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Episode 4651: Obama Responds To Treason Allegations; DOJ To Meet With Maxwell
Episode 4651: Obama Responds To Treason Allegations; DOJ To Meet With Maxwell ...
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Natalie Winters
President, do you support the Justice Department.
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Donald Trump
Seeking a new interview with Elaine Maxwell?
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Stephen K. Bannon
Did you urge the attorney general to see.
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Donald Trump
I don't know anything about it. They're going to what, meet her?
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Natalie Winters
They're going to.
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Mike Lindell
There's.
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Natalie Winters
Your deputy Attorney general is reached out.
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Donald Trump
To Ghislaine Maxwell's attorney asking for a new interview. Yeah, I don't know about it, but I think it's something that would be. Sounds appropriate to do. Yeah.
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Natalie Winters
Do you have any concern that your.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Deputy attorney general is your former attorney would be conducting the interview given?
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Donald Trump
No, I have no concern. He's very. He's a very talented person. He's very smart. I didn't know that they were going to do it. I don't really follow that too much. It's sort of a witch hunt. Just a continuation of the witch hunt. The witch hunt that you should be talking about is they caught President Obama absolutely cold. Tulsi Gabbard. What they did to this country in 2016, starting in 2016, but going up all the way, going up to 2020 of the election. They tried to rig the election and they got caught. And there should be very severe consequences for. You know, when we caught Hillary Clinton, I said, you know what, let's not. Let's not go too far here. It's the ex wife of a president, and I thought it was sort of terrible and I let her off the hook and I'm very happy I did. But it's time to start. After what they did to me and whether it's right or wrong, it's time to go after people. Obama has been caught directly. So people say, oh, you know, a group. It's not a group, it's Obama. His orders are on the paper. The papers are signed. The papers came right out of their office. They sent everything to be highly classified. Well, the highly classified has been released. And what they did in 2016 and in 2020 is very criminal. It's criminal at the highest level. So that's really the things you should be talking about. I know nothing about the other, but I think it's appropriate that they do go.
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Mike Lindell
May I ask you about that, Mr. President?
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Ian Trottier
Tulsi Gabbard has submitted a criminal referral.
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Mike Benz
To the Department of Justice.
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Natalie Winters
From your perspective, who should the doj.
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Mike Benz
As part of their investigation, what specific.
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Mike Lindell
Figures in the Obama administration?
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Donald Trump
Well, based on what I read, and I read pretty much what you read, it would be President Obama. He started it, and Biden was there with him and Comey was there and Clapper, the whole group Was there, Brennan. They were all there in a room right here. This was the room. This is much more beautiful than it was then. But that's okay. I have nice pictures up. They came out of the vaults. They were in there for 100. This is much more beautiful. We have the Declaration of Independence now in the room which wasn't here. I guess people didn't feel too good about putting it here, but I do. But you know what? If you look at that, those papers, they have them stone cold. And it was President Obama. It wasn't lots of people all over the place. It was them too. But the leader of the gang was President Obama. Barack Hussein Obama. Have you heard of him? And except for the fact that he gets shielded by the press for his entire life, that's the one they look, he's guilty. It's not a question, you know, I like to say let's give it time. It's there. He's guilty. They this was treason. This was every word you can think of. They tried to steal the election. They tried to obfuscate the election. They did things that nobody's ever even imagined. Even in other countries, you've seen some pretty rough countries. This man has seen some pretty rough countries, but you've never seen it anything like that. And we have all of the documents and from what Tulsi told me, she's got thousands of additional documents coming. So President Obama, it was his concept, his idea, but he also got it from crooked Hillary Clinton. Crooked is a three dollar bill. Hillary Clinton and her group, the Democrats, spent $12 million to Christopher Steele to write up a report that was a total fake report. Took two figure that out. But it came out that it was a total fake report. It was made up fiction. And they used that. The one thing they weren't able to do was to. And probably the only thing I respect about the press in years is the press refused to write it before the election. They refused to put it in. The Steele report was a disaster. All lies, all fabrication, all admitted and admitted fraud. She paid $12 million and the Democrats for that report to a wise