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Episode 4565: President Trump Heads To The Situation Room
Episode 4565: President Trump Heads To The Situation Room...
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Steve Bannon
There aren't many people representing the, hey, let's have less violence and focus on America side of things. I think we're going to see the end of American empire. Obviously other nations would like to see that. And this is a perfect way to scuttle the USS America on the shoals of Iran. But it's also going to end, I believe, Trump's presidency. In an interview with the Atlantic, Trump hit back at some of these critics, saying he is the one who came up with America first in the first place. So, so he gets to decide what it means. This is, I mean, we were just talking about peace, right? Like Trump feel, it feels like he's a little bit at war with himself.
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Tucker Carlson
Because he said all the time, I.
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Steve Bannon
Mean, he wants to be known as the peacemaker, the dealmaker, the guy who ends wars. And yet here he finds himself defending another war. Well, I don't know. I don't think Trump's defending the war. Trump's defending Israel's actions. And within a week or two, he's going to try to find an off.
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Tucker Carlson
Ramp to bring it to peace.
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Steve Bannon
And as for Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, they aren't, they do not define what the mag or the conservative base is. There's two idiot conspiracy theorists. The base, the MAGA base, the conservative base, believe me, they're all behind Trump and that's it. He's the one that calls the shots on what kind of defines that MAGA base. And he's not trying to get us into a war, he's trying to get us out of that war. And yes, and he understands the political ramifications if it goes too long, if it doesn't work out. So that's why I think he's back in D.C. doing everything they can to kind of cut a deal to end this dividend than the governor's give him credit for meaning. I think that this is really a divisive issue within maga. I don't think everyone in MAGA is saying, ok, you know, we're with Trump on this. I think there a number, a good number of high profile MAGA figures who are saying this is not what we signed up for. Now, does that mean they're going to stop supporting Donald Trump? No, but, but, but it means that on this issue we're seeing a fracture that we have not seen up to this point within Magda world. And that's, that is a big deal. South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. Senator, you know, you were praising the president for his patience and seeking peace and going back to the table and back to the table. You can't say that he didn' try to give them an out, an opportunity, knowing what the eventual outcome was going to be. And, you know, he said, I told them it's a shame, it's a waste of human life. They can't have a nuclear weapon and everyone should immediately evacuate Tehran. How do you interpret that, sir? Well, I take President at his word. He gave Iran 60 days to do a deal. On the 61st day, we are where we are. There's two ways to stop Iran from having a nuclear weapon. One is diplomacy, the other is force. I think the headline tonight is we're moving into the land of force. I think Iran has allowed themselves to be fooled into thinking they could manipulate Trump. Same old tactics with the wrong guy when it comes to Trump. To all those who voted for President Trump and got him in office, God bless you. He's the right guy at the right time. These are dangerous times. Why do we say no nuclear weapon for Iran? They're a religious theocracy. They're built around an extreme version of Islam. They want to destroy Saudi Arabia and the Sunni branch of Islam. They want to kill all the Jews in Israel and come after us. That's what their whole country is built upon. A theocratic view that there's nobody else in the world but them when it comes to worshiping God. If they had a nuclear weapon, they would use it. Israel believes that. I believe that. So here's the task at hand. Be all in President Trump in helping Israel eliminate the nuclear threat. If we need to provide bombs to Israel, provide bombs. If we need to fly planes with Israel, do joint operations. But here's the bigger question. Wouldn't the world be better off if the Ayatollahs went away and replaced by something better? Wouldn't Iran be better off? Tom Cotton is coming on. He made a great observation. The endless war is Iran. Since 1979, they've been attacking the entire region chanting death to America, death to Israel, since their very founding. It's time to close the chapter on the Iranian Ayatollah and his henchmen. Let's close that chapter soon and start a new chapter in the Mid east. One of tolerance, hope and peace.
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Tucker Carlson
What specifically is better than a ceasefire?
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Steve Bannon
What are you looking for here? An end, a real end, not a ceasefire.
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Tucker Carlson
So something that will be permanent or.
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Steve Bannon
Giving up entirely, Is that okay too?
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Tucker Carlson
Are you close? There is.
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Steve Bannon
How are you possible?
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Tucker Carlson
Is that possible? Why not? Certainly possible.
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Steve Bannon
Complete give up. That's possible. The President saying He would be in the White House situation room this morning. And he also posted this after touching down, quote, I have not reached out to Iran for peace talks in any way, shape or form. According to the Washington Post, ICE officials told agents they must continue the sweeps after hearing from DHS leadership that the White House does not support an exemption policy. An assistant secretary for DHS said yesterday, quote, worksite enforcement remains a cornerstone of its immigration crackdown efforts and there are no, quote, safe spaces for industries. The paper also reports White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, an architect of Trump's immigration policy, privately opposed carving out exemptions for certain industries that rely heavily on workers without legal status, according to two people with knowledge of his advocacy in recent days. So let's explain this, too. There may, there may actually be even more to this politically for domestic politics.
