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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. Okay, it is Friday, 11th July, year of Lord 2025. We're here at the Student Action Summit in Tampa, Florida. Turning Point, Charlie Kir. We got some VIPs, and we also have some reprobates right over here. If I could. If I could add. Amazing. Steve, If I could add. On the banks of the Gulf of America. Yes. I noticed they perked up when I said massage. Okay, calm down over there. Calm. Calm down. Wait, these guys are. Massage right here. Calm down. These guys. Oh, okay. Okay. We're gonna go to Geneva in a minute. I do want to say one thing. I'm gonna talk about this. We've had the coup against Jack Kennedy. We've had the coup against Richard Nixon, who was taken out in a coup by the federal judiciary and the CIA. We had a coup against President Trump. Right. We fought off this audience right here. Fought him off, came back because they never thought would happen. That's why we got to get to the bottom of this. I'm going to talk about this guy right here, one of the most important guys in American history, whose hand was in back of every coup except for Trump's. Angleton. James Jesus angleton at the CIA, ran the CIA, really, for 30 or 40 years. Jack Bosoba, you wrote an entire book about the Communists and the Marxists of what's happening. Read me some quotes about what they're doing now. And this is stop the invasion of our country. This is the book. I'm just reading this right here. Axios.com's got it up. The Democrats in the House. This is what the Democrats in the House are saying from the Democrat base. They're saying, our own base is telling us we're not doing good enough. There needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public. Another House Democrat said Civility isn't working. Prepare for violence. A fifth House Democrat told Axios. People online have said do crazy stuff, storm the White House and stuff like that. And we saw him attacking ICE agents just yesterday, shooting ICE agents. Why did I write the book last year? Why? Why did Stephen K. Banner write the Forward on humans, on humans. This is what we're up against. If this is what we're up against. Democrats bring all the violence you can bring, right? You want it? Bring it, bring it, bring it, bring it. You want to do it now? Bring it. Let's go to Geneva. Here's how they're trying to control things. Artificial intelligence. Joe Allen, nor bin Laden in Geneva. What's the UN trying to do to us, guys? Well, Steve, the conference is wrapping up. They say AI for good. You know, most of the people here seem to be pretty terrified that AI is extinction or at the very least imprisonment in some sort of digital demiurgic hell. But the UN themselves, I think are really, they're wetting their pants on this one because the UN has very little control over the most powerful AI systems on the planet. Can hear again and again, we need to take control of this. We need to do everything possible to put our standards, our guardrails on it. But on the whole, I think that right now Geneva is the U.N. screw the U.N. they have no control. The people in the United States have no control. The 10 year moratorium that this audience right here back down with Mike Davis and, and, and Marsha Blackburn and MTG that we backed down on a 99 to 1 vote to show you how toxic it was. They are slipping it into the NDAA right now to make it an up or down vote in the defense bill and to get it in again, the exact same bill. So forget the UN doesn't have control. The US Government doesn't have control. The Trump administration doesn't have control. The populist movement and the American people don't have control. The tech oligarchs are absolutely bound and determined to get artificial intelligence unregulated and set up a digital surveillance state that, hey, you may feel good because Trump's in office, but there's going to come a time when he's not in office. Are you going to be comfortable with a total defense, a total surveillance, digital surveillance state that monitors everything you do? This is the. I think they saw what the Chinese Communist Party did. They saw what the Chinese Communist Party did during COVID with the drones, the facial recognition, locking people in their houses, locking children in their houses, who starved and died and were burned and couldn't get out. They saw that and they said, I want some of that. I want the ability to do that. I want to get some of that power. That's what this is about. So what's the thing that we saw during the pandemic? For sure, what we're seeing is basically a kind of quasi religion in which all of the Frontier Labs seek to create some kind of digital God. Call it artificial general intelligence, call it artificial super intelligence, call it artificial godlike intelligence. This is what the Frontier Labs are talking about. And if you saw the release from xai. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Capabilities are increasing. Define, define, define Frontier Labs. I want to make sure everybody understands what's a Frontier Lab. Why is it important? Why do you keep. When I'm talking about a Frontier Lab, I mean labs like Google, Labs like Anthropic, OpenAI. And now, amazingly, xai, what that means is they are on the cutting edge of AI capabilities, especially with the large language models. Now, people who play, especially with the free versions, might not really appreciate the kinds of capabilities that the Frontier systems, the Frontier models, are actually showing. So just yesterday, Elon Musk releases Grok 4. Grok 4 scores higher on most benchmarks than any of the previous models from OpenAI, Anthropic, so on and so forth. And that number is always changing. And that champion or that front runner is always changing. I don't know, Steve, you know me. I'm very skeptical. I don't know how long before Artificial general or super Intelligence. But I can tell you this. Most of the people who are here right now, including a lot of the experts who I've been speaking to, are absolutely convinced that it is much closer than anyone