guy named Christopher Steele. He wrote a phony report and they wanted to get that report in before the election. And I'll tell you what I talk about all the time, the fake news, how bad it is. But in this case, they wouldn't do it. They saw it, they read it and they said, we don't believe it. And it was only after substantially like a month and a half after the election that it got printed and it Was a big whisper. It was just like a bang of nothing because the election had ended, had gotten published by the New York Times or somebody. And I respect the Times for maybe only this because they're crooked as you can be. They're a terrible paper, a crooked, corrupt paper. But for this one moment they said, this is. We can't put this in. And neither could any other paper. Wall Street Journal is a lousy paper. Very, very dishonest paper. As you see, I'm suing them for a lot of money because they do things very badly. It's a really. It's got a nice name, but it's really, in my opinion, it's a terrible paper and it can be corrupt. But just so you know, they didn't take the Steele report. It was the dossier, remember the famous dossier? I called it the fake news dossier. The News wouldn't publish it and I'm amazed. They had two and a half months. It was finished. Two and a half months. That was supposed to be what was going to happen. And it got published a couple of months after the election and frankly, nobody cared too much about it. But that was a big thing. No, no, we caugh Hillary Clinton, we got Barack Hussein Obama. They're the ones. And then you have many, many people under them. Susan Rice. They're all there. The names are all there. And I guess they figured they're going to put this in classified information and nobody will ever see it again. But it doesn't work that way. And it's the most unbelievable thing I think I've ever read. So you ought to take a look at that and stop talking about nonsense because this is big stuff. Never has a thing like this happened. The history of our country. And by the way, it morphed into the 2020 race. And the 2020 race was rigged. And it was. It was a rigged election. And because it was rigged, we have millions of people in our country. We have. We had inflation. We solved the inflation problem. But millions and millions of people came into our country because of that. And people that shouldn't have been. People from gangs and from jails and from mental institutions. People that we don't want in our country and people that we're getting out. Dangero people. 11,888 murderers, many of them 50% more than 50% murdered more than one person. I hate to say this with such a distinguished guest, but, you know, they asked me a question. I got to answer the question. No, Barack Hussein Obama is the ringleader. Hillary Clinton was right there with him. And so was sleepy Joe Biden. And so were the rest of them. Comey Clapper, the whole group. Group. And they tried to rig an election and they got caught. And then they did rig the election in 2020. And then because I knew I won that election by a lot, I did it a third time and I won in a landslide. Every swing state won the popular vote, but I won that all the same way in 2020. And look at the damage that was caused.
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Mike Lindell
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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Natalie Winters
And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish.
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Stephen K. Bannon
That any of these people had a conscience.
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Mike Lindell
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Natalie Winters
War room.
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Ian Trottier
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Natalie Winters
You're in the war room. It's Tuesday, July 22nd, in the year of our Lord 2025. It's Natalie Winters hosting, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon on today. Frankly, a historic day for what's gone down in the Oval Office that was obviously President Trump just delivering a blistering, brutal takedown of everything that Obama and his deep St. Apparatchiks engaged in him against, whether it was the Russia collusion hoax. As we know, that is the tip of the iceberg. Now, I mentioned Obama. We also got Steve down the line, who's going to join us momentarily. I would never interrupt or get in the way of a Steve Bannon hot take, except in this very rare occasion when we have some breaking news coming from Barack Obama himself, issuing a very rare statement, which I will read in full for you. And then we'll bring on Steve to give his takes by phone. Here we go. Out of reach respect for the office of the presidency. Our office does not normally dignify the constant nonsense and misinformation flowing out of this White House with a response. But these claims are outrageous enough to merit one. These bizarre allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt, a distraction. Nothing in the document issued last week undercuts the widely accepted conclusion that Russia worked to influence the 2016 presidential election, but did not successfully manipulate any votes. These findings were affirmed in a 2020 report by the bipartisan, bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee led by then chairman Marco Rubio. Some people might say that sounds like a strong statement. I would say that sounds like, shall we quote the worm and show a primal scream of a dying regime. Don't tell us you're not scared, Obama. Steve, I think we have you joining us by phone. You've got about four minutes. I don't know if you have a show clock. Give us your take on everything going down since, since this morning.