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Tucker Carlson
MAGA politics more than anything else.
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Steve Bannon
Tucker Carlson going on Steve Bannon show yesterday and again saying that Donald Trump going along with Netanyahu could not only destroy the American empire, but also destroy his presidency.
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Tucker Carlson
We've heard other people, other Fox News.
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Steve Bannon
Commentators and others out there in the.
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Tucker Carlson
Right wing MAGA sort of media sphere.
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Steve Bannon
Talking about this civil war that's coming.
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Tucker Carlson
Domestically inside saying that Donald Trump's going.
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Steve Bannon
To destroy his presidency.
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Tucker Carlson
So is that what he's saying?
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Steve Bannon
Donald Trump supporting Israel is really America first. And that's why people need to just.
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Tucker Carlson
You know, people on MAGA base need.
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Steve Bannon
To go along with this. Yeah, that's the subtext here. There's been a real divide in the last couple of days and it really exploded yesterday, as you said. So almost a civil war within the MAGA movement. There's the Tucker Carlson wing that is saying don't be involved in, in Iran. You know, when Donald Trump first ran for office 10 years ago yesterday, he pledged to no more be not be involved these forever wars. No more Middle east entanglements and the like. America first, much more of an isolationist view. Then there's the other side of this. Mark Levine, Charlie, and some of the Rupert Murdoch and others members of that wing who say, no, now is the time where Iran is weak, the US should be involved, if not directly, but at least support Israel's efforts. And there is a schism here. And President Trump well aware of this schism. He in fact called Tucker Carlson kooky last night in a social media post after Carlson called him complicit in what we're seeing in Iran right now. And I am told by people close to the president, he's mindful of trying to Satisfy both bases. And that's why we're getting a little bit of a waffling as to. He's not quite sure how to navigate this very fast moving situation in the Middle East. Israelis are on edge. The Israelis do feel that they have the upper hand. They have the upper hand militarily, as you've been talking about. The Israeli Air Force says it now has complete freedom of operation over Tehran. But the Iranians are still firing some missiles at Israel, but last night on a relatively small scale, not this massive attack that they had been threatening. And one thing, Joe, you mentioned earlier about the concern that these early military successes that Israel is having, will it give it a false sense of security? Will it lead to more action? Is there a 2002 dynamic here? And that is exactly what many senior officials across the Middle east who I'm speaking to are worried about. They're telling me that this all feels like 2002 all over again, that there's discussion of redrawing the map of the Middle east, changing the mentality of the Middle east, regime change in the Middle East. Allegations of weapons of mass destruction imminently being ready and imminently going to be used in a variety of locations. And not here necessarily in Israel, but across the Arab world. I'm hearing this on a daily basis. People are worried, are we back in 2002? Are we back in 2003 all over again? This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Tucker Carlson
And where do people like that go.
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Steve Bannon
To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Tucker Carlson
War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
It's Tuesday the 17th of June, the year of our Lord 2025. The President did come back from Calgary from the G7, obviously to deal with the situation in the Middle East. Also, I think he was getting pretty bored hanging out with those guys. You could tell, you know, he's not a fan of a couple of three of those guys, starting with the President of France. The we're on the on tenter hooks. It's is there going to be some sort of military engagement by the United States and what's going on in Persia, or is President Trump going to have Steve Witkoff one more time, give him a hey, here's the deal. Either do this deal, you can't have a nuclear weapon. I can't emphasize enough how much President Trump has been emphasizing this since he got on the plane last night. He's told the Persians they can't have a nuclear weapon. They're not going to have a nuclear weapon. And we'll see if they go the route of trying to make a deal. Although I'm not so sure how much outside of Fodor, I'm not so sure how much of their actual nuclear infrastructure even exists. Israelis have the idf, the air force has air superiority. I would actually say air supremacy, I think, over Tehran. And they're essentially firing at will, or it seems like that. So this is going to. Who knows how long this regime even lasts. In fact, there's all this discussion. Has the Israeli plan started with taking out the nuclear capabilities? Has it been regime changed? We said on Friday morning it looked like it was a decapitation move of everything except the religious leaders, but certainly the military and President Trump. There's reports President Trump said, no, we're not going to go after, not going to allow you to go after the and assassinate the religious leaders. Who knows if that has changed? Who knows if even many of those guys are