Episode 4694: Stopping The Steal In 2026; Texas Throws Down On Dems Who Fled Texas

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room
Episode 4694: Stopping The Steal In 2026; Texas Throws Down On Dems Who Fled Texas
Release Date: August 9, 2025

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Introduction and Overview

In Episode 4694 of Bannon's War Room, hosted by Natalie Winters, the program delves into the ongoing political struggles within Texas, the broader implications for American democracy, and the alleged deep-state efforts to undermine President Trump's administration. The episode highlights key figures such as Steve Bannon, Mike Benz, Julie Kelly, and Brian Harrison, discussing strategies to counteract what they describe as autocratic maneuvers by Democratic operatives.

Exposing the Democracy Playbook

Natalie Winters commences the episode by referencing an interview with Norm Eisen, emphasizing the "largest lie" propagated against President Trump—that he is an autocrat. She underscores the War Room's long-standing efforts to combat deep-state agitators since the inception of Trump's presidency.

Quote:
"We've always said that they've used sort of these color revolution tactics... to perpetrate probably the largest lie, the actual big lie, misinformation against the American people, which is that President Trump is an autocrat."
— Natalie Winters [00:54]

Mike Benz on Combating Autocracy

Mike Benz, representing the State Democracy Defenders Fund, provides a comprehensive overview of their strategies to thwart autocratic advancements. He details the organization's origins post-January 6th insurrection, combining expertise from successful coup fighters and international autocracy experts to build a robust defense against democratic backsliding.

Key Points:

• Litigation: Serving as the first guardrail, Benz highlights over 150 legal cases where their efforts have successfully defended democratic processes.
• Political Leadership: Engaging elected officials, primarily state-level Attorneys General, to advocate and legislate in support of democratic integrity.
• Public Mobilization: Encouraging increased public protests, noting a rise from 2021 to 2025 in demonstration activities.

Quote:
"There’s twice as many protests in 2025 as there were in 2021... 2021 was covered as the era of big protest against Donald Trump. There’s actually been more in 2025."
— Mike Benz [03:28]

Norm Eisen's Admission and Its Implications

Natalie Winters references Norm Eisen’s admissions in a PBS interview, categorizing his actions as orchestrating a coup through the Democracy Playbook. She warns of the bipartisan tools used to destabilize democratic institutions and frame Trump's administration as autocratic.

Quote:
"He essentially admitted to Everything that we have accused him of. I would put this in the category of things that here in the war room, we don’t want to be vindicated on."
— Natalie Winters [07:01]

Stephen K. Bannon on Institutional Corruption

Stephen K. Bannon provides an in-depth analysis of the Democracy Playbook, authored by Norm Eisen, outlining seven pillars aimed at controlling elections, courts, media, and public discourse to maintain autocratic control. Bannon emphasizes the symbiotic relationship between state agencies like USAID and corrupt Democratic networks to manipulate public opinion and suppress dissent.

Key Points:

• Controlling Disinformation: Strategies to censor and regulate media in collaboration with international partners.
• Strategic Non-Cooperation: Coordinated efforts to engage in illegal protest activities that undermine governmental functions.
• Federal Overreach: Critique of the Department of Homeland Security’s designation of elections as critical infrastructure, arguing it centralizes federal control over historically state-managed processes.

Quote:
"There are seven pillars that Norm Eisen describes in the 2025 playbook... controlling elections, controlling the courts, fighting corruption, basically painting Trump as an autocrat."
— Stephen K. Bannon [08:06]

Texas Legislative Crisis

Brian Harrison, a key figure in Texas politics, discusses the legislative impasse where Democratic legislators have fled Texas to prevent quorum, effectively sabotaging the legislative process. He criticizes Republican leadership for their inaction in pursuing meaningful consequences for the absentee lawmakers.

Key Points:

• Quorum Break: Democratic legislators leaving the state to block legislative sessions, delaying essential political actions.
• Leadership Failures: Republican leaders not taking substantial measures to reclaim control or penalize absent Democrats.
• Future Implications: Potential redistricting battles that could determine the balance of power in the U.S. Congress, directly affecting President Trump's remaining term.

Quote:
"We’re sick and tired of weak establishment Republicans not fighting as hard for the future of our country as the radical extremist Democrats."
— Brian Harrison [27:41]

DOJ Grand Jury Investigations

The episode transitions to Julie Kelly, who analyzes the recent grand jury investigations targeting Democratic figures such as Letitia James and Adam Schiff. Kelly argues that these investigations are part of a broader strategy to prosecute and undermine Democratic leadership, drawing parallels to the earlier "Russiagate" probe.

Key Points:

• Jurisdiction Issues: Criticism of the DOJ's pursuit of cases outside the D.C. courthouse to avoid perceived biases.
• Politicization of the Judiciary: Accusations that judges, like Jeb Bosberg, abuse their power to further partisan agendas.
• Strategic Litigation: Comparison of current DOJ tactics to those used during the Trump investigations, framing them as part of a continuous effort to destabilize opposition.

