
Episode 4581: Warmongers Beg For More Conflict In The Middle East ...
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Anderson Cooper
Yes, Anderson, I would agree with Brad that Iran is extremely weakened right now. In fact, I think that it demonstrates that we did not need to execute Operation Midnight Hammer. The Israelis had this well in hand. There's no reason why we needed to cross that threshold. And my concern is that although maybe the immediate crisis may have ebbed long term, I mean, Iran's in this for the long game. You got 91 million Iranians. And you know, there's no fanatic like a religious fanatic. There's lots of people that are willing to die for their religion. And I think that there's lots that they could potentially do to us in the United States. Might not be this week, might not be next month, but this could very well come back to haunt us. And again, I think that this proves that Operation Midnight Hammer was not needed, that the Israelis could definitely have taken down the nuclear capability, Iranians by themselves, and we did not need to get involved and cross this threshold.
Steve Bannon
If those folks had any sense at all, they would do exactly what Donald Trump is saying right now, save their regime, save their lives, and save an entire region from falling into ruin by their hands. That would be their blood stain for all of history. And, you know, if they don't do that, the big question, Steve, is can this happen more akin to the Soleimani takeout? Now, we supported the Soleimani strike because it was President Trump very clearly resetting deterrence, making clear his desire was not some extended conflict, but resetting deterrence on his terms. And the cascade of horribles didn't happen. So could that happen with a very limited U.S. engagement? I think that's something that's on the President's mind right now.
Jack Posobiec
What stands out to you about this latest attack by Iran, by the response and what seems like the pre warning about it from Iran?
Lindsey Graham
Well, I think it's just absolutely extraordinary and probably needs a heavy dose of common sense from everybody here because what are we really talking about? What we appear to at least to be talking about is the US Was aware that Iran was going to launch these missiles at the US Base in Qatar and possibly at other locations in the Gulf. So what do you have here? You have a US Adversary making clear that they are going to launch weapons against the U.S. the U.S. knew this, decided not to strike first. That's my first point. I find that extraordinary. You, you have to believe the Iranians, that it was going to be a proportional response. U.S. intelligence presumably would have seen launchers, would have seen missiles on launchers, and still they decide not to strike when these are aimed at US Assets. So where does it put President Trump? I mean, does he now order some type of retaliatory action, or does he say, okay, not much happened, Iran aimed at us, but we can move on from this.
Mark Levin
That.
Lindsey Graham
That's putting the it in. In a political box, I think, and also a national security box, because you have to assume America's adversaries around the world are watching this very carefully, and they will be watching to see what kind of US Response here may or may not be coming. So I find it just remarkable. Remarkable that the US Knew this okay, but remarkable now what President Trump may have to do to respond to all of this. Does he just say, okay, never mind, and wait essentially until next time?
Tulsi Gabbard
But the president also was basically relying on a group of people that are not really loyalists per se, but are hawks. And he was. When he made his decision, he was basing it on the intelligence assessment, for example, of General Carrillo, who commands our forces in the Middle east in Central Command. And he was relying on assessments that were more pessimistic about the possibility of Iran being able to produce bombs really quickly, and a desire to. Instead of existing intelligence, including from his own office of the Directorate of National Intelligence and Tulsi Gabbard saying they have no plans to create a nuclear bomb at this moment. And he also relied on Benjamin Netanyahu, who said to him, I think, actually in a kind of a goading way, remember, they tried to kill you twice. And that's pretty personal for Donald Trump, because when he ordered the strike in 2020 that killed the IRCG's leading general, when that happened with Soleimani, the revenge plan for Iran was born.
Brian Hook
We mentioned Fordo, and it was Iran's decision to put 10 cascades of very advanced centrifuges in Fordo in that underground facility. This crisis could not end with all of that intact. Now, we're still waiting for the bda, the battle damage assessment of that Fordo strike. I suspect that the centrifuges are probably totally inoperable, and Fordo will not be an enrichment facility that Iran has going forward. That's good. But look, we want to stay focused here on the mission. There should not be mission creep. The mission is let's make sure Iran's nuclear program cannot be restored. If there is material diverted, that has to be accounted for, I think there's a diplomatic path to ensure you can do that. But in any case, we are where we are. We did the operation 48 hours ago. We now have Iran's response. I think this is about as good as you could hope for in terms of a response. You now have a ceiling on it. But the equation here has been completely changed in terms of Iran's vulnerability, weakness, and the initiative here being with the Israelis, the Americans and our partners. And I, I just. It's almost. You asked. I've been around this for some time. This is the America I just can't overestimate. We did the attack into Iran and this is Iran's response and they're saying that's it. This is a totally new equation, Anderson. Crisis will recede. But you're standing in the middle of a very new Middle East.
Unknown Speaker
Sometimes the military has to be used. If it's used by a smart commander in chief.
Mark Levin
Let me.
Unknown Speaker
If it's used wisely. If it's just.
Mark Levin
I can't take Levin again. Thank you. Let's go live. You're here at the war room. Jack Posobics with me. It is Tuesday 23. Excuse me. Monday. Monday 23rd. June, year of Lord 2025. Let's go live to the Senate floor. Lindsey Graham still pushing. He's upselling you. Let's listen to it live.
