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Donald Trump
Harvey Weinstein but seen a better day so it won't be it'll somebody and he'll say that guy is perfect for movie you're going to become star your friends are call you even return their phone anymore know because what do living I put up flag poles I'm not talk big somewhere have anyway let's good they lifting also use another wor not But I'm not going to use that word. You know what that is the word it starts with an e. You know what the word is? If I ever used it I'd be run out of town by you people. All right. So enjoy it Doug. You're going to get some good he's going to win another Nobel Prize I think for this picture. So maybe the flag will be even more exciting. But this is pretty exciting. That's some equipment. I'll tell you what. Look at that crane. That's some beautiful equipment. It's. There's nothing like America. Have a good time, everybody.
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Brian
Have you even answered questions about whether.
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Donald Trump
You are moving closer or you believe the US is moving closer to striking Iranian nuclear facilities? Where's your mindset on that? Can't say that, right? You don't seriously think I'm going to answer that question? Will you strike the Iranian nuclear component and what time exactly? Sir? Sir, would you strike it? Would you please inform us so we can be there and watch? I mean, you don't know that I'm going to even do it. You don't know I may do it. I may not do it. I mean, nobody knows what I'm going to do. I can tell you this, that Iran's got a lot of trouble and they want to negotiate. And I said, why didn't you negotiate with me before all this death and destruction? Why didn't you negotiate? I said to people, why didn't you negotiate with me two weeks ago you could have done fine. You would have had a country. It's very sad to watch this. I mean, I've never seen anything like it. It's so, you know, everyone thought it was going to be the reverse. I didn't. I didn't think so. And I was telling them, you got to. You got to do something. You got to negotiate. And at the end, last minute, they said, no, we're not going to do that. And they got remember 60 days. And then came the 60. 61's gonna become a very famous number. That was one hell of a hit, that first hit. That was one hell of a hit. Not sustainable, to be honest. That's where it ended. It ended on the first night? Yes. Is it too late, though, do you think? It's too late to now, really? Nothing's too late. The only thing too late is Powell. Powell's too late. Too late Powell.
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Joe Scarborough
What, have the Iranians reach out to you?
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Donald Trump
Yes. And what did he say? I said, it's very late, you know. I said, it's very late to be talking. We may meet. It's. I don't know. There's a big difference between now and a week ago, right? Big difference. It's about anybody. They even suggested they come to the White House. It's a big difference. But they've suggested that they come to the White House. That's, you know, courageous. But, you know, it's like, not easy for them to do. But they suggest, because I can't go now because of what's going on, I had to come back early from the G7, which was terrific, by the way, in Canada. Really terrific. Good people.
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Doug
Is there a possibility of next week.
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Donald Trump
Or sooner that you're. Well, I don't know how much longer it's going to go on. They're totally defenseless. They have no air defense whatsoever. We've totally captured, you know, We've totally captured the air. Brian.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah.
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Brian
Mr. President, you've been fairly compassionate towards the Iranian people.
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Donald Trump
Suggestions? I know a lot of people from Iran, from New York, from Washington, mostly from New York. They're incredible people. They're smart, they're energetic. They can be difficult, but so can you, you know. No, they're great people. Smart people. And those people are getting the hell beat out of them now. And it's really a shame. So stupid. It's so stupid. This is another one, you know, Russia, Ukraine is so stupid. Would have never happened if I was president. You guys agree with that, right? Would have never happen if I was president. Putin would have never done it. And I spoke to him yesterday and I said, you know, he actually offered to help mediate. I said, do me a favor, mediate your own. Let's mediate Russia first, okay? I said, vladimir, let's mediate Russia first. You can worry about this later, but I think that's going to work out, too. But so many people have been killed. The big thing with that one is far more people are dead than have been reported in the Ukraine, Russia. Many, many more people. A building falls, they say, nobody was hurt. You know, Ridiculous. Two very simple words. A very simple unconditional surrender. That means I've had it, okay? I've had it. I Give up. No more. Then we go blow up all the, you know, all the nuclear stuff that's all over the place there. No, they had bad intentions. You know, the. For 40 years they've been saying death to America, death to Israel, death to anybody else that they didn't like. They were bull. They were schoolyard bullies. And now they're not bullies anymore. But we'll see what happens. Look, nothing's finished until it's finished. You know, war is very complex. A lot of bad things can happen. A lot of turns are made. So I don't know. I wouldn't say that we won anything yet. I would say that we sure as hell made a lot of progress. And we'll see. The next week is going to be very big. Maybe less than a week, maybe less. But is there anybody here that said it would be okay to have. To have a hostile. Very, you know, zealots really, but to have a hostile country, have a nuclear weapon that could destroy 25 miles. But much more than that could destroy other nations just by the breeze blowing the dust. You know that dust blows to other nations and they get decimated. This is just not a threat you can have. And we've been threatened by Iran for many years. You know, if you go back and look at my history, if you go back 15 years, I was saying we cannot let Iran get a nuclear you. Weapon. Know, I've been saying it for a long time and I mean it more now than I ever meant it. Yeah. Mr. President, a question on deportations. Mr. President, you said last week that changes would be coming for farmers who have seen a lot of the workers.