still alive. President Trump's been pretty adamant that the negotiating team at the senior level that Wyckoff was supposed to meet with, I think he said publicly they're all dead, right? So I'm sure they have other people deputies. But obviously President Trump is pretty adamant they're not going to have nuclear weapons. He's been adamant from the beginning, as we in the war room have been adamant. We think there's a way to go about it that uses economic warfare and allows the, the Persian people to overthrow these, the mullahs, because the mullahs are, there's no question whether they're bad guys or not. They're essentially very bad guys. President Trump now, I think, weighing and measuring what's going to happen here. Is he going to continue on trying to make a deal and have them give up their nuclear weapons? And he was pretty specific that we could go in and tear it apart, break it down, which is very much different than to verify the verification prospects they were talking about. And President Trump I think says, hey, I had a deal with you. Guys, you had the deal, you could have signed the deal, you didn't and you got what you got. There's obviously a lot of pressure. You saw Lindsey Graham last night, Tom Cotton, the whole Fox network. You heard it from Tucker yesterday. The Fox network has been relentless in pressuring, trying to pressure President Trump to get in here and actually give which would be essentially air assets, combat air assets, both refueling possibilities, the bunker busting bombs, particularly American combat sorties into into Persia. That all hangs in the balance. The president United States I believe is either have already met at least on an interim basis with his National Security Council, his top national security advisors and or is going to do that shortly and I'm sure in and out throughout the day they'll be, they'll be doing that and President Trump will be, will be weighing and measuring what he's going to do and we'll see how this day proceeds. But right now I can tell you there's a tremendous amount of pressure on President Trump saw from Lindsey Graham last night. In fact I might play that clip again but I'm afraid that some of the war impossible I can look at the live chat may have heart palpitations. Hopefully you know, somebody arises out of South Carolina to try to challenge Lindsay because he's been the tip of the tip of the spear both in Ukraine and now in Persia. We're gonna take a short commercial break. John Solomon broke a huge look. We wouldn't have been in this mess in this situation if it not been for the illegitimate Biden regime. Remember those guys kind of came in for four years between first president Trump term and second president Trump term. How did that happen? The election was stolen. We've been adamant about that. We got banned on every platform in the world. You know Spotify has welcomed us back. Go check us out at Spotify at Banners war room and leave us a review. We'd love to get that or if you do go on Apple leave us a review. We'd love to hear your comments and observations. But it's a stolen election of 2020. John Solomon's got an amazing story about guess what, the Chinese Communist party involved in the big steal in 2020. He's got an exclusive. Solomon will join us. Senator Josh Hawley would join us. Mike Lindell this July there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. 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Tucker Carlson
Look, I understand America first. I don't understand America dead. That's what these people want. They chant Death to America. So we're doing something that is in the service of mankind, of humanity, and it's a battle of good against evil. America does, should and does stand with the good. That's what President Trump is doing and I deeply appreciate his support.
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Steve Bannon
John Carl joins me now. So Jon, what else did he say about President Trump and how he wants the US to play a role here? Or did he? Well, look, he praised President Trump over and over again in this interview. He knows that he needs the United States support, at least in terms of doing what the US Is doing now, which is helping Israel defend itself from those retaliatory attacks from Iran. So it was all couched in a thank you, President Trump. You've been Israel's best friend, but he made it clear that he would like to see more. He didn't come out and directly say it in those ways, but what you heard, what you played right there. I understand America first. I don't understand America dead. He is really speaking to those in the Trump movement, those in the MAGA movement who are adamantly opposed to the United States getting involved in another Middle east conflict. And as you know, Kira, there are some prominent voices, supporters, outside advisors of Donald Trump, who are saying don't get involved. The United States can't be involved. You campaigned against forever wars, people like Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk. Those are, you know, Close supporters of Donald Trump who are saying that they don't think the United States should be involved in this and Netanyahu, it seemed to me by using their language. I understand America First. I don't understand America Dead was speaking directly to Donald Trump and to his supporters who are critical of what Israel is doing. Okay, here's what we'd like to do an exercise. I tried it last night, but in the live chats because we have, you know, so many people in these live chats. All of them, you know, get a rev the telegram, of course, the bruisers over at Rumble. I love the Rumble crowd. I love all the crowds. The Rumble will tell you what they think. Think quickly. Give us a response right now. Like to hear what's your thoughts on Netanyahu's it's, it's not America first, it's America Dead. I'd like to have your response to that because he's addressing you. So let's get some feedback on that as we go. Like I