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Thank you. Thank you, Natalie. I'm actually going to be back in time to do the six o' clock show with Joe, but thanks for having me on here. Look, today's a historic day. What the President did today in the Oval Office in front of a head of state and a head of state who's really a most important ally in our fight against the Chinese Communist Party. And on global television, called out for the first time in our history another president, another commander in chief for high treatment and named the co conspirators and took, I think if I clocked that right about nine minutes and came back to it two or three times and reiterated and walked through the whole plot. And what's even more jaw dropping than that is Obama actually took the bait and responded today. This is how concerned Barack Obama is about these charges. They actually put out a statement. So it's game on right now. And this could not get, this could not get more serious. What's so interesting about their statement? It's another bold faced lie. Remember, three or four weeks after this group met, they decided to, or right around that time, they decided to throw out 73, I think Russian diplomats and senior officials. So they the first. And this is how they were manufacturing the evidence. They made it up that it was direct interference to help Trump. That's a total lie. They manufactured the ica. They had the Washington Post in on it. David Ignat is in on it, the entire team over there. And this thing's exploding. And it's exploding enough, Natalie, that Obama felt compelled to have his spokesman actually give a response. Because like I said, Trump did it in the Oval Office, in front of a visiting head of state and on global television because this thing's gone all over the world. I'd love to stick around for a little bit of the next block, Natalie, if you can fit me in, I know we got a bunch of guests, but this is a huge day today.
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Natalie Winters
Well, luckily when it's your show, I think we can always make time for You, I think the audience would love to have you on. You've got about a minute and a half left. I'm just curious, maybe keep it short, but obviously we love the rhetoric coming out of the Oval Office Office today. But in terms of squaring that with actual action, do you see any positive movement on that front?
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, my understanding is that they're thinking about a special counsel. As you know, the DOJ is pretty overwhelmed, even on the Epstein situation. It looks like the baton's been passed to the deputy ag, Todd Blanche. They're already into the courts. The courts have responded, I think already with, hey, you got to be more specific if you want us to unseal the grand jury testimony. So it's into a process. My understanding is about the FBI and other DOJ officials are all over this right now. More importantly, I hear, Natalie, that there are literally hundreds of whistleblowers coming forward and blowing up the phones over DNI to provide even more information. So Obama is nervous and you see Brennan and these guys on TV every day trying to dismiss these charges by spin. But Obama being called out in name is nervous enough to put out a statement.
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Natalie Winters
Yeah, I'd wager too obviously they can't institute a whole impeachment inquiry since they don't run the House. So we know they've always sort of opted to go the leaking route and sabotaging it that way. So I can see some interesting stuff probably starting to come out of ODNI to try to sabotage everything they're doing on this investigation. Frontline, Steve, I'm sure you can hang with us. I know the audience would love that. But Warren Posse don't go anywhere. We've got an absolutely packed show. Mike Benz, the guy who wrote sort of the, the I would say seminal book on all things Brennan, quite the timely release on that one. Mike Howell on the latest in terms of Epstein and Congress, why we need to get those documents released. We'll be right back. More at Steve Bannon after this short break.
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Mike Lindell
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Mike Benz
So don't wait.
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Natalie Winters
Download the Getter app now. Sign up for free and be part of the movement. You're back in the war room. It's Natalie Winters hosting, but don't go anywhere. We still got Steve Bannon joining us down the phone. Steve, I know you got a few more minutes of content which, hey, if you want to take the whole block, go ahead. I'm sure the audience would love us. Love it. But hit us with the latest.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Natalie, it's too, this is too historic, too explosive. I'm back with Joe Allen. Tomorrow, the AI action plans release. We're going to be all over that. But today's a historic day. The president accusing a former commander in chief, a former president of high treason. That president having a spokesman respond. So it's game on. I think it's fantastic, your show. You got it passed. And plus, I think our next guest, I believe has the most exquisitely timed book, at least this year in all publishing a major expose on Brennan. And people have to understand Brennan is a central figure in this. Obama and Hillary at the top. But you got Brennan, Clapper and Comey all around it. So take it away and I'll see you guys at six.
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Natalie Winters
And Steve, one sec before you go, if we still have you, do we still have Steve? Steve doesn't sound like right here you're here. I know you hate AI, but did you like the AI video of Obama getting arrested that President Trump posted on Truth Social?
