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Episode 4653: Work Through The Summer Recess; Disrupting The Gov Game
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Stephen K. Bannon
WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen k.
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Senator Ron Johnson
Ban.
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Steve Bannon
Wednesday 23rd July, year of alert 2025. I want to thank Senator Hawley, John Solomon, Mike Davis and the credible first hour. Also, we're streaming the the human trafficking conference. As soon as they open up at all on the AI summit, we'll get on to that. But we'll cover the president's speech live for 5 o' clock this afternoon and we'll have commentary and analysis afterwards. The action plan is out. Joe Allen's going through it right now. The AI action plan will make sure we break that down here shortly. Senator Ron Johnson joins us, an icon of the MAGA movement. So, Senator Johnson, a couple of things. Because you're, you're known as one of the hardest working guys in the Senate, people were kind of confused. President Trump, there's 4,000 he can appoint right away to go into government. 1,000 basically have to be confirmed by the Senate. He's not getting any of his appointments done. And it seems like the Democrats, we just heard that they're filibustering everything, yet we're not working all the time. We're looking to take a recess, which people don't understand. Can you explain to our audience what in the hell is going on here?
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Senator Ron Johnson
Well, it is somewhat complicated, but there's no doubt. I mean, the simplest explanation is the Democrats, in an unprecedented fashion, are blocking confirmation nominees. And historically, a lot of these nominees are confirmed by unanimous consent. You don't have to vote on them. We're having to run the clock on every nominee. Again, they are trying, the Democrats are trying to obstruct, just like they did in Trump's first term, do everything they can to sabotage his administration, really, to the detriment of the American public. So it's sick. I think we need to do a better job of pointing out exactly how obstructive the Democrats are. I think it may just boil down to taking the recess and a massive recess appointment. Because even if we stay here and we run the clock, you can do a couple every couple hours. You know, it's still not filling these positions. I personally think the confirmation process is completely out of control. I don't care who the president is. I think the president elections matter. They ought to be able to staff the administration. As you point out, they can staff the lower level positions, but you still have over 1,000 confirmations. It's absurd. I can see a couple hundred, but that's where we are. We're going to have to deal with this. I'm totally supportive. I'll stick around if that's what it's going to take. But President Trump ought to be able to staff his administration just to start getting control over these bureaucracies. You know, we've got a problem in the Department of Justice. We certainly have a problem within hhs. I know that the political appointees want radical transparency, but the bureaucrats, the deep staters, are really blocking that from happening.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, you're considered a steady pair of hands, safe pair of hands. You just dropped a bombshell. Are you saying if Thune and you guys can't work this out, that there have been so and we haven't pushed enough how obstructionist they are? We are today about letting people know what's happening. You're saying, hey, heck with it. Have Thune call a recess and let Trump do massive recess appointments.
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Senator Ron Johnson
Sir, that's what I would do. Then he could fill these positions again. They have a limited amount of time. They can serve for about a year. We can be confirming them over that year as opposed to just, you know, working slowly like a snail through this process. You know, a couple votes every couple hours. I mean, if you run around the clock, even during honest recess, you're not going to get through the backlog. So I think we need to clear this backlog again. I'm happy to do whatever. If we've got to stick around here, I'll stick around, but I just, I don't even think that would be adequate. We need to call out the Democrats for their obstruction. This is grotesque what they're doing. They should be paying a political price for their obstruction, not allowing a duly elected President of the United States to staff his administration to honor the promises he made to the American public.
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Steve Bannon
Do you think the President's actually fully in the loop with how obstructionist they're being? Sir.
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Senator Ron Johnson
Listen, President Trump is involved in so many things. Is he aware of the details of, you know, the arcane nature of how the Senate doesn't work? Probably not. But obviously he wants his administration staffed and you know, he's starting to turn his attention to these things. And I think that's why he's calling for us to stick around and get these people confirmed. And again, I think you ought to take a look at the facts. I mean if we hear from around the clock how many people are going to get confirmed, who those people be versus no, take the recess even that Democrats might try and block. I think there's ways to prevent them from blocking us for going to recess so we can do these recess appointments. But I'm for whatever strategy allows President Trump to staff his administration so he can honor the promises he made to the American public.
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Steve Bannon
Okay. To the big beautiful bill and spending cuts. We know that the deficits are too large. You were at the forefront of this. We passed the bill. But there was a assumption among the hardcore MAGA base yourself others to say hey we can't approve some that's going to, we're going to grow our way out of this. But you still got to take care of spending. You passed a historic rescission, although small symbolic. Where do we stand with that? Are there other rescissions? My understanding is is OMB has got stacked up a bunch of additional rescission packages on 25 spending. Not even to the 9 to the 26. Are you working on that? Don't we need a lot more cuts here on spending?
