Episode 4640: Former VOA Employee Indicted for Threatening The Life Of MTG

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room – Episode 4640: Former VOA Employee Indicted for Threatening The Life Of MTG

Release Date: July 17, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Description: "War Room" is a comprehensive news program hosted by Stephen K. Bannon, featuring medical experts, politicians, business leaders, and frontline reporters to provide up-to-the-minute insights on current events.

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1. Introduction and Breaking News [00:00 – 02:03]

Stephen K. Bannon opens the episode with a strong condemnation of mainstream media, stating, “Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people” (00:02). He emphasizes the intent to shed light on critical issues overlooked by mainstream outlets.

Key Announcement:

• Indictment of Seth Jason: A former Voice of America (VOA) employee, Seth Jason, has been arrested and indicted for making threatening phone calls to Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene over a 15-month period. These threats included intentions to kidnap and kill MTG, her staff, and their families.

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2. In-Depth Discussion with Marjorie Taylor Greene [02:03 – 14:02]

Marjorie Taylor Greene provides detailed insights into the indictment:

• Nature of Threats: Seth Jason used VOA's phone lines to issue death threats to MTG and her personnel.
• Timeline: The threats commenced in October 2023 during the Biden administration and ceased the day after President Trump’s inauguration (02:27).
• Employment Impact: Jason, a longtime VOA employee, was part of a significant downsizing at the agency, resulting in an 85% reduction in workforce.

Notable Quotes:

• MTG: “This is somebody who is a technician and understands that there’s a lot of phones in a newsroom... If he is found guilty... It's shocking” (05:08).
• MTG on Media Bias: “We've seen so much hatred towards conservatives coming from the mainstream media... It tells you the state of the American newsroom in 2025” (07:26).

Key Points Highlighted:

• Security Lapses: Concerns about how a single employee could make such threats undetected over a long period.
• Bias in Media: MTG criticizes the media's bias against conservatives, suggesting it fosters an environment where such threats can occur.
• Organizational Response: The VOA has terminated Seth Jason and severed his ties with the organization.

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3. Host’s Commentary and Further Insights [14:02 – 29:48]

Stephen K. Bannon delves deeper into the implications of the indictment:

• Government Oversight: Questions the effectiveness of oversight within VOA that allowed prolonged threats.
• Call to Action: Advocates for aggressive measures to purge perceived radical elements within government institutions.

Notable Statements:

• Bannon: “We need to purge these people. Loomer’s correct. Many of them are guilty of treason” (48:10).
• Bannon on Security: “How do you terrorize a city, Congressman? Threaten their staff, threaten her family...”

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4. Political Commentary and Related News [29:48 – 51:32]

The episode transitions to broader political issues:

• Release of Peter Navarro: Former Trump advisor Peter Navarro is released from a four-month prison sentence for contempt of Congress. Navarro criticizes the DOJ and emphasizes the politicization of the justice system.

Notable Quotes:

• Navarro: “Joe Biden and his Department of Injustice put me there tonight... If we don't control all three branches of our government... they will put some of us, like me and Steve Bannon, in prison” (32:08).
• Bannon: “He went to prison so you won't have to” (40:22).

Key Discussions:

• Weaponization of Justice System: Both Bannon and Navarro argue that the DOJ and other governmental bodies are politicized against conservatives.
• Call for Action: Emphasis on purging the “deep state” and implementing strict loyalty and purity tests within government agencies.

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5. Advertisements and Promotions [14:02 – 45:58]

Throughout the episode, Bannon incorporates multiple advertisements, promoting services such as:

• Birch Gold Group: Encourages listeners to diversify investments into precious metals.
• Home Title Lock: Warns about AI and cyber threats targeting home titles.
• Done With Debt: Offers strategies to eliminate personal debt.

These segments are interspersed between discussions, maintaining the show's focus on current political and social issues.

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6. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Events [45:58 – End]

Peter Navarro returns to discuss his experiences post-incarceration and future plans:

• Book Release: Navarro mentions his upcoming book, “I Went to Prison So You Won't Have To,” co-authored with his fiancée, detailing his prison experience and exposing perceived injustices within the U.S. prison system.
• Future Advocacy: Plans to continue advocating against what he terms the “weaponization of government” and holding officials accountable.

Stephen K. Bannon concludes by reinforcing the episode’s themes:

• Deep State Purge: Urges immediate action against government officials deemed untrustworthy or hostile to conservative values.
• Call for Vigilance: Emphasizes the need for citizens to actively participate in combating perceived governmental overreach.

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Conclusion

Episode 4640 of "Bannon's War Room" centers on the indictment of a former VOA employee for making threats against Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, highlighting concerns over media bias and governmental oversight. The discussion expands to include broader political issues, such as the release of Peter Navarro and critiques of the DOJ. Throughout, the episode blends investigative commentary with promotional content, urging listeners to remain vigilant and proactive in addressing perceived threats to conservative ideals.

Notable Quotes:

• Stephen K. Bannon: “We’ve been called a lot of names over the years...”
• Marjorie Taylor Greene: “This goes to the heart of some of the deep problems in the media...”

