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Episode 4686: 80th Anniversary Of The Bombing Of Hiroshima
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Harry Truman
If the Japanese insist on continuing resistance beyond the point of reason, their country will suffer the same destruction as Germany. Our blows will destroy their whole modern industrial plant and organization which they have built up during the past century and which they are now devoting to a hopeless cause. We have no desire or intention to destroy or enslave the Japanese people. But only surrender can prevent the kind of ruin which they have seen come to Germany as a result of continued useless resistance.
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President Truman was at Potsdam awaiting the results of the test so that the Allies could plan their attack on Japan and hoping that a successful test would give him some leverage over the increasingly grasping Stalin. Scientists were working with components and instruments delivered just barely in time. It was ready or not, they had to commit themselves and their experiments to the test. July 13th. They began the final assembly. The bomb was hooked up to a crane which would lift it to the tower. July 14th. Finally, the ride to the top. Cables, detonators, informer, initiator, hookup. July 15th. Final dry runs, tension, everything ready. July 16th. A rainstorm with spectacular lightning delayed the test from 2am to 5:29am just before dawn. Dignitaries from the scientific world watched from the hills. Participants and watchers were instructed to lie on the ground facing away from the tower. Only after the initial flash could they look at the developing fireball. Through welder's goggles. A flare in the sky signaled the final countdown.
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The flash was later calculated to be brighter than a thousand suns miles away. A young girl, blind from birth, saw the flash. Men at the site felt the heat of a desert sun. Then came the shock wave. Two GIs at the command center stood up in their excitement at seeing the boiling cloud and were knocked to the ground. The roar followed a cascading thunderclap that rolled and boomed out across the desert.
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July 28, 1945. In Tokyo, an emergency meeting at the Japanese cabinet is summoned to consider Allied demands for immediate unconditional surrender. Their decision, Moku Satsu. Answer only with silence. August 1st. General Curtis LeMay outlines plans for the first atomic bomb raid. Because Hiroshima has no reported prisoner of war camps, it becomes primary target. The date for the raid is set. August 6th. On the island of Tinian, it is Sunday, August 5th, and a single B29 is brought under armed guard to an isolated corner of Northfield. Sleek, stripped of all but essential equipment. A million dollar plane is assigned to carry a two billion dollar cargo. Colonel Tibbets, in honor of his mother, has named his plane the Enola Gay prime concern on this day is the possibility that the Enola Gay may crash on takeoff and blow up all of Tinian. It is decided that the dangerous job of arming the bomb will be done after the plane is up. Even now, no one on Tinian is allowed to see the bomb. Late in the afternoon the squadron is given a final briefing. Weather planes, they learn, will precede them to the target cities. If the primary city, Hiroshima, is overcast, they will take the one that is open, either Kokura or Nagasaki. The takeoff will be dangerous because the weight of their payload is over £10,000. And now they learn too its full potential.
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Steve Bannon
It's not a thousand pounder, it's not a 10 ton blockbuster. This bomb has the strength of the.
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20,000 tons of TNT steaming toward home. At this moment, Harry Truman knows the decision is irrevocable. The wheels have gone full turn. In the Pentagon, General Groves and his staff remain overnight beginning the long wait. 2,000 miles away in Los Alamos, Robert Oppenheimer also waits. 2:15am Aug. 6 for 12 men, Colonel Tibbets, the crew of the Enola Gay and the navy captain who will arm the bomb, William Parsons. The last moments pass with bewildering speed. Then it's time to go with the nagging fear that the Enola Gay might not make it off the ground. It's the Enola gay arrives at 8:11am on time, on target, it will take the bomb 43 seconds to reach Hiroshima. The Enola gaze strains to escape the fury she has unleashed. At 0 minus 15 seconds, a warning tone sounds in the plane. In 10 seconds the world will shake. It's.