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Senator Ron Johnson
Yeah, absolutely. And you know I've laid out a number of pre pandemic spending options where you look at actual outlays from Clinton in 98, Obama 2014 and Trump in 2019. Let's, let's just concentrate in 2019 and Trump. If you take 2019 spending on other mandatory that excludes Social Security, Medicare and even Medicaid and non defense discretionary, you have $384 billion we're going to spend more this year than we spent in 2019 plussed up for population and Biden's inflation. So again compared to what we actually spent, it's way more than that. But again if you plus up 2019 actual outlays for population and Biden's inflation, there's $384 billion that we're going to spend more this year than we did in 2019. In other mandatory. It's about $1 trillion of other mandatory spending. That's what the unit party has done. They've transferred what should be discretionary into other mandatory. So we don't appropriate. It's appropriate. It's just an automatic spending out of sight, out of mind, out of control. But there's $145 billion in non defense discretionary as well. That's our proprietors ought to be looking at that. And quite honestly, Trump's budget that he proposed is, is pretty much in line with 2019 spending plus up for population inflation. We just need to make sure that our appropriators in the Senate adhere to Trump's skinny budget. And right now, this first appropriation bill we're putting on the floor, military construction, va. It does comply with Trump's skinny budget. So again, we're trying to control through the discretionary appropriation process. But no, we need to do a lot more in probably another reconciliation bill on other mandatory. And again there's again, that's a lot.
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Steve Bannon
So you're, you're arguing for another reconciliation bill when we get back. And this one would focus on cutting spending.
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Senator Ron Johnson
Right. And that's pretty much the assurances I was given by the speaker by Leader Thune, you know, by, by the president's team to set up a budget review process, go line by line, program by program. And Steve, when you literally have gone from 4.4 trillion to $7 trillion of spending when you have 2,600 programs in the federal government, I have to believe if given scrutiny, you can eliminate hundreds of billions of dollars of spending, hundreds of government program, and nobody would even notice. Nobody would notice except for the grifters who are sucking down the waste, fraud, abuse and pork. So we've got to go through that process again. I propose this budget review panel working with omb, House members, Senate members, line by line, program by program. The result of that process will hopefully be another process where we focus on.
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Steve Bannon
How do we get that, how do we get that process because now we have 25 and they're not putting other rescissions packages up. You guys are going on looks like on recess the appropriations for 26 are not done. This looks like a kind of a train wreck. How do you get your hands on this? So we actually have a logical methodology for getting our hands because they love chaos, the spenders love chaos, where there's 10 different, we're going in 10 different directions. How do we actually draw it back to what you were promised to get the big beautiful bill done?
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Senator Ron Johnson
Well, they also like a lack of information where they hold all the cards and nobody knows what's really happening. So it is about information, it's about Getting the public on our side, creating the desire to balance the budget. I'm talking to former Speaker Newt Gingrich, who would love to have a nationwide effort contract to balance the budget. We need to get the public involved in this. They need to understand the fiscal train wreck, the path we are on, how unsustainable it is. We need the President of the United States to lead on this. We need President Trump fully behind this effort. If we can do that, get the public on our side recognizing if we don't, if we don't do this, this is what our future looks like. It's not pretty. If we do it, listen, we can make America great again. And President Trump has made a great start on it, cleaning up a lot of the messes left behind. We've got to focus on spending. As President Trump said in a tweet in 2011, we don't have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem. He's committed to balancing the budget. We've got a long way to go. So we need him really leading this effort.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, we will get with you after the show. We will provide a platform to do that because this platform is unique in getting to the grassroots activists, and you are unique and really explaining this, people. Real quickly, I know the HHS situation. You've got these bureaucracies with some political appointees, but they're controlled by the. By the apparatus that's there. What's going. Because you've been all over HHS is kind of since the pandemic to tell people what's really going on. What in the hell's happening over there?
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Senator Ron Johnson
Well, you know, we issued a friendly subpoena to get documents on, for example, their empirical Bayesian analysis of, you know, the COVID injection. I mean, a host of information. We knew there were over. There were hundreds of thousands of pages, documents responsive to our subpoenaed. We'd only gotten about 17,000. And it wasn't because of a lack of desire on the part of Bobby Kennedy to provide radical transparency. There was just the logjam. You've got the bureaucracy. There's 16 ways on Sunday they can frustrate the people's desire at the top of those agencies to comply with our subpoena. We finally got a document dumped, probably about a million pages. I don't know the exact amount. We finally got that when Bobby just took charge and said, okay, comply with this subpoena. So I think the logjam is broken. That's a lot of work. We've got to go to sift this through, but it's literally the resistance of the deep staters in all of these agencies. Department of justice, he had all these attorneys who couldn't obviously serve under Trump. They quit. Bunch, I think, were terminated because they were partisans. It's very difficult to fill those positions because the lawfare against people like Judge Troupas in Wisconsin, who just represented Trump, and Josh called our Democrat attorney general, is destroying him by trying to criminalize representing the president, United States. So that's very effective. When you destroy people's careers, you make it very unlikely other people are willing to risk their career by serving for short term in an administration. So the left is very effective at sabotaging a Republican administration. That's exactly what they're doing, whether it's appointments and incentivizing people not to join because it'll destroy their careers, or just being a roadblock in terms of what the political appointees actually want to accomplish so the President can honor his promises.