Timestamp Highlights:

• 00:02: Bannon's opening remarks criticizing the media.
• 02:03: MTG discusses the indictment and its implications.
• 05:08: MTG questions VOA's oversight mechanisms.
• 32:08: Navarro discusses his imprisonment and systemic issues.
• 40:22: Bannon praises Navarro's book and shared experiences.

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This summary aims to provide a comprehensive overview of the episode for those who have not listened, capturing all essential discussions, insights, and conclusions presented by the hosts and guests.

Transcript

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Kerry Lake]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band. It's Thursday the 17th of July, year of alert 2025. The show that we were going to have, we had to junk just moments ago. A press release. I want to read. A Voice of America employee, Seth Jason, has been arrested and indicted for threatening Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene to assassinate Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, using phones at the VOA studios to threaten Greene and her staff. The phone calls came from inside the Voice of America studios and control room where threats were made to the district offices of Congressman green over a 15 month period. The indictment says the Voice of American employee threatened to kidnap and use firearms to kill Congressman Green, her staff and their families. The call started during the Biden administration in October of 2023, with the last call coming the day after President Trump was inaugurated. Seth Jason, the VOA employee is going to face a judge, I guess, late this afternoon or maybe even as we speak. If convicted, he could face nearly 20 years in a federal prison. Kerry Lake, the head of Voice of America, joins us. Kerry, what is going on here?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Ma', am, it's incredibly disturbing. I've known about this investigation for over a month, but have had to pretty much keep some of the details quiet while they worked on the investigation because the goal was to arrest a dangerous person and, and take them off the streets. And the arrest came, it looks like, early this morning. It was a VOA employee, Seth Jason. He's charged with a series of federal charges, including influencing a federal official by threatening a family member, influencing a federal official by threat interstate communications with a threat to kidnap or injure and anonymous telecommunications harassment. Those combined come with 27 years behind bars if he is found guilty. These are allegations, right? But we became aware of this a couple of months ago when the Capitol Police showed up at the VOA headquarters and mentioned that there had been threats that had come from the phone lines at Voice of America over about a 15 month period from October of 2024 right up until January 21st. January 21st, the day after President Trump was inaugurated, threatening phone calls that were going, according to the U.S. attorney's office, to Marjorie Taylor Greene's home office, which is in Georgia, threatening the people who worked with Marjorie Taylor Greene, the congressman from Georgia, threatening her, threatened death threats and including threatening their families as well. Now, the, the indictment names Seth Jason, a longtime employee at Voice of America. He has been relieved and let go. Of course, we're downsizing at that agency. 85% of the workforce since I got there has been eliminated or told they will be turn terminated. He's one of them. And I believe he is now in police custody, if he hasn't already appeared before a judge. He will be appearing before a judge in the coming hours today.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay. It says in the release it was October of 2023, not 24. Is that, do you have later information?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I, I got that wrong.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

October 23rd.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Yes.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's my question. We know that, yeah, we know you've gone in to drop the hammer over there and to downsize the place and to get all the people that hate America out of there. But where's the supervision when you have a guy that's making death threats to a congressman's office? Were there any controls on this place? Particularly when they says it came from the control room, the phone calls came from the control room. I mean, like what was. And it stopped immediately upon President Trump taking office. And you guys going over there, what, what was this place like? How was it run before you got there? I mean, how's a guy for what, a year and a half, right? Almost two years, sit there and make death threats about not just, not just her, but her family, her employees and their families? Ma'? Am.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Well, this is somebody who is a technician and understands that, you know, there's a lot of phones in a newsroom and there's, there's many newsrooms at Voice of America. And I'm assuming that he understood which phones were directly connected to an employee and which ones weren't. When you have phone lines in studios and in control rooms where dozens of people show up every day and that phone line is not directly connected to one employee, it would be easier to make threatening phone calls if indeed. And he is found guilty of such allegations. So this is a person who knew about where the phone lines that would be connected and tied to an individual and ones that are more for use with the general staff. And looks like those threatening calls, death threats, mind you, to a sitting member of Congress, were made out of Voice of America. Now, let's. Let's just take a step back here and look at the bias in the media that we've seen for so long. And the bias has leaned in one direction. When I was asked about this during my congressional hearing about three weeks ago, I mentioned in my opening remarks that I had recently learned that Voice of America had become the scene of a crime, according to Capitol Police, and that I was very disturbed to hear that threatening phone calls had been made to a sitting member of Congress. None of the Democrats on that committee asked me any questions about it. It was Chairman Mast who said, wait a minute. Tell me more about that. You're telling me that somebody who works at Voice of America made threatening phone calls to a member of Congress? He was the only one interested in getting more information, to which time I told him what I knew about it. And he said, may I ask, were they threatening a Democrat or a Republican? And I said, well, I'll let you guess based on what you've heard. We've seen so much hatred towards conservatives coming from the mainstream media, coming from the media in general, and that somebody would feel so emboldened that they would make phone calls. If this turns out to be true and a conviction is made against this man, that he would feel so emboldened that he felt comfortable enough to do that from inside of a newsroom is shocking. It tells you the state of the American newsroom in 2025.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

