
Episode 4632: Live From CERN: The Worship Of Human Data; Pushing For Answers In Butler ...
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Stephen K. Bannon
Yes, this is our June read on cpi, the Consumer Price Inflationary guide. And it is a little warmer than expected on year over year. But headline looks good. Up 310 as expected. That does follow up 1 10. Up 310 will be the second warmest of the year. January was the warmest at up half 1%. This is as expected, but 210 hotter than the rearview mirror. If we strip out food and energy comes in a tenth cooler than expectations. Up 210 we were expecting up 3 and the rearview mirror was up 1 10. Up 210 equals where we were in April. To find a higher number, you're going once again back to January, the high watermark for the year. Up 4 10. Now let's go year over year, year over year headline. This doesn't include, this includes food and energy is up 2.7. That's 110 hotter than we are expecting. It's 310 hotter than our last look at 2.4. And how does it come? 2.7 will be the highest rate since January. February. February was 2.8. January is 3.0. So even though it's less than it was at the beginning of the year, it did warm up just a bit. And finally, if we go year over year ex food and energy, arguably in my opinion one of the most important numbers, it comes in at 2.9 exactly as expected. But it is 110 hotter than the rear view mirror which was 2.8, 2.9. Well, it would be the warmest read since February. Once again you had January and February 3.3 and 3.1 respectively. So even though we have made progress from the beginning of the year when numbers were higher, we do see a little bump on the year over year. Maybe the best news is the monthly core number up 2 10. It certainly seems though the market was expecting this or worse because interest rates initially moved lower. We're basically unchanged pre number 10. Year note now hovering at 440 actually is less. We're around 441. 442 before the number. If you look at what's going on with the yield curve, we see that the short rates are virtually unchanged. Long rates are moving down a little more aggressively. And that would make sense if the inflation data is less than the worst case scenario, the long end reflecting that. And of course we want to pay very close attention to the yield curve at this point because it really has been about whether it's steepening or flattening. A lot has to do with the short maturities and how they relate to relate to The Fed, obviously we're not going to get a July rate cut at least deemed by market activity and most economists and analysts. So we want to watch the complexion of the curve. I would say that use 50 basis points as your guide on the difference between tens and twos.
Mike Benz
I will create or cost jobs.
Joe Scarborough
And Mike, you found it depends on who you ask. Well, that's right. Meek and Joan there from Jensen Huang, you were hearing the bull case on AI jobs. And for your viewers, just to pull back the camera, this is one of the most consequential debates of our time. We've seen it playing out here on Morning Joe on Axios. And these changes are going to affect every town in America, every employer in America and then therefore every employee in America. So I spent an hour with Jensen Huang when he was here in D.C. meeting with President Trump. And by the way, breaking news. Nvidia is lifting the whole stock market around the world this year. This this morning based on the news last night that they've gotten assurances from the Trump admin that they're going to be able to sell their chips into China. They say they hope to start delivering those soon. So a big news and big deliverable from Jensen Huang's trip to D.C. but we talked to him about what is going to be doing to jobs. And here on Morning Joe your viewers heard or Dario Amade, the CEO of Anthropic, one of the biggest companies make Claude him saying that we need to be pragmatic, clear eyed about the fact that ultimately there may be more jobs but in the interim a real disruption. Him saying that unemployment could go to 20% among entry level white collar jobs, half of entry level white collar jobs will go away. And what he's been saying is that policymakers, employers are just closing their eyes to this sugar coating it, not facing what's going to happen. Jensen Wong, the other side of the debate, taking the bull case, saying as you saw in that clip, that yes, everyone's job is going to change but it's going to make us more productive. So the case he makes is that if we never changed what we did, if we never had any new ideas, if we never did anything new, that that other case would be right. And he says that AI companies are trying to scare us. I put one of the toughest cases to him. I asked him what about a long haul trucker? If I'm a long haul trucker, I'm screwed, right? Because there's going to be autonomous technology for that will do my work. What he said is like maybe they don't like that job. Maybe they would rather be a short haul trucker who's home with their family at night and the AI does the driving in between. And so the bottom line of this is that the models are becoming more capable faster than employers government are dealing with it.
Mike Benz
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Nor bin Laden
Pray for our enemies because we're going.
Mike Benz
Medieval on these people.
Nor bin Laden
Prisoners not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything.
Mike Benz
In the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Daria Amade
And where do people like that go.
Mike Benz
To share the big lie?
Daria Amade
MAGA Media I wish in my soul.
Mike Benz
I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Nor bin Laden
Ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose?
Mike Benz
If that answer is to save my.
Nor bin Laden
Country, this country will be saved.
