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Episode 4663: Trump Meets With EU Leaders; Bringing Giuliani Era Law And Order To England
Episode 4663: Trump Meets With EU Leaders; Bringing Giuliani Era Law And Order To England ...
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Donald Trump
The privilege of going to his island. And I did turn it down, but a lot of people in Palm beach were invited to his island. In one of my very good moments, I turned it down. I didn't want to go to his island. Yeah.
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Unnamed Commentator
Say it louder next time you speak to Netanyahu.
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What will you ask him to do?
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Donald Trump
Well, I'm going to say, look, we're giving money and we're giving food, but we're over here and we're over in the United States. And I think I can speak for the Prime Minister. We're giving money and things. He's got to sort of like, run it. Well, I want them to make sure they get the food. I want to make sure they get the food. Every ounce of food. I think you want the same food.
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Unnamed Commentator
Yeah, absolutely.
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Nigel Farage
It's an absolute.
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Donald Trump
Because that food isn't being delivered, or at least all of it.
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Unnamed Commentator
You said you were going to set.
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Essentially a tariff for the rest of the world.
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Donald Trump
For the world.
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Nigel Farage
What percent will that.
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Donald Trump
I would say it'll be somewhere in the 15 to 20% range.
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Unnamed Commentator
So maybe 15 or 20 or.
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Donald Trump
No, I said, you know, I sort of know, but I just want to be nice. I would say in the range of 15 to 20%. Probably one of those two numbers. Aluminum. You're a pretty big aluminum maker.
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Nigel Farage
Yeah, that's already covered in the deal that we've agreed, so we're just doing the implementation of that.
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Unnamed Commentator
But, Mr. President, when will that come down from 25% to zero?
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Donald Trump
You mean on the. On the overall. On the world?
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Unnamed Commentator
On steel and aluminum From Britain, it's 25.
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Donald Trump
Well, we're going to know pretty soon. We're going to have it pretty soon. You have no idea that these people are tough negotiators. Okay, but we're a big buyer of steel. But we're going to make our own steel and we're going to make our own aluminum for the most part. But we buy a lot of aluminum from right here and a lot of steel, too. Who are you with? Who are you with? Because you're asking such a nice question. Very good. They're lucky.
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Unnamed Commentator
We have a lot of unhappy farmers.
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In this country at the moment.
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And I'm sure the Prime Minister won't.
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Nigel Farage
Thank me for raising this.
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Unnamed Commentator
We've had changes to inheritance tax, which.
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Means a lot of farmers feel they're going to lose their farms when they.
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Die of a farmyard.
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Nigel Farage
Hundred percent off farmers to a country.
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Donald Trump
You mean they're going to lose the farm because of estate taxes. So what I've done. I know. Well, they're cash poor. They're land rich and cash poor. A lot of people are. I've had that too.
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Unnamed Commentator
I've had.
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Donald Trump
Sometimes I'm land rich and cash. Sometimes I'm cash rich and land poor. I like it both ways, but as they get older, I like the more conservative. So I did something that I don't know if you can do, but it was great. I love our farmers. As you know, in our tax bill we have a clause that's very important. We were losing a lot of farms to the banks because a mother, a loving mother and father would die and left their farm to their children, or their child, but their children, their family. And they loved their family and they thought they were doing them a favor. But they had a 50% tax to pay. So the land would get valued and at a high number because some of the farms were valuable, but they didn't, you know, they couldn't quantify it. And they'd go out and borrow money to pay the estate tax or the death tax, as it's called, and they'd overextend and they'd lose the farm and they'd commit suicide in many cases.
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Unnamed Commentator
We're seeing. No, no, no. Our levels are nowhere near 50%.
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Nigel Farage
They're not.
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Unnamed Commentator
We've just introduced where it's paid over many years, works well, that's good.
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Nigel Farage
An extra 2% a year over 10 years. So it's not at those levels by any stretch of the imagination.
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Unnamed Commentator
But the other thing that we've done, as you know, is make sure that.
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Nigel Farage
We'Ve got a pathway for farmers that actually increases their year on year income, which is the most important thing. And in all of the deals that we do, we ensure that our farmers are the central focus for much of.
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Unnamed Commentator
It, particularly on the agriculture, including in the US Deal, because I don't think.
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Nigel Farage
We can go on for years saying that it's acceptable for farmers to have a year on year income, which isn't sufficient. We've got to fix that problem. We can't simply live with that problem. So it's a very different situation.
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Donald Trump
Well, we ended the estate tax. There is no estate tax on farmers. So when a parent leaves their farm, because again, a lot of these farms, they don't make a lot of money, but it's a way of life and they love their way of life and they love that.
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Unnamed Commentator
They.
