely a surprise. I think, you know, at any given plan, the exact moment that you'll execute is always a bit surprising. But the fact that the Israelis concluded they needed to do this doesn't surprise me in the least. I must say, too, I've. I've talked to some folks in the Gulf region this morning already. The Gulf nations are thrilled. They want to make sure the United States will be there to help make sure that if Iran responds against them well, we'll do the necessary to help them be safe and secure. But the entire region knows that Iran is the problem and not Israel. And so while they may not be able to say it quite as publicly as some others can, I know that the Gulf Arab nations are feeling a little safer and a little more secure today.
Jack Posobiec
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Putin's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Unnamed Intelligence Expert
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
Ubay Chandar
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Jack Posobiec
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Jack Posobiec
It's Friday the 13th of June, year of the Lord 2025. Thank you for joining us for our late afternoon, early evening edition of the of the War Room. A lot has transpired from this morning. Remember this morning we were setting up about how the law of unintended consequences in the fog of war that you have to really kind of think these things through and see how they develop. Also, we ended and I got a lot of positive feedback from people saying we ended this morning's cold open by my brilliant staff with the shock and awe of 2003. What was said throughout the day is that it had been a decapitation strike. The strike had worked. They didn't have any ballistic missiles. They didn't have any command and control. They couldn't fire anything. There was a huge push I from my sources, which are pretty good, and Tucker Carlson's got a tweet up about it that there's a big push for President Trump actually to engage more into this war as it develops. It turns out Jack Posobec's our first guest out of the box. It turns out, and here's where I don't understand how this plays out in the logic of war, because we've been, as you know, very big on they can't have a nuclear weapon and we ought to go to economic war with them if we shut this regime down and let the let the Persians deal with them. But it's going to take time. And you have to be very focused on doing this economically and not get into another shooting war in the Middle east because we just got out of two of them that that took us 20 years and I think added $9 trillion to the national debt. Israel decided, did their own calculation and said, hey, Netanyahu said we got to go now. We think it's going to happen now. We said, fine, that's Israel first. We're America first. America's got to put her own interests first, Jack. As you know, we're already engaged in the air defense over over Tel Aviv and the rest of Haifa and the rest of Israel. It turns out they didn't have a decapitation. It wasn't just about nuclear weapons. They went for A decapitation move. They didn't have it. They didn't decapitate all the military command, they didn't take out the command and control structure. Tel Aviv has been getting pounded by ballistic missile attacks and we know that American air defense is engaged in its defense, including a couple of Arleigh Burke cruisers that are have gone to the eastern Mediterranean to provide air defense. Your thoughts about where and I think there's a huge push to get President Trump to actually engage in active combat operations against the Iranians. Jack Bosobic, any update from your end?
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, Steve, that's what I've been hearing throughout the day. You and I have of course been discussion all day on and off the phone and tracking with my sources all throughout the administration throughout D.C. and just following the events online as well, of course we also saw that, that Arleigh Burke guided missile destroyer with equipped an Aegis missile system and the ability to track these, these incoming ballistic missiles. The counter strike which earlier today on Human Events Daily I was on with General Flynn and we, we covered this live as it was taking place, this attack where we were able to see in real time here on the real America's voice network that these, these missiles, many of which were able to get through whatever layered missile defenses that the Iron Dome and other layers that Israel had there in Tel Aviv. This was the first salvo. And it seems that following then is really when it seems though Israel called up the US Military or at least reach out to contacts and saying we need some, we need some assistance. And that's when it seems that this Arleigh Burke destroyer came in to provide help add to that umbrella of COVID for the Aegis missile system really lighting up the sky. And Steve, of course we heard this morning on many other outlets saying that that Iran was done, that there would not be a possibility for them to strike back, that they had lost their entire chain of command, their command and control. And it seems that's not the case. And so now Israel, as we're seeing live by the way, is now conducting a, I suppose you would say this is a second day of strikes or second evening of strikes on Tehran. However tonight the difference being that as these strikes come in, the Iranian air defenses are active as opposed to last night when they were deactivated. However, they have been able to conduct some strikes in a few air bases tonight in Iran as well as numerous strikes on Tehran that have been getting through Iran's air defenses. But it does appear that Iran's air defenses, their anti aircraft missiles, their anti aircraft cannons are operating tonight in a way that they were not last night.