He was someone you'd already designated was going to be part of the downsizing.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Yes. He'd been on administrative leave, and I understand that he had been given a notice for reduct. So he's not. He's not working in the building right now. He was arrested, it looks like potentially from his home, but I'm not sure he was arrested in Maryland. Now, here is a real shocker that I learned in reading through some of the information I've got. He was a reserve. A volunteer reserve officer for the Anne Arundel, and I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly, county police. So he was a reserve officer, a volunteer reserve officer. They have now announced that he is no longer with them. They've terminated their, you know, his. His volunteership with their police force. So this is a guy who worked at Voice of America, was a volun volunteering at a, you know, a county police facility, and according to this indictment, was making death threats to a sitting member of Congress and Her staff and their families. Can you imagine the horror of these people who have to work and sit in this office where they're getting death threats made against them, threatening kidnapping and death with. By using a gun.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Has in your investigation. And maybe you can't tell us this because in your investigation, have you found out what other employees, if any, knew about it and are actually accessories after the fact?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

What I can tell you is that when Capitol Police came in, they had a recording of the. Of the phone calls that were made, and they initially played them to a member who works in our security who did not know or recognize the voice because this member of our security hadn't been there long enough to really get to know the employees. Now, mind you, the vast majority of people who work at Voice of America, many of them, English is their second language. Some don't even speak English. And so many of the employees, when they do speak English, they have accents. This was a very much sounding and English speaking, very much American. It sounded like an American employee. And so the member of security sent the Capitol Police over to other members of our staff who'd been there for a long time who were able to identify the voice and at least steer them in the right direction for who this could be. And I think possibly using records of when people clock in and clock out, they were able to pinpoint who they should arrest in this case.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Not that the Capitol Hill police don't have a record for being the cutting edge of investigations, but did the FBI take this over? I mean, the charges there are. Doesn't sound like the most serious charges, which he threatened to assassinate a federal official, a sitting member of Congress. Did the FBI take over this investigation? Have you dealt directly with the FBI on this?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Not that I know of. I have been in contact with U.S. attorney Jeanine Pirro. Judge Jeanine we all know and love, and I made her aware of this. She was aware of it, but I had inquired about it, saying, is there going to be any movement on this case? Just a couple of days ago, and then had some contact with her briefly today where she let me know that the indictment was being unsealed and that an arrest had been made. So that's what tipped me off, that the arrest had happened. I informed Congresswoman Green that the arrest had happened, and she was very relieved, as you can imagine. She gets a lot of hatred from the left, unfortunately, for doing her job and representing the people of her district. I'm going to be addressing the media here tonight. I believe I have to double check the time at 7 o' clock up at the Capitol. And at this time, Congresswoman Greene plans to join me or we will do a press conference and address some of the, the persistent threats that she's received and then the horror to find out that the American taxpayer paid the salaries of the people who work at VOA. Their salaries come 100% from the American taxpayer. And if convicted, and if these charges hold and stick and are true, this man would have been making these threatening calls, threatening the lives of a congresswoman and her team from phone lines that are paid for by the American taxpayer. It goes to the heart of, of some of the deep problems in the media, some of the heavy bias in the media. And now it's moving beyond bias. We're seeing it with other outlets as well. Downright hatred, downright hatred for anybody who is America first, who supports President Trump. It's just appalling and it's got to stop. You know, we've been called a lot of names over the years. We certainly have. But it seems like when we're looking at some of the domestic terrorism, it seems to be coming from one side really aimed at, toward people who are conservative. And it's got to stop. It's absolutely wrong. And I hope that if convicted with the sentence which comes with about 27 years behind bars, that the judge throws the book at this person. We need to show people that when you do something like this, when you make threats, when you threaten to assassinate somebody, you will face the harshest sentence possible. And I'd like to see this happen in this case to show that we will not stand for this anymore. We're done. We're sick and tired of it. We're sick and tired of the threats and they're coming primarily from one side aimed toward us.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, we're going to Grace and mo. We're going to live stream the Press event at 7pm at the Capitol with Kerry Lake ahead of VOA and Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene. Marjorie Taylor, text me and try to get her by phone, but she's going to be at the, at the press conference. We will do that live here and I will be able to give observations and commentary and I think we'll deploy Jane Zerkel there. Kerry Lake, your social media, by the way, almost a year to the day of the assassination attempt on President Trump and you saw today Cory Booker and these out of control senators caused a huge ruckus in the Senate about Emma Bovey, one of the best people we've ever put up for a appellate judgeship. So Carrie, what is your social media so people can follow you?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Ma', am, you can follow me at Carrie Lake on Twitter. I'm over at Truth Social, Facebook, I'm on Getter and Instagram as well. And we'll have much more information at 7 o'clock tonight. Thank you, Steve.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you, ma'. Am. Appreciate you. You notice during Ray's time, I mean, how does this go on for a year and a half? How do you terrorize a city, Congressman? Threaten their staff, threaten her family, the staff and their families? This and we had, we had Loomer on this morning. She talked about a purge. These are the types of guys that should have been purged on day one. You need a purge of this government. You need to purge out immediately these radicals, these, these violent people. The people want to do violence right now. These are interesting charges, but not nearly what he should be charged with. Judge Jeanine I'm sure will take care of that. Short break. We'll continue on in the war in a moment. This July there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. The block of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Persia are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio reset. As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollar and your savings. While this transition won't not happen overnight, but trust me, it's going to start in Rio. The Rio Reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality. Learn if diversify your savings into gold is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard earned savings into a tax sheltered IRA and precious metals claim. Your free info kit on gold by texting my name Bannon. That's B A N N o N to 989-898 with an A plus rating with the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers led Birchgold army with a free no obligation info kit on owning gold before July and the Rio reset. Text Bannon. B A N N O N 298-9898. Do it today. That's the Rio reset. Text Bannon at 989-898 and do it today. War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, this is exactly what we talked about this morning in Kerry Lake. It's just got to connect with the FBI on this, the Capitol Hill police. You saw those guys action and they have Capitol Hill police have some very, very, very good people. I don't want to paint a broad brush, but I'm painting with a broad brush. I mean, they come by the war room all the time. It's very good. But this is a very serious allegation, and it went over a long period of time, so it was thought through. And he did this to terrorize people, to terrorize the staff in the office. We've got to crush this. I agree with Loomer. I recommend Loomer should head a committee, a working group. How about this? Loomer, they sign her up as an sge, don't pay her. Still does her shtick on the outside. She heads up a committee to purge the government of these nefarious characters, these reprobates, which the place is full of. And she can do it. She'll go through a vetting. How many people, you think over VOA knew about this and were laughing behind the scenes at how cute that was? They're all accessories after the fact. I'm looking for indictments on another dozen. The Voice of America was a nest of vipers. The Mandarin language was a nest of spies, agents of influence and vipers. The VOA is a nest of vipers. A guy sat in a control room and over a year and a half period, and you notice he knocked it off when Trump came because he realized the new sheriff's in town. Over a year and a half terrorized people and nothing was done about it. How could that possibly be? How could it possibly be? I want to play the call today was an. And right now on the Hill. Kerry just texted me. I don't think that Grumby would have the 7 o' clock press conference because right now there's a kind of a donnybrook going up on the Hill in the House about votes, not votes. Genius act, the Epstein situation. So it's a total throwdown there. So I don't think they have the ability to actually have a press conference. And I think the press, the Capitol Hill press, is all over what's happening in the House. Let's go. We have a cold open and you'll see some of kind of the mayhem. And I'll start with my favorite, amnesty. Let's go ahead and play the cold open that we had for this afternoon. And I'll jump in.