said, President Trump weighing and measuring what's going on. I think to be I do report that the rapid response I think over at the, the White House has put out a something by General Kurilla over at, over at centcom. I'll put that up in the, in the chats right now so you can see it and we'll address that in the next thing. His, his looks like his intelligence or his estimate is a little different than DNI and Tulsi Gabbard and the entire crowd over there. We really haven't heard the CIA pitch in, although Tulsi Gabbard is supposed to collect in collate all that as DNI and you would assume the CIA's analysis will be in there. So we will obviously stay on top of this as the morning progresses. And I will just tell you I think there's a lot of activity going on that we're here because of the stolen 2020 election. You know that that's why you President Trump's hardest court supporters, you were with him in the breach. There's an awful lot of people I notice right now saying how they're true MAGA and they're pure maga. I don't think anybody at FOX can possibly be true MAGA and hardcore maga. And the reason is to be brutally frank, when President Trump had the election stolen from him and had the White House taken away and he went back to Mar a Lago for that year 2021, because everybody at Fox takes a paycheck from Murdoch, you all supported DeSantis and Nikki Haley and whoever else came along right. As a opportunity for to take replace President Trump. So if you work at fox, by definition, you can't be true. Maga just it's impossible. We were here, remember this audience? There was a couple of very lonely days, weeks and months before President Trump, I think, took the CPAC in Orlando and went back and gave that amazing speech that he was coming back and had thought it through in a month and a half. And we knew he would always come back. But you had his back in the darkest days because you believe in President Trump. One of the most important things that's happening and one of the things I'm concerned that doesn't get the attention right now is President Trump has really come out and doubled and tripled down on the ice, removals of mass deportations. This in the middle of a firestorm against him on that President Trump is hanging beyond tough. In fact, I think it's. The Washington Post has a huge article how there's been a reversal already. Stephen Miller and the team over there have reversed this policy of the, I think coming from the Agriculture Department, that we're not going to be any ICE raids and agriculture and hotels and restaurants, all that. That's, that's not the case at all. In fact, President Trump, in a series of True Socials, number one, said the other day, 20 million illegal alien invaders that are going to be mass deported, deported, number one. He also said the ICE raids, particularly in sanctuary cities, and he means L A, Chicago, New York, all these sanctuary cities, these inner cities run by these radical Democrats, they're going to triple down on ICE rates, triple down on ICE rates, going, you know, going to ratchet it up, not going to back off, going to ratchet it up. And, and then last night, this reversal of this ag policy that DHS had for, I think less than 24 hours, obviously, when President Trump got to focus on it with somebody because he's got the way the world on his shoulders right now reversed that. So very, very, very, very important. Mike Lindell, so the mainstream media tells me you lost the defamation case yesterday and you owe a guy two and a half million bucks. Although my pillow was excluded from that judgment. And therefore, you know, the company still exists. What's the reality? Because I've seen your statements and your messages that it was actually a victory for you. You don't have to pay, pay anything. You're going to appeal. Just walk us through exactly what happened.
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Tucker Carlson
Well, first of all, everybody, we were up against a judge that said Right away she said, you did commit defamation. So she had. They had like 30 statements that were made or more than that, I guess. And each one, the jury had to decide. She had already ruled. It was a very strange way to go into court. You were already at, of course, it was Denver. And it was, we went at this very different, different kind of court that I'd never seen. It was, you know, everything we, everything we brought forward was overruled, overruled and overruled. And so we were up against that now. But the biggest thing is my pillow was sued by three different companies, the machine companies and their affiliates. And this is what I've been upset about for four years. If you're going to sue a company that advertises somewhere and something said or something's done, you're not going to have any advertisers in our country. Well, MyPillow came out victorious. We were the first ones that went all the way to jury trial. Everyone else, but back then, when they sued over 100 companies and businesses and I mean, companies and people were the only ones who took it all the way to jury trial with your Helpsey. And, and we won. It was unanimous all the way. Every single thing that they, when they brought up my pill 100% victory. Now the media is coming out saying, well, you owe all this, Mike Lindell, you owe all this. Well, that's what appeals are for, Steve. And the. I was very happy to come out the way it was, the way it came out, because they've been wanting to destroy my voice since the beginning, since back in 21.
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Steve Bannon
Yeah, but hang on a second. But hang on a second. Appeals are only on points of law. Law. What specifically in points of law are your attorneys pointing to that. Because appeals almost, it almost never gets appealed, overturned on a, at an appellate level. Sometimes it does where there's major breaches in the law. Your attorneys telling you there's been a major breach in the law here.