Jack Posobiec
Well, and also, correct me if I'm wrong here, the sugar high that a number of, I think quite immature people had this morning about the success of this rate. And I say once again, it's just as audacious as the Ukrainians hit into the interior of Russia to take out part of their strategic triad. It was bold. It's had the efficiency that the IDF is known for. The IDF's already been on a roll against Hezbollah, against the Muslim Brotherhood franchisee, Hamas against, against the Iranian air defense, which they took out essentially, or a big part of it a couple of months ago. But it's not about that. It's about having the people got a sugar high this morning before the National Security Councilman. I think President Trump convened it at 11am and there was a lot of loose talk. As we said, you've got to understand the fog of war and the law of unintended consequences. We cannot get sucked into another major war on the Eurasian land mass, particularly in the Middle East. And as we end this Broadcast now at 5:00pm Eastern Daylight Time on the 13th of June in the year of our Lord 2025, we're getting drawn into this already. We're an active combatant. If you're providing air defense, you're a combatant. Am I? We got to go to break. Am I correct on that, Jack Bosobic? If you're providing air defense, you got Arleigh Burkes there's with Aegis, the Aegis Cruisers with the Aegis missile system. Are you not a combatant in this, sir?
Stephen K. Bannon
Steve it seems the United States is becoming more and more embroiled in, in this and what appeared to be, or many people said was a decapitation strike earlier today and last night, well, turns out it's, it's just another shooting war.
Jack Posobiec
Well, by the way, they may have gone close to some sort of decapitation, but it's not done. And now you're in a fight with the, with the Persians, an ancient civil. The Israelis went. They made a decision for Israel first. Hey, go with God. You made a decision to the calculus, but don't have the decision backed up that on the first couple hours of it, the United States has got to come in and go to full defense. And then other people say that we should go on offense. That can't be. How can that be? We're not read in. It's not part of our plan. In what universe does that happen? Short break. Back in a moment. There's Something happening with our farmland here in the United States that isn't getting enough attention. The Chinese have been buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of U.S. farmland. They're also taking control over critical supply chains, things like fertilizer, animal feed and farming equipment. Why? It's not clear. They're tightening their grip on global food production. That is clear. And if things go south and it could happen quickly, we need to be ready. That's why I trust my Patriot Supply. They're America's largest emergency preparedness company. And right now, when you get their four week emergency food supply, you'll get a free 4,24 7 food kits, an extra 12 days of food, absolutely free. Okay. Full stop. You're going to have to insert this. Okay. And right now, when you get their four week emergency food supply, you'll get four free 72 hour food kits, an extra 12 days of food, absolutely free. Let me repeat that. You're going to get four free 72 hour food kits. That's an extra 12 days of food and it's absolutely free. That's four weeks of delicious meals that last up to 25 years, delivering 2,000 plus calories per day. It's shipped fast and it's shipped free. We can't control what the Chinese Communist Party does, you can't control what China does. But we can control how prepared we are. Go to my patriotsupply.com today to claim your 12 days of free food. Shop my patriotsupply.com my patriotsupply.com do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Your host, Stephen K. Banner.
Jack Posobiec
Okay, this, excuse me, that. Oh, we gotta, we got the embassy. I'm the one that pushed to have the embassy move to Jerusalem. Right. Which I still believe and I believe in Israel as an ally. However, if you're going to go, if we have a plan, and that is to negotiate and try to, and I understand about the date and everything like that, but if you have a full plan that you're going to go alone, just like the Ukrainians, if you're going to go alone, then guess what, when it gets hot, you got to have a plan to take it. I don't hear, oh, we got, we got American troops in Iraq. Why we got American troops in Iraq because Fox News and all of them and Bush lied to us. Lied. This was not a, this was not a, it wasn't a, a failure of intelligence or we made some bad calculations. It was bald face lies. Let's talk like adults today. Let's have an adult Conversation, bald face lies. Go over to Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery and tell them about Yellow Cake and tell them about all the lies and spin of the neocons. Isn't this movement in reaction to that war? Isn't in reaction to the financial collapse brought on by the Bush administration? Yes, yes, yes, yes. I know the Democrats ton to do with it. And the Wall street guys, they were all guilty. That's where this movement came from. Stop the forever wars because your sons and daughters are fighting them just like your sons and daughters are going to be fighting this one. So if we're going to do it this time, let's have an adult conversation. Do not come here and say, oh, we got to protect America, then get them out. Get them out of Iraq, get them out of the embassy. That's not a call for us to get engaged in a shooting war. And that's what we're engaged in. A couple hours into this either. Got it. If you're going to go alone, you got. You can take care of your deal or not. You don't need us. Decide to go alone. Decided to reject it. No, we don't need you. We're going to go to loan. And the go to loan lasts about six hours. Not only do they want them defense, they want us to go on offense. Don't believe me. Tucker Carlson's got a tweet up. I will not repeat the names on this show at this time. I have not verified that. But Tucker Carlson's on fire now calling out names, naming