Mike Benz
War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band. It's Tuesday the 15th of July, year of our Lord 2025. The President's going to go and we may dip in and out of this. Dave McCormick just opened up the Pittsburgh Energy and Innovation Summit. It is about investments in energy data centers for artificial intelligence. Also a lot of artificial intelligence investments. Thank Dave McCormick started off with talking about $80 billion of investments coming in generally. I think the Pittsburgh and Western Pennsylvania area on this topic will grab the President's going to speak I think around 2 o' clock in a in a roundtable. Rilla Merckx voice will cover this nonstop. Also 11 o' clock the press conference with the Andy Biggs is going to tee it up with the parents demanding justice. We've also got Josh Hawley here. There's a big hang up on the the President's right now the President's rescission bill Josh Charlie is also here for a number of the topics. MTG the Rules Committee last night did not vote out this amendment to have Congress demand the release or Congress start to release information they've got or information that is available or demand Justice Department do it. On the Epstein situation that did not get to the floor although I think Ralph Norman voted for it. It didn't pass the Rules Committee didn't come out. MTG's also I think her amendment on Ukraine did not come out. Very good news. Core inflation out today. It looks like all the all as we kept telling you all the panic of tariffs at least hasn't hit to date hasn't been picked up to date. At the same time we have over $100 billion of tariff revenue that's into the, into the Treasury. Big news there they talked about was Nvidia. And I think this is part of the deal. I think this is the, one of the silent parts of the deal to make sure that we get rare earths and process rare earths as far as magnets and ball bearings and things that make our production economy. Because the Chinese Communist Party, as we told you, controls the supply chains. I think the Nvidia chip, which now is not their highest technology chip, but that chip which was banned from selling to the ccp, is now going to be sold to the, to the Chinese Communist Party. After a meeting with President Trump. We're going to go shortly to CERN in Switzerland. We have Joe Allen and Noor bin Laden a lot going over there on artificial intelligence on cern, also the World Health Organization. And Noor's got things that she wants to make sure people are attuned to and talked to a congressman about that. All being said and we had a great interview last night with Mike Benz. We're going to play parts of that. Mike Benz got some specific comments for the attorney general, a thing she could do immediately on the Epstein situation. John Solomon, who broke it on this very show on Friday night. The investigation by the FBI in the deep states, a 10 year program to shut down President Trump looks like it's going forward, an investigation. We have recommended a special counsel. I think Laura Loomers jumped in there, other people jumped in there and that special counsel should also take over the Epstein, all the Epstein evidence and should petition the court, should petition the court to basically unveil all the evidence they've got to unseal it. A lot of the evidence there is sealed by a federal court. Recommend the special prosecutor, if they take this on, that's very uncertain. But it looks like a special prosecutor I think will be named John Solomon saying by Wednesday or Thursday, but looks like no later than the end of this week they will actually announce a special counsel or special prosecutor in this situation of President Trump in the deep state. And hey, Epstein is just another piece of that as we've said over and over again. So to me it's your logical, logically be included. If you take Mike Benz's situation and what he's talking about on the CIA and other intel, it makes perfect sense. The just part has got many other things to do. Anna Paulina Luna is going to have a press conference afternoon with Jefferson, Jefferson Morley the great writer of the guys following the CIA very closely the CIA's involvement in the Kennedy situation. There's breaking news that she's going to have a press conference at 5 o' clock today and we are going to cover that. So it's a day of tremendous news and information. That being said, I have not gotten to the most important thing that's happened overnight and it's, it's quite disturbing. The, and President Trump may be using this and could be very much using this as a negotiating tactic, but the Financial Times of London has come out with a story this morning that talks about a call that President Trump had and we knew he had this call. This was the day after the, the very poor call that he had with Putin. Let's just go back over that week because it's gotten to us a point here. The week started off with the Pentagon announcing that and people assumed it was signed off by the White House. There's some question about that. President Trump said he didn't know anything about it, which is pretty shocking that the Pentagon looking at our inventories of particularly defensive surface to air defense capabilities and stripping stuff out of the Pacific had basically put a moratorium on sending anything else to Ukraine. They were going to, we were just stopping all weapons shipments that caused a mini firestorm. President Trump then on Thursday the 3rd of July had an hour and a half or two hour call or maybe longer with Putin and he said afterwards it was quite, it was a very disturbing call. We now know more details about it. I think Axios reported that Putin said, hey look, you took your shot at trying to get to a ceasefire. We've got it from here. This is really a bilateral situation and essentially butt out. We've got this and we're going to figure this out. President Trump was very disturbed about that. That evening on the third in Kiev, a massive air bombardment drones missiles aircraft bombarded Kyiv, I think in one of the worst bombardments the world. President Trump very, very upset since he had tried to bring peace to the air as we've talked about the next day. And this is what the Financial Times story of this morning reports. The President had a call with Zelensky and according to the Financial Times and not refuted by the White House as of yet and this is with unnamed sources, White House and personnel that were there and are knowledgeable. But the phone call said President Trump talk brought up the topic to Zielinski about long range American missiles and quote, basically if, if we provide these to you, can you use these to hit Moscow in St. Petersburg and Zelensky said absolutely we can hit Petersburg in say in, in Moscow. St. Petersburg in Moscow. The as you know, and the article actually alludes to this are many people in the national security apparatus that have been very, very concerned about Ukraine's ability to control itself or elements in the Ukrainian government's ability to control itself. And they brought up Spiderweb, which you talked about with Mike Benz yesterday about the, about the drone assault on the strategic triad, the bombers of, of Russia which is, you know, the way you kind of trip into a nuclear war. Very disturbing story in the Financial Times. We've got it up on getter I think Grace mouth blue breathing imbecile Grace Chung. Her handle her, her brand, amazing brand right? Grace has got it up. We've got a lot to get through this morning. The 50 days I did the calculation after the show 50 days from Bastille Day which was yesterday would put us wait for it right on the, I think the day after the, the day after Labor Day. This is, we're hurtling towards something we may not be able to pull back. We'll discuss it all in the war room.