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Stephen K. Bannon
Well, here's the thing. Whether I like it or not, I put it up on Getter and we also played it the other day in one of the cold opens at the end, I said the thing's too good. Particularly today, the president listen as you, you asked the most important question. Are we going to see any action on this? Are we going to see anybody in DOJ and FBI driving this to get to indictments, to get to prosecutions, to get to trials and convictions? That is the question Trump said right there. We don't need a long process. All the evidence is here. And so what I thought was, you know, particularly today, after President Trump put that up, it showed you he just not mean, honey. Today he basically said not basically. He said a former commander in chief and president states was guilty of high treason. And he used the word guilty. So in Obama, by Obama responding, you know how serious they're taking this. You've seen Brennan and these guys on TV every night spinning it, dismissing it. They ain't dismissing it now because it's game on.
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Natalie Winters
Yeah, maybe Obama will stop going on the podcast telling people to have gay friends. He's gonna hunker down and go into the witness protection program. Steve Bannon, thank you for joining me on your own show. Always an honor you. We'll see you back in the 6pm thank you, ma'.
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Donald Trump
Am.
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Natalie Winters
Speaking of treason, like Steve was saying, probably the best timed book that has ever been released. The author of it joins me now. That's Ian Trottier, author of High Stakes Treason. It's really focusing particularly on Brennan, but the broader kind of deep stuff, deep state I see working together to sabotage and really neuter President Trump, Trump's first administration, with the original sin being the idea that he was a Russian agent. But you have some unique and exclusive sourcing as to how you did this book, Ian. I'll let you take it away, but just sort of frame it through the lens. You hear the word treason thrown around a lot. Why do you think that that is justifiable to use in this setting, particularly against Brennan?
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Mike Benz
Yeah. So thank you, Natalie. What is alleged and the contents of this book is that the former head of the CIA, John Brennan, literally manipulated what are called code word compartments in the NSA to allow stock increase and something called the Analysis Corporation to increase in funding through Congress. I'll try to micronize this and put it very simply, but he allowed having knowledge of of three different terrorist attacks. He allowed these to happen at the expense of American lives. One of the most notable ones would be the Boston Marathon bombing. Now, how this equates back to Barack Obama is this and this is a direct quote off the book's website, which is highstakestriason.com. how this equates back to Obama is from my source, quote, they illegally.
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Ian Trottier
Is.
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Mike Benz
Probably Brennan's true motivation for arranging the Russian collusion hoax. It is credibly suspect that he feared then President Trump, so this is back in the previous administration, would reveal the very treasonous criminal scheme he engineered while serving as the head of the CIA under Barack Obama. So what we're looking at is the allegation here that John Brennan was basically, in a sense, could be in a sense, pigeonholed by the former President Barack Obama to withhold certain information. And the book goes into detail in regards to why he was granted an ethics waiver and certain information not disclosed used in the financial disclosures. And we talk about Rachel Molinaro and some other key players. So why the book has the title Treason in it, very simply because here is an employee, a governmental employee at the highest levels of the government that is knowingly, allegedly knowingly withholding information from the employer. And that would be the American people at their expense. And that is an allegation and a crime of treason. He makes him an enemy of the state as far as I'm concerned, and as far as I argue. And the stakes are incredibly high. Right. So that is why we've chosen we being Post Hill Press, Bombardier Publishing. That is why we've chosen that title, because the allegation is that he committed very treasonous acts against the country. There are further elements of surprise. Roger Stone has written a foreword to the book. There are further elements of surprise for readers, and most notably would be his knowledge and his granting of passports to the 911 hijackers, and of course, his ties to communism and his conversion religiously to Islam. So those are things that have been thrown around for many years, Natalie, but they resurface. Why? Because as Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel are now looking into criminal activity happening during the Obama administration and relating them back to the former head of the CIA, John Brennan, we're finding that some of these things indeed were done against the best interest of the country and certainly at the expense of American lives. So the book was just released this morning. Natalie shot it over to Steve. He's known about it now for a couple of months, easily a couple of months. But now that the book is in print, it is circulating. So that's the best answer.