Quote:
"It's not the same thing as First Amendment protected protests... This is effectively a form of domestic terrorism to shut down highways and shut down trade."
— Mike Benz [14:34]

Mike Lindell’s Perspective

Mike Lindell, known for his advocacy supporting Trump, discusses recent legal victories related to MyPillow and emphasizes the importance of maintaining economic resilience through products like solar generators. He also promotes upcoming events and sales, aligning consumer preparedness with the broader themes of national security and resilience against perceived governmental overreach.

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"We have a fragile power grid. It just cannot keep up with that demand."
— Steve Bannon [16:27]

Closing Remarks and Future Outlook

Natalie Winters concludes the episode by urging listeners to stay vigilant and proactive in supporting Republican leadership and resisting Democratic strategies aimed at undermining democratic institutions. She emphasizes the importance of grassroots activism and continuous pressure on elected officials to uphold constitutional values.

Quote:
"We wouldn't see any movement. We wouldn’t even be close at all if it weren’t for you guys. So keep the pressure up."
— Natalie Winters [27:46]

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Conclusion

Episode 4694 of Bannon's War Room presents a fervent critique of Democratic strategies to control and manipulate American political and social structures. Through detailed discussions and strategic insights from key figures like Mike Benz and Stephen K. Bannon, the episode underscores the ongoing battle against what the hosts perceive as autocratic attempts to destabilize the Trump administration and the broader democratic framework. The focus on Texas as a microcosm of national political struggles highlights the high stakes involved, urging listeners to remain engaged and resilient in their efforts to "save the country."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• "We've always said that they've used sort of these color revolution tactics... to perpetrate probably the largest lie, the actual big lie, misinformation against the American people, which is that President Trump is an autocrat."
  — Natalie Winters [00:54]

• "There’s twice as many protests in 2025 as there were in 2021... 2021 was covered as the era of big protest against Donald Trump. There’s actually been more in 2025."
  — Mike Benz [03:28]

• "He essentially admitted to Everything that we have accused him of. I would put this in the category of things that here in the war room, we don’t want to be vindicated on."
  — Natalie Winters [07:01]

• "There are seven pillars that Norm Eisen describes in the 2025 playbook... controlling elections, controlling the courts, fighting corruption, basically painting Trump as an autocrat."
  — Stephen K. Bannon [08:06]

• "We’re sick and tired of weak establishment Republicans not fighting as hard for the future of our country as the radical extremist Democrats."
  — Brian Harrison [27:41]

• "It's not the same thing as First Amendment protected protests... This is effectively a form of domestic terrorism to shut down highways and shut down trade."
  — Mike Benz [14:34]

• "We wouldn't see any movement. We wouldn’t even be close at all if it weren’t for you guys. So keep the pressure up."
  — Natalie Winters [27:46]

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Disclaimer: This summary reflects the views and discussions presented in Episode 4694 of Bannon's War Room and does not endorse or critique the content discussed by the hosts and guests.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians, I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Mike Benz]

And where do people like that go.

[Steve Bannon]

To share the big lie?

[Mike Benz]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[Steve Bannon]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

[Natalie Winters]

If that answer is to save my.

[Steve Bannon]

Country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Natalie Winters]

You're in the War room. It's Friday, August 8th in the year of our Lord 2025. It's Natalie Winters hosting today's 5pm edition of War Room. President Trump just wrapped up speaking. So you got a full hour and then of course the second hour too of programming here in the War Room. We're going to have Mike Benz, Julie Kelly and Brian Harrison to give us the latest updates on, frankly, everything that's going on. But as we hit the 200 day mark of President Trump's, I guess, second administration, maybe third, as Steve has been hammering, I want to play a clip. You guys know, here in the War Room, we have been hammering since I think not just day one of President Trump's second term, but really from the election time and frankly, even the first day of his first term, because all of the deep state agitators who have tried to suppress and nullify and neuter what is the Trump movement which became the Trump presidency, which became the second Trump presidency. We've always said that they've used sort of these color revolution tactics, using these playbooks that they used abroad in countries like Hungary and Poland to really buttress or I think strengthen the idea of civil society and mass protest. We would say paid protests. They would say it's spontaneous and organic. We reject that premise. But how they use that to, I think perpetrate probably the largest lie, the actual big lie, misinformation against the American people, which is that President Trump is an autocrat and that our movement is part of an autocracy, or they call it democratic backsliding, but all of that to essentially make it the lock that picks the key so they can unfold, right, these foreign playbooks that they've used to sort of subvert foreign leaders that they didn't like. Because I think as you guys are probably aware President Trump is probably a lot more disliked than these people who didn't like whether it was stuff that was going on in Latin America, Eastern Europe, take your pick. You know, nor Mizen is someone that we've always singled out and truly, I think, a shocking interview. He sat down with PBS about two weeks ago and he essentially admitted to everything that we have accused him of. I would put this in the category of things that here in the war room, we don't want to be vindicated on. But it's important that you see these people talk about the coup, the treasonous coup. I will use that word. Yes. Media matters in their own words. I'm going to play the clip. I don't know if we'll go through it in full. It's fairly long. But I might jump in because we're going to have Mike Benz join us to sort of break down and take, I would say, the victory lap that we never wanted to have to take. Because like I said, I don't ever want to be right about the ulterior and nefarious ambitions of deep staters like Normizen. But Denver, let's roll the clip.