names. Folks, we have 10 million just on Biden's watch in our country. Illegal alien invaders. And if you don't think that's a war on the streets of la, in Chicago, in New York and everywhere you're going to see this weekend. And that is our number one priority because that's what the CCP is getting us and not getting drawn into something else in the Middle East. That's a secondary. Tertiary. Yes, yes, yes. Secondary or tertiary? Secondary or tertiary. Just like we said for years. Ukraine, the eastern speaking. The Eastern speaking, excuse me, the Russian speaking eastern border. Ukraine is not in the vital. Let me repeat that. The vital national security interest in the United States. Just like taking down the nuclear weapons. Very important. Had to be done. President Trump said we're not going to allow him to have it. But you've got to go up the escalatory ladder and the tools you have particularly. We haven't done anything in economics. You know why? Because they were chomping at the bit to get in there. And mix it up. And if you're going to do that, that's fine. Go ahead, go do it, Hammer. It's audacious, it's bold. You got one of the finest militaries in the world. We've seen that against Hezbollah, we've seen that against the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, we've seen that. Take down air defense, but don't set it up that we're going to get wrapped up in this thing in the first day. And now people want us going offense into bombing runs on this. And Mike Pompeo, Mike Pompeo sitting there going, everybody in the Gulf region so excited is that your paymasters and Qatar Pompeo that you took the money from, is that your paymasters and Cutter are telling you this? Is that what they're saying is that you're a puppet for them now. Oh, the Gulf Emirates. Yeah. Well, I haven't seen them come out today and say, oh, this is terrific. We're so grateful that this happened. No, they let the United States get sucked in. Your sons and daughters, if you're going to do it, do it, go for it. You make your own decision. You decided we got to do it, we got to do it. Now they got 15 nuclear weapons. Then go for it. But then why do we have to come in air defense? And please don't use. Oh, because we have things in Tel Aviv. Then get them the hell out of Tel Aviv. And if you're American citizen over there, give him a shot. Get out or stick. If you stick, that's fine. This is how we get sucked in. You want to get. You want to play. We want to be all dumb again. Let's go back to 2003. Shock and awe. Remember all the Bush guys chest thumping and high fiving that their sons and daughters go over there and die in Iraq and Afghanistan? All, all those Bushies and their khaki pants and their blue blazers. All those guys, all of them, you see them, all the Bush apparatus, all those guys sitting there high fiving on. On the 19th of March, 2003. No, they did not. Their sons and daughters didn't go. And it's the beginning of the rapid decline of this country financially, militarily. And so now we're in another one. Again, all I wanted to have is a open conversation. Is this in the best. Is this in the vital national security industry of the United States right now? To be back into a war in the Middle east with CENTCOM running things? Think about it for a second. And now you. This, this country ain't Iraq, right. Not Afghanistan. These are the guys that pounded out Iraq and Iran. The Persians pounded out for years. For years. I don't know, lost a couple of million men each. Will that happen now? I have no earthly idea. I do not. What I know is that we weren't asked to come. You know, this people went on this by themselves. They made a conscious decision to do it themselves. And if you want to do it yourselves, then do it yourselves. All of a sudden we got to come in and defend that and what planet? And I'm not worried. People say, oh, it's going to tear MAGA apart. No, it is not going to tear MAGA apart at all. We need, we may have needed to do this to decide who's really America first and who's still a neocon. Who's still a neocon. And if I'm hurting your feelings, I'm sorry, your feelings are going to have to get hurt. And I'm not in the Tucker Carlson, the Kurt Mills. I know those guys well. I respect them a lot. But when you decide to do something and you're going to do it on your own, then do it on your own if you're going to make that decision. Just like Zelensky in this crowd. If you're going to do it, do it. Don't try to get us sucked into it. Because right now, inexorably, I have preached this gospel inexorably. We're being drawn into a massive land war, World War Three. And we have no. While we have 10 million at minimum, invaders in this country. And you saw last weekend in Los Angeles how easy it is to get them out of here. You're going to have a firestorm in each of these sanctuary cities. We got enough on our plate. We have enough on our plate that we have to take care of in this country. We got a million fentanyl dead. We got, we've got, we've got corrupt institutions corrupted by our central energy. The Chinese Communist Party is everywhere. It's on Wall street, it's in the universities. Hell, Stanford and Harvard are basically prep schools for them. We got enough on our plate. And every time we try to do something, we got radical neo Marxist judges that are shutting us down. Yes, we have a full plate right here to take care of business. And as you know, I'm not a put the head in the sand. The second biggest thing we have is a ticking time bomb in the South China Sea and in the Straits of Taiwan. We do not have time for diversion. And that's what this is I'm sorry if I'm hurting your feelings. We weren't asked to come into this. We were kind of dismissed. Oh, and maybe later on we find out more. But hey, that's for another day. I'm talking about right now and I'm talking about all the sugar high that was this morning and all the chest pumping and pounding and oh, yeah, let us get some. They ain't talking about getting some late in the afternoon. And the people in Tel Aviv, they're getting pounded. We're not told this. Jack Bosobik, your thoughts?