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Natalie Winters
We've got a few minutes and I just, I want to follow up because these are obviously some very explosive Damning allegations. Some are new, some have been out there for a while. But could you maybe explain to the audience a little bit about your. Your sourcing methodology, how you came to this? And I think maybe what the logical question would be. These are such explosive, damning, I think, consequential allegations about people who essentially ran this country. Was this information that was intentionally suppressed? Was this information that you and your sources found? How did you come to this?
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Mike Benz
Yeah, so what I'd like to do is I'd like to invite my source who approached me two years ago to join the program at a future date. I was at a CPAC convention. I started the podcast in Miami in 2016. And simply, this was a story that was brought to. Brought my way at a D.C. cPAC two years ago. The gentleman that approached me identified himself as a former FBI agent, having worked with the FBI for 12 years. He was let go by the FBI even though he had been awarded a prestigious award, in my view, prestigious award by the Bureau. He was let go for, in my opinion, digging too deep, a la Anthony Sutton at the Stanford Hoover institute in the 70s. The story that he brought forward to me captivated my interest, and I knew that there was certainly strong merit to what he had uncovered as an open source analyst at the time. So he wasn't working with the FBI when he came across this information. He was working again for the public sector, if you will. And what stuck out to me, Me. What stuck out to me was various things about the financial disclosures that he had dug up regarding John Brennan. And as he conveyed the story to me, and the gentleman's name is John Donovan, as he conveyed the story to me, he kept saying, ian, I was wondering why this, why this is happening, right? Why this person would be doing these types of things in a covert level at the White House under the Obama watch. And he said, ian, it dawned on me that he was simply doing it for financial gain. Natalie, if we backtrack to very layman's terms, when I began the podcast and I started looking into various elements of government corruption, it was always, well, follow the money. Why do people do various things in life, typically to survive and augment themselves economically?
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Natalie Winters
And we're having some difficulties and we're coming up against the break. So I think we're gonna have to get you on again and get, get your tax situation sorted out. People can see the book, if people want to purchase it, follow you and stay up to date with everything you're working on. Where can they go to do that?
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Mike Benz
Highstakes treason.com or iantratier.com high stakes treason.com.
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Natalie Winters
Thank you sir for joining us and congratulations on the book. Very, very timely. I guess with all the things that Deep State has done to try to suppress this movement, you probably could release a book every single day for the next several decades and it would still be a timely release. But you know, the best Release is always vertical.com Bannon or texting Bannon29898 Getting the latest installment, the Guide to Gold in the Trump Era. We'll be right back. Mike Benz after this short break.
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Ian Trottier
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Natalie Winters
You're back in the war room out of the winters hosting. We are joined by the one and only Mike Benz who had a special request to come on the evening show because I guess the morning show, which is 10 to 12 Eastern Time, so it's not that early, apparently does not work with your business sleep schedule. But I digress.
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Ian Trottier
In the morning show, I am in my sarcophagus. The vampire comes out a day.
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Natalie Winters
There are some. Well, you know what we need to put in the sarcophagus is the UN Censorship complex which the Trump administration is trying to do. How's that for a segue? By withdrawing from who, UNESCO, all of these weird, euphemistic, shady sounding supranational government entities that want to rob us of our sovereignty. Try to put that in an acronym. I don't know if you can or if it sounds as punchy, but they are punching back, launching some new interesting dis and misinformation, whatever it is initiatives kind of in the same day that we're withdrawing. I'll let you take it away and just sort of explain it in your Ben's approach that you always can, why we should be focusing on this.
