
Episode 4578: Trump Returns To DC Today; Israel Stands To Have No Air Capability In The War cont....
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but.
Taj Gill
You'Re not going to stop it.
Steve Bannon
It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Taj Gill
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Stephen K. Bannon
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Steve Bannon
Saturday 21 June in the year of our Lord 2025 it's been publicly put out I think last night that the president is coming back from Bedminster. He just got there late after late yesterday afternoon. Gave a interview or talked to the press. Gave a press avail as it's called on the tarmac. They're a thing in Morristown where the airport is they announced he's coming back. Some controversy had he planned on coming back. He's not coming back. But on the public schedule there is a national security briefing for the President in the Oval Office. As we develop this during the day we in and you should stay tuned to obviously Real America's Voice but also Grace and Mo's social media feed. They'll be putting the word out and I'll be up on getter. Right. So make sure you go. I put all my stuff up on Getter whether we'll be back here with an all star cast late in the afternoon if this thing develops more. One thing I can tell you is that it looks like the president and giving two weeks he kind of said that's the limit. But he's doing two weeks principally for try to get a deal and see if there's a real deal there. And regardless of whether you can even find anybody to negotiate with. I'm not sure Witkoff's even gotten his phone calls returned. Number one, as President Trump told you, the people they were negotiating with were all killed on Friday. Right. And the Israelis kind of seconded that. I find that a little odd, right that Wyckoff's got a meeting scheduled for Sunday and some of the people you're decapitating or the exact people you're negotiating with. But I just put that out there and put pin in it because we still don't have an explanation and I've been on this like a dog with a bone. I have. No one has presented me with any information. And we have a significant amount of information about all this, of why it had to be last Thursday night and Friday morning and why was the decision made to go do it if you couldn't finish it? From the Israelis. Now they are. I think the lead story in the New York Post is Bibi is now saying we can finish it and we will finish it, and that's fine. That's our. Look, we got. No, if you want to do it, go, you know, do it. We understand. We understand the geopolitical issues you have, the geostrategic issues you have. And you've been kind of on a roll. You took out Hezbollah, which was, you know, touted to be that one of the strongest light infantry in the world. You took those out. You've done a great job in Syria. And people, you know, that have just been focused on Persia, they're hammering the Hamas forces in Gaza. That continues to go on. I know President Trump wants that to finish as soon as possible, as soon as they're done. So in that regard, they're on a roll. Right. In this, it's a little more questionable. And definitely the ballistic. When they talk about the two things, the nuclear enrichment and getting to weaponize a bomb and then the missile delivery system and the ballistic missiles, that also goes back to what Mark Caputo and Jack were talking about, about the. Either David Sling or the, or the, or the Golden Dome or the, the Iron Dome. I guess it is some people saying that made it look like it was by paper because you certainly have had to have American, both air defense and support by naval forces for air defense in the eastern Mediterranean. All this to say, and the assets are all in place if you want to. If you want to strike everything. I've seen that given the unpredictability and that this has never been done before. And you got the bomb damage assessment of dtr. This was the. Lowell, Hugo Lowell. The reason we had Hugo in studio is that that story was amazing and wasn't getting the coverage I thought it deserved because it talks to you about the tactical implications. And as I say, you know, I was a young naval officer over there. We were some of the first on the scene as the Navy had no assets. I think we had one or two ships in Bahrain, but they were kind of old destroyers. They never really. We never really had any serious assets, naval assets, because the North Arabian Sea, the Persian Gulf, the Indian Ocean, just weren't, you know, we were the Western Pacific and the seventh Fleet. And the, the fleet out of Norfolk patrolled the Mediterranean. That was kind of, it was kind of still World War II. This changed everything. And when we got there, I will tell you, it didn't take Clausewitz to, you know, say, yo, I'm not so sure we got enough helicopters for this thing. And Tehran's a pretty far distance from the North Arabian Sea from where we're going to launch. And I haven't seen the sun since we got there. It's just slate gray. The sea is slate gray. It's filthy. It is, you know, quite hot, over 100 degrees every day. And it's not like you're sitting there. These are not shots at a Lawrence of Arabia. You're