Episode 4704: Seizing The Institutions

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room Episode: Episode 4704: Seizing The Institutions
Release Date: August 14, 2025

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Introduction and Honors

Timestamp: 00:00 – 04:23

The episode opens with Stephen K. Bannon honoring a lineup of distinguished figures from the entertainment and music industries. He celebrates George Strait, Michael Crawford, Sylvester Stallone, Gloria Gaynor, and the rock band Kiss for their significant contributions and achievements. Bannon highlights their impact and enduring legacies, setting a tone of recognition and respect for influential personalities.

Seizing the Institutions: A Deep Dive

Timestamp: 04:24 – 24:16

Stephen K. Bannon transitions the conversation to the central theme of the episode—Seizing The Institutions. He introduces the topic by discussing the recent events surrounding the Kennedy Center Honors, pointing out the politicization of such prestigious awards. Bannon expresses concerns over the selection of honorees like Kiss and Sylvester Stallone, suggesting that political affiliations, particularly support for Donald Trump, are influencing these honors.

Alex Wagner questions the implications of these actions, emphasizing how they reflect a broader effort to control and reshape key institutions in favor of a specific political agenda. Sam Faddis echoes these concerns, arguing that the appointments are less about merit and more about political alignment, stating, "Basically, it looks like the standard is as long as you have supported Donald Trump in the past, you can be a Kennedy Center honoree." [04:29]

The discussion shifts to the global political landscape, with a focus on the Russia-Ukraine conflict. Colonel Derek Harvey and Dave Brat provide their insights on President Zelensky's position and the United States' approach to brokering peace. They analyze the complexities of the negotiations, the unity (or lack thereof) within NATO, and the long-term strategies of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Breaking Russian News and Geopolitical Strategies

Timestamp: 24:16 – 37:08

Dave Brat elaborates on the challenges faced by Zelensky, highlighting the differing stances within NATO and the exhaustion among European allies. He suggests that President Trump is aiming to craft a pragmatic deal with Putin that balances sanctions and economic incentives, despite the inherent difficulties due to Putin's long-term strategic vision.

Alex Wagner underscores the precariousness of the situation, questioning the viability of Zelensky's sovereignty and the influence of globalist agendas. The conversation delves into the erosion of nation-state principles in favor of a one-world government perspective, with Wagner remarking, "How do you appraise that situation? He has been acting on the behest of NATO and the United States." [11:23]

Institutional Corruption and the Deep State

Timestamp: 37:08 – 54:14

The core segment of the episode revolves around exposing institutional corruption reminiscent of the Watergate scandal. Michael Patrick Leahy and Jeff Shepherd join the discussion to draw parallels between Nixon's downfall and current political conspiracies. They present evidence of due process violations, secret meetings, and biased prosecutions aimed at undermining leadership, specifically targeting figures like Donald Trump.

Leahy states, "All three branches of the government worked to undermine and take down Nixon. Executive, judiciary and legislative. And the media did it as well." [49:33] This assertion underscores the systematic effort to destabilize political leaders who challenge the established order.

Colonel Derek Harvey and Sam Faddis further dissect the mechanisms through which the "Deep State" operates, emphasizing the unaccountable growth of governmental agencies and the erosion of checks and balances. They argue that top officials within agencies like the CIA and FBI have lost touch with constitutional responsibilities, effectively creating a fourth branch of government that operates beyond public oversight.

Analysis of the Nixon Conspiracy

Timestamp: 37:21 – 50:12

Michael Patrick Leahy introduces a documentary produced by War Room Films detailing how the Deep State orchestrated Nixon's downfall. He reveals instances of journalists Woodward and Bernstein engaging in unethical practices, such as securing grand juror names illegally, which compromised the integrity of the Watergate investigations.

Jeff Shepherd adds, "These meetings between Judge Sirica and the special prosecutor, we can account for about 10 of them. The issue is not were there these secret meetings, was there suppression of evidence?" [43:24] This highlights the manipulation and obstruction of justice that mirrored today's allegations against the Deep State against contemporary politicians.

