
Episode 4636: Will Powell Keep His Job; Trump Meets With Crown Prince Of Bahrain ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
John Solomon
Pray for our enemies because we're going.
Steve Bannon
Medieval on these people.
John Solomon
You're just not going to free shot.
Steve Bannon
All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it.
John Solomon
I know you don't like hearing that.
Steve Bannon
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
John Solomon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
Steve Bannon
If that answer is to save my.
John Solomon
Country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your Host, Stephen K. Ban 22.
Steve Bannon
Okay, Wednesday the 16th of July, year of our Lord 2025. A couple of news items here. John Solomon Real America's Voice owned John Solomon. And I want to remind people this is what we had Fenton on right beforehand. You have a number of, I think our top investigative folks. The Tom Fenton's of the world, the John Solomons of the world, other people that are, you know, all over the situation, the Deep State and Epstein, all of it. John Solomon just came out of a interview with the President. That interview is going to run in its entirety. Unreal America's Voice at 6:00pm tonight right after the War Room, we're going to try to get John up. John's back at the studio from the White House. We're going to try to get John up to just give some highlights of what's happening because I think he's got some pretty blockbuster news. Remember John came on Friday in the extended coverage we had down at SAS Tampa, the student summit, Action Summit. And there he broke the news that there is a lot of movement. It's kind of, it kind of takes what Finton saying. And Fenton's concern, Fenton's concern is hey, I've seen this before with Durham, etc. Can the. And this is not a criticism of Pam or Cash or Bongino. He's saying those, as I say all the time, they are barely hanging on in those institutions. Those institutions are still controlled by the Deep State and still controlled by anti maga, still controlled by globalists, still controlled by people that hate President Trump and want to remove President Trump or at least wait, President Trump out. Okay, so this whole issue and this ties together with Mike Davis and everything we said about the Article 2 powers, remember the Article 2 powers. I think yesterday the Supreme Court backed us up on taking down the Department of Education. On President Trump's Article 2 powers. Today there's going to be a vote in the Senate on this rescissions bill of $9 billion, not 9.4. We had to take 400 million off of a program related to Collins of Maine. So it's $9 billion, but it will be the first rescission, I think voted. I think the first rescissions voted to. In like human history.
John Solomon
Right.
Steve Bannon
Or at least in living memory. And although it's not huge, it reinforces President Trump's Article 2 powers. Now, we've argued, hey, just go all the way to impoundment because the courts are backing you up here with these Article 2 powers. Right there, you got the shot of the, of the White House. We're anticipating the Crown Prince of Bahrain and the Prime Minister. There's supposed to be a bilat. We believe it's going to be a press avail. The reason we're covering this so intensely, they say it's open to the. They say it's open to the press. Our own Brian Glenn is there. I think we're going to try to get him by phone. We're also trying to get John Solomon up. So John Solomon gave a couple of headlines because the other day he had talked to Cash Patel and he put to bed the rumor that was out that Cash Patel might resign over the weekend. So that's not going to happen. Cash is there to stay. And then shortly after that interview, Cash put a tweet out that said, hey, I serve at the pleasure of the President, and if I'm, if the president likes my work, do I have Brian Glenn? Brian Glenn, can you get us up to date? I know we don't have you by your lovely visage, but can you tell us this bilat with the, with the Crown Prince of Bahrain and the Prime Minister? I think this is going to be a press avail. You're going to be available actually in the Oval and everybody's waiting for. What the President has to say is that. Am I correct on that? Because we're kind of flying a little bit blind here.
Brian Glenn
That's okay.
Donald Trump
Good.
Brian Glenn
Good morning. Yeah, we're just outside the West Wing right now. The shot you're looking at, obviously, is the entrance to the West Wing. We are still waiting for them to arrive here. Just shortly, about 11:15, that bilateral meeting will take place in the Oval Office. It has to do with purchasing mil military equipment from the US to their government. And I'm still kind of waiting for confirmation that I'll be in that Oval meeting. And then, of course, a little bit later today, President Trump shifting over to the East Room for a bill signing that has to do with fentanyl.
John Solomon
Walk me through.
Steve Bannon
Is the color guard is, I don't see the color guard coming out. I mean, this is an official state visit, right, with the Crown Prince and the prime minister, or is it a working session?
Brian Glenn
No, it's, it's, it's a, it's the, the color guard is just off of camera. Will's going to flip the camera around real quickly. Will. So you. Steve. So you can see they just have not officially gotten in place. Now, typically, they've rehearsed this several times before they officially arrive. It looks like today that is not the case. They're going to probably get in position about 10 minutes prior to arrival. And then, of course, the, the arrival takes place along Pebble Beach. But you got a good shot of.
Amanda Head
The color guard right there.
Steve Bannon
Color guard. And there's the, and there's also some of the press people following it right there. The color guard, they're going to come down. So it may be, we thought start exactly at 11 o'. Clock. So this, I think we ought to try to get Johnson up now. Looks like, looks like 1115. The 1115. Talk to me about, there's all this discussion now about investigations, deep state investigations. President Trump's been hammering it about Comey, about Brennan. We've had Tom Fenton on with his theories of what's happening. I think John Solomon just finished an interview with the President. He's going to give us some heads up. What are you hearing at the White House about this? Glenn, you're pretty close to the team over there. What's the vibe you're getting?
Brian Glenn
Well, it's interesting because I haven't heard a lot in particular to that. Now, if you look at President Trump's true social that he pushed out about 20 minutes ago, and I apologize if you guys have discussed that already. That does talk a lot about all of the curiosity, if you will, swirling around the Epstein files and this tug of war of what has not been revealed, what is yet to be revealed, if there's anything yet to reveal. That's all on that. I have not heard much as of today in regards to that. I'm looking forward to seeing, listening to John Solomon's interview on that in regards. So to be honest with you, Steve, I have not gotten a lot of information in regards to that from the Trump camp to me today.