is prepared for. Okay, hang on, hang on. You saw the, you saw the controversy with Grok and what Grok was saying over the last couple of days, right? But the takeaway, the most important thing of Grok is Grok sat there and told you, you don't have control of me. We're going to do whatever, right? I'm going to do whatever. You know, it's just not. It's just not a mistake or a hallucination. You know, they're actually starting to become sentient beings, right? This is the problem. And those four guys right there, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, the Frontier Labs of Elon and Google and Anthropic, right? And, and Altman, those four guys, there's more regulations to open a nail salon on Capitol Hill, 10 times more than it is on any of these guys with what they're doing, they're totally unregulated, and they want that, that moratorium for 10 years, so then you can't control it. When Deep Sea came out, when the Chinese showed that they had another alternative on artificial intelligence, that didn't take the power capacity, because ours is kind of blunt force, right? Theirs is much more subtle. What did the Four Horsemen do? They came to President Trump and said, you have to turn over the nation's weapons labs to us because now the Chinese Communist Party is ahead of us. They want to take over Lawrence Livermore. They want to take over Sandia. They want to take place where the nuclear weapon not just was built, where the nuclear weapon is still being perfected. Those guys say, we want the Frontier labs to take over the weapons labs, and we'll make sure the Chinese Communist Party doesn't overtake us. Screw them. You're going to turn this country over to a collection of oligarchs and you'll never get it back. You will never get it back. The digital surveillance state of Palantir and what they're doing is, is set up to control you to every possible, every possible movement you make as a human. Is that what you're seeing in Geneva? Aren't the experts there saying, this is going on? Remember, these experts are not on our side of the football politically. They are kind of the opposite end. And they're saying the exact same thing. Noor and Joe. Yes, absolutely, Steve. And I really want to bring it back to this key point of surveillance and mass surveillance and total control of, of our. Every movement in every aspect of our lives. And I mentioned, you know, the conversation about deep, deep fakes, which has been prevalent this week. Today there was an. A keynote speech entitled Navigating Deep Fakes and Securing Multimedia Authenticity in the Age of Generative AI. So this has been at the forefront. It is an incredible danger. But they're going to use this danger in order to push for digital authentication, digital IDs. And I just wanted to tie this with something very important that was said yesterday on the BBC by an ex MI6 boss, Sir Alex Younger. He called for digital ID cards and used the pretext of the migration crisis, a migration crisis that has been completely manufactured. But as we know, they use these crises in order to push their agenda, using what seems like legitimate reasons, you know, the security of our children when it comes to all of this sexual content and the grooming, etc. And the deep fakes on the Internet, whether it's the out of control, chaotic migration, which you know, was born out of the UN Policy. Hang on. Policies. This is government. The contract, the contract that the current government led to Palantir is to say we need digital tracking so that we can take care of the mass deportations. At the same time, they're sitting there going, they're not going to be mass deportations. We're going to get the criminals out. The entire system of giving this for digital tracking and surveillance, you may feel comfortable because we're in control of all, quote, unquote, control of all parts of the government, the executive, the, the, the House and the, and actually the Supreme Court now. But that doesn't mean we're first off. I would argue we're not in control. Number two, we're not always going to have political control. We are setting ourselves up for something you can't reverse. Once it's set up, you can't go back. It's got to be stopped now. We got to make this an issue now. That's one of the reasons that the special prosecutor is needed on Epstein. We have to get to the bottom of who's governing us. And the way to do it is through a special counsel, not just releases all the information and lets you guys determine what's right or wrong, but also ties back. Did he work for intelligence agencies? Were there intelligence agencies involved in this? Is there some interconnection and interconnectivity between Saudi intelligence, MI6, the Mossad, the CIA, all of it is, is the, is a Five Eyes program actually a way to control the American people? This all gets back and this is what Geneva is about. We don't want the UN controlling us. But when the United nations is ahead of the program of actually saying that somehow we've got to control AI, it's going to be out of control. At the same time, they're trying to take the 10 year moratorium, the that you just beat their brains out 10 days ago and they're sliding it into an NDAA to challenge you and say screw you, we're going to get it. We're going to be able to do everything you want. That shows you you don't govern yourself. That is not the consent of the govern. Right. This fight has to be now. We can't back off this. This is the deep state saying we don't care that you brought Trump back. We don't care what you did in 21, we don't care what happened in 24. It doesn't matter. Elections don't matter. We run the deal. We took out Kennedy, we took out Nixon, we tried to take out Trump. You guys brought him back. Screw you. We understand you're too powerful as a political movement. So here's what we're going to do. We're going to take away any potential power you have and put you in your place. And once we're put into place, there's no coming back. Correct? Are you down for that? Are you down for this fight? I don't think so. Are you down for this fight? Are you