Pam Bondi (2:42)

Yeah. This is the first response to the lawsuit from the Wall Street Journal. A spokesperson for Dow Jones, the owner of the Journal, says the following. We have full confidence in the rigor and accuracy of our reporting and will vigorously defend against any lawsuit. That's to be expected. But it's also important to hear the Wall Street Journal is prepared for this. They're not surprised about this lawsuit and there's no indication they're going to fold anytime soon.

Tulsi Gabbard (3:05)

Thank you so much and thanks for focusing on this issue that these documents have really brought to the forefront because it's one that doesn't just affect Democrats or Republicans. It's not a Democrat or Republican issue. This is an issue with such significant impact that it should concern every American because it has to do with the fabric and integrity of our Democratic Republic that we had a situation here where in the months leading up to the 2016 election, the intelligence community assessed, and this is what the documents detail, the intelligence community assessed essentially Russia doesn't have the tools, the capability or the intent to try to change the outcome of the US Presidential election. Donald Trump pulls off a historic victory against Hillary Clinton in November of 2016. Even in the days after that election, the intelligence community continued to their consistent assessment that reflected the same thing in the months leading up to the election. All of a sudden, in the early days of December, there was a President's daily brief that was drafted. This is put together by the different elements of the intelligence community that reflected that same assessment. Russia did not try to hack the election. In essence, that pdb, that document was pulled hours before it was supposed to be published by for the president to see that following morning. That document was never published until we released it yesterday. One day later, President Obama calls a meeting of his National Security Council, his top officials, to be held on what they called a sensitive topic. And the results of that meeting, which we released yesterday, and these over 100 documents that talk about in detail how President Obama and his team, he directed a manufactured piece of intelligence that detailed not if, but how Russia tried to influence the outcome of the United States election that President Trump won in November of 2016. This document was then used as the foundation for everything that came next. It was essentially a years long coup that was launched against President Trump before he even had the opportunity to take his oath of office and be sworn in as president, United States. So as you know, there was a Mueller investigation that went on for years, cost taxpayers nearly $40 million. There were two congressional impeachments. President Trump and almost every member of his family were smeared and attacked, faced lawsuits, depositions. High level officials were investigated, some were arrested and put in jail. The list goes on and on about the ramifications of this. But, but foundational to it all was the fact that we had in President Obama and his leadership team people who did not want to accept the will of the American people in electing Donald Trump in 2016 and therefore cooked up this treasonous conspiracy to again try to effectively, and they did effectively launch a years long coup against the sitting president, United States State.

Natalie Winters (6:20)

Can we go to him or he's not? Okay, we got, we're so packed today that we don't even have time for our long open. It is Saturday, the 19th of July, year of our Lord 2025. Yesterday a historic day. President Trump finally goes on offense against the murdochs with the $10 billion lawsuit. The Murdochs retort, hey, the reporting's all accurate. We'll stand our ground. Pam Bondi finally goes into court, asks for the unsealing of evidence and grand jury testimony in evidence in the Epstein and in Maxwell, both situations in the bombshell of bombshells that General Flynn, who joins us in a few minutes has said we get the, we get the, we get the bombshell about Obama. I've got Natalie Winters is the co host this morning. Jack Basova's with us. General Flynn, let's start with Jack. Jack, right there, you heard Tulsi. She went on Fox and Friends this morning for the opening salvo after the dump yesterday. Put it in perspective for us, Steve.

Mike Benz (7:23)

My phone was ringing off the hook all last night. Current informer, serving people I knew who in the intelligence community, battle buddies of mine calling up saying this is the biggest intelligence scandal since Iraq. WMDs. This is far beyond anything Watergate was claimed to have been. They didn't have intelligence that they were protecting. They lied about the fact that the intelligence wasn't there and they manufactured it on purpose. One of those officials or one of those people said to me, doors should be getting kicked in over this. This is like something that we would have seen at the end of the Soviet Union when everything was falling apart and they're taking potshots at their own parliament with tanks rolling through Moscow and the KGB is trying to take over. Look, what you're seeing here is no less than a preemptive coup by the intelligence state and elements of the previous administration completely directed down. And what DNI Gabbard said there was so clear. And by the way, the team that put this together, having every single document released in the annex here, the declassifications, the way they were able to do this, it's impeccable. Her team deserves absolute full credit for this over at the ODNI's office. Joe Kent there and the rest. But what's. What's very, very important to understand. Steven, you and I said this in real time as we were going over the documents in front of a Camry. As people said, Paso big. Why are you looking down so much? Because we're reading the documents here in real time. The decision to withdraw the President's Daily Brief on December 8th of 2016 is not a decision taken lightly. And there's only one official in the federal government has full authority to do that as the President, United States. Steve, this is unprecedented. This is like saying the New York Times isn't going to publish or the Wall Street Journal isn't going to just put out an issue that day. They pulled the entire thing. And why did they do this? Because that document is receiving wide circulation. And Steve, you mentioned it because as a member of the transition team, you knew that the President elect is also someone who would have had access to this. They would have been on the distro list for it. And so they pulled the entire thing to ensure that President Trump and his transition team, which of course at the time included the incoming National Security adviser, General Flynn, never would have seen the original assessment that Russia did not attempt to hack the 2016 election. Think about how many lives have been ruined in the wake of that state.