[Unnamed GOP Congressman]

President promised that the illegals who are criminals were going to be kicked out of the country. Now there is another mass of people who, most of them are Hispanics who have been here for more than five Years they have been contributing to the economy who do not have a criminal record. And those people are the ones who deserve some type of dignity. And for that reason I'm introducing today. So I thank you for the opportunity. Immigration reform. A GOP member of Congress is going to be trying to give dignity, not amnesty, to those people who deserve to stay and contribute, continue contributing to our economy.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So what does that bill mean? Because you know, there's a lot of people that understand that point of view, that you want people to have dignity in the country, but they broke the law coming into the country and so they don't want a war to happen. What does your bill do?

[Unnamed GOP Congressman]

And I think that's a fantastic question. They did break the law. They are illegal or undocumented, but they have been here for more than five years contributing to the economy. Those people, someone gave them a job and they are needed because we need hands in order to continue being the number one economy in the world. So why don't we do something Solomonic and let's break the baby into two. No path to citizenship in my law. No amnesty, no path ever. Just bring them out of the shadows, make them pay a fine for seven years, that is billions of dollars to the Treasury. Make them give us 1% of their salary over seven years. No federal programs, no health insurance. And then they can go back home for Christmas. They can come back, continue working, buying homes, paying taxes and contributing to the economy. Because the reality is that the President said it, that there are three main industries, construction, hospitality and agricultural, who need hands. And those hands are there. Why don't we just make this transparent and that's it. And that's introduced today.

[Unnamed Democratic Senator]

This is a violation of the precedence of this committee. We're not trying some stunt here. We just want to be heard before a controversial vote, sir.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is wrong and you know it.

[Unnamed Democratic Senator]

This is an abuse of power. It's an undermining of the well being and the integrity of this Senate and this committee that I, for so long I've been so honored to be a part of.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I.

[Unnamed Democratic Senator]

This is wrong, sir. And I joined with my colleagues in leaving.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is a majority vote.

[Peter Navarro]

This is wrong.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

We'll report better than this on.

[Kerry Lake]

It's shocking that you have somebody who is President Trump's former defense lawyer who had a very controversial history. We heard from Senator Booker failing to disclose evidence when he was a prosecutor and now he's been involved in all of these controversies that doj, a whistleblower coming forward to say Beauvais wanted the Department of justice to consider f the courts. That's not what we want from a federal judge. We should hear from that whistleblower. That's why the senators are so upset. Beauvais, in one of the cases that I'm working on at the Democracy Defenders Fund, seems to have been involved in targeting and even terminating FBI and DOJ personnel who worked on January 6th. They did nothing wrong. So for all of these reasons, we should hear from that whistleblower. No wonder the Democrats are upset. And it will be very interesting. They've put an exclamation point on their concern about him. It will be very interesting to see if the parliamentarian rules that this nomination cannot move forward for now.