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Ian Trottier
Yes. So frequently people ask me and when I talk about the censorship industrial complex to give a scorecard to the Trump administration about how well it's doing on free speech. And there has been an incredible amount of progress on the domestic, on what can be immediately fixed within the domestic US Government agencies between usaid, the State Department, the Pentagon, censorship funding, the National Science foundation, dhs, FBI, even the CIA information integrity programs. And I would rate an A for the Trump admin on that. The issue is, is we are well beyond the level at which this battle was being fought from 2016 to 2020. This is a war that has gone global. And as the Trump administration took power, many of these international organizations or foreign governments who are working with the Biden administration have continued to push the envelope on Internet censorship policies. And these include the EU through something called the Digital Services act, which you should think of as the Digital Censorship act, which imposes massive fines on US companies if they allow any speech that the EU deems disinformation. We see just this week that Brazil has now criminalized the act of sharing any videos or interviews of their most recent President Bolsonaro, who was hugely Trump aligned. And we see international organizations like for example the United nations who have put together these international money guns in order to fund the same NGOs and for profit censorship mercenary groups that were previously funded by the Biden State Department and usaid. And one of those is UNESCO. And this is the sort of unit Education and Science branch. And this is a very cute little linguistic trick because you never see something like UNESCO coming. UNESCO spends hundreds of millions of dollars pumping up countering misinformation groups, so called digital resilience, which is psychological resilience against fake news. And it's every pet project of the un, who, the World Bank. Basically they, they censor your opinions on public health, on Covid, on climate, on open borders, you name it. If there is a pet globalist policy, UNESCO is a giant money gun that just sprays $20 bills into a crowd of cheering censorship operatives in order to take the money and run with it so they can censor your voice. And just today the State Department proudly pulled out of UNESCO, which is a huge first step in that process, I think as well, diplomatic pressure should be applied by the US Ambassador to the un, who is now Mike Waltz, after he was previously the National Security Adviser, in order to be apprised of the massive threat to free speech the UN represents. The UN recently declared a global standard of principles. They called it their Global Principles on Information Integrity, which was was a dedicated principles piece about Internet censorship in order to stop free speech on social media. And these included a dedicated plan from the United Nations Working Group to to go after online advertisers to deprive alternative news websites of advertising revenue. This is not the sort of thing that the US can ignore without applying its own diplomatic toolkit to fight back against it. We've seen this has been very effective in the past in Canada. When Canada tried to pass a 3% digital tax on US technology companies, Trump walloped them with a threat of 50% tariffs and they backed off of it. When the UK tried to enforce its Online Harms act against US tech companies with tens of millions of dollars of fees, the Trump White House stepped in. And it's going to need to continue to be this way until the international community gets the message that we will protect free speech with the full toolkit of the US diplomatic muscle.
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Natalie Winters
Just curious, looking less so at the Trump administration's response, but just isolating what the UN and those, you know, other sort of globalist anti free speech organizations are doing. Do you think that in response to a lot of these withdrawals or just, you know, ceasing the funding for these programs, like how have they recalibrated or reoriented their strategy on the censorship front to sort of circumvent the traditional levers of power that they were used to having access to, certainly under Biden, certainly under Obama, but certainly the last four years.
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Ian Trottier
Well, for one, the Trump administration should be commended because the U.S. money side of the UN plays a similar role in the UN as it does in NATO, in the sense that many of these international UN funded institutions, or funded through these UN subgroups, most of the money will come from the U.S. what has happened in this case is they have tried to offset the money by combination of diving deeper into the private money donor networks. The Bill Gates types, the Gates Foundation, Bill Gates just announced, announced $200 billion in aggregate spend on the Gates foundation over the next 20 years. So that's $10 billion a year. It was a major event several years ago when I think George Soros had a net worth of about 20 billion, 20 to 40 billion. Bill Gates is many, many times that. And his pledge 200 billion. So he is reaching in to essentially be the USAID officer. You also see other private donor networks like the Omidyar foundation, the Knight foundation, the Ford foundation, trying to step up into the USAID funding vacuum in order to offset that. The other part of it is that the EU itself is opening whole new grant pools in order to try to offset the US and what they're hoping is that when Trump goes away in 2028, that there will be a. They're basically trying to put a bandaid on a bullet hole here and that they can sort of stop the bleeding for a little bit and these institutions can keep going even at a somewhat limited capacity, because the money gun will turn back on when Trump leaves. Which is why it's so important, I think, for people who believe in free speech to continue the movement that the Trump era has started and galvanized in order to ensure in perpetuity that at least we're not funding our own censorship. At least if they're going to try to silence us, they're going to have to pay out of their own pockets to try.
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Natalie Winters
And just give us the latest. Your thoughts. I'm sure you saw Obama's response to President Trump's beat down in the Oval Office today, where we sort of stand on the Russiagate, the docks, even declassifying the MLK stuff yesterday. Just that general effort to expose, shall we say, a lot of deep state nefarious activities.