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Sean Parnell
It's.
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Senator Ron Johnson
Listen, the deep state is real. It's pervasive. It's populated by a bunch of radical leftists, which are what the Democrat, which is what the Democrat Party is, is Tulsi Gabbard's.
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Steve Bannon
What DNI is putting forward is that our best shot, at least initially, to take on the deep state and start to break this up, because I agree that I gave the speech in Tampa a week ago, said it's got to be our number one priority. Now, everything we're passing is just, it's great, but they're going to, they're going to, first of all, not executed on President Trump's watch. In addition, they're going to unwind it after we leave. Is that a number one priority for you?
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Senator Ron Johnson
What Tulsi is doing is fabulous. It's about information. People need to be outraged by what, for example, Obama and his henchmen did to sabotage and undermine a duly elected president. We've known a lot of these things. This is adding further documentation to it. But again, what you're seeing is the mainstream media covering this, the lame stream, the legacy of the corporate media. No. So it's got to be up to us, people like you, your format. We've got to get this out there. Our people need to be aware. They need to understand what is happening and they've got to stay involved. We've got to win elections. That's the bottom line. We need to win elections. We need to win the public support.
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Steve Bannon
Senator Johnson, your social media, where do people follow you? Sir, you're on top of so many of the most important issues of the.
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Senator Ron Johnson
Day, we just send Ron Johnson on X is probably where we primarily communicate. So let's go to that.
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Steve Bannon
Perfect. Thank you Senator Johnson. Appreciate you. Senator Johnson just gave you a solution. Either the Democrats start to work with the Republicans to get these folks passed, but like you said, even if you did it all through August, not going to get enough. Just do recess appointments now. It's only for a year. Go into recess. Remember McConnell would never go into recess in Trump's first term. He didn't trust Trump and we never called him out enough. Go to recess with the Senate in the House. Make the appointments on a mass basis, darling, for a year and then work through the next year to get them confirmed. Also the budget situation. Got to get control of this process. Need omb. We need the precision packages now. Short break. Back in a moment. This July there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. The bloc of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Persia are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio Reset. As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US Dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollar in your savings. While this transition won't not happen overnight, but trust me, it's going to start in Rio. The Rio Reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality. Learn if diversifying your savings into gold is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard earned savings into a tax sheltered IRA and precious metals. Claim your free info kit on gold by texting my name Bannon. That's B A N N O N to 989-898 with an A plus rating with the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers led birchgold army with a free no obligation info kit on owning gold before July and the Rio Reset. Text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898 do it today. That's the Rio Reset. Text Bannon at 989-898 and do it today. Download the Getter app right now. It's totally free. It's where I put up exclusively all of my content 24 hours a day. Want to know what Steve Bannon's thinking? Go to Getter. So don't wait. Download the Getter app now. Sign up for free and be part of the movement. Make sure you go to Getter. All our contents up there totally free. Easy to use. Even a moron like me can use it. So you'll be able to use it quite easily. Sean Parnell, the senior spokesman over the Pentagon. Assistant Sean, your Assistant Secretary of Defense for global engagement, or what is it? The public affairs.
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Mike Lindell
Yeah, for public affairs, yeah. It's a long title, but it's an important one nonetheless.
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Steve Bannon
No, it's a huge one. And you're the perfect guy, as we said from the beginning, perfect guy to do this. Listen, thank you for changing your schedule to come on today. It's outrageous having, after I came off sea duty in the 70s on a destroyer with the 7th Fleet, came back to the Pentagon. Back then it was out of control. This many decades later, it's really out of control. This article is a lead story in the Daily Mail this morning. A complete shot at Pete Hegseth, a poison pen letter they didn't have. They didn't even have the letter. They were quoting anonymous sources about an anonymous letter. But you could tell that Pete's over the target because the building's striking back. And I want to get you on today to clarify this, because Pete Hegseth is doing an amazing job. Sean, what in the hell is going on over there?
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Mike Lindell
Yeah, listen, I'll tell you, first of all, Secretary Hegseth is doing an amazing job. He's done more in six months as Secretary of Defense here at the Pentagon than most secretaries of defense do in four years. The only person in this town, Steve, inside this godforsaken town that was elected by the whole of the American people was President Trump. He was an elected. He was elected in a landslide, an electoral college landslide, a popular vote landslide. The American people put President Trump in office to implement his America first agenda. President Trump then said, selected and nominated Secretary Hegseth, who was confirmed by the U.S. senate and is now serving as Secretary of Defense. And then the president picks people like me, America first types, to help implement his agenda here in the Pentagon and across the interagency. But these deep staters who penned this letter, by the way, this anonymous letter, they didn't even have the courage to put their name on the letter. They penned this letter thinking that they're defending democracy, but really what they're doing is subverting our republic. So the real dangers to democracy are unelected deep state bureaucrats who are trying to thwart the president's elect, thwart the president's agenda he was elected by the American people to implement. So it's completely ridiculous. We reject it wholesale. And look, the secretary is doing an Amazing job. I mean, he is full operational control of our southern border. We've got European allies spending 5% on defense. We've got a force posture shift to Indopacom happening right now. Historic recruiting across the board. People are showing up and joining the military and gangbusters to support this president and this secretary. And so we are clicking on all cylinders here in the Pentagon, and we're not going to let a bunch of anonymous deep state hacks detract from that agenda.
