
Episode 4687: Breaking The Law Of Two Tiers Of Justice ...
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Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
Alex Marlow
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
General Mike Flynn
MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
Steve Bannon
I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Wednesday, 6th August in the year of our Lord 2025. It is a solemn day. It is the 80th commemoration of the dropping of the atomic weapon on Hiroshima. And General Flynn will join us in a second to continue our discussion that we had with Cleo Pascal and Dr. Bradley Thayer. In the first hour. I want to make sure too Jim Rickards will have Jim on later in the week, one of our contributors here, one of the best geostrategic thinkers, capital markets, all of it. Rickardswaram.com is a landing page we have that you can go get a special deal on strategic intelligence. Remember the C suites? That's The Chairman and CEOs read this every month. We get make sure you get access to it because no, the war room loves the content that he brings. Also he throws in a free book, MoneyGBT, which is about artificial intelligence and fiat currency. I think it'll get your attention. Rickardswarroom.com Go sign up today for strategic intelligence. You won't regret it. Alex Marlow. So, Alex, we got the Texas situation, but there's something happening and I think it's in South Florida or somewhere in Florida, also in Washington, D.C. so you have the House investigations and you have the criminal aspects of this. Right? How important is it for us to stick the landing on these two? Because this ain't going to be. If you read your book, you get the joke. This is not going to stop until we make it stop, sir.
Alex Marlow
Yeah, we have to make it stop. And how are you going to make it stop if no one's held to account? One of the fundamental issues with maga, promises made, promises kept. There are two tiers of justice in this country.
General Mike Flynn
Now.
Alex Marlow
You can have General Flynn on. There's a tier of justice for you, Steve, and a tier of justice for General Flynn. And then there's others for Hillary Clinton, there's others for James Comey, Brennan Clapper. These guys got TV deals and book deals instead of getting handcuffs. Why is that? Because there really are two tiers of justice in this country and the public is not going to go with that. People who are new to the coalition, people who maybe thought of themselves as populist Democrats, maybe are young people who never voted before, but maybe voted for President Trump last time. Unless they start seeing evidence that the bad guys who have been harming this country for the last several decades are held to account, then how are they going to trust us? They're not going to trust us. This is a trust building exercise, restoring law and order in this country. The left hates law and order. That's an opportunity for us. That's an opportunity for us to be the stewards of the Constitution, to try to restore sanity at our border. It's all in the same vein. They don't believe law and order matters because all they care about is political victory. That, that's a lesson. We need to internalize that. All they're trying to do is to beat us. That's why they take you off the battlefield. They take a doctrine of our off the battlefield. They're just trying to win. And once you see that, fundamentally that we're letting them win by not prosecuting. No perp walks, no handcuffs. If we don't accept that that is playing into their hands, then we completely miss the plot.
Steve Bannon
Why is your book the best primer for this, sir? Why should this audience and everything else they got going on, why should they purchase it? Why should they read it? Why should they take notes? Why should they come and ask questions, get into the chats, you know, get access to you on your radio show? Why is this, with everything else going on, why, why this book and why now?
Alex Marlow
Thank you and thanks for mentioning my show. I am podcasting now the Alex Marlowe show, so you guys can get that wherever you get your favorite podcast. The two answers to that. Steve. First of all, I try to write in a way that's accessible. I'm not an attorney. I'm not trying to write for a some sort of elite audience. I'm trying to translate very complicated information to, to a readable, digestible. There are parts of the book that I think are actually funny. You'll actually be laughing. Some of the Eugene Carroll stuff. It's so absurd if you're not laughing during it. You and I do not have the same sense of humor. Even as horrible as the things that were done to President Trump, it actually comes off as funny sometimes. So I'm trying to make it. So that's enjoyable for you to get this really important information. But the last portion of the book is a call to arms for this audience. And this is why I reached out to you, Steve. I said this. I only reached out to two hosts and said specifically, I want to be on your shows. You're one of those two because of the posse. Because here's the bottom line. If we don't get all the perp locks and all the handcuffs that we need and that we deserve and justice is fully served, and I get cynical about this stuff, I don't expect everything I want here. The only way we're gonna win this long term is if the grassroots is fully engaged, if they stay on a wartime footing. 24, 7. If you don't wait just for national elections once every four years or once every two years to go vote.
General Mike Flynn
No.
Alex Marlow
This responsibility to save this Republic is a 24, 7, 365 battle. And if we make the mistake of playing it cool right now, acting like we're in victory mode because Trump won, that's where we're going to lose ground. Because they're working now to defeat us. They've got terrible ideas. They've got not charismatic people. We've got the best ideas, we've got the strongest movement. But we've got to maintain that energy and that focus and get to the polls. People got to vote and win. Pick the best guys, demand the most from the people who you've elected. And that's a constant effort for diligence and vigilance. That's why you're such a great leader in this, in this part of the movement, Steve. And that's why I think it's important for your audience.
Steve Bannon
Okay, Alex, where they get the book and where they get everything about your podcast writings, all of it.
Alex Marlow
Thank you. Breitbart.com is the place to go for all the news. Alex Marlow Show Podcast, Daily News, Podcast and Breaking the Law. Wherever you get books, Amazon's fine with me if you don't like it. Books a million. But it should be on shelves as of yesterday.