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Timestamp: 50:40 – End

The episode concludes with Stephen K. Bannon reiterating the urgency of addressing institutional corruption and reclaiming the nation's foundational principles. He encourages listeners to engage with the documentary and stay informed about ongoing conspiracies that threaten the integrity of American governance.

Alex Wagner wraps up by emphasizing the need for collective action and awareness, stating, "The truth will set you free. There's instability though. Everybody feels it right in your gut." [43:36] The episode ends on a call to action, urging listeners to support efforts aimed at restoring accountability and transparency within the nation's institutions.

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Notable Quotes:

• Sam Faddis: "Basically, it looks like the standard is as long as you have supported Donald Trump in the past, you can be a Kennedy Center honoree." [04:29]

• Michael Patrick Leahy: "All three branches of the government worked to undermine and take down Nixon. Executive, judiciary and legislative. And the media did it as well." [49:33]

• Jeff Shepherd: "These meetings between Judge Sirica and the special prosecutor, we can account for about 10 of them. The issue is not where there were these secret meetings, was there suppression of evidence?" [43:24]

• Alex Wagner: "How do you appraise that situation? He has been acting on the behest of NATO and the United States." [11:23]

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This episode of Bannon’s War Room delves deep into the themes of institutional corruption, political manipulation, and the ongoing struggle to maintain democratic integrity in the face of entrenched power structures. Through expert analysis and compelling narratives, the hosts and guests shed light on the mechanisms that threaten to undermine the very foundations of American governance.

Transcript

[Stephen K. Bannon]

First is country music star, actor and producer, George Strait. Great. Over an extraordinary four decade career, George has sold more than 120 million records worldwide, amassed 60 number one hits.

[Dave Brat]

Wow.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And produced 33 platinum certified albums. More than any other living American. That is amazing. He's believed by millions of people to just be as good as you can get. And he's beloved by hundreds of millions of people all over the world. He's really something and they call him the king of country and we know him very well. George Strait. Second is actor, singer, philanthropist and star of the Broadway stage. One of my favorite talents, I think he's one of the greatest talents I've ever actually seen. I've always said, and just so we don't get in trouble, I'll say among, but among the greatest artists in the world are the Broadway, London actors. Back and forth, that's all they want to do is they want to do Broadway and they want to do London. They want to do eight shows a week including matinee on Wednesday. And if you said make a movie, they can't even think about it. If you say go on television, they don't want to. All they want to do is be on the stage, the live stage. And it's amazing. But I've always said that they're most talented people and this man may be the most of all. Michael Crawford is being honored next. We look forward to honoring three time Oscar nominee, Golden Globe award winner and action movie icon and a friend of mine. Very unique man. He's somebody that doesn't do these things. I said, I wonder if he'll accept because some people don't really want to be honored. They don't care. But he was very honored to be honored. I will tell you he was. He's a very special guy, a real talent. Never been given the credit for the talent there was. Nobody else could have done the roles that he did like he did. I'm not even close. And they've tried and they didn't work out too well. His name is Sylvester Stallone. Fourth, we'll be together celebrating one of the most revered singers of the American disco era, Gloria Gaynor. Best known for her chart topping 1978 hit I Will Survive, Gloria won the 1980 Grammy for best disco recording and her song was inducted into the national recording registry in 2016. Four decades later, Gloria won a second Grammy in 2020 for her gospel album Testimony, which is incredible. Truly a historic achievement. Not only in times of the, not only in terms of the years that have gone by to be great that long. But to have the two top, two top of anything in that span of time and with that kind of period between is pretty amazing. And finally, we'll be honoring one of the greatest rock bands of all time, Kiss. So Kiss was formed in 1973 in New York City by founding band members and incredible people, by the way. Paul Stanley, Gene Simmons, Ace Fraley, and Peter Criss. Kiss became a global phenomenon, sold more than 100 million records worldwide and produced 30 gold albums and lots of other things. They produced, they made a fortune, and they're great people, and they deserve it. And they work hard, and they're still working hard. And it's an honor to present Kiss. Thank you very much. Got it.

[Alex Wagner]

Yeah.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you.

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

What exactly is happening?

[Alex Wagner]

Because just on the face of it.