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Steve Bannon
Wednesday 6th August in the year of our Lord 2025, the 80th anniversary of one of the most important days in the history of mankind. The first dropping of the atomic of an atomic weapon or nuclear weapon. I have become death, destroyer of worlds. That's from Hindu the Gita Vishnu said by Oppenheimer at the very moment that in the Trinity project when he knew the bomb would actually work more than ever this audience, since you're the adults in the room, right, and are the drivers of this populist nationalist revolution throughout the world to make sure that folks with common sense, the ordinary man and woman actually calls the shots and we don't get into any more, dragged into any more conflicts like the Second World War right there in General LeMay, who had been firebombing Tokyo and the major cities of Japan because MacArthur and Nimitz's plan for the invasion of Japan, which they were Anticipating and preparing for was a 4 million man invasion of the island over time and 1 million American casualties. And of course, within the next couple of days, the Japanese surrendered. I might add, it took two nuclear weapons. Right? In their belief that there were more to come. I want to bring in Cleo Pascal, Dr. Bradley Thayer. Cleo, you just came back from the historic launch spot of the Enola Gay. Give us your assessment of Tinian, the people, how important this date is in world history.
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Cleo Pascal
Ma', am, it's a very important, obviously an emotional date for the people of Tinian. And there's a delegation from the Marianas in Hiroshima today. It's worth maybe going back to understand the geography of Tinian and why this was so important. This part of the world belonged to Japan. Tinian was part of Japan from 1914 until the Marines came through in 1944. You can see Saipan from Tinian. They were part of the same battle. And it took about 100,000American lives to get across the Pacific to be in a position to be able to claim Tinian from where the B29s were in range of Tokyo and obviously of Hiroshima. And you can take off from there. But we saw the signs Coming in 1933 there was the special great exercise in 86 day exercise run by Imperial Japan. The Emperor came on Titanian and onto Saipan where they built a Runway. And that was the launch of it all.
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Steve Bannon
Cleo, can you hang over a second? We'll hold through break. I got Dr. Bradley Thayer, I got Cleo Pascal. We're going to talk about the region, the weapon, the event, the outcome and the meaning of it today. Particularly when we are repositioning ballistic missile submarines. When I say ballistic missile submarines, I mean nuclear. The ones the boomers that can drop the hot one in this situation in Ukraine. But a lot of movement there, I think heading towards peace. Although we announced today a $200 million arms package to the Ukrainians. Dr. Bradley Thayer Cleopaskell. We also have Alex Marlowe. The editor in chief of Robert Breitbart will join us here shortly. Brian Harrison from Texas, A bunch of updates there in action taking place. General Flynn's going to be here and we're going to continue our discussion from last night on the mRNA what's happening. Want to thank my team for a magnificent, magnificent, magnificent masterpiece. Cold open short break Back in the war in a moment.
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Sign up for free and be part of the movement. I want to thank my production crew and also the guys in Denver put together a mini masterpiece right there, about 10 minutes long. No other show today will show you like that. They'll show Hiroshima, you know, Morning Jones all over that. And look that obviously the victims are important. But. But as important are the people that had to make the decision and what the information they had. And they made the decision because in the New York Times, the headlines in the New York Times today. This day has been dedicated to peace. But you're facing a world in the third World War. The kinetic part of the third World War has already started. We have now we've been told that the casualties in Ukraine are much higher than have been reported. So you have, I don't know, 2 million dead and wounded in Ukraine, you have, I don't know, over 100,000 in Gaza. They're talking about in the Times of Israel, not Breitbart or not. The war room is reporting that the son of Netanyahu is tweeting out that there's a mutiny and a coup going on by the chief of staff of the IDF because they are adamantly opposed, the Israeli army is adamantly opposed about an occupation of Gaza. They say they're too worn out, they can't do it. And so these wars are only heating up. They're not dying down, they're heating up. As much as President Trump's done a magnificent effort to try to do it, they are inexorably building steam. Can't deny what the reality is in both of these situations. And of course, the main thing, the Chinese Communist Party continues to do rehearsals for Innovation of Taiwan. So, Dr. So, Cleo Pascal, pick up where you left off about Tinian, the importance of it, the importance of the launch. All of it, ma'.