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Ian Trottier
Well, the ball is now squarely in Pam Bondi's court. There's been a criminal referral by Tulsi Gabbard at ODNI about the criminal conspiracy that appears to be manifest from these declassifications. There is the lingering question about what level of accountability to seek and who and how to structure that case. I think that Pam Bondi has an unenviable job right now torn between the Epstein affair, the Russiagate affair. I think that Pam Bondi probably wanted to do business as normal, you know, in terms of just running the criminal justice day to day affairs of the Justice Department. And now things are getting very hot on many fronts. Obviously, if you bring a case in D.C. against someone like Obama or John Brennan or the like, you're going to get a hometown jury where you have something like 93% democrat jury pool. And so I think any way that you can get that jurisdiction, if you were to bring a case in a court in Florida, for example, to the extent that they targeted Trump or used these predicates to raid Trump's house or the like to get it out of D.C. i think is a really important step in structuring such a case. The fact is there does need to be accountability. We have now gone to so many wars, we have now had so many crooked twists of our own foreign policy decision making because of cooked intelligence. Cooked intelligence has got to be a crime because if you rely on that intelligence to go to war or to use sanctions policy against a foreign country or to fundamentally change the nature of US diplomacy. Internet censorship was only brought to the United States because of Russiagate. That was the reason that the CIA and FBI and DHS justified cracking down on and infiltrating US social media companies was because of some total bull shish kebab, bullshish kebab that was concocted in a friggin lab by Barack Obama, John Brennan, James Comey and Loretta Lynch. There should be if so, so I mean I think that class action lawsuits might be appropriate for this sort of thing. That these revelations they have to have, someone needs to be held up as a symbol that the next time our crooked spooks in the intel world think that they can just cook intelligence to permanently change the trajectory of US foreign policy and domestic affairs, that there's someone they can point to that they don't want to end up like. And that process has to begin now.
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Natalie Winters
Now. Mike Benz, as always, thank you so much for coming on the show. If people want to follow you in the meantime before we have you back on, which something tells me will be very soon, where can they go to do that?
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Ian Trottier
Find me on X at Mike Ben Cyber also YouTube Rumble the Works.
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Natalie Winters
Thank you sir. I would also add to what Mike said that I think the journalists who have hoax after hoax peddled, the lies coming from the likes of Brennan and Clapper all the way probably top with Obama that they should face some form of charges too. I was talking with Steve in the break, but those three Washington Post journalists, it's very interesting. Two of them, Ellen Nakashima and the other guy, Greg, I think the other one departed to go work at the New York Times, but they have been essentially the go to journalists on every single byline. Whether it was the Hunter Biden stuff, the first impeachment of President Trump, the anonymous whistleblower saying that President Trump pressured Zelensky in that now infamous phone call in the same way that Natasha Bertrand is the reporter that's always getting those leaks or who was it at the Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg. Not just the signal stuff but also the, you know, Trump and the Hitler generals and the saying he didn't care about dead soldiers, which was of course, amplified by Brennan and Clapper and that whole squad all over msnbc. But those people should face consequences, dare I say retribution, too. And I guess my only other suggestion, when President Trump says it's the 2016 and 2020 election, it's also the 2024 election. Not just because they tried to keep you off the ballot. They obviously peddled hoax and hoax again. They tried to replay the Christopher Steele stuff. I believe the headline from the Post was the Steele Dossier Author Promises More Trump Dirt. Will anyone buy it? No. The answer is a resounding no. But I think the reason why this matters and frankly, why it ties into the Epstein stuff is because it ties into the 2028 and every future election and consequential election, too, because you won't have elections. That's the biggest takeaway, right? Doesn't matter who you vote for if his entire authority is going to be completely neutered, nullified and stripped away from him by a band of unelected, despotic people like Brennan and Clapper. Just awful. We'll be right back. Mike Howell, after the break.