[Mike Benz]

My organization, the State Democracy Defenders Fund, we were born out of the success in stopping the attempted coup of 2020. And I kind of got the people who I admired the most. I worked representing multiple parties, fighting in court, but also in the court of public opinion. In that unsuccessful effort to reverse the legitimate outcome of the 2020 election. I got the best people together who I thought were the toughest, the smartest, and who won a lot in 2020. And we added in building our organization. We started this immediately after this work started on January 7th. This new work, 2021, right after the coup failed, when the violent insurrection that Trump inspired on January 6th was defeated, I started combining the most successful coup fighters that I came across in my work in 2020 with experts who had helped study or defeat autocracy internationally. So we went to places over the intervening years like Hungary and Turkey, where the effort to oust an autocrat failed. Why did it fail? What did they fail to do? But we also looked at places like Poland, Brazil, Czech Republic, the country where I served as ambassador, where there were successful ousters in recent years of autocratic regimes. And we came together over that four year period with a plan to defeat autocracy. It's not just litigation. Litigation is very important in our peaceful, lawful, vigorous effort. Think of litigation, the courts, as the first guardrail. Donald Trump has been loudly banging into that guardrail in this over 150 cases where we and others have had so many wins, because we've been winning, that guardrail is holding, but that loud banging is waking up two other barriers that lie. Two other guardrails that lie on the other side of litigation. The next one is political leadership, where we've seen in the United States that elected officials, mostly at the state levels, like the state AGs, they've been going to court, but they've been talking, holding town halls, speaking to the American people. Now Congress is starting to get in the act. So that's a second layer of protection, the third and maybe the most important. And this is the difference. This is why autocracy was defeated in Poland and why it is still there down the block in Hungary. The people, when you awaken the American people, which that loud banging in the first guard rail has done. Do you know that there's twice as many protests in 2025 as there were in 2021? 2021 was covered as the era of big protest against Donald Trump. There's actually been more in 2025.

[Natalie Winters]

Yeah, twice as many protests. I think you left out the part where twice as many paid protests, though. We know with Norm Eisen, he's always very particular with his word choice, but pretty damning interview. I suggest that you guys go and watch the whole, I think it's about an hour and a half. But just remember, he's essentially admitting to, I would argue, a coup. He talks about the four years of Joe Biden, the time before, and certainly right now, the time after. That's what he gets into. And Remember, it was January 6th of 2025 where the Brookings Institution, under his leadership, co authored the third edition of the Democracy Playbook, where they essentially transposed, translated all of these regime change tactics to fit what they call Autocrat Trump. Wild stuff. Mike Benz, my head is blowing up. I sent this to Steve. He's like, we got to do a two hour special on this. And of course, get Mike Benz. I'm curious your sort of reactions to Norm Eisen admitting that in an interview probably should be like evidence somewhere for some case.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, it might end up being one day in the not too distant future. We are, we're in a period of incredible transformative change right now within the United States of the structures that Norm Eisen has depended on for power and to project as the sort of quarterback of this blob, the various instruments of blob power, from the courts to the streets, with the protests to the bureaucracy, to the funding mechanism of the US Budget. And I do want to read a passage actually from that Democracy Playbook. I'm proud to say that I think I was the first person to ever publish about the Democracy Playbook of norm Eisen in 2019 when he was just coming onto the radar of this I published in Revolver together with Darren Beatty, kind of the definitive Norm Eisen piece, which ended up blowing up and I think putting much of this on the map. But this playbook is a very instructive annually updated tool that's kind of a consensus building tool out of the Brookings Institution, which is known as the top ranked think tank in the United States. It's not really a think tank at all. It is a blob consensus building mechanism with very strange links to the US intelligence apparatus. I should note the CIA in the 1980s would send people to CIA agents to Brookings for training. The CIA has a intelligence and governance. I'm sorry, the Brookings has an intelligence and governance section. Norm Eisen himself was a State Department ambassador. The ambassadors play the coordinating role in the region with statecraft and intelligence. And I want to note that There are the seven pillars that Norm Eisen describes in the 2025 playbook are controlling elections, controlling the courts, fighting corruption, basically painting Trump as an autocrat reinforcing civic and media space. That means a full court press on NGOs and so called civil society organizations in control over the media. But pillar six is very interesting because it's called controlling disinformation. And I want to read a passage from this section. He sort of bemoans the existence of the First Amendment in saying that federal action may be uncertain as Trump controls the executive branch, but that at the state level state governments should try to pursue censorship policies. Of course we saw this with the state of California pass trying to pass laws to go after x enforce law, all sorts of transparency and accountability requirements on social media companies. We saw the same thing done in Michigan. But what they note, what Normizen notes, is that states may find partners in allied regulators over social media such as the EU and Brazil. So this is Norm Eisen, as you heard in this clip, noting that he recruited people for his new blob shop from folks who overturned basically regimes that he called autocratic, which of course he has to. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. All these people get paid to fight autocracy abroad through the State Department, usaid, the US Institute of Peace, the Department of Defense, civil military. But the fact that Norm Eisen is telling states to go and work with the absolutely crooked, abjectly tyrannical censor state of Brazil to try to find allies between Democrat Party censorship activists in the United States and a foreign government which is putting tens of thousands of people in prison, which has banned by judicial edict President Bolsonaro from having a social media account, from. From having his inner. From participating in public interviews, from having those interviews shared on social media. That is who Norm Eisen and the Democrat Party are looking to as allies to commonly fight social media free speech. It's absolutely insane. But what I, what I want to note here is we're at a time of change and we are seeing declassifications now happening at breakneck pace. We saw the JFK files mass declassified. We saw the Martin Luther King files declassified. We saw the Crossfire Hurricane documents declassified. We saw the classified annex involving George Soros and Leonard Bernardo, who also, as you posted this clip, Natalie, if you recall Leonard Bernardo, the clip that you posted, what was he myopically obsessed with? Stopping misinformation and disinformation. And how can we take on social media freedom? But the fact is, is you have, you. You have these internal documents at the State Department, in USAID and the US Institute of Peace. And it is my hope, my dream that we get U.S. aid files, we get State Department democracy rights and labor files. That's the group that Norm Eisen's crew works with within the State Department. This democracy money spigot, labor, involves the getting mass street muscle. What I found this week, which I went over with in a private lecture, but I'll be posting later this week, are incredible riot training documents from the US federal government to NGOs to help them organize the kind of street protests that Norm Eisen depends on in order to project political power artificially into a system where his own side has been outvoted. The US Institute of Peace, for example, which Darren Beatty has just become became the new acting president of, has entire courses instructing NGOs how to start rent A riots, how to shut down highways and block traffic. And it's one thing when you have First Amendment protected freedom of assembly. Obviously, the right to protest is sacrosanct in this country, but what you have.