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Cleo Pascal
Yeah. So in 1933, in this great exercise, because you're talking about when is it an exercise and when is it a practice run? And 1933, we had the first takeoff of an airplane in Micronesia, and that was part of this Japanese exercise. And they also had the civil military fusion going on where they originally said that it was a sugar factory building a baseball field, but it was actually a Runway. So we're starting to see a lot of the same parallels in the way that Japan was emplacing itself, the way that it was covering over exercises, the civil military fusion component of it with the Chinese activity across the area. Tinian itself, once it was liberated by the Americans, actually is about the shape of Manhattan, shape and size of Manhattan. And so when the Seabees rebuilt it to be able to put in the Northfield runways where the Enola Gay took off from, they actually renamed all the streets after streets in Manhattan. So if you go to Tinian today, you get there's a Central park and a Broadway and it's a little bit of America, but you're also seeing the Chinese casino relics. You're seeing the money coming in. And I am extremely concerned that what you're actually seeing on the ground now, in parallel to what you saw in the 30s, is the coming in of the Chinese businesses that are going to be used by domestic politicians, including people like the deputy assistant secretary that we've spoken about and the woman representing Tinian, who is from Tinian in Congress, to go for economic independence, which leads to independence of the Marianas and maybe with a compact of free association like you see with the others. And then you have exactly the same situation that you had 75 years ago, where right off of Guam, 60 miles from Guam, you have a sort of independent place under the control of an aggressive Asian power. And that proximity to Asia that allowed the Enola Gay to take off and be in range would also allow in the other direction the US security or US vulnerability. So understanding exactly how we got to this point 80 years ago, where the US could be in a geographic position to defend itself from an aggression of Asian power, and that geographic position has been held onto for 80 years, including through plebiscite that made the people of Tinian and the rest of the Marianas decide to join the US Is now at a critical point where this may not be the case anymore. In five, ten years down the line.
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Steve Bannon
And we lost over 100,000 men just to fight our way to get there. Just to get there. You lost in probably some of the worst combat in the history of the United States, and particularly the Marine Corps, which was in the Navy, which were absolutely magnificent in that entire campaign. Dr. Bradley Thayer, there's a lot of criticism, you know, by people who don't know better, who have studied history, don't understand what's going on. But, oh, the United States was barbaric in doing this. And today on Morning Joe, you get the whole, the United States is the bad guy. The United States is evil. Put in perspective what today means, sir, in reality, not in beatnik like fantasy.
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Narrator
Sure. Stephen, great to join you again. Four quick points. First, it was the immediate cause. The atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the immediate cause of the end of this horrific war. And as a result, it saved many hundreds of thousands of American lives and many millions of Japanese lives who would have been killed in what was called Operation Downfall, which was going to be the invasion of Kyushu and and of Honshu in November of 45 and March of 46. So secondly, it realized the victory for which so many Americans and Chinese, of course, and Australians and British, Dutch Filipinos had died and their sacrifice. You had about 364,000Americans killed and wounded and missing in the Pacific War alone. And not counting about 27,000Americans who are POWs in Japan, who would have been executed if the invasion of Japan had occurred. It also kept the Soviets from getting an occupation zone, because if the war had gone on, the Soviets would have invaded essentially the northern part of Japan and would have had an occupation zone. And thankfully, MacArthur said no, when after the war, they asked for one next. It was the dawn of the atomic age. Right. This is August 6th is significant because it's the dawn of the atomic age in which we live, in which we encountered the Cold War, of course, and the world that we face today. It also underscores the need for a strong industrial base for the United States to possess the triumph of American and science and industry that made possible the atomic bombs as well as the B29 to deliver the atomic bomb. We've done about four years, Steve, four years to do both the Manhattan Project and the B29. And that organization really helped so much to underscore. We have and must have a strong industrial base as we move into the future in the war against the Chinese, then the conflict, confrontation against the Chinese Communist Party. And lastly, it defined the nature of the war in the Pacific where and those lessons are salient today. Right. That is, we face a formidable enemy in the Chinese Communist Party. There are tremendous distances, islands matter in obviously in the Pacific. In essence, this is the reverse centcom, right. Today we face the prospect of high intensity, great power warfare against a peer in the People's Republic of China. And you need to have a very strong navy, very strong air force, of course, in order to deal with that adversary. And we're not in that position today, sadly. So. August 6th of 1945, the 80th anniversary, allows us to appreciate the sacrifice. It allows us to appreciate the lives of. Saved by that EB Sledge in his famous book with the Old Breed, his memoir of the Pacific campaign, Peleliu in Okinawa, in which he was involved with the 1st Marine Division. Right. Underscored that the atomic bomb saved him and it saved his, essentially his comrades because they were going to get killed in the invasion of Japan. They knew it, they expected it. And so again, hundreds of thousands of American lives saved and millions of Japanese lives saved as a result of this conflict bombing.