Unknown Speaker
Always been this way. So what happened? They had a revolution. In 1979-1981, there was an uprising in Iran that led to the installing of the Ayatollah as the leader of Iran. The first Ayatollah Khomeini. And now we're on the second one, Khomeini. Now. What is this thing all about? These are students pouring over the US embassy and our embassy personnel. 50American hostages were held for 444 days by these nut jobs. They were subjected to intense physical and psychological torture throughout their captivity, such as mock executions, beating, solitary confinement and very bad living conditions. So this is what they did when they took over. They came after us, held our people hostage and treated us very brutally. In 1984, the United States made Iran a state sponsor of terrorism under US Law because of the way the Iranian regime under the Ayatollah was conducting himself. They were wreaking havoc throughout the region and they were doing things against Israel and the United States that justified their designation in 1984 as a state sponsor of terrorism. And that has not changed. Now why are they state sponsored terrorists? Because they're terrorists and they support terrorists. Hezbollah. $700 million we project was given to Iran by Hezbollah. It's almost their entire budget. They're a terrorist group, mainly in Lebanon of the Shia branch of the tree, Hamas, who conducted the October 7th attack against Israel. Israel projects that 93% Hamas military budget came from Iran. And we have the Houthis. All of their missiles and rockets came from Iran. We've got Shiite groups in Iraq funded by Iran. Now why are they a state sponsor of terrorism? Because they sponsor terrorism all over the world. And they did it with petrodollars from the Iran nuclear deal and other sources of revenue, which was a really bad idea. And that's why Trump pulled out. Here's the reporting over the period here. Hamas, Iran alliance captured documents exposed decades long tariff funding. So when Israel began to liberate Gaza from Hamas and drive out Hamas terrorists, they found a treasure trove of documents showing the history between Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. Suitcase stuffed with cash. US flow of funds to Yemen to help the Houthis. What else have they done other than funding terrorist groups? They've threatened to kill American officials. President Trump, Brian Hook, General McKenzie, Robert O' Brien, Mike Pompeo, former Secretary of Defense Mark Esper. All these people involved in the Soleimani attack. Now why did we go after Soleimani? Because he was the leader of the more radical elements of their military that had been targeting Americans and he was planning to attack our forces in Iraq. And Trump took him out. 1983, Beirut barracks bombing. Hezbollah supported by Iran. Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia. Terrorist groups supported by Iran. That's why they're terrorists. They have been coming after our interest. They've attacked our shipping in the Red Sea, the Houthis have. And they couldn't fire one missile without Iranian support because that's where all their rockets come from. Now, some cast of characters here. The recent new president was sworn in in Iran during the swearing in of the Iranian president. The crowd started chanting, death to America. Death to America. During the swearing in of the new president not long ago, July 30, 2024, not quite a year ago. So people wonder what they're up to. Let me tell you what they say.
Mark Levin
Bad things about us, Lindsey. Is that what they did? They said bad, bad things. They said bad things. They said bad things. We've had a million people killed by fentanyl directly from the Chinese Communist Party in the cartels. One million Americans, 50,000 a year. More than Vietnam, more than the entire time in Vietnam. And all these guys do working for a foreign power. And that's what they're doing, representing a foreign power, seeing their time and time again. I want my staff as soon as Lindsey says anything interesting. Jack, I think we might have an off ramp today, right? I think we might have an off ramp because I don't know, is it becoming clear to people, first off, in all, the bombing that's taken place and everything we know, battle damage assessment, does it look like any ballistic missile, you know, any ballistic missile to get to the United States, any real weapon is any warhead, is there any, you know, bomb? Was there anything that Mossad gave us this intelligence that we had to go last Thursday night? Let's expose the lies and misrepresentations. Jack Posobec tell me and by the way, today, Qatar, this was total performative. They informed everybody. They just sent the same amount of missiles. It's cosplay. President Trump did the assault magnificently and now it's over. Everybody can move on.
Jack Posobiec
Jack posobic well, Steve, you know, and here we have Senator Lindsey Graham, the upseller, right, he's up there. And Mark, Mark Levin also on Twitter as well, and I'm sure he will on on Fox at some point saying how are we just going to allow them to stay? We can't just allow them to stay. We've got to go in, we've got to do more, we've got to do this more, more, more, more, more. Full on regime change. Full on regime change. And I said, Lindsey Graham, with this, you know, history lesson, I wish you could dial it back just a little bit to the regime change that happened just before the regime change of the Iranian student revolution, because a little something called Operation Ajax that perhaps we could talk about in the 1950s, back when Iran was a democratic Republican. And who was it that overthrew? Oh, right, the CIA overflew the overthrew the democratic prime minister of Iran, Mosaddegh, and reinstalled the Shah. That's what made the Iranians so mad they turn to a nut job. Like I told Khamenei, it was the last time all these eggheads got together in the CIA and said this will be a great idea. It's going to work real well for everybody.
Unknown Speaker
Why?
Jack Posobiec
It was about oil because BP controlled the, the oil, all the oil fields in Iran and then Mozadda came in and nationalized it and he said, oh, we can't have that. So start with MI6 because pre Vietnam, by the way, the same way the French came to us about Vietnam, the British came to us about Iran. Go look at anyone, go look this up, go at chat dpt, go ask grok about it, whatever you want and you will see it's very, very clear that regime change Led to the Shah. So we overthrew democratic Iran. Let's get it straight. That was us. Then the shah himself got overthrown because they were so mad at the Americans that they turned to the nuts in the Islamic revolution. That's the actual history, all right? And you can. You can understand that, or you can lie like Lindsey Graham is right now, because you want more regime change, more war, more death. The same way Lindsey Graham pushed regime change in Ukraine back in 2014, and the same way he's been for every single war since he's been alive.
Mark Levin
Lady Lindsay's doing an upsell. You got Lady Lindsay on the floor of the Senate. If anything interesting, I want to go back and we can capture this, maybe play it, replay. And of course, Mark Levin upselling you, upselling you. The phony urgency there's nothing urgent here.