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Donald Trump
That dirt, that dirt is the most beautiful thing they've ever seen. They love it. I mean, they're farmers, they love doing they don't know how to do anything else, but they don't want to do anything else. I speak to farmers. I say, would you like to live in my penthouse in Manhattan? It's beautiful. No, sir, I want this farm. And what happens is, I mean, we were losing a lot of people to suicide. They'd buy, they'd borrow money to pay the estate tax and they wouldn't. Were not able to pay it. And some banks are ruthless. They wouldn't do anything and they would end up committing suicide. We have totally ended the estate tax on those situations. So there's no estate tax. So when a parent leaves the farm to the kids, they don't have to worry about their local, possibly unfriendly banker coming in and stealing their farm.
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Unnamed Commentator
Is migrants take houses.
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Nigel Farage
Hotels keep immigrants in communities not feeling safe.
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Unnamed Commentator
Is that an appropriate place to have one?
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Donald Trump
I don't like anything about it. They shouldn't be allowed in. Anybody illegally should not be allowed in the country. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Okay, right there.
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Unnamed Commentator
President United States with the Prime Minister of England, Starmer. Sir. Kear still at Turnberry. President's going to leave, I think this afternoon. Already did a great interview with Matt Boyle. Will be up sometime in the next, I don't know, day or two, heading to his properties in farther north in Scotland, his new golf properties. We'll cover all that. We've got a very special guest I think was fantastic coming this morning, Nigel Farage. But we want to do a cold open for Nigel. It's been a tremendously important weekend for him. Let's go ahead and play the cold open and we'll bring Nigel into the war room.
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Nigel Farage
One of the things I think that has sort of really led to deterioration of trust in politics. Our successive home secretary is telling us crime is falling. You hear it every year. Crime is falling. So please don't worry your poor little heads. Well, that's because the crime survey for England and Wales is based on completely false data. If you look at police recorded crime, which is what we've done for our research all through this, you can see that actually there are some significant rises in crimes of all kinds, particularly crimes against the person we're actually facing. In many parts of our country, nothing short of societal collapse. People are scared to go out of the shops, scared to let their kids out. That is a society that is degrading and it's happening very, very rapidly. I'm astonished that there has been so little debate in Westminster amongst our political classes on this issue because I'M sure they must in their MPs inboxes, get members of the public telling them just how grim things really are. Sarah mentioned the word respect. Respect for those in uniform has declined massively. The criminals don't particularly respect the police and can act in many cases with total impunity. Just as worrying, if not more so, is huge numbers of law abiding, taxpaying Britons have also lost respect for the police, but in a different way. The idea, the concept that we're living in a system of two tier policing and two tier justice under two tier care has really taken hold.
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Unnamed Commentator
You know, I always watch and see who buys the New York Post because it tells me that people want an alternative to people like you or me. They want alternative, they want the Trumpian view and maybe they want to expose themselves to the Trumpian view so they can expose the weaknesses they've got. But also, to be honest with you, the country is moving towards Trump. These polls that come out and show him not doing well, I don't, I don't buy that. I think strength, his strength is still greater than the Democratic strength. He is a stronger public figure than the Democratic people. I mean, Obama still has tremendous charisma, but Trump has strength and I think that's what all voters look for. But they want a president who is a strong figure and he's got it and he can, it's just there and half the country buys it. That's what I think. Do you think he'll go for a third term? No, the Constitution won't permit it. I believe I've been wrong before, but I believe in John Roberts and the court and Amy Coney Barrett and I think they're going to. We'll have a 7 to 2 on the elections of 70 coming up in 26 and 28. I think we'll have it 7 to 2 or 6 to 3 on the 14th amendment and birth citizenship. I think, I think when it comes to the core of the Constitution will be okay. If we're not, we're really going to be in trouble. I mean, if the Constitution doesn't mean anything, if the words don't mean anything, what's the purpose of mentioning it now.
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Nigel Farage
In terms of policy proposals? Yep. I'm going to reiterate the point. Zero tolerance policing. Every single shoplifting offence, however small, should be prosecuted. Every single mobile phone that is stolen, if we can track it, we need to go to the addresses and find out who the these people are. Stop and search, stop and search in areas where knife crime is prevalent will go on up until saturation point, until we drive knives off the street. And believe me, this is a policy that I know from my campaigning recently around the country, supported by people right across the political spectrum. And if we have to build more knife arches at the entrance to train stations or bus stations, whatever it may be, then we will do it. Fast track arrest. We believe that is very, very important. And if we have to open pop up custody suites and centres around the country will do so because many police stations, police stations not just closing in huge numbers around the country, but many police stations, including a local one in Clacton, have lost their custody suites. So we believe that fast track arrest holding people is right. And perhaps the biggest pledge that we would make today is to save 30,000 more police over a five year term of a parliament. And we will scrap all diversity, equality and inclusion roles and we will aim for a higher and physically tougher standard of police officer.