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Steve Bannon
When you read Sledge, when you read Sledge's book, it's written when he's a professor at the University of Alabama. I think it was. I think it was an English professor in his old age. But it's about his thinking as a young man. I think he was 17 or 18 years old with the old Uber. You read that book, you're going to understand why they dropped a bomb. Also, people should remember they. Which they constantly confuse. An atomic bomb got dropped on Hiroshima and they didn't surrender. They didn't surrender. There was a huge fight of the Imperial Japanese High Command. The Emperor, all of it. And they were still even after the second atomic weapon was dropped on Nagasaki. My point is there are some very tough hombres in the Japanese high command that just said, hey, we're going to fight to the death. We'll just fight the Americans the entire way. We don't care how many they drop. So it was a, this was not a done deal. After the first. Think about that destruction and the destruction of their people. And they said, they said, bring it. We have to bounce. Cleo Pascal, can I get your. You're putting up content all day. This is a very important part of the world we're focused on, particularly the investigations that are going to start. Where do people go?
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Cleo Pascal
Ma', am, my ex is my name Cleo Pascal. C L E O P A S K A L. And Getter is real. Cleo, thank you for covering this, sir.
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Steve Bannon
No, it's, this is vitally important, particularly for the war. And posse, they're going to be the deciders, right? They're driving the political narrative here, which we're going to get into. A moment from Texas to this, the grand jury and all that. So, Dr. Bradley Thayer, where do people go for your content, sir?
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Narrator
I see Brad Thayer at X and Bradley Thorn, Getter and Truth. Again, thanks very much, Steve, as Cleo said, for covering this. Really historic day, of course, Historic day.
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Steve Bannon
We owe this to the greatest generation and to mankind that the war on Posse, the backbone of the MAGA movement, is reflective on this day. We'll take a short commercial break. We've got Brian Harrison in Austin, Texas, and Alex Marlowe, the editor in chief of Breitbart News. All next.
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Alex Marlow
Are broadcasting right now to an international audience. People right around the world who simply won't understand gerrymandering. They'll say, this is cheating, this is unfair. If you're in favor of it, can you explain why it just shouldn't be handed back to the voters, these kind of decisions? Why, Jerry, you believe in gerrymandering?
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Brian Harrison
Well, so I would, I wouldn't phrase it like that. I would not say that. I wouldn't say it like that. But what I would say is I agree we are a democratic republic here in the United States and in our states, the way it works, and this is true here in Texas, the voters do not vote on every issue on their own. They elect people like me and 149 others in the Texas, Texas House of Representatives to be their voice, to be their fighter for the things that they believe in. And it is incumbent on the 150 of us in the Texas House of Representatives to show up, to do our job, to roll up our sleeves and to vote or debate or amend, but to do the hard work of governing on behalf of the people of Texas. And so that's what I'm trying to do here is to say we got elected.
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Alex Marlow
So you don't have an issue then with what the Democrats have done in Illinois? You don't have a problem with gerrymandering?
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Brian Harrison
Well, what I have an issue with what's going on in Illinois is not that they have their legislature has written maps that they believe are appropriate for them. My issue is with the hypocrisy that Illinois has done a much more aggressive redistricting map that much for heavily favors the Democrats then the maps that the Texas Republicans are considering right now. So there's nobody in Illinois that with a straight face can criticize anything that the state of Texas is doing because quite frankly, we're redistricting much less aggressively for the purposes of political advantage than Democrat states like California, New York and Illinois.
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Steve Bannon
Brian Harrison joins us because of the Warren posse. And Brian Harrison, at the tip of the stage, this is the number one political story in the world. Brian, after your hits on internationally BBC, I literally was contacted from people all over the world because that goes out on BBC internationally, globally and particularly to decision makers all over the world. Greg, tell me, what is your sense that the international media is Actually worse than the American media. I mean, they're like, totally clueless. You have to go back to basics for them. So how are they? How have they handled it so far?