Natalie Winters (10:02)

No, the whole arc, the whole arc of history. The situation we had the Chinese Communist Party were now Russia's their strategic ally. Hang on one second, Natalie, hang on. Let's get General Flynn because he's got limited time. General Flynn, it now becomes clear, more clear why they had to take you out originally, as you know, the PDB went to. We got the President's PDB as President elect. It was President Trump, VP Pence, Leck Pence, you, myself, Reince, Jared, just a handful of people. And we always question the fact. Why did they jump to this conclusion when there was no evidence? This is why we set the meeting up for January 3rd, General Flynn is very clear. This is why they had to remove you immediately, sir. Is that, is that your understanding?

Steve Cortez (10:44)

Yeah. First of all, my hat's off to Tulsi Gabbard. I think Tulsi Gabbard just demonstrated a level, as I said this morning, of courage, commitment to, you know, being just absolutely transparent, which is what this administration has said from the beginning. And just getting to the truth, this, this very important meeting, it looks like on December 8th is really the piece of data that I think has now been exposed to really allow everybody to connect the dots. As I said early this morning on my X post, basically I laid back out the plan, which was eight years of Obama, eight years of Hillary, and Steve, you and I wouldn't be having this conversation. And so once, you know, enter, enter summer of 2015 and so on and so forth, and Donald J. Trump wins the election, as you know, as you well know, in November of 2016, then, you know, all that the gates of hell were unleashed by Obama. And that's what we now know. Now he, you know, it's not just Obama, of course, you know, it goes back to the summer of 2016. And actually what we're learning from this is actually goes back to late 2015, the probably December 2015 timeframe. So what I want people to know from this is that there are going to be other names that have never been really exposed. People over at the National Security Agency, others inside of the FBI, others in the CIA that are going to be in big, big trouble here. Because now that we know where it began, and it really did began with the direction and intention of Barack Obama, that is going to open up so much more evidence. And as, as I know Tulsi has been doing for a number of months now, they've been culling through all this evidence. And that's why you saw recently the open investigation on Comey and Brennan, that's just the first shot across the bow for what I'm calling neither. You can call it a counterpuncher, you can call it a counter offensive, but President Trump, you got to believe he's fully aware of all this. This is why, you know, I think the last few days and maybe weeks, you've seen a level of frustration and, and it doesn't mean that, you know, everybody's off the hook on, on some of the other issues that we're dealing with, but this is the biggest crime in the history of the United States of America. As I said, I think it was yesterday, Steve, that, you know, this is a moment that is really surreal for many people in the US that never felt like we would ever go through or experience a coup, basically a coup which would take down a duly elected President of the United States by another, by another individual. Now, I will tell you, and I've said this, I've said this very publicly, you know, if you're going to stage a coup, you better kill the king. And in this case, they were not able to kill the king, meaning, you know, Donald Trump. And I don't, I'm not, I'm just metaphorically using that, because he's not a king, he's the President of the United States. But twice, we have seen twice assassination attempts on him, very public assassination attempts on him. You know, there many people don't know of the other threats against his life. So they were not able to do that. They also, in my case, and I'll speak specifically for me, you know, they, I went through hell. My family went through hell, but they picked the wrong Irishman, and they picked the wrong Irish family because we knew from the very beginning, you know, and Steve, I don't think we realized when we were first in the White House in the early days of 2017, just how deep these people and how much they were willing to go. And now what we're learning, and I've known this, I've known this. I've just written a, you know, just published a book on it called Pardon of Innocence, because Trump had to use his pardon power to pardon an innocent man. Most people think I spent time in jail and was convicted, and, you know, my case was dismissed because of egregious government misconduct. So we now, you know, I do, I feel vindicated. I will feel vindicated when I see Barack Obama get, you know, have, have amen handcuffs on, being escorted from his house and being brought into jail. I would say right now, if I were in the Department of Justice or if I would, if I was in the White House, I would demand that the attorney general immediately take away the passports from these individuals who we know have already been named, and there's some others that have not been named yet. Take away the passports. Do not allow them to leave this country. Because I guarantee they're waking up, you know, this morning saying, where's, you know, where can I go? We got to get the hell out of here. Because they're, they committed a massive, massive conspiracy to, to under undermine and overthrow the United States of America, the United States government, the President of the United States and the presidency. And they left a wake in their path. That is unprecedented. As Jack, as Pozo just highlighted. I mean, this is so bad. And anyway, what I want to do is I want people to understand that, look, I'm not giving up. We have got now to seek justice and our rule of law system, Steve, has got to kick in.