Jack Posobiec
It's almost like it's never about the nuclear program to these guys. Almost like these guys always wanted the regime change.
Mark Levin
That might be. Jack, tell us what happened this afternoon. Cutter did as soon as we got off the show. I think during your show, Qatar actually responded. President Trump put out a really smart truth social about this. Qatar got involved. I think it was the same amount of missiles, symbolically, that, you know, same amount of warheads that we sent. I think 14. They took care of them. The symbolism's there. Everybody. All. All the smart people saying, hey, both sides are kind of had their say. Now there's an off ramp. President Trump, I think looking at kind of the vibe coming out of this, is not buying the upsell as hard as Fox is pushing it. Not buying the upsell. So isn't. Don't we have a.
Jack Posobiec
He's not buying the rust coding.
Mark Levin
Then we say, no, no, no.
Unknown Speaker
Geez.
Mark Levin
From the great movie Fargo. What happens here? The president. The president's going to look at his alternatives and say, I can shut this one down right now, sir.
Jack Posobiec
Look, President Trump's been very clear about this, is that he's always drawn a circle around the nuclear program. Denuclearization. That's always been his goal. He said it so many times. He said it the day he came down the escalator. He said it in podcast and interview after interview. He always mentioned, Iran can't have a nukes. Iran can't have nukes. Iran can't have nukes. Okay? President Trump has now effectuated that the commander's desired end state. You're in the military. You understand? This is the commander's desired end state. And the commander's desired end state has been written and has been achieved. So now you have all these people running around saying, wait a minute. We called out on this program. Hey, Jack said.
Mark Levin
Jack, hang on. Jack, hang on. We got so much. Good lady. Lindsay. Let's cut back to the Senate floor. He's given us a history lesson you're going to want to hear.
Unknown Speaker
Against the state of Israel. You don't understand his religion. What drove Hitler? A sick, twisted, distorted view of the master race. These people want to master religion, not a master race. They want to dominate the world religiously. That's what they're all about. They export terrorism in the name of religion. They support groups that want to take down secular regimes. They want a master religion like the Nazis wanted a master race. And let me tell you what our friends in Israel are saying. Hell, no. Once is enough. So what should Israel do? Here's what Israel should do. They should fight back to the American people. What would our country do if there was one missile shot into South Carolina or Alabama from a foreign power that killed our citizens? Everybody in South Carolina, Alabama would be wanting to end the terror and go after the people who did it, and it would be the entire nation. Why should we expect Israel to tolerate what we wouldn't tolerate? There's been over a thousand missiles shot into Israel since their founding. People have been trying to kill them all. Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis have one thing in common. They're all funded by Iran. All the weapons come from the Iranians. What is this all about? Killing the Jews and eventually us and dominating the world religiously. If you think that's weird, then you need to get on the Internet and listen to what they're doing. You need to watch their behavior and they mean what they say. And don't be like the people in the 30s that got it wrong. Israel's not going to let it get it wrong the second time. Donald Trump. God bless President Donald J. Trump. I am so glad he won. What has he tried to do? Make peace, not war. He gave the Ayatollah 60 days to find a peaceful settlement regarding their enrichment program. They could have nuclear power, but they can't enrich. There are 20 nations that have nuclear power to get the fuel for their reactors outside their country. We would have done that for Iran. They were tapping him along. 61 days go by and the rest is history. They're not interested in peace. They're interested in fulfilling a religious agenda that has no place for us or the state of Israel. Hitler didn't want peace. There was not a part of the country you could give him to stop him from enacting his sick and twisted agenda. He didn't want German speaking populations. He wanted the entire world to speak German. He wanted the entire world to fall under his Nazi regime. He was nuts. And it took a bunch of people from all over the world, particularly America, to destroy the Third Reich. And about 60 million people died because we got it wrong in the 30s, 6 million Jews. We're not going to let that happen again. As long as I'm around the presiding officer of President Trump and the people of Israel, we're not going to let that happen. We're going to stick with Israel because sticking with them is helping us. They're fighting the people that want to kill us as much as they want to kill all the Jews. Their fight, in my view, is our fight. Operation Midnight hammer. After day 60, all the negotiations went nowhere because the Iranians didn't want him to go anywhere. President Trump acted and it was brilliant, it was bold, and it will live in history. To all those who took part in this, God bless you. We have the finest military on earth. We prove that yet again. But you can have the best military if you don't have the right commander in chief, nothing happens. We got the right commander in chief married up with the strongest military in history, which will make us safer. We're not looking to take over Iran. We're not looking to invade Iran. We're looking to make sure that the fanatics who run Iran can't hurt us and can't destroy our friends in Israel. And President Trump did something about it. He sent B2S to Guam and everybody thought, well, what's that all about? Well, they missed the other B2s that went to Iran and put a hurting on these three enrichment sites. To the pilots, to the air crews, to everybody involved, well done. I spent 30 something years in the Air Force and I've never been more proud. Fly, fight, win. Now what's next? They shot missiles at our air base in Qatar. The Iranians did today. About 16 or 19. One may have gotten through. I think they called us. But just remember what I said. They shot missiles at us today. They shot missiles at Israel last night. The strikes a couple of days ago were designed to shut down the enrichment facilities used to make this weapons grade uranium. I think we're substantially successful. I've never been more proud of President Trump and our military and I think we set back their nuclear