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Unnamed Commentator
Monday, the 20th of July, year of our Lord 2025. Trump has strength. That's from Chris Matthews. The country is going Trump's way. If you talk about strength, you have to in the same sentence, bring in Nigel Farage, one of the closest people to President Trump. Nigel, thank you for joining us. The polls show the reform movement, I don't know, 2x the Tories fastest growing party in the West, I think in history. But when Nigel Farage talks about societal collapse, people listen. What are you talking? Is this tied to the immigration? What is this tied to? You know, you guys, and particularly you got the United Kingdom's sovereignty back in June of 2016 as the predicate for Trump's incredible come from behind victory in November, here we are nine years later and President Trump's cutting deals, really restructuring the world's commercial relationships, closing our borders, starting the mass deportations and England is in societal collapse. How does that work out, sir?
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Nigel Farage
Steve, good morning. Well, getting back our sovereignty was crucial. But once you've got back your sovereignty, you then have to exercise it in a way that's in the national interest. And sadly, our political class is completely and utterly rotten. We have a Labour Party and a Conservative Party, but frankly, I think they should just be called the Uni Party because there isn't really very much to choose between them. And yes, law and order is collapsing. Respect for anybody in uniform, for any form of authority is collapsing behavior. I mean, it's hard to believe if you go into the West End of London, you take areas like Chelsea, Knightsbridge. I mean, these over the years have been some of the most expensive pieces of real estate in the world. Beautiful historic architecture, amazing retail stores, restaurants, pubs, schools, you name it. A really, really top piece of London. I'll tell you what, Steve, if I saw you in London and you said, I'm going down the King's Road and I saw you wearing a watch, I'd say, please take it off. Otherwise you'll be attacked, you might even be killed because somebody will want that watch. Women now in the middle of the day, don't wear any jewelry for fear of being mugged on the streets. And by the way, if you want to go shoplifting, that's absolutely fine. You could now shoplift up to £200 worth of store of goods in a grocery store or whatever it is and you will not face prosecution. Why is it happening? There are several factors, but there is one absolutely overriding factor. Piece of a stat out today that over the last seven years of sexual assaults and rapes in London, 40% have been committed by people not born in this country. And if you take the picture bigger, an Afghan male that has moved to Britain illegally or legally is 22 times more likely to be convicted of rape than somebody who was born in this country. And so the message is not that all immigrants are bad, is not that everybody from the rest of the world is dreadful. It is that when you have an immigration policy, you have to choose. You have to. Yes, and dare I use the word, I will. You have to discriminate and get the right people coming in. We have boatloads of people coming across the English Channel. Tory and Labour governments too gutless to deal with it. And so many of these people are going on to commit horrible crimes, which is why you've seen the big protests going on outside migrant hotels. So the reason, the reason that I call it societal decline is that mothers don't want their kids to go out and play. People can't wear a watch in the street. There's a sense of fear that is societal breakdown.
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Unnamed Commentator
Now, in the late 90s, I lived in Knightsbridge. The West End of London is absolutely extraordinary. In fact, the whole city back then was extraordinary. Nigel, which is such a shock about how quickly this collapse has come, but it's obviously tied to the immigration, both legal and illegal here in the United States. We're now ramping up and we're having a huge debate. Although we just passed a bill that has $170 billion in it to get. To get ready and build the infrastructure for mass deportations. In your punch list of law and order, I Missed the part about deportations is getting your arms around the immigration situation and particularly there's a certain subset of folks that just have to leave the United Kingdom. Is that part of it?
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Nigel Farage
Yes. Those that have come here from overseas and have committed crime, completely unacceptable. Those that have come here illegally, been smuggled into the country in the back of a lorry or they've come on a boat. No, we have to establish this. And I'll tell you something, Steve, we will get for this policy of deporting those who should not be here. We will get considerable support from immigrants who've come to Britain legally, gone through the system, paid their money, because they see this as being totally unfair and totally wrong. So, yes, of course, I mean, look, unless you deport people, there is no disincentive to come illegally. So of course that is absolutely at the heart of this. Our particular problem that America doesn't suffer from is that although we had Brexit, Boris Johnson and others kept us part of something called the European Convention on Human Rights. And that is something that is used by left wing lawyers to prevent virtually any deportation of somebody who doesn't want to go. So we've got some legal steps to go through first to clear ourselves to do it. But yes, the message must be clear. Come illegally, you will be deported.
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Unnamed Commentator
Nigel, the polling I saw poll the other day, Matthew Goodwin put it up. We had him on Saturday, had an extraordinary session with him. I think you're at 34% in reform. I think labor and the Tories combined are barely that. Are people coming to the reform movement and coming to you particularly because of what Chris Matthews talked about as strength? Is the political class, both labor and Tories, so feckless or the ruling class of the United Kingdom just given up on defending the country that people are now looking to you as a tower of strength? Sir?