Natalie Winters (16:00)

No, no, no. We're on a three pronged attack here against the Murdochs on the civil charges to release everything about the Epstein situation and most importantly now is to get to the bottom of this because the Epstein thing will fit into this with the intelligence services. This is why, folks, Tulsi Gabbard has been getting lit up over the last couple of weeks, kept out of meetings because she was working on this. With all the other intelligence, she was working on this. And there's certain elements in particular, let me be blunt. The CIA today tried to thwart this, they tried to stop this, they tried to chop block this. I think it's one of the reasons they put out the great, they put out the great intelligence on, on Kennedy last week as another diversion play. That's very important because that's the first coup. But this is a full on coup. Mike, you've Talked about the 16 year plan to take it down. But, but hang on one second. I want to play the second part of Tulsi's. I might as we play this part. It shouldn't be lost on people. This should not be lost on people. The reason that Obama and Brennan, these guys wanted the coup is so we couldn't get into the, the information of what they've been doing as the deep state to drive us into war after war after war. That's why they did it. And no offense, in President Trump's first term. People like Bill Barr, people like John Ratcliffe at dni, why was this not exposed in Trump's first term? We should have gotten this information in Trump's first term. Let's go and play Tulsi's. The second part of her, her interview on Fox and Friends this morning.

General Michael Flynn (17:37)

I mean, this goes all the way to Barack Obama. Will we actually see someone as high up as Barack Obama take responsibility, be accountable, maybe face criminal charges? Is that a possibility here based on.

Tulsi Gabbard (17:53)

The documents that you've released, Rachel, the seriousness of again, the implications and the consequences of these actions that were taken demand accountability. The American people not only deserve the truth and accountability. When we look at the future of our country as a democratic republic and the American people's ability to have faith that when they go and cast a vote at the ballot box that the will of the people will be respected by those in government, whether they be Democrats or Republicans. This is literally what is at stake here. So we are referring all of our documents to the Department of Justice for the purpose of accountability and action. No one, no matter who they are, no matter how high up they are or how powerful they may be, no matter who the intelligence officials or professionals were who were a part of this treasonous conspiracy, there must be accountability. The truth must be shown to the American people in order to ensure that there is this faith and trust and integrity in our democratic republic for the sake of the future of our country.

Steve Bannon (19:02)

So do we can, as voters, can.

Natalie Winters (19:04)

We feel confident that we will actually.

Steve Bannon (19:07)

See charges, do you think, out of this?

Tulsi Gabbard (19:12)

I'm not a lawyer. We're referring all of this to the Department of Justice. I know that Attorney General Pam Bondi is committed to bringing about justice to those who have broken the law. And in this case, again, what these documents detail to me, in my view, cannot be explained as anything but a treasonous conspiracy. This is not so different from what we saw under George W. Bush when we saw that manufactured intelligence claiming there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, that kicked off a war that changed our country, that changed the lives of so many people like myself who went and served in those wars. The implications of manufactured intelligence are real. I would even say that what we are seeing here has an even greater impact than what we've seen in the past, because it speaks. Speaks again to the foundation of our Constitution and our democratic republic, which is why accountability is so critical.

Natalie Winters (20:15)

Mike Flynn, General Flynn. Seditious conspiracy. Treasonous conspiracy. Now you know why Barack Obama, when President Trump went down with Jared and had that meeting two days after he was elected in 2016, the only recommendation that Barack Obama made to the president states is, you cannot hire Mike Flynn. You cannot hire Mike Flynn. And the reason was that you knew having been head of DIA and now going to be the National Security Advisor, you would know exactly where to go to to unearth this. And this is why, one, they started this process of a coup. And number two, they could not have you in the White House in that position. Sir.

Steve Cortez (20:56)

Yeah, a couple of things. Number one, again, Tulsi Gabbard just demonstrated to the world how strong and how courageous she actually. I mean, she is. I mean, if anybody had any doubts about Tulsi Gabbard, those doubts need to be erased. The second thing, Steve, and this is a little bit more philosophical, but I actually believe that now. And I. And I. Maybe it's my own faith and my own, you know, trying to resolve what did occur. I actually believe that the United States of America needed to go through this because we're at our 250th year mark. And for us to survive another 250 years, the American people, particularly the American people needed to, needed to have us go through this. You know, I mean, I hate to be at the fulcrum of it. And same with Trump. I know he didn't want to be there either. You know, you too, Steve, and others, Peter Navarro, another one. You know, I mean, there's other people that got hurt by this. Roger Stone. So all I'm saying is I do believe, and I have, I've had to kind of come to grips with this, that I believe that our country, our nation, if we're going to continue to be a beautiful constitutional republic, that we are for another 250 years, we needed to go through this pain. And we, and we needed to demonstrate to the American people that there is evil in the world. There's definitely evil right here in our country. So I really believe now, looking back, you know, and again, I, a bit tongue in cheek, I say they picked the wrong Irishman. And they did. Because I think that had, had they gone after somebody else or allowed somebody else to be in a position, maybe that person wouldn't have been strong enough to, to be able to withstand the body blows that I know that I took and certainly, and certainly Donald Trump as well, because I don't want to discount what he and his family have experienced, nor do I want to ever discount what my family and I have experienced. But I do believe that there is some faith based reason and maybe it is, maybe it's one of those sort of God knows, but our nation needed to go through this and now we know and we are going to recover. So are the, you know, the action, the, the sort of, the action plan coming out of here, Steve, is pay attention, focus on what we need to be doing. We have to stay.