program substantially. But here's what we didn't do. We didn't change their desire for A nuclear weapon. We changed the capability to make one. Here's my goal is to have people in charge of Iran who don't want a nuclear weapon to destroy Israel, who will not be the largest state sponsor of terrorism, but live in peace with their neighbors and have a good relationship with the United States. That's what I want. And if you don't want that, there's something wrong with you. How do you get that? Two ways. The religious fanatics reject their agenda. They change their behavior. Maybe that'll happen, I don't know. Or you change the people and you replace the religious fanatics. Well, people in Iran who do not want to destroy the world, who do not want to create a master religion, who want to live in peace, and I think that's the vast majority of the Iranians. If we get this right, stick with Israel, stand up to this bully, this religious fanatical regime, let Israel do what they need to do, then I think peace is coming. The presiding officer and myself went to Saudi Arabia and Israel to talk about Saudi Arabia recognizing the Jewish state under certain conditions. Before the attack of October 7, we were very close to expanding the Abraham Accords to include a deal between Saudi Arabia and Israel that basically would end the Arab Israeli conflict. An amazing moment in history. October 7th comes along a vicious, brutal attack on Israel by Hamas, which is fully funded by Iran raping women, killing children in front of the parents, and doing things that we really don't need to be talking about on the floor. That was designed to stop reconciliation between Saudi Arabia and Israel, because for the Iranian fanatical regime, the worst nightmare for the Arab world to make peace with Israel and move toward the light. These people want darkness for the world. So what do we do now? Israel has had it. I talked to the prime minister yesterday before I went on television, and I asked him, what would you like me to tell America, Bibi? He said three things. We're profoundly grateful to the American people for what you do to help the Jewish state. We couldn't be here without you. We're profoundly grateful to President Trump for his strong leadership. He also wanted me to urge the people of Iran to seize the moment, to end the nightmare you've been living. And the third thing he wanted me to tell the American people is Israel is not going to live this way anymore. They're not going to raise their children in bomb shelters. They're not going to have their life interrupted daily by ballistic missiles coming from religious Nazis who want to kill all the Jews like Hitler. They're not going to put up with that. Regime change is coming to Iran. One or two. The regime renounces what they've been doing since 1979 and change course or it's replaced. To expect Israel to do anything else is offensive to me. You're asking Israel to accept normal. Being attacked every day and every night by over 500 ballistic missiles. Over 24 Israeli citizens have been killed. The missiles going into Israel are designed to kill children. The attack by the Israelis are designed to shut down the regime's nuclear capability. But the targets are changing. They're now going after the police force that keeps the Ayatollah in power. The intelligence services that scare people into submission. The prisons that house dissidents. Israel has made a faithful decision to go to the heart of this regime. To take these religious Nazis down one way or the other. Reject Nazism in the form of religion or get new people. And I am with them. I'm with them to the bitter end. I'm with them because being with them is in your own interest. If you're an American. Being with them is in your own interest. If you believe in religious tolerance. Being with Israel means you reject a regime that would take a 16 year old girl off the bus and beat her to death because she didn't have a head cover. This is evil we're fighting. These are as evil as the Nazis. 80 years later we're having a debate about what the Jewish people should do to a group that wants to kill them all. Really. We're debating among ourselves what is too much against a regime trying to build dozens of nuclear weapons to blow people off the planet they don't like or agree with. What kind of world are we living in? To all those who want to hold Israel back. What would you do if it were our country? Would you hold us back if you tried to? We'd run you over. We're not going to live this way as Americans. So what is this all about? I'm going to end where I began. It's about a fanatical regime that took over the country by force. That started out imprisoning Americans. Been trying to build nuclear bombs. Multiple nuclear bombs. Has been the largest state sponsor of terrorism since 1984. Has American blood on its hands. Has attacked Israel over and over and over again. Has suppressed its own people. It's about a religious agenda. Why do they do what they do? Religious fanatical beliefs. A master religion for the world. And if you don't believe that you have missed a lot. That's what they want. And the Only way they're not going to get there is for somebody to stop them. What did Hitler want? To take over the entire world and create a master race. Anybody that didn't fit his definition of the right kind of person was imprisoned or killed. The Ayatollah and his henchmen have that same view, but it's religiously driven. So what happens in the next few days is going to determine the course of history for the state of Israel and the region for decades to come. To our friends in Israel, finish the job, do what you have to do to bring about the regime change that will allow your children sleep through the night. To the American people, wake up. Understand what we're fighting. The Ayatollah is not normal. These are not normal people. Stand with Israel. Standing with Israel. You're standing by your. You're helping your own self. You're helping your own families. I'll make a prediction. Israel's going to win, and this regime's going to fall. This regime's going to fall of its own way. The people in Iran are going to have a chance, as the regime gets weakened, to rise up and take back their own lives. I don't know when that day is coming, but it's coming soon. I believe that. I believe the day of reckoning is here for the religious Nazis running around, that their terrorism is coming to an end. And it's going to be replaced by a region that moves together where Sunnis and Shias and Israelis and all different groups, Christians, work together to build economies where all boats rise. We live in a time of choosing. I choose to stand up to evil. Thank you, Madam President. I yield the floor.