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Steve Bannon
As a young officer, I was there for the workup in 79, but we rotated back right before the assault. But the, the failed assault on tehran back in 79 and 80 compared to what PDAC says in the Defense Department, most complicated military operation since World War II pulled off flawlessly. That speaks for itself of how the building's being run, how he's being run. Now, there's obviously tons of reforms and structural changes, but recruiting's up, morale's up, the warrior ethos is up. Here's what's so shocking about. And even the Daily Mail, they were anonymous sources on a letter that they will not reveal. Right. They pulled selective quotes from her. I've never seen anything like it from a letter that she. It was as bad as the hit on Trump the other day by Wall Street Journal. So, Sean, how are you guys going to counter this? I mean, I think it's my recommendation. All the reforms he's doing and the structural reforms he's doing. You guys and Pete ought to be more upfront on this. We just had the guys from the Senate, Hawley and Johnson, on about the slowdown of the confirmations. We know that's hurt the Pentagon, but it's not known how. The Democrats are slow walking everything on peach reforms. And these are ones that President Trump has said, hey, this is what I was elected to do, go do it. And the building's always going to be resistance because they got away. They do things, they get a trillion dollar budget and they're not going to change unless you force them to change, sir.
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Mike Lindell
I mean, so this, Steve, this letter, this Daily Mail article is all in the service of, of this fake chaos narrative. But to your point, if there was any dissension among the political appointees and the leadership here at the Pentagon, we would not have been able to conduct and execute Operation Midnight Hammer, which was the most complicated military operation certainly that I've ever been exposed to. And I've spearheaded many military operations during my time in Afghanistan. I've never seen anything as complex as Operation Midnight Hammer. We wouldn't have been able to do it if there was all this division and chaos in the Pentagon. And the reality is, it is where were all of these people and their anonymous deep state letters when Secretary Austin disappeared for a week? Where were all the anonymous deep state letters during the disastrous surrender of Afghanistan where 13Americans were killed? These people said nothing. And so look, we have absolutely. We're not going to let a bunch of anonymous deep state hacks detract us from implementing the President's agenda and the Secretary's agenda. We are going to relentlessly pursue reform here at the Pentagon and the President's America first agenda.
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Steve Bannon
A period, full stop on the chaos situation. A complicated, like I said, the most complex since, I think, either the firebombing of Japan or D Day. And not only was it pulled off flawlessly and this was naval assets hitting with what, 30 Tomahawk missiles from the North Arabian Sea. So you had every element there. The first time anybody knew about it is when a bomb was dropping on their head. The OPSEC on this was extraordinary given the complexity and the breadth and scale of what you had to do. That shows right there when the rubber meets the road. This thing's hitting on all cylinders right now, right? I mean, this shows you that what they're trying to do, they're worried about money, they're worried about structure, they're worried about kind of downsizing, et cetera, they're coming after him. When you have these operations where the opposite, it's unbelievable that something of that scale, not one leak until a bomb was dropped on somebody's head. Sir.
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Mike Lindell
Yeah. And you know, Steve, you know, you said you've been in the building, so you get it. There are like between 28 and 30,000 people that come to work in the Pentagon each and every day. And there are a hand, a handful of people who had awareness of Operation Midnight Hammer prior to it happening. Not one single leak like total and complete operational security. And, you know, the truth is that mission as a whole, Secretary Hegseth was involved in planning that mission from the very beginning. But that mission as a whole speaks to, like, his discipline, his talent and his leadership here at the Department of Defense. And not just coming together and coming up with this plan, but also speaking and engaging with the President all throughout the planning phase of this operation and throughout the execution. I was in the nmcc, the National Military Command center, throughout Operation Midnight Hammer. And the way that that operation functioned, from the NMCC to the Situation Room to the Secretary of Defense, to the President, was absolutely Seamless. It was perfect. And that's a testament to the secretary's leadership here in this building.
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Steve Bannon
Sean Parnell, Social Media. Where do people get you to find out the truth and reality of what's happening over in the building?
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Mike Lindell
So you can find me at Sean Parnell USA on X. I'm also on getter, I'm on Facebook, I'm on Instagram, and I've also got a great team of political appointees here in the Pentagon as well who are all hardcore America Firsters. Follow each and every one of them for the latest news from the Pentagon. Make sure you stay up to date on the truth that happens here in this building and the great things that are happening here in this building each and every day.