[Laura Loomer]

We saw the intel agencies get weaponized against President Trump. And I don't understand why the media had to, you know, go in another OCD meltdown. Oh my God. Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer, Laura Loomer. They're just, you know, they're so obsessed with every single time I put out a report referring for somebody to be fired. Well, my question is how come the Biden holdovers and the Obama holdovers are still in the administration? We saw that they weaponized the intel agencies. They spied on Donald Trump. This is not a conspiracy theory. This is a fact. Crossfire Hurricane. I mean, hello. Why would you want anybody who has an allegiance to Joe Biden or Barack Hussein Obama serving in this administration or anybody who passed their so called vetting? We know that in order to work for Biden or Obama, you had to hate Trump or you had to hate Republicans. You have to hate this country. I wouldn't say that any of the people that work for them in senior intel or national security positions love this country. Cuz if they had any concern or regard for our national security, they would have told Joe Biden to close the damn border and to not allow 25 million criminal illegal aliens, many of whom are criminal wanted Islamic jihadist terrorists on the national terror watch list to come into our country. So these people never spoke out about the national security threat that Joe Biden was creating for our country. So of course they should be fired. They are unfit. Anybody who has any sympathy to Joe Biden or has any type of allegiance to the Obama administration or the Biden administration should absolutely be turned terminated. We need to have loyalty tests. There needs to be purity tests in this administration. Obama did it, Biden did it. They fired everybody who worked for Trump because of J6, if you recall. Why can't Trump have loyalty tests and purity tests? Why not? Every other administration has purity tests. Why can't Trump have a purity test?

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

I mean, quickly, though, if you will, Norm, if they do move forward, if.

[Unnamed Analyst]

He gets confirmed, Jeanine Pirro gets confirmed, what do you see as the stakes, Norm?

[Kerry Lake]

Well, it's high stakes for our democracy on it because we know from studying.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Others, it's high stakes for your democracy. You get guys like Desi Amron. You saw Cory Booker. We didn't play the long version. Played that this morning. He loses it on Grassley. These people are violent people. They're going to fight you for everything you try to do. The Capitol Hill police. Think about the Capitol Hill police. The Capitol Hill police hate MTG more than anybody. Why? It was MTG that courageously went down to the gulag and called him out. Remember, she went to the D.C. jail and they went crazy to see the horrible conditions of the J6 prisoners. And the first time really that. That she promoted it, when they were. They would say the national anthem and then sing at night. Remember that? That was all. That was all mtg. Gates went down there, Louie Gomer went down there, others went down there. She was the first to do it. They hate her. As the engine room, One of our legal engine rooms tells us they should take every computer at voa. They should take everything. Hey, are you telling me the guy did this for a year and a half in an organization that hates Trump and never thought we'd come back and there are 20, 30, 40 people didn't know it and laughing about it? You convinced me of that. I don't believe that until every person is brought in and questioned under the lights, right? I don't believe it. It's not going to stop until you make it stop. This is my issue with the whole FBI report. And why are we not getting the full report on the shooter? Why is the shooter's father, who gave him the gun, and the kid was clearly not with the program. Why is the shooter fire father not indicted as an accessory? We don't know anything about the family. Don't know anything about the shooter. Nothing. Officials come out, you get these dribs and drabs from people that do their own investigations. Laura Loomer, she's a tough. She's a tough cookie. Why not put her in of a working group right now and purge them all and let Norm in this crowd over here, let them whine, but purge all these people. Purge them. Get them off the government payroll. The Supreme Court just told you, hey, you can do. You can do mass deportations outside government agencies. So let's mass deport these people. Let's go through the records and I agree with you. You ought to sit down and interview them. If they got attitude, boom, you're gone. We don't need it. We don't have time for it. A guy over a two year period uses a phone from inside the control room to essentially terrorize a female congressman, her family, the staff, their families. And you have the Capitol Hill police, which are lovely people, but I want to bring in some real people and have an expanded investigation immediately about all the accessories after the facts and knew about it, never told anybody. You're telling me this went on for two years and no one at VOA knew about it and should have gone and turned this guy in immediately? No, they're all laughing about it. Isn't this great? You're getting mtg, you're getting the crazy one and the Capitol Hill police, how long they sit on it because they hate her. She's the one that she was the one had the stones to go down to the Gulag and expose them and all of it. They're going to come after the best. Just remember that. They're coming after the best and they're coming after the toughest. They want to take them out. Short commercial break Back in the World Take your phone out. Birchgold Tax Bannon at 989-898 get the ultimate guide which happens to be free to investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Now more than ever, you need to understand it. If you're a homeowner, you need to listen to this. In today's AI and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles with more ease than ever and your equity is the target. Here's how it works. Criminals forge your signature on one document, use a fake notary stamp, pay small fee with your county and boom, your home title has been transferred out of your name. Then they take out loans using your equity or even sell your property. You won't even know it's happened until you get a collection or foreclosure notice. So let me ask you, when was the last time you personally checked your home title? If you're like me, the answer is never. And that's exactly what scammers are counting on. That's why I trust home title lock. Use promo code [e-mail] to make sure your title is still in your name. You also get a free title history report plus a free 14 day trial of their million dollar triple lock protection. That's 24,7 monitoring of your title, urgent alerts to any changes. And if fraud should happen, they'll spend up to $1 million to fix it. Go to hometitle lock.com now. Use promo code Steve. That's hometitle lock.com promo code Steve. Do it.