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Tucker Carlson
Yeah, there's been, there's been. We have a laundry list of it, to be honest with you. And, but also, they never, one of the things that's really important, they never proved any, any loss. Any, any, any loss. I mean, it was like they had to prove that there was, you know, $2 million in law somewhere that they, that the, the plaintiff got. And, and it came down to Steve, too. It was two statements of my, myself, two. One of them was when they made a dirty deal with Newsmax. So I couldn't go on there or talk about my pillow and the Other one was when I was served on the steps of the state capitol. But after your company or anybody's companies attack like that, I shot back, I'm not going to sit and take it and just oh, okay, that's okay. You go after my employee owned company. And but we've got a lot. Steve will have reports this week. I know they're working hard on that. They want to get something done here in the next seven days. But one of the things is damages. There is no damages shown. They really focused on, you know, the, their, the 2020 election, overturning the 2020 election. And there was so many things they didn't let in that, that I wanted to bring in, that my lawyers wanted to bring in. It was block, block, block, block, block. So I think that might be some of the, some of the things because every time that happened I'd go into kind of a panic and they're going, Mike, this is all, if they do this and it comes out right, this is all part of the appeal, appeal process. So I'm, I think it's a, for my pillow for our country. It's the first victory involving this 2020 election. And I'm going to tell you, Steve, while I was there, you know, this does all came out of Colorado media where it's going all over the country that, you know, Mike Lindell lost and all this rubbish. I, I feel very much that it was a great victory for us in our country and a week ago a great president. They requested from Colorado, which is the tip of the spear right now of all the stuff that happened in the 2020 election. And he requested all the cast vote records and the data records from the 2020 election, 2022 and 2024. Well, I'll tell you what, they're not going to have anything from 2020 and 2022. Colorado delete stuff and gets rid of stuff faster than they're printed. They so that came about. So I was arguing with the Colorado media there. I was there for almost a month. It was a battle every day with them. I seen protesters firsthand that were coming after me.
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Steve Bannon
And Mike, hang on, hang on for a moment. I want to hold you through here because I want to ask about these to the green answer, these other cases that you got coming, I think from the machine companies themselves. Mike Lindell claiming victory in Colorado. He's going to appeal whatever turned against him. But I guess my pillow came out free and clear. So he lives to fight another day. We're going to take a short commercial break. World in turbulence could get more turbulent this afternoon. I think we just got a posting on the is that just happened on the White House that this just happened. Just get posted. Trump has always been clear Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Certainly Mr. President fully understand it. We're going to get into that. He just posted I think@the whitehouse.com short commercial break back in a moment. There's something happening with our farmland here in the United States that isn't getting enough attention. The Chinese have been buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of U.S. farmland. They're also taking control over critical supply chains, things like fertilizer, animal feed and farming equipment. Why? It's not clear. They're tightening their grip on global food production. That is clear. And if things go south and it could happen quickly, we need to be ready. That's why I trust my Patriot Supply. They're America's largest emergency preparedness company. And right now when you get their 4 week emergency food supply, you'll get a free 4247 food kits, an extra 12 days of food absolutely free. Okay. Full stop. You're gonna have to insert this. Okay. And right now when you get there, four week emergency food supply, you'll get four free 72 hour food kits, an extra 12 days of food absolutely free. Let me repeat that. You're going to get four free 72 hour food kits. That's an extra 12 days of food and it's absolutely free. That's four weeks of delicious meals that last up to 25 years, delivering 2,000 plus calories per day. It's shipped fast and it's shipped free. We can't control what the Chinese Communist Party does. You can't control what China does. But we can control how prepared we are. Go to my patriotsupply.com today to claim your 12 days of free food. Shop my patriotsupply.com my patriotsupply.com do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you.
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Tucker Carlson
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
Okay. Charlie Gasparino, who you know, gets a lot of scoops. Let me just put this up. Breaking top Wall street market watchers, I.e. cEOs, economists and the government affairs officials are closely reading the tea leaves on the possibility of Trump greenlighting the bunker busters on Iran for its obvious market implications. Sources tell me they read from the at White House this is the what we just said has been put up. It came up a little earlier this morning, but it's a whole litany of President Trump's over and over again. Telling the Iranians they cannot have a nuclear weapon. They read from the they say is that no decision has been made. But Trump is warming up to the idea if Iran doesn't engage in talks soon to end its nuclear program. This comes amid intense opposition from some quarters of the MAGA coalition to any U.S. involvement. The obvious short term market implication is on oil, US stocks, dollar story developing. We've always been a huge supporter of President Trump and Iran cannot have. The Persians can have a nuclear weapon. No doubt about that. His I thought strategy of hammering them and negotiating with them and we still had not gone up the escalatory ladder on economic warfare, which brought them to the knees. Remember when the regime over there had a problem, I think in 22, it was because of the sanctions President Trump had put in. And those weren't anywhere near the sanctions that could be put in today. Really, economic warfare, remember the regime, not that it got overthrown, but for the first time in the streets you saw a real uprising of people and you saw the. Which is the way that regimes, I believe, have to be overthrown by the people. If you can exacerbate that by economic warfare, just, you know, making sure they don't have access to capital markets and don't have access to, to commerce, as is your want, because you've got to, you know, it comes through things that you control, then therefore you can do it. This is what the sanctions program has been in the economic warfare. I'm still very upset that, I don't know, they state a million and a half or 1.6 million barrels. I think it's closer to two and a half. People say it's maybe three. When they do the black market, they're. They're basically giving, I believe the Chinese Communist Party 22% of their total energy intake. And to me that's always been unacceptable. I don't know why we haven't cut that off. You got three carrier battle groups. They have two carrier battle groups in the Nimitz steaming from the Pacific through the Straits of Malacca to head across the Indian Ocean to get to the North Arabian Sea. It seems to me it wouldn't be that big a difficulty to block it. President Trump, I do believe, has given the Iranians, hey, you got a shot here to make a deal. It's not, it's not. He's not looking for a ceasefire. He's not looking for peace deal. He's looking for your eradication, total capacity of your nuclear weapons. And I think if they take it and jump on it and Meet with Witkoff and try to figure something out quickly. Basically sign a document that he gives them maybe with very little changes. There's a possibility he won't engage in combat operations. But people have to understand that is being considered. So just take that and take it on board today and begin to think about it. I'd like to hear more response on this. BB it's not about America first, about America dead. Your response to that because that was addressed to you. Okay. As much of the propaganda that comes out of Fox, it is propaganda. So Beebe was hitting you right between the eyes with a little love tap. So answer back, Michael Andell, is this going to have any. Isn't the bigger issue here is not the defamation suit by this individual but really the bigger suits that Fox and others settled? I think Newsmax.