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

One of the concerns I've read is even if you've gotten people who have said, I'll take the Kennedy Center Honors, there's usually dozens and dozens of people who show up to perform in honor of them. Will they get performers out? The idea of a President of the United States hosting what's going on at the Kennedy Center?

[Sam Faddis]

Yeah. I don't mean to say that we're getting into the D list of celebrities, but we're certainly getting into, you know, entertainers. We're certainly getting to a point where there's a very small pool, because what's going on at the Kennedy center is, you know, a takeover by the president that isn't just about who gets to sit on the board, but it is literally down to him choosing who's going to be a recipient of awards. And you look down the list, you know, that he named today, you know, Kiss, the band headlined by Gene Simmons, who was a candidate, I guess, on the Celebrity Apprentice. You look at Sylvester Stallone, a huge Trump supporter. You know, we all love Sly stallone and Rocky 50 years ago or so, but certainly not the sort of lifetime achievement that you normally see in a Kennedy center honor. So basically, it looks like the standard is as long as you have supported Donald Trump in the past, you can be a Kennedy center honoree.

[Alex Wagner]

So I should.

[Sam Faddis]

By the way, I should say another thing, if you don't mind, Chris. I think we heard him talking about politics earlier. Then. I think we got a clip of that.

[Alex Wagner]

Okay.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

They shouldn't make this political because they made the Academy Awards political and they went down the tubes. So they'll say Trump made it political. But I think if we make it, our kind of political will go up. Okay, let's see if I'm right about that.

[Sam Faddis]

Our kind of political, Trump said. And again, if you look at the list of honorees, it's clear where that's headed.

[Michael Lindell]

Burn it down. They're just anti institutionalists, you know, Alex Wagner, they're the ones that protect the institutions. No, Alex, we're grabbing the institutions and taking power as the American people. The way our constitutional system works gave President Trump the authority to do so. We're going to deconstruct the administrative state, we're going to purge the deep state and the executive branch. We're going to take over the Senate and we control the House already. Oh, by the way, the judiciary, you're not going to get your judges through. They're all going to be Trump judges. I want you to. I. You're on the fetal position, so I'm going to give you something really to suck your thumbs about. We are in charge. Okay? The American people have spoken.

[Alex Wagner]

All right, everyone, if that doesn't jack you up a bit, I don't know what will. Steve Bannon, Seizing the Institutions. Rocky in the background. One of the greatest movies ever made. In my view, I'm gonna get in trouble with my wife at home for that one, but this is a return to the 80s season. The institutions. I love this kiss. Rocky, Sylvester Stallone at the Kennedy Center. If that's not seizing the institutions, I don't know what is. So I personally love it. DC's being shaken up. We're returning to peace around the world. Hopefully we're returning to peace in the streets. The stock market likes it. The markets are ripping up. It's unbelievable what's going on. Huge capital investment coming our way. $10 trillion tariffs are having their anticipated effect on the rest world, both politically and economically. Today's show you're going to love. We're going to cover the many conspiracies that are no longer conspiracies. They are all going to grand juries because the evidence is overwhelming. And so today on the show we have Colonel Derek Harvey, Sam Battis, and then the Nixon piece that Steve did the other day with Michael Patrick Leahy and Jeff Shepard. I loved it. My wife and I are going to be watching that thing tonight. We should have watched it last night because I'm interviewing him right now. But that, that kind of tees up everything, right? The JFK files have been released a little bit more, gives us a little more hints that the American people have been on the right page. But let's just get right to the news of the day. It's an honor to bring in Colonel Derek Harvey. And we're going to cover the breaking Russian news. First, we had the meetings with Zelensky today, who, you know, took extreme liberties, not of manners and decorum, but just out of control imbalance of power between the United States and him in the White House in front of President Trump and J.D. vance, just kind of a stunning setup. And I don't think he's holding too many cards, but that's why we brought in the expert. And so Colonel Derek Harvey, can you bring up us up on the news of the day and what that set of meetings means? And then we'll get to Friday when we're done with today. Thank you for being with us.