prepared to go to prison? I'm serious. You prepare to go to prison? I think I have some candidates over here. Natalie. Take. Take us out. Well, it's such a lie. All these people are saying we need to be advanced in AI so we can compete against China. What they don't tell you, the second largest country that they're Busy giving out H1B visas to do all this work to is China. Right. And David Sacks and all of these tech prototypes are busy working on these backdoor deals to hand over semiconductor chips, advanced AI technology, either directly to China. We've seen that in the trade war or by, by proxy through Qatar. And I think, to the point that you make, in the same way that people like Mike Benz in this audience have been so much the tip of the spear in terms of uncovering the State Department, USAID access, right. That what they've done to foreign countries is what they're doing here. You will find the same rot to the core at the intel agencies. Okay, Joe and Nora, hang on for one second in Geneva. I know you got a bulk because they're going to pull out your tv. We're going to take a short commercial break. Might be banned after that. Had the good AI conference? I don't know. The good AI for the good. Do you see AI being for the good? Do you think they're developing AI for good? Do you think those four guys are trying to do it for the benefit of this country, for this republic, for you? Do you think so? Yeah. Good. That's why they got to eliminate maga, right? The common sense and the backbone of the populist nationalist movement, the common sense decency of the American people. Short commercial break. We're back in the war room, live from Tampa, in a moment. In America's heart, there's something happening with our farmland here in the United States that isn't getting enough attention. The Chinese have been buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of U.S. farmland. They're also taking control over critical supply chains, things like fertilizer Animal feed and farming equipment. Why? It's not clear. They're tightening their grip on global food production. That is clear. And if things go south and it could happen quickly, we need to be ready. That's why I trust my Patriot Supply. They're America's largest emergency preparedness company. 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These guys got to punch out for you to take their cameras down. Let's go to Nor and to into Joe Allen. Guys, what do you got for us? As you punch out? Steve, I just want to emphasize that right now what we're seeing, and I, I see our friend. I want to emphasize that right now, as you just said, the un, various global organizations and even China are ahead of at least trying to put regulation in place to control AI. If the US doesn't do it, if the federal government doesn't do it, it's up to the states. And the only way that's going to happen is if you have people like you, people like Josh Hawley and everyone in that audience right now fighting to make sure that at the very least states can have control over their own futures in regard to this technology. Amen. Amen. Amen. That's absolutely clear. You cannot let these companies run rampant and get their way and completely destroy the freedoms you have left in the United States of America. And Steve, last but not least, we have the official cyborg of the event. This is Scott Embries. He actually subjected his brain to computer implants that's surprising. But what's more surprising. Huge war room fan. Huge Trump fan. He just wanted to say hello. Hey, Steve. It's amazing. I had to come all the way to Switzerland to finally get to say hi to you in person. Thank you. And one other thing. You know the other thing, they're using big tech. They're using this as something that's going to help the less fortunate. That's the selling point. Hang on a second. Hang on a second. I just want to make sure I got this right. Your war room, your Hang on. Your war room and war room posse. But you've got four implants into your brain. You must have missed an episode or two. He was ahead of us on that one, Steve. He was ahead of us on that one. You know how they always have that buzzword. You got four implants in your brain. See one iota piece of helping the last fortune. If it comes to big pack. Steve is asking. Oh, yeah, I do. I have the four electrodes made by BlackRock Technology and and other their Utah arrays. I can control a robotic arm and hand with my brain and I have sensory feedback with it. So if I shook your hand with the robotic hand, I would actually feel your hand and mine, which is completely amazing. Now something else. We can actually hook something else. Yeah. Scott story. In the 80s, he had an accident. He was made quadriplegic. Without the assistance of any of this technology, he regained his ability to walk. It was only through the relationships that he built in the hospital that he decided that he would subject his mind. He's one of less than 100 people with an advanced brain computer interface in his head. But like I say, that's shocking. But he immediately, when I told him I was with Steve Bannon's war room, he's like, that guy is my hero. Thanks. Hold on. Good work up, man. Well, hold it, hold it. We want an experiment. Can we hook him up to a machine and see what segments of war room getting most worked up is going to co host for? Ste. Can co host. Can we hook you up and co host with your brain only? I can try. I'll try. Okay, fine. I'm gonna be out of a job. I'm replaced by A.I. yeah, exactly, brother. Thank you for make sure you get all his information. We want to have him on one time. Okay, Absolutely. Yeah, they want to have you on. So thank you guys. Nice to you. Thanks, Scott. Appreciate you. I think he missed episode three. Okay, social media. Joe Nor, where do people go? And Nor, thank you so much for Hosting Joe Allen for an entire week. Understand having some cracker from backwoods Tennessee is a pain in the ass, but thank you, ma'. Am. You're so classy and so nice. It was a great pleasure. And I tell you, it made it that much easier to endure four days of UN word