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, Steve, we're seeing the responses now. We're seeing the US Getting inexorably. If the escalation ladder continues, if the United States continues to be involved in this, as escalations continue between Israel, between Iran, that goes up and up higher, that draws closer and closer to the possibility of US Servicemen being killed in this or retaliatory strikes on any of the number, large, Large number of U.S. personnel that are all across the Persian Gulf, as everyone knows. And the Russians, by the way, are looking at all this. And the Russian response at the United nations, their permanent representative, and I've got his state up here, actually said the west has done everything to add fuel to the fire of escalation in the Middle east, inciting and encouraging Israel to take radical steps, including in their declaration condemning the attack. And so there's real questions as to how this will affect Russia's negotiation posture vis a vis Ukraine, which I've been bringing up again and again here, because if the cease fire talks are off between Iran and Israel, these, these nuclear talks are, are done and certainly with the United States. And the question is, will Russia agree to a cease fire or will this give fuel to the hardliners in Russia who this, this is what caused Prigozhin, right? This is what, what Israel, what Israel was attempting to do last night in Iran, take out all the military leaders. This is what made Prigozhin so upset when he turned his sights on Moscow way back when he wanted, and the Russian hardliners have wanted to conduct this type of attack on Kyiv from the very start. That's what they've wanted all along. So there's going to be real questions in the next 48 hours or maybe even less than that at this point. The US Response now will dictate many things going forward. Steve, we are in the fourth turning and everyone is looking to the White House to see how President Trump will react. Are we going up the escalation ladder or are we Getting off of it.
Jack Posobiec
Hang on. Not just four in the third World War, which to date we have been able to stay out as a combatant as much as we got fingerprints all over Ukraine because of the deep state and the money. We're in it now. You're providing air defense. You're a combatant. Simple. You're a combatant. Understand something. And if you're for that thing, fine. I appreciate you and I've got time to listen to your arguments. Just, just understand something. We are on the 13th of June in the year of our Lord 2025. We are now a combatant in the third world war in the Connecticut. And I respectfully submit we have enough on our hands with 10 million illegal invaders that are in these sanctuary cities, these festering sores in the United States of America. Short break, an all star cast. Next. There's something happening with our farmland here in the United States that isn't getting enough attention. The Chinese have been buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of U.S. farmland. They're also taking control over critical supply chains, things like fertilizer, animal feed and farming equipment. Why? It's not clear. They're tightening the grip on global food production. That is clear. And if things go south and it could happen quickly, we need to be ready. That's why I trust my Patriot supply. They're America's largest emergency preparedness company. And right now, when you get their four week emergency food supply, you'll get a four week free 4247 food kits, an extra 12 days of food, absolutely free. Okay? Full stop. You're gonna have to insert this, okay? And right now when you get there, four week emergency food supply. You'll get four free 72 hour food kits, an extra 12 days of food, absolutely free. Let me repeat that. You're gonna get four free 72 hour food kits. That's an extra 12 days of food and it's absolutely free. That's four weeks of delicious meals that last up to 25 years, delivering 2,000 plus calories per day. It's shipped fast and it's shipped free. We can't control what the Chinese Communist party does. You can't control what China does. But we can control how prepared we are. Go to my patriotsupply.com today to claim your 12 days of free food. Shop mypatriotsupply.com My patriotsupply.com Do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Your host, Stephen K. Ban.
Jack Posobiec
Mike Lindell. Of course, the worst of this happened with during the illegitimate biden regime. You're now in a federal court with your entire company on the line. They've asked for $60 million against compensation for, for these bad things you said about them. Can you get us up to date, sir?
Mike Lindell
Yeah, we just did closing arguments, everybody, and this is all about your first amendment right of free speech. My lawyers got up there and says, you know, these machine companies are basically an extension of the government. And you know, if I can't, if I can't go after them and melt them down and turn them into prison bars, I think is what I said, there's a big problem. But the other side, they went up there and as what they said to the jury, his last statement the jury heard was, we have to send a message to other people out there that speak out about our elections, everybody. And that's why they put it at 60 million against my pillow and myself. They also, Steve, they actually, they actually indirectly mentioned war room policy. They said Mike Lindell's been out there doing shows and spread and spreading disinformation and using promo codes. I think what happened, Steve, is he used a promo code that didn't give the specials that the war room policy get with promo code war room. And I'll tell you this guy, I.
Jack Posobiec
Hope your lawyer, I hope your lawyer in court gave. Gave our promo code in case a jury wanted to buy a lumpy pillow afterwards. Just saying.