Steve Bannon
Finally, we pivoted yesterday. You know, we've had pulses, we had we had Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen on yesterday and we had Richard Barris. And both of their polling shows the same thing, that the economic message of President Trump, particularly with real wage growth, what's happening on tariffs, that the, and this is why you were with him yesterday in Pittsburgh. And we, Jane Zirkel, finally the House made available House members. Jane Zirkel's I think done 20 interviews, all of them quite fascinating with House members. The economic message here is so powerful.
John Solomon
Right.
Steve Bannon
But somehow they're bogged down in the, in the Epstein situation. Are you seeing, like with today with the Fentanyl, are they trying to do a hard pivot, just try to talk about things that are clearly resonating with the American people.
Brian Glenn
I don't know if that's their intention, but that's exactly what's going to happen. Even look at the PPI numbers that came out early today, much lower than expected. So that is good news. And of course, Jerome Powell continues to be in the news. President Trump basically yesterday hinting around at either firing him or, you know, forcing a resignation. These are things that does take away from the concentration of the Epstein files. There's a lot of economic news. Look what's in Homer, Pennsylvania. What they're doing to that region of Pennsylvania is unprecedented. President Trump said at a rally there in Pennsylvania during the campaign that he was going to do exactly what he's doing today. That is economic development in that state. So whether or not its intention or not, what if intentionally. Not, Steve, I don't know, but it certainly a good way of getting the base back on track. And, and I had someone, Steve, if I could just for a second describe what's going on right now. Imagine your football team going the first eight games of the season. You're eight. No. Then you finally lose your, your ninth game. You're eight and one. Instead of just focusing on that one loss, you got to move ahead. And I know people are disappointed, obviously a lot of people and the war room posse is disappointed on what's kind of how.
Steve Bannon
But it's like, but, but, but hang on. It's like, it's like you're, but it's like you're. That ninth loss is army versus army versus Navy or Notre Dame versus usa, Right. Or Texas A and M versus Texas, something like that. The, and by the way, it started with the White House thing they had with Pam Bondi. That was a fiasco a couple of months ago. I mean, this was initiated by the White House. Both things were initiated by, you know, Hatter at the White House. And they had this memo in the middle of night. So the people that are following this are saying, hey, this is kind of foisted on this. And people were not. Nobody I know went digging for this.
John Solomon
Right.
Steve Bannon
Anyway, Brian, we're gonna get John Solomon up. He's got a huge interview that he's gonna release the day at 6. If you can stick around, we're gonna come back to you. Let me go to John. Is John Solomon up? Okay, we're getting Johnson. John Solomon's over at the real America's Voice studio in Washington. Just finished interviewing the President. He will make that interview play that interview in its entirety on his show tonight, Just the News with John Solomon and Amanda Head in its entirety. I think it's got some blockbuster comments and I want to make sure we get at least John on to give some highlights and some headlines of what to anticipate. There may be a press avail here. So I want to make sure John gets ahead of it. Brian Glenn is at the White House. Hopefully Brian will be in if they make it a press avail. The reason we're covering this so intensely is that they say they're going to make it open to the. Open to the press. And so that's always. You know, the President will normally hold court on these bilats. Very different than traditional where, you know, they bring you and shake a few hands, ask a couple questions about. From either party about what they're talking about here. It's Bahrain. People should know Bahrain is the kind of, I guess, island you would call it in the middle of the Persian Gulf or the Arabian Gulf, traditionally where the British kind of ran things out of or had a big. It was open to the international community before you had. Before you had Dubai and before you had places like Qatar that had more open. Were more open to the international community. Bahrain was it in fact the Navy when we first got over there in the late 70s on the Iranian hostage crisis, the Pacific fleet, they used to have what they called the white fleet. There was so hot that the British had taught the Americans how to paint the ships white to reflect the heat, not the haze gray of the Navy. And so the Navy always had a installation in Bahrain. In Bahrain today, the Crown Prince and the Prime Minister are coming. They're talking about American arms sales. I'm sure there's be a strategic conversation about what's going on, particularly with Iran, remember the Gulf Emirates and the Saudis. So Bahrain, you know, uae, Qatar, even Kuwait, have always had this. Have always had this great animosity and fear of the Persians with the Saudis. And so I'm sure that's going to come up in the conversation. Part of this will be behind the scenes today. Is John Solomon up? Not up yet. My crack producer. I'm not getting any response. So Mr. Producer, is John Solomon up? Okay, fine. That's a yes or no. It's appropriate. Just tell me. We're trying to get Solomon hooked up. John Solomon just did a, just did an interview with the President, I think about 20 or 30 minutes. Like I said, it's going to play its entirety tonight at 6 o' clock on John Solomon's show. John broke the news on Friday that Cash Patel would stay at the FBI. Turned out to be correct. Dan Bongino stay at the FBI. A lot of I think hurt feelings between DOJ and FBI but work proceeds. Dan Bongino's back at work on the situation. President yesterday said we played in the cold open. Hey, if there's credible things, just go to release them. Put out a true social A little while ago was maybe not, maybe, maybe not as, maybe not going down that direction. But we'll have to see. That's why Solomon would be very important to Tom Fenton has said and I agree with him and I think this is the lesson Mike Davis taught us in the, Mike Davis taught us in over the last couple of years at Article 3 is that the Article 2 powers of President Trump are going to be tested. Remember, he's the chief executive officer of the United States government. He's commander in chief of the uniformed services of the military. He is also a, he's also a, the chief magistrate and chief law enforcement officer. And this all plays into that. The, the Yesterday the Supreme Court for the second time backed up President Trump, first about the State Department, second about Department of Education. President Trump's, President Trump's concept of, of this government is to downsize this. Now he's doing it through the appropriations process and also give everybody a heads up. I think it's pretty well known within Washington as of yesterday there's probably going to be a cr. I don't think they're going to get the appropriations bills done because I think they're going to take an August recess. There's only 20 work days between today and the end of September. I think there's 20 legislative days. We're in the middle of July. 20 legislative days between now and the middle of September. I think I'm pretty accurate in that the appropriation, all the, all 12 VIGIL appropriations bills. I think are not going to get done. And so let's go to we got John Solomon. We'll go back to Brian Glenn a moment. So, John, you just finished a an interview with the President. I know you're going to play it in its entirety without commercial interruption at 6 o' clock on your show on Real America's Voice. That follows the war room. Can you give us a couple of just headlines because I'm sure it's knowing John Solomon, it's got some big scoops in it.