Steve Bannon
I think what we're going to do, folks, is I'll announce sometime next week in the 6 o' clock hour where we have a little more space to breathe. I want to get Alex on and maybe we'll have a tutorial on the books. I want your copy so you can follow along at home. And we'll walk through it. So, Alex, I'll bug you about that after the show today, but thank you so much. First of all. Thank you. Taking people understand writing books like this is so time consuming. And your timing on this one as divine providence. Right. Exquisite. Wow. Your timing on the last one, I think came out what you came out on the Tuesday after the October 7th when. When war is breaking out in the Middle East. So better timing this time, sir. Is defined. Providence is looking over your shoulder.
Alex Marlow
Kind of you to say clearly, divine providence is looking out for this country right now. But we cannot use that to get lazy. And that's why I feel like we got to be highly aggressive. This is the lesson in the first Trump administration. We cannot let our guard down for a second.
Steve Bannon
War footing. I agree with you. Your task and purpose. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you.
Alex Marlow
Thank you, Steve.
Steve Bannon
Alex Marlow, editor in chief, editor in chief of Breitbarter, started as, and this is for young people out there. Alex started as his basically assistant Grundoon body man and now is the editor in chief. After many, many years of hard work, General Flynn joins us. General Flynn, I want to draft off of what Alex said right there, but I got to go back. And one of the reasons I wanted to have you on today of all days was the 80th commemoration of really the beginning of the atomic age. And tie this into what you're talking about, your laws of Flynn's laws of diplomacy. Right now, my concern is that the third world, the kinetic part of the third world war is upon us. We've had 2 million casualties in Ukraine. Right. At least a minimum. Right. And President Trump says the Ukrainian number is actually higher. You've had, I know, over 100,000. When you add everything up in Gaza, Gaza looks like it's getting worse by the day. They're now fighting with each other. The Israeli high command about this occupation or surrounding or the IDF is saying we can't do it in Ukraine. President Trump, $200 million arms deal today. I know Witkoff's with Putin and there may be some movement there, but every day, you know, we've repositioned ballistic missile submarines because President Trump doesn't like the way that they're talking publicly. Put this in perspective, sir. 80 years from the day that the United States dropped the nuclear weapon to end the greatest of all wars and to save 4 million Americans for having to invade Japan and 1 million American casualties, sir.
General Mike Flynn
Yeah. So a couple of things, and I know you've had a lot of people talking about this, you know, to My friends in Japan, I mean, they clearly understand, you know, the reason and the purpose of why we did what we did at that point in time in history. And people need to know that the first bomb that was dropped there was actually an outreach to the Japanese leadership to say, hey, you know, you see what just happened? Are you guys willing to capitulate? And the answer was basically silence or no. I mean, historians have told it different ways. And so a second bomb was dropped, you know, in the preceding month. Had we not done that, there was already estimates of casualties killed, an action of potentially as many as a half a million more, principally US Marines at that time. So to end the war at that time and what was going on in, in Europe to, you know, where the timing of the end of the war in Europe, it had to be done. And sadly, that's what happens when you escalate to the type of warfare that happened then. So let's jump to where we are today. And that's why I put this sort of my rules for diplomacy out, Steve. And I know for, I know now that I, because I just watched a Putin interview or speech that he gave in the last 24 hours. It's almost like he read this document. So there's a couple of things, number one, and I'll, because I will wrap this into what's happening in the Middle east, because the Middle east is, you know, we are moving away from peace, is the big strategic picture, right? We wanted, we voted for a president that was going to fight for peace and wars on day one and do the things that he said he was going to do during a campaign. But we're actually, we just, we just, you know, refunded, I think, the numbers of $200 million or more to Ukraine. So we are moving away from peace. What Russia wants is, Russia wants, they basically want no, no Naito involvement by Ukraine. They want no significant, what they call significant offensive weapons position in Ukraine, meaning probably some kind of tactical nuclear weapons. And they basically want, they want to, you know, the understanding that the Crimea and I do believe that there is a element that has not been raised yet about Odessa. So when we talk about what it is that we need to talk about, number one, and this is why I came out with this, this piece this weekend about these rules for diplomacy. And like I say in the article, I'm not a diplomat, but people need to read these rules because this is about trust, transparency between great, great nations, right, and the leaders that are running those nations. And these great nations are principally the nations that have nuclear weapons. And you know, the big principal nations are, of course, the United States of America, Russia and China. One of the other things, Steve, that we must consider and it has to be considered and I, and I might have said, said this to you when we were talking earlier, but we have got to pull Russia out of the umbrella of China. And when we talk about economics, we talk about banking, we talk about the financial, global financial system, because you mentioned that you're going to have a gentleman on, I guess, tomorrow when we talk about the global financial system, the brics, Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, that that is coming into its forest and China is the big dog in that room. So we've got to understand when we fight for peace, and I'm talking about we are going to have to have some type of compromising elements within the conditions that are put on the table to stop the war in Eastern Europe. Because while that's all going on, we have now what's going on in Israel, inside of Israel, essentially there's a, there is a tough, tough struggle internal to Israel because of the situation in Gaza. I, you know, we could have a show just on that and what the Arab nations must do because, you know, the Arab nations, I think, are still continuing to get a pass. And this is where Trump has the gravitas and he's got the mandate from the American people to put demands on many of these things. I'm not a fan of Zelensky. I think we're back in the wrong course in this regard. I don't think Zelensky and in fact, I'll mention a name that very few people even know of. His chief of staff is named Yermov. These are bad guys, and I'll say it so people need to understand it. We have got to fight for peace. People have got to understand that there's got to be a trust and a transparency between great nations and those great nations right now have nuclear weapons. And we are on the verge. When you have the president of the United States talking about repositioning one of the legs, the serious legs of our nuclear triad publicly, that's not a good thing for the president, United States to be talking about because we've already heard nuclear weapons and the deployment and actually a triad of Russia which was partially destroyed by Ukraine, you know, not only a couple of months ago. So all these things are converging, Steve, and we got to be very careful that we're not moving towards a nuclear.
Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon
Welcome back. By the way. Getter. I'm putting up stuff all night long. If you want to see where the war room is, make sure you go there first. So, General Flynn, let me ask you, because this thing is very well thought through and I agree with you that if we don't, I think, take your rules and kind of follow them, we're going to be in a even deeper, deeper into the kinetic part of the Third World War. But here's a. And I think when the Russians say, hey, we don't want offensive, I don't think they're talking about tactical nukes. I think they're talking about the types of missiles we're saying that could hit Moscow and even drones. And I agree with you, I think Odessa is their target. I'd be quite surprised if you could cut a peace deal now that didn't have the Russian army somehow marching towards Odessa. But how do we have trust among the great powers? How do we have trust among the great powers right now when, as you know, our CIA, working in Wiesbaden with, you know, guys that used to report to you at dia, are running the war out of Germany and they do a strike that Curtis LeMay couldn't even think about, couldn't even dream about to take out, you know, half of the RussiansA third of the Russian triad of the strategic bombers with drone strikes a couple of months ago. You have, you know, Laura Loomer, every day is banging on Qatar as the funder of the Muslim Brotherhood. And you got Netanyahu's cabinet's in, or some of the guys running his cabinet, some of his aides are in business with the Qatar and they're trying to have an investigation. And this whole thing in Gaza gets very, very, you know, not transparent because we haven't even had an answer on October 6, how this even happened, how it got past Sin Ben and Mossad and the CIA and Saudi intelligence and all that, and you've got one situation after the other. The, the Israelis do the strike on that day with the urgency, which the worm doesn't think there was any urgency, and they take out the negotiators. Witkoff's going to meet in Oman, in Muscat, Oman, on Sunday, and they kill all the negotiators on Friday. The actions of the combatants are so counter to any types of trust. How do you build it back when you're sitting there going. The way for me to get an advantage right now and advantage either territory or killing more of their people and breaking their will is actually, actually to not be transparent, but to actually be sneakier but more lethal in how I'm going to be cunning and sneaky. Sir.
General Mike Flynn
Yeah. So a couple of things. You know, first, we have in the White House President Donald J. Trump, one of the, you know, one of the smartest guys when it comes to negotiations. He's going to have to pull his team in. And the things that you just highlighted, Steve, the things that I talked about before, I mean, there is so much information out there that Donald J. Trump needs to have that information, so he can't have an excuse like, I didn't know that the CIA was doing this. I didn't know that the Department of Defense was doing that. So there can be. And his negotiators, the various negotiators I mentioned in my article about a, about a general officer over and over in Europe that's, you know, he's so far out in front of his headlights, he ought to be relieved. So the President needs to pull his team together like now and say, okay, I want to know everything that is going on right now in, and not only in Europe, but also in the Middle east that I should be aware of. And because now what I'm going to do next is I'm going to start to call up, I'm going to get a hold of Putin, I'm going to say to maybe Xi, I'm going to talk to some of the leaders and say, hey, guys, look, we are moving towards a standoff that we, we, we're not going to be able to get out of white. Right. You may not want war, but war wants you. And once it grabs hold of you, it is going to move, it is going to move the world in a different direction, in a very dangerous direction. So Trump is going to have to put, he's going to have to insert himself in these, these negotiations that are going on by, by these special envoys. Fine. Those are tactics Trump needs this. He needs to set the conditions right now at the leader level and I mean at the president to president, president to prime minister level and say this is what we are going to expect. And then he needs to go back to his team and, and say this is what I just said, this is my commitment and this is what America is going to do. Because one of the things that I do bring out is the lies that we have been telling so many. I mean, we don't have, we don't have two, two legs to stand on, Steve, right now because of our own past history. This is why Trump got elected. Trump is not one of the, and you know this, you know as well as I do, Trump is not one of the standard political guys who continues to bull waits through, you know, a political life lifestyle. Trump is one of these guys that comes in and says this is what we need to do, you know, negotiate it. And he is probably going to have to be the negotiator. I'm sorry, there's a lot of other economic stuff that can be dealt with because one of the other plays, and we've seen this over the last 72 hours with India. I'm very concerned about the stuff about India and the back and forth, you know, to India because India is one of the principal military to military relationships with Russia. I mean, a lot of the Indian capabilities come from Russia. So you're going to have oil flow, you're going to have all these relationships that the American people don't understand. All of these things matter, Steve. This is where Trump is going to have to insert himself from a foreign policy perspective. And I mean, you know, he is going to have to do it, you know, President Trump, you're going to have to step into the, into the fire because, because guess what? And you've been talking about this, we've been talking about this for a month. And Alex Marlowe just highlighted, you know, in his great book, we have a problem right here at home that must be dealt with. We have an accountability issue that must be dealt with. And I keep telling those foreign leaders that I talk to and, and the ambassadors that I see in Washington D.C. periodically, I keep telling them, do not mistake what we're going through internally here in the United States of America as a weakness. This is a strength of our constitutional order. And as ugly as we are operating inside of our family, we're going to fix these problems. We're going to hold people accountable. Trump has to do that. He has got to, he's got to assure to The American people, that, that is going to happen. He is the chief law enforcement officer for the country, not the Attorney General. At the same time, he's going to have to juggle these crystal balls of what we just talked about overseas. And these are big, big crystal balls that cannot be dropped. And that's why he is going to have to insert himself in these negotiations. And I'm not talking about long ones, I'm talking about phone calls. And it's not guys like Zelensky that are, that are, that have a seat at the table. I'm sorry. Zelensky has screwed himself into the, into the ceiling by his own personal actions. And we can't allow the neocons, both on the right and the left. Right. I mean, we have them on both sides to drive us towards war because it's good for them, it's not good for the American people. And frankly, the American people have had enough of it. And they are now going back to the, to the reason why they voted for Donald J. Trump. And they're saying, we voted for peace, we voted for accountability, we voted to get our country back, back, you know, on a stance where we are proud of it again. That's what we voted for. And, and Donald J. Trump knows that he needs, he needs the team around him to help him get there.