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Joe Scarborough
They rely on taken away.
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Doug
But then DHS said this week that.
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Donald Trump
Worksite enforcement would remain in place, that it's a cornerstone. So what's your message to farmers? We've got to get the bad people out of here first. And we're doing that. We're taking them out by the thousands. Murderers, drug dealers, people that are mentally insecure, insane from insane asylums. What they gave to us fellas, they gave. Do we have anybody in here that's a member? No, I don't think. But you've known all these people for a long time. Any illegal immigrants in here? Now, if they were, they'll find out. They'll be checking you. You won't believe your whole life will be destroyed because of this press conference. Watch. They'll destroy these people. I didn't want to tell them that before they stood up. They'll end up being. He's a so, and so this one is from you know, where I think you're going to be. Okay, I'll be right behind you. Far behind you. I'll be right behind you. Now, look, we have to take care of our farmers. We have to take care of people that run leisure hotels. I mean, we have to take care of them. But most importantly, we have to get the criminals out of our country. And Biden let in thousands and 11,888 murderers. Many of them murdered more than one person. Can you believe it? Many, almost 50% of them murdered more than one person. He let them into our country. They emptied out the jails of countries from all over the world. From the Congo, from Venezuela, from all over the place. They emptied out the jails, many of them. I would, if I were running one of the countries, I would have emptied out my prison population into the US and many countries did. And we're getting them out. Okay? We're getting them out. Thank you very much. Let's just watch this. Brian, go ahead. Are you okay?
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Brian
I'm just going to follow up on.
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Donald Trump
The immigration real quickly. Can you comment on the impact of the trump card and how much revenue? Yeah, we have a thing called the trump card. This has not been done before or thought of. And for $5 million, this is usually people that would either be working for companies like Apple, I think, is going to buy a lot of them because they can't get people into the country. You know, if you come in through the southern border, you have no problem. You can be a criminal, you can be a drug dealer, and you have no problem. But if you, if you go and graduate number one in your class from a great school, you can't get a job because there's no access to getting it. You can't get a green card. So we're going to sell that to people, in some cases wealthy, in some cases not wealthy. They'll be paid for by universities. Look at Harvard. They got $53 billion. That whole thing is coming to an end. It's. It's amazing what we, what we found out. What a disgrace. Fifth, they have $53 billion. We gave them five, six. And some people say it's as much as $9 billion over a short period of time. So that's very much coming to. They want to make a deal more than. I would say Harvard wants to make a deal more than Iran wants to make a deal, and Iran wants to make a deal. But I mean, a lot of things. Look, a lot of things are happening on a Lot of fronts, Brian. A lot of good things are happening. And frankly, you know, it's a little bit of a. As we used to say liberal, now they say progressive. I use the word liberal. Progressive is too nice a word because they're destroying the country. They're really destroying. These liberal politicians are destroying our country. Look what they've done during Biden's four years. I mean, we're working on. I mean, so much of our effort goes to getting people out of the country that should have never been here in the first place. What he. What he's done to this country, it's not him. He had no idea what was going on. Everybody knows that. It's other people. It's Lisa and this one. And that all these people, all this scum that was around the Oval, you know, the Oval Office, or around the beautiful Resolute desk, telling this guy here, do this, do that, and not even telling them, they just go over to the auto pan and sign whatever the hell they wanted to sign. Because, say what you want about Biden, he wasn't for open borders. He wasn't for transgender, for everybody. He wasn't for men playing in women's sports, but he has no idea what the hell. He has no idea. And they were very upset. They wanted Bernie Sanders. And after about a week or this guy, they said, wait a minute. We just hit gold. This guy has no clue. He'll do anything we tell him. And then they realized they don't even have to get permission. They just go up to the auto pen. That's a subversion. That's a takeover of our government, and you people ought to start looking at it. That's a takeover. Not only did they cheat, I guess you saw yesterday, came out with China and the license plates. Tens of thousands of cards. They used those cards to vote on the second election. My second, the one. 2020. Because as everybody here knows, I won that election by a lot. But the only good thing I can say is this is a much more historic term than I think I could have had as a second term. This is a much more historic election. And now we're going to put up a beautiful flag pole, and we're going to put up a flag, and I hope you enjoy it. And let's see how real people work. These are real people. You're not real people. Your job is too easy. Okay, thank you very much. How tall is the flag? Close to 100ft. You have a meeting today with the. With the. With the peg. Pakistani Army Chief of Staff. What are you look. What are you looking forward to achieving diplomatically? Well, I stopped a war between Pakistan. I love Pakistan. I think Modi is a fantastic man. I spoke to him last night. We're going to make a trade deal with. With Modi of India. But I stopped the war between Pakistan and India. This man was extremely influential in stopping it from the Pakistan side, Modi from the India side and others. And they were going at it. And they're both nuclear countries. I got it stopped. I don't think I had one story. Did I have one story written about I stopped a war between two major nations, major nuclear nations? I don't think I had a story written about it. But that's okay. You know why? The people know. The people know. Did anybody write that story about the war? Did you write it? Oh, did you write. You wrote it.