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Nigel Farage
Well, I think people have progressively been giving up on the Labour and Conservative parties over the last couple of decades. I think with me, my messages, Steve, have been consistent for well over two decades. People know pretty much where I stand on the major issues of the day. And I kind of get this. Do you know what, Nige? I haven't always agreed with you, but at least you stand up for what you believe in. At least you tell us what you think. At least we know you're a patriot and you believe in the country. And so I think, frankly, standing up for values, values that we might have called old fashioned a few years ago, but values now which if they're not reasserted, we frankly, won't have a country worth living in in 10 years time. So I think that's behind it. And yes, strength in the sense of conviction, strength in the sense of having been right for a long time, despite an awful lot of abuse and a lot of violence directed against me. I mean, what you're seeing here is the most astonishing political change this country has ever been through. You know, the Conservative Party have been, you know, a party of power for 200 years. The Labour Party have been a party of government for over 100 years. It's. And of course, our electoral system is very much the same as yours in America. So to think of an outside party coming in and as you say in some polls, getting as many people opting for us as the other two combined, no, something very, very big is happening here.
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Unnamed Commentator
Because the media in England is the absolute worst. And it's shocking as Englishmen, you really don't have free speech. It's pretty stunning. Is the message getting through at all about what Trump has done here with the shortcomings of this term? You know, he's doing trade deals, he's working on everything, and we're still yet to get to the mass deportations. Has the word gotten out about how he sealed the border? We literally have nobody, no illegals coming across and he's doing a. Just a stellar job and getting the criminal class out. Is that starting to get. Does the common man and woman in the United Kingdom understand what Trump success has been and why? A big part of the nation, even independents, have rallied around him to some.
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Nigel Farage
Extent, but only, I'm afraid, to some extent. I mean, if you think the BBC are doing, you know, big long, five minute documentaries on how Trump sealed the border, you'd be in for another thing. You know, don't hold your breath on that. But to some extent, and certainly Trump is much more popular here than he was during his first term when it was wall to wall opposition. I think even outside the magnificent Turnberry Golf Club, when he arrived last night, there were sort of three protesters that turned up or something like that. Oh, and one of them was saying, don't trust Keir Starmer. So I think that he has gained a lot more respect. And I think also people can see with Trump, well, the one message that has got through is that Brexit was the right thing to do. And because of that, we as America are able to strike better terms with you than we're going to with Brussels and the European Union. So that side of it certainly is getting through. And I think the impression that he's a genuine friend of ours. I think that's succeeding as well as for the border, many other things. Well, I'm afraid much of our media is just too biased to tell us that story.
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Unnamed Commentator
The New York Times had a page one story, I think on Sunday morning, talked about the situation in, in the United Kingdom as President Trump went there and ended with a quote from me that I said, all the push, pull all the push polls in Christendom can't change the fact that Brexit have happened. You have your sovereignty back and the United Kingdom is never going back to the eu. Is that a, that statement got a lot of play over here. Is that statement. Do you believe that statement's true?
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Nigel Farage
I believe it's true. But what Keir Starmer's trying to do is piece by piece, realign us towards the European Union in many, many areas. And the biggest criticism of Brexit isn't the fact we did it, it's we haven't actually taken advantage of it in as many areas as we should. But politically, we're not going to rejoin. But the next government will have to undo some of the things that Keir Starmer has done. And by the way, I don't know whether an American audience realize just how catastrophic Sakir's first year in government has been. I mean, this man believes in absolutely nothing other than having the keys to the door of number 10 Downing Street. He flip flops, he u turns. But the one direction he does take us in is government gets bigger, control gets bigger, two tier policing and justice becomes more obvious and free speech becomes ever more threatened. And we've just, in the course of the last 48 hours, had the Online Safety act come into effect online. And for example, footage of protests against migrant hotels were being censored from all the social media platforms yesterday. So, yeah, whilst the man may not know what he really believes in, what he does believe in is big government and control of what we think and say.
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Unnamed Commentator
Isn't he, though, emblematic of the political class, even the Tories. And this is why Reform is at 34%. Both of those combined are barely 34%. And, and you were looked at as a tower of strength. And that's why I think the timing of your societal collapse speech was so powerful. I mean, isn't he emblematic of the fecklessness of the entire political class and really the ruling class and elites of the United Kingdom? Sir?
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Nigel Farage
Yeah, I mean, you know, I just mentioned the Online Safety act coming in over this weekend, Steve. But who drew up the legislation? It wasn't Labour that drew it up, it was the Conservatives that drew it up. So really, when you're talking about our traditional parties here they are the political class. There is very, very little to choose between them. And yes, people are coming to reform because they can see we're standing up for liberties, we're standing up for freedoms, we're standing up for things, you know, that previous generations made massive sacrifices to defend and our current bureaucratic media and political class seem to be prepared to surrender. So, yeah, I think conviction, I think strength, but most importantly, and here's the key to why we're doing well, here's the real key to why. That poll said 34% optimism, a belief that with the right leadership we can turn our country round and get it back on track. And sometimes they say, oh well, reform voters are protest voters. Well, they've got a lot to protest about. But no, you know, they could just say we're staying at home, we've given up. They're not, they're saying we're backing Farage, we're backing reform. We're doing it with joy in our hearts because we believe we can turn this round.