[Dave Brat]

Great to be here. Well, Dave, I think that, you know, President Zelensky and his main backers, you know, the uk, France, for example, they're the maximalist groups that are holding out for a very hard line position in trying to bring this war to an end completely on their terms. Russia, really no negotiation. Russia has to not only cede the territory they've taken in the invasion three and a half years ago, but they also have to cede Crimea and other territories taken back in 2014, et cetera. So there's that. But NATO is not united. You know, you've got Germany and Poland and others are very fatigued and want to get on with business with Russia. So I think what we're going to be seeing here is an effort by the president to move the ball forward and a deal, possibly a framework of a deal with Putin that would address things with carrots and sticks, trade, technology, access, help with the economy for Russia. At the same time, you know, we still have the, you know, the levers of the stick, you know, the sanctions and things like that that are there, too. But it's going to be a very difficult thing because Putin is playing the long game. He sees the weakness in NATO. He knows that America first does not really want to be engaged. And he sees popular support for Zelensky and those positions there by his administration deteriorating rapidly.

[Alex Wagner]

Yeah. How do you frame the following. Right. We believe in the nation state, the globalists want one world government, NATO. And the Europeans are probably more toward the globalist position. And so we're in a precarious position where we're saying to a sovereign state, Ukraine, hey, your days are up. But it's kind of because we're so principled, like Cub Scouts, right? In no way are they a sovereign state. Our CIA and the Europeans have been playing on this, and NATO has been adding, you know, 16 countries since the deal in 1991 where we gave our oral promise that we wouldn't move east. Seventeen countries later now, and an unelected president in Zelensky. And we're supposed to, you know, so how do you appraise that situation? He has been acting on the behest of NATO and the United States. And now to think that he's going to call the shots as the leader of a sovereign country, supposedly when the whole global order and potential nuclear war is at stake. How do you assess that state of affairs?

[Dave Brat]

Well, he's in a very weak position in so many ways, but he's obstinate and he has the support of Paris and London and some other capitals and the EU leadership and many in NATO. So that's where his strength comes from. But he is increasingly isolated. And so that's going to be a challenge. But, you know, they can't win the war. And that's just a reality. And I don't think the United States wants to take, you know, significant risk by, you know, removing restrictions on the use of U.S. offensive military capabilities that have been provided. And I don't think we want to provide more offensive capability to them either. We want to get on with building peace in the area and rebuilding NATO and developing trade and economic efforts that will bring Russia and Germany's interests more in line. I think, I think there's a number of avenues here. But keep in mind, this is very important, Dave. Ukraine's government was toppled by a, you know, that was aligned with Russia, was toppled by an Obama air color revolution.

[Alex Wagner]

Okay.

[Dave Brat]

And you go back to all of that, we wouldn't be in this place today if it hadn't been for the malign behavior of the Obama administration and their State Department intelligence services, that we're playing games in a way that they should never have been.

[Alex Wagner]

Yeah, that's great. I'm going to hold you over the break. If you can stay with us, that'd be super. And let's, let's dig a little deeper. I just want to know, is his approval necessary? Right. He's saying no Ukrainian land. He's making the deal impossible. Right. It's very clear to most people that, that Putin's going to take the Donbas and, you know, the south and maybe a hair more. And so after the break, we'll come back and assess that you're kind of using the long run leverage we have over them. Do we have short run leverage to just ignore him? Because I think that's the route Trump's going to end up taking one way or the other. And so stay tuned after the break. And we're right back with more on Russia Putin.

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[Dave Brat]

Well, I don't see how Zelensky can hold the position over the long haul because there will be too much pressure, not just from President Trump, but also from European countries and leaders, international community, and importantly from within his own country because the numbers have flipped over three years. We're 60, you know, a large percentage, 65% or so according to the latest Gallup. How reliable those, those polls are there, I'm not sure. But it shows that there's just a groundswell of in a movement towards wanting a peaceful outcome, getting this war over with. Ukraine's exhausted. Europe is tired of it. The international community wants to get on with things in my view. And Trump's meeting on Friday and he's going to have a serious talk with him. He said that, you know, there has to be movement. And then the second thing is he's going to follow up with additional meetings which is going to be important with Zelensky and Putin. The timing of those I'm not certain. But you know, the President has clearly laid out there's going to be a series of meetings to try and get this resolved as quickly as he can.