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Doug
Adjustments that need to be made for.
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Marlon Stutzman
Marine One departures and arrival.
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Donald Trump
No, no. We put it so that Marine One is very far away. We did it in conjunction with the Air Force, with everybody, and everybody signed off on it. We now we have to have it far away. It's very far from Marine One's out there. It's out in the field. So you have to have a certain distance. We're about three times that distance. Okay, thank you very much, everybody, about getting involved.
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Brian
Nothing would be more welcome in these countries, let alone in Israel, than to see the end of Iranian imperialism. This is a bad regime and it's been bad for Arabs every bit as much as Jews.
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Donald Trump
So, Tom, let's get your take on a topic of conversation we had a short time ago.
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Doug
Let's say the US does go through this. President Trump gives the go ahead and these bunker buster bombs are used. And, you know, this devastation that follows.
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Joe Scarborough
For Iran, what comes the day after?
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Doug
What comes the day after in Iran.
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Donald Trump
Particularly for the United States, you know, and the. The Colin Powell maxim of if you break it, you buy it.
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Doug
What does it look like next?
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Brian
Just for the record, I wrote a column February 12, 2001, 2003, excuse me, called you break it, you own it. The pottery store rule. That started with me before the Iraq.
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Donald Trump
You get credit then.
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Brian
Okay, look, I think we can't predict, but I do believe that first of all, what worries me is that the Iranian leader is completely disconnected. How much information can he be getting? He's sitting in a bunker somewhere hiding. His entire top military and military intelligence leadership has been wiped out. And so who knows how much he even understands about what's going on. But that said, somebody there does And I do believe that it. If we made one last attempt at coercive diplomacy, and again, I would be demanding the end of their nuclear program. Who knows what they. What they would answer. Now, I think on one hand, you have to say Karim Sadhgur, the Iran expert at Carnegie, likes to say the Iranians are homicidal but not suicidal. And so I think if we did go to war with them or take out this nuclear facility, they'd have a big decision whether they attack our forces, because that would truly mean the end of their regime. But that's on day one or that's the morning after. What I'm always looking at in the Middle East, Jonathan, is the morning after. The morning after. That's when things get really interesting and interesting, not always in a pleasant way. Does Iran begin, the regime begin to crumble? We're talking about a country of 95 million people. What kind of disorder flows from there? Do you get a crazy general there who decides to sink some tankers in the Straits of Hormuz? It's just totally unpredictable. And I wouldn't even attempt to try to say what could happen. Right now, I'm focused on this idea of we've developed the coercion very effectively. Let's give one more shot at diplomacy.
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Donald Trump
Here's what we're learning.
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Brian
It happened just moments ago. Iran's supreme leader addressed his nation saying.
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Donald Trump
Iran will not surrender. He also directly responded to President Trump. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei made this threat.
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Brian
Let the Americans know that the Iranian.
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Donald Trump
Nation is not one to surrender and.
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Brian
End any military invention on their part will undoubtedly result in irreparable damage. His remarks, coming just day after President Trump called on Tehran to surrender unconditionally.
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Donald Trump
We are totally ready to give appropriate response to any development. We will follow the developments. We will follow the actions of the United States. And at any time, at any point, if we come to the conclusion that United States is directly involved in attacks against Iran, we will start responding to United States. How many people live in Iran, by the way?
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Joe Scarborough
I don't know the population at all?
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Stephen K. Bannon
No, I don't know the population.
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Donald Trump
You don't know the population of the.
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Joe Scarborough
Country you see to topple how many.
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Donald Trump
People living around 92 million. Okay. Yeah. How could you not know that? I don't sit around memorizing population tables. Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the overthrow of the government.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Why is it relevant whether it's 90 million or 80 million or 100 million?
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Donald Trump
Why is it because if you don't know anything about the country.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I didn't say I don't know anything about.
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Donald Trump
Okay, what's the ethnic mix of Iran?
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Stephen K. Bannon
They are Persians and predominantly Shia.
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Donald Trump
Okay, you don't know anything about Iran, so.
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Joe Scarborough
Okay.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on a ranch.
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Donald Trump
You're a senator who's calling.
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Joe Scarborough
About the country.
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Stephen K. Bannon
No, you don't know anything about the country.
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Donald Trump
You're the one who claims they're not.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Trying to murder Donald Trump.
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Donald Trump
You're the one who can't figure out.
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Joe Scarborough
If it's a good idea to kill.
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Stephen K. Bannon
General Soleimani, and you just said it was bad.
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Donald Trump
I don't believe they're trying to murder Trump.
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Joe Scarborough
Yes, I do. Because you're not calling for military strikes.
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Donald Trump
Against them in retaliation. If they really believe that they're carrying.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Out military strikes today.
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Donald Trump
You said Israel was right with our help.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Help?
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Donald Trump
I said we. Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them. Well, this. You're breaking news here because the US Government last night denied. The National Security Council spokesman, Alex Pfeiffer denied on behalf of Trump that we.
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Joe Scarborough
Were acting on Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity.
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Donald Trump
We're not bombing them. Israel's bombing them. You just said we were.
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Stephen K. Bannon
We are supporting Israel.