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Steve Bannon
No, I would tell you, Sean, this audience is the one that went fixed bayonets when there were some issues about whether Pete was going to get confirmed or not. We said, Pete Hex is getting confirmed because the Pentagon needs him, the military services need him. And I think he's done an extraordinary job. And you tell it by the results when the rubber meets the road. So thank you and make sure Secretary Hexif knows the War Room and the Warren posse have his back. Sir.
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Mike Lindell
No better audience in the world than the War Room Posse.
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Steve Bannon
Yep.
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Mike Lindell
And I will let him know that for sure.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you, Assistant Secretary Parnell. Amazing. Great job they're doing over there. When you see an article like that in the Daily Mail that's sourced anonymously and even they're not even giving you the. The letter, it's very similar to the Wall Street Journal hit piece that Murdoch dropped on Trump that you're not even going to see the letter. They're going to describe the letter. It's all anonymous sources and these are hits. You can tell Pete's over the target. Now. There's a lot more needs to be done. Obviously, if you remember, we talked about the ndaa, we talked about the NDAA being done in secret. Remember a couple weeks ago we had Hawley on who's a member of the Senate, and he's saying, hey, the National Defense Authorization act has the Armed Services Committee and you don't even know what's going on there. He says, we don't find out until. Until it's absolutely over. I think I've got it right here. We've got a couple of snippets from this. There's a whole situation with allowing the Chinese Communist Party to be engaged in rimpac. RIMPAC is this massive exercise that's done with all the allied navies. I gave an interview last night to a Japanese newspaper specifically about the situation in the East China Sea and in Taiwan and saying, hey, the PLA Navy is not doing exercises now, they're actually doing rehearsals. So there's a thing in the NDAA that actually invites in the People's Liberation Navy. They just voted on it to be part of RIMPAC and it was voted 18 to 9, only 9 to sending votes. I don't know how. And you can't say, well, we want to make sure that we know what they're doing, everything like that. You can't involve these people with the allied, what are the Japanese, what are the South Koreans, what are the Filipinos supposed to think if you're allowing them to come in and you get, they get the signal books, you do the codes now, you don't not give anything top secret. But just even to the question with the PLA and the ccp, right now, you've built this huge navy, but can you actually use it? Do you actually know how to what's called fight the ship? And it's extraordinary and stunning. And this shows you just the example of why is this all done in secret? Why are these meetings not over? Why the votes not recorded? Why do we not have who's actually voting for these things? And why is this NDA? It's a trillion dollar defense budget. My problem with it, it's not segueing to hemispheric defense. It's not segueing to hemispheric defense. President Trump has laid out a strategy and the NDAA right now doesn't follow that strategy. It's one of the reasons you have a trillion dollar defense budget with, with a lack of investment in our, in our fleet in the Navy. Anyway, short break, back in a moment. You've heard me talk about Patriot Mobile for a while now. You probably know that for years they've stood in the gap for every American who believes in faith, family and freedom. So here's the question. Have you switched to Patriot Mobile yet? You'll get exceptional nationwide coverage because unlike most cell phone service providers, Patriot Mobile and utilizes all three major US networks switch today without sacrificing quality or service. They even add two numbers on two networks on one phone. Let me repeat. They can even add two numbers on two networks on one phone. It's like you're carrying two phones in one. They have unlimited data plans, mobile hotspots, international roaming, Internet on the go devices and Internet backup. Switching is easy. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade their 100% US based team can activate you in minutes. Best of all, switching to Patriot Mobile supports your values. If you believe in our first Amendment and second amendment rights, the sanctity of life, supporting our veterans and first responders. This is where you belong right now. Go to patriotmobile.com bannon or call 972 Patriot. Get a free month of service with promo code Bannon. So if you call in, tell them Bannon also switch today. That's patriotmobile.com bannon or call 972 Patriot.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Steve Bannon
So much going on today. We're going to juggle all the balls you got. The Human Trafficking conference, we have the AI Summit. We're tracking very closely what's coming out of dni. We're all over this DNI situation on the treason of Obama and Brennan and his entire crew will be all over this throughout the day. Plus what's happening over in the Pentagon, the ndaa. I'm trying to get Captain Fennell on. Captain Fennell led the fight to keep the Chinese, the People's Liberation Navy out of rimpac. It's stunning that we could be inviting our mortal enemy, the existential threat to the United States of America, in to the most comprehensive fleet combined fleet exercise that we have with our allies, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines. Right? All about guess what? The defense of Taiwan. Don't get it. This is what's happening. You know, if we cut off, they talk about AI. If you cut the Chinese off of capital and technology, Lao Beijing would overthrow the CCP in about 100 days. Full stop. These AI tech bros talk about. Oh yeah, you know, we're so afraid of China getting the drought. That's why we need no regulations. Well, dude, quit giving them technology. Quit coming here and lobbying in D.C. to keep them in the loop, to keep coupled it should be uncoupled. Scott Coburn joins us. Sir, the situation at Texas is flat out a mess. This, this district, the redistricting, we're gonna get Glenn's story. We had Brian Harrison up. I can't give a hat tip enough on how on your PAC side Patriot Mobile has been such a leader. Your cell phones for soldiers. Can you talk to me about that? And then I want to spend a minute on about exactly how people make the switch because everybody knows what a great job you're doing for fighting for our causes. Now people need to understand the service is unparalleled and they need to switch today. Sir.