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Unnamed Commentator
Nigel, where do people keep up with you? Social media, website, all of it. Where people go.
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Nigel Farage
If you go to nfarage.com you'll find it all that.
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Unnamed Commentator
Nigel, thank you so much. Grayson Moa.
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Nigel Farage
Thank you.
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Unnamed Commentator
Thank you, sir, thank you. Really extraordinary. One of the great. If you study English history, you study history of the west right there in Niger. Farage, one of the greatest political leaders in the history of the United Kingdom. One of the greatest. He got single handedly after decades of hammering on leaving the eu. He was the leader, not Boris Johnson, he was the leader on Brexit to get their sovereignty back. And now after taking a couple of years out of politics to get back into politics and really start a MAGA type reform party in the United Kingdom. And the polling is just stunning. Part of it's a strength, all of it. A big part of this is constancy. Nigel has not changed. He's dug in since the late 1990s on what the United Kingdom needed to do. And this is a lesson for the West. This is what their lesson of President Trump. President Trump also over the weekend, massive trade deal with the eu. They finally blinked. Plus, let me get Harnwell on here from Rome, kind of a throwdown on with Putin in about now. I think we're 12 days, not 50. Actually in the 50 we're probably down to 40. But President Trump says, I need to hear something on 12 to 15 days. So also in Gaza, we're gonna take a short commercial break. Want to thank Birchgold, one of our sponsors, birchgold.com the end of the dollar empire. We are working on the eighth and ninth free installment, but you can go get all seven of the first. That'll get you pretty well up to speed on capital markets and fiat currency and the dollars of prime reserve currency. Everything you need to know to kind of understand why. It's not simply the price of gold every day, but it's the process of how that price, how they get to that price, the converging factors they get there that we're trying to teach you how to fish, not give you a fish. And I think it's worked out pretty well. We're gonna have more free installments. We also have a bunch of announcements what we're gonna do after Labor Day when people get back to the imperial capital. A lot going on. We're gonna go to Texas. This redistricting now it's gone to Florida. That is massive. A couple of things here. Also, their Senate's getting ready to leave and there's, I don't know, a couple of hundred at least, confirmations that haven't been done. Senator Lee and people are saying, hey, we got to do it before we leave. I got a better idea. Let's just have a recess, an actual technical recess, and have mass confirmations, recess appointments. They're good for a year and then work it out for the year. Also, the Senate's getting ready to have an omnibus on September 30th of this year. One year omnibus that has another massive deficit in it. Where are our pocket rescissions? Where are the rescissions? Where's the impoundments? We gotta back up the White House, gotta back up the folks over there that want to have some pretty big cuts to spending. 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Then again in 2021.
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Are those statute of limitations still live? Tell me if in fact we could see criminal prosecution here as you just the other day, three weeks ago, have in fact referred criminal referrals to the doj. Well, Maria, so part of what came out last week was about how John Brennan, Clapper, Comey, they all pushed the known fake Steele dossier into intelligence community assessments and as the basis for Crossfire Hurricane and all that. But what hasn't come out yet, and what's going to come out is the underlying intelligence that I have spent the last few months making recommendations about final declassification and sent that to the Department of Justice that will come out in the John Durham report, classified annex. And what that intelligence shows, Maria, is that part of this was a Hillary Clinton plan, but part of it was an FBI plan to be an accelerant to that fake Steele dossier, to those fake Russia collusion claims by pouring oil on the fire, by amplifying the lie and bearing the truth of what Hillary Clinton was up to. And you're right, Maria. John Brennan testified to John Durham in August of 2020. He also testified to the House Oversight Committee in 2022. Hillary Clinton testified before John Durham under oath in 2022. James Comey testified before the Senate committee in September 2020. All of that's within the last five years. And much of that testimony is, frankly, completely inconsistent with what our underlying intelligence that is about to be declassified in the Durham annex, what that reflects. And so, you know, Pam Bondi does have a strike force. It is a different Department of Justice, a different FBI, and an opportunity to look at how these people really did conspiracy to run a hoax, a fraud on the American people and against Donald Trump's presidency. And so coming forward, we understand that they did this, but now we need to understand how they did this. And I think that's why you see the left losing their minds over this, Maria, saying, why are you spending time? This is vindictive. You're going back. This is Donald Trump, you know, seeking retribution. It's not Donald Trump's election by the American people was a statement, Maria. They said to everyone, we know what you did to Donald Trump. And we reelected him because we know this was all fake. We know it was a hoax. Now we want to understand how you did it so that it can't happen again. And that's what this declassification process that we're undergoing right now, what's going on, why it's so important, and why there can be accountability and preventability to prevent these same people that did it in 2016 with the, with the Steele dossier, with the Hunter Biden laptop in 2020 from doing it again in the future.