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Joe Scarborough
You're a senator if you're saying the.
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Donald Trump
United States government is Iran right now. People are listening.
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Joe Scarborough
Opportunity to change out this regime that has been the epicenter of global terrorism since 1978. 79. Again, it just seems this is an existential bet. Either way, the president goes with it. Talk about what the world looks like, though, with the threat of a nuclear Iran removed.
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Brian
Yeah, I think, Joe, I'm among that group that believes that, you know, this is a. It's not an exact analogy, but it's a Berlin Wall kind of moment in that this is because this Iranian regime is a really bad actor, not just regionally. Most of all, of course, for its own people. We're talking about a country that is an incredible civilization going back thousands of years. The potential of the Persian nation to contribute to the region and to the world is enormous. And that has been completely stifled by this regime. I mean, and it's a tragedy for these people, but this regime has also stifled the opportunities of Lebanon, of Syria, of Iraq. You know, it is no accident, Joe, that people have pointed out the president of Syria today. Syria is like one country that hasn't even given the titular, oh, you shouldn't do this, America. Like, there are just a lot of Arabs really rooting for this bad regime. To leave. That's on the upside. On the downside is a vast country country. And instability from there can really spill all over. And the transition will not be overnight. We're not going to go from this regime to a wonderful leader. And therefore I say what I say in Iraq and today. If you're going to do this, this is a long road. You want maximum legitimacy to do this. And the maximum legitimacy is produced by going about this in a very systematic way. Israel has generated enormous coercive power on the Iranians. Whatever they're saying, they are really hurting. And the Israelis aren't done. Okay, let's leverage that so the whole world sees for one last time. We're going to go to this regime and say, you need to end this program in a verifiable way right now. Okay. And if you don't, all right. That coercion is going to go to its final conclusion. Let the whole world see that we are avoiding war every way we possibly can. But we're not. The world will not be a stable place if this regime is allowed to pursue this nuclear program, which is clearly not about generating electricity.
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Donald Trump
Yeah. So where are they? They're nowhere. How about China? Nowhere. How about Russia? Nowhere. What happened to World War 3? There is no World War III. They all sound like a bunch of Marxist Islamists. They don't sound like patriotic Americans. Let me be clear. This is good versus evil. You're either a patriotic American who's going to get behind the President of the United States, the Commander in Chief. Are you not?
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Doug
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. There's no got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
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Joe Scarborough
I know you try to do everything.
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Doug
In the world to stop that. But you're not going to stop it.
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Donald Trump
It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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Joe Scarborough
MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Doug
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Donald Trump
War Room.
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Joe Scarborough
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Foreign.
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Joe Scarborough
Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the War room. Dave Bratt sitting in for the great Stephen K. Band. And today he's out doing work for our great country as only he can do. I'm going to try to do my best to cover what Steve's been setting up. But first off, I just usually give a reaction when I see Joe Scarborough, right? He Baptist Joe Scarborough. And believe me, religion ties into what we're going through these days. When he's going hardcore pro war now, he's always talking about, well, the virtues of Jesus in my Sunday school class was turning the other cheek. So we're in a very new world. And the day when I kind of agree with some of what Tom Friedman from the New York Times says is equally shocking, we got very strange bedfellows going on right now. Now, I just want to make a few points I have not heard out there. I, I, of course, am at Liberty University. But all the, the points I make are my own on this show. When it comes to the Christian religion in our relationship with Israel, of course we love Israel. I, I do. But the question is, how do you bless Israel, Right. As the book of Genesis says, bless Israel. And when you see your friend going off course, I think we're going off course. Right. This war, it's changed fundamentally in the last two weeks. That right there is not good. It's changed fundamentally in a week. I think President Trump a week ago on Monday made some comments and the fundamental change in trajectory went from Israel taking out nuclear weapons to regime change. And so now you have Russia weighing in last night. Pakistan weighed in a couple days ago. Everybody's got their eyes on the aircraft carriers coming from Taiwan. What's China going to do? This is no little simple operation where we're taking out, you know, nuclear weapons. And you know, one of our friends on the war room, Harzoni, the other day said Israel can do that. They, they can do the bunker buster piece. Right. The US can make it easier. But he said we can do that. And fundamentally, the religious piece here needs some consideration. Now, in the Hebrew scripture is very clear. Always, every time when the prophets speak for God and say, go to war, you go to war in the conditions that he laid down. And when you don't listen to that, when you don't listen to God's word, things go bad for Israel. Similarly, if there is no word from God, which I have not heard yet, I have not heard anyone invoke the word of God here. And so I'm waiting to hear that from our leaders, from Bibi Netanyahu, from the religious leaders in the United States of America. These are life and death consequences. Last night, Iran threatened to take out our soldiers, right. Our bases. So the America first thing is America first. I think we're going to pivot to President Trump for a minute here and see what he's announcing on the flagpole issue he set up earlier before the show.
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Donald Trump
She's doing great. He's really enjoying it. Barron's enjoying it. All my kids are enjoying it. Actually. Pretty hot out here. Is this What's Muggier? The D.C. or West Palm beach in the summer? I think this is Muggier. This is a muggy president. Could I ask you about the Paramount deal and the merger with Skydance and the other teams?