Nor bin Laden
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Mike Benz
Like I said, 50 days is right after Labor Day. And that, and I say the confluence or the convergence of what's going to happen in Persia because that's far from over. President Trump stopped the 12 day war with a incredible military operation. Right. I think the most complicated that's been pulled off since World War II and brought the war to an end. But there's still all types of activity over there about are they trying to enrich, are they trying to go back? And the Persians are smack talking are, are they actually in negotiations or not? We know that the Netanyahu government's number one and the Israel first crowd here is regime change. And that is still, they're still pushing for that, the convergence of that in the 50 days here. And I said it'll converge sometime after Labor Day. You're going to have a full on engagement in the kinetic part of the third World War yesterday also. And I don't think people have talked about it. But secondary sanctions mean sanctions are people that are trading with you. The two biggest trading partners they have are, are India, but particularly the Chinese Communist Party. They give it, they sell a ton to the Chinese Communist Party. Very little to us, almost nothing or nothing now since the war, but even very little before Western Europe with, with the natural gas. But I assume we're going to put 100% tariffs on the CCP. Somehow I don't see that happening. If that happens, then you're really going to get engaged. And I just don't see everything that the administration is doing is not decoupling. They're restricting the Chinese Communist Party but not decoupling. And we've shifted our carrier battle groups essentially from the Pacific to the North Arabian Sea which are still there. And I think we're getting NATO carrier battle groups which are not even carry battle groups, just NATO carriers are actually going through the Straits of Malacca to Asia and East Asia, which I find quite bizarre because those carriers are not set up to fight the type of war you need to defend Taiwan. And I realize NATO is trying to show that they're an ally and involved and, and helping out and they understand the CCP is a major issue, but I just don't see it. I'd rather, much rather have them focus on doing what they should do, which is a European war, this is a European war that is going to metastasize. That's what happened in 1941. You did have a war in Asia going for years that was brutal. The Japanese invasion in Manchuria, then the China, the rape of Nan King. It was a horrific, horrific conflict. But this had not metastasized into a world war. The European war was, although bloody, was fairly contained until Operation Barbarossa in the summer of 1941. And of course in December of 1941, the Japanese attack US and then Germany declares war on us a couple days later and you have a global conflict, the bloodiest global conflict in world history. This is starting to remind me of the Guns of August, that all these different kind of elements that none of which would actually draw you into a much massive conflict is we're inexorably being drawn in. Now, President Trump, in all likelihood, it looks like he's using this as a bargaining chip along with the, along with the, the secondary sanctions. But yesterday he did get, he did jump on the guy that asked the question. That's kind of a logical question. You're going up the escalatory ladder. What's next? Now he doesn't want to flip his cards over, but the Russians seem pretty dug in here. And this is a European problem. It's a European problem we talked about down the campaign trail. President Trump was very adamant. It's their problem. And now he said yesterday five times, it's not Trump's war. Nothing could be more true. It's not Trump's war. President Trump, it would never happened. It didn't happen on his watch, it would have never happened on his watch. Putin would have never done this. But by these types of actions, particularly the shipping of these long range missiles and having a discussion that's been reported and not refuted by the White House, that, hey, that didn't happen. Particularly given the quality of the reporting coming out of the Financial Times, it's concerning now he may be using it as a bargaining chip. Say, hey, we're giving these missiles and they have the ability to do it. You're going to get not just sanctions on yourself, but secondary sanctions. So you have to come to the negotiating table. I think the KGB's theory of conflict is quite different than the Western. This is why our greatest military leaders in World War II did not want to get in any kind of tangle with, in the bloodlands in this part of the world. They were adamant that we stay out of it given the number of casualties could bring. So folks, better start paying attention here. As we've warned about on this show for a while, this is as serious as it gets. It also shows you it goes back to the Epstein. This is why I think that's a key that picks a lock. We're going to be doing this press conference live with Anna Paulina. Luna and Jefferson Morley on this really blockbuster news that she, because of her force of personality and demanding this go forward, there's now been release of information about the CIA and the Kennedy assassination. After all these decades, things that were actually hidden in proz at the CIA, in Angleton and Hoover at the FBI, all of them looked the American people on face and completely lied to the American people. And so I posit that you've had two coups already, had one against President Kennedy, had one against President Nixon that was different, had CIA involvement, but was a judicial, judicial revolt by Sirica and Jeff Shepard's amazing books. Back that up. And now you've got the third. We've announced that there's going to be the FBI is investigating the entire arc of the deep state trying to get rid of President Trump. My concern here is that in the Ukraine, in the Persian situation, you're kind of playing into the hands of what the deep state wants. This is what they want. They want an empire. Susan Rice, the other day when we had the layoffs over at the, at the State Department and by the way, Supreme Court last night backed up Department of Education. We'll try to get Mike Davis on here sometime today to back President Trump on the Department of education. His Article 2 powers, he can start to take it down to its to the deck plates just like Kerry Lake's doing over at Voice of America. They're going to be, they're really going to take the Department of Education finally after all those promises and all