Steve Bannon
Hang on. Okay, walk me through the. And I'm going to take these in order and then combine them and then toss it to you. You have in the three entities on kind of our side at the United States. And Marlow just said it best. We're on war footing and we're on war footing on this, on the criminal investigation of the seditious, the seditious conspiracy, which Trump says perfectly is the greatest political crime in the history of the nation and that we have to understand something. We don't want to be united to people. It is going to tear us apart to a degree. But we've got to see it to its end or we're not to have control of the deep state. In addition, what's going to happen in the House, so in the United States itself as we go forward, we are going to be in this internal struggle. That's just a fact in Ukraine. And I was disappointed that President Trump's not being briefed as well, because when they asked him about the 60 year olds, Zelensky's whole apparatus is falling apart. The people passed this bill, they want a corruption thing. They want to know where this US Money's gone. They're very upset about it. They're now passed a bill that 60 year olds can fight because the parents don't want their kids to fight. The Ukrainians are absolutely at each other's throats now politically because of the determination of the war. And then the worst is right now in Israel where the IDF has said, you know, for political reasons, Netanyahu has come up with that we got to occupy Gaza right now. And this is going to be like this Iranian situation where they can't finish what they started. He is looking for American troops to come in and be part of that because the IDF doesn't have it. Who tells me that? Not Steve Bannon, not Breitbart, not General Flynn. The Times of Israel and the Jerusalem Post are saying they're at each other's throats in these meetings where the IDF is sitting, the general sitting there going, dude, my troops are worn out. I can't even take down Hamas right now. Militarily, we're struggling to do that. I can't occupy a thing with millions of people, people. It'll be worth 10 times worse than Iraq. So when you have the three principal combatants on our side that internally had these massive struggles. Right. How do you unite or how do you clean up that before we force the Chinese Communist Party, the mullahs in Tehran and the KGB in Moscow to be transparent? Sir.
General Mike Flynn
Yeah, it's like we're the henhouse and the wolves have surrounded it and they are just lathering at their, you know, at their chops there. Number one, the war fighting footage footing that the United States of America is on. Donald Trump must crush the deep state. And there's all. And he's got to start at the top and he's got to crush it. He's got it. He's got to give full authorities to, you know, the Department of Justice, the intelligence community. And Tulsi Gabbard has been doing an amazing job. That's number one. He's got to crush the deep state. And he can do it. He can do it by holding people accountable for essentially treasonous subversive actions. Number two, the war in Ukraine. That war Ukraine lost. Okay? The fact that Ukraine is having to go the levels that they're having to go to. The money laundering that has come out of Ukraine. I mean, Steve, I'm part of a whistleblower case that has a 48 billion. It's a file filed in federal court. A $48 billion billion with a B. $48 billion money laundering case that we have, that we have filed on behalf of whistleblowers that that is money that was taken from us taxpayers and then laundered through Ukraine and brought back. And we know where some of those people, some of the people that took us. So the war in Ukraine, the Ukrainians government, the leadership lost that war. That's over. And this is where Trump's got to be really shrewd about his negotiations with with Putin.
Steve Bannon
Mike, Mike, Mike, hang on for one second. Just hang on for one second. I want to take a short commercial break. We got a whole hold you over because you're getting to the punchline. General Mike Flynn is with us. He once again reiterates the president needs to crush the deep state. If we don't do that, everything we fought for is going to be reversed and they're going to come back after President Trump 100%. And Mike Flynn and others, including your host, they must be crushed. Short commercial break Back in the War in a moment. According to the Department of Energy, blackouts could increase by 10,000% over the next few years. It's because of massive energy demand from artificial intelligence data centers. We talk about that all the time here in the war room. And we have a fragile power grid. It just cannot keep up with that demand. I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of being without power even for a day. That's why I got the grid Dr. 3300 from my patriot supply. It's a powerful solar generator that runs refrigerators, AC units, medical devices, power tools, anything you need to ride out a blackout. And right now, for their Christmas in July event, they're including over $1,000 in free survival gear with your generator, including emergency food supply, water filtration, survival tubes and more. You heard that, right? Over a thousand bucks in free gear for a limited time. Head to my Patriotsupply.com Bannon that's my Patriotsupply.com Bannon and grab the Christmas in July bundle before it's gone. Blackouts are coming. Go to my patron supply.com/Bannon and get prepared. Today, here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. General Flynn, thank you. I know you're busy. Thank you for hanging. We just need you for a couple of minutes here, okay? Crush a deep state internally. Got to do that. Got to put all the resources to it. You're saying the Ukraine. The Ukraine lost. And I think they're losing their own people in this under Zelensky's regime. Third, this Occupy Gaza. When I hear Occupy Gaza, I hear American troops occupy because the IDF can't Do it. And the IDF chief of staff has been adamant. These cabinet meetings have been at each other's throat to Netanyahu's kid son, who's 30 some years old, is tweeting out there's a mutiny and, or a coup d' etat happening with the IDF against his father as the head of the Israeli government. Your thoughts on all this?