[Natalie Winters]

Out of normal, Mike, I'm gonna do what the audience is gonna get really mad at me for. We're coming up against a break. It's not up to me, but I'm gonna hold you through because I wanna expand on that and how this also comes back to declaring elections as Critical infrastructure war and Posse. Make sure you're checking out birchgold.com bannon or texting bannon29898 Trust the financial experts. Give Philip Patrick and the team a call. We'll be right back.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Natalie Winters]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Julie Kelly]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Mike Benz]

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[Natalie Winters]

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[Julie Kelly]

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[Natalie Winters]

You're back in the war room where of course you also got to be checking out my Patriotsupply.com Bannon where you can buy. They have a great deal. I'm looking at my phone right now. Three month emergency food kit and you can get a free four week kit. If we're going to be up against people like Norm Eisen or the World Economic Forum, which I think is ranking the top long term disaster to be afraid of as a crisis level, natural disasters maybe. That sounds like something good to check out. That's My Patriot supply. Mike, I just want to add too, I mean, I think the crux of what you're saying is essentially, you know, the people that we are going up against, it's actually sort of, you know, the system, right. They present themselves as. They're the ones engaging in outside the system change, but they're the blob, the de state, take your pick. But I think it's also interesting, throughout that Democracy Playbook document, USAID is mentioned, I think, what is it, like a dozen times? And I remember that they actually make the key point, which is that USAID was so essential not just for the censorship. I even think we saw that in the declassified. I think it was also by Dni Tulsi, but Biden's censorship plan. But that sort of on the counterpoint or the foil to that, was that usaid, as Norm sort of wrote, was going to be a key component of the proactive media coverage to sort of depict President Trump as an autocrat, which frankly, I think explains a lot of the apoplexy over the dismantling of USAID in the early days of the Trump administration. Because that was going to kind of be ground zero, right, for the, for the resistance. You can pick up where, where you left off. But last point, because I like to just give you the time so the audience doesn't get mad at me. But talking about how they've also declared elections critical infrastructure. Obviously Norm has played a key role in a lot of the election litigation. But even in the Democracy Playbook, there's a bizarre section where they talk about wanting to bring in international election observers somehow affiliated with the EU into the United States to like, endorse weird standards of transparency and openness and equality and all these sort of nebulous terms that I think you and I in the audience know all too well are frequently misappropriated to just be basically usher in censorship or just, you know, Democrat wins. But I'm curious, your kind of broader analysis.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yes, 37 times, the Democracy Playbook 2025 by Norm Eisen, references USAID 37 times and includes the power of USAID to fund media allies for the blob. They cite USAID's role in supporting groups like the Corruption Reporting Project in Ukraine, which ended up indirectly kicking off the 2019 Trump impeachment by trying to dig up dirt on Rudy Giuliani, using US taxpayer funds to do so, and then using that as part of the basis for the Trump impeachment. USAID has been the normizen playground. It's been The Normizen slush fund to run money to media organizations, to street protesters, to bribe governments in order to control the prosecutors. We saw for example the billion dollar USAID loan guarantee which was weaponized by Vice President Joe Biden to remove Viktor Shokin who was investigating Burisma. And it's no surprise that Norm Eisen was representing the federal employees trying to stop the shutdown of USAID through the AFL CIO lawsuit against against the Trump administration. Norm Eisen also led the cabal with the lawsuits against shutting down the State Department's Global Engagement Center. This is a State Department USAID NATO network. And this is why you see the references to the EU all over this as well. The EU has, has the biggest censorship tool in, in human existence at its fingers now as just July 1, just over a month ago, their code of practice on disinformation became mandatory. And the goal of it is to control the speech within America by forcing companies to either censor speech in America that the EU says or lose 550 million customers of those social media companies in the EU. Norm Eisen knows about this leverage. He was an integral part in the creation of these regulatory tools. He's had his eye on it for eight years now at this point and works very closely with these same networks. On the point about the critical infrastructure, this was a legacy of Russiagate on January 6, 2017, which was the real January 6, when something that actually changed and undermined a government was done. That was the day that the intelligence community assessment giving the intelligence community imprimatur to saying that Russia hacked our elections and Russia stole the 2016 election. Just an hour after that came out, the Department of Homeland Security under Barack Obama designated elections. The metaphysical