those decades. President Trump's got it. The Supreme Court's backed him up. He's going to do it. The Supreme Court has essentially given us the backing to take apart the deep state if we have the political will to do it. The State Department the other day, I think there were 1200 layoffs, mainly in USAID. They had this huge, you know, sob session in the lobby where they were applauding people as they took their plants out in their boxes after being let go. And Susan Rice put up on Twitter, this is how, this is how America's a superpower dies. Well, no, America's a superpower dies because of overextension, $37 trillion in debt, the inability to pay for it, and quite frankly, the peoples whose sons and daughters are the cannon fodder for this, finally stepping up and say we don't want to do, we're not going to do this anymore. We're not going to have our sons and daughters die on foreign battlefields. For basically a group of corporatists and wall street types in Deep State that have this fantasy about an American empire. It's what's destroyed the country. It's destroyed the country because you're allowed 10 to 20 million illegal alien invaders in on Biden's watch. Look at, look at, look at, look at what's happening. If you don't think it's serious of what's going on in New York in this election, you are dead wrong. Right? You are dead wrong. And you do not understand what's happening at these schools, at these colleges. The foot soldiers, they can put out, just like the ground game that we put out with, with you, with the precinct strategy and with the Trump movement. They've done that now with these kids who are totally indoctrinated. And there's millions more where they came from. Given the immigration policies we've had. Look at, look at Los Angeles. They're actively giving money to illegal aliens to protect themselves. They're now going to have their own authorities, combat the federal authorities to try to do mass deportations, mass deportations. They're trying to stare President Trump down and say it's not going to happen. That's the war. That's the war that, the most important front of this war is the war here in the United States of America. If we don't get this right and we don't do it now before the midterm elections and certainly before 2028, it's not going to get done. It has to happen now. And that's one of the things that, the diversions of our attention. You know, Homan was there the other day at the Charlie Kirk conference and gave a great presentation. But we're still, you know, you're still in, you know, in a, in the best case, a couple of thousand a day, you need to hit 7,000 a day to over four years to get to the 10, 8, 9, 10 million on mass deportations. It's just not happening. I realize the resources just got to them, but it is simply not happening. That's the most important front of the war at the moment that you're focused on the mass deportations in a permanent ceiling of the border. Your attention and efforts now divert it not just to Persia, to that war, but something that's even more irrelevant to us and that is a war on the eastern, you know, the Russian speaking eastern border of Ukraine, where we have no vital national security interests. I would argue we have no national security interests. That's a European problem, it's a NATO problem. They haven't stood up in yesterday. If we have that clip I'll play in the next segment. Yesterday, which it's interesting, this clip hit to me like a bombshell and no mainstream media and very little MAGA media picked it up where Rute Mark Rutte, the secretary general of the of NATO, says, hey, America's, you know, you're the global police force. You're the cop on the beat, you're the police agent for the world. And, you know, you've got to do this. No, that's exactly what America first has revolted against. We're not the cop of the world. Right. That's a globalist mentality. That's an American empire mentality. That is what has to be broken here. That's why people like Mike Benz are so important right now. Mike Benz kind of lays out easy steps that can be done immediately on this Epstein situation to really start to get some information out, some vital information out. This is why this special counsel they're looking at, I think on this on this needed investigation into what the deep state did against President Trump to to basically deny him office at first and thwart his efforts in office and finally steal the office from him. You look at that, that's the arc. It has to be investigated, and I think it has to be adjudicated in a criminal setting. It's a criminal investigation they're doing. You have to get a special counsel on there and have a criminal investigation of it. And I think just to make sure that we don't spin our wheels and waste time, give that special prosecutor the Epstein because it's going to tie in with much of the intelligence apparatus, also foreign governments and also foreign governments. Intelligence apparatus.
Nor bin Laden
Short commercial break we're going to go.
Mike Benz
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Nor bin Laden
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Mike Benz
Welcome back. Let's go to. Let's go, sir. Oh, just news on Capitol Hill. We're following this closely. Russ Vote and the team, they haven't been able to secure even a enough votes to start the debate on the $9.4 billion resistance package. Our recommendation to President Trump is just go do the impoundments. If you're just going to take this much time and this much brain damage and have Russ vote, I think he's going back up to Capitol Hill today. You've tried to work with the House and the Senate enough. And these rescissions either do pocket rescissions or just impound the money. And let's go to court on your Article 2 powers. The courts are backing you up, both at the State Department. Department of Education. This Department of Education, State Department ruling is massive. It reinforces President Trump's Article 2 powers to be chief executive officer of the government and to let people go in Department of Education. They're going to take apart brick by brick. So the same with the Money. His Article 2 powers, I think they're spending. It's so look, this is a $9.4 billion package that's supposed to be symbolic and they can't even get the 51 votes to get a debate, much less to get a, to try to get this passed. Anyway, we'll keep you updated on that. Let's Go to cern, Switzerland. First off, Joe Allen, why are you in CERN and why, when we mention that name, what is it? Why don't we mention that name? Many in the Warren posse think that you're going to get evaporated, sir.