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Tucker Carlson
Absolutely.
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Steve Bannon
Are you still entangled? Are you still entangled in that or have they eased up? And what are your lawyers telling you about what happened in Colorado towards that, towards those cases, sir?
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Tucker Carlson
Well, interesting you bring that up, Steve, because the lawyers for at least two of the machine companies were there and the one of them is why are you here? Well, you know, they're watching everything close and because that breakthrough that my pillow had that we broke that wall down and, and, and then you combine that with what our great president's doing and with his executive order, Tulsi Gabbard coming out with all the stuff now that's going to be found in the 2020 election, this stuff's all going to get exposed. Steve, as you know, I'm never going to stop. The media was there now, Mike, are you, you know, you've been here for a month. Are you going to stop now? You know, you're just relentless. I said absolutely not. We have to secure our election and save our country. So our great presence, I promised him, I said we can't let the four years, these great, these next four years be in vain. We've got to secure elections now. And they, but those machine companies sat right in that courtroom the whole time. And that is the bigger picture, everybody. And remember, they also sued MyPillow for using promo codes. This is my business model. They went after mypillow employee owned company and you know, just to suppress their voice. That's what Lawfare is all about, everybody. This came up in the courtroom where I believe it was Alan Dershowitz that said it back in January of 21. Lawfare had not been used this widespread since the 1700s. I mean they sued over 100 people and platforms and Sent threatening letters out to over 150 people. And it's all about suppressing our voice. There were very few places that I could go and talk about securing our elections and that. And Steve, it was your show. Most, you know, they, most of the time back in 21, when we were all by ourselves and going, hey, there's problems, there's problems. And I, I really think we broke that. When I went in there with prayers and put everything we had into the, into this fight out in Colorado, my prayer was that my pillow. We had to have one breakthrough. My pillow was it. And I think that's gonna now, like I say.
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Steve Bannon
When. When did Fox stop allowing you. They stopped booking you as a guest because you were all over FOX as, as an advertiser. When did they stop booking you as a guest?
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Tucker Carlson
They did it actually when Smartmatic sued Fox News on, on February 4th of 2021. But Newsmax was the key to this case. What they did is they stopped having me on a guest even to talk about my pillow. And that was in April and early May of 21. That's when this guy that worked for this company here, this Kumar, when they made this deal with Newsmax, I was never able to go on and talk about my pillow. Giving money to the hurricane victims or the flood victims or, you know, we tied 10% of all our money at my pillow. That's written in our bylaws. And to not be in hiring veterans and hiring people, me being ex addict, hiring ex addicts, that giving them second chances. I could never go on Newsmax anymore to talk about those things. And since that time that got brought up in court, it cost my pill over $20 million over four years. And because they wanted to suppress my voice. So to me, they came at me from every angle known to man. They canceled all the box stores on my pillow, the shopping channels. They came out at every angle. Let's just destroy Mike Lindell and it. And, and my pillow. And they almost succeeded, but we won. We. We broke. That's right.
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Steve Bannon
Well, we got your back, by the way. That's what I'm saying. Anybody says they're pure MAGA and true maga, been there from the beginning. Anybody took a paycheck from Fox during that time, it just, it's obvious because they, they, they turned on everybody that supported President Trump on the big steel, which is essential. What did President Trump say, the reason he came back and ran? He said this at Charlie Kirk's Turning Point conference in Phoenix in December of last year. He came in and he said what President Trump said is the reason he stood on the stage, said the reason that I ran is because I knew they had stolen the election and I had to make things right. And this is why we got to get to the bottom of the formal investigation of this. You're not going to, you're not going to do this until you adjudicate this. Mike, we're burning daylight here. I got a bounce, but sell me a pillow as, as a, as a congratulations for your victory. And I need a couple of dollars to pay your. Pay your fine to this guy or whatever. If you don't get it overturned on, on an appeal. Sell me a pillow.