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Sean Parnell
Yeah.
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Scott Coburn
Thanks for having me on, Steve. Look, I mean, you and Senator Johnson were just talking about a lot of what we're facing here in Texas too. We have a lot of work to do. We've got a real battle on our hands. And at Patriot Mobile, you know, we're just out here stirring things up in the name of freedom. That's what we do. And you mentioned the Cell Phone for Soldiers program. You know, part of our mission is to always honor and support our military and our veterans. And through a partnership we have made recently with a company called Cell Phone for Soldiers, we are able to offer veterans need free cell phones and free cell phone service so that they can stay connected with their loved ones and just a way to reward and honor them for all of the sacrifices they made for our country. This is what we do, Steve. And also I just want to tell you, you talked about making the switch. You hit the nail on the head. So many people, Steve, in the war room posse and everywhere else have heard about all the great things we're doing, but they haven't made the switch. I want to tell you guys, this is something that takes 20 to 30 minutes, okay? Think about the time you invest in whatever organizations that you're working with that are fighting for our freedoms. Would you take another 20 or 30 minutes and call Patriot Mobile and switch your phone lines? You're going to get the same or better coverage that you have today. We have all three of the major networks in this country. We have 100% US based customer support. We offer all the same devices, Androids, Apples, you name it, that, that the big guys offer. But the difference is every month when you pay your bill, you're going to know that a portion of that bill is going to support our freedoms and things that you believe in. That's how we're different. Steve.
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Steve Bannon
One more time, how do they go? How do people make the switch? Today I want to make sure they talk to a customer service person, a US Citizen. Where do they go today, Scott, to talk to a customer service person and start to make the switch?
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Scott Coburn
Yeah, it's real simple, Steve. They can go to patriotmobile.com bannon and they could sign up online. You can use the code Bannon and you're going to get your first month of service for free. And, or, you know, if you're more comfortable talking to somebody, you can call 972-patriot and get one of our US based customer support. I can tell you, you call Patriot Mobile, the only accent you're going to hear is maybe a little bit of East Texas Hillbilly. You know, we're going to, we're going to talk to you and get you switched over on this thing, all right? And it's, and it's easy. Like I said, It's 20 or 30 minutes of your time. You can do it the comfort of your own home or your office. Let's get it done today in the.
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Steve Bannon
Cell phone for soldiers. Give me that, give me another 20 seconds on that.
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Scott Coburn
Sure. Yeah, you can go to cell phones for soldiers.com and you can learn more about this program. If you're a veteran in need, if you are at or below the poverty line or if you're on some kind of governmental assistance program, you can qualify for their program where we can get you free cell phones and free cell phone service. Go to cell phone phones foursoldiers.com and check it out.
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Steve Bannon
Scott, thank you so much for coming on here, man. Appreciate you.
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Scott Coburn
Thank you. Steve.
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Steve Bannon
Glenn Stewart, we're going to Brian Harrison, I think again tomorrow. This fight down in Texas. What's happening in Texas? Texas, the railhead of the MAGA movement. How Texas goes, so goes the nation, flat out. And there's some very disturbing things going down there with the Rhinos. Democrats also, I don't know, man. A lot of bad stuff going on in Texas. Got to be fought, got to be exposed. Dr. Malone, thank you for joining us today. This show has been so crazy, but I got to get you on here because Bobby Kennedy, the Maha and make America healthy again and make America great again. The merger, that's what's got us this massive victory. The Maha movement is building here. We love covering it. What in the hell is going on over hhs, FDA and Moderna. Can you explain? Because it's kind of confusing to people on the outside. Take a second and explain exactly what the hell's going on.
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Stephen K. Bannon
It sure is confusing and it's got a lot of folks in the base pretty wound up and I think personally for good reason. What happened here was that a number of key things. Let's start off with the ground level. Vinay Prasad, who is director of the center for Biologics Evaluation and Research. So this is the branch of the FDA that has responsibility for vaccines, made a decision and it's appropriate that the decision is made at his level. It's not made at the secretary's level that he would provide authorization, a broad, you know, technically license to market outside of an EUA for the Moderna Spikebacks vaccine, quote, unquote vaccine. There's two different Moderna MRNA based vaccines now on the, on the table that have FDA authorization. One is the old Spike Vacs that has the essentially intact Spike protein, and the new one is a defanged version of the Spike protein. But Binay was presented by his staff with recommendation that they provide a broad general license for all three of the currently authorized vaccine products. Those from.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on for a second. Hang on.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Pfizer, hang on.