Mike Lindell
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Jack Posobiec
Thank you. Thank you. Mike, what is it? Insanity is no defense in your insanity plea is no defense in your case. I'm just kidding.
Mike Lindell
I'm just kidding. One last thing. One last thing, you guys. The press conference was just here and they asked me on Channel 9 news here, it's another guy called a traitor because he is. And he goes, are you going to quit now after you're going to back off if they find you guilty or if they find. Or find you money? I said, what do you think, Kyle? I said, I never stop until we secure our election here in the United States and preserve the American dream that we've all lived, including you, Kyle. So thanks, Steve. I'll get hold of you. As soon as they come out, the.
Jack Posobiec
Jury comes out, let us know. Mike Lindell, Everybody's praying for you, Mike Lindell. Mance. Put it on the line, Jack. Charlie Spearing over Daily Mail has on the fight that we gotta win. That's not. We don't have an option. We have to win this fight here in this country. We must win this fight. There is no option. If we don't win this, we don't have a country. Okay, you can't say that about the Middle East. You can't say that about Ukraine. You can't even say that about Taiwan. You know how rabid I am about Taiwan. They're. The economy changes overnight, but you still have a country. We don't win this one in the Third World War. We don't have a country. Charlie Spearing, the great Charlie Spearing, used to work with us at Breitbarts. Now the chief, I think, White House correspondent for Daily Mail, he's got a poll. What does that poll say, sir? About what? We're. What President Trump is trying to accomplish every day in these. In these big, massive Democratic sanctuary cities, sir.
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, Steve, that's right. I'm looking through and it's this new JL Partners poll and Charlie's got it up at Daily Mail and they seem to. They conducted in conjunction there. And this poll is that. It's a mega poll on L. A unrest and the Trump administration's response from JL partners. Which side are you on? 51% say we are on the side of law enforcement and only 26% say they're on the side of protesters. In fact, when it comes to immigrants, first generation immigrants say they're with the. Stay there with. Excuse me, say they're with the law enforcement. 45, 32nd generation. Even more, 53 to 31. 55% of Americans say that people in the country illegally must now leave. I want to say that again. 55% of Americans agree, an absolute majority, that people in the country illegally must now leave. And that's, that's not breaking it down by, you know, farmworkers and Ms. 13 arrest. That's all. That's all. Illegals must leave. The Democrats, of course, are associated with the violence and President Trump's support for sending the troops in, it's supported by a majority with a margin of 14 points. So, Steve, I mean, President Trump's polling on these riots, on illegal immigration right now, impeccable. Absolutely. Things, including this stunning number, 55% of Americans say that people in the country illegally must now leave.
Jack Posobiec
And that's not. By the way, Cortez has got additional polling we'll get into if we can get him up. I want to get those numbers out, Charlie. Spearing a daily mail is not exactly a MAGA platform either. So that's, you know, that's coming from a source I would say is slightly to the left of center. While we got some time, Jack, I want you to hear this. We do have victories. Remember, we're winning every day on this deportation. We just got to keep focused, keep focus. Brandon Showwater joins us. Brandon, we only got a couple of minutes. You got a big, big, big win out in California on this radical ideology. It's one of these crazy things that drives these Marxists. What do you got going on for us?
Brandon Showalter
Yes, Steve, there's tremendous good news. It was reported in the Los Angeles Times yesterday that the largest. This has been one of the largest, if not the largest child transgender, pediatric transgender clinic in the country is closing as of July 22. Earlier this year, they had been temporarily paused, and then it was unfrozen. And there had been some sort of back and forth. But due to pressure from the Trump administration and all of the executive agencies who have been empowered by his January 28th executive order to take appropriate steps and withhold funds from hospitals and that kind of thing, this is a big kahuna, Steve. This clinic was run by a woman named Joanna Olson Kennedy, who just. I won't go too deep into the weeds here, but her name surfaced on a document where she received tens of, you know, $10 million of a grant from the NIH, where in several years ago, it was exposed via FOIA that she had lowered the age for the cross sex hormone cohort inclusion Criteria in children from 13 to 8. So these were vile experiments on children. Her hospital, her clinic there in Los Angeles was one of the recipients of this grant. And now she's finally coming under some scrutiny. She's being sued for medical negligence by detransitioner. And this big center is closing. And I think, Steve, what it's going to do is start a trend. We hope that even the blue states are going to be moving away from this kind of quote unquote care, because to have the children's training in Los Angeles shut down.