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Brian Harrison
Well, I basically handled them the same way I've had to handle, you know, CNN and other, you know, liberal mainstream media outlets for the last week as well. It's sort of like, how dare you Texans do something that the voters of Texas want you to do. Because we don't like what you're doing, therefore it's somehow evil and morally repugnant and wrong and you should cover your, your face in shame. Screw that. 30 million Texans elected me and 150 other people to come down here and do what they want. That's what we're trying to accomplish down here. And every one of these, you know, hypocrite, dishonest, cynical, showboating, sham Democrats, from Governor Pritzker to Governor Newsom, and the Democrats in all those states that have been radically and in extreme fashion gerrymandering their states for the last 10 years, they don't have a leg to stand on in terms of, you know, criticizing what we're doing down here in Texas. Because even the maps, if we pass the maps that we're trying to pass right now, we would still be less gerrymandered than New York, California and Illinois. So spare me the faux outrage, okay? These leftists, these radicals, these socialists, they have no problem with states redrawing maps to maximize partisan political advantage. They're just angry that a Republican state is trying to do it.
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Steve Bannon
Big time. The Massachusetts. And I knew when this started, when we had that meeting a couple weeks ago and say we got to focus on this for the grassroots, that it would cause a range war. Massachusetts came out today.
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Narrator
And my point is, hey, bring it. You already.
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Steve Bannon
Illinois and CNN never covered it at all. Illinois is the most gerrymandered, one of the most gerrymandered states. Massachusetts said they're going to take away all the Republicans, although I think Trump lost. 52, 48. Fine.
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Narrator
Bring it.
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Steve Bannon
You know, bring it. Let's, let's, let's throw down now and have it out 100%. Go ahead.
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Brian Harrison
No, no. Yes. CNN got very angry with me because I actually, they were criticizing our redistricting. I held up a map of Illinois and I put it in the camera and I told the host, I was like, did you or anybody at CNN ever drag Pritzker, put his face on TV and say, defend Illinois 13, which is a map. It's. The district is like the size of A pinky that runs all the way across the entire state. And CNN didn't like that very much. So they brought me back on. I was on 15 minutes with Kaitlan Collins, the first 15 minutes of her show. And they did their best to fact check me, to say, no, no, no, we covered it. But every clip they showed wasn't one single excerpt of CNN ever asking any Democrat in any Democrat, state legislator or governor to defend the gerrymandering that's been going so unintentionally. CNN proved the point that you and the posse and I all know to be true. These Democrats, it's nothing but projection. That's what's going on right now. Pure hypocrisy. These people are fundamentally dishonest frauds.
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Steve Bannon
Okay? One of the reasons you've been the leader of this and done such a great job, there's rhetoric and there's performance art and then there's reality. The Republican establishment has to understand we're getting this done, okay?
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Narrator
And it just can't be talk.
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Steve Bannon
And we're going to do this, going to do that, go through a Brian Harrison special. You put out a punch list of what has to be done. And there's a lot that can be done. Right. Let's just go through the punch list of what you're recommending, because last night, your recommendation that, hey, if they want to hang out in Illinois and we can't get to, if the long, long arm of the law can't get to them, then every week you're out, we pick up another seat. Right. So. So walk me through this punch. And people love that. The posse love that. So walk through exactly what Brian Harrison's punch list for the Republican establishment to get done here in the next 24 to 48 hours.