not stunned by the beauty of the desert. In fact, I'm not so sure we saw the sun the entire time. It's like a slate gray day because it's all the sand and dirt and everything that comes up from the desert and from places like Iran, it's haze gray the entire time. You see this orb that comes through every now and again. It's just an orb that would be the sun. So my point, it's a long way away. It's at a scale that's hard to imagine, and it's quite hostile to just any type of human endeavor. And now you get the forward deployment of assets. One thing has not been talked about. If we get Erik Prince up here, we're trying to get Eric his. We've been talking to Eric this morning. We're trying to get him up. I'm not so sure. I haven't heard any word. You know, this is why I've been saying, hey, one of the first phone calls I would make would be mbz. That great. The meetings you had, you know, the fantastic meetings were, remember a month ago in the Gulf Emirates, in Saudi Arabia, in United Arab Emirates and then in Qatar, President Trump got a hero's welcome. The Americans got a hero's welcome. We talked about, hey, we're not talking about fighting. We're not going to focus on terrorism anymore. Peace and prosperity, artificial intelligence, cryptocurrency. The future is now and the future is here in the Middle East. I'd like to know. Because these strike packages are just not simply B2 bombers coming in at 30,000ft and dropping at 30,000 pound weapon. You also, I think the initial strike package, you have to have basically fighter aircraft, fighter bombers go in and take care of basically interim radar, other anti aircraft, you know, assets to make sure it's swept. I believe the first part of the strike package is actually good old fashioned, you know, coming in, coming in relatively low and hot with, with, with fighter bombers. I'd like to know. I haven't heard this. And this is like the, I guess the 90, you know, the Gulf War. Have the Arabs given us air access rights? Have they given us basing rights? Do we have the ability? Because I think there's some restrictions about doing combat sorties against, you know, Muslim nations. Out of that, I don't know all the details, but I know there's just not. You just can't be flying in there and saying, hey, we're getting ready to launch. How you doing? Can you feel, can you feel it? Can you top it off for me? Can you clean the windshield? Yeah, and put it on the card. Uncle Sugar's card. Just put it on the card. I think it's a little more complicated that. I haven't heard anything about those discussions starting. Maybe they have. Hopefully they should have. But I think a lead indicator that maybe our buddies in the Gulf Emirates are not with us on this would be that. And then publicly they've all shown support, particularly I think, Mohammed bin Zayed, the first day to the, to the Shiites. Now realize people say, well, that's publicly, not privately, but I, hopefully those guys are part of this lease discussions. One of the things we can certainly refer back to is the Iraq war and particularly the cheerleading was done and it was about 18. If you go back in time, you boomers, this is what's interesting. The people under 35 are like 100 to nothing on this. They 0. Here's how much support it has for the under 35 crowd. 0. Who supports this? I'm told the boomers. Okay, boomers, that would. I'm also a boomer, you know that. But let's go back in time. And they say, boomers, boomers have no learning curve. I don't agree with that. I being one of you, I don't agree with that. But let's go back in time. Let's go back. The last time you were sucked into. I mean, excuse me, the last time we had this situation for the Iraq war. Now they had an 18 month to a year buildup and that was a propaganda campaign, has now been fully exposed. The other day was at the Christian Science Monitor breakfast and they brought up the, I don't know, the Iranian, you know, outside counsel or council for Democracy. I don't even know what this thing called. And Grizzo over at Newsmax, One of the old war horses in town, really smart guy, he says, hey, Steve, can you talk about that? And I go, man, don't. Why are we going there now? We're going to do due diligence on, you know, they got the Shah, son, and they got all, you know, the MEK guys. MEK is kind of a combination of Marxism, Maoism, some sort of. I don't even know what it is, but it's out there. And they call it a terrorist group. And I realized Bernie Kerrick, the great Bernie Kerrick and Rudy are very close to those guys and they vouch for him. But my point is, you got all these people, right, all these Persians that have not been in Persia for a while, like since 1979. And they got this council and they meet and they talk about what they're going to do and how they're going to, you know, part of it is that we're going to return the Shah, son, to the Peacock throne. Remember the Peacock throne? We're going to do that. And then you got everybody else. And I just said, hey, yo, I came in. It's so ludicrous that it doesn't even rank discussion. And I go back to the. Remember the. In the run up, you got to remember this, Boomers, you were sold the. Was it the Iraqi National Congress. Remember that?