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Steve Bannon
No, hang on. Assume you're talking to a small child or a Labrador retriever when you talk to me about this. I thought we were out of the business of the whole. I thought the whole purpose is going and unwind all that. The emergency use authorization. I didn't think it was to figure out how to do licenses. I thought. I thought our mandate. Maybe I'm wrong. I thought our mandate was to get out of that business, that there were so many questions about. About it that we shouldn't be doing it. Am I wrong on that? Have I. Have I not gotten kept up to speed on the vaccine debacle?
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Stephen K. Bannon
I'll say it this way, as. As a member of the advisory committee on immunization practices for the cdc, and I don't represent that committee and I don't represent the government, this is my opinion. I am very unhappy with that decision, as are many people. But it was made. And frankly, it was made full stop.
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Steve Bannon
Full stop, but full stop. What do you mean it was made? I thought they got rid of that whole board and they put you guys on because you guys represented kind of the best thinking that came out of the pandemic when people were not so outraged. So what do you mean a decision was made and we got to live with it? Screw that. Let's undo that. If you don't agree with it, let's undo it.
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Senator Ron Johnson
They.
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Stephen K. Bannon
They didn't put me in the fda. They didn't put me on the virbac, which is the FDA advisory board. They put me on the CDC advisory board. And so the way things work, you know, D.C. steve, everything's siloed. So the FDA gets to make the decision about whether something is market authorized. The CDC director through the ACIP FACA advising office, her gets to make the decision about how that vaccine or product potentially would be used, who should use it, for what indications. So, okay, basically.
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Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on. You got to talk to me like I'm a simpleton. Let's go back. Don't we have a. When you say spike protein, I thought the whole issue was. That's not. I hate to use the word settled science, but we were never comfortable that this was either appropriate, it hadn't been studied enough, there hadn't been enough tests done. They hadn't done anything. Aren't we still there? And if the FDA approved it, can't the secretary or can't we burn up the phone line, say that's all gonna be unwell. We gotta go back to the beginning and make sure this stuff is done correctly, sir.
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Stephen K. Bannon
So the way that the structure is, the secretary does not have the technical oversight capability as I understand it, to second guess FDA decisions. So that's a misunderstanding on the part of the MAHA and mega base. Bobby can't do anything about this. And furthermore, functionally, furthermore, this decision was taken.
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Steve Bannon
Are you telling me if. Hang on, hang on. You're. Hang on, hang on, hang on. You're telling. Because I got to understand this and I clearly don't. Are you telling me if the FDA makes a decision in one administration and a new Secretary of Health and Human Services. Come on, you can't go back to that and question it and kind of put that on hold until your guys go in there, your men and women go in there and analyze it. We have to live with this forever. That can't possibly be. That's even too screwed up for this government. Correct.
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Stephen K. Bannon
It would require that there be substantial new data that would trigger the FDA to reevaluate that prior decision. It can't just be because the secretary has an itch that he wants to scratch. And so that's, that's just the way the case.
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Steve Bannon
But that's what I'm saying. Can't you put it, can't you put that decision on hold and full stop until you start doing studies that you guys talk about during the pandemic? We do studies and it may take you years. It may take you years. But you want to do. Remember Bobby's pitch was we're gonna go back to real science. We're gonna go back to platinum level studies on this whole thing about the vaccines and autism and all that. But we're gonna go back and prove to people one way or the other, however that falls, it falls. We're gonna go back to platinum level science. Isn't this one of the things that you start on, given the massive controversy about these vaccines and particularly among the MAGA base. Sir. And I'm not saying gun deck the science. I'm saying go back, just put it, put these decisions on hold because they can't just be allowed to go because, oh, that's, you know, the FDA's got this. That, that's kind of old. That's playing Washington's game. We ain't here to play Washington's game. We're here to play our game. Right. So shouldn't we disrupt a little bit?
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Stephen K. Bannon
We should, Steve and I hear that there is significant support for disruption in this area that goes all the way up to the top. And don't ask me to elaborate. So that's one of the misconceptions that the base has, is that at the top there is resistance to this. And I've had recent information indicating that that is absolutely not the case. We have support and we have support at the level of the ACIP to be disruptive. I don't, I can't speak for what's going on with Marty and Vinay. I'm not happy about it. I'm not happy about having that tossed into our lap at ACIP for our first full meeting, which is coming up in September and having to deal with it. All we can do from the CDC platform is to as remember again, ACIP is only an advisory faca, but what we can do is push the FDA for the specifics. What do they mean by children at high risk? What do they specifically mean by children at high risk for severe Covid? What do they mean by severe Covid? What are the data that they had to support that decision in the case of Moderna? Now, to Vinay's defense, he did not authorize the other ones. Okay, so that's at the margins. But he did authorize Moderna for this. And the logic that I've heard floated is that this is a forward looking statement.