Jack Posobiec
But hang on, you told us, you told us as we fought this, you said California is the railhead of the problems. This is where it's embedded in the political system. It's embedded into the economic system. These things are cash cows. These doctors are making a fortune. And you've seen the way it screwed up public schools. It's broken families in California. California is the railhead of this, of this movement. Like they have so many radical ideologies out there. This is why Stephen Miller says the future of this country is going to be fought on the streets of L. A. About these mass deportations with folks coming in here, these illegal alien invaders. The same thing with transgender ideology, is it not?
Brandon Showalter
Sir, you're right that it's embedded deep in California. I would just make a point though, about Children's Hospital, Louisiana is that this has been a, in the United States that had been really kind of pioneering it. It started in Boston. Boston Children's Hospital was the first pediatric gender clinic that opened in 2007. California, there are other institutions still in California that are doing this. But again, I just can't overstate how significant it is, Steve, to have Children's Hospital, Louisiana, that transgender clinic, close. I was just actually out in California this week and so it just was music to my ears to see this shut down. And in about a month, FTC Chairman Andrew Ferguson is going to be hosting an event at the FTC where so called gender affirming care will be exposed as consumer fraud. And there's going to be a number of speakers and panels there. You might say the Trump administration is cooking with gas. I'm hearing very good things. Also at the Department of Justice, Attorney General Bondi very much gets the issue. The federal government is using its leverage against this scourge and it's just wonderful to see.
Jack Posobiec
Sir, thank you so much. Where do people go to get your all your information?
Brandon Showalter
Christian post.com for all of my colleagues, print reporting, Generation indoctrination.com is our landing page for our documentary podcast. We're working on season five. Hope to be releasing that series soon. BRANDON M. Show on X. And I would urge everyone to still check out the deadname documentary if you go to deadname document documentary.com and it's now also available on Amazon prime and on Roku and Apple tv.
Jack Posobiec
Thank you, Brandon. Thank you for the update. Victory begins. Victory Removing the change. Jack bock, UBI UBE Chandar Chandrabar joins us now, former DIA official, Defense Intelligence Officer, Defense Intelligence Agency Former sir, give us, give us former Give, give us your give us your update on where this stands because there was a lot of chest beating this morning and there's not so much chest beating now as Tel Aviv just got wracked by these ballistic missiles, sir.
I
Look, this is a full blown war. This is a full blown war. This isn't what happened last summer when you had a tactical response by the Iranians that was measured. You had the Israelis launching strikes into Iran, but only focusing on the air defense. And then both sides stopped. This is much bigger. The Israeli government has signaled that this will be a multi day, perhaps multi week operation. This is a decapitation strike against the most senior military officials in the Iranian regime, including Ali Shamkhani, a senior adviser to the supreme Leader himself, who overlooked a number of military and nuclear program portfolios. The Israeli Mossad has penetrated Iran like Swiss cheese. They have operatives on the ground in Iran launching drones from within Iranian territory, striking against Iran's ballistic missile storage facilities and destroying a number of strategic facilities in the Natanz nuclear enrichment site. Iran has two of them, though. The one in Natanz and the one in Fordo. The one in Fordeau is deep underground in the mountains and lies adjacent to the Iranian holy city of Qom. This is, as we saw from Bibi Netanyahu's statement earlier, declaring that the Iranian people should rise up and declare their freedom. This is much broader in scope here. And there is, there is a signal here by the Israeli leadership that they are looking to bring down the regime in its entirety. Look, they've taken out now the head of the military chief of staff. That is the Iranian version of their chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They've taken out the head of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps. They've taken out the head of the Iranian air force and missile command. They've taken out the senior Quds Force operative. So imagine if the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff has been taken out, as well as the commander of U.S. central Command. That is what the Israeli military has been able to achieve against their Iranian foes while at the same time assassinating a number of senior Iranian nuclear scientists. So even if Israel is not able to penetrate all the way deep down into Fordow, that is that main strategic nuclear site under, under the ground that has all these advanced centrifuges, they have essentially set back Iran's nuclear program perhaps by decades. But we saw the Iranians have responded. They've sent these. We're seeing these harrowing images from Tel Aviv with this massive barrage by Iranian ballistic missiles.
Jack Posobiec
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I
Sir, look, Ali Khamenei, the Iranian supreme leader at this point realizes that he's lost his main deterrent with Hezbollah. Hassan Nasrallah is dead. His top senior military commanders are all dead in one night. And Tehran views this attack more than likely as an attempt to bring down the regime in its entirety. And we've already seen officials in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem saying that the Iranians have crossed a red line by launching these ballistic missiles that have struck civilian facilities and apartments in the state of Israel. So this, I don't think that this is going to be merely a tit for tat proportional attack given to a proportional response. Clearly, this is going to spiral. There is going to be a cascade effect here given that so much is at stake and the fact that Mossad has completely infiltrated Iran like Swiss cheese. It's humiliating for the Iranian regime. It is absolutely humiliated. Look, back in April, there was a New York Times article that said that the pressure that the Trump administration was putting on Ayatollah Khamenei following that letter that President Trump sent to the Iranian leader telling him, hey, you have, you have the option now to ensure that Iran, you know, the successor of the Persian Empire can succeed. It can prosper on just one condition, no nuclear weapons. But I think there's real pressure right now on Ayatoll Khamenei, fear that his regime could collapse.