concept of elections as critical infrastructure, giving the US federal government jurisdiction over elections which it had not had in two and a half centuries. Elections were always controlled by the state governments. All 50 states, both Democrats and Republicans, all 50 state Secretary of State opposed outgoing DHS Secretary Jed Johnson's designation of elections as critical infrastructure, giving DHS the power to essentially control and administer the voting machines used in all 50 states as well as a variety of other election processes. Why do we still have elections designated as critical infrastructure when we know this only happened because of the lie that Russia stole the 2016 election? And so we need a federal government to defend against this is phantom Russia threat. This was something all 50 states opposed. The only reason that the states ended up coming on board with it was for two reasons. You had the first DHS Secretary Trump ended up firing Six different DHS secretaries during the first four years of his first term. But the initial DHS secretary ratified it before he became the White House Chief of Staff. And they paid the states to go along with it. They opened up a giant multi hundred million dollar slush fund to pay the state Secretary of State offices if they worked with the Department of Homeland Security and essentially got rid of their objection. So we, we pay a federal government office to maintain to usurp the control of elections held by states, and then we pay for another federal government slush fund to bribe the states to go along with it. We're talking now about getting rid of waste, fraud and abuse. This is state sanctioned waste, fraud and abuse. It has to be undone immediately. The last thing that I'll say is that we were talking before the break about the need for USAID files and State Department files and US Institute of Peace files on the connective tissue between the illegal conspiracies carried out by Norm Eisen's group when they engage in illegal protest activity. Now, legal protest activity is obviously protected on the First Amendment, but when you see things like what happened in Minneapolis in 2020 and across the country in the summer of 2020, or you see what was done in Los Angeles with the ICE riots, there is a concept promoted by the same State Department, usaid, US Institute of Peace networks that Norm Eisen works with called Strategic non cooperation. And by that they mean non cooperation with the state. And by that, they, through that concept, they engage in illegal activities such as the shutting down of critical infrastructure, the shutting down of critical highway and transport lanes in order to bring a government to its knees. This is not the same thing as First Amendment protected protests where you're simply marching on public property with signs. This is, this is effectively a form of domestic terrorism to shut down highways and shut down trade so that people, mothers pregnant in their cars, can't get to a hospital, so that people can't get to work. This is an organized conspiracy when it's planned ahead of time. And you'll see Norm Eisen's fascination with declaring every protest spontaneous is specifically because he knows where his own weaknesses are. To the extent that these protests, the illegal aspect of them, the violence, the provocation with police, the shutdown of highways, I believe these need to be prosecuted criminally. And every government document in the federal government's possession about the coordination and organization of illegal shutdowns of American cities has to now be made public. I believe there needs to be a interagency transparency team. It can be led by The White House National Security Council. It should have representatives from investigators at the State Department, from the legacy USAID function, from the US Institute of Peace, from the the Pentagon civil military branch. And it should have a committed focus on disclosing all of the names, all of the manuals, all of the white papers, all the emails, all the text messages, all the third party contractors that have been used to support this rogue criminal network for the past 10 years. I think that will go a long way towards restoring international trust in American diplomatic organs and it will be something that can be used as a reference guide for the entire American citizenry 100 years from now to understand how their own government works with these outside blob organizations like Norm Eisenschop in order to control the streets and bring a country to its knees.

[Natalie Winters]

200 days down. It sounds like we got some nice marching orders for the outstanding. What? Three years and 165 days. Mike Benz, we gotta drop you. We got other news to get to though. I think you and I could probably talk for hours. Where can people go to follow you and stay up to date with everything you're working on?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Follow me on X at Mike Ben Cyber. I'm also on Rumble and YouTube.

[Natalie Winters]

37 mentions. I like how you knew that off the top of your head. With regard to usaid, we'll be joined next by Brian Harrison, but Warren Posse. In the meantime, make sure you're checking out birchgold.com bannon or texting Bannon to 989898. You can get the latest installment, the first free copy of the ultimate guide for gold in the Trump era. And while you're at it, home title lock. That's hometitle lock.com promo code. Steve, check out the million dollar triple lock protection. 14 day free trial. Who knows, maybe Norizon's going to come for you. We'll be right back. Brian Harrison, after this short break.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Natalie Winters]