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If you're talking about Trump winning the election in 2016, and you then turn around and show proof that there was a concerted effort by the Obama administration to derail his presidency, that creates problems. Not from the typical scandal stuff. And you listen, I remember when the Republicans were trying to disrupt Clinton's presidency by, you know, living on a Monica Lewinsky situation, okay? And, and essentially, you know, you had libertarians going all crazy and all of this other stuff. He lied. He lied and he did this in the Oval Office. That's what they were saying, okay? But it did, it did lead to Clinton losing his law license, ability to practice law for several years, okay? And obviously it was a scandal that really, really stained his presidency to some degree, even though he won back to back elections. So we understand that. But you can't ignore scandals like this, because if it involves the CIA, if it involves the FBI, if it involves the weaponization of law enforcement in this country, then we got a problem. We got a problem. Now, do I, do I believe that it's an evasive measure? Absolutely. Do I believe it's distractionary on the part of the Trump administration to get everybody's mind off the Epstein files? You're damn right I do. Of course I, of course I do. Okay. But the reality is, is that that does. That doesn't mean it's false. And if it's not false, and indeed there is a level of veracity attached to the allegations and the assertions articulated by Tulsi Gabbard, Donald Trump himself and others, then you know, we've got a problem.
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New Graham is now suggesting that there's new.
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All these years later, new evidence has materialized that would warrant this sort of investigation.
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Can you fact check him?
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No.
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There is nothing new here. And our colleague Dan Deluce, an NBC reporter, spoke to the CIA officer, the senior officer who oversaw writing these reports, the main report about what happened in 2016, and she said that Tulsi Gabbard is lying and the White House is lying. This Talk of Obama and treason on plot is false. And if you look at the report, whether it's the Senate intelligence report or the initial assessment, it's that Russia intervened in the election to denigrate Hillary Clinton. That was Putin's personal animus towards Hillary Clinton, you know, full stop. And I just want to say they keep mentioning the dossier. I was a reporter for Reuters at the time we had the dossier. Most mainstream journalist organizations had the Dossier during the 2016 election. We didn't write a word about it because we couldn't verify it. The dossier was not an issue in the 2016 election. So it's all these talks of plots and all these things like that. And it's, I can just say in terms of the dossier and journalists that had it, we didn't write about it. And again, the author, the person who oversaw this report, said that Tulsi Gabbard is lying when it comes to a treasonous plot. John, if I can add something, David just disputed the factual basis for what Lindsey Graham was saying. Let me take on the legal one, if I can. Calling for a special counsel investigation here is almost laughable because the Supreme Court's presidential immunity decision would preclude any prosecution of President Obama for treason based on his official acts. The only reason you would want a special counsel here is to continually put him and other people under the microscope in the hopes that it would lead to something else. All a Whitewater style, right, that Ken Starr starts investigating, one thing, ends up with a Monica Lewinsky like situation. But in any event, for the most part, that presidential immunity decision is brought. It gave Trump protection against two federal cases, and it should prevent against any prosecution, much less an investigation of former President Obama.
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But the weaponization of intelligence agencies to pull that off brings on an entirely different problem. And if the Democrats are found to have been guilty of this, really creating this story, that's not good because you have a whole bunch of people skeptical about politics to begin with. And you got to remember Trump was in or is in office because he's considered the anti politician. His behavior, his mannerisms, his language, his verbiage, his actions to some degree are very apolitical. It's not typically what you see from conventional politicians on Capitol Hill. And then when you think about how they went after him and they engaged in lawfare to take him down, the 34 felony counts and convictions and all of this other stuff, they're going to say, see, see, he wasn't guilty of any of this stuff. They did everything they could to derail him from being the president because the mission was to, to keep him from getting back into the White House. It wasn't that he did this or did that. They're going to say it's all a hoax. They're going to bring up the Hunter Biden scandal with the whole laptop controversy and they're going to say from 2016 to 2020 to 2024, each and every single time they were lying and they were gauge they were engaging in unsavory style behavior that adds credence to the argument that we've been making against them. There's no truth to any of this stuff. They just wanted to derail the presidency. A number 45. And they wanted to, they wanted to big up Biden. And they're going to point out how when he was on stage, as one pundit said, looking like an elderly individual in a nursing home waiting for his applesauce, but they were talking about him like he was lucid and coin and alert and all of this other stuff. They're going to point that out. See Jim Jordan on air the other night. You see these reporters, I mean, they're not playing. This is not going away.