General Mike Flynn
Yeah. So, number one, I finished with the war in Ukraine is lost. The Ukrainian, that war was so poorly managed and so many Ukrainian soldiers, lives were lost because of corrupt political leadership, period. And frankly, we don't have a leg to stand on because we've had many people over the last number of years that have been over there, you know, on codel, staff, dells, whatever dells you want to call them, and they all know it. It's just been a big one, big money sip. So, so that's where I stand on, on Ukraine. And it's sad. It's a sad situation. Israel, Israel, the Israeli government. And I know that there's some machinations and there's got to be some big, big problems right now internal. And Netanyahu is dealing with it, with the idf. They're going to have to do some soul searching, and I mean immediate Soul searching, because the 7th of October was a date, you know, that they still have not been able to. And there's an investigation going on and I've already heard from some of the soldiers that were told to stand down and the exact hours. So something bad happened and it was an inside thing. I don't know. You know, again, that. So that's a bombshell right there. So the internal situation in Israel has got to be done with.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't drop a bomb like that. Mike Flynn, your former head of dia, first national security adviser, President Trump, a revered figure globally. You're saying your sources are telling you on the investigation that they're trying to slow down and slow walk over there because we're coming up on the second anniversary of it. You're saying that you're hearing there's testimony or documents or actual evidence that certain elements of the, of the Israeli military were told to stand down. Because I know from people, I know this is a very contentious area and it's going to be explosive. Are you hearing the same thing, Steve?
General Mike Flynn
You can go back to interviews that I did, like the next day and the following week after October 7th, in multiple, broad alternative media, where I said something went wrong. Because, Steve, I have personally walked that border. I have been down at those, at those areas. And I know, I know the, the details of how the Israelis, one of the most secure borders in the world, how they do their operations. So I know that. So something broke down and it wasn't because of mistakes. So that's number one. This internal machinations that are going on right now. What's going to have to happen, they're going to have to come to grips with this because I'm going to tell you, the American people, they're getting tired of it. They're getting tired of, of this constant, you know, Israel, Israel, Israel. I mean, I'm the biggest fan. I'm the biggest fan. I would, you know, I have. I have been Israel many times. I have, you know, served alongside them. I have done things with them, certainly on the intelligence side. So I'm their biggest fan. But the American people are not. And the American people are so tired of all of the craziness and our involvement.
Steve Bannon
But, Mike. But, Mike. But, Mike, Mike, they're ratcheting up. When you hear we're going to occupy Gaza, when even the chief of the staff of the IDF goes, are you crazy? Our troops, our IDF regulars, forget the reserves, our regulars are worn out right now. We haven't taken down the military capability of Hamas. Let's leave the hostages aside. When you hear occupy, I hear American troops to occupy like, like in Baghdad, because this is what's the idf. Just like the Israelis couldn't defend themselves and they started the war with the Persians and couldn't. Didn't have the offensive capability to take out the. And they knew that. Netanyahu knew that at the beginning here, there is no possibility they have the ability to occupy Gaza. They don't. Don't take it from me, that chief of staff of the idf, some pretty tough hombre, he's telling them, we don't, we can't do that. Are you crazy? They're ratcheting. This thing's getting ratcheted up at the very time you're saying, hey, we need transparency and we need to tone it down, sir.
General Mike Flynn
Yeah, we definitely need to tone it down. Now, I will tell you that I want people as another reminder. Reminder of the Marine barracks in Beirut that were blown up. Right. Because we were occupying Beirut at the time we were doing operations there. I mean, we have got to remember a lot of history that people don't want to bring up with, with a president of the United States. So before we start making decisions about what we're going to do or not do. And this is in support of Israel. There's a lot of soul searching that needs to be done, not only in the Israeli leadership halls, but also here in the United States. The last thing I'd say, Steve, is the Arab world, and this is my shot across the bow to them. They had better step up because we are pouring billions and billions of dollars into the Arab world for all these deals, Qatar being one of them. You know, Trump just did a big old visit there a couple of months back. I mean, they have got to take some responsibility. Otherwise this is just going to continue to be a cycle of violence, a cycle of war, and it's going to draw the United States into something that we can't afford any longer. All while we are having. All while we are on a war footing right here in our own country. Steve.
Steve Bannon
General Flynn, where do they get your article? Where do people get your. Your 10 principles? You've laid out everything, all your content, now more than ever, and particularly against the Deep State. Because they came for you first, but it's not the last time they're going to come for you, and certainly not the last person. And this match with the Deep State, we're either going to win it, and if we don't win it, they're going to take. They're going to run the country. To be brutally frank, we either take it out now or they're going to run the country. So where do people go? Because you're one of the leading protagonists in this drama, sir.
General Mike Flynn
Yeah. What Steve Bannon just said is 100% accurate. They will come gunning for us in a second. People can find me@generalflinn.com that's my website. And of course on X, which, and I know you also push getter. I'm on Getter as well. En Flynn and I post everything. And I want people to understand what we're up against. And the worst problem that we have is the subversion and espionage that is directed against the United States of America ongoing right now. And that has to be dealt with. That's what America first is all about, Steve. So thanks for having me on.