Taj Gill
Chalabi.
Steve Bannon
Remember Chalabi? Chalabi was going to be gone. And, you know, and everybody at Fox was pushing him. The Weekly Standard was pushing him. National Review was pushing. These were freedom fighters. These were Jeffersonian Democrats, freedom fighters that were in the West. And they were telling us they're going to do this. There's going to be two houses of Parliament. We're going to have democracy and free market capitalism, everything, right? To get the donors all worked up and to get people all totally, completely excited. And then when Baghdad fell in 30 days, you know, Chalabi and some of these guys went over, never heard from in history again. I think Charlie would pop up every now and again is. And I think when he ran, I think he actually did rank, I don't know, 1% or something. But it just. These guys went into the vortex of history. You never heard about the Iraqi National Congress. And certainly when they got there, people going, who in the hell are you guys? Oh, we're the Jeffersonian Democrat freedom fighters. Free market capitalism that have been actually, you know, hanging out in the salons of New York City and D.C. and going on Fox News to tell you that you guys are going to be a democracy. Remember the Thing. Don't you have a blue? We're going to dip your finger in blue to make sure you know you voted. Why didn't they do that here in the United States? Would that have stopped the voter fraud? Had a lot more control, had a lot more concern of. It seems like in Iraq and Afghanistan in the old days than they did here in places like, I don't know, Philadelphia. Right. Chicago or Chicago, didn't count. Philadelphia, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc. But I digress. Go back to the run up to the Iraq war. That's all it is. Just think about the children. They had 18 months to do that. Now they got a much more constricted time frame, like a week. Because this has not been front of mind for people. Just hadn't you see up there. Or they killed 600 guys in Iraq or last year and they killed the Marines. Yes. These mullahs are bad people. They're bad guys. They should be removed. They got to be removed though by the Iraqi people if you don't. Or the Iranian people if you don't. If the Persians don't overthrow them, you're going to have an exact situation you had in Iraq, right, Where it's you decapitated from the top and then, you know, you throw it out there and year decades later, it's better today. One of the reasons it's better today and common today is the Persians. I don't know, they control 2/3 of Iraq. Our mortal enemies. For being such mortar enemies, we sure gave a lot of real estate, didn't we? We gave him a lot of power. We gave him access to a lot more oil. Right. I don't know who totally controls it. What down in Bond. Abbas. Right. We're gonna get Tage Gill on here. Taj Gill, I don't know, did 14, 15 tours in the Middle East. Like I keep saying, the three most powerful institutions in the imperial capital, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Reserve bank and centcom. You got the. The brains of the operation, you got the financing of the operation and you got the muscle of the operation, the big three. You notice I didn't say, you know, treasury or doj. They're important too. Don't get me wrong. They're powerful. But those three right there, because the CIA kind of controls the Justice Department, DOJ and the FBI. Oh, my God. Bannon. Full conspiracy theory. No, folks, just unfortunately a fact. Short break. Back in a moment.
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Unknown
Iran has had five decades, five decades, almost half a century to talk. And what they've done instead, kill 609American troops in Iraq. What they've done is put an assassination plot on President Trump's head. What they've done is take American hostages and wreak havoc on the world. America first is not sitting in a beach chair and using words. It's taking decisive action. Action when we can take out four, do the one swoop of an airplane.