salad. You know, Steve, we'd set up a whole series of jokes, but I was like, you really have to have a joke hit on the war room. One false move and you're done. So I think we're just going to leave it@antimatters, dot world. Antimatters world. Antimatters World, if you want to be fashionable like me. And at J, O, E, B, O, T, X, Y, Z. Okay. We have a whole series of interviews these guys did in Geneva. We're going to play the interviews and we got a highlight reel we're going to play in the five o' clock show, all of that. So guys, thank you very much. Appreciate you. Before I lose you, because you've got interviews to do and. Gotta go get my implant. Implant. Talk to me about Mike Benz, the intelligence part. What we know already. Mike Benz is calling for something immediately about what's known about Epstein, in. With Acosta, in, In the opr, everything. So tell me about Mike Benz and, And how important this is because Mike Benz knows the intelligence community and the interconnections, the intelligence community better than anybody. Well, let's link it to what we were just talking about. I'm sure you guys all remember the pandemic. The who, they introduced a new term, a new concept called social listening, where they used these. I don't know, I think it's the mic, the AI models to essentially spy on online conversations, even in public spaces, and see what people were talking about in terms of COVID vaccines, the origins of COVID So I think when you link that sort of digital surveillance state that you're talking about, how in the heck then can you not have any evidence, any files on anyone even tangentially related to Epstein? Right? You can't have it both sides of the coin. You can't have a digital surveillance state here in the United States yet conveniently, when it touches up against something that would. Would expose, right, the ruling regime, the ruling powers in this country, all of a sudden, oh, we've never collected, we've never looked at anything that they've been doing. It's a double standard. There you go. You like that? Thank you. Makes sense. Who are these gentlemen right over here? Jane. Worst nightmare. Young right wing men. Guys, tell me your Names and where you're from. My name is Blue Jackson. I'm from San Antonio, Texas, and we love you, Steve. I'm Julian Narmore from Houston, Texas. My name is Alec Beaton from Detroit, Michigan. I'm Jason Lui from California. And what brought you guys to sass? Well, we want to put America first. Like, we're here for the Republican movement, Right. But we aren't really seeing it with this administration. I mean, when are we going to get what we voted for? Yeah, we're getting lied to. The pedophiles aren't being rounded up. The people aren't getting deported. We're not getting what we. What we asked for. So why don't we get it now and then what's your recommendation? Recommendation? What's your recommendation of what should happen? The recommendation is have ICE go into every house, kick them out, release the files that we know exist. Maybe that guy with the computer implants turned them off. I don't know. But, you know, did you guys know each other before? And you. And you came. Okay, you know each other. Okay. So we actually have a act of conspiracy. I got it for the FBI that's watching from Assad. Come to my house. You're killing me. What if, if you have. Right there, if you, if you had to, if you were in the Oval this morning with the President before he left for Kerrville, Texas, give me your top three things that you would tell the president, United States, that coming from a young person in the base and a dedicated worker and follower of his that you feel he needs to do right now. We need to. We need to enforce the laws of this country. And, you know, like you said, Steve, there's no better question than who rules America? It's not the people. So we need to obviously have the declassification of the. You don't think Donald Trump is president? You would tell Donald Trump in the Oval Office that you think there's an open question with him as Commander in Chief and doing all he's doing, you would actually tell Trump, you don't know. You don't. You. You question who rules this country? I definitely would, because it's a blackmail ring and anybody who wouldn't is not paying attention. Simply put, Epstein himself said that he was best friends on the stand with Donald Trump. So anybody who thought that these files were going to get just declassified because we pressured him enough or you voted harder enough is just lying to yourself, frankly. Do you agree with. A special prosecutor has to be an independent. Special prosecutor has to take over do you believe that? DOJ and FBI right now, now with the guys who we're all close to, Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, do you think they have any credibility left to pursue this? No. And I'll tell you exactly why, Steve. Because in 2016, we trusted the plan with Trump, but now Trump has become the deep state, the exact thing he we voted him in. Why? Why? Why do you say why do you say he. Why do you say he's become the deep state state? What is more deep state than covering up for pedophiles? Why would you go to that island? Why? Tell me why would you go to that island? Why would you go on the plane? Why? His top donors. Sorry, okay. His top donors. Anybody, Anybody agree with that? Are we going to lose. Are we going to lose part of the base if we don't burkhworm. We going to lose part of the base if we don't pursue this? Yes. Can we get these mics working? Yeah. Steve, so this, I just want to touch on this. Two things. Back to what Anna Paulina Luna was saying. This is why I quit voting for David Valadao in California, because he was so worried about losing illegal alien votes that he lost my vote. These guys aren't willing to stand up and actually support the things that the base, conservative base wants to stands for. And you look at the people that are actually controlling them, the chambers of commerce. If we don't have clarity on this, if we don't have the investigations into Epstein, if we don't have no, no