Joe Allen
Well, Steve, you know, as you're fond of saying, let's go to the sublime from the less sublime. Behind me is a monument to light, especially the speed of light. And further back beyond your line of sight are detection systems for figuring out what sorts of properties matter has from smashing particles together. Right now in the systems below our feet, going out into the mountains and out to the Lake Lac Lamond, there are hundreds of billions of protons spinning at near the speed of light and smashing into each other. The idea is to figure out the properties of the matter. But the ultimate idea, and many would say that is why CERN is in some sense a temple to the religion of science. The ultimate idea is to figure out what the early universe looked like as in the first few seconds of the early universe. Beyond that, I think that the spiritual significance of this is only overshadowed by, by the monetary significance because there is a ton of money getting poured into all of this.
Noor bin Laden
Including from the us.
Mike Benz
What is the, yeah, talk to us about that with the money's there for the research. What is the purpose of the, what is the purpose of the, the stated purpose of the research?
Joe Allen
You know, like I say, the particle accelerator below our feet here is designed to basically smash subatomic particles together, protons in particular. And the more of them you smash together, the more they put off smaller subatomic particles, quarks, leptons, things like that, muons and the Higgs boson. Right. The so called God particle. The ultimate idea again is to try to get at the secrets of the universe, the deepest secrets of the universe. What did the universe look like during the first few moments of the Big Bang? Now you might say I don't care. And many people who are sensible would probably say the same. But if you are a scientist who believes in nothing more than science, there's really nothing more precious than that last little bit of data. You know, if there's one thing we cover all the time, Steve, it is the kind of religious significance of data for the techno class. And that last bit of data, what did the early universe look like? Well, supposedly they're discovering it beneath our feet. But you know, the coffee is pretty expensive. That's probably indicative of some of the costs.
Mike Benz
What is Norton? What is the fear? Why have people. I don't Know, if we have the clip, maybe my staff can dig it up on this ceremony. Didn't they have a ceremony? Oh, there, I think a couple of years ago when they opened a new. If we could pull that. If my crack staff here could pull that clip, maybe we'll play that. What is the. The fear of the nationalists or the populist nationalist movement, nor, you know it so well, on an international basis, have a. Have a hesitancy. This is supposed to be a temple for the highest form of science. Remember in the science particularly, we saw the movie Oppenheimer, the physicists consider themselves the high priest of science. Everything else they kind of consider are poets. This is a temple to the high priest of science and the physicists and the subatomic particle in various endeavors like that. Why are people, many people, so concerned about what goes on there? And certainly some of the events that have taken around, taken place around there, particularly this opening they had a couple of years ago, ma'. Am.
Noor bin Laden
Well, there are many theories, not to say conspiracy theories, surrounding the CERN itself, just like many of these international globalist institutions. But I would say that the recurring one is that underneath our feet, as Joe mentioned, there are these experiments taking place. And the fear is that there will be a huge black hole that will be created and that will engulf us all. But on a more pragmatic level, I would just say that what is not a conspiracy is that all of these institutions are essentially black holes for all of our taxpayer money.
Joe Allen
If I could add to that, Steve, that incident you're talking about, that was August of 2016. There was a recording of one of the areas here, apparently near where the interns stay, where they have a giant statue to Shiva, the expression of God as destroyer for the Hindus. And some of the employees here got together in black robes and conducted what I believe was a mock human sacrifice on film. And they say that it's just a prank. I asked a few people here, I asked our guide in particular. He did not seem too pleased with the question. I thought it was simply a playful question. He did not think so.
Noor bin Laden
Very much. Off limits topic. And we are not able to visit that part of cern. The complex of CERN is actually very big, and that particular zone is off limits.
Joe Allen
And by the way.
Mike Benz
So hang on, we got some footage there, but let me.
Noor bin Laden
Yeah, I think that's the Gothard Tunnel. Yeah, yeah, that's something else. That's actually also a ceremony that took place in Switzerland a few years back. It was for the opening of the Gothard Tunnel. So that's actually not what took place here at cern. But many of these ceremonies are infused with absolutely demonic and satanic themes. Whether you look at this video, the CERN video, the Olympics, obviously, the latest Olympics In Paris, the 2012 Olympics in London, which eerily enough, had predictive programming scenes of a future pandemic. So they like to put in all of this imagery to let us know what is coming, I guess. Joe.
Joe Allen
Either that or they're very, very good at anticipating the future.
Mike Benz
Yeah, Joe, when you say Shiva, isn't that. Didn't Oppenheimer use that quote about the destroyer at the very moment in the Trinity experiment when the bomb went off on. The test bomb went off in New Mexico and they had the platform, they were a couple of miles away at the very moment they realized it worked, because there's a big question whether it's going to work. He actually did that famous quote from the Hindu religion, sir, which is about Shiva being the destroyer of all.