Welcome back to the War Room. I think Mike Benz makes the key point that what you're witnessing, it's a not defending democracy, it's not pro democracy protests. It's about regime change. And the word domestic terrorism I don't think is used lightly. And frankly, there's no conspiracies, no coincidences, as y' all know. But I believe up at the Harvard ASH center, which is sizably funded by State Department, usaid, I guess, maybe no longer after the Trump administration, but the director of that, which was the group that was coordinating with a lot of Democratic lawmakers to train a lot of these, you know, anti Trump shock troops. Well, the director of it, her background, her experience, if you read her resume, it reads more like a rap sheet than anything contained to the ivory tower of academia. Her expert was in terrorism. Her expertise rather was in terrorism. And she was like okay with civil disobedience, but only because she thought it was marginally more effective from an optics perspective. But she knows how to carry out regime change and use terrorism to achieve her violent goals. I'm quoting her resume on that front. Also, speaking of it, you got to check out her news story I just posted. You can go to NatalieJewishSubstack.com to read it. About how, believe it or not, your tax dollars are funding a lot of these ICE hotlines, these groups that are trying to sabotage President Trump's deportation raids by doxing ICE agents and providing legal defense to criminal illegal aliens. Your own tax dollars, your own government. I don't know how this stuff is still going on. Make sure you go and read that. But I bring up the hypocrisy of Democrats defending democracy and caring so much about it because I think just from an objective standpoint, what's going on in Texas though, why you would flee to Illinois and I guess now California, probably two more gerrymandered states allegedly then Texas is beyond me. But I guess if you know the legacy media is going to run cover for you then you can get away with doing anything and posting cringe selfies while you're at it. That is unless you have an AG like Ken Paxton, the wonderful Ken Paxton who has just filed I believe with the Supreme Court to declare those 13 Democrat House seats vacant. Quote the rogue Democrat legislators who fled the state have abandoned their duties leaving their seats vacant. These cowards deliberately sabotage the constitutional process and violated the oath they swore to uphold. I've asked the Texas Supreme Court to declare what has been clear from the beginning that the runaway members have officially vacated their offices in the Texas House. I also think Beto o' Rourke is facing some, some bribery accusations turn into legal charges. Brian Harrison who has been a real fighter throughout what feels like this years long battle over five districts in Texas joins us now. Brian, can you bring us up to speed?

Happy to do it Natalie. And the posse, you guys have been in the fight since before there was a fight when the Austin Ryan know uniparty establishment was up to its usual tricks of like okay Republicans and okay President Trump. We'll we'll call put redistricting on the agenda and we may or may not get to it. Those pesky. Yeah. No no no no. The posse has been onto their games and the pressure has you know has having an effect. Believe me the leadership in the Texas government feels the posse they know they're looking over your shoulder. Here's the update. It's not, not real good. We just got off the floor. This is officially day five of the quorum break although the posse is aware it's really day nine because our liberal rhino speaker who was elected by the Democrats owes the Democrats his position and is the guy who released the Democrats to get a head start on their quorum break is choosing to continue not punishing the Democrats at all. Today we got a lot more talk and no action. We got a lot of fake and I gotta really drive this point home. There's a lot of gaslighting coming out of the elected leadership in Texas making they want to look like they're taking action but in the reality is leadership of the Texas House is doing absolutely nothing to punish these Democrats. The two biggest air quote punishments okay that they're meting out is nothing serious. We're not taking their chairmanships away, we're not taking their seniority away. We're not pulling Them off their committees, the things that would hurt them. No, no, the two, quote, unquote punishments are get ready for it. They're going to stop letting them do their newsletters that they send out once a year. And their payment, their salary, they're going to be paid in full, but it might be on a printed check as opposed to a direct deposit. And no, I'm not. That sounds like a joke, but I'm not making it up. Those are the biggest punishments that have been announced so far from the UNO party rhinos down here that control the Texas House. I was glad to see Ken Paxton file that lawsuit, but of course. And so he's doing what he can, but that's, you know, a legal battle. So that could be protracted. And in the course, the reality is the political. This isn't as much of a legal question as it is a political question. The Democrats are playing hardball because they understand the stakes. It's the future. And it's not even hyperbole to say this. The posse knows it. It's the future of our country's on the line. As goes Texas, so goes the nation. As goes the nation, so goes the world. And what we're doing with here, with this redistricting, it might literally control whether the United States Congress falls into the hands of Hakeem Jeffries and AOC and Nancy Pelosi and derails President Trump's final two years in office or not. So the stakes couldn't be higher. But people need to keep up the pressure, Governor, lieutenant Governor, speaker, that we're tired of action. We're tired of rhetoric. I mean, five days ago, the governor said that he was going to vacate these Democrats out of their seats. But, I mean, nothing has actually happened. There's been no vacates, there's been no arrests. Okay. The governor hasn't even promised to veto the bills of these rogue Democrats. The speaker has not promised to kill the bills of these rogue Democrats. We need to be playing, you know, Natalie, you know this. The posse knows this. I'm sick and tired of weak establishment Republicans not fighting as hard for the future of our country as the radical extremist Democrats. And Texas should be leading the fight. We should be leading the charge, and it's just not happening. Today was more rhetoric, more hot air, no action.

Brian Harrison, I hope we get to have you on one day where we can actually celebrate something that Republican leadership has done downtown. I'm not going to hold my breath. Luckily, we have people like you who are fighting it. How can the posse help you make the calls? What. Where do we stand with sort of those. Those marching orders?