Natalie Winters (23:12)

Hang on. We're only, we're only going to hang on, but we're only going to recover. We have to take this to its ultimate conclusion. The only way we're going to recover is you have to identify everyone associated with this. You have to get all the facts on the table. It has to be adjudicated. They have to be held responsible. And I think the charge here is going to be treason, right? This is treason. This is a coup. And so this is just the beginning. Tulsi Gabbard's courage and the people around her, their courage. Because there was a lot, and I mean a lot of blowback of them releasing this. We have to have their back and we have to drive this forward. Mike, I know you're packed, but we're going to have you on next week. Just give it to, we put in the Tweet up now, Obama's 16 year plan to take down the nation. We're going to, we want to address that with you on Monday on the show. But this all fits in to what Obama's strategy was, correct?

Steve Cortez (24:04)

Absolutely. I want people to look at that tweet that I put out this morning. It's the plan, the strategy, the target and the counterpunch. Right? That's where we are at right now. We're at the counterpunch phase. But Steve, as you just said, now it's the, you know, we're going to step into the world of the rule of law phase and we can't have it go too long here. Right, Right. We don't, it's not like we got to go search for evidence. We have the evidence now. There's got to be some decisions and people that are going to be, yeah.

Natalie Winters (24:32)

Yeah, but hang on you. As you know that, as you know, the first issue with the intelligence, it's a wilderness of mirrors. We're going to get shot block a thousand times and going forward, they're going to say, no, you don't understand. This is what it was. This is, it's very clear if you understand what's going on. But they are going to fight and they're particularly going to fight in the part of the battleground is the American people that are still asleep. They're going to say, oh, these are the crazy, this is the craziest wing of the craziest political movement ever. This is a conspiracy theory. Guys, this is the Q crowd, right? This is all of it. These people are nuts. And none of this is true. We're going to have a fight. This is going to be, because this is, if you, if you get this done right, you break their control. This is about who controls this nation. They had, we had an elected, elected president, Donald Trump. And they said, impossible, we cannot have that guy take office here because he'll unearth all of our crimes and send us all to prison back in 17, 18 and 19. And they couldn't do it. And so they had a conspiracy to have a coup d', etat, which is a seditious conspiracy, a grand conspiracy or treasonous conspiracy. This is, this is when the fight starts. Mike, we're putting up that, we're putting up your tweet right now. We'll get you back on Monday to go in detail. Where do people get you over the weekend? Because I assume this is going to be on fire, sir.

Steve Cortez (25:52)

Yeah, at Jen Flynn on X and I post, I cross post on all my other platforms or they can go to general flynn.com too. But I need everybody to start paying attention here. You know, one of the things that you just said, and I'll say it again, Tulsi Gabbard gets a lot of credit and she comes from a completely different angle when it comes into being the Director of National Intelligence. So there's not a lot of accusations that they can, that they can leverage against her, but boy, they're going to go after her hard. And the second thing is in counteroffensive operations, there's a lot of trickery and a lot of deception and we have got to be ready for that. So, Steve, pay attention to this channel, everybody, and I'll get back on with you. Thanks for having me on this morning.

Natalie Winters (26:33)

Mike Flynn, if Grayson Mo could push that out, his the strategy of the 16 year strategy of Obama to destroy the country and they came very close to doing it now it's incumbent upon us to stop. General Flynn, honored to have you on here, sir. God bless Steve Poso. God bless you, sir. One tough mick right there. Jack Bosovic, the wilderness of mirrors, counterintelligence, Angleton folks, if you think this is going to be straightforward, you're going to see evidence that's going to blow your head up and you're going to have people come up and look into the camera and bald faced lie, just like we got that clip yesterday that Natalie got us on. Ben Rhodes. They will look you in the eye and they will lie. That's what they're trained to do. We're going to the heart of the beast. This is the heart of the beast. And they will do anything, anything to keep their power and still destroy Trump in the Trump movement, sir.

Mike Benz (27:26)