Joe Allen
Yes. So interestingly enough, Steve, in my travels, I was just out at White Sands where they detonated the bomb. Very eerie. The silence is existential, you might say. Yep. Oppenheimer, of course, taught himself Sanskrit because he was so obsessed with the various kinds of images of technological weaponry that one finds in the Mahabharata. In the Bhagavad Gita, as you say, you have Shiva appearing as Kali, the goddess of death, or just as death. And so in that statement, as he watched the first man made nuclear explosion over that desert, he said that the Sanskrit lines from the Bhagavad Gita came to his mind. I am become death, destroyer of worlds. I am become Kali. I am become time black. And aside from whatever is going on in these near light speed particles whizzing beneath our feet, I think that it not only sends a chill down the spine, given the crisis we now face in the midst of what seems to be the Third World War, but artificial intelligence should give people this, a similar sense of unease that maybe we're dealing with something far beyond our ability to control.
Mike Benz
Okay, so later today. This ties both together. You had this very disturbing article in the Financial Times of London and the White House has not come out. At least I'll ask my crack staff here. I don't think they've come out right now and refuted it. It is, folks, we have it up on Getter and I think Grace has done it so that we could. That everybody can read it. If you don't subscribe to the Financial Times of London, but it's very disturbing about a conversation President Trump had with Zelinsky about the long range missiles and could they actually hit St. Petersburg and Moscow. And it talks about a group of American officials that have been very focused on quote unquote taking the war to the Muscovites. You know, Putin has I think addressed as late as last week about taking down the threshold for using tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine if they run into some problems with NATO. You couple that with in Pittsburgh today and this is a great investment in America and try the re industrialization of our heartland and that's why they've chosen Pittsburgh. And I think they have a re industrialization conference in Detroit starting I think today and tomorrow also. Both of these though are very much focused on artificial intelligence and there's $80 billion of investment in that as we know. And Daria, I've talked to a number of people at the senior level, some of these the leaders in artificial intelligence and they're quite concerned about the driving force of this Joe is still a lot of it is you know, Pentagon and military use. You saw yesterday where GROK looks like his contract. I'm here to tell you that is absolutely not 100% true. Right. Particularly given the problems GROK has had. But that is a contract of $200 million that I think is going to be led for a number of AI initiatives. But Joe, the Pentagon is at the cutting edge of driving artificial intelligence. And this is why the Nvidia released today is got some people concerned because the Chinese Communist Party is trying to weaponize artificial intelligence more rapidly than even the American defense community. Your thoughts sir? We got about a minute before we go to break.
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In this very short time. I'll simply say that people should right now go and look up super intelligence strategy by Dan Hendricks, Eric Schmidt. Yeah, I know. And Alexander Wang. I think that will really give you a sense of why it is so important that we not feed the Chinese chips data IP any of it.
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Guys, can you hang around? I got a lot more to get to. Senator Hawley's going to join us. MTG is going to join us. But I got a lot more I want to discuss with you guys at CERN including more artificial intelligence, more aspects of CERN and Nor, Bin Laden's favorite, the World Health Organization and what's happening over there. Frank Gaffney had a really good Frank Gaffney minute this morning. I've given it to Nor and want her observations and comments.
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Mike Benz
Okay, welcome back. Election wizard, which goes against these clips all the time, is reporting. Now breaking news from the White House. This is from the White House. Financial Times misconstrued President Trump's statement to Zelensky. We don't think deeper than that, but I knew if we put it up and made it a item that we might get a response out of this because a response is needed. And I hope the White House pushes back on this hard and really clarifies What President Trump said. Senator Hawley, your thoughts and observations of yesterday with the announcement of the, of the selling to NATO of long range offensive missiles to the Ukrainians. I know you've been a pretty, you've been a big skeptic about this entire Ukraine situation from the beginning, sir.
Daria Amade
Yeah, I have. You know, here's my view on this. If, if we're going to be sending more arms to Ukraine, I'm glad that we're getting paid for them. I mean that's I think an important point here. I don't think that we should be just doing this gratis. We've spent hundreds of billions of dollars as you know, Steve, sending weapons to Ukraine. I mean you just think about what would that do for veterans healthcare in our country, what would that do for working people in our country. So I think we need to start driving a lot tougher bargain. The President now saying we're going to get compensated for any weapons that we send. I think it's a good first step. I continue to believe however that we need to say to our NATO allies in Europe that guys really, this continent has got to be your responsibility in the first instance. They have got to do, step up and do a heck of a lot more than they are doing. And the president got them to increase their defense spending which is a huge victory. But I think we need to have them do even more. And I just continue to be concerned, Steve, that we don't want to get embroiled in a long term forever war on the continent of Europe. The President I think wants to bring this war to a conclusion. Putin needs to be put back into his box. But the Europeans have got to be, they've got to take the lead in doing that, be responsible for it.
Mike Benz
Your constituents in Missouri are over represented in the military in volunteering as patriots. What's the sense of your folks back in your home state about this situation?