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Brian Harrison
Yeah, happy to do it. And I'll go one step backwards in time. In fact, my staff is shooting over tears right now. A very short video because context is everything here. I'll go through the list of things that, like, I would do if I were the governor or if I were the speaker. But we got to back up a couple days because it's not like the Democrats snuck out of town and nobody saw this coming and did it. You know, despite the best efforts of Texas Republican leadership to keep him here, the opposite is true. The Democrats, you know, fled the state with the full cooperation of the establishment RINO leadership of the Texas House. And in fact, I can prove it. Nobody has to take my word for me. It was just seven days ago we were on the floor of The Texas House. We had the maps filed. They were in the system. We had the Democrats in town. The Democrats were on the floor of the Texas House. We were in the chamber. We had an official quorum. All we had to do was what the speaker did a few days ago, which is do a call of the House which basically says you can't leave and if you do, you're going to be arrested. He didn't do that. Instead, what did our RINO speaker do? He adjourned the House after only seven minutes. I screamed at the top of my lungs, objection. He ignored the objection, gaveled them out, opened the doors on Wednesday so they could literally walk down the hall of the Capitol and into the open arms of Hakeem Jeffries, who had flown down here from Washington, D.C. so you got to start there. The Republican. This is as much of a failure of Republican elected leadership in Texas as it is anything else. Because if Republicans had wanted to stop this from happening, they had all the tools. They chose to let the Democrats leave. So that's number one. But number two, let's put that aside for a second. Now we are where we are. They're hiding behind Governor Pritzker and Gavin Newsom, and then California. They're all over the place. Okay, number one, we should start with the basics, all right? The parking spots. Okay? Until the parking spots are gone. I know you're not even pretending to try. Okay? Not one parking spot. Okay? It's been been revoked. All right. Seniority. These people care about their seniority because that's how they get on their committees. That's how they get their big palatial office spaces. Okay, but let's talk about the big action. There's lots of talk from the governor and other people about vacating their seats and having special elections. Well, as of it's been a week since the Democrats last had quorum. There have been zero seats vacated. Zero. We've had civil arrest warrants signed. We've had zero arrests. Okay, I want seats vacated now. I want arrests made now. I want charges. These people may well have committed criminal bribery offenses. Those legal proceedings need to get started right now. And one thing that's going to shock. Well, maybe the posse knows this, but most folks across America don't know this. Democrats hold powerful committee chairmanship in the state of Texas. Yes. Imagine if Nancy Pelosi or AOC were chairman of Ways and Means. You know, AOC was Energy and Commerce. I mean, that. That is literally what goes on here in the state of Texas. Not one Democrat chairmanship. Has been revoked. Okay. Their budgets should be slashed. So even if we can't fire the Democrat staffers, we have the power to not pay them. So why are the Democrat staffers all being paid while their bosses, you know, are outside of the country? We haven't had one single office be defunded. And then. Yeah. What I'm calling the Harrison proposal. You mentioned it. Let's play hardball. I'm sick of the Democrats being the only one that fight aggressively for the future of this country. Republicans should be fighting as hard to save America as the Democrats are on destroying it. And for every one week you're gone, we're adding one more Republican seat to the map. So you want to be gone one week? Cool. We just went from plus five to plus six. You're gone two weeks. We went from plus five to plus seven. Let's play fire or fight fire with fire. As Gavin Newsom said, I want to do that, too, but more aggressively. And then. And then finally, the easiest thing we could do because it doesn't involve the courts, there's no legal questions. This is purely whether they want to use the power they have or not. If I'm the Republican speaker of the Texas House, as long as I'm the speaker, if you're a Democrat and you're abdicating your constitutional responsibilities, any bill you ever want to pass that's got your name on it dead on arrival, it will never see the light of day in the floor of the Texas House. And if I'm the governor of the state of Texas, this is super easy for Governor Abbott, say to those Democrats right now, every one of you that hasn't shown up, any bill that's got your name on it, automatic veto, don't even bother sending it to my desk. That would make a difference. The Democrats would pay attention to action right now. But right now, the Democrats in Illinois, California, and New York, I can watch them on tv. They're literally mocking the elected Republican leadership in the state of Texas. It's embarrassing. It's infuriating. Texans want bold action. They're sick of tough rhetoric and no actions. It's time to change this.
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Steve Bannon
Yeah. It's words and deeds. Now we need deeds. So the War in Posse, we're going to get to them. The Harrison proposal, the. And they're. We're going to call the governor and we're going to call the speaker of the House. What would you like us to say when people call and say, hey, we want to put forward. We want to play smash mouth? You Got to start disciplining these Democrats. What would you like the Warren Posse. What would you like the Warren Posse to say as an opener when they talk to these folks?