Steve Bannon
You saw the movie, the latest Top Gun movie. Eerily enough, this is that plot kind of coming to fruition in real life. It's not just one bomb. It'll be a bomb after a bomb to get through that penetration. Top Gun movie one swoop, you see with the cheerleading, the pom poms over at Fox, pretty even handed over there. We try to give you both sides of the story here and you know, we fully support they can't have a nuclear weapon. We fully supported President Trump's diplomatic. We didn't even like what we heard on just a verification program because we're not so sure it can be verified by these mullahs. They're not the most rational people on earth. And we fully support the Israelis military campaign. And we keep saying our mantra here is quite simple, finish what you started. This was something you thought through for years, had to do. Turns out, and we should be blunt, the Mossad intelligence is I'm not so sure how you divide the CIA's from the Mossad. I would love to be able to ascertain that and have somebody come forward and say that. And I think President Trump, one of the things that would be helpful to him is what President Reagan did is Team B. Now what I mean by that, having been a young naval officer and seen the fiasco in the making of the hostage rescue, you could tell this is about aircraft, this about helicopter lift capacity in the forbidding area that we were in. My kid brother was a Navy Lamps helicopter pilot. He was actually later assigned to the exact same destroyer squadron I was in on the USS Reasoner, Destroyer Squadron 23, the Little Beavers, the famous Arleigh Burke destroyer squadron from World War II. I can tell you, Lamps, you know, on frigates and on destroyers I happen to think is the most dangerous flying in the Navy. Right. Particularly when you come in these night landings with no horizon, pitch black. It's just incredible. These guys, I'm so proud of my kid brother for doing that. And the other people that, that the other Navy pilots that did it, flying anti submarine warfare helicopters off the back of these little frigates and destroyers pitching like they do because we're not large platforms is incredible. But we didn't take, it didn't take Clausewitz or von Molke to understand. We looked there and every day you're doing exercises and it's just not that much lift capacity in these helicopters. There's just not that many of them. And the reason the gray sky, it's called foreign object debris fodder. It's what gets into the rotors, it gets into the engines of the helicopters. You know, it can be a cigarette buck, can be everything. That's what you have to do. Sweep down these decks, make sure it's thing. But the fine sand and the dirt that gets in there. This is what happened when they went to the rendezvous spot where they had the collision with the tanker and killed so many people and then called off the raid. Right. But my understanding, I think they didn't even have the lift capacity they needed to get all the hostages out, which was critical. It was a mission critical situation. When they got to the, to the rendezvous spot. My point is that these are amazingly complicated, right. And you just can't see them like the first thing. Remember last Thursday night, Friday, their chest beating, everybody's chest beating. It's so great. It's like shock and awe. That's why we played shock and awe that morning at the end, just to keep it in perspective. Because remember the first night of the Iraq war, the 19th of March of 2003, everybody's high fiving and Rumsfeld's high fiving and all those guys at the White House told all those lies about how they got there on weapons of mass drone. They're chest pounding, they're broing out. And then the march up country, Baghdad fell, what, in three weeks because the Iraqi army turned out to be, you know, not that great. They kind of faded away. But hey, they were just lying in wait for the American. Look at the hell and it was hell of the occupation that the American troops went through. It wasn't until the great Derek Harvey and others later said, hey, you're going to need a surge to take this thing back because the Iraqi National Congress, all that turned out to be a joke. And what happened to happen, General Kelly, who turned out not to be the best chief of staff, but as a Marine Corps general, you read Bing West's book the Strongest Tribe. They went to the Anbar province where this revolt was coming from, and they basically, the Marine Corps brought good order and discipline. And you had the battles. I was honored to work with Michael Paak and make a battle called the Last. Make a film called the Last 600 Meters, a documentary about First Fallujah, Najaf and Second Fallujah, those three battles in a row. And I don't know if you've ever had more heroism out of the Marine Corps ever in the army of what these folks went through. But you notice not a lot of the people that were high fiving, right, Were high fiving and, you know, all, you know, so great they weren't around for those. I didn't see a lot of those people down in Fallujah. Second Fallujah is one of the nastiest battles the Marine Corps has ever had. Door to door, kicking down doors. I think of, I don't know, 200,000, you know, structures going in there door to door. And I know this because the, the Force Recon, Michael Pacteau got force recon of Peleliu and Tarawa for Marine Force Recon, which is