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Brian
Like, what's holding that up?
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Donald Trump
And, like, do you see that being resolved? I hope so. Ellison's great. They'll do a great job with it. But. So what they did is they interviewed 60 Minutes, they interviewed Kamala. Her answer was horrendous. I would say election threatening. This is the day before the election. Her answer was election threatening or so incompetent. So they took the entire answer out and they took another answer to another question and put it in. And they did that, I understand, a number of times, but you don't have to do it a number of times. The main question they asked, and we caught them, and they were embarrassed by it. And they're working on a settlement now. But think of it. Did you ever hear that one before? They took the entire. Every word, threw it out, put another answer. You think they do that? For me, I think it happens daily. Well, I've never seen it. I thought I seen everything that I've never seen. And it's very embarrassing. The head of 60 Minutes got fired. The head of CBS got fired. They're all getting fired. Do you think the deal. See what they're doing here? What are they doing? This is only if you're in construction. This is exciting. See, they have to get it perfectly straight. And once it's perfect, then they pour in the sand and it's there for 100 years.
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Doug
Mr. President, as the Senate works on.
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Joe Scarborough
The big, beautiful bill, it seems like.
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Doug
Salt is going to be a really.
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Joe Scarborough
Big issue between Senate Republicans and House Republicans.
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Donald Trump
So what are you telling Senators? Because the New York Republicans on the House side are making clear that that's a red line for them. If it were a red line, then get ready for a 68% tax increase in 1929, because we're taking care of that issue, too. You know what that is? That's debt ceiling. The debt ceiling. We have to move the debt. And if we don't move the debt, it's. You violate covenants. It's a terrible thing. Actually, Pocahontas Even agreed with me on that. She's been wanting to get rid of the debt ceiling because she said it's. It's too violent. It is violent. So, I mean, anybody that votes against it, they voted to give a 59. A 68% tax increase and many other bad. There would be no money for the border. You know, we have billions of dollars allocated to immigration, the border, keeping criminals out. Getting criminals out, too. If that doesn't pass, you'll get a 68% tax increase. And I would say this. Any senator that votes against it, and that includes Democrats, I think they'll be finished in politics on salt. Specifically, do you think Senate Republicans or House Republicans will have to bend more in order to get the bill at large? I don't know. We're going to see how it works out. It's a very difficult issue, to be honest with you. It's very difficult and I understand both sides, but we'll just have to see, hopefully a compromise or something's going to be made. But it's a very difficult issue. But remember that, you know, people say, what do you think? 68% tax. All those numbers. I told you how well the economy is doing. It all gets wiped out. You'd have the largest tax increase in history by far, by three times. If they don't get the big beautiful deal. I always say the great big beautiful deal. I put the word great in there. They took that. It's going to be great, great big. If we get that pass, it'll be the best, one of the greatest pieces. And that's just the beginning of a lot of things that are going to happen because we're going to get numbers down. We're going to get them way down. But that's the beginning. That's our big first step. But that's a big. It's the most important piece of legislation in terms of dollar value. And everything else is nothing as big as that. Speaking of, you know, they thought that might be seven or eight bills. It's all in one. Speaking of taxes, starting in July 1, California's upping their tax on gasoline again per gallon. I mean, that's. Well, you know, I beat the California mandate. Congress just passed a bill ending it that was terrible. So what they were saying, everybody by 2030 has to have an electric car. People don't want it. I'm all for electric cars, but you have to want one. And right now it's about 7%. But they were forcing everybody to have it. I ended, you know, I ended that. And now they're coming out with one. No, in California, you know, I've got, we've got some gas stations where just two weeks ago it was $1.98, $1.99. We've got the gas down below. Then we have this little situation which will drive it up a little bit, but very little. And it's going to come down again, going to give people a lot of extra money. Groceries are down, eggs are down. You know, the eggs. They hit me the first week about eggs. But no, I think that look, you know what I do whenever they talk about, about Gavin Newscom, I say look at the railroad. Look at the railroad. It's not even possible. Do you think he comes out and sees the construction workers? I don't think. I don't think he put an American flag in front of the Capitol. Sacramento either. Supporters are split on the US Response to who you with cnn fake news. Fortunately nobody watches if anybody watches watching CNN nowadays. I haven't seen it in a long time. Some of your supporters are wary of the US getting involved in another foreign wall and some believe that we should support. Do you ever ask a positive question at cnn? My supporters are more in love with me today and I'm in love with them more than they were even at election time where we had a total landslide. We had, you know, we won all seven swing states. Did CNN report that? We won all seven out of seven which everyone said would be almost impossible. We won by millions of votes. We won 2750 districts versus 505 districts. Think of that. 2,750 versus 505 and CNN. I think what she might be alluding to is the base is going to stay with you regardless and you've gone through different regardless.
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Brian
But some of the people in the.
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Donald Trump
Base don't want a long term war. They're afraid that we're going to get.
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Joe Scarborough
Into a long term war.