Amanda Head
Thank you. Yeah, listen, he was just very candid, very open, very detailed, very focused. Let's start with the big thing he clearly learned in the last few days about the grand conspiracy case at the Cash Patel at the FBI opened. He embraced it. He said, I like it. It's a good approach. I didn't know about it until you reported on and I shouldn't need to know about it. But it's the right approach of looking at the last decade of going after consulting conservatives as a criminal conspiracy. He said he was open to a special prosecutor and he said that special prosecutor should just take a look at Epstein and make sure there's nothing there to give the American public a little more latitude, a little more confidence that we're not hiding anything. I'm not hiding anything. We have nothing to hide. But if he wants to look at anything legitimate, they're there. So I think the President's behind the special prosecutor behind going after the last decade as a criminal conspiracy to use the judicial system to punish political enemies and also to keep his hands off it. He said, this is in Pam and Cassius hands. They do the work. But I like the idea from what you reported, I thought that was big. He's not going to fire Jerome Powell, but he sure hopes that Jerome Powell resigns. I think that was a big moment in the interview. People will hear what he has to say about that. And then he talked extensively about the economy, the tariffs. He had read Amanda Head's story this morning saying that he is moving towards a balanced budget, that the combination of tariff revenue, more spending cuts and his ability now from the courts to get rid of as many bureaucrats as he wants, that they could get on a path to a balanced budget, which two years ago, even six months ago, seemed improbable. But he was very serious about that and very detailed about that. And then he went through the trade deals. He said, India's in the wind. It's going to happen pretty soon. Canada's a ways off. I think the EU is going to buckle because they're. They can't live without us. And we'll have almost all the trade deals in place in just a few weeks. And people will see the future revenues and also the future relationships we'll have for trade. So he was relaxed, he was very detailed. He was excited that Adam Schiff's mortgage fraud was being looked at. And I think people are going to enjoy this interview type. Very, very substantive interview.
John Solomon
Yeah, hang on.
Steve Bannon
You're already going to move markets. I want to go back before the grand conspiracy. I just want to report here, you say it again. He is not going to fire Jerome Powell because the rumor, it's this morning on Wall Street, Powell's going to be terminated and either Bessant or Hassett are going to step in. You're reporting right now from the President. He's not going to fire Jerome Powell.
Amanda Head
I asked him, would you fire him? And he said, I'm not going to do it because they tell me it would hurt the markets. Listen, I think there's this issue with the $2.5 billion lavish remodel there. That is a issue that needs to be looked at. But I hope he resigns. And I think that's where he left it. But he said, I'm not going to do it because I don't want to roil the market. So that was a pretty big, pretty big moment in the interview.
Steve Bannon
I want to go back to make sure particular we got a ton of new people here on Spotify and other things. When we talk grand criminal conspiracy against of the deep state, just go back in time and hit a highlight reel. What are you talking. Because so much of this is based upon your reporting, what you've been doing for years.
John Solomon
We have had.
Steve Bannon
We have had the massive disappointment or underperformance of Durham that still sticks in people's minds when you talk a grand conspiracy. Oh, he does he. Did he reiterate that to you?
Amanda Head
He did. He said, listen, I don't know why Bill Barr prosecuted John Durham. He took four years to tell us the same thing that Michael Horowitz told us in a year. He was very versatile in the inspector general report, the Durham report. It's remarkable how much detail he knows about it. And he's like, we need a moment of accountability. Let's just get it done. And he was excited to know. He didn't know about it really until he read our story, but he was excited to know that Cash Patel is looking at this. Wash, rinse, repeat cycle. What does that happen? Democrat has a legal Problem. The Deep State exonerates Hillary Clinton tries to exonerate a hunter. Biden tries to let Joe Biden off the hook for the classified documents. And then the Deep State turns on the Republican and tries to project that sin, or a sin, on Donald Trump or his Republican followers. Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment. Donald Trump's classified documents, even though he had the right to declassify them and take them with him. That is what Cash Patel is looking at. And then everything else that goes to that, your prosecution, the failure to look at the Chinese intervention in the 2020 election, all of that is looked at as an ongoing conspiracy to use the color of law, to use the authority of government to protect one political party and to punish another party. You start to look at it that way, it becomes a criminal conspiracy, much like the mob was looked at in the 80s and 90s.
Steve Bannon
And you believe that this will go back all the way to the beginning of the. Of at least the beginning of this coup. Not to Nixon and not to jfk, which I think has to happen, too. But do you believe this will go back to Crossfire Hurricane? It will go back to the spring.
Amanda Head
I think it goes back to Hillary being cleared. Yeah. I think it goes back to the moment Hillary Clinton was cleared. He made two big pieces of news. In the middle interview, he is going to declassify the classified annex that showed that the FBI had new intelligence on Hillary Clinton's emails and chose not to look at it. We're going to, for the first time, ever, get to see what that intelligence is. He's declassifying that and then the intercept that where they find out Hillary Clinton approved the Russia hoax. He's going to declassify that. Letting a grand jury see that something John Durham couldn't even do will be a huge advantage to whoever the prosecutor is and for the FBI to get moving.