Steve Bannon
But you're saying. But you're saying espionage directed not simply by our external threat enemies, but principally by the deep state that has taken. That has taken root here in the United States. Our number one thing is we don't clean that up. We don't have a chance to clean anything else up. Correct.
General Mike Flynn
Yeah. When I was a second lieutenant, I used to go give these, what's called Saida briefings subversion and espionage directed against America to these, to my, my bosses, right, they used to laugh at me, but I had to do it, you know, on an annual basis because it was a, it was the standard cub briefings right now. Now what we've had here I am, you know, whatever, 45 years later. And it's real and we've known about it for a long time. Obama is really at the, at the heart of this thing and this is very real. I am not kidding. And it's not just, you know, some group of hoodlums that, that met in the Oval Office on the now known 8 December and 5 January of 2016 and 2017, respectively. There are thousands of people in our government that are part of this effort. And Trump has his hands full and he's got the right team in there, but they got to move at a much faster pace. I don't want to hear, honestly, Steve, I'll say one last thing. If you keep me for 30 more seconds, I don't want to hear people telling me or saying how hard it is and how, you know, how hard they're working. You know, I used to, people would come in and see me as a, when I was a commander, they'd go, well, sir, we're working hard on it. I said, did you work last night? Did you, you know, did you work this morning on it? I mean, that's what I want to see when people, because we, we, the people of this country are expecting our, our appointed and elected officials to work their asses off. If it's too tough for you, get out of the way, somebody else will step in.
Steve Bannon
Amen. General Flynn, thank you so much. Thank you so much. Time with us this morning.
General Mike Flynn
God bless you.
Steve Bannon
The enemy within and then the enemy without. Thank you so much. Amazing. Let's get Grace and Ray can put it out. So there's so much going on, number one. In fact, do we have the clip from my interview with Dr. Ryan Cole last night? Can I play just the clip? Tell me when that's ready because today there's a firestorm and I said this last night with Dr. Ryan Cole, who I think so highly of and so many of the people in the anti vax movement does such a great job. You know, Bobby Kennedy. Okay, let's go and just play this clip and then I'm going to jump in here because we're going to have some guests maybe this afternoon, maybe tomorrow. You know, Natalie's going to take the five o' clock show today and she's going to, I think maybe have a guess or two on this. I'm going to have a couple of people, maybe even Dr. Steven Hatfield used to be on our show at the very beginning of pandemic to talk about the ban on mRNA. And let's play that. Let's play the clip from Cole and then I'll explain. Most promising technology out there. And here's my point. When you read this release, you go through and says, you know, the decisions, including cancellation, descoping of various contracts and solicitations, relate to MRNA vaccine development activities. And this is by the biomedical advanced research developments Barda. And the quote is from Bobby Kennedy. We reviewed the science, listened to the experts enacted. That's fine, but. And then you go through a whole bunch of actions shows the vaccines fail to protect effectively upper respiratory infections. Covid ba boom. All the actions are taking. Termination of this, cancellation of this descoping. That's all great, but the buried lead here is that you reviewed the science list of the experts enacted. Someone is going to have to come forward. You and other these great doctors are going to come forward and say, say, hey, this is the science we reviewed. This is the experts we talked to. This is the data. You got to show the receipts here. I'm sure that. I'm sure the companies out there that are publicly traded are going to come in with massive lawsuits or fights or you guys are a bunch of vaccine wingnuts. So my point is this is an opening salvo and I realize that these actions are being taken, but they're just not going to roll over. I mean, this gene therapy, there's so many people that banked on this and have proposed. Think about how they look like fools. Right? So my point is. Let me have camera jump in. Okay. And so the Biden mediate, they did a compilation of, like I said yesterday, we need the people at hhs, the scientists, people with doctors. Run. Not, not Bobby. He's great. He's the cabinet head and he put it out. But they put out assertions. We need to see the receipts. The receipts are overwhelming. There's 700 studies here. I got that. But you need to compile that a curated and have the group that made that advise him on the decision. And they need to come on, they need to come public and say, this is what we reviewed, this is what we looked at. This is why we're banning it. And because there is a little bit of a firestormer saying, well, show us the. Show us the beef in both, you know, in these People that are the pro Vax. Right. Of which we're not, we're pretty adamant. We didn't take the vax. Nobody on our staff took the vax. We were pretty adamant about this from the beginning. But they need to be aggressive, they need to be on offense. This is something that's got to be explained to the American people because a lot of the American people don't understand the details here. And like I said, you have all of the pharmaceutical industry, it's a great group of folks now that are running a campaign about having Big Pharma not be able to advertise on tv. If they did that, if we effectuated that, if we implemented that, MSNBC would be a test pattern. These people, particularly when they're getting spun off from NBC and they got to kind of make it on their own and I guess spun off from Comcast now more than ever. My point, we have the evidence, but you just can't put out assertions. And something like this is going to be so controversial. And at least this morning, I haven't checked since the show started, but this morning the Moderna stock overnight wasn't down. It was only down a percentage. I think when I started the show. The reason is the market thinks this is going to get reversed. Otherwise Moderna, Moderna could be a zero. My point, we need to get the best people at HHS that pull all this information together from all these different studies, compiled it, went through it, did their analysis and and then advised the Cabinet secretary, Bobby Kennedy Jr. On making really a historic and I think much needed decision. And we're going to have, we're going to have tomorrow Hatfield and I think some others are involved in it. But you know, I'd like to have the senior guy and do it. And then he's got to be everywhere he ought to be on cnn, msnbc, New York Times. Be aggressive. You've got something here that's fantastic. But it needs to be explained, explained to people and it needs to be explained with the receipts. We just can't make assertions about this. And yesterday's press release was fine, but there were a lot of assertions. Show the receipts. We have the evidence. We have the receipts. Let's show it short commercial break. Back in a moment. Hey, I realize you got many choices when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service and there are new ones popping up all the time. But here's the truth. There's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for. And that's the team at Patriot Mobile. 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Gillian, you've, you had this problem and you found a solution. And the solution is available to all the Warren posse. What do you got, ma'?