about as hard as you can get, right? Because Peleliu and Tarawa were like Normandy. And when I say Normandy, I mean Omaha beach at its worst. And these gentlemen in their 80s at the time, or yes, 80s at their time at the end of the screening of the film said, these kids are the most unbelievable brave ever. And you know, Pack was, well, hang on for a second. Your Force Recon at Peleliu And Tarawa, how could that possibly be? Because you're the greatest of the greatest generation. You're the bravest of the greatest generation. How can you say these kids are actually braver until men? They said, well, you didn't understand. We were 17 and 18 years old. We 19. We didn't know anything. What we knew is that the Marine Corps taught us when you hit the beach, you clear cut everything in front of you and you're not going to back up one yard. You're going forward, okay? You're going forward and you're going to kill everything in front of you. He says there's no kicking down doors and having little kids run out and having all that pressure. Where do you think a lot of the PTSD comes from with the women and children? The little kids sometimes are wrapped in bombs. You know, every time you kick open a door, it's the end of your life. It's the last act you're ever going to do on earth. They said we didn't have any of that. We just went through and clear cut everything. And you know, a lot of these guys said we weren't taking a lot of prisoners either. It's just clear cut in front of you. That's your job. Very different than the newest greatest generation. That's the asses. And we threw them. We threw it away. We threw it away. You know, you talk about the Vietnam vets. What about those vets? Vietnam vets? Yes. People came back and spit on them, wouldn't look at them. You couldn't wear your uniform, all of it, with the heroism that the men showed in Vietnam. Well, was it really any better until President Trump had the parade last week? I don't remember any parades. You had the Gulf War parade back in 92. I don't remember any parades for the heroes of the and this was in global War on Terror. This was combat in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Taj Gil, you were there, you volunteered, you went. What are your thoughts on the. You're not a pacifist, you're not an anti war guy, you're not an isolationist, as we're not either. But we're non interventionists because of the fact that we've seen what intervention does. Taej Gil, your thoughts?
Stephen K. Bannon
I think the decision's been made. It looks like we're marching to the point of no return right now. On bombing Iran. I heard Nancy Mace talking yesterday saying we just want one bomb, one bomber and one pilot to go in and do this. But that's not the case. I think it's going to be multiple bombers that each B2 holds two of these GBU 57 30,000 pound bombs. And we already know that one of them cannot do the job. So I think it's going to be a sortie of multiple bombers. If they send in two, we've got four bombs. So the old saying in the military is two is one, one is none. So I think there'll be two sets of two bombers. So we have at least eight of these bunker busters just in case the first, the first pair of bombers don't do it. And then we'll see what happens after that. Hopefully, hopefully that's our job. We just bomb it and then get out and then turn everything back over to Israel and they finish it. I personally do not want to see boots on the ground in there, but they keep moving the goalposts on this. First it was denuclearization, now it's regime change and now it's US bombers involved. So let's hope that that's it. We use their Stealth bombers to get in, get out. And I heard you talking earlier saying about how the beginning of the Gulf War, you know, we have to send in fighter jets like air to ground bombers to take out their radar bases. The radar, the anti aircraft stuff. But the air defenses, I don't think, I don't think that's the case here. These, these B2s have a very, very, very small radar cross section so they can get in and get out undetected. And we don't need to cross through any airspace of that Arab neighbors. They can just fly straight up through the Indian Ocean and punch right into the Iranian airspace and do their mission and get out if it all goes well. But there's a thing called Murphy's Law. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong at the most the worst time. So hopefully Murphy's Law doesn't kick in here and we can get this job done and get out and then turn it back over to the Israelis and. But the Chinese have the electronic warfare taste.
Steve Bannon
Hang on for one second because I'm gonna. Okay, hold you through into another segment. Trying to get Eric Prince also to join us on a Saturday. We don't do it this morning, maybe we do it this afternoon. You gotta stick around with grace number I see if we come back here by 4 or 5 o' clock. Brought to you sponsored by Birch Gold End of the dollar Empire in the Rio reset. They're coming for us economically. The Chinese Communist Party who are partners of the Mulas. That's what we keep saying. Cut the oil off. Birchcold.com promo code Bannon. End of the dollar empire. All free. Make it your weekend study guide. This weekend, take it out by the pool or out in the backyard on the porch. Get a big iced tea. Or better yet, get a nice. Get a nice Win. Warpath Coffee. How about that? Short break.