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Donald Trump
What you looking for a long time? Yeah, we're looking. It's only, I only want one thing. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. That's it. I'm not looking long term, short term. And I've been saying that for 20 years. I've been saying it as a civilian who got a lot of publicity. People would cover it very simply. Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. That's it. It's not a question of anything else. And if you did, you wouldn't have much of a country because they would use it on us and they'd use it on other people and they'd be a Terror all over the world. So I may have some people that are a little bit unhappy now, but I have some people that are very happy. And I have people outside of the base that can't believe that this is happening. They're so happy. And there was a poll that just came out today that my approval rating is the highest it's ever been. All I'm doing is saying you can't have a nuclear weapon. And I tried to do it nicely. And then on day 61, I said, let's go because we can't let that happen. And I've been saying it for 20 years. Okay, I'm going to leave. Thank you very much. Thank you so much, sir.
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Joe Scarborough
All right, great. President Trump adding some clarification there much needed clarification. I think that is a very promising sign. The only thing is Iran and the Ayatollahs cannot have a nuclear weapon. We're going to go from the realm of religion, right? No one has invoked the name of God yet that pay attention to that. That matters on the theological level. Now we go down to the strategic level. No one better than our great friend Sam Faddis. He has been breaking news over the last week. I've been following him on our intelligence. I won't say failures, but I'll just tee up. Sam. Sam, bring us up to speed. What do we know? Because major decisions concerning American lives. Lives depend on the information you're about ready to share.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, great to be on with you. Thank you very much. Look, end of March, Tulsi Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence, delivered an assessment to Congress. And the short version of that assessment was Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program. And in effect, Iran hasn't had a nuclear weapons program for close to 25 years. Okay. Now again, as I said to Steve the other day, I'm not knocking Tulsi Gabbard. That assessment is a required written product prepared by all the intelligence agencies. It's her job as DCI to read the thing to Congress. She's not the one out collecting that intelligence on the ground. But the point is, CIA, dia, nsa, everybody else in the entire intelligence community, their joint product, their, their formal written assessment 10 weeks ago was there is not an Iranian nuclear weapons program. Not it's, there is one, but it's further away. Or anything else nuanced, there is none. And there hasn't been since at least 2003. Okay, so now we all of a sudden have the Israelis telling us that not only is there a nuclear weapons program, but The Iranians are on the precipice. Potentially, it depends on which time the Israelis spoke. But potentially, the Israelis are saying, look, within days, these guys can actually have more than one functioning nuclear weapon. So that's about as far apart as you can get in terms of assessment that you could possibly imagine. The Israelis are telling us they have a program, they've had a program for decades, and they're just about to out to the point where they actually have the weapons. And we're saying there is no program at all. Now, somebody's wrong, obviously. And given the actions of the United States supporting Israel, I think it's pretty clear that we have decided that we agree with the Israelis. In other words, we didn't respond by saying, I don't know what you guys are thinking, but you're 100% wrong. There is no program. Knock it off. We are in their corner. We are supporting that. Now there's a whole issue of what exactly that means and how far we're going to get dragged down that rabbit hole. But clearly we have the Israelis back on this and I'm sure are providing support of various kinds to them. So that's a pretty big issue. If our entire, given the priority of the Iranian nuclear weapons program, the fact that it's been our policy for a really long time that they can't have nuclear weapons, the idea that our entire intelligence community has missed that program for decades is kind of catastrophic, right? I mean, you need to focus on that. And somebody needs to answer some questions and then not just answer some questions, but we need in a big hurry to make whatever changes we need to make. Because what it means is we're blind. And one of the many implications of that, obviously, if we're blind on this, God knows what else we're blind on. But one of the big implications of that is if we're totally blind and the Israelis are providing this information, and I say this is a friend of Israel, then it effectively means that the Israelis are leading us around. If we're 100% dependent on their intelligence, right, then they're driving the train. And I'm a friend of Israel, but I'm more of a friend of the United States of America. And we can't be in the position of having a foreign country tell us what has to be done.
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Joe Scarborough
Yeah, thanks for your work on this. I intuitively share your, your logic right there. And then, you know, everything hangs on the rabbit hole we're going down. You know, in our CIA, this is nothing novel, right? This started back way back, I mean, at World War I, but CIA in 53, we knock out Mosaddegh. He's a secular, constitutional kind of guy who had it wrong on oil prices or something, as far as the US is concerned. So we knock him out, and 30 years later, we got a Islamic revolution on our hands. And then Netanyahu's on the record saying, before the Iraq war, I guarantee you, if you knock out Iraq, it's going to go just great for the usa. And it did not go great for the usa. Right. And so the major issue is, and you know, everybody's waiting to hear, we all want to support Israel, we don't want Iran to have nukes. That's all widely agreed upon. President Trump shares that logic. Yoram came on the other day and said they can assure that happens, but now the whole world looks like, and we're sending aircraft carriers. It looks like the, like the causes belly, right? The cause of war is just like it was before Iraq. Brand new intelligence out of, out of thin air. They got weapons of mass destruction. The mainstream media and all the CIA cutouts move into position. There's a whole new narrative. The war room posse knows more than it's ever known, thanks to people like you and Bannon. And we're all just going, not so fast. We're just not buying this. And so surely, if you're right, our intelligence agencies, there must be something they can share with us, a picture, some form of tangible receipts, like we want on the war room for this newly found nuclear capacity, which I intuitively, I kind of buy that. But then Israel can take it out on its own. And so why we're shifting into language of taking out their political leaders in addition to decapitating the military leaders, and so guide us forward.