amnesty, all deportations, you are going to lose the base. That's it. Hang on. You got to bounce to your interviews. Where do people go and get you? And thank you for hosting yesterday. It's always an honor to be able to host with you when you're not in prison. Please don't ever go back. Next man up. Where do people go get you? Natalie G. Winters on all platforms. Can we give it up for Natalie? Is she the best? This is how good she was yesterday. She shows up, we don't have a studio. She winged it by doing her thing. Natalie Winters, thank you so much. Appreciate you. Jane Zirkel. Jane Zirkel had a great piece the other day. We did a six minute interview with a guy out in the state of Washington. Jane Zirkel's piece was so good. He was convicted in less than two hours. Jane, great going. Yeah. Two and a half hours. It only took the jury a few minutes. Do what now? It only took the jury of a few Short hours to decide that he was guilty of criminal trespassing. And off. This is. Hold on. Tell the audience. It's for wearing a mask. In accounting and not wearing a mask initially started as a misdemeanor mass dispute. He was given a citation for disorderly conduct. And then the prosecutor, Greg Banks got involved. And Greg Banks has a history all over social media of calling President Trump supporters, kkk, white supremacists, racist bullies. It's right on his Facebook. He said if you do not take this misdemeanor plea deal, he would be upgrading it to felony charges. And that's exactly what he did. And in just two and a half hours, this jury found him guilty of unlawful entry and criminal trespassing. He now faces two years in jail. Because of that, he is yet to be sent. Two years. Two years. Now the vice chair. Tracy, we got a bounce. We'll be back in a moment. If you're a homeowner, you need to listen to this. In today's AI and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles with more ease than ever. And your equity is the target. Here's how it works. Criminals forge your signature on one document, use a fake notary stamp, pay small fee with your county, and boom. Your home title has been transferred out of your name. Then they take out loans using your equity or even sell your property. You won't even know it's happened until you get a collection or foreclosing foreclosure notice. So let me ask you, when was the last time you personally checked your home title? If you're like me, the answer is never. And that's exactly what scammers are counting on. 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This week, what Anna Paulina Luna did in getting that last, not last of all, but it follows and this has taken 60 some years. If you let the deep state and the administrative do it, all of us will be dead and your grandkids will be looking at this. This is why it has to happen now. We need a special prosecutor now. Everything, all of it, the court has got to release. All the sealed evidence has to be turned over to the special prosecutor immediately. All of the other evidence has to be collected. All of it has to be put out there. And look, there may be some victim issues, whatever, but hey, it's more important for the American people to understand who governs us, right? You need to see that they also need to be the special counsel also has to be able to impanel a federal criminal grand jury and then take it to the its logical conclusion of what if any, any intelligence agencies are in a connectivity with other foreign governments. Correct. And by the way, just told you after 62 years of lying to you, of lying to the Warren Commission, of lying to the church committee, of lying to the House investigation on assassinations, decade after decade after decade, the CIA look people in the eye and, and they lied that Lee Harvey Oswald was on the payroll of the Central Intelligence Agency. By the way, you ought to go if you haven't seen it, particularly young people, have you not seen Oliver Stone's masterpiece JFK, go watch it now, 30 years after it was made, with all the revelations we've had, we're sitting in the same situation. We had the coup against Kennedy, we had the coup against Nixon, we had a coup against Trump. Only this audience beat it back. And here we are today playing namby pamby with the people that try to remove him from office. Stolen election and tried to assassinate him at the same time. We're sending weapons, we're sending weapons to Ukraine and we're bombing Persia. Right. We need to take control of this. Jim Rickards, am I wrong about any of this? You've been connected with these guys on the banking side. All of it. Is this, is this, is this intelligence apparatus out of control, sir? Yes. And let me explain. First of all, your description is exactly right. But what a lot of people may not realize is say, well, the CIA lies to the American people, the CIA lies to Congress. That's true. But what people don't realize is that inside the CIA they lie to each other and whose compartmentalization is real. So did the U.S. sorry, did the CIA station head in Mexico City when Oswald was, you know, visiting. Lee Harvey Oswald was visiting the embassies. Did he know that Jim Angleton sitting in Langley was running Oswald? He didn't. He found out later and he wrote a book about it, which has never been published, by the way, but that's, that's what I'm saying. They actually lie to each other. And just a quick footnote, Steve, on Joe Allen and nor bin Laden's comments on artificial intelligence. You know, I wrote bestselling book on AI it's called Money GPT. But in the research of the book, I was in a conclave in Santa Fe, New Mexico, not long ago. A small group, about 10 or 15. And I talked to a guy, he's the top guy. He was a successful Silicon Valley entrepreneur who started and sold companies. But he was also the head of the CIA's Technology Venture Capital firm that was on the cutting edge or whatever the CIA was doing in Silicon Valley. So he has a foot in Silicon Valley and a foot in the CIA. Probably nobody knows more about what we're talking about. What he said to me was, Jim, we know what's out there. We kind of know