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Steve Bannon
If you like the geopolitics, national security, everything, capital markets, go to our great contributor, Jim rickards. Rickards war room.com that's the landing page. You get to sign up for Strategic Intelligence. It's a C suite. Read Chairman of the board, CEOs all over the world. Read this. You get up, get in the loop, just like they are. Go torickards war room dot com. That's the landing page. You can sign up. Also, he throws in a free book, MoneyGPT, which is artificial intelligence and currency which will set your hair on fire. Go do it today, Rickards is the best. Erik Prince. So Erik Prince joins us by phone. Eric, I want to thank you taking time away today to do this. In the great movie Bridge Too Far. As you remember, Dirk Bogart plays the senior intelligence officer in the British Army. He's brought intelligence right before the raid at Market Garden where they got to take I think five or six bridges, right, leading all the way to Arnhem to cross the Rhine and to shorten the war by a year. The intelligence officer brings it and it shows that a German panzer division has been brought back for R and R right in the middle of where they're going to land. And Dirk Bogart looks at it and says, no, this is not conclusive. And the guy makes a point and presses him. He says, you could lose everybody. This whole thing could fail. We could lose tens of thousands of people. And he says, the party is on and we're holding the party. That's a British term for hey, this thing's going, sir, as we sit here on a Saturday, the President coming Back to Washington D.C. number one, is the party on in Europe opinion And is it a party that the United States of America should be hosting, Sir? I tell you, Eric, we're having a tough time hearing you by phone. Can you try this again?
Erik Prince
Can we, can you hear me now, Steve?
Steve Bannon
Yeah, I can hear you now. Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead, sir. Got you.
Erik Prince
It is not our party, not our responsibility. And despite all the best wonderful intelligence estimates that it'll all be smooth and easy in one quick raid in and out. People said the same thing about bombing the Serbs in the late 90s. 57 millimeter anti aircraft artillery shot down an F117 stealth fighter. Was it a lucky shot? We don't know. The fact that we lost a bunch of stealth technology to the Chinese and lost a pilot and had to do a massive rescue effort. Shit happens. The biggest thing is the Israelis should have been able to develop the ability to do bunker busters themselves. It takes a big steel casing. You can buy them like a tie bar for a die cast machine or you can buy an old gun barrel from a, from a warship and you mill it out and you drop it. They make plenty of guidance kits and I know they're flying propeller driven aircraft over that battle space now because they're dropping some large anfield bombs. So clearly the air defense system is not that high. They can. In the same way that a SEAL team drops a boat out of the back of a cargo airplane, you can deploy a Moab, the Same way a Moab or a big 15, 20 ton bomb out of their existing C130 and get the job done. So. Or they can rent an IL76. There's a ton of those floating around Dubai and around Africa that'll drop 90 tons. So again, if they wanted to do it that badly, they could do it themselves. But they want to press, with all their political manipulation in Washington, they want to press America into it. And it is not our fight. We really sucked at rebuilding Iraq to the point that we lost Iraq to Iran. And you know, the old Colin Powell saying, you know, we break it, we buy it. I don't want to be responsible as a US Taxpayer for reconstructing Iran, especially after what the Democrats did to Libya. It's still wrecked 15 years later.
Steve Bannon
But they're saying, but hang on, Eric, this is supposed to be a targeted hit just to take out the last part of the nuclear, you know, the enrichment program, the weaponization program to take that out. Bibi's now in the New York Post saying today he agrees with you. They can do it and maybe with additional commandos. But it's only the Israelis talking about regime change. President Trump's been pretty adamant about that. Would that change your thinking that there's not going to be regime change here? Or do you think that naturally follows and Iran goes into total chaos?
Erik Prince
If the Iranian people want to be free, they should rise up and grab their freedom. You know, the Reza Pahlavi, the so called crown prince of Iran, all he's done for the last 40 years is go to Hillary Clinton's cocktail parties. They haven't done anything to actually organize Iranian freedom. So externally sponsoring it, bad idea for the US if it's just one targeted strike, fine. Let the Israelis do that. Let them figure it out. If it was that strategically important to them. I mean, 15, 20 years ago, they had to see how to drop.
Steve Bannon
A.
Erik Prince
Milled out heavy steel artillery barrel basically and turn it into a deep penetrator. It's not rocket science. I mean, if they can build Iron Dome and all the sensitive guidance and fusing for that, it can certainly build a bunker buster. So again, trying to outsource that and coerce America politically into it is a really bad idea. And I'm pretty resolute on it.