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Okay, Note to White House comms department, when Stephen A. Smith is your best surrogate, that was pure fire. He's a street guy. He laid it out exactly how people in America think about this. What we need to do is to make sure that we promulgate this constantly, constantly, constantly. The great Matt Ball joins us right now. Matt, you just finished an interview. One on one. I put it up on Caroline tweeted it out. I put it up on. On my getter. Talk to us about the President. Pretty historic day there in Turnberry, sir. Okay, fine. Let's go ahead, Ben. Let's, let's see if we can reboot Bull. Although he tells me his signal is not great. If we can get it up, we'll try. Matt Bull just did a one on one interview with the President. Want to get that up? Harnwell, I've got you on here. President Trump just threw down on the Russians and you got Ukrainian. But give me your sense of, of this Tulsi Gabbard, because this is everything. We got to stick the landing here. And now you're having people like John Ratcliffe and you saw the CIA right there. Write this down, folks. He threw the FBI. That was a CIA throwing the FBI under the bus. Harnwell, Stephen A. Smith, the best surrogate we've got on this brother. What are your thoughts?
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Well, Coming starting off with Stephen A. Smith. What I don't want to cost my cynical bdis on this one too soon in my hit Steve. But I can't help draw the conclusion that he's preparing a pitch to be the Democrat nominee as he throws the.
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Nigel Farage
Whole of the Democrat establishment under the bus. Of course, the points he makes absolutely.
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Unnamed Commentator
Correct and quite sensibly for someone who's thinking, presumably thinking about hijacking the Democrat Party to to make a run. He's very much trying to pitch himself in the mold of the Democrats answer to Donald Trump. We'll see how successful that is. But he says a lot of things.
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Nigel Farage
I think that people on both sides.
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Unnamed Commentator
Of the camp will believe certainly with.
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Nigel Farage
Regards to the total lack of moral.
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Unnamed Commentator
Integrity of Joe Biden and the regime that supported him. In the media, mainstream media will always remember Joe Scarborough's I speak to this guy regularly and he's as sharp as attack. How that guy still has a show on network television I have no idea.
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It's me, it's me. It's Mika's show. It's Mika show Hangover a second. It's Mika's show. You're going to stick with us. We got a lot to go through. Particular fact that Ukraine launched an attack 325 miles into Russia last night. I think if Ben Harnwell's mass correct Moscow is only 250 or 300 away so it shows you they can reach anywhere. And President Trump just gave a wake up call to Putin after he signed it, after he got the framework for his EU deal. He told Putin hey, upon further review it's not gonna be another 40 days. Let's make it another 10 to 12. And you gotta shut this thing down. We gotta have, we gotta get a ceasefire. We have to have peace. Ben Harnwell's with us. We're gonna try to get a strong signal and get Matt Ball up. Oren Cass also joins us. Brian Harrison down at Texas. I wish I had good news for your folks in this redistricting. Not so sure I do and that is a problem. Birch Gold. Take your phone out. Text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. Get the free Ultimate Guide to Investing in Gold and Precious Metals in the Age of Trump. You also get contact. You make contact with Philip Patrick in the Birch Gold team. By the way, was that Judy Shelton interview we did on Saturday? Great. We're going to replay that this week on a Break it down and replay it birchgold.com Bannon into the dollar. You missed the IRS tax deadline. You think it's just going to go away? Well, think again. The IRS doesn't mess around and they're applying pressure like we haven't seen in years. So if you haven't filed in a while, even if you can't pay, don't wait and don't face the IRS alone. You need the trusted experts by your side. Tax Network usa. Tax Network USA isn't like other tax relief companies. They have an edge, a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which ones to avoid. They use smart, aggressive strategies to settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. Whether you owe $10,000 or $10 million, Tax Network USA has helped resolve over $1 billion in tax debt and they can help you, too. Don't wait on this. It's only going to get worse. Call Tax Network USA right now. It's free. Talk with one of their strategists and put your IRS troubles behind you. Put it behind you today. Call Tax Network USA at 1-800-958-1000. That's 800-958-1000 or visit Tax Network USA tnusa.com Bannon do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you. Do IT today. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. Okay, welcome. I think we've got a signal with the great Matt Boyle. Matt joins us. Matt, you just left Turnberry. You've been with the president for the bilat. Walk us through. Give us a highlight of the interview and what's your sense of things over there, sir?
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Yeah, and we'll be publishing the interview starting tonight throughout the week on Breitbart. But the we spent about an hour with President Trump before Prime Minister Stramer of the UK Arrived at Turnberry. We no questions were off the table, all topics. We basically covered everything. Right. So we talked about a lot about trade, a lot about peace deals, a lot about immigration. President Trump was extremely excited about the new ceasefire agreement, unconditional cease fire agreement reached between Thailand and Cambodia, which was announced just minutes before he walked into the room with us. In addition to that, obviously extremely excited about the European Union trade deal that he just negotiated that was announced last night. And in particular when he was on the when he walked in, he was on the phone with the treasury secretary and was giving him directions to Secretary Bessen as he's about to meet with the Chinese Communist Party in Stockholm, Sweden. So President Trump and his top lieutenants are fanned out around the world right now trying to put America first and they are trying to really advance his agenda. And, and that's a big part of the conversation that we had. And I think people are going to be really excited to see the core elements of the interview. We also talked a lot about immigration. World leaders are coming around. Even Keir Starmer was sounding very, he's a liberal guy, right, like, but he was sounding very tough on immigration. That's one of the things they asked President Trump about. And in addition to that, even John Kerry admits that Donald Trump was right about immigration and comparing that up against Democrats back home in the the United States and just how extreme they are on the issue.