Jack Posobiec
That's. Hang on for a second, Jack Bosobic, what UBE saying is correct because President Trump said, hey, I was going to send a team to negotiate, but they're all dead. What is your definition of a full blown war here and what happens if the regime cratered? Would that be a day at the beach, sir?
Stephen K. Bannon
Well, Steve, I mean, keep in mind that Iran has a number of opposition groups as well as separatist groups, Balochistan and others who would certainly capitalize on any regime change situation that would clearly lead to a form of civil war, one or another forms of civil war. This types of sectarian violence that we saw break out in Iraq after the fall of Saddam. But when you say full scale war, Steve, a full scale war, and we learned this from Ukraine, that as many drones as Ukraine might have, as many missiles as they might have, you cannot hold territory without soldiers. You cannot hold territory, maintain territory and advance on territory, gain territory without boots on the ground. And that's what Russia has been reflective of with their attrition warfare against Ukraine and particularly as we've said many times in those eastern Russian speaking provinces where they're in this attrition warfare fight over and over. And so yes, both sides are currently lobbying airstrikes back and forth. Israel starting, then Iran, then Israel again. Right now perhaps we'll see another Iranian as this would be a second this year or a fourth if you go back to about one year ago when all of this started, really April of 2024 when these attacks began. And so the question is, of course, if there is going to be a war, will that include boots on the ground? And I think it's it would necessitate boots or on the ground to be able to do that because that's the only way you can maintain territory.
Jack Posobiec
Jack, you got to bounce. We got to wrap up here. You're going to be with us tomorrow. Make us smart in the next 24 hours. Until you're back on tomorrow, what should the audience look for?
Stephen K. Bannon
Folks, what you want to look for tonight is any retaliatory strikes on the United States. We know by the way the Houthis and so many other supporters of the Iranian regime out there have abilities to put the hurt on international shipping. The Babel Mandeb, the Red Sea, the Strait of Hormuz. You've got to go and look at those ship. Leave it to the Navy guy to say it, but you've got to go and look at those shipping lanes and to understand that there are many asymmetrical ways that Iran can respond here and their proxies can respond. And I would look for that very shortly because if they want to and they've shown they've been able to do this.
Jack Posobiec
Jack social media so people can follow you tonight to join us again tomorrow.
Stephen K. Bannon
We're up at Jack Posobic. My brother at Kevin Posobic is already down there with Tim Kennedy at the D.C. parade. He's down on the street. We're going to be heading out later tonight to check out some of the preview festivities. Myself, Tanya Tay. And then of course, we'll be out in a about all day tomorrow with the war room covering both the historic parade and the 250th birthday of the US army as well as all updates in the Middle East. Steve, what can I say? We're going to be pulling double duty, but that's why it's they call it.
Jack Posobiec
The war room double duty. That's why it's called the war room. U social media. We'll get you back on over the weekend. Where do people go to find you?
I
Sir, I'm at OS 26 on Axis Oscar Sierra 2 6.
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Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room – Episode 4559: "How Israel Can Lead To Further Global Conflicts"
Release Date: June 13, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Platform: WarRoom.org
In Episode 4559 of Bannon's War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into the escalating tensions in the Middle East, focusing on Israel's recent military actions against Iran and the broader implications for global stability. The episode features insights from prominent figures, including former U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Jack Posobiec, former Defense Intelligence Agency official Ubay Chandar, and entrepreneur Mike Lindell.
Stephen K. Bannon opens the discussion by critiquing Iran's refusal to engage in diplomacy, leading to heightened aggression:
"[00:00] He's done everything humanly possible, along with Steve Witkoff, to give an off ramp to the Iranians. They chose not to take it, and they got very arrogant about it."
— Stephen K. Bannon
Mike Pompeo underscores the inevitability of conflict, emphasizing Iran's longstanding hostilities:
"[00:22] The Iranians are about to get their asses kicked. And it's been coming since Jimmy Carter..."
— Mike Pompeo
Ubay Chandar highlights Israel's unparalleled intelligence and military prowess:
"[02:01] I always felt... Israel just simply wouldn't exist if they didn't have this extraordinary intelligence capability..."
— Ubay Chandar
An unnamed military analyst further elaborates on Israel's successful operations against Iranian military infrastructure:
"[03:28] ...the terrorist wing of the military... they've taken out almost entirely many of the top brass in the army itself."