[Alex Wagner]

Great. Derek Harvey, I've never gotten a chance to congratulate you on your position, Special Assistant to the President of the United States after serving our country in the armed forces. So thank you for your service and congratulations on your new position. And on the show you get into intelligence issues quite a bit. We got Sam Fatis coming up. I'm going to ask you both an impossible question that's, that's kind of leading. But I just kind of want to get your response. It just seems that there's so much of these conspiracies that are lining up and they're no longer conspiracies. The evidence is coming in from Tulsi Gabbard going to grand juries. And I could just read off a list the, the Nixon case. We've got Michael Patrick Leahy and Jeff Shepard coming up next with some receipts there. JFK recently released new files from our CIA from John Radcliffe Biden laptop, Biden checks Hillary bleach bit and Hillary foundation new receipts coming in in the last week. Federal Reserve 2008 banking crisis. No one goes to jail. That one's totally unresolved. No one goes to jail. Big pharma, Fauci, RFK Jr. The CIA. 70 coup d'. ETATs. USAID media funded CIA cutouts at every turn. Why don't you just. It seems that we need some new vocabulary. I apologize folks. They. They installed some new technology in my office today. But what it seems like we need some new terminology for what has been going on in this country. This total loss of institutional credibility. The receipts are in. Bannon called his show this morning. Seizing the institutions for this reason. How do you characterize this 50 year swath of corruption from the deep state up in D.C. with our elites and the establishment who are supposed to lead us in the right direction. Derek Harvey.

[Dave Brat]

I call it abdication of the leadership of the Congress and that's both sides of Senate and the House of Representatives of their oversight. And they passed the buck to allow far too much autonomy and decision making for the execution and implementation of rules across departments and agencies and also for the executive branch. But you know, just even recently you didn't mention the COVID You know, disinformation. January 6th information that's. Now we're getting from the. There's the election information that Tulsi has laid out. And I just go Back. And Sam Faddis can talk about this, but you know, Eisenhower warned about this, but we've just built up more institutions with the DNI and the Department of Homeland Security in the Patriot act and others that have empowered unaccountable people. Okay. And I just leave it with this Durham. In his report, he said there no need for recommendations for changes because no one is conducting, I'm paraphrasing, no one's conducting oversight. No one's enforcing the laws, the rules and the policies that have been in place to make sure that the system works the way it's supposed to. Honestly, with integrity. Why should I make any recommendations?

[Alex Wagner]

Wow. Yeah. That's just a stunning admission. Colonel Derek Harvey, thanks for being with us today on the War Room. Congratulations on your new position serving the country as you always have. God bless you. Keep up your the great work and hope to talk to you soon. Thank you.

[Dave Brat]

God bless you.

[Alex Wagner]

You bet. All right, Sam Faddis with us, former CIA operative. Sam, why don't you just follow up with the same logic? How do you characterize this Long, long laundry list. Now, they're not conspiracies, they're not theories, they're not conjecture. We have evidence. And the receipts, the mainstream media won't ever tell you about that when they, they just make fun of Tulsi and says she's making groundless claims. She's handed in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pages across the board. And so how do you characterize this last 50 year period? And you know, Steve Bannon earlier today was talking about seizing the institution. So put it all together for us. How do the American people understand what has happened to this great country? And how do we clean it up?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Look, we have allowed the creation, the growth of a completely extra constitutional, at a minimum, fourth branch of government unaccountable to the American people. And on any given day, the folks that really run the country and have been running the country for a long time are in that fourth branch of government, that fourth branch of government being all of these giant government agencies. And look, I have nothing but respect for a lot of the folks, the rank and file in places like CIA, FBI, outdoing dangerous work and, you know, putting their lives on the line. But certainly in the top ranks of these organizations, you got folks that have lost the bubble and they, they, they now believe they rule the country. And they're not really, it's not just, nobody's holding them, I mean, nobody is holding them accountable. And they certainly do not believe they are accountable. And increasingly they go to Washington and spend their entire lives in Washington. So it's 40 years later and you're clapper at the top of one of these agencies. And when Trump wins in 2016, he famously expresses shock at the disconnect between the average American and Washington D.C. and what you're thinking is, well, did you ever get in a car and drive anywhere outside the Beltway and like talk to anybody? You drive through Pennsylvania, where I live and look at all the closed mills and everybody shopping in the dollar store like, no, you didn't. So it is a, it is not just out of touch. It believes it is above and beyond the Constitution. And I've certainly had this conversation with you and with Steve. These guys at the top here are the folks that put together what amounts to a nine year long coup against Donald Trump. They have no intention of going quietly into the night. I mean, if you think that you put two guys at the top of CIA, Ratcliffe and his deputy, and now you have transformed that agency and you're in control of it, I don't know what to say to you. You're living in another, another dimension that is not a condemnation of everybody at CIA just to say that place is filled with, at the senior levels, folks that were put there by somebody like John Brennan and still, even if they don't take direct orders from Brennan, are in fact pursuing his agenda. So we got a lot of work to do and a lot of house cleaning.