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Mike Lindell
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Donald Trump
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Natalie Winters
Welcome back to the war room. There's obviously a lot of movement on Fed Chair Powell. I think we're going to have the guys from CRA on soon to go through a lot of that. We were supposed to have him on today, but we have such a busy show. That's why you go always have to be checking out birchgold.com banner texting ban into 989-898 just a quick call. You can get the latest installment of their Gold guide. In the Trump era with all the turbulence, gold has always been a hedge. So give Philip Patrick and the team a call. We've got Mike Howell on who I wanted to bring on if we had time left. Hit the Epstein stuff later. But you flagged something that I think this audience is going to be really passionate, passionate about, especially when it comes to our anti amnesty fight, particularly what GOP rhino, you know the type was appointed to essentially or elected rather to chair the House Homeland Security Committee. Can you walk us through this development?
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Mike Howell
Yes. So Mark Green, who's the chairman as of a couple days ago, resigned early to take a job in the private sector. Left an opening and ultimately a decision with Speaker Johnson and what is known as a steering committee. They opted to pick a member, Andrew Gabarino, who has a record of supporting amnesty and other kind of way more moderate takes I guess we'll charitably call them. He voted for to establish the January 6th Commission Committee rather and also voted for Biden's infrastructure bill. And so that was in favor of voting for somebody actually aligned with President Trump and anti amnesty and Representative Clay Higgins. Why this is important is because we know that there's a real bail, big threat of amnesty coming down the pike. Legislation's already been introduced. There have been various nods coming out of various administration officials. And so when you add to the mix one of the most senior officials in the entire House in charge of homeland Security legislation who has a record being supportive of amnesty and explicitly saying he agrees with Chuck Schumer. It's unfortunate to report I think the threat of a legislative amnesty push just got a lot more serious.
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Natalie Winters
Mike, we'll have you back on because I think this is important. But in the meantime, is there anything that the posse can do in terms of phone calls to maybe reverse this or at least ameliorate it somehow or. You guys are always at the tip of the spear when it comes to investigations. Where can they go to check out everything you guys are working on and support what you're doing?
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Donald Trump
Yeah.
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Mike Howell
Most important thing is keep sounding the alarm that amnesty in any form will not be tolerated. Follow us on X at it's your gov and I'm at MHOW tweets and we're going to be sound that alarm right along with you.
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Natalie Winters
Thank you sir. No Amnesty. I thought we didn't have to argue for this anymore. I don't like these shifting goalposts. I thought that that should be a given. We're just fighting to go to zero. This is not a net positive. Thank you Mike. We'll have you back on. We are joined real quick by Trevor Comstock, one of our great sponsors. Trevor, you guys always are working on cool new supplements over there. Give the audience against the latest with everything. You guys got.
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Natalie Winters
You for joining us Trevor. We'll have you back on.
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Natalie Winters
Before we go to Mike Lindell, just some concluding thoughts. There's a clip that I think maybe they'll play in the six but you know, at the point in which these, shall we say, grievous injustices not just against President Trump but the MAGA movement more broadly are allowed to continue to the point where they can be declassified and released in the, you know, open public to the American people. And if they can still get away with it and no charges are brought or no actual. Yes, I'm going to say the word retribution, though we call it justice here in the war Room actually materializes, then I think it's essentially just scoring own goals. And it's almost sad and weak in a way, to the point where we're showing what the deep state can get away with. Totally unaccounted. We're basically making the case for them that they're so powerful that they can treat us this way. We can both out it in the public court of public opinion. And nothing's going to happen to them. You're just going to embolden them to keep doing it and doing it and doing it again. And let's juxtapose that. I mean, what Doge and the Trump administration weren't even allowed to, barely could go into USAID without complete apoplexy in the entire city of Washington, D.C. to fire a few unelected bureaucrats at an agency where they were working on, I don't know, three things, frankly, pretty detrimental to the United States of America. I guess the euphemistic spin that it was just, you know, tranny operas in Columbia, but really problematic programs. And think about the pushback that those unelected bureaucrats are the people that they had their praetorian guard. Meanwhile, you have Brennan and Clapper, the whole squad, the whole crew, the whole cabal up there subverting the will of an elected president by you guys. And they get away with it. So I'm all for declassification, but declassification means nothing if nothing happens on the other side of it. So we'll be waiting for you, Pam Bondi. I'm sure we are all waiting for Mike Lindell, who's gonna take us out of this show. Mike Lindell. You got about a minute and a half. The posse loves Michael and hit us with the latest you've got going on.
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