Daria Amade
Well, nobody wants to see troops on the ground. I mean you think about our folks who are actually there, I mean in service wearing the uniform. Nobody wants to see American troops on the ground here. And this is something that I've always been concerned with, particularly frankly under the last the of administration because it has sounded for a long time to me a lot like Vietnam where we start sending, first we send weapons and then we send advisors. And I think we're already at that point, Steve. And then pretty soon after that it becomes, well, you know, we need to actually send troops just to make sure. And then pretty soon we're completely embroiled in it. So, you know, I trust President Trump. I think he will. I'm confident he would never want to see American troops on the ground. I can't imagine that. I'm glad he's getting us paid for the weapons. I think we've got to, as I was just saying, I think we've got, though to push hard here to get the Europeans stepping up and actually taking the lead on this. This is their continent. And the truth is, if you look at our threats overseas, put aside our border for the second, which is our biggest immediate threat. But if you look overseas at our threats, there it is, China in the Asia Pacific, that is our biggest threat. Russia is second to that. And we've got to focus where our biggest overseas threat is. And right now that's China, which means our European allies. They're the ones who really got to do more here.
Mike Benz
I want to make sure we get to two things before you got to bounce and appreciate the time. Number one, you've been all over this auto pin situation. It's just becoming now front page news. What in the hell is going on and what can you do about it?
Daria Amade
Well, what needs to happen? A couple things. I mean, first of all, we need to call the person we now have, the name of the person who managed the auto pin under Biden. I believe it's the individual is a woman. She needs to be called before Congress, put under oath, testify in public. We need to hear from her. We need to know exactly what did he authorize? When did he authorize this? I suspect the truth is, Steve, he didn't authorize anything, which would be like the scandal of the century. We need to know that. Number two, there is supposed to be a paper trail. You know, we had a hearing on this in the Senate a couple of weeks ago. To me, the big revelation out of that hearing was every time the auto pin is used, there's supposed to be an explicit paper trail. The president has to, at a minimum, give verbal consent to use it and a record is made of that. So let's get all the documents. Let's see them. They should be in Biden's archives. They ought to be in his papers. We need to go get them. If Biden's not going to release them voluntarily, Congress ought to subpoena those documents and get them and put them out in public. Where's the paper trail? Who authorized the use of the pen? That's what we need to be getting after.
Mike Benz
I think you're right. The scale of the scandal here is pretty mind boggling if he didn't really know and it doesn't seem like he did. Another scandal that you've been at the front of, pushing to get some answers is the, the FBI files on the President Trump's, you know, one year anniversary of the assassination attempt. It's kind of stunning. We don't really know a lot about this guy. We don't know the family. The father hasn't been arrested or charged. It's, it's pretty stunning. Even the investigation, but we don't really have any records. What is your recommendation there?
Daria Amade
My recommendation is we declassify Homeland Security, Department of Homeland Security, declassify all of the records relating to the Butler assassination attempt and this guy, Thomas Matthew Crooks. We need to know everything there is to know about it. Here's the deal. Stevie, you're on. From this thing where the President's nearly killed on national television. It's a miracle of God that he survives a year after this. Still, pretty much most of what we know is based on whistleblowers. And I want to thank again the brave whistleblowers. I talked to so many of them over the last year who came forward to me and to other offices, but I think we had more than anybody, Secret Service, FBI, Homeland Security, who came forward and gave us a picture of what was going on. But Steve, the travesty is a year later, were it not for those whistleblowers, I think we'd still know basically nothing. That really is just not acceptable. And so I would just call on the Homeland Security Department, Secretary Noem. She's a great patriot. I would call on her to declassify all of the information. We need to see all of it. And you know what? If that makes some people look bad, so be it. We may need to do some house cleaning. And the fact that nobody has been fired, nobody at Secret Service, you just about lost a president twice actually, and nobody has been fired. Boy, there's a problem.
Mike Benz
Real quickly, we only got about a minute. I just want to make sure you're saying all the vital information that we really have come from whistleblowers, not the official apparatus itself, correct?
Daria Amade
Yeah, that's correct. Almost every you look at the reports, there's a recent report out from the Homeland Security Committee came out a couple of days ago. Almost all of that information was initially given to us by whistleblowers. It was whistleblowers who told us that the roof of the AGR building was abandoned. And they were right. It was whistleblowers who said the Secret Service Refused the offer of drones from local law enforcement. I'll just be honest with you. Steve was a local law enforcement agent who told me that. And you know what? That was exactly correct. Secret Service did refuse drone help. Whistleblowers told us that there weren't. There were not going to be counter snipers. Secret Service wasn't even planning to send them. That turns out to be correct. All of the stuff we know from whistleblowers, where are the official records? It's time we get the official stuff and everything. You know his apps, Thomas Crook's apps now have been accessed by FBI. Let's see it. Hey, we're not going to prosecute the guy. He's dead. Let's see all the information.
Mike Benz
Senator, where do people go to get you? Where's social media?
Daria Amade
Holly? Moe is my Twitter handle. Same for Instagram, Facebook, you can go to Josh. Holly.com as always, thanks for having me, Steve.
Mike Benz
Senator, thank you very much for caring up to the time force.
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Episode Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 4632: Live From CERN: The Worship Of Human Data; Pushing For Answers In Butler
Release Date: July 15, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Description: WAR ROOM: Pandemic is the first and most comprehensive program providing up-to-the-minute news. Stephen K. Bannon hosts medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and frontline workers to deliver insider insights on the latest developments.