Well, Steve, that's exactly right. And what this does is it shows us that these intelligence officials are willing to lie. And by the way, Steve, this is prior to signal this, this is a decade ago, right? This is 2016. So there's no signal. They wrote all this is just what they have written in their government computers on email and in the meeting minutes that came out of that national security security meeting. You look at the, the absolute rogues gallery, Victoria Newland sitting right there in that meeting when you look at all of the Lisa Monaco sitting up there in that meeting. You're talking about the very people who have spent the last decade, number one, trying to destroy the American patriot movement and the MAGA movement and number two, trying to get us into a shooting or war with Russia, trying to drive the United States and Russia into a shooting war together. It's very clear by the way, that shooting war is currently being conducted on the territory of Ukraine. But make no mistake, this has been a fight between the US And Russia. One where and Zelensky just extended the, the martial law over there. He's locking up people. Even the Financial Times, even the Kiev Independent is starting to turn against Zelensky saying that he's authoritarian. I'm sorry, I thought Tucker Carlson was a foreign agent when he was saying that. But now you got the Ukrainians saying it themselves. The Financial Times is saying that, look, none of this had to happen. All of this was orchestrated and it was orchestrated from the very top. You don't have to believe us anymore. You don't even have to believe Tulsi Gabbard because she provided their emails. We have it there in black, the receipts. This is the smoking gun the Patriots have been looking, looking for for a long, long time. And by the way, Steve, it represents an opportunity for President Trump. Now Tulsi Gabbard has provided President Trump an opportunity to reset on the world stage and the domestic stage.

Natalie Winters (29:24)

Amen. Amen. Historic short break. Post is going to stay with us for a little while. I'm going to be here for a little while. Natalie Winters, our co host this morning, riding shotgun, but she's taking over the reins here and she's going to frame exactly where we stand with all this. A historic day yesterday. And now we're firing off the football here in the war room. Take your phone out. Text Abandoned 989-898 get the Ultimate Guide that's free to investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Back in a moment.

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Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

Natalie Winters (33:19)

The the lawsuit against in civil court against the Murdochs. The the going to federal court to release the documents or at least the grand jury documents in the in the in the evidence, it's under seal. And Epstein also the other evidence that that could be the reason we say that this has to be dealt with by special prosecutor release all of it as part of because there's going to be a special prosecutor named on this. It has to be. This thing is so complicated. But you're seeing and what you're going to see is a coup against a president states and the question gets to be, hey, we took over and did beat it back. Why was this stuff not unveiled in President Trump's first term? That has to be a big part of this cover up. Why was it not? And to say, well the deep state ran things and people just had these political points, that's not good enough. It's not good enough. Because folks, you talk about a grind to get to the situation that we can put handcuffs on Brennan, handcuffs on Clapper, handcuffs on Kobe, handcuffs on Hill, handcuffs on Obama and their staff and Jake Sullivan and Ben Rhodes and all these guys and perp walk them right into a court for an indictment is going to be so hard so many different times you're gonna say this is just too tough. We can't do it. We have to be forged in steel for this to go through. And we, and we're doing this for the country. This is not about maga. This is not by President Trump. This is not about this audience. This is about this republic. If we don't do this and do this now, we don't have a country. You'll be able to see who actually governs you and it ain't you. And it's not your vote, okay? And it's not the people you put in office. It's an apparatus that has been formed over the last 60, 70, 80 years that controls this country and controls it in conjunctions with other countries and other intelligence services for their own betterment and for their plan, not what the American people are saying. And it's going to be quite obvious who looked the other way and who didn't have the guts to the courage and the focus and the fierceness to take this to its ultimate conclusion. Natalie Winters, can you frame this for us, ma'? Am?

Unknown Speaker (35:37)

Sure. Well, I remember what was it just a year ago when I was sitting here filling in for you, I said I think we would actually get retribution when you were providing live commentary of Hillary Clinton's trials and her ultimately going to prison. I think with the documents released yesterday, we can certainly broaden that out to include Obama, Brennan, Clapper, et cetera, et cetera, and hopefully we're one step closer. I think what DNI Gabbard did is sort of a representation of what people voted for when they were wanting radical transparency and accountability in the form of justice. Right. We don't have to concoct charges or accusations against people. These are their own words. But I think you can sort of even draw the through line here. This is certainly the opening salvo, right, of what constitutes, I think the deep state, the Russiagate hoax. But I think there's sort of an interesting evolution in their tactics to, to influence elections. Right. You can tell from the timeline of events, right, Their discussion about Russian interference, they did not think that President Trump was going to win. Right. This is sort of a delayed after the fact CYA move. That's why you got that meeting, which I think it's worth, worth listing off the names of participants because so many of those people ended up in the highest levels within the Biden regime. But I think you see why they stole the 2020 election, right? They weren't content. They weren't secure with just letting the American people vote. There's a direct through line. They intensified their strateg to control the outcome because they didn't want to give President Trump a second term. And they weren't content just doing this sort of after the fact narrative management. And frankly, if you even continue that evolution to the 2024 election, they tried to make it so President Trump couldn't even run. Remember, pulling off the ballots, obviously, the lawsuits, the indictments, it goes on. And I think what you were sort of talking about, right, the who runs the country? Who are these powerful people that you don't even know their names yet. I think there's a wonderful synergy there with everything that we've been calling for in terms of releasing the Epstein lists, not because it's a tabloid story, but because it runs to intelligence links foreign and domestic. And when you read the names of the people who participated in this December 9th meeting to really set this whole thing into motion, I mean, the names Victoria Nuland, John Kerry, Brian McKeon or McKean, which I think is an important name, that's someone who you probably haven't heard of, but he was a very senior official in the State Department under Joe Biden. And in that sort of interregnum period, before he joined back into federal government service, he was the senior director at the Penn Biden center for Diplomacy and global engagement in D.C. right. The list goes on. Maher Bittar, James Clapper, McCabe, Brennan Dunford, Lisa Monaco, Ben Rhodes, all of these people, and I guess not Ben Rhodes, but all of them who had very senior officials. Right. Powerful positions within the Biden regime, which it almost makes sense why they would be trying to secure a victory for him in 2020. So I think this is, like you said, the beginning, the opening salva, but we need to keep pushing. And frankly, I think the most important thing that Gabbard put out in her tweet thread, which I hope materializes, certainly it's the documents itself, but it's these words. The integrity of our democratic republic demands that every person involved be investigated and brought to justice to prevent this from ever happening again. Frankly, if we continue to release stuff like this and there are no actual ramifications, you're only emboldening these people to do it again because they know they can get away with it.