Mark Levin
Okay. We wanted you to hear that in its entirety, for all its rhetorical beauty. Number one, Senator Graham, I don't think anybody in the worm audience. Our mantra has been quite simple. The Israelis should go for it, go at it. The idf, the Israeli Air Force, Bibi Netanyahu. The whole crowd goes. If regime changed. And that's not. I just want to make sure everybody understands the bait and switch here. Bibi's been very open, including the other night, last night, that it was take out the nuclear program, stop the ballistic missile program. Right, Those two things. And he wasn't going to fight a war of attrition. I think that was the third. Now we get the upsell that is regime change. Israelis, if they want to do that, if that's in their strategic interest, they can't live like this anymore. And the mullahs are bad guys, Very bad guys. Okay. Very Bad people. If the Israelis want to remove them and have regime change, go for it. The ask for us, and the only ask for us was to come in and help taking out the nuclear program, which President Trump and I just repeat, the commander in chief of these United States, we obliterated in, in Operation Midnight Hammer. Obliterated. That is President Trump's term, obliterated. So the upsell, we need boots in the ground to find out where the material is, all of that. There's no upsell here. There's no upsell. There's no more nation building. There's no more regime change coming from the people of the United States. People don't support it. The Israelis, that's different. That's their fight, and they should finish what they started. And they're fully capable of finishing what they started. Jack Bouk, he said the next couple of days, the pressure on President Trump, you see where it's coming from? Lindsey, I hate to say it, brother, you got to get that speech down better and you got to marshall your facts better. You did not stick the landing. Jack Bosobic.
Jack Posobiec
Steve, I think, I think what, what the war room posse would see right here is a little bit of a spread between the bid and the ask. A little bit of bid ask spread on this one. I said, they said, no, we, we know what the offer is, but, but no, the bid is here, but the ask is way too high. Look, when it comes. And by the way, did Lindsey Graham, did I just hear him say something? That Sunni and Shia will be working together to rebuild the new Iran and lift all boats that I was in, Jews and Christians did I see. Just like they did in Iraq, right, Lindsay? Just like they did in Iraq when we'd be greeted as liberators. Just like Iraq when it didn't break out in sectarian violence. And you had the Mahdi army and you had Al Qaeda in Iraq, which turned into isis, by the way. And all this and Muqtad Al Saudr and the rest of it. This, this, this, this stuff. By the way, Steve, let me very clear about something. Lindsey Graham knows exactly what he's doing. He is paid to do this. The same way that Lindsey Graham destroyed our chances in the midterms of, of 22 when he walked up and said, we're going to do a nationwide abortion ban right before the midterms. He is a paid operative. And Lindsey Graham, it doesn't matter. If I could sit here and go through all of the different discrepancies and the holes in his arguments and the holes in his logic. But that's not the point. The real point. And this is why you come on war room, right? We don't do that, we don't do that mid level stuff. This is top tier. This is top shelf. This is graduate level. Lindsey Graham is paid by the military industrial complex to go on TV and sell you war and to go in the United States Senate and sell war. That is his job. That is who he works for. That is. Let's look at the state, right? What, who else was that from? South Carolina. That's right. Nikki Haley. Right, Nikki Haley. Lindsey Gray. How do they end up having the same exact, the same exact foreign policy and another South Carolina politician. I'm sorry, I'm going to say it. Think he's a nice guy, Tim Scott, but he's a neocon nice guy. Still a neocon because again, joint military industriality.
Mark Levin
That's where they got the MAGA people. Go down the list down there. Trade, trade, gow to go down the list. All the police, by the way, let's, let's get back Lindsey Graham.
Jack Posobiec
I don't like the current governor. He's going to be, he's going to be pitching.
Mark Levin
He's going to be pitching. He's going to be pitching. You Ukraine, remember he's just over in Ukraine stirring up trouble. Right?
Jack Posobiec
Yeah.
Mark Levin
President Trump said specifically to him and Pompeo, watch what you say. Watch what you say. I want to go back to the argument. Jack Bosobake, are you saying that Israel shouldn't do what's in Israel's national security interest and putting Israel first and Israeli citizens first, sir.
Jack Posobiec
Well, Steve, look, I mean this is, has been Israel's fight for, as Lindsey Graham mentioned for quite some time, obviously the Iranian Revolution 1979, the Modern State of Israel, 1948. So this has been between the two of them for quite some time now. We know of course the current hostilities kicked off a week ago. But so, so Steve. Yeah. If they're going to continue to go at it, that's, that's in Israel's prerogative. That is their right to fight. They have a right to self defense just the same way any nation has a right to their self defense. What they don't have a right to do is a right to tell the President United States what to do. President Donald Trump is the one in command and not anybody else. And so what I would also point out though is, and we've walked through this on Human events daily, the real issue of the order of battle, the magnitude of the expense of these air interceptor missiles. This air defense. By the way, we already cut air defense for Ukraine so we could backfill the air defense over Israel. So what does that mean? Well, the Russians are now pounding Kiev right now because they have the ability to do so. What are we doing next? We're dropping coverage of the South China Sea now. There's two Chinese aircraft carriers, the Shandong and Liaoning, which are operating in South China Sea. For the first time, China has more aircraft carriers that are active over in the West Pac Western Pacific than we do. All right, this, this is a finite world. And as conservatives we understand that we live in a finite world. And these are hard facts of reality, hard facts of reality. And that's what we deal in here. The hard facts of reality that this is air defense is going to be a lot of money for them to keep up. So it's been painful for both sides and that's why I think President Trump is right to say, you know what this is the time for everybody to put the guns down and say stop, enough is enough.
Mark Levin
But we'll see did in the new the upsell is the regime change reset at the very beginning and the tell was when we had to provide the Tomahawk missiles for the third site that.
Jack Posobiec
The Israeli Air Force because they think they got their foot in the door. Now there's the foot in the door strategy.
Mark Levin
Did you did for the salesman the full of brushman did you they're throwing dirt on your carpet that you are saying right that always be close be abc. Hey get get Lindsey a great David.