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Tucker Carlson
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Steve Bannon
Steve, thank you, brother. Look for you this afternoon. Glad you're back from Denver. There's so much good going on, you know. Miranda Devine on her new podcast, the Great Moreno Devine has interviewed our own Scott Bessant, currently the Secretary of the treasury, in an exclusive interview. You're going to play it when I talk about so many good things are going on that are being distracted by this, by this war and understand war and peace. And as I said from the beginning, we looked at the three verticals. The one that he's going to focus on first and has to get done is to lay down, everybody lay down their guns on this kinetic part of the Third World War, which we're in. And President Trump has tried to move heaven and earth on this thing. And now that war has expanded, it's just, you got to call, you know, you got to call. Like you say, it has expanded. President Trump trying to shut that down. White House is coming out and reiterating. President Trump has always said they can't have a nuclear weapon. I think that's pretty consistent with everybody. President Trump's method of doing that, which is going to be a combination of diplomacy, but not really diplomacy, negotiation, using leverage. That leverage being economic warfare and if it had to be, you know, eventually kinetic, after he ran out of every other option. He was adamant though, that he can't, he can't have a nuclear weapon that's pretty stable. But there's so much good stuff going on. Number one is that there's an exclusive. We're going to get to it in a second. After the break, Blue collar wage growth under Trump sees largest increase in nearly 60 years. Scott Bessant lays that out to the New York Post today and to Miranda Devine also on the major front of this war because remember, the three things is, one is get our sovereignty back, seal the border, which he's done, hasn't. We haven't gotten the, the, the hard material ceiling of it, but he's done it with, with troops and with refocus of executive orders by customs and border. But the mass deportations of folks and people that are here, the illegal alien invaders that were brought here and invited here by the Biden, the illegitimate Biden regime, because it all goes back to the stolen election of 2020. And on that, with a little, you know, kind of, oh, my gosh, can we do this? President Trump reiterated what's been happening in la. And I totally agree with Stephen Miller. You can argue the future of the country is going to be determined by what's happening in the streets of Los Angeles as we go through more mass deportation. Not simply the criminals and not simply the insane asylums, the bad hombres, but the mass deportations of people that are here are not citizens. You know, Morning Joe this morning on msnbc, last night, cnn, they're sitting there going, oh, this is, you know, terrible. The economy's going to go down. You either have a country you don't. And President Trump is hanging in there. And this reversal of the Agriculture Department trying to insert itself about the mass deportations of agriculture workers and hotel workers and restaurant workers, well, as you see in that town in Nebraska, when they've put out the help wanted, it looks like it's being flooded with American citizens, as Steve Cortez said, many of whom speak Spanish right, they're Hispanics. His polling yesterday is still blowing. Still, it's about mass deportations, not about immigration, but mass deportations and the support of the American people is simply overwhelming. Short breaks, back in a moment. There's a lot of talk about government debt. But after four years of inflation, the real crisis is personal debt. Seriously, you're working harder than ever and you're still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. You need done with debt and here's why you need it. The credit system is rigged to keep you trapped. Done With Debt has unique and frankly, brilliant escape strategies to help end your debt fast so you keep more of your hard earned money. Done With Debt doesn't try to sell you a loan and they don't try to sell you a bankruptcy. They're tough negotiators that go one on one with your credit card. In loan companies with one goal, to drastically reduce your bills and eliminate interest and erase penalties. Most clients end up with more money in their pocket month one, and they don't stop until they break you free from debt permanently. Look, take a couple of minutes and visit donewithdebt.com talk with one of their strategists. It's free, but listen up. Some of their solutions are time sensitive, so you'll need to move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com Stop the anxiety, stop the angst. Go to donewithdebT.com and do it today. Good news, haven't you, about blue collar wage growth.
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Tucker Carlson
Blue collar wage growth.
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Steve Bannon
The only other time it's been this high, wait for it, was during President Trump's first term. So we've seen real wages for hourly workers, non supervisory workers rise almost 2% in the first five months. Why is that?
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Tucker Carlson
No president has done that before.
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Steve Bannon
And why is that? It's the president's emphasis on manufacturing. I think there's also likely a component.
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Tucker Carlson
Of whether it's 12 or 20 million.
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Steve Bannon
Illegal aliens coming out of the workforce. And Joe Biden opened the border and it was flooded.
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Tucker Carlson
And that for working Americans, that's a.