[Kerry Lake]

Today we do have breaking news. Former Trump White House adviser Peter Navarro has been released from prison. He'd been serving his sentence for contempt of Congress. CNN senior crime adjuster reporter Kaitlyn Polantz is with us now with the details. Caitlin, what are you learning?

[Unnamed Analyst]

John, Peter Navarro is out of prison after spending four months at a prison camp in Miami. This is a former Trump White House adviser who had written in a book, spoken publicly about his interest in helping Trump overturn the election results. And then when Congress subpoenaed him to testify and to provide records, he blew him off. He didn't do it. And so he was prosecuted. He was convicted by a jury, and he was sent to prison for contempt of Congress. He always said that he believed Trump didn't want him to share the information with Congress. And since then, he has positioned himself. Since his conviction, he was positioning himself as essentially a martyr for Trump, a person who was caught in this overreach of Congress. He is now traveling to Milwaukee, or at least we expect, expect him to show up in Milwaukee after leaving that prison in Miami today so that he can speak at the Republican Convention and further discuss this issue that he has been caught up in, he says, this issue of separation of powers and Congress and people going after Donald Trump and others. But I have spoken to his prison consultant several times about what it was like for Peter Navarro in prison. And he did do his time, all four months of it. He worked as a law library clerk. And from what I have heard, other inmates would high five him. He was quite liked inside.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Well, you know, as a person, I.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Wish it was four years instead of four months.

[Unnamed Analyst]

But it is always heartening to see the system work and to see someone.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Who has worn a suit and tie to work forever and has been in.

[Unnamed Analyst]

The halls of power be held accountable for refusing.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

You know, I wish more people had.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Been charged with contempt of Congress.

[Unnamed Analyst]

I understand why they weren't, but Congress.

[Marjorie Taylor Greene]

Has to work on oversight.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

This is a beautiful thing.

[Peter Navarro]

I think you just, Yeah, I think you folks just want to know if you can see my MAGA tattoo I got there. Yes, indeed. This morning I did walk out of the federal prison.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

In Miami.

[Peter Navarro]

Joe Biden and his Department of Injustice put me there tonight. I'm here with you in this Beautiful city of Milwaukee. I got a very simple message for you. If they can come for me.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

If.

[Peter Navarro]

They can come for Donald Trump. Be careful. They will come for you. If we don't control our government, their government will control us. If we don't control all three branches of our government, legislative, executive and judicial, their government will put some of us, like me and Steve Bannon in prison and control the rest of us. Here's how it went. Here's how I got in prison. The legislative branch came for me first. Your favorite Democrat, Nancy Pelosi.

[Kerry Lake]

Created your.

[Peter Navarro]

Favorite committee, the sham January 6 committee, which demanded that I violate executive privilege. What did I do? I refused. The J6 committee demanded that I betray Donald John Trump to save my own skin. I refused. Here's the thing about the Constitution. They demanded that I break the law because they have no respect for it. I refused. And a Democrat majority in the House then voted to hold me in contempt. All right, what happened next? The next jackboot to drop was the executive branch. Another one of your favorite Democrats, Democrat Attorney General Merrick Garland. There's a winner. Him and Jack Smith indicted and prosecuted me for criminal contempt of Congress. Now, here's what's weird about it. It's something that Democrat prosecutors refused to do against one of their own, including two guys with blood on their hands, Eric Holder and Alejandro Mayorkas, the great border czar. Right. They've actually gotten people killed for decades. For decades. The Department of Injustice right now, the Department of Justice policy stated. Hear me out on this. If Congress slaps a subpoena on a.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, okay. That was one year ago today. Dr. Peter Navarro walked out of a federal prison and got to Milwaukee and walked on the main stage and gave a blockbuster speech. Dr. Navarro joins us. Dr. Navarro, on a day that we are talking about. We haven't. We're not on top of things. Of purging the permanent administrative state, breaking it apart, and purging the deep state of these nefarious characters. Even as we were getting ready for the show tonight with you, there is a assassination threat against Marjorie Taylor Greene over a period of a year and a half by guess what, the same FBI, that injustice department that put you in prison, they did nothing about it. Only when President Trump came, did the Capitol Hill police get off their ass and find out something about this. It shows you this government. We ought to put Laura Loomer in charge of the working group on purging the administrative state of everyone. That is even questionable. Just get rid of them. Supreme Court's backing us up. And President Trump can just say, hey, it's my article, Two Powers. What lessons for us today. It was an incredible speech. At the time, it was historic. Someone coming from federal prison, defending the, the president, to come on that stage had a big impact on the, on the election a year later. What do we know and what have we learned, if anything, sir?