Jack Posobiec
You know another war room guest.
Mark Levin
Get get Lindsey a cup of warpath coffee Coffees for closers. Lindsay receive you close this close the cell. Did you smell a little fear? They finally have some resistance here. They're calling out for their lies. The Fox News lies the upsell they're trying to drag America into another forever war. Did you smell a little he was a little hysterical down there, was he not Got a little emotional sir.
Jack Posobiec
Well, again Steve, you know these theater kids that's what they're paid to do and maybe he's working on his summer stock down there in Charleston. I'm not sure but he's you know, he's auditioning for I don't know what if he's going for Much ado about Nothing. That's pretty much what I think goes on for for Lindsey Graham. But but you know, not exactly Othello material. But when I when I think about.
Mark Levin
It plays Puck in Midsummer Night's Dream. I don't know.
Jack Posobiec
Puck in Midsummer Night's Dream. Yeah, yeah. Tanya and I, of course, are over on Tanya.
Mark Levin
I digress. Go ahead, sir. This is serious. His speech was not serious. His speech was not serious. That's one of the reasons. Have a tough.
Jack Posobiec
No, it's. Again, you're looking at a paid infomercial, all right? You're looking at. Maybe you could take some lessons from Mike Lindell. Because Mike Lindell, there's a guy who could sell anything, right? The only thing is, Mike Lindell's loyalty is to the United States of America and not the military industrial complex. You need some of that personality, which, which, Which Mike doesn't have. Mike doesn't do that. You know, Mike doesn't do the fake emotionality. He doesn't do the fake, you know, crying tears like Alex Padilla last week. Oh, gosh, they hurt me so much. Now, Mike Lindell speaks from the heart because Mike Lindell is authentic. Because people know, come to the war room because you want that raw authenticity. You can't get it from these guys. You can't get it from these phony career politicians. You're not going to get it from the talking heads at Fox. You get it from people who get beat up a couple of three times because we tell the truth.
Mark Levin
Here's what I want to thank. Parker Sig and Rob Sig at Real America's Voice. This is one of the reasons we love being associated with this channel. Right there. You don't see that on Fox. We allowed Lindsey Graham when he went to the floor Senate. We heard about it, right? He put it a big tweet. We let Lindsey Graham have. I think it looked like 30 or 40 minutes, although I know it felt longer. 30, 40 minutes uninterrupted. We blew the commercial breaks. We set economics aside and said, hey, let Lindsey make. And this is what we try to do is just get the camera, let him have the kids camera and the microphone, and we step out of it. No commentary. Let it roll. You heard the pitch at home. What are you thinking about? I'd love to get in the chats. What is your response? You heard it. He's. He's making that address to the American people and MAGA right there. You heard it. We didn't interrupt one time. We let him have his entire pitch. Okay? Something you don't see on Fox, they get these little snippets. You heard. You heard the pitch. Is he upselling you? Because there's no restriction at all from the MAGA folks on Israel we're supporters of Israel. Israel sees that they're not going to live by that, that they have a new. That they've come up with a new. A new goal or objective in this fight, which has not been announced before. Now, finally, somebody's coming out. We do appreciate that. Don't hide the football. Come out now. It's regime change, and that's fine. I think we said that on Friday. The first morning we said this was a decapitation strike, did we not? Because it looked like there was more than the nuclear plan. But, hey, President Trump went in and President Trump's words. He obliterated Midnight Hammer, obliterated the nuclear program. Okay? He delivered what he said. And a lot of his supporters saying, hey, we shouldn't even do that. But President Trump delivered with the valor and courage and boldness of our military. That's it. If you want an upsell, the people in Israel want to do it. Come off the chain. They got a fantastic military. They've beaten Hezbollah, they're beating the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas in Gaza. They've won it in southern Syria. Right? This is back to the 1967 and 1973 IDF and Israeli air Force. They're brave, they're courageous. They know what they want to do. If Bibi's changed his thing, go for it. Finish what you started. Okay? There's no need here, zero need for the United States of America to get sucked into regime change in a country that's, I don't know, 5,000 years old. In 1971, they had the biggest party in the world. This guy's dad, the Shah of Iran at the time, put on a party for the 25th hundredth birthday of Persia. Remember that, Jack? They had. It was on the COVID of Life magazine, was the biggest celebration Military 2500 years of Persia. These folks have been around a long time. Israel wants to do it. Lindsey Graham made a good case for Israel to do it. They should get on with it. Jack Posobec, your thoughts? Well.
Jack Posobiec
And Steve, you look, you know, you know, you got Mark Levin up there because he can't close the upsell. And I'm reading this tweet of his again because President Trump has said Iran should now proceed to peace and harmony in the region. And I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same. And Mark Levin then responds. And the only way I can read this is that Mark Levin is now openly attacking the president, United States, duly elected, by saying that would be a disastrous outcome by providing an off ramp without unconditional surrender. Will the regime be given a lifeline and survive to terrorize and murder, build more ballistic missiles and develop nukes and intercontinental ballistic missiles in the future. By the way, Mark, you just admitted that Iran didn't have ICBMs, which means they couldn't hit the United States. So he's saying that President Trump calling for peace is a disastrous outcome. So now, because he can't close the sale, and President Trump has rightly said no, nuclear denuclearization is the only thing I'm for now, Levin has turned fire on Donald Trump himself.
Mark Levin
As we knew he would. All those guys, they see President Trump as nothing more than an instrument. They're not part of the MAGA movement. They've never been part of the MAGA movement. They banned Trump.
Jack Posobiec
He's real maga.