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Brian Harrison
Well, I mean, one simple thing is, and you can use the tweets, I think your staff's got it. I mean, if you want to push that out there, I mean, every item on that list, ask them, yes, why has none of these things happened? I mean, all we have right now is a flurry of effectively strongly worded letters. Where is the action? Where's the beef? You know, as the old commercial used to say, like, where are the arrests? Where's the defunding of the office? Why the hell haven't you taken their parking spots away? I'm talking the basics. Oh, and by the way, I have it on very good authority that there are multiple Democrats still residing within the boundaries of the state of Texas and that elected leadership in Texas is aware of this. Those are the low hanging fruit for arrests. Why have there been no arrests made? If Democrats are in fact residing within the bounds of Texas? And if you're, you know, the governor speaker, why haven't you promised to kill every bit bill of every one of these Democrats that has fled the state? That there is no question as to the authority that some of these things. I know there are lawyers on both sides. Okay, well, this might take a court proceeding. That might not take a court proceeding. The facts of the matter are the governor could kill and veto every bill by any of these Democrats. Why hasn't he promised to do that? Why hasn't the speaker killed a bill of every day? Why hasn't the speaker taken their chairmanships away? Ask him why they haven't done these things even.
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Steve Bannon
Yeah, we're going to get on it. We're going to get everybody up on the ramparts in the next hour. But here's the thing. Even if it could be a corporate city, drive the action, be the protagonist here.
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Narrator
Be the protagonist, drive the action.
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Steve Bannon
You're absolutely correct.
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Brian Harrison
Yeah, the left, okay, We're. It's like people talk about asymmetric warfare and geopolitics all the time. Well, what we've got for not just in Texas, but in a country. And Stephen, you know this. It's been this asymmetric warfare where the Democrats have no limiting principles. They will stop at absolutely nothing to achieve whatever their leftist, you know, totalitarian, authoritarian goals are. Meanwhile, the Republicans are all like, well, there might be a legal question and we're probably right, but I don't. We want to get sued. Guys, it's time to wake up. Smell the music. It's 2025. It's World War Three out our window. The left is coming to destroy our country. They want to bankrupt the next generation. They want to destroy the blessings of the freedoms and liberty of prosperity that our forefathers fought and died for. It's time to fight as aggressively against the left as the left is fighting against our country. I'm sick of beanbag, you know, weak establishment Republican politicians. Democrats are playing hardball. It's time Republicans fight back.
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Steve Bannon
What's your Twitter? We got about 10 seconds. What is. What is.
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Brian Harrison
At Brian E. Harrison on X. At Brian E. Harrison. At Brian E. Harrison.
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Steve Bannon
Do it today.
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Narrator
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, Alex Marlo joins us. We're very fortunate that in this, this fight, which is a multiple fronts, right? We got the Texas. Now it's a nationwide redistricting, right? And it's the number one political story in the world right next to. We have a grand jury, I believe in south Florida on the, on this seditious conspiracy, treasonous conspiracy. You're going to have the house come back. All of this you got. Not just Epstein, you've got everything. On the treasonous conspiracy in Russiagate it's. And you got 150, 175 lawsuits on President Trump's article to power. They're all interconnected. And they're interconnected because this is how the Democrats are going to run now. Because they can't beat you at the, they can't beat you at the polls. And now that we got people like Seagal Chadha in Nevada, the new U.S. attorney that says on, on local TV last night with the interviewer, she's now the acting Attorney General, you know, what are your priorities? Election integrity. They fully melt down because they know it's going to be harder to steal elections. Alex Marlow has written that battle plan. It's called Breaking the Law, Exposing the weaponization of America's legal system against Donald J. Trump, in which President Trump on the COVID says it's a must read. So Alex, you just heard Harrison both with the BBC and then on the war room down in Austin. Your thoughts, sir?
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Narrator
Steve, think about this. When you joined up with Breitbart, when was it? 12 years ago or so. And Andrew's there and Andrew is fighting to try to make conservatives cool and fun and make sure that we're not scolds. And now we got Sydney Sweeney in the jeans and the left is like, you guys take her. And we're like, okay, that sounds great. And then now we've got, the Republican establishment is completely irrelevant here. And you got guys like Brian out there going on BBC and the BBC saying, well, isn't this unfair that we're gerrymandering? And then Brian just goes, I don't care. I literally don't care at all. I got elected to serve a constituency of people and they want this and I'm going to deliver it for them. And anyone who's not with me is no longer a part of the core Republican movement. That's the answer we wanted. We've been dreaming of this and now it's here. We're fighting now and we're fighting with a smile on our faces. It couldn't be better.