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Stephen K. Bannon
SAM well, I think you have brought us to the critical question, right? All of a sudden, and unfortunately, we have seen this before in Washington. All of a sudden, we've gone from talking about taking out the nuclear program, which in and of itself, taking it out and preventing them from reconstituting it. In other words, taking it out and really ending the issue. Issue is a lot more complicated than most people want to understand. But now, all of a sudden, we hear this verbiage, finish the job. Finish the job, which apparently is code for topple the ayatollahs. And the way I feel about this is the way I feel about people talking about going to war in general. It's like, okay, this is not a playground fight, man, and hope is not a plan. So why? How. How do you. How will it be better? I mean, do I hate the Ayatollah?
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Donald Trump
Sure.
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Stephen K. Bannon
I worked against him for decades. I worked with a lot of very good men who were no longer with us, who died horribly trying to get rid of this regime. It's an abomination. Wishing they were gone doesn't constitute a plan. How exactly do you intend to get rid of them? How? And how do you know that what you're going to replace it with will be better and won't just be thugs of a different kind or different faces, but the same. The same madness? And we're already seeing so many things, not just that we saw in Iraq, but we've seen many other places. We get all these guys that pop up on the news in the United States who've been living here for 25 years in exile, who assure us that they're going to return to Iran and it'll be kinder and gentler and a liberal democratic government. Okay, and that's great. I. That's a wonderful fantasy. Do these guys actually have any following in Iran? I mean, they're living here in comfort and they haven't been home for decades. Does anybody in Iran actually follow them? The other day I was reading an article about somebody explaining to me, explaining to us that we were going to lash up with the Kurdish groups inside Iran and they were going to topple the government. Okay, well, I've spent a lot of time with the Kurds fighting alongside them, but, you know, 90 plus million Iranians, maybe 10% of that population is the Kurds. So 10% of the population that lives in one, really in one region, will topple the entire government. By the way, some of those groups are communist organizations. Is that the plan now? I mean, in general, what. What's missing here is any sober calculus and assessment. You're getting ready to. To take on a task that potentially leads to massive bloodshed and war, and all we're getting is a bunch of catchphrases and slogans.
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Joe Scarborough
Yes. Yeah. On.
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Stephen K. Bannon
That's not how this works.
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Joe Scarborough
On that one. On that one, Sam, I think you just put your finger on it, and I think we do have. Have massive intelligence on what the logic of this looks like worked out by RAND Corporation and other theorists. And no one's mentioning Pakistan, Russia, Turkey, China, Taiwan. There's a natural sequence of events. And when we say we love Israel, I do love Israel, and I do not want them to bear the brunt of the world coming up after this, whatever we do. Right. So we take out one bad guy, another bad guy could come in. We have 20 million illegal aliens in this country. Surely some of them are not friendly to President Trump. If we go after their political leader, I do not want to think about what could happen to our president, much less his agenda. All the secretaries under him will shift their duties immediately if we get into a full spread war. Every secretary will shift all resources immediately at this war. And so can you speak a little bit about the world of Rand? And there are many analyses out there that do not end up good. And I think that's the dominant theory. That's why I'm bringing this up. I think we do have analysis and it's not pretty. And just so folks know, like when I went out to analyze the cost of war, right. The post 911 war scenario has cost us over $8 trillion according to Brown University. They don't have any analysis of the Ukraine war. This is all political. And then when you go to look up at the deaths in Ukraine, the Russian deaths are 1.2 million, et cetera, and the deaths in Ukraine are like in the tens of thousands. That's by the Economist magazine. So you're seeing propaganda warfare. The only thing you're seeing is a very biased view of what war looks like on behalf of the interests of the Swamp up in D.C. congress is way too favorable here when, when 70, 80% of the American people want no part of this. And so can you kind of give us a little shock and awe with what these Rand type analyses predict if the genie gets out of the bottle big time and the US Ends up with troops on the ground because Israel does not have enough troops to go and fight in Iran.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah, well, look, in my estimation, the idea that the United States is going to end up with ground troops, troops on the troops on the ground inside Iran fighting to liberate that country. That's insanity. That's madness. People that posit that kind of thing have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. You're talking about casualty rates that the average American can't even fathom. We're not talking about a news report. A couple of guys got blown up yesterday, which is horrifying enough. You're talking about hundreds, thousands of people potentially dying every day and wounded. You're talking about casualty rates that make anything we saw in Iraq, in Afghanistan look like absolutely nothing. But you know, I keep coming back to this is when you're talking about war, what you know, it needs to be a really sober calculus. It's not an emotion thing. You don't throw a couple of punches, get a fat lip and then it's all over. You don't go down that road without being calm and cold and calculating.
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Donald Trump
Yep.