Natalie Winters (38:56)

Oh, no. It's over. Jack Bosovic. I know you got to bounce. I got a bounce. Closing thoughts, particularly to what she said, what Natalie said at the end. This is about now. Okay? Tulsi and the team at DNI have shown the courage to start to put this out against tremendous forces that tried to run her out of this government and tried to destroy their integrity. Right? It's now we have to pick up the ball and we have to drive. This is one of the reasons I've been saying for weeks and weeks and weeks, you need a special prosecutor, you need a hammer at the top that puts together a 200 man research team and prosecutors to go after this. If we don't do this, we don't deserve to be able to run this country because they're in broad daylight telling you and laughing at you about what they did, sir.

Mike Benz (39:45)

Look, Steve, this is all about action at this point. The fact that it's been referred over to the Department of Justice. Criminal prosecutions have to happen. Look, doors need to be kicked in over this type of thing. You have an entire generation of an intelligence community that was brought up now for the last decade, decade plus, believing that Russia hostilely activated and interfered in the U.S. intel or the U.S. election of 2016 never happened. So everything that has happened since then, up to and including the Ukraine war, goes back. We expelled Russian diplomats over this. We actively, we, the Obama administration, Vicki Nuland and all the rest up there, they actively committed hostile acts against a foreign power over this. That drove us into this conflict inexorably, and it was done so with deliberate action. What Tulsi Gabbard has done here has provide all of us, number one, with a Reset abroad for all of those foreign policy items that I just mentioned, but also domestically. The intelligence community needs to be broken up. The 16, 17 agencies, if you include the DNI, they need to be broken. They need to be reformed. The entire thing. You need to crack it, lance the boil and fix what's going on. And it cannot be done from the bottom up. It has to be done with a hammer. From the top down. We need to be done. These institutions should have been done in the first.

Natalie Winters (41:21)

Been done, but now it's got to be done. It's got. They have to be purged. We have to hit this with a blowtorch and we have to have the courage to take this. This is why I say we need to have a special prosecutor. It's too much for doj, given everything they're doing and everything that they're. They're fighting with the 175 lawsuits against the President's Article 2 powers, and I believe strongly using his Article 2 powers, the special prosecutor on this ought to report directly to the office of the President. Jackson, before I let you go, social media, you're going to be up all week, and we know tons of people in the intelligence community are reaching out to you. We'll have more on this, obviously, Monday, more in depth. What should people look for from you over the weekend as they go to your Twitter feed?

Mike Benz (42:05)

Well, Steve, we're up at Jack Posobie, and of course, it's all about the President's daily Brief. And people need to understand the pdb, even though it is on paper owned by the dni, as all intelligence are by statute, in practice, that is a CIA product. So I just put this tweet up right now. Why didn't Mike Pompeo, who was the President's CIA director originally, who would have had access to all of this just weeks after the fact, go back, right? You had General Flynn there, Steve. You were part of the presidential transition team. Why didn't Mike Pompeo go and pull these emails in the first couple days he was there and say, Mr. President, they're all lying. All of this Russia stuff is a lie. And we could see it right here. Mike Pompeo had control of this information. Mike Pompeo owned this information. He had access to it. He never walked over to the President's Oval Office and said this. He never brought it to the White House. Why did we have to go and cash Patel and the plot against the President and all the rest of it if it was sitting in Mike Pompeo's Files. Sir, this is a huge problem, especially when Operation Spiderweb just happened. Who was in Odessa? Mike Pompeo. Again, this is what happens. Those guys get into these agencies, they go native and they start deferring to the people who are there. God bless Tulsi Gabbard for having, you know. God bless. God bless. It takes a woman, I guess, to have the stones to do what the guys won't do in this situation.

Natalie Winters (43:34)

Unbelievable. Where they go, where they go for social media, you're going to be on fire weekend. I can tell. Until we get you back up Monday.

Mike Benz (43:40)

Yeah, we're up at Jack Paso, big Human Events Daily. We've got a couple of specials coming out. I may have to do an emergency special just on all this. It's, it's too much and I'm getting, I'm. The phone's ringing off the hook.