— Unnamed Military Analyst [04:54]
The conversation shifts to the potential for the situation to spiral into a broader war. Jack Posobiec expresses concern over Israel's unilateral actions:
"[06:36] This is the primal scream of a dying regime... it's going medieval on these people."
— Jack Posobiec
Ubay Chandar warns of Iran's retaliatory capabilities and the possibility of cyber threats:
"[05:02] ...a lot of it we're not going to see, except for the results when there are dead Iranian senior military officials..."
— Unnamed Intelligence Expert [05:02]
Stephen K. Bannon summarizes the day's events, noting the partial success of Israel's strikes and the ongoing missile attacks on Tel Aviv:
"[07:26] ...Ballistic missile attacks... American air defense is engaged in its defense..."
— Stephen K. Bannon [07:26]
Jack Posobiec raises concerns about the U.S. potentially becoming entangled in another protracted Middle Eastern conflict:
"[10:06] ...the United States is becoming more and more embroiled in this... it's just another shooting war."
— Stephen K. Bannon [10:06]
The episode delves into the debate over U.S. involvement, with Jack Posobiec advocating for a cautious approach to avoid another long-term conflict:
"[07:18] ...we have to be very focused on doing this economically and not get into another shooting war in the Middle East..."
— Stephen K. Bannon
Former DIA Official Ubay Chandar emphasizes the gravity of a full-scale war, highlighting the necessity of ground troops to maintain territorial control:
"[41:19] ...Ali Khamenei realizes that he's lost his main deterrent with Hezbollah... This is a full blown war."
— Ubay Chandar
The discussion extends to how the conflict might influence other global hotspots. Stephen K. Bannon connects the Middle East tensions to Russia's stance on Ukraine, suggesting that increased instability could affect negotiations:
"[25:31] ...how this will affect Russia's negotiation posture vis a vis Ukraine..."
— Stephen K. Bannon [25:31]
Ubay Chandar comments on Iran's broader strategic objectives, including disrupting global supply chains and exerting cyber threats:
"[05:02] ...they have a great cyber program, so lots of vectors for them to respond..."
— Unnamed Intelligence Expert [05:02]
The episode also touches upon internal U.S. issues, including illegal immigration and domestic unrest. Jack Posobiec critiques the Biden administration and warns against diverting focus from national priorities:
"[07:18] ...America first... we have 10 million legal and illegal invaders in our country..."
— Jack Posobiec
Stephen K. Bannon presents polling data to bolster the argument for stringent immigration policies:
"[34:51] ...55% of Americans agree, an absolute majority, that people in the country illegally must now leave."
— Stephen K. Bannon [34:51]
As the episode concludes, Stephen K. Bannon urges listeners to remain vigilant about potential retaliatory strikes against the U.S. and emphasizes the interconnectedness of global conflicts:
"[51:15] ...if there is going to be a war, will that include boots on the ground?"
— Stephen K. Bannon [51:15]
Ubay Chandar reiterates the severity of the situation, cautioning that the ongoing conflict could lead to extensive military and civilian casualties:
"[47:25] ...the Iranian supreme leader... views this attack more than likely as an attempt to bring down the regime in its entirety."
— Ubay Chandar [47:25]
Stephen K. Bannon closes by highlighting the critical areas to monitor, including shipping lanes and potential asymmetric attacks:
"[51:56] ...many asymmetrical ways that Iran can respond here and their proxies can respond... look at those shipping lanes..."
— Stephen K. Bannon [51:56]
Israel's Military Actions: Israel has conducted significant strikes against Iranian military infrastructure, targeting senior officials and nuclear facilities.
U.S. Involvement: There is a growing debate over the extent of U.S. involvement in the conflict, with concerns about becoming entangled in another prolonged Middle Eastern war.
Global Implications: The conflict may influence other global tensions, particularly between Russia and Ukraine, and could lead to broader instability.
Domestic Challenges: The episode highlights internal U.S. issues such as illegal immigration and domestic unrest, advocating for policies focused on national priorities.
Future Outlook: Experts caution that the situation remains volatile, with potential for retaliatory strikes and asymmetric warfare impacting global security.
Notable Quotes:
"The Iranians are about to get their asses kicked. And it's been coming since Jimmy Carter."
— Mike Pompeo [00:22]
"Israel just simply wouldn't exist if they didn't have this extraordinary intelligence capability."
— Ubay Chandar [02:01]
"55% of Americans agree, an absolute majority, that people in the country illegally must now leave."
— Stephen K. Bannon [34:51]
"This is a full blown war. This isn't what happened last summer..."
— Ubay Chandar [47:25]
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