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Joe Scarborough
Sam Fadis, thank you very much for joining us on the War Room. These are the most serious of days, folks. We need to all study. Share the War Room platform with all your friends of all stripes so they understand what's going on in this world. Stunningly, most Americans do not know that we are at war currently. Stay with the War Room. Right back with Congressman Marlon Stutzman.
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Doug
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Donald Trump
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Joe Scarborough
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Marlon Stutzman
Yeah. Hey, great to be with you, Dave. Great to see you. I was excited to be on the show with Steve Bannon. And then they said, Dave Bratz hosting. I'm like, that's the second best. I mean, so it's a good day to see you.
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Joe Scarborough
That's generous.
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Marlon Stutzman
You, too, man.
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Joe Scarborough
Good.
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Marlon Stutzman
Yeah. But no, great to be with you. And you're exactly right. I was just actually with a group, group of folks here in Northeast Indiana, Fort Wayne area, where, you know, manufacturing, heart of the heartland and agriculture are strong areas of industry for US Transportation. So coming from the heartland this morning and hearing from constituents what they're concerned about. And obviously, a lot of the, you know, we talked a lot of economics, but also talked a lot about the unrest in the Middle East. And there's a lot of concern. But I tell you what, I am so grateful that President Trump is the president. He's the strongest negotiator, he's the strongest diplomat that America has had since President Ronald Reagan. And I'm thankful that he's at the wheel here dealing with the circumstances that we're facing right now. And I trust that he's going to make the right decisions. He's been in the business world his whole life. He's a strong negotiator. And I agree with the fact that we don't want to see Iran with any sort of nuclear program. I mean, not for utilities, because we know they would use it for a bomb. And I also support Israel doing what they believe they need to do to defend themselves. I was in Israel a couple weeks ago and saw the concern regarding a nuclear Iran, but also saw where Hamas attacked them on the southern border while we were there. Houthis were sending rockets in from Yemen. And so it's a very dangerous part of the world. And what I really believe, Dave, as we were talking about just briefly, is that it shouldn't be just Israel and the United States dealing with Iran. We need the Saudis, we need the Turks, we need other countries in that region. Because if Iran had a nuclear weapon, it would be like them having a gun and they could just point it at anybody they wanted and leveraging them. And so it shouldn't be just Israel and the United States that deal with this problem. It should also be other countries in the region and greater parts of the civilized world.
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Joe Scarborough
Yeah, well, I'm happy, too. President Trump is the master negotiator, unfortunately, in the west, we all, and I think probably Trump does, even on business deals, assumes rationality. And we'll see whether the religious leaders over in Iran respond. But your point is, right, you know, we want this, this whole community, Trump's got pressure to bear on tariffs and whatever, but, boy, right now it's going to be a hard sell because we're going in hardcore right now on Iran. And you just heard Sam Faddis with all the, all the cautionary notes he provided. What are you hearing on the economy? You know, it's kind of mixed. President Trump's putting in all the supply side pieces that, you know, there's a lag on that to take effect. We're still living kind of under the Biden economy. Fiscal policies got about a year lag on it, and we're still 2 trillion deficit spending a year. The Federal Reserve is still out of control. They haven't pulled back their trillions on the balance sheet. What are you hearing on the economy? Are your folks starting to see a turn or is it still pretty flat?
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Marlon Stutzman
It's, there's nervousness, there's optimism because they believe that Trump's doing the right thing by resetting the economic stage. You know, and of course, with us in the Midwest, we have seen a decline over the past several decades with manufacturing leaving the Midwest and going to other parts of the world, whether it's Mexico or whether it's China. And just for a quick example, you know, agriculture, of course, is the largest industry in Indiana, China, but manufacturing is a close second. I mean, we've got steel companies, automobile companies, orthopedic companies. I mean, we can build and manufacture just about anything here. And. But, you know, over time, over the last several decades, we've seen a slow decline in population because of our trade policy. So there is an understanding and a support for President Trump because there's not a good time to do this, especially coming off the heels of a Biden administration. And it was a horrible time to do it. But when else do you do it? And Trump's doing it, and so you throw on top of this war and. Well, I guess what bothers me is that, you know, we have some people in Washington that say, you know, when this whole thing started with Israel and Iran, like, hey, game on. Well, this is not a game. This is something that has to be handled very delicately. We want to make sure Israel's secure. We want to make sure America's secure. So Trump's got a big, big task in front of him, but I trust that he's the guy to do it.
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Joe Scarborough
Yeah. Well, Marlon, you put your finger on the most important thing in the Trump agenda is bringing jobs back for Americans. America First, Indiana. I grew up in Michigan and Minnesota. A little bit up there in your country. I love the people of your great state. You're a great leader. How do people get to you, Marlon, if they want to follow you and your agenda?
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Marlon Stutzman
Check us at repstutsman on all social platforms, and we'd love to have them check us out, communicate with us, and we're always going to be posting our thoughts and comments as well there.
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Joe Scarborough
All right, God bless you, Marlon. Thanks for being with us on the War Room. All right, folks, please share the war Room. Whatever vehicle, you watch it on, whatever platform you're using, find your favorite link, send it out to your entire list. We need to inform the country what's going on. Stay tuned after the break. We got the great Jack.
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Doug
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