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Steve Bannon
Disaster because it's pressure on their wages. Wow. 2% wage increase. 2019 for the year. I think the wages, the differential was huge between blue collar and white collar, right? Between non college graduate and college graduate. That was the time that the working class really got a break. And now you see, and part of this, we've even just started the investments here from the companies to bring manufacturing jobs back. Is it perfect? No, it's not perfect. It ain't going to be perfect. Because this is called the world that we live in. And what do I mean by that? The concentration of power that took those plants overseas and took those jobs overseas was a combination of Wall street, of capital, not just Wall street, but capital markets in the city of London, throughout Europe, also Asia, to drive the, to make an opportunity for the Chinese Communist Party. Basically say, hey, we actually have living slaves, right? The Lao Beijing, that'll work for nothing. And we can just trash our environment because we're in control here. And you can make a ton of money. Just bring your factories over. And that's what happened. People know this. Bringing those back is a process. But both bringing those back in the start what President Trump is doing, in addition sealing the border, in addition starting the deportations. Folks should know on the good news, on the major front of getting our sovereignty back. Look, it's being reported that 1 million and as Scott said, between the 12 million and the 20. Look, I'm only focused right now on what came on in Biden's regime. Let's get, let's get those. That was the invasion. Let's get that out of here. Right? Let's get those folks out of here and we can deal with the rest. The rest could be up to 40 or 50 million. But we got to do this one bite at a time and be focused, focused, focused. But look at the good things are happening. Wages are starting to rise for blue collar workers. That's the central part of this new coalition we've put together. The old Republican Party was country club Republicans and Wall street and all that crowd, right? They can't win national elections. You have to put together a new coalition. We've put that coalition together. That's why President Trump, we're in the 10th anniversary week. Aren't you still feeling the buzz and really want to thank Eric for coming on yesterday. It was great to have him there and talk about what it was like before they came down the escalator. It's one of the biggest risk, I think it's the biggest risk personally any businessman has ever taken to actually get into the cauldron, particularly with his personal other businessmen to run. But I mean somebody with the, that brought the, the media stature of Trump and already the controversy of President Trump even the time as a me for he was beloved. But you know, Trump was Trump even then the Apprentice, things he had done in the casinos, things he had done in the media landscape in New York. He was a major personality in the 80s and 90s. He dominated kind of the, not just the social scene, but the media sphere in New York City. So he came as a large personality, came with huge name recognition. Remember, even with that name recognition, he was at the, on the top of the escalator in seventh coming down after the speech to the American people which he talked about, guess what? Bringing jobs back from China and most importantly sealing our border and stopping the invasion. That's the centerpiece of our movement. And we can only get those done if we're not dragged into forever wars. We understand what the apparatus wants to do. We understand their gravitational pull is always that that's always in everywhere. That's why you still have a war that hasn't been concluded in Korea. Remember one of what, a 70 year armistice on that. Now they have an armistice, just kind of a stand down in Vietnam. All the valor, by the way, the valor in Korea, Unbelievable. You read those stories, the valor in Vietnam, incredible. If you saw the parade the other day, one of the most moving things I thought was when the Hueys came across, everything those workhorses had done in Vietnam and the memories that brings back and floods people with the memories. Then you look at the first Gulf War, you've got the, you've got the war on global war on terror, Iraq and Afghanistan, all of it, all of them kind of up in the air, not really brought to a conclusion. And this is where President Trump his aim in Persia was they cannot have nuclear weapons, full stop, prepared to negotiate with them, to do that. But at the end of the day, if you're going to get there and they're going to laugh in your face and spit in your face and not do it, President Trump will use every tool in the toolbox. So that's where we are on this Friday. But to get back to the heart of it, the heart of it, you see the economics start to kick in. Big beautiful bill is being laid out. There's some issues with that. The Senate side, Senator Josh Hawley, who's kind of our one fire breathing populist in the Senate, is going to be here with that and other things. John Solomon, I was going to try to get Solomon up in the beginning, kind of tee up Mike Lindell because he's got a story that will not amaze you. It will amaze you about why it's only coming out now because I know you believed it in your heart of hearts. And that is the Chinese Communist Party was engaged and involved in efforts to steal the 2020 election. Why was that? Because they knew they had a new sheriff in town. President Trump with Lighthizer Navarro, negotiated for two years, really from the spring, early summer of 2017 until 2019, May of 2019, in 2019, with a full deal negotiated for two years that would take care of all the seven original sins. We said the Chinese Communist Party economically would fold them into a global economy. They ripped it up, spit in President Trump's face and said no deal. Shortly thereafter, some sort of flu hit in the military games around in Wuhan, the city of Wuhan. That was in August and September of 2019. Then in 2020, the pandemic fully blew up around the around the globe. Their effort was always to remove Trump from office. The Chinese Communist Party and Johnson Solomon is bringing the receipts courtesy of Cash Patel at the FBI, which I think released this last night. Okay, short commercial break. Take your phone out right now. It's is it turbulent enough for you folks? You ain't seen nothing. This is going to get so much more turbulent. Just as you're in a fourth turning, as the Chinese say, you live in interesting times. That is an actual curse in China.
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Tucker Carlson
But.
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Steve Bannon
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