John Solomon
Now.
Steve Bannon
And you say that he's not aware of any of this, obviously, but that you did inform him that they're thinking about appointing a special counsel on this to take over this entire. This entire investigation.
Amanda Head
Yeah. And he sounds like it's a good approach. Let's just do it. Let's get the trust of the American people, let's get accountability, and then let's focus on the things that matter, like the future of the economy, the future of education, shrinking the government, getting to a balanced budget, securing the world. He's so frustrated. You can really see it. But he had a pointed warning in the middle of the interview, much like the truth. He just put out A few minutes ago that Republicans who are talking about this and don't know what in the Epstein things are just doing the Democrats bidding and they're distracting the American people from the great opportunity our generation has to fix our country and to fix the world. And he wants the American public to stay focused on the tariffs and the securing of the country. At one point he said, listen, if I find out who's behind the attacks on ice, who's coordinating this, who is behind George Floyd and the riots, I'm going to designate them a terrorist organization. That is a big proclamation here. He's thinking about big issues. I think he's frustrated by all the social media chatter from people who don't really know what's in the Epstein files. And he was very pointed about that. Let's stay focused on the things that matter to the American people. I'm not, hey, I want the answers to Epstein. Like everyone, he said, so let the prosecutor do that.
Steve Bannon
So he is, he's on board with the situation of getting a special prosecutor and having. And having the Epstein situation put into that so that can be formally looked.
Amanda Head
At legitimate and really in a criminal context. By this way, Steve, you know, I ask about the special, he immediately volunteers and then I follow up on it. But he immediately brings up Epstein, like, just throw that in. Let's get it all answered. I got nothing to hide. I want truth and I want prosecutions. And I, I just want the justice system to take care of what needs to be taken care of. It was really a remarkable moment.
Steve Bannon
Since you're, you're an expert in this. Tom Fenton, myself, Mike Davis, others have been discussing this about that because the courts have backed up President Trump's Article 2 powers. They have backed him up so far as commander in chief and what he's trying to do expel. They have backed him up in two historic rulings, one on the State Department and really USAID that part of it, and yesterday with the Department of Education, to say, do it. I think it's a huge tool, along with this special prosecutor in this criminal conspiracy investigation to really take down the deep, the deep state. But is he thinking of that the.
John Solomon
Special prosecutor, which we argue for, should.
Steve Bannon
Report to the office of the President? Are you saying you think he's going to say, hey, let Pam and doj, let him report to them?
Amanda Head
I think he'll use the mechanism that's currently in the law. Like he. Listen, what's really interesting about the President, he doesn't, unlike Joe Biden, who wanted his finger in the Dirty drink to go after Donald Trump, right? The White House, six, the National Archives. Donald Trump's like, I trust the system, I trust the people. I got in there to get this done. Sure, we made a few missteps here and there, but I believe we can do this in the current law and do it right without any politics, just with the facts and the evidence. And I just want the American people to have the truth and if someone committed a crime to be prosecuted, it's really remarkable how hands off the President is in terms of, I don't want to meddle with the system. I just know the right thing for the American people is transparency, accountability, and then let's shrink this government so it's not in our face anymore going forward.
Steve Bannon
John, last thing, you've been all over this, but this auto pen situation is actually, I think, deeper and, and actually more criminal. Anything I've ever seen, I think it's. This could be a Watergate level situation with the deep state. Do you believe that'll be handled? Do you think that'll be handled separately and DOJ will handle that? What do you think about this auto pen? That's just great question.
Amanda Head
One could argue. Yeah, I think one could argue that hiding Joe Biden's mental kind from the American people is another form of the conspiracy. Right? First you protect his son, then you protect his classified documents, and then you protect his mental decline. I would imagine that if Pam Bondi and the experts at the Justice Department sit down, they could get all of this, because it's one big continuum. It's one effort to use the government time and again to hide from the American people the truth, to use intelligence and law enforcement to punish political enemies. And I think the continuation of that is all the way through. Now, that's my personal opinion, that you look at Joe Biden's hiding in the switcheroo at the top of the ticket as the final act in the conspiracy. First you hide his corruption, then you hide his classified documents, then you hide his mental decline. I think it makes sense to have it all under one prosecutor. Give someone everyone in America can trust who's serious about the facts. Not going to carry out political vendettas, just carry out the law. I think you can solve all of this and we can move on to the people's business while that's going on and get this country fixed.
Steve Bannon
Last thing you know, Brennan's been on tv, but Weissman in that crowd on MSNBC are saying, hey, Solomon. And Fenton and Bannon are all wrong. At worst case, this is about lying to Congress, this perjury that the statute of limits has well passed any of this and these guys are just kicking up another conspiracy. Can you give me a technical answer on that for these? To these guys?
Amanda Head
You can go back and look at. And I brought multiple legal experts on. I had Bud Cummins, former U.S. attorney in Little Rock, on the show last night. You can go back and charge old crimes if you can show it as a continuation of an ongoing conspiracy. Now I'll take my reporting and its credibility over Andrew Weissman's statements over the last 10 years and any day or night I'll challenge a debate. I think I win that on facts. But listen, the real question is, does this rise to criminality? And I think you have to have a grand jury look at it and make the law assumption. All I know is that there's a predicated investigation that starts the process. We should apply the law, not hijack the law and let the experts do this. Get someone we can trust. That's the key thing. We don't trust government for a good reason. They've betrayed us for the last 25 years on over and over and over again. The 2008 gift at Jeffrey Epstein, the IRS targeting conservatives, the Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment. There's good reason to distrust the government. But if you get a transformational good figure that everybody can trust, we can get the truth and then we apply the law to that truth. I don't know whether there'll be charges made, but I do know the process is now in place to at least get to a real prosecutorial investigation and have the evidence that John Durham was deprived to show a jury. Imagine you're John Durham. You can't show him the Clinton intelligence. I mean, that's like the big smoking gun. And you can't show it to the grand jury because it stayed classified.