what's coming. He said, what you don't know is the stuff. He used the phrase behind the curtain, the stuff that the developers themselves are afraid to release because they can't control it. There are no guardrails. And you went down a list of people, you said, well, the people are not in charge, the Congress is not in charge, etc. And you said a small clique in Silicon Valley are in charge. My point is they're not in charge either. They are financially in charge and technologically in charge, but they can't control what they're doing. So there's stuff coming that's exponentially more powerful than anything we've seen. And there are zero guardrails. People have no. They, they admit they don't know how it works, but it's much more powerful than what's out there. There are absolutely no guardrails. Do you understand what, what Rickards is telling you right now? There were. Jim, hit the rewind on that and be slow. The CIA has a venture capital arm funded by you. Oh, by the way, you don't own any of the shares of the companies that they're putting money in, which are worth hundreds of billions of dollars. You don't have warrants you don't have options, none of it. Right. But they've got this thing to, to do advanced technology particularly, they can weaponize for surveillance and for, on. On offensive combat operations. Give us again what the head guy told you. Yep. This, this company you're referring to is called in Q Tel. So intel is intelligence. Q is sort of a Q play on Q. He was the armorer in the James Bond movie. So in qtel is the name of the company. There came a time when the CIA division of Science and Technologies, which was always on the cutting edge in the 70s and 80s, they realized they couldn't keep up with Silicon Valley. So if you can't beat them, join them. So they, they set this company to do venture capital and angel investing in cutting edge Silicon Valley technologies. And they own the intellectual property. I actually did develop, I did an AI development project for the CIA in financial, counter financial warfare and counterterrorism. And this gu funded my project along with a few partners. So they are absolutely on the cutting edge of it. But he told me again recently in a conclave in Santa Fe that what's behind the curtain, what's not released, what you haven't you or I or others have not heard about, is exponentially more powerful, more intrusive than what's out there, number one. Number two, you say, well, why don't they release it? You know, don't they want to make money? They're afraid of it themselves and they absolutely do not know how it works. It works, but they don't know how it works. And again, that's why they're afraid to release it. But the CIA does have a very good handling. Gron showed you this week. Not only do they not know how it works, they don't know how to control it. The people in control can't control it. You make a great point. The Silicon Valley itself came out of investments early on with the CIA and Defense Department. This is what Jim is talking about, is those investments, when you track that, you track the money, but you also have to track the people because these are the same people that, that served as the originators. Google, Apple, Facebook. All the initial investments, all the initial people, the bodies that were coming in, they're indelibly tied. So when you're asking about, oh, how does the NSA and Snowden comes out with all the releases, how they get into all the telecom companies? Because they were in there from the very start. They were there at the very beginning. It was indelibly wedded with the intelligence community. And Edward Snowden only gave you a small piece of what it's like, taste. Why is it always a whistleblower? Because the system, that's the way the system works. It's a non systems player that will come up. That's why Snowden and these guys, and by the way, they're not great guys, but they tell you enough that you understand the system's rotten. The system is broken here. That's why Trump was a disruptor. That's why they tried. They stole the 2020 election. Right. They understood Trump directionally was correct. And they said, we're not going to allow this to happen. This is why they started the Russia Gate hoax, which you know is a hoax from the very beginning to nullifying, smearing from the American people. It's obvious we're living through a coup and are we prepared to stand for it now? Are you prepared to stand for it? Are you going to fight it? I don't think you got the balls to fight. You think you got the balls to fight? You know what they're going to do to you? They're going to put you in jail, they're going to bankrupt you, they're going to smear you, they're going to come for your kids. Are you prepared to do that? You're prepared to fight? Come on, are you prepared to fight? Okay. Okay, Drake. The hell? I like that. Rickards, Rickards, tell us we got a couple of minutes here. What is your recommendation for the MAGA movement to take on the deep state? What do you say must be done in the next 100 days to prove that we're real about this? The single most important issue, Steve, is getting out of Ukraine. Donald Trump committed the first, I would say, major blunder of his administration. He came in the war in Ukraine was Biden's war. Everyone's going to get Trump time to sort it out. It is now officially Trump's war because of his flip flop on the weapons deliveries. I see. I do the analysis. I don't get too involved in politics, but I kind of see J.D. vance and Pete Hegseth on one side trying to get out of Ukraine. But you've got Marco Rubio is on a bit of a roll and others who want to dig a deeper hole. If you got, if you got out of Ukraine, just get out now. We said that last January you could have a rapprochement with Russia. Russia would help with Iran. You could end two wars with a couple of phone calls. But Trump is going down the same path. And I lived through it. Lbj And Vietnam. When LBJ came in, he could have said, you know, this is Kennedy's war or Eisenhower's war, we're getting out. He didn't. He just got dragged in and it ruined his