Steve Bannon
ERIK Prince, in 2017, in the spring, you wrote a Wall Street Journal opinion piece. You were on Fox. The President saw you, as you know, I tried to shepherd you through different, different areas of the West Wing, the National Security Council, DoD, all of it, because you had A plan about getting what we should do in Afghanistan, the president wanted to execute. It didn't happen for many reasons we don't know to go into. But the president really trusts your judgments in areas like this. If you had three minutes with the president today. I'll give you three minutes. Tell me what you would tell the President. United States.
Erik Prince
The United States has a terrible track record of nation building, striking, striking out, or being the outsourced enforcer for the Middle East. It is not our fight. It is not worth another any more American blood or treasure. Every. Everything we've done in the last 30 years in the Middle east has been an abysmal failure. Stop now. The best. If you're in a hole, the best thing to do is to stop digging. If the Israelis really feel that now, after all these decades, there's finally an Iranian nuclear program, and if the Iranians had a nuke, they would have used it by now, or they would have at least. I mean, they're at least playing by some rules because they're not dropping dirty bombs. Clearly, they can strike anywhere in Israel since they're smacking targets in downtown Tel Aviv. None of them have been a dirty bomb. If they wanted to play that dirty, they would have done it. So again, that is not our job to take out the rest of their nuclear program if it's that strategic. For the Israelis or for the other Saudi Arabia.
Steve Bannon
Last question. I think we're losing, Eric. I'll try. Last thing. Do you think the party's on? Do you think that, you know, because he can't find somebody to negotiate with in Tehran, that this weekend the party's on, sir?
Erik Prince
I hope not. I hope it's just a bluff or that they're at least staging the aircraft forward so they can have a shorter response time instead of having to fly them all the way from Missouri.
Steve Bannon
Eric, where do people keep up with you? You got a podcast now you're on social media. Where do people go?
Erik Prince
Off leash with Eric Prince. And I'm on X at Real Eric D. Prince.
Steve Bannon
Off the leash. Thank you, brother. Thanks for taking time on a Saturday to join us.
Stephen K. Bannon
You bet.
Erik Prince
Thanks.
Steve Bannon
Taj Gill, how many deployments did you.
Stephen K. Bannon
Do, Sir, I did 16 between Iraq and Afghanistan.
Steve Bannon
Steve, you did 16 deployments, and every time it was. It was still a hot zone, sir.
Stephen K. Bannon
Yeah.
Steve Bannon
Yep.
Taj Gill
From 2000, you've got many friend.
Stephen K. Bannon
2000 all the way through 2001 to 2 and then. But they're peacetime.
Steve Bannon
2001 to 2013. Okay. You have a broad network of friends. And colleagues and comrades that have fought in those conflicts. What is, what is basically collectively, what is their thinking about this current situation, Sir?
Stephen K. Bannon
Probably about 80, 20 to completely stay out of it. And then the 20 are say, like, fine, let's drop a bomb, but that's it. But 100%, no boats on the ground. 80% completely stay out of it. 20%, you know, use the bomb, only the bunker buster. So it's not. It's not popular. This is not a popular thing for Trump. And my opinion is, let's stay out of it. I think. I think Israel can handle it on their own. We should just force Israel's hand and let them do it. They started it, they should finish it. That's. That's my opinion, and that's the opinion of the guys I know. And it's a mix of guys. It's Navy SEALs, Force Recon Marines, Delta Force guys, and some Army Special Forces guys that I've been talking to. And it's not. It's not a popular endeavor, put it that way.
Steve Bannon
Hang on here. Why is it not popular? Why is it not possible?
Stephen K. Bannon
I'll tell you exactly why it's not popular. It's not popular because we're not allowed to win. These things go on forever. We went into Afghanistan and crushed the Taliban in the first year, and then same thing when in Iraq. And then after that, you bring in, like, untold numbers of NGOs, the State Department, and they start nation building during the middle of the war, and they undermine the war fighters, and these things drag on forever. In World War II, we would do unconditional surrender and then do nation building. But now there's more money into nation building in the middle of the war, and they completely screw up the whole war. Nobody's allowed to win. And then we run out of these war zones with our tails between our legs, and people say, oh, we lost Iraq, we lost Afghanistan, we crush the enemy on the battlefield. But the State department and the NGOs go in there and they undermine the military, they undermine the CIA, and they screw up the entire battle space. And then it looks like we lost, but we didn't. That's why nobody wants to fight these wars anymore, because they're not fight. They're not fought the right way.