Mark Levin
He's super maga. He's. No, he's not just maga. He's Team Trump. He's Team Trump. I guess he's getting off the team because President Trump is not going along with their insane regime change plan. For America, for Israel. It sounds great. Go for it. Go for it. And best of luck. Best of luck. I actually think Israel could do that. I think Israel. I think the IDF is that good. I think they're that courageous. I think the Israeli Air force is that good. Get on with it. You have air supremacy, right? If you put some commandos in there, you've already killed. Mossad's already brilliantly assassinated a ton of people. They try to have Bastille Day today because they bombed the prison, they bombed the Revolutionary Guards headquarters. Hit him with missiles. Go for it. We're already supplying. We're already in as a combatant supplying the defense. President Trump's not going to pull that back. I think it's hiding. Like he pulls the Arleigh Burke class ships out of the Eastern Mediterranean. He doesn't pull back the air assets. They don't stop giving him aero missiles. So the United States is going to do as much as they can defensively, although it does make us a combatant. But, Bibi, if you guys want to go for regime change, you don't need Lindsey Graham upselling the American people on the floor of the Senate. Go for it. Finish what you started. In fact, maybe you take your number two pencil out and write it down. Finish what you started, okay? And if it's. If it's an existential threat, then go for it. Your country deserves to do it. It's in the vital national security interests of Israel. It should be done by Israel. Short break. Post on the other side this July there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. The block of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Persia are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio Reset. 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Unknown Speaker
Military has to be used. If it's used by a smart commander chief, if it's used wisely, if it's used for a specific purpose, it gives us peace. So I want the so called, I don't know what to call them, people running around warmonger, the sloganeers. There should be an education for you too. There should be an education for you too, America. Don't you feel relief? Of course you feel relief. Because these Islamo Nazis were building nuclear weapons to attack us too with intercontinental ballistic missiles. Guess what? You can go to bed peacefully tonight. No, that's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. Not because of Obama, not because of Biden, not because of the Democrats, not because of some Republicans, because of Donald Trump.
Mark Levin
Not because of Bush or any of the guys you push for the Iraq war. That's the, that's the historical, historic, hysterical insanity you get. Mark Levin is going to be teaching a lot of people. Yeah, we're sitting there, we got our number two principles that were ready to write it down. Jack Posobic, Mark Levin for going to bed sleep and President Trump being so great. He ain't so great. President Trump's not so great right now. Right. Because Is Mark Levin. Please read his tweet at President Trump about President Trump, a man of Peace who deserves 10 Nobel prizes, right? 10 Nobel prizes. Read what he's saying about President Trump right now.
Jack Posobiec
Well, I mean, Steve, you know, this is. This is what we call in the biz. We call this a sub tweet because President Trump earlier today said he enthusiastically encourages Israel and Iran to proceed to peace and harmony in the region. Immediately after that, Mark Levin tweets the Iranian Nazi regime, same rhetoric as Lindsey Graham, is desperately trying to hold on to power with no effective options. Will the regime be provided an off ramp without surrendering unconditionally? In other words, will the regime be given a lifeline and survive to terrorize and murder, build more ballistic missiles, develop nukes and intercontinental missiles in the future? That would be a disastrous outcome after all of that. So right there you see him countermanding the president. This is an obvious subtweet. This is obviously directed at President Trump, calling him a. Call him saying that he. That he is backing down, that he's allowing this lifeline, that he's allowing, you know, an off ramp, and basically call it putting him in the same bucket. What did he call him? The isolationists? Now he's putting President Trump in that bucket as well.
Mark Levin
President Trump's not saying. He's not offered any lifeline, not saying that Israel should finish what they started. Write that down. Mark, next time you have your chat with Bibi, tell him that. Finish what your war room says. Hey, Bibi, we love you. We got your back. Finish what you started. Jack, where do people go exactly? Yeah, no, that's what it said the other day. Regime change. I was just, I was just. I was sub. Whatever. I'd put it up on Getter for the president, for the commander in chief said, hey, check with Bibi. That's, that's, that's Bibi in the, in the, in the IDF issue. By the way, they should do it. They're running the tables anyway. It just. We've done. President Trump committed to stop the nuclear weapons program. President Trump has now said, I think 20 times over the last couple hours. He obliterated it. Okay? Obliterated it. End of discussion. Time to move on Israel. Have at it. Jack, where do people go for your content?
Jack Posobiec
Well, Steve will be up here as well at Jack Posobic. X on Getter, on Truth, on Telegram, of course, are going to be out there with a huge breaking news show today. Tomorrow we're going to get into the aftermath, and we're also looking to see as as Washington scrambles, of course we look 4th of July is coming very soon and President Trump had set that as the date for the big beautiful bill to be passed. So we're going to be going through and trying to get a count together on this as well.
Mark Levin
Yeah. The next hour we're going to pivot and start doing huge Supreme Court ruling on guess what? Wait for it. Deportations. Remember that on the main battlefront here in the United States. Jack Posobic, you're an officer and a gentleman, sir. Thank you so much for taking another hour away from your time to join us today.
Jack Posobiec
God bless. Thank you, Steve.
Unknown Speaker
Thank you.
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Podcast Summary: "Warmongers Beg For More Conflict In The Middle East" (Episode 4581)
Host: Stephen K. Bannon, WarRoom.org
Release Date: June 24, 2025
In Episode 4581 of Bannon's War Room, Stephen K. Bannon delves into the escalating tensions in the Middle East, specifically focusing on the aftermath of Operation Midnight Hammer and the ensuing conflict involving Iran, Israel, and the United States. The episode features insights from political figures, military experts, and commentators, providing a comprehensive analysis of the current geopolitical landscape.