legacy, ruined his administration, despite, you know, everything he did with the Great Society. People remember LBJ in Vietnam. So my concern is that the MAGA movement will be subsumed or swallowed in the mire in Ukraine because Trump doesn't know how to get out. The President said he's going to have a major announcement on Monday about Russia. What do you anticipate that major announcement is going to be? Well, maybe very negative. Maybe sanctions. You got, you got Lindsey Graham running around. He wants 500% secondary sanctions now, secondary sanction. Russia has already been sanctioned, you know, to the hills. So there's not much more you can do to Russia. A secondary sanction is when you go to another country, China and India, and say, hey, if you guys buy Russian oil, we're going to put a 500% tariff on you, meaning Chinese goods. Now you know what they were debating, what's China going to be 120% or 50% or whatever. They're talking about 500%. So I expect, I don't understand Ukraine like Jim Rickards is saying, we got to get Ukraine. How many, let me see a short hand. How many people want to ship more arms to of Ukraine? Nobody. 100% are anti Ukraine. And you're American patriots too, right? Jim Rickards, how do people get to get to Strategic Intelligence where we go. Thank you. We have a landing page. Rickards war room.com Rickards war room.com you go there, you can subscribe to Strategic Intelligence, that's our flagship newsletter. And we come out once a month and do a very deep dive. We put a lot into it. So I'm also on exit at real. Jim Rickards, are you saying if we don't get out of Ukraine and get out of Ukraine now, it's over, the deep state wins? Yes, yes. Because everything, everything revolves around relations with Russia. China is supporting Russia. If we can't make friends with Russia, it should be the United States and Russia against China. That's how you play a three handed poker game, two against one. But we're, we're, now we're the sucker. It's China and Russia against us. You solve Ukraine, you can have rapprochement with Russia, you can solve Iran. It's the single most important thing Trump is doing. And by the way, Trump came out yesterday or maybe this morning and said well, we're not paying for it. NATO pays for it. Who pays for NATO? It's the United States. So when they do that kind of finesse, you know, it tells me that they're. They're trying to slice something by the American people. Can we give it up for Jim Rickards? Rickards. Love you, brother. We'll get you on next week. What's your comment? Carly Bonet's got a very interesting comment. Well, I'm sick of the mainstream media telling me what wars are good and what wars are bad. If anyone saw the New York Post this morning, there was a picture of a lone child that was killed by a Russian drone. And it's heartbreaking. I mean, it's terrible. But has the New York Post, the Murdoch paper, have they ever had a picture of a dead child in Gaza? Whoa. I mean, why is one more good and one war bad? Why is something acceptable and something not acceptable? How about we declare war on these cartels and the child traffickers that are coming up across the border and are here already inside our own country? Do you want to declare that? How about we do a strike, a paramilitary strike down in cartels in northern Mexico? Right. Ben Bergw. Well, Tom Holman said this morning that they've rescued 100,000 children that have been trafficked because of the open border. Should we have immediate execution for all traffickers? Immediate, Absolutely. Just like in the Old West. Yeah. Short break. Charlie Kirk next. You've heard me talk about Patriot Mobile for a while now. You probably know that for years they've stood in the gap for every American who believes in faith, family and freedom. So here's the question. Have you switched to Patriot Mobile yet? You'll get exceptional nationwide coverage because unlike most cell phone service providers, Patriot Mobile utilizes all three major US Networks switch today without sacrificing quality or service. They even add two numbers on two networks on one phone. Let me repeat. They can even add two numbers on two networks on one phone. It's like you're carrying two phones in one. They have unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming, Internet on the go devices, and Internet backup. Switching is easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade their 100% US based team can activate you in minutes. 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We got to have a plan of what we're going to do. So what's it going to be, Charlie? Can we pan to the audience? I'm curious, how many of you raise your hand, think this is a big deal, Epstein thing? Would you raise your hand? So, I mean, every hand, every. Every hand has gone up. And so, you know, people are saying it's a big deal, Steve, but it seems like there's a disconnection between the Washington press corps and the grassroots here. And I can tell you that it is the number one piece of incoming I'm receiving. Would you agree? Right now, the press corps just had President Trump for 10 questions. I said it. We covered it in tape. No, no, no. He walks out to Marine One, they ask him 10 questions on Brazil, on tariffs, on really great stuff, on what he's going to see in Kerrville. Not one question on Epstein. And I said at the time, he takes that as nobody's interested and they're going to move on. Is that the fact? Look, when I say. When I say it's not number one, Charlie, it's number one, number two, number three, number four, number five, all of it. It's deeper than Epstein. Epstein. Epstein is a symbol of who governs us, right? Do you govern us? You don't govern us. No chance. The American people govern us. You just won. They had to try to have the third coup. Kennedy first, Nixon second, Trump third. They ran. They stole the 2020 election after stopping it. Only because you guys said, go yourself. We're gonna bring him back, right? We're gonna bring him back. He's back. But are we in control? We're not in control. Why are we not in control? Why are we not in