Steve Bannon
President Trump's going to commit, though. He says if he does it, he doesn't want regime change. It's a targeted strike where the Israelis can't do this right to do it. Would you. First of, what do you think the Persians are going to do if that's done. What do you think the blowback is going to be?
Stephen K. Bannon
If they still have their missile launching capabilities, they're going to hammer Israel. And as we've seen, the Iron Dome only stops 70 to 80% of the incoming missiles. So I think Israel is going to get hammered. We may be successful in shut down their nuclear program, but I think Iran is going to fight back. So then we're going to. Well, Israel is going to have to keep bombing them. And then if they do cut the head off the snake and do a regime change, it's going to turn into a lawless country like Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, Sudan and all the, the rest of the Middle East. It's. I don't think that's going to be a good outcome.
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Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 4578: Trump Returns To DC Today; Israel Stands To Have No Air Capability In The War (cont.)
Release Date: June 21, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon, WarRoom.org
Title: Trump Returns To DC Today; Israel Stands To Have No Air Capability In The War (cont.)
Host Introduction:
Stephen K. Bannon opens the episode by addressing the urgent news surrounding President Donald Trump's return to Washington D.C. Following an interview and press availability at Morristown’s airport, Trump's return marks a critical moment in ongoing national security developments.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Steve Bannon (00:51): “Saturday 21 June in the year of our Lord 2025... As we develop this during the day... stay tuned to Real America's Voice...”
Current Situation:
Bannon discusses the critical state of Israel's air capabilities amid the ongoing conflict, questioning the effectiveness and sustainability of their military operations against Iranian forces.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Steve Bannon (11:27): “The war started last week took only a week... because this has not been front of mind for people...”
Notable Insight:
Lowell Hugo, a guest expert, emphasizes the tactical implications of the current military operations, drawing parallels with past conflicts to underscore the complexity and potential pitfalls of the current strategy.
Discussion:
Bannon delves into the Iraq War, drawing lessons on military strategy, nation-building, and the consequences of regime change.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Steve Bannon (25:01): “It looks like we're marching to the point of no return right now. Right, on bombing Iran.”
Guest Introduction:
Erik Prince, a notable figure with extensive experience in military operations and foreign policy, joins the discussion to provide his perspective on U.S. involvement in the Middle East.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
Erik Prince (32:03): “It is not our party, not our responsibility... It is not our fight.”
Steve Bannon (35:58): “If the Iranian people want to be free, they should rise up and grab their freedom...”
Insights from Erik Prince:
Prince emphasizes the importance of allowing regional powers, like Israel, to take the lead in addressing threats without direct U.S. military involvement. He highlights the logistical challenges and risks associated with targeted strikes, urging for a reevaluation of U.S. foreign policy to avoid further entanglement and unintended consequences.
Discussion:
Bannon and Prince explore the possible outcomes of a targeted military strike against Iran, analyzing both tactical execution and strategic repercussions.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Steve Bannon (41:44): “We are not allowed to win... Nobody's allowed to win. These things go on forever.”
Conclusion:
The discussion underscores the complexity of current geopolitical tensions, advocating for cautious and strategic decision-making to avoid repeating past mistakes and exacerbating regional instability.
Summary:
As the episode nears its end, Bannon reiterates the critical nature of the current geopolitical moment and the significance of informed, strategic action to navigate the unfolding crisis.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
Steve Bannon (52:23): “You are living in one of the most unique moments in history of this country and you are an active participant. You're not just sitting there with your channel changer. You're part of this.”
Final Message:
Bannon emphasizes the role of listeners as active participants in shaping national discourse, urging engagement and vigilance in the face of rapidly evolving geopolitical challenges.
Episode 4578 of Bannon’s War Room provides a deep dive into the immediate return of President Trump to Washington D.C. amidst escalating tensions with Iran and the critical assessment of Israel’s military capabilities. Through historical parallels, expert guest insights from Erik Prince, and strategic analysis, the episode underscores the complexities of U.S. foreign policy and the potential ramifications of military interventions. Listeners are left with a nuanced understanding of the current geopolitical landscape and the imperative for strategic, informed action.
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