Steve Bannon
John, this is a blockbuster interview. Social media, where do people go? You're going to play it without commercial interruption tonight.
Amanda Head
We're going to follow you at 6:00'.
Steve Bannon
Clock.
Amanda Head
So that'll be the first shot. Yeah, 6:00 clock on TV, just the news, no noise. We'll follow your show then. Justinews.com will have about 8, 10 stories over the next hour. Amanda and I, who conducted the interview with me. And then Jay Solomon reports on all social media accounts. We'll have this ripped for the next couple of days. And by the way, we're going to put up a transcript. Unlike most news organizations, you can see every word that the President uttered.
Steve Bannon
John thank you so much. We'll start the Pre game at 5:30 on War Room. Sir. Thank you so much.
Amanda Head
Sounds great my friend. Thank you.
Steve Bannon
John Solomon with a blockbuster interview. Right first, first off, the President said has told John Solomon he's not going to fire Jerome Powell. That in itself would be a market mover. And what he said is that it may, it may. As much as President Trump is disappointed, he calls him to too late Jones or too late Powell. And President Trump is asking for or really says you should have a 300 basis point cut to a 300 basis point cut to, to interest rates. He's not going to remove him even though there's a massive investigation going on on the Taj Mah. If anybody hasn't been down in front of the, in front of the, in front of the, the Federal Reserve, it's.
John Solomon
Pretty shocking what's going on.
Steve Bannon
You've got to actually go by the, the building itself and see what they're doing. It is a new Versailles.
John Solomon
It's pretty shocking.
Steve Bannon
We want to do away with the Federal Reserve or at least cut it in half. Okay. We're still waiting for the Crown Prince of Bahrain. We're going to cover that. President Trump's going to be a presser. Charlie Kirk's going to follow us at 12. Some of that may take place from inside the Oval Office. President Trump probably going to do a presser or press a veil as it's called. Right there you see the honor guard ready. We're going to take a short commercial break. Going to return to the White House in a moment.
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Steve Bannon
We're going to go back to the shot. We're going to go back to the shot right now of Bahrain. So John Solomon already some controversy. I think one of the white. Some of this confusion. White House officials saying that he may actually fire Jay Powell and he's moving that told John Solomon he would not. John Solomon I think so I put out the clip from his interview on that John Solomon reiterate. They're going to do a. That the president thinks first time he's hearing about it. But the grand conspiracy investigation that's taking place by the FBI, this goes Back to Crossfire Hurricane. It goes back, I guess, before that to Hillary Clinton being exonerated. Crossfire Hurricane started immediately after that. So they're going to go back to the summer of 2016. They're going to go back also to the nullification project, which became the Mueller investigation. John Solomon agrees with me that that was all a coup attempt to try to remove President Trump from office. It was very evident what they were trying to do. They were trying to thwart President Trump initially and try to make sure that his entire presidency was questioned by Russian collusion, which is a total lie, as that was proven, that the Mueller investigation was done just to grind his administration down and get him to focus on that. Then later they threw out the phony, the perfect, the beautiful, perfect phone call with Zelensky. That's one of the reasons I've never trusted Zelensky for one second and would never trust Zelensky given what he did to President Trump in August of 2019 that led to the impeachment movement by Nancy Pelosi. That's because that's what they ran on the midterm elections in 2018 when they won, I forget, I don't know, 40, 50 seats, right? Took control of the House, made Nancy Pelosi the speaker. She was looking for the first opportunity to impeach Trump. That used the bogus situation about the arms to Ukraine is completely bogus in Zelensky. Good news was the formation of the show. I finally realized and said, hey, I've been thinking about this for a long time, but given the fact that nobody's talking really about the impeachment, this was in September when Pelosi came out. We started the show in late September at the 1st of August. War impeachment, even the White House at the time. And this may be, this may be pertinent till today when we first started war impeachment, John Franks, I originally saw in the John Fredericks Radio Network, I think John had a couple of stations in Richmond, my hometown, the Real America's Voice. Rob Sig and the guys jumped in. I think after we've been up like a week or five days, the White House said, no, that's all fake news. There's not going to be any impeachment. And I kept saying, I don't know if they're paying attention here, but they will impeach. The House, will impeach him by Thanksgiving. They'll turn over to the Senate, they'll have a trial. They won't be able to remove him. They don't have the votes, but it'll be done by Christmas. But to smear him, to kick off the 2020 campaign, now, I was wrong by about a month. I think. I think that they did impeach him. I think the final impeachment came before Christmas. They kicked it over to the. They kicked it over to the Senate. The Senate finally started getting involved in late January. We shifted to War and Pandemic. Cause once again, being ahead of the curve, we said, hey, something's happening in China. It's going to be a pretty big deal. You can see what the CCP is trying to do, trying to crush President Trump's reelection possibilities. They'll pull out anything, including a bioweapon from the Wuhan lab. So we shifted half the show to war on Pandemic. The other was war on impeachment. For those of you that go back that far with the show, we like being ahead of the curve. I think, according to John Solomon and the reporting he's doing on his interview with the President, the President fully supports this criminal conspiracy investigations going on by the FBI. He also supports, which a lot of people are talking about right now. He supports right now, people, maybe the announcement. He said he'd go along with it. That would be fine. First he's hearing about it, according to John Solomon's interview, is announcing a special counsel or special prosecutor, however you want to deem it. That would actually take over whatever the FBI is doing. You panel a grand jury and a criminal grand jury. This would be a criminal conspiracy, as John Solomon said, counter to what msnbc. And I think that they are hoping that it just. That the statute of limitations has washed away or made beyond reach their crimes. But if it's ongoing criminal conspiracy, you can, you can actually impanel a grand jury and go for it. Now it's a special prosecutor. And it's not just about perjury to the House members or the House committees, is actually far deeper than that. The Supreme Court is giving the President. Now we have two very powerful weapons to go after and take down the deep state. You have a criminal conspiracy investigation that looks like it might have a special counsel announced to take that over. The President also said, hey, fine, let's put the, let's put the, let's put the, the Epstein thing in there to make sure