[Peter Navarro]

Well, Steve, that was quite an experience. I had no idea how I would be received. You go away for four months and you cut off from the world, essentially. I didn't even know if anybody knew who the heck I was. And when I stood at that stage alone and then later with my fiance Bonnie, and got such a warm reception, my first thought was, Donald Trump's going to win the election, because these people were motivated. I know, Steve, that Donald Trump won that election on critical issues like the border, but that issue of the weaponization of our justice system, I think rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. And you and I were the canaries in the coal mine for that. And later on in that speech, I said, I went to prison so you won't have to. And what I meant by that, Steve, was simply that my case illustrated to the American people that this has got to change. And so, you know, since I've gotten out, we're in the process of trying to make the kind of change, is bring the people responsible for the weaponization of government accountable. But you and I both know that we got a long way to go, because the Comeys, the Brennan's, the Clappers, the Pages, the Strux, the people who put me in jail, the Liz Cheneys, the Bennie Thompsons, the Pelosis, the Schiffs, they do need to be held accountable. But, Steve, the interesting thing about what happened, I could have went into prison. I don't know what your experience was like, but I could have went in there, just, I don't know, whined and had a pity party. And it's like, oh, prison's horrible, the food's bad. No med, you know, all that. But what I uncovered was a $5 billion scandal about the failure of the Biden administration to implement the 2018 First Step Act. And I spent most of my time researching that and the book I'm going to be talking about releasing, I want to thank you for writing the foreword to it by the name of something that was in the speech. I went to prison, so you won't have to. It's written with my fiance, Bonnie. She's on the COVID and it's a diary of what went on. It's on Amazon now, by the way. It's a diary that goes through kind of. Okay, what's, what's it like in prison? Everybody wants to know that. So it's funny, it's sad, it's surprisingly poignant. But there's also this story about the Bureau of Prisons. And I'm happy to report that everything I promised to do inside about making sure that the First Step act would be implemented, we're well on the way to doing. The key was to getting the calculations right, getting the home confinement and the halfway house stuff right. It's all in the book. But we got a great new director at the Bureau of Prisons and he's basically moving forward the kind of things you and I want to get done. And that's progress, brother.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I want to bifurcate this for a minute. First off, the book is incredibly powerful. You kept daily notes and you're a great writer anyway, so the book is a must read for all. The MAGA were impossible in the MAGA base. You get a inside look and particularly of how Peter went day to day. And I will tell you, prison is an experience and one that you should understand because we don't change things. Audience, they can, hey, if we don't change it. And I mean this, don't think, don't think we're past this. But I want to, I want to bifurcate this for a minute. I want to bifurcate this. I want to talk about, because Jared, yourself, myself, we're trying to, you know, have a little working group and help the Bureau of Prisons guys, which I agree we went to a lot of people to get to this fantastic team that's now at the Bureau of Prisons. And the doj, I think, is much more integrated with bureau prisons. So I want to get put a pin in that. But I want to go back to the main thing you just said. You know, you just named just a handful of names. We're only going to get this, Pam. And the people at justice, there are only a handful, you know, of people that are political appointees that are in there right now. They're barely hanging on by their fingernails. President Trump is sued, I think 175 times. Every time he puts out an executive order, every time you guys try to do something, they try to chop block us by going to a federal court. The Justice Department, that's their lead thing right now, is to make sure that President Trump can actually execute on his article 2 powers. And as you this audience knows, he has a broad definition of his article, two powers, which we've argued about for a long time, and he's doing it. The precision package today at the Hill in the Senate was one of them. But the whole weaponization and this thing with MTG just came up today, the entire weaponization of this government, nothing was done. To me, it's one thing to talk about it, but you have to have action. And this is why, you know, there's a story out that classified information that they had a big meeting on Sunday with DNI and other people to start to declassify some of the things around the Clinton situation, the Summer 16 Crossfire Hurricane, the Mole investigation, Comey's part in this, all of it.

[Peter Navarro]

Can I make that has to sound. Let me give you a quick comment before.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, go ahead, go ahead.

[Peter Navarro]

Yes, sir, give me a quick comment. Because today as we speak, I'm helping Senator Grassley try to get both the Clinton annex and the Durham annex released unredacted, immediately, forthwith. And what's interesting is like we have people at the CIA, DOJ and FBI who are the politicals, but it's the deep state people down below to our resisting this. And so my experience in these matters, Steve, is you got to find out who these people are, you got to identify them by name, call them directly and say, hey, let's get this stuff out because it's too long. I mean, the fact that we don't have the Durham annex and the Clinton Annex released in 2025 is just crazy stuff.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Hang on, hang on one second. Second. We're gonna take a short commercial break. Peter realizes you gotta grab the microphone in the war room. He remembers his co host days. Short break. Back with Peter Navarre in his book next, what if he had the brightest mind in the war room delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets. Jim predicted Trump's Electoral college victory exactly 312 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, MoneyGPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos. Bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes and even threats to national security. Right now, war room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for strategic intelligence. This is Jim's Flagship financial newsletter Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go to rickardswarroom.com that's all one word. Rickards War room. Rickards with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's rickardswarroom.com do it today.