Steve Bannon opens the discussion by critiquing the necessity of Operation Midnight Hammer, implying that the Israeli forces were sufficiently capable of addressing Iran's nuclear capabilities without direct U.S. involvement.
"Operation Midnight Hammer was not needed, that the Israelis could definitely have taken down the nuclear capability, Iranians by themselves, and we did not need to get involved and cross this threshold."
[00:00]
Bannon emphasizes the long-term threat posed by Iran, highlighting the nation's substantial population and potential for sustained fanaticism against the United States.
Anderson Cooper concurs with the assessment that Iran remains a significant threat despite recent setbacks.
"Iran's in this for the long game... There’s lots that they could potentially do to us in the United States."
[00:00]
Bannon further elaborates on Iran's strategic positioning, suggesting that while immediate crises may subside, the underlying threat persists.
Lindsey Graham provides a critical perspective on the U.S. intelligence and response strategy regarding Iran's missile attacks.
"What we appear to at least be talking about is the US was aware that Iran was going to launch these missiles at the US Base in Qatar... Where does it put President Trump?"
[02:12]
Graham questions the decision-making process behind not striking preemptively and its implications for future U.S. and global security.
Tulsi Gabbard adds to the conversation by analyzing President Trump's reliance on specific intelligence assessments and political advisories.
"He was relying on assessments that were more pessimistic... and he also relied on Benjamin Netanyahu... That's pretty personal for Donald Trump."
[05:11]
Gabbard underscores the complexities of political influences on military decisions and their long-term consequences.
Brian Hook discusses the success and limitations of recent military operations against Iran's nuclear infrastructure.
"We did the operation 48 hours ago. We now have Iran's response. I think this is about as good as you could hope for in terms of a response."
[05:11]
Hook asserts that while the operation has significantly weakened Iran's nuclear capabilities, it doesn't entirely eliminate the nation's intent to pursue nuclear weapons.
He continues:
"The mission is let's make sure Iran's nuclear program cannot be restored. If there is material diverted, that has to be accounted for."
[05:11]
Jack Posobiec provides a historical overview, tracing the roots of current tensions back to the 1950s.
"Operation Ajax... overthrew the democratic prime minister of Iran, Mosaddegh, and reinstalled the Shah... That's what made the Iranians so mad they turned to a nut job."
[14:38]
Posobiec argues that past U.S. interventions have fostered long-standing resentment and instability in Iran, contributing to the current adversarial stance.
The discussion highlights Israel's central role in countering Iranian aggression. Posobiec emphasizes Israel's right and capability to defend itself without direct U.S. military involvement.
"If they're going to continue to go at it, that's in Israel's prerogative. That is their right to fight. They have a right to self-defense just the same way any nation has a right to their self-defense."
[37:00]
Levin and Posobiec further discuss Israel's military prowess and strategic decisions to target Iranian infrastructure and leadership.
Mark Levin and Jack Posobiec engage in a dynamic exchange critiquing U.S. political figures advocating for increased military involvement.
Levin challenges positions advocating for continued U.S. intervention, while Posobiec defends the current approach and criticizes lawmakers pushing for regime change.
"Lindsey Graham knows exactly what he's doing. He is paid to do this... The same way Lindsey Graham destroyed our chances in the midterms of '22."
[36:35]
The conversation underscores internal political conflicts regarding the appropriate level of U.S. involvement in the Middle East.
Bannon and his guests discuss the broader implications of recent events, including potential shifts in global alliances and the economic impacts of actions like the BRICS summit aimed at displacing the U.S. dollar.
"As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US Dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollar and your savings."
[44:08]
This segment highlights concerns about global economic stability and the strategic maneuvers of emerging superpowers.
Stephen K. Bannon wraps up the episode by reinforcing the importance of supporting Israel's right to defend itself and the need for strategic restraint from the United States to prevent further escalation.
"If you don't have the right commander in chief, nothing happens. We got the right commander in chief married up with the strongest military in history, which will make us safer."
[16:41]
The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to stay informed and support policies that ensure U.S. and allied national security interests are upheld without unnecessary entanglements.
Steve Bannon (00:00): "Operation Midnight Hammer was not needed... we did not need to get involved and cross this threshold."
Lindsey Graham (02:12): "What we have here is a US adversary making clear that they are going to launch weapons against the U.S."
Tulsi Gabbard (05:11): "He was relying on assessments that were more pessimistic... When he ordered the strike in 2020 that killed the IRCG's leading general, when that happened with Soleimani, the revenge plan for Iran was born."
Jack Posobiec (14:38): "Operation Ajax... reinstalled the Shah... That's what made the Iranians so mad they turned to a nut job."
Brian Hook (05:11): "The mission is let's make sure Iran's nuclear program cannot be restored."
Mark Levin (36:35): "Lindsey Graham knows exactly what he's doing. He is paid to do this."
Jack Posobiec (37:00): "If they're going to continue to go at it, that's in Israel's prerogative... they have a right to self-defense."
Episode 4581 of Bannon's War Room offers a robust discussion on the complex interplay between military actions, political decisions, and historical contexts shaping the current Middle Eastern conflicts. The panelists advocate for a measured approach that emphasizes strategic support for allies like Israel while warning against unnecessary escalations that could entangle the United States in prolonged conflicts. The episode underscores the enduring challenges posed by Iran's regional ambitions and nuclear aspirations, advocating for informed and decisive leadership to navigate these turbulent times.