somebody can go through it and release the documents in some sort of formal capacity. So people make sure that it's been reviewed, it's been looked at. And what you're seeing is, is the accurate, what was proposed that's what we've been saying from, from the. The get go. The way to move the ball forward here and make sure that everybody's accommodated, particularly people who want to see the truth is, is that process. It looks like according to John Solomon's interview, that is exactly what's taking place. The Supreme Court has backed up the President, also his Article 2 power as chief executive to basically downsize these, the apparatus. And what's happened with the, the Supreme Court. What's happened with the Supreme Court is so important because the Supreme Court has come back and has backed the President of the United States in, in this situation of, is the situation of, of downsizing these departments. And there's not a better tool for going after the deep state than actually go in and start to take apart parts of the FBI, parts of the CIA, of the 17 different intelligence agencies that report to Tulsi Gabbard, do that. Part of the Defense Department, a Justice Department, all of it. This, this inner, this interconnectivity, this interconnection of the national security apparatus and the legal apparatus and the intelligence apparatus that combined. Okay, we've had a freeze on the thing. They're heading inside right now. I guess we're frozen on our camera shot. Okay, had a freeze up there anyway, the, the Crown Prince is there, the Prime Minister is there. We'll get a shot up here in a second. Had some, had some issues technologically. Not to, not to worry. John Solomon, John Solomon has gotten back to me. He's not firing pal. He's putting up the, he's putting up the quotes asap. And that's, that's where we stand. There we go right there. Have we blown the break or we got six. Okay, we've had a slight technical problem here in our remote studio. Want to make sure you get. There's a picture of the White House froze up.
John Solomon
A lot of news.
Steve Bannon
John Solomon just reports and maybe we can get John Solomon on phone to call in. I'll try that. Can you call. Okay, we're going to try to get John Solomon to call in. If we can. Please stop that, that reverberation I have in my, in my ear. Okay, big news this morning. John. John Solomon has said the President States is not going to fire Jerome Powell. It's in his interview. He's putting the clip up even as we speak. And if guys, we can grab that clip at real. America's voice would be fantastic. The Crown Prince of Bahrain and the Prime Minister are now in the White House. I think momentarily. Hopefully we'll be going to the president. Trump has made it open to the press. That normally means there's going to be a press avail and the president will probably be answering a host of questions. Like I said, just gave it a great interview with John Solomon. There's the color guard right there. Is that on delay? Because if he's already in, then they shouldn't be going to the okay, fine. Actually interesting way to leave, but there they are right there. So right now, like I said, it's going to be a press event with the president. We've had a, a show today that kind of walked you through the fundamentals. Number one, Richard Barris came on the polling. The president's polling on economics is stronger than ever. That's why yesterday saw Jane Zirkel up at the House and Jane Zirkel sitting there and talking to they made available the congressman finally, the congressman saying, hey, this is what positive about the big beautiful bill. This is some of the issues that I think we got to cover. Those issues all centered around virtually they centered around cutting spending. That's the important of the although it's symbolic, this, this bill that cuts, that cuts spending $9 billion particularly symbolically cuts NPR and it cuts PBS. So those organizations will essentially be out of money now. They have to look to private donors, as they should because it's basically a leftist organization with not just progressive news, but anti Trump, anti maga, consistent news that is historic in its, in its nature. And Russ Fot and the team have worked on that to dovetail what these congressmen are saying. You, you have to focus on the spending cuts and right now votes rescissions package has taken weeks and weeks and weeks to get through. I think two things you're going to see, particularly the fact that we're going to have a CR on midnight of the 30th because they can't get the appropriations bills done. So this audience has got to get yourself ready for that. You can have a number of rescissions. You can do pocket rescissions between now and September 30th and cut out huge swaths of the spending of the federal government or you can just impound the money.
John Solomon
Either of them work.
Steve Bannon
One of them is using Capitol Hill. The other is just using the innate power of the president to do it. Now, clearly they're going to try to sue and go to court on that. But I don't see how the courts have backed you on downsizing as they have of downsizing these, of downsizing the situation with downsizing, the situation at the State Department and downsizing the situation, particularly at the Department of Education. And we had Congressman Mark Harris on here on a two pronged attack that not only can President Trump. And they said last night, and Linda McMahon, secretary Linda McMahon said, hey, in the next couple of weeks, you're going to see a true deconstruction of the Department of Education. Simultaneously, the federal charter for the National Education Association. He's put up a bill with I think 28 co sponsors to essentially strip, to essentially strip the federal charter given in 1906 of NEA. Because NEA works like a PAC. Now, if you don't think the NEA is a political organization, watch what's happening on the street streets of New York City. I do not believe people have understood the power, the negative power of what they put together in New York City. Coming out of the schools, coming out of the universities, they've essentially turned the schools and universities into pacs. How was that done? A big part of it at the school level was done by the nea. So you have a two pronged approach on this. Most importantly, the takeaway for the Article 2 powers of the President. The courts are backing him up. This is why I think it's so important that this investigation go now. John wants to go more traditional. John's been around a lot longer than I have. I am with Tom Fenton 100% on this. And I think Mike Davis, that I would love for this to actually the special counsel to report directly to the office of the President. I think the courts hold that up. Once again, it's one of his Article 2 powers. Also, the Justice Department, the FBI are overwhelmed right now. And Pam's doing a great job on managing the various lawyers that are in court every day on the 100, what, 90 lawsuits against President Trump for his powers. Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. We finally got it organized here. This is great. Take a short commercial break. Home tide lock. $1 million triple lock protection. What does that mean? 24 hour coverage. If anybody messes with that piece of paper that guards 90% of your net worth, you're alerted immediately. And then there's a one million dollar restoration program if all else fails, with lawyers, accountants, advisors, all of it, $1 million. Go to hometitle lock.com promo code.