[Peter Navarro]

Come for me. They can come for you.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I think it's a shame. I think it's a disgrace. When former White House advisor Peter Navarro stood on principle, he never imagined it would land him behind bars.

[Peter Navarro]

They demanded that I break the law.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

But he refused to betray Donald Trump or the Constitution and paid the price. As a political prisoner locked inside a Miami federal prison, Peter found two lifelines. Postcards of hope to his fiance Bonnie Pixie Brenner and a hidden multi million dollar prison scandal he's now exposing. I went to prison so you won't have to. Peter and Pixie share a riveting prison diary, a heartfelt love story and a shocking look at injustice in America's prison system. Stand with Peter. Scan the QR code now or go to Amazon.com to order your copy.

[Peter Navarro]

I went to prison so you. You won't have to.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

That's right. From the speech and the the story of your the daily memoir. Bonnie's support is. Is incredible. It is a great love story. I'm glad it's in there. The reason it must be read today is not those that that's important and that makes it a literary kind of event. And you people are going to enjoy it particularly. You know it's going to come out in September. I want pre orders now. But when Peter says the name, when he first told me I saw the thing, he said, hey, that's the. What should be the title. I said, that's got to be the title. Here's the reason folks don't think we're through this by a long way. You saw Cory Booker. They walked out on Emma Bove today. They wouldn't even have given the common courtesy of voting no. They walked out today. They got a person of assassination threats over MTG and her family and her staff and their families over a year and a half. Nothing done about it. They're not going to do anything until we do it. This book will inspire you. Do not think Navarro set up on the stage. Hey, they came for him. They came for me. They came for other people. The J6ers. They came for Trump. Trump is going to get 300 years in prison. And at the end of the day, they tried to assassinate him. They're coming for everybody. And we're not on the ramparts getting it right. This is why I'm so banging. You got to go after the deep state. My Tampa speech was, hey, the Tampa resolves. We must resolve to destroy the deep state. We must do it on our watch. We must understand that, that it's only us, it's only American citizens that have to do this. It's our responsibility, our duty. And number three, if you're not with us on destroying the deep state, you're against. There's no neutrality here. That's why the book, Peter, is so important and I think will be. It's a kind of a seminal work. The timing of this is perfect. And here's the interesting thing. It's a year after you got out, dude, it ain't getting any better. It's not getting any better. We need to purge these people. Loomer's correct. Many of them are guilty of treason. She's absolutely correct. Peter Navarro, your thoughts?

[Peter Navarro]

Well, naming names, I think, is the name of the game. One of the things that should strike everyone is that I went to prison because of the Democrats. There wasn't a single Republican except Liz Cheney involved in my incarceration. It was the Democrat Congress on a party line vote. It was the Democrat DOJ and a Democrat White House. It was a Democrat judge who had been appointed by Obama, and into Washington D.C. a Democrat jury. And then on top of that, Steve, there were two appeals court judges, Patricia Millette and Cornelia Pollard, who refused to let me out pending my appeal, which was arguably the most outrageous thing of the whole. Only working railroad in Washington D.C. and if we lost that election, Donald Trump would be in prison right now. So I went to prison. So you won't have to book. But it's also the message, my buddy.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

That's why the timing so perfect. Peter, repeat that because, you know, I'm screaming in the microphone all the time. You're not.

[Peter Navarro]

You're.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You're now the trade guy I see up there talking about the Fed. You're thinking great thoughts all the time. I see you on Bloomberg and all this mainstream media. Your war room days are way behind you. But if we had lost the election, Trump would be in prison, would he not, sir?

[Peter Navarro]

Yeah, and you'd be in prison. And I might be back in prison. There's no, look, war room posse. There's no question that Donald Trump would be sitting in a prison cell if he had lost that election. There's absolutely a question. And how quickly we forget. I mean, I had to do the time Steve had to do the time, but they were coming for all of us. Jeff Clark, Rudy Giuliani, all of those folks. And here's the thing, Steve. If they don't get you behind the bars, they steal all your money, right? It's like my legal bills were well over a million, probably yours were well over two. Everybody I know, including Rudy, I mean, Rudy went bankrupt because of this. This is the weaponization of our justice system by people who want to export our jobs, have an open border, and basically turn the world over to people who want to benefit from our hard labor and basically bury us. It's like, so this is the mission here. I need to explain to people that this is the weaponization of the government and I'm the poster child. You and I, Steve. You and I, Steve, we did four months each. And you know, my age. Four months at my age, that's a considerable portion of the rest of my life, dude.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

So you're pretty, right?

[Peter Navarro]

Don't cry for me. It's just like you're. You're coming back at.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

There's no one, there's no one. There's no one.

[Peter Navarro]

Ain't no whining. I remember sitting.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You're going to your seat for.

[Peter Navarro]

For a couple of months while you were inside.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Dude, you were next. Man up, baby. Thank you. Hang on. Stay right there. We're going to continue in the six o' clock hour, so just hang on right there. Mike Lindell, another guy the FBI has been all over and of course up in Minnesota. They're all over right now. Sell me a sheet and some pillows so I can close out with a great day today.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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