Stephen K. Bannon opens the episode with a detailed analysis of the June Consumer Price Index (CPI). He highlights that headline inflation increased by 3.10% year-over-year, aligning with expectations and marking it as the second warmest reading of the year after January's 3.00%.
Bannon explains that when excluding volatile food and energy sectors, core inflation stands at 2.90%, slightly above the previous 2.80% but still on target. He notes that long-term interest rates are declining, reflecting the market’s response to less severe inflation data.
The conversation shifts to the impact of artificial intelligence (AI) on employment. Bannon introduces a discussion between Mike Benz and Joe Scarborough, emphasizing the divergent views on whether AI will create or destroy jobs.
Joe Scarborough (02:49): “AI companies are trying to scare us. If we never had any new ideas, we wouldn't be making progress.”
Mike Benz (05:49): “The models are becoming more capable faster than employers and government are dealing with it.”
Scarborough cites Jensen Huang of Nvidia, who argues that AI will enhance productivity and create new job opportunities, contrasting with opinions from Dario Amade, CEO of Anthropic, who warns of significant disruptions in entry-level white-collar positions.
Bannon reports on a significant development where Nvidia secured assurances from the Trump administration to sell its chips to China, a move expected to bolster Nvidia's stock market performance globally.
He underscores the strategic importance of this agreement in securing rare earth elements and maintaining the US's technological edge amidst China's growing influence.
A substantial portion of the episode focuses on the ongoing investigations into former President Trump and the Epstein case. Bannon advocates for appointing a special counsel to oversee these inquiries, citing a deep state effort to undermine Trump’s administration.
He connects the Epstein investigation to broader attempts to dismantle Trump’s influence, urging for transparency and accountability.
Nor bin Laden discusses the upcoming BRICS summit in Rio de Janeiro, where emerging superpowers aim to replace the US dollar as the global currency. This "Rio Reset" is expected to decrease global demand for the dollar, potentially reducing its value.
He advises listeners to consider diversifying their savings into precious metals like gold to hedge against the declining dollar.
A significant segment is dedicated to CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, where Joe Allen and Nor bin Laden discuss the enigmatic and controversial experiments conducted there. Concerns are raised about potential catastrophic outcomes, such as the creation of black holes.
Joe Allen (31:47): “The ultimate idea is to figure out what the early universe looked like during the first few seconds of the Big Bang.”
Nor bin Laden (35:40): “The recurring fear is that these experiments might create a huge black hole that will engulf us all.”
They delve into allegations of sinister rituals and excessive government spending, portraying CERN as a "temple to the high priest of science" with hidden dangers.
Bannon addresses the growing concerns over immigration, highlighting the Chinese Communist Party's acquisition of US farmland and control over critical supply chains. He warns of the potential for China to tighten its grip on global food production, posing significant national security risks.
He emphasizes the urgency for America to prepare for possible disruptions by advising listeners to invest in emergency supplies.
The discussion returns to the Ukraine conflict, where Bannon criticizes the US's involvement, arguing that it is a European issue that should be managed by NATO allies. He references a disturbing report from the Financial Times about a call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky, suggesting that the US might be considering providing missiles capable of striking Moscow and St. Petersburg.
He warns that such actions could escalate the conflict into a nuclear confrontation, drawing parallels to World War II's global devastation.
Senator Daria Amade joins the conversation to address the Auto PIN scandal, where misuse of the personal identification number (PIN) system by the Biden administration is under scrutiny. She calls for transparency and accountability, urging Congress to subpoena relevant documents.
Amade also highlights the lack of official records and the reliance on whistleblowers, emphasizing the need for a thorough investigation.
Amade further discusses the need to declassify records related to an assassination attempt on President Trump. She criticizes the lack of official information and calls for a criminal investigation to uncover the truth.
She stresses that most information has come from whistleblowers and that official channels have not provided sufficient details.
Stephen K. Bannon (00:00): “Headline inflation is up 3.10%, as expected, making it the second warmest of the year.”
Joe Scarborough (02:49): “AI companies are trying to scare us. If we never had any new ideas, we wouldn't be making progress.”
Nor bin Laden (15:00): “The Rio Reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality.”
Joe Allen (31:47): “The ultimate idea is to figure out what the early universe looked like during the first few seconds of the Big Bang.”
Daria Amade (49:10): “We need to get all the documents and see them. We need to know who authorized the use of the PIN.”
In this episode, Stephen K. Bannon navigates through a myriad of pressing issues, from economic indicators and the transformative impact of AI on the job market to geopolitical tensions involving the US, China, and emerging alliances like BRICS. The episode underscores concerns about governmental transparency, the potential dangers of unchecked scientific experimentation at institutions like CERN, and the looming threats of escalating conflicts in Ukraine.
Special attention is given to the need for accountability in high-stakes political situations, advocating for investigations into deep state activities and misuse of governmental powers. Bannon and his guests emphasize vigilance and proactive measures to safeguard national interests and individual financial security amidst a rapidly changing global landscape.
Listeners are encouraged to stay informed, critically assess institutional actions, and engage in financial planning to mitigate potential economic and geopolitical risks.