Yeah, so. So keep the calls coming in. I'll get the. The phone numbers. Y' all been putting the phone numbers up a lot when I'm on. Yeah, those are the numbers you got right there. Make sure they know you're watching them and that they have the number one, they could have stopped this from happening if they'd wanted to. But number two, they've got all the power, they have all the tools to stop this quorum break dead in its tracks. We right now, they need to be asked, why are you not using every tool available to bring them home? And then if they want to follow the updates, I post updates almost non stop at this point. I've got the most hated Twitter feed in the capital in the state of Texas. I can assure you of that. It's at Brian E. Harrison on X. At Brian E. Harrison. At Brian Harrison. Go follow like share. Because if you're just getting your news about what's going on in Texas from the major media, you're not getting the truth. Because the major media, they just play the clips, they just play the sound bites, but they're not actually reporting on what people care about, which is action and results. And unfortunately, the unit party seems to be up to its old tricks down here in the state of Texas. We're ultimately going to win, but we could win a lot faster if people got a lot more energized down here in the posse. You guys are making a difference, I promise you. We wouldn't see any movement. We wouldn't even be close at all if it weren't for you guys. So keep the pressure up. Remind these elected officials what is at stake and that you know they can make a difference. You know they've got the power to end it and you expect results.

Brian, thank you so much for joining us. Something tells me we will have you back on super soon.

Always great being with you and Steven the posse. God bless Texas. God bless y'.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

All.

[Natalie Winters]

Thank you, sir. Now, I know we always like to talk about what is it, you know, TikTok, the deep state. They're panicking and look, I hope they are. I think they should be. But it's always a great day when you see that actually materialize on particularly MSNBC and their legal analysts starts freaking out on behalf of the one and only Tish James. We're gonna have Julie Kelly on to break it down. But let's roll this clip because it's just Too good not to watch.

[Unnamed Analyst]

There is nothing scarier for a citizen to get a subpoena or find out that they're being investigated by a federal criminal grand jury. It's terrifying. And here's why. Grand jury investigations sweep broadly. They gather terabytes of information and they're very efficient at going through it. And the problem there for people is that they may be investigating issue number one and then stumble across never before known issue number two when going through all those documents. That is why if somebody is the subject, the target of a grand jury investigation, that is not a good sign. So given that the federal government has such tremendous power to investigate, Letitia James should be very concerned. Not that she necessarily did anything wrong, but because that kind of scrutiny of financial records, of business records, everything going back probably years, might yield something that the government finds interesting.

[Natalie Winters]

Guess the the hunters have become the hunted. How does that feel? Tish James, by the way, love the addition of she didn't necessarily do anything wrong because he knows he probably can't say definitively that she didn't do anything wrong because we know what she did and conspired to do against President Trump. Someone who tracked that from the beginning, the get go of all of it was, of course, none other than the wonderful Julie Kelly, who joins us now. Julie, we got a few minutes before we got to jump to break, but I'm just curious, your sort of assessment, not just of that clip, but more broadly, the DOJ grand jury investigation.

[Julie Kelly]

I mean, kudos to Attorney General Pam Bondi and of course, our friend Ed Martin, who is going to be who has been tasked with pursuing these investigations into both Tish James and Adam Schiff for mortgage fraud. But I have to say, Natalie, after covering the January 6th proceedings and the two criminal investigations into Donald Trump which resulted in those two unprecedented federal indictments by Special Counsel Jack Smith, where they dragged dozens and dozens of Trump associates, family members, White House aides, attorneys, Vice President Mike Pence in front of a D.C. grand jury to testify about the president allegedly trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Now all of a sudden, now all of a sudden, the legal experts and talking heads are just gobsmacked that this can work both ways and that there is serious potential legal liability for Letitia James, Adam Schiff and whoever else this Trump DOJ decides to go after.

[Natalie Winters]

And I'm curious, this is sort of the first, I think, through this approach, right, the grand jury investigation. Where else would you recommend that they go go after this or would you do it sort of piece by piece or would you just throw a wide net, I guess, kind of like the Democrats did?

[Julie Kelly]

Well, we do know also that Pambani this week tasked a federal prosecutor with bringing Russiagate hoax evidence to a grand jury. What's interesting, and I just read a piece as I'm trying to catch up on this development today, it looks like they are pursuing grand juries in Maryland and Virginia, which means, Natalie, that the DOJ is doing whatever they can to avoid presenting these investigations or pursuing prosecutions in the D.C. district courthouse, which as you know and we've talked about four years is really the center of the rut of our legal and judicial system. The politicization all originates right there in that D.C. courthouse. We saw what happened to Jeb Bosberg today. I'm sure we'll talk about it on the other side here. But that if true, that they are pursuing grand juries outside of D.C. and Maryland and Virginia. That's also an extremely interesting development today as well.