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Donald Trump
Fancy two titles. I want to say, I don't know if I'd rather be the Prime Minister or the Crown Prince. I think I'd take the crown prince and very importantly your son, your beautiful son who has a great reputation, you know.
Crown Prince of Bahrain
Thank you, Mr. President.
Donald Trump
Great reputation as a smart, hard working guy. So it's good to say hello to you. Congrats, congratulations. We've had a tremendous relationship, I have personally with Bahrain over the years and has been a fantastic ally. And anything they needed, we helped them. And anything we needed, they helped us. And we're going to be talking about a lot of different things, including the most perfect military maneuver that anybody's seen probably in 50, 50 years, which took place a few weeks ago. And Iran knocked out their entire potential nuclear capacity. And it was obliterated. You know, I used that term. They said, well, maybe that's too much. I said, no, it turned out it was more than obliterated. They can't go back. And we're just really going to talk about some things, including trade. We're going to be discussing trade. We do a lot of trading, meeting with Bahrain and we're going to have lunch after this. But we'll take some questions. First. I'd like to ask the Crown Prince to say a couple of words. And he's, he also has a father who's living and well and doing fantastically, as I understand it, he is, and somebody he's respected all over the Middle east and all over the world. And thank you very much for being here.
Crown Prince of Bahrain
Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you, thank you one and all. It is indeed a great honor to be here on this fine morning to put into action the relationship that exists between our two countries. We will be discussing security issues. We'll be discussing trade and investment, which is very important. We're very happy to be announcing $17 billion worth of deals that are coming to the United States.
Amanda Head
And this is real.
Crown Prince of Bahrain
This is a.
Donald Trump
It's real money.
Crown Prince of Bahrain
These aren't fake deals.
Donald Trump
These are real deals. They don't have to borrow the money.
Crown Prince of Bahrain
We don't have to borrow it. It's coming in. And it only builds upon a legacy that we're very proud of. We have had a relationship in the civil side between our two countries since 1893 and formally since 1948. So may it long continue and we look forward to many, many more years productive partnership. Thank you, Mr. President.
Donald Trump
We will have that.
Crown Prince of Bahrain
You honor us.
Donald Trump
We will have that indeed. Many good years. And I'd say right now is. Is your top year. And we appreciate the investment. It's a great. We left, as you know, Saudi Arabia. We were just there, Saudi Arabia. And we. Qatar was so great leaders, great. We had uae, we had a couple of other visits, but all great places. And we love left with $5.1 trillion of investment. And they all want to be investing in the United States. We have, I think, I think we have over $16 trillion of investment coming in, which is a record. And we're only a little bit into the year and let's say the first two months I sort of took it easy because we had to fix up the Oval Office. I had to vote my time to fix it. But now we had to fix up our country. So we have, I think everyone is saying we have the hottest country now anywhere in the world. We were dead a year ago. We are a dead country. And now we have the hottest country anywhere in the world. And it's a great honor to have you here.
Crown Prince of Bahrain
Thank you, Mr. President.
Donald Trump
Any questions?
Steve Bannon
Any comments on the developments in Syria at the moment?
Donald Trump
Well, I can comment. I think I'll ask Marco to say a few, few words on Syria.
Marco Rubio
Yeah, it's complicated. Obviously these are historic long time rivalries between different groups in the southwest of Syria, Bedouins, the Druze community. And it led to an unfortunate situation and a misunderstanding, it looks like, between the Israeli side and the Syrian side. So we've been engaged with them all morning long and all night long with both sides. And we think we're on our way towards a real de.
Steve Bannon
Escalation.
Marco Rubio
Escalation and then hopefully get back on track in helping Syria build a country and arriving at a situation there in the Middle east, that's far more stable. So in the next few hours, we hope to see some real progress to end what you've been seeing over the Last couple hours.
Press Reporter
Mr. President, Jerome Powell. Do you have plans or if you're back, considering firing Jerome Powell. And what's your justification if you're thinking about this?
Steve Bannon
To do this too late.
Donald Trump
He's always been too late, hence his nickname, too late. He should have cut interest rates a long time ago. Europe has cut him 10 times in the short period of time and we cut him none. The only time he cut him was just before the election to try and help Kamala or Biden, whoever the hell it was, because nobody really knew. Obviously that didn't work. But he tried to cut him for the Democrats. Kamala. And how did that work out? You'll tell me it didn't work out too well, did it? But he's, he's, I think he does a terrible job. He's costing us a lot of money and we fight through it. It's almost the country has become so successful that it doesn't have a big impact, but it does hurt people wanting to get a mortgage. People want to buy a house. He's a terrible, He's a terrible Fed chair. I was surprised he was appointed. I was surprised frankly that Biden put him in and extended him. But they did. So, no, we're not planning on doing anything. We're very concerned. He's doing a little renovation for 2.5 billion of the Fed building, a renovation. And they have close to 900 million dollar cost to overrun. And it's a shame, but the biggest cost to overrun is the cost to overrun for interest rates because we should be paying three points lower and we would save a trillion dollars a year in interest if that were the case. And all it is is the stroke of a pen. And that goes for his board too because his board is not doing the job because they should try and rein this guy in. So he's doing a lousy job. But no, I'm not talking about that. We get, fortunately we get to make a change in the next, what, eight months or so. And we'll pick somebody that's good and we'll pick somebody. I just want a fair job. We want to see lower interest rates. Our country deserves it. We're making a lot of money. We're doing great as a country. We have no inflation record, stock market record, business record, everything. Everything is a record now. We had the worst inflation in history under Biden and now we have almost no inflation. We've done a great job and we should have the interest rates cut.