Natalie Winters (43:50)

Let us, let us know and we'll, we'll promote that. We'll, we'll stream it on, on War Room. We'll do everything. Just let me know. Keep me, keep me in the. So watch for that. Probably a special with Jack Bosobic. I may jump on there, too. Natalie Winters, put in perspective also the other two thirds of this, which is the president now Trump is in Bess. He's going on offense, going on offense on the Epstein material with justice going to the courts. And he's going on offense against the Murdochs in a big way. Ma'. Am.

Steve Cortez (44:24)

Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (44:25)

Well, I think that the filings yesterday evening, there were motions to unseal the grand jury transcripts. There were two separate ones. One was for Maxwell, the other was for Epstein. They sort of lay out the case as to what they want, obviously, the transcripts. But I think the point to be made is that a lot of this information, the transcripts are just part of it. And you could probably get more information, particularly on the intel and intel link front, by declassifying the transcripts from Alex Acosta. But I do think that there was sort of a buried lead within both of those filings that in some ways I think there's an interesting synergy with what we saw go on with the Russiagate documents. It's because of this audience and their persistence and their really devotion to getting the truth out that there's any appetite to release this information in the first place. First place, subpoint 5 in both of these filings was, quote, public officials, lawmakers, pundits, and ordinary citizens remain deeply interested and concerned about the Epstein matter. Certainly not the corporate media, certainly not the Washington Post. Which was busy laundering CIA talking points in this case. I'll make sure after you leave, we're going to make famous the three WaPo journalists who were laundering the talking points as outlined in the Gabbard memo. But if it weren't for this audience, frankly, Steve, if it weren't for you, there would not have been the appetite, I think, to make the case for releasing it.

Natalie Winters (45:50)

Now we're going to you've also got Mike Benz, the great Mike Benz. And I'm telling you, Natalie's interviews with Benz are classics. So Mike Benz will be joining you. A lot going on.

Unknown Speaker (45:59)

I'm not suicidal, Natalie.

Natalie Winters (46:03)

Exactly. Natalie is not suicidal. On a roll. And the Ben stuff is just extraordinary. He's such a unique individual in this time and place to really be able to connect so many dots. I'll be up on Getter throughout the day. I want to make sure we thank our sponsors, particularly Birchgold. End of the Dollar Empire now we're putting out the eighth free part of the eighth installments, taught now in college courses in finance. If you want to understand the global economy, if you understand global capital markets, if you want to understand why gold has been a hedge of times, of financial turbulence, why gold has outperformed even the S&P 500 in the first quarter of the 21st century, which is pretty extraordinary. Gold's not supposed to act like that. Go to birchgold.com Bannon end of the Dollar Empire the most important thing there is not just to get the material to make contact with Philip Patrick and the team that is out Birch Gold Short commercial break Natalie Winters takes it from here. See, I'll be up on get her all weekend. See you back here Monday morning.

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Steve Bannon (48:35)

Who is Barack Obama? Really?

Unknown Speaker (48:38)

He took us backwards. He didn't leave it better than he found it.

Mike Benz (48:41)

There's never been anything false about hope.

Steve Bannon (48:46)

A stunning 30% decline in the net worth of black households in America under.

Unknown Speaker (48:52)

Obama, about how America needs hope and change. Like that crap that didn't happen.

Natalie Winters (48:57)

And I'm still waiting for that.

Unknown Speaker (49:03)

Welcome back to the war room. Yet another litany of reasons why Obama is probably one of the worst presidents in the history of the United States. Not just in his actions while in office, but I think what we're learning, what he did to nullify and subvert President Trump and his administration, at least the first time around. But as always, the MAGA movement seems to prevail. All we need is some transparency to prove our theory of the case, not necessarily that we want to be vindicated. I'm also sure our next guest, Steve Cortez, probably didn't think when you were getting ready to put out that documentary, which I think is coming out Sunday, that it was going to happen amidst this news cycle. Quite, quite clairvoyant on your part. Before we get into the documentary, some other stuff about amnesty. I'm just curious your thoughts generally on this kind of, I guess, yet again, proving Russiagate to be a complete and utter fabricated hoax.

Steve Bannon (49:52)

Yeah. And by the way, I'll take the lucky break as far as the timing, right, that everyone is talking about Obama right now, and they should be. And my doc happens to be coming out tomorrow. But look, regarding what Tulsi Gabbard has revealed, we've known for a long time that Barack Obama was a charlatan and a liar. Well, we now know that he is in fact a criminal as well, and I think a criminal and traitor to this country at the very, very highest, most severe levels. And so much credit to Tulsi Gabbard for doing this and to President Trump, by the way, for hiring her. And even more broadly than that, for building this coalition that involves so many people like her, former Democrats who have come around to populism on the right. It's really, it's amazing what has been built in terms of that coalition. And now we're seeing some of the fruits of it, of let's start telling the truth because it's important for Americans. You know, I think a lot of us suspected most of this, but now we're actually seeing it with proof, with evidence and documentation. And thankfully, I think we have the kind of DOJ now that is going to actually fully chase this down. So Barack Obama, nothing surprises me about him as a Chicagoan. I've been watching him very closely for a very long time, which is a big reason that I did this documentary in Chicago. And as I said, he's done tremendous damage to this country. Most of it we already knew. Some of it now is truly new, revealing shocking information and thanks to Tulsi Gabbard and President Trump.