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Yeah, you know, we opened the show with Nigel. We took the whole, you know, press car, press briefing, press avail, and we had Nigel on because he, he put out over the weekend societal collapse and as you know, reforms at 34%. It's combined with labor and the Tories are about this very topic. One of the bombshells that came out today, the EU deal had a, I don't know, almost a trillion dollars, I guess, of purchasing of American energy vis a vis Russian energy. The President then also said he called an audible, did he not? He said, hey, I think Putin's got to get back to me on the ceasefire and I don't know, 10 or 12 days, not, not the 40 that are left on the 50 original. Gave. Is, is that something you covered or just give me your thoughts on that because that's a bombshell.
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Get into the Putin thing in the interview because, I mean, frankly, I mean, we covered a lot of ground on a lot of other topics. But in the B, President Trump sat there and took questions for nearly two hours from reporters, both on Keir Starmer's way in. And after their meeting, they brought the entire press pool out and the President just sat there and rolled and took questions on everything from whether Turnberry is going to host the British Open to immigration to Russia putting the heat back on Putin to a ton of questions about Gaza from reporters. So, and I was in the room for all of that. The, the core members of his team were there for, for all of this as well. I saw Stephen Miller and Carolyn Levitt as well were there for, for this. But I mean, again, what a, what a moment here. The President is firmly in command. I mean, he's put together what he's done with these trade deals, Steve. He's pulled together more than nearly 60% of world GDP has now entered trade deals with the United States under President Trump in this first six months of this administration. I mean, that's incredible, right? Like, I mean, this EU deal last night, in and of itself, the US and EU is about 44% of world GDP. Add in Japan, Indonesia, Philippines, in the United Kingdom here, which was the first big deal, you're at 60%, right? Like, it's 57%, something like that, of world GDP. The president's put together a global alliance. He's putting the boot down on China. Right. Like, I mean, I think that's abundantly clear. Right. He's putting the boot down on China and really aggressively coming up against them, and that's why he's got Besson over there. And again, he. I asked him if he is willing to meet with Xi Jinping directly, and he said that he is. So I would imagine that a meeting between President Trump and President Xi of China is in the. In the off very soon. I think it is.
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Matt, what is the. What's the vibe over there? We were told there's going to be all these huge protests. It looks like people greeting the President, at least at Turnberry, was overwhelming. These people coming out in Scotland just to see him. It looked like almost a MAGA crowd, like, going over West Palm beach, over the bridge. What has been the. What's been the sense of the place with President Trump since he started this? A couple of days ago?
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Yeah. So I, we flew into Edinburgh a couple days ago, and then we. We were in the process of getting down here to Turnberry, and we're on our way back to Edinburgh tonight. But the. So we've gotten a real sense of the country, right? Like, we've traveled throughout the whole country. We've talked to people all over. Look, Scotland's not the most conservative place in the world, right. Like, it's pretty liberal. Right. Like, a lot of people here don't. Don't like the President's politics. But I will say everyone that we've met, to a person is extremely polite. Right. Like, so there's a, there's a politeness here. My grandparents are from Scotland. I've never actually been here before. And it's been an honor to come over here and do this interview and to cover this stuff and really get to know these people. But the, but the fact is, I had no idea that people were so polite here. Right. Like, I don't know if this is just a new thing, but almost everybody we're talking to knows that we were going there to interview the President and whatnot. And, you know, some people agree, some People don't. But I don't think that there's this like radical left like you see at home in the United States when you see the violent protest like in Los Angeles or Philadelphia or something like that, that it's not here. Right. Like, people are polite, they may, they may disagree with them, you know, and you heard it from the Prime Minister. There was. President Trump doesn't like wind energy. Right. Like, and there's a lot of windmills around. Believe me, we've seen them too. Right. He doesn't like the windmill. Not think they're terrible. I agree with them 100% on that, by the way. But the fact is that the British Prime Minister was asked about it and so was President Trump. During the bilateral press availability not that long ago that we just left. President Trump ripped the windmills very aggressively and Keir Starmer defended the windmills. Right. Like, but did so very politely. So it's a, it's just a different, I think it's a different attitude here. It's a respect for the United States and for President Trump that he probably didn't have in his first term.
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Matt, we got a bounce. I know you do too. Where do people go? Social media. And when will the interview be up?
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Yeah, just follow me at mBoyle1 on Twitter X and RealMap. Boyle on True Social and we're gonna get it out as fast as we can, but we're doing a bunch of travel logistics because we've got to get back to Washington for our big event with Secretary Besson on Wednesday. But we'll get it out hopefully starting tonight.
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