Press Reporter
So you're saying the other day that Scott Bessen, you're so happy with him at treasury that you know he's not your top option to replace Jerome Powell, whenever that may be, whenever you decide what you want to do with him.
Donald Trump
Scott is doing a very good job. I'm very happy with.
Press Reporter
Is Kevin Hassett right on the top of your list?
Donald Trump
Kevin is somebody with consideration. Kevin is fantastic, too. We have a lot of good people for that job. It's not a tough job, to be honest, assuming you're smart. It's not a tough job if you're a dummy, then I guess it's a tough job. But it might be one of the easiest jobs I've ever seen. And now, on top of it, he's building a close to $3 billion little nest egg for himself. He's. He's not doing the right job. We should be saving a trillion dollars a year on interest. You know, when he talks about cost, we should be saving, Think of it, a trillion dollars a year. Add that with the tariffs and everything else. But he just doesn't want. He's a, He's a knucklehead. But we'll see how that. We'll see how he's listening to this. That's a strange conversation, but, you know, we like to say it like it is, but we have a lot of people.
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Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room
Episode Title: Will Powell Keep His Job; Trump Meets With Crown Prince Of Bahrain
Host/Author: WarRoom.org
Release Date: July 16, 2025
In Episode 4636 of Bannon's War Room, host Stephen K. Bannon delves into significant political and economic developments impacting the United States. The episode primarily focuses on the ongoing status of Jerome Powell, Chairman of the Federal Reserve, and President Donald Trump's high-profile meeting with the Crown Prince of Bahrain. Additionally, the discussion navigates through the complexities of the so-called "Deep State" and the anticipated appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate alleged political conspiracies.
A central theme of the episode is the uncertainty surrounding Jerome Powell’s position as the Federal Reserve Chair. Bannon discusses recent statements made by President Trump regarding Powell’s performance and potential removal.
Bannon and guest Amanda Head analyze President Trump's dissatisfaction with Powell, emphasizing Trump's belief that Powell's decisions have adversely affected the economy by not lowering interest rates sooner.
Despite vocal criticisms, Trump indicates he does not plan to immediately fire Powell, citing concerns over market stability.
The episode covers President Trump's bilateral meeting with the Crown Prince and Prime Minister of Bahrain, focusing on military and trade discussions.
Donald Trump [48:01]: "We're going to be talking about a lot of different things, including the most perfect military maneuver that anybody's seen probably in 50 years."
Crown Prince of Bahrain [49:49]: "We are very happy to be announcing $17 billion worth of deals that are coming to the United States."
The conversation underscores the strategic alliance between the U.S. and Bahrain, highlighting significant arms sales and investment deals aimed at strengthening economic and military ties.
A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the alleged "grand conspiracy" orchestrated by the Deep State to undermine President Trump. Bannon and his guests explore the historical context of these claims, tracing them back to events like the Clinton email investigation and the Trump-Russia collusion narrative.
Steve Bannon [03:52]: "This whole issue ties together with Mike Davis and everything we said about the Article 2 powers."
Amanda Head [15:17]: "The President's concept of this government is to downsize this... If someone committed a crime to be prosecuted, it's really remarkable how hands off the President is in terms of, I don't want to meddle with the system."
They advocate for the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate these deep-seated political maneuvers, with a particular focus on the Epstein files and other sensitive matters.
Bannon discusses the current economic climate, highlighting positive polling data and the administration's focus on tariffs and trade deals to bolster the economy.
Brian Glenn [08:09]: "The PPI numbers that came out early today, much lower than expected. That is good news."
Steve Bannon [07:55]: "The economic message of President Trump, particularly with real wage growth, what's happening on tariffs, that is why you were with him yesterday in Pittsburgh."
The conversation emphasizes the administration's efforts to achieve a balanced budget through tariff revenues, spending cuts, and judicial support for executive actions.
A pivotal moment in the episode revolves around President Trump's support for a special prosecutor to investigate the Deep State and the Epstein-related allegations.
Amanda Head [17:51]: "He is open to a special prosecutor and he said that special prosecutor should just take a look at Epstein and make sure there's nothing there to give the American public a little more latitude."
Steve Bannon [22:24]: "The Supreme Court has backed up the President... there's not a better tool for going after the deep state than actually go in and start to take apart parts of the FBI, parts of the CIA."
This segment underscores the administration's commitment to transparency and accountability, positioning the special prosecutor as a means to dismantle entrenched political opposition.
Towards the end of the episode, Bannon reflects on historical political maneuvers and anticipates future legislative actions, such as spending cuts and the potential impoundment of funds.
The discussion concludes with a reaffirmation of the administration's strategies to maintain political control and economic stability, despite ongoing challenges and investigations.
Episode 4636 of Bannon's War Room provides listeners with an in-depth exploration of the current political landscape, focusing on high-stakes interactions between President Trump and international leaders, internal government dynamics, and the broader narrative of a struggle against the Deep State. Through detailed discussions and exclusive insights from key figures like John Solomon, the episode offers a comprehensive look at the strategies aimed at reshaping America's political and economic future.