[Natalie Winters]

Julie, if you can hang with us through the break, I guess you're already ahead of me. I want to link this. Obviously the courts, 9 times out of 10 the news is bad. But every now and then you see a rogue radical. They say, oh, Bush appointed or you know, seldom right wing. But we know they're all very, very far. They're not even judges, they're activists. We shouldn't even call them that. We shouldn't afford them that honor and that privilege which if you can hang with us, we're going to get into the overturn of I think a very infamous Bozberg decision having to do with, you know, something that it shouldn't be that controversial. But that is of course deporting criminal illegal aliens to frankly, I would argue whatever country, whatever hellhole, those scum of the earth people, the long end, absolutely wild. I guess the hunters have become the hunted. We'll keep saying that. We'll be right back after this short break.

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Natalie Winters]

Welcome back to the War Room. I think since we started this show, there's some breaking news at least reportedly potentially an active shooter at Emory University down in Georgia. Unclear the specifics. It's just sort of starting to break the videos on social media. So we'll definitely keep, keep tracking that. But as we wait for that to develop, we've still got Julie Kelly. Julie, if you can walk the audience through what happened re Boasberg's, like I was saying, very infamous decision regarding the Alien Enemies act, the deportations, the flights and how it was actually struck down.

[Julie Kelly]

Well, actually what was reversed today, Natalie, was his contempt order against the Trump administration. So what Bosberg did in that infamous hearing on March 15th in that very first Alien Enemies act lawsuit is he set a contempt trap for the Trump Department of Justice. And ever since that day forward, he pursued it, claiming that the Trump Department of Justice and his administration defied an order, an oral order, he calls it, to return two planes that had already departed US Airspace were carrying these alien enemies at subjects from detention centers in Texas to El Salvador. Jeb Bossberg egregiously ordering the return of US Planes carrying illegal immigrants has outside of the purview of the judicial branch, ordering them return. Not only did the Supreme Court vacate his order, not that particular, well, that order, but also said he doesn't have jurisdiction over this because the plaintiff's in the case were in Texas, they weren't in Washington. Didn't matter. What Bostberg did after that was berate and harass and harangue DOJ attorneys in his courtroom. And I was there in April when he did it again claiming that by defying that order to return the planes, they were in contempt of court. What the D.C. appellate court did today, two to one decision to Trump judges, one Obama appointed judge was vacate his contempt findings. And not only did they vacate his contempt findings, Natalie, they issued a writ of mandamus, which is very unusual for judges to do, basically saying either do your job or don't do your job. And so they said because particular Naomi Rout, a Trump appointed judge on that panel, just called this an egregious abuse of power and discretion by Jeb Bosberg, that there was no evidence, first of all, that, that the entire order that he issued was overturned by the Supreme Court. And number two, the contempt findings were weak at best and he didn't have any basis for claiming that they had defied that order. So this is really another stunning development. More proof, Natalie, of this hyper partisan judge who is the chief judge of the D.C. district Court, by the way. He's not just a regular judge on the bench. He is extremely powerful. And this is why, as I said earlier, the Trump administration would have an extremely difficult time pursuing any grand jury proceedings in D.C. courthouse because he would oversee those as the chief judge. So now you have Judge Bosberg being smacked down by the Supreme Court twice, the appellate court again today. They also may issue another they're looking at something else that Bostberg did that might have violated local court rules early on in this process. So this guy is completely out of control. But Natalie, as you know, we talked about, these DC Judges do not care if they're overturned by the Supreme Court, by their colleagues on the D.C. appellate court. They are going to do whatever they can to help shape this narrative that the Trump administration is defying court orders and acting outside of the scope of whatever these courts and judges tell them to do. And so that is what Jeb Osberg tried to do. And luckily the DC Appellate court overturned him today.

[Natalie Winters]

Julie Kelly, as always, we appreciate you breaking all this down for us here in the war room before we have you back on. If people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on, where can they go to do that?

[Julie Kelly]

So I covered some of this today on X. Julie underscore Kelly 2 and my substack is declassified with Julie Kelly.

[Natalie Winters]

Thank you, ma', am, for joining us. Have a good weekend.

[Julie Kelly]

Thanks, Natalie.

[Natalie Winters]

What she's describing, I think is exactly the playbook that we heard Norm Eisen brazenly admit to while talking with pbs. Right. The sort of convergence between lawfare and political opposition, regime change, all of that running together and now, of course, using that to sort of incite public opinion and depict President Trump as this rogue, unconstitutional, lawless autocrat. I don't know about you, I don't think any of the people in the Norm Eisen camp and these left wing crazy Soros funded NGOs care an ounce about the Constitution. What was it just about a year ago? They were probably calling to shred it. It's probably what they do to start all their weird freaky conferences that they host. We certainly don't do that here in the war room, let alone at MyPillow. Mike Lindell joins us now from I think Vegas. Mike Lindell in Vegas. That sounds like a winning combo. Hit us with the latest.

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[Natalie Winters]

No H1BS. Certainly none of those at MyPillow. And we love you for it. Mike Lindell, have fun in Vegas. I'm sure you're going to give a wonderful speech and congrats on the recent court win. We will see you back here in the war room soon. And Warren Posse, thank you for hanging with me. I encourage all of you guys to go and watch the extended Norm Eisen interview. We can take a victory lap for 200 days but you know, as we always say, no days off in the war room. I think Steve is back for the 6pm until then, you guys have a wonderful weekend and I'll see you soon.

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