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Steve Bannon
Couldn't be better. This is what Andrew's always dreamed of. It just. And then we're playing and we're playing smash mouth. Talk to me about the book. The book sets the battle plan here of what the environment is. You make specific recommendations, but you also frame this, that it's kind of one stop shop. People can get up to speed on exactly what these different verticals are. Walk me through it.
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Narrator
Yeah. Thank you for that, Steven. You had a great quote last night on Your show where you called it a primer and it is that. That's partially what it is. And where I started was just no one's really pieced together these cases. There were six key cases against Trump. He had to win all these cases. He didn't have to win them, but he'd at least survive them while he was running for president. Running for president from a courthouse because of massive election interference that was controlled from the top, from the Joe Biden White House. Blatantly illegal needs to be investigated, and we need to start seeing some heads roll over this thing. However, no one can really even sort out the six cases in their head. Julie Kelly can, but most people can't do this. And I tried to write something so that people could actually understand the experience, extent of the lawfare, the extent that it's connected to the other hoaxes of our time. One of the things that I really want to highlight to you and the posse on the show today was the Stormy Daniels case, the one case that ended in convictions, criminal convictions for Trump. Never should have happened. The reason why that case ended up in a conviction was because of the Russian collusion hoax. Michael Cohen was a key subject of the Russiagate investigation. The government was able to get access to his Gmail account, the Justice Department, in the special counsel, from Robert Mueller's investigation. All of this started with the Russiagate hoax. If there is no Russiagate hoax, there is no Stormy Daniels conviction, which, by the way, we gotta throw out all those convictions on that front. But the point is, no one understands the interconnectivity of all of the lawfare. It is from a superstructure. It's a massive apparatus. I explained the apparatus, who funds it, what they're doing now, how it's connected to the Bosebergs of the world. This is their only way to stop the MAGA agenda right now. And they're working 247 right now to do it.
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Steve Bannon
Do. Here's the thing, the Republican establishment, so many of those are lawyers and tied into these big law firms, they are particularly hesitant. You see this in the Bill Barnes world. This is an area they're particularly hesitant to get involved in. And you can see this down in Texas, what's happening right now. Walk me through that. This is the most important area for Democrats. It's the tip. It's where they're really. Their weapons are pointed at us, you know, downrange, right at us. Yet the intellectual legal elite of the. By and large. Right. Of the. Of the Republican Party doesn't want to touch this you get the Mike Davises, you get the Boris's, you get the. You get the Harrisons, you get the fighters. But the white shoe, Republicans don't want to touch that. Why is that?
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Narrator
Yeah, but it's because of all the money. It's because they've taken all these loans, they've gone through the system, and then now finally they can make some money. And they're not gonna be welcomed in polite society if they take on jobs for President Trump or connected to the conservative movement. And it takes bravery, it takes bold leaders. Right now, I like you talking about you being the hero. You gotta think yourself as a main character in this. And attorneys, conservative attorneys have to stand up, have their voices heard right now because there is a massive effort to blackball conservative attorneys, people who work for Trump and help President Trump. And we're not just talking about keeping you out of the best firms. We're talking about making it so that you might not even be able to practice law at all. They look for ways to disbar you. They look for ways to make sure that you're not welcome anywhere. And this is a massive problem with the legal infrastructure and the superstructure that they built. And it is a real threat because we need the best attorneys as well. But that's why people need to stand up. Cancel Culture was a phase. We're blowing past it. And the legal world is gonna have to deal with that right now.
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Steve Bannon
Alex, can you hang on for a moment? I want to keep you through the top of the hour. What have you got? General Flynn is also going to join us, but I need to keep Alex Mueller rent. You've got to get this book one more time before you end this segment. The top of the hour. I want to know where people can go get the book. Where are they going to get all your writings, where they get access to you and access to this amazing primer on this war that we're fighting now.
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Narrator
Thank you. Thank you. Breaking the Laws out now, released yesterday. And I appreciate the plug, Steve. It's really kind of. This is a book that I wrote. It need to be written because I think this thing can really help the Republic because this is the number one threat to maga. This book is a warning. It's not just a history lesson. This is a warning about what's going on right now as we speak. Connecting the dots and calls to action for all of you. We need the grassroots to get behind the effort, to try to be engaged and involved. 24 7. We cannot sleep. We are at war right now.
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Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon
Short break.
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