General Mike Flynn
Am?
D
Thank you, Steve. Yes, there is a solution. It's called donewithdebt.com it is a place I wish I knew about earlier. Unfortunately, before you know, divorce and job loss and disease got to me. But I'm on the other side. And the reason is these are master negotiators. They will go to every credit card banking institution and they will fight for you. They know what deals are already out there. They can sometimes get the debt wiped out completely. But what they do is work for you. These again are incredible people. They're strategists. They know what they're doing. They know that the credit system is not designed to work for, for you, but against you. And so without pushing you into bankruptcy or a massive conglomerate of loan, they are there to get you out of debt. But I always say, people say, well what, you know, what's the one thing they can do? And I always say don't pay another bill. Do not pay another bill. Before you go to donewithdeb.com they will absolutely put you on the right track. But do not pay.
General Mike Flynn
Well.
Steve Bannon
They can, here's what they can do. They can cap your payment and they can cap the interest off the interest. Because people, the credit card companies say hey look, we'll get some with these guys. We know they check these clients out we'll get some cash. I mean, it's a very practical thing. The thing they do, the big value added is they can. They can stop the machine from grinding you into the ground. But you got to act. If you don't act, and this is what happens. People get anxious about it and they think if they put it in the drawer, it's going to go away. It's not. It's like a cancer. It metastasizes. You have to engage professionals because the credit card companies will run you over and don't think. A lot of people, Jay, when I mentioned this, say, well, you just declare bankruptcy. That's not that you declare bankruptcy. That sticks with you for a long time. You're not going to be able to get an apartment, you're not going to get a car loan. Don't think that it just automatically. I'll just declare BK and stiff them. That'll stick with you forever, ma'.
D
Am, 100%. That'll stick with you for almost a decade. And if you've got kids, they want to go to university. There's so many factors that, that go into this. So the equation is simply this. Overnight, people say to me, how fast does this happen? Literally overnight, the mail stops, the nasty phone calls. At all hours of the day and night, they will go away. And then that's when the strategies get put into action. That's when you sit down with them and you go over everything. And because they are master negotiators, they are able to come up with incredible ideas and plans to get you back on a fiscally financial road to freedom. Because, as you mentioned, it's putting. It's not just about money, right? It's about mental. Because you're. You're now thinking about it all the time.
Steve Bannon
You're not present.
D
Anxiety kids, you're thinking about, oh, my gosh, the bills.
Steve Bannon
Where do they go? Where do they go? Right now we got a lot of anxious people that have this credit card debt, where they go right now and who they talk to.
D
Okay, so go to done with debt.com. you will have a free consultation. Look at the testimonies that are on there as well from the people that they have helped, people just like you. And that's why we want to get the word out that done with debt.com is available for every American to use.
Steve Bannon
Everybody get a. You get a free consultation. Gillian Barbary, you went through it. You know, the anxiety can go away. Thank you so much for being on here today. Stop being anxious about that. There is help and they'll give you a free, they'll give you a free consultation. Done with that. Calm. Talk to the professionals, get some guidance about. And just don't put the thing in the drawer. It's just Metastane. Doesn't go away by you not looking at it. Out of sight, out of mind. No, out of sight. It's the clock's ticking. Okay. Trevor Comstock, A home run on tallow. People are just raving about it. I know that you've got more production coming. Talk to me about that. And also beef livers, all these other great products you guys have, sir. And where people go to get them.
General Mike Flynn
Yeah.
E
Great to see you, Steve. So, yeah, just a quick update on our new Tallow moisturizer. It does keep selling out and has quickly become one of our most popular products. But our team is working overtime. We have all hands on deck. So that way we fortunately do not have to list it as out of stock on our website. So we're still rocking and rolling. I'm happy to report that. And of course we really appreciate your support. But today I just wanted to highlight our flagship product, which is our grass fed beef liver. And I know many people still aren't familiar with the benefits of beef liver. Well, they don't know just how powerful beef liver is when it comes to nutrition, but it's oftentimes called nature's multivitamin and for a pretty good reason. And that's mainly because it's one of the most powerful superfoods on the planet and packed with highly bioavailable nutrients like iron, zinc, vitamin A, B12, CoQ10, folate. The list kind of goes on and on. But these are all essential for things like healthy skin, immune support, heart as well as brain function. But also on top of that, it contains other critical vitamins and minerals that most people are deficient in. So things like choline, K2, selenium, as well as copper. And then lastly, of course, one of the biggest things people tend to notice is just the natural energy boost they get after taking it. It's kind of cool to see, but on a daily basis we get flooded with reviews and emails of people just reporting back how much more energy they have and how amazing they feel. So that's always a bonus and why I think people love the product so much. But then I just wanted to note too, what makes this product really stand out is that because it is a whole food supplement, your body can easily recognize and absorb these nutrients and then retain them as opposed to, you know, if you're taking like a synthetic multivitamin, for example. Oftentimes your body is just flushing out a lot of those nutrients because it's not natural. So right off the bat, where do they go?