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Steve Bannon
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Stephen K. Bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, we got a lot of work today. We're going to have somebody Telsey's doing another huge drop. We're going to get somebody that can break it all down to join us in the afternoon show. Also, we're going to update you on Todd Blanche and the entire Epstein in Maxwell's situation. He now looks like he's in charge over justice on this. And Todd is an absolute hammer. You should know that. He was the lead. He and Emil Bove were the two sled dogs that got President Trump through that entire morass. And just amazing, amazing guy. So we'll do that. Also, Artificial intelligence action plan. I'm not loving some of the things I'm hearing, but I'm going to dive into that as soon as the show is over. Update on that at 5. We also have the president's dress, also the, the human trafficking. We're going to pull highlights from that. So a lot going on. So Doc, here's the bottom line. I'm not as up to speed on this I should. I know you've been publishing a lot of stuff and Naomi and everybody, I've got to read this and make sure I get back up to speed on all this because you just froze my brain. My brain is frozen right now. Where do people go on your sub stack that we can bundle all this and read it and we're going to get you back on because this ain't making sense to anybody. The whole purpose of this and the whole purpose of Bobby Kennedy was that we're just not going to accept everything that Biden's FDA said. Oh, because FDA said it. We got to say no, screw that. We got to get to the bottom of this. And the way to do it is to get all the information out there. So where do people, Dr. Malone, go to your substack to get everything that you've been writing about this.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Malone news. And I also recommend a Midwestern doctor for his recent essay about CDC corruption. So you'll find a series of essays here. This is not stacked by date, but if you look in the recent essays, you're going to find a lot about what occurred with Moderna. There's a specific piece there. And that really has got the administration a little bit twisted up. I've had multiple calls from senior people at HHS about how I need to edit that in various ways. But the bottom line is that both the director, the, the Marty McCarty and Vinay Prasad are, are not all in with removing these products at this point in time. They're trying to temporize because of the concern that when they end the emergency use authorization, then children will no longer have access to the product. So that's, that's kind of what's going on is, is they're trying to play the middle road.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, let us, let us get up to speed on this and we'll subject to your availability, have you back on the next couple of days because obviously this is a very high priority for the war and posse and the grassroots activists. Right. And to fight these fights. We've just seen it looks like a range war over at hhs. People doing things that Bobby Kennedy didn't authorize. He's letting go as chief of staff and, and we got to get that sorted and we've got your guys back. We just got to get it sorted to make sure President Trump's deputizing Bobby Kennedy to get things done. They actually get done. And we don't allow the big pharma to control the event. If we allow them to control the event, then what in the hell was all this work for anyway? That's what. We got a shot. We got to take our shot. So, Dr. Malone, one more time, where do people go to get on social media in your subset, get all your.
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Stephen K. Bannon
Information, Malone News or on X or Truth Social or the other ones. You will find it@rw malonemd.com.
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Steve Bannon
Thank you, brother. Look forward to having you back on here. Dr. Malone. Out of the frying pan and in to the fire. Wow. Like I said, today, updates on what Todd Blanche is doing at justice on the Epstein situation. And also we're going to have somebody on that can break down Tulsi's doing dump after dump after dump. And this thing is, Obama would not be out trying to defend himself. He didn't realize he got a big problem when a president of the United States in the Oval Office next to a head of state who's here on a very important visit. The Philippines are one of the linchpins to our strategy against the Chinese Communist Party and on global television because they're all following those pressers says that he's guilty of treason. That's a big event. It was big enough. You know, the mainstream media. Oh, this is just Trump's crazy talk. They started serious enough that Obama's spokesman immediately came out and tried to give this fluffy misdirection thing, which was nothing but a, wait for it, bald face lie. So we're now into this thing and it's. I think you're gonna see what John Thomas at a federal task force, I think you're gonna hear see either special prosecutor or one of these US Attorneys solely assigned to get to the bottom of all this, including the Epstein situation. We shall see as developments occur. Want to thank Birch Gold? Go to take out your phone text 9,898. First off, maybe put in Bannon B A N N O N 989-898 to get the ultimate free guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. More importantly, you get connected after you learn, you get connected to Philip Patrick and the team and get smart. Make sure that you do that today. Birch Gold, Charlie Kirk's going to follow us. That brother's on fire. Jack Posobec. After that, Steve Gruber, the great Eric Bowling. We can figure it out. We're going to try to do a handoff. The reason we have been doing handoffs is the afternoon shows are coming together late, as we say in the business. And so we haven't been able to do the handoffs. Hopefully today with Eric Bolling, that brother's been on fire. Speaking of fire, Mike Lindell, it's town War room posse. This has been a, this has been a, this, this has been a, a information overload. Morning. People want to know how they get a deal, A special deal. Talk to us.
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