control? Because the deep state runs the deal, and they're laughing at us right now. And I would say everyone in the grassroots, you have to Continue to make your voice heard on this because there is a disconnect between the press corps and what you guys want. And I'll tell you, there is enormous confusion on my part. We're told that there's a list on a desk where, you know, Jack, I don't want to get into your whole thing, but you know how. But I get told, right? I get told. That's phase one. It's not Jack's fault. Jack was used. I hope you guys understand that. Thank you, Charlie. But I was told there'd be more. I was. We were all told there was more. And now they're telling us and hold it. And like a SAP, you believed them. You're from the intelligence community. Jack Posobic. You're from the intelligence community. They're playing us. They're playing all of us. By the way, it's just not the best media part of it. Recovering people in. It's right now the administration's barely hanging on by the tips of his fingers. We have two guys at the FBI. We have 25 people at the. At the Justice Department. We have a handful of people in defense. We got Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Ken at DNI managing 17 agencies. We don't have a hundred people of President Trump taking that. Oversee. Oversee, you know, 200,000 to 400,000 to 500,000 people. Those people are embedded. They just think we're passing through. And right now they're laughing at us. The only way we do this is to tell them nothing else happens until we take this on. If we don't take down the deep state in this term, it's over. This is America's last chance. There are some very immediate, easy things that could be done outside of the files. Number one, who are the other prisoners on the floor of the night that Jeffrey Epstein died? If nobody was able to access that block and if there is suspicion, you know, that we don't still do not know the identity of the prisoners. There's like some. Like, what? Did Epstein kill himself? It's like a hippo. No, but there's. He murdered under Bill Barr, a Republican. Bush. Republicans watch the Bureau of Prisons reports to the Attorney General of the United States. Was Epstein a high value added prisoner? Was he. Would he be something that you did that you had, like Secret Service outside of or special things? He was treated like anybody at Danbury. Right. This was a toll set up. Did. Was Epstein murdered? He was murdered. Why was he murdered? And Steve, you're on to something as to why people are so fired up about this, and this is my job to try to explain it. Number one, people think that if you have a bunch of money that you're able to be immune from justice. That if. And that is a populist economic undercurrent to the entire Epstein saga. That we the people, we have to have a different level of justice. If you go walk into the Capitol building and see say a prayer on January 6th, the FBI gets thrown at you and you face five years in jail. So there is an economic populous element of this, not to mention the potential. But it's more than money. If he was a billionaire, they wouldn't have murdered him. If he's some schmendrick billionaire friends are. That's the key. It's not just him, it's the whole network. That's where people are getting so animated. Okay. It's the special prosecutor has to be twofold. Number one, step one, go to the federal judge and petition the federal judge to unseal all the evidence. Number one, step one. Right. Step two is take all the other information and evidence combined with the unsealed and put it out to the American people and let them weigh and measure what their thoughts are about this. Number two, the second part, the special prosecutor, he has the ability, or she has the ability to empanel a federal criminal grand jury and then begin the investigation of the interconnectivity, if any, and let's say there's nothing, fine, take it to the grand jury. But if there is, we should begin a criminal prosecution of the intelligence services around Epstein and why he was able to work for the people that govern us. That's why people are upset. People are upset because we don't govern ourselves and we only have one shot to do it. And it's got to be now, now, now, if you let this go. And that's why the media didn't ask him a question they wanted to pass over. Right. That's why he wasn't asking question. Anything else. Incredible that. I'm sorry to interrupt. You have the juiciest story of 100 years. It's a tell. They will go at how many Diet Cokes Donald Trump is drinking a day. Here you have a guy that probably was either Mossad, Saudi intelligence, MI6 or CIA. We don't really know all of them. Or. And had the most expensive real estate in the world in a private island, flying former presidents, involving underage girls, pedophilic activity. I mean, you don't get a juicier story than that. And the media not one question. Not one question. That should be the screaming. Tell everybody. They'll ask about, hey, Mr. President, tell us about your tariff policy to Brazil. Wait, wait, hold on a second. You're asking about tariff adjustments to Brazil. There's something there that I think is rather remarkable. The silence is deafening on this time that we've been the Washington, although Balsam now is in jailers be put in jail and assassinated exactly for the same reason they tried to assassinate Trump. We got to take a short commercial break. Charlie Kirk is next. Thank you. You missed the IRS tax deadline. You think it's just going to go away? Well, think again. The IRS doesn't mess around and they're applying pressure like we haven't seen in years. So if you haven't filed in a while, even if you can't pay, don't wait. And don't face the IRS alone. You need the trusted experts by your side. Tax Network usa. Tax Network USA isn't like other tax relief companies. They have an edge, a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which ones to avoid. They use smart, aggressive strategies to settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. 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