Steve Bannon
Where do they go? I wanted to see all the endorsements from this audience. Where do people go, sir? To order and to see the endorsements. How this audience loves these products.
E
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Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room - Episode 4687: Breaking The Law Of Two Tiers Of Justice
Release Date: August 6, 2025
Host: WarRoom.org (Stephen K. Bannon)
Guests: Alex Marlow, General Mike Flynn
In Episode 4687 of Bannon’s War Room, hosted by Stephen K. Bannon, the discussion centers around the critical issue of the dual justice system in the United States and its implications on national integrity. The episode intertwines domestic accountability with pressing international concerns, marking the 80th commemoration of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima as a backdrop to broader geopolitical dialogues.
Alex Marlow initiates the conversation by highlighting a fundamental flaw within the American justice system: the existence of "two tiers of justice." He asserts, "There are two tiers of justice in this country and the public is not going to go with that" (02:22). Marlow elaborates that high-profile individuals like Hillary Clinton, James Comey, and Brennan Clapper escape accountability through media deals and public relays, creating a sense of injustice among the populace.
General Mike Flynn underscores this by emphasizing the need for accountability to restore trust: "If we don't hold people accountable, the American people are not going to trust us" (02:22). This duality fosters public distrust and hinders the restoration of law and order, a sentiment Marlow reinforces as essential for gaining the confidence of new coalition members and previously disengaged voters.
When prompted about his book, Alex Marlow explains its accessibility and engaging nature, stating, "I'm trying to translate very complicated information to a readable, digestible" (03:57). He emphasizes the importance of grassroots engagement, urging listeners to remain vigilant and proactive beyond electoral cycles: "The responsibility to save this Republic is a 24, 7, 365 battle" (05:10).
Marlow calls upon the audience to take action by demanding accountability and participating continuously in the political process. He highlights the necessity of maintaining momentum to prevent adversaries from gaining ground, asserting that sustained grassroots efforts are pivotal for long-term success.
As the episode marks the 80th anniversary of Hiroshima, General Mike Flynn draws parallels between historical and contemporary global conflicts. He reflects on the necessity of decisive actions to end wars, referencing the atomic bombing's historical context: "Had we not done that, there was already estimates of casualties killed" (08:42).
Flynn articulates his "Rules for Diplomacy," advocating for trust and transparency among nuclear-armed nations—primarily the United States, Russia, and China. He warns against conflating Russia with China in economic discussions, particularly concerning the BRICS nations, and stresses the importance of strategic compromise to prevent escalation into nuclear confrontation.
Steve Bannon introduces the topic of the BRICS summit in Rio de Janeiro, emphasizing the bloc's objective to displace the U.S. dollar as the global currency. He states, "As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US Dollars will decrease" (16:26). The discussion underscores the potential financial turbulence resulting from shifts in global economic structures, highlighting the threat to the dollar's dominance and the broader implications for American financial security.
The dialogue shifts to the internal turmoil within Israel, particularly concerning the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and political instability. General Flynn expresses concern over reports of mutiny and internal conflict, stating, "there are testimony or documents that certain elements of the Israeli military were told to stand down" (32:19). He draws historical parallels to past U.S. military occupations, cautioning against overextension and emphasizing the need for strategic restraint to avoid entanglement in prolonged conflicts.
Steve Bannon probes further into the implications of these internal struggles, questioning the feasibility and wisdom of deploying American troops to occupy Gaza. This line of inquiry highlights fears of repeating past military missteps and the potential for escalating hostilities in an already volatile region.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to addressing the "deep state" and its influence within the U.S. government. Steve Bannon asserts the necessity of "crushing the deep state internally" to prevent adversaries from undermining democratic institutions: "We either take it out now or they're going to run the country" (35:24).
General Flynn concurs, elaborating on the pervasive subversion and espionage directed against the United States. He emphasizes the role of former administrations, particularly under Obama, in fostering these internal threats: "Obama is really at the heart of this thing and this is very real" (36:53). Flynn calls for President Trump to leverage his authority to dismantle these entrenched networks, ensuring national security and the preservation of constitutional integrity.
The episode concludes with a consensus on the urgency of addressing both internal and external threats to the United States. General Flynn reinforces the need for President Trump to actively engage in high-stakes negotiations and to marshal all resources to combat the deep state and external adversaries. The call to action emphasizes sustained vigilance, grassroots mobilization, and unwavering commitment to accountability as foundational pillars for safeguarding the nation's future.
Steve Bannon reiterates these themes, underscoring the critical juncture at which the country stands and the imperative to act decisively to prevent the erosion of democratic values and national sovereignty.
Steve Bannon [00:01]: "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people."
Alex Marlow [02:22]: "There are two tiers of justice in this country and the public is not going to go with that."
Alex Marlow [03:57]: "If we don't get all the perp locks and all the handcuffs that we need and that we deserve and justice is fully served..."
General Mike Flynn [08:42]: "This is about trust, transparency between great, great nations..."
Steve Bannon [35:24]: "We either take it out now or they're going to run the country."
General Mike Flynn [36:53]: "Obama is really at the heart of this thing and this is very real."
Transcript Reference: The timestamps mentioned correspond to the sections within the provided transcript, facilitating listeners to locate specific discussions if needed.
This episode of Bannon’s War Room offers a comprehensive examination of the intertwined challenges facing the United States, from internal justice disparities to complex international relations. Through incisive dialogue with influential figures like Alex Marlow and General Mike Flynn, the discussion underscores the urgency of accountability, strategic diplomacy, and unyielding resistance against internal subversion to secure a stable and just future for the nation.