Unknown Speaker (51:16)

Well, I always say, I think the distinguishing distinguishing factor between the sort of old guard Republican Party and MAGA is what our definition of accountability looks like. I'm sure, you know, Trey Gowdy and the Benghazi committee crew would think just releasing the documents, just, you know, going on Fox doing some nice talking points is enough. But this audience once criminal prosecutions or at least trials for people who committed crimes, I'm curious, you know, for people would say, oh, you know, why are you doing a documentary on Obama? That's looking into the past, though I think as we've learned, looking back at the, you know, even recent past is how you understand the future. What prompted you to want to make this documentary now?

Steve Bannon (51:53)

It's a great question. I've gotten that from a lot of people. It's a natural question, right? Like, well, why not? He's been on above this for so long. And there were really two reasons. The first is, and this is the most important, is that last November, I think for the first time in his political career at least his national political net negative for the Democrats. In other words, he did not help Kamala Harris at all. I think you can make a strong argument that he actually hurt her. He was a scold. He was not helpful in the campaign trail. He really went after black men in a way that they certainly didn't appreciate and moved toward President Trump. So I think that's a very new phenomenon that this man who has been canonized and sainted and just constantly adored by the corporate media is starting to show real political weakness for the first time in his life. So I think that's worth examining what's going on here. And then the second reason that's specific to Chicago, but I think anybody can appreciate this, is that he is building an absolutely gargantuan, just testimony to megalomania, and that is the Obama Library. Natalie, you know that neighborhood extremely well, right next to the University of Chicago. Chicago is known, by the way, for architecture. This is the biggest, most hideous eyesore you could possibly think of. It is so utterly out of scale. It's almost a billion dollars total cost. It was supposed to be 300 million, so more than three times the budget five years late. In some ways, I think in sad, twisted ways, it's actually kind of representative and emblematic of who Obama actually is. So those two factors, though, were the impetuses for me doing this last November. The fact that he hurt the Democrats for the first time. And then this Obama library, which, again, you know, I think they will eventually rue the day that they built this thing because it is so giant and ugly and expensive that it's embarrassing, frankly. And so I did a lot of the shooting in Chicago right there. And then I also just. I spoke to locals. I only interviewed Chicagoans, several of whom are black and had supported him and had been really excited about him when he was elected, like most people in Chicago were. I certainly wasn't, but most Chicagoans were. And then just how disappointed they've been. And disappointed on the merits of. Right. Not just in terms of substance and style, but on the merits. And they're particularly in two aspects. One is that he didn't deliver at all on prosperity to regular working people that he claimed to represent. In fact, he did exactly the opposite. So that's his first really awful legacy. His economic prosperity was only delivered to the tiniest slice of connected, credentialed cronies of his in the United States. And he's the opposite, you know, in that way, of what he claimed to be. And then the other aspect is, what has he done post presidency, which we really get into, never goes back to Chicago. You never see him doing public service. Instead just lives a life of Martha's Vineyard and the jet set and Hollywood and Netflix and so forth. That is what he has chosen to do. And by the way, too, if I could add one third actually in. He's a man who, though he was the first black president of the United States, made race relations in America markedly worse. He took what was an amazing opportunity and a platform that really could have accelerated racial healing, which was already going on in a really substantial way in the United States when he was elected, and he reversed it. He literally took us in the opposite direction. He agitated. He divided at every turn. And I think that legacy matters for us still today. That's why it's worth examining who is Barack really? Who is he? Let's expose him. And then in light of these new revelations from Tulsi Gabbard, perhaps even more important to be honest about who Barack Obama is.

Unknown Speaker (55:11)

Yeah. And I think it also helps to undercut this whole new left wing populist surge, right. The AOCs and the Bernie's, the idea that they've helped the working class they never could because they can never touch what I guess is their equivalent of, of the third or maybe even fourth rail, which is immigration, particularly illegal immigration because there are two, as you were just talking about, got caught up in the sort of identity politics, the I guess, hey, I guess if you think the United States of America has stolen land, then it's going to be a little hard for you to support mass deportation. Steve Speaking of that, if you can hang with us through the break, I want to double down on the war room's defense, not just of why we need all the Epstein documents and why we probably need at least some trials, probably criminal prosecutions for everyone involved in the Russiagate stuff, why we need to keep hammering Maria Salazar and all of these horrible open borders GOP rhino types who are trying to subvert maga. Guess we got another we'll call it instead of Russia gate, amnesty gate. Well, we don't want amnesty. We want big beautiful walls and mass deportations, not just for criminals and not strategic. And we certainly don't want to allow illegal farm workers to stay here here just because big business wants that. We'll be right back after the short break. Steve Cortez, Mike Benz, Naomi Wolf.

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