[Alex Wagner]

Yep. Back with Sam Fatis after the break. We're going to follow up there. It appears, you know, these Epstein files caught, caught everybody. And the big issue there is everyone's blackmailing everybody. And that's why it seems that they can't go in and clean house at the CIA or the FBI or the State Department. If you wipe out the top levels, you get threats with blackmail of every sort of. And so we're going to ask Sam Faddis about that after the break. So stay tuned to the War Room. Back with Sam Faddis, former CIA operative, war ROOM favorite.

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[Colonel Derek Harvey]

War room.

[Michael Lindell]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Alex Wagner]

All right everybody, incredible show in the war room today. The list of horribles the conspiracies were unpacking. The receipts are coming in. It's. It is a new day. It's, it's good news. It's pos. The truth will set you free. There's instability though. Everybody feels it right in your gut. And so one of our friends is trying to relieve some of that anxiety. And one of your key assets, one of your sources of stability of course is your family and your home. And so we want to make sure you're supporting home title lock. Go out to them hometitlelock.com promo code Steve hometitlelock.com promo Code Steve check out the million dollar triple lock protection. 14 day free trial. You don't want to find out after the fact. There are multiple claims on the title to your home. Your most important asset in these days of craziness and instability. Give yourself some assurance. Call our friends hometitle lock.com promo Steve. Steve. And they will give you that assurance. Great, great company, great supporters of the war room. So help support them as well. All right, Back in the war room with the great Sam Faddis, former CIA operative. And so we were just chatting over this list of the horribles, the receipts we have and all these conspiracies and Sam, you have a lifetime here with expertise. Is there any way, how do you think about. Is there any way you categorize this? A list of criteria. What, what is the most serious of these cases that face this country? Because it's overwhelming. So what do we tackle first? What's the first level significance for our country?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

I think you got to jump on the stuff that's the most immediate. And in other words, we got nine years of, in various iterations what amounts to a coup against Donald Trump, an attempt to subvert the Constitution. But, you know, agencies trying to decide that they get to choose who. Who's allowed to sit in the White House. We got to attack that, and we got to hold people responsible. And that isn't charging John Brennan with perjury. I'm talking significant charges, felonies, convictions, and imprisonment. And by the way, that. That will not be easy. That will take massive resources. Let's. Let's focus on the immediate issue. We can get around to asking CIA where these files about the JFK assassination have been for 50 years. Whatever it is. More than that now, later. But right now, we got. We gotta. We gotta do that. And we have to get control of these institutions again. I mean, in my. With all respect for, for Director Ratcliffe at CIA, again, using CIA only as an example. He should have fired every top executive on the seventh floor day one before he sat down in his chair. That's the reality.

[Alex Wagner]

Yep. That's the. I know. It makes the American people scratch their head. Let's go to the current news of the day. We cover with Colonel Harvey as well. But Russia discussions today Trump with Zelensky. Zelensky saying, I'm not compromised. We're not moving any lines with respect to Ukraine. Of course, that's not the case. Russia's winning easily. And the question in my mind, and most people, I think, that are saying, is whether it's Kiev or not Kiev. Right. That's more the question. If he thinks he's going to run this war forever, he's going to lose his whole country. And I don't think that's going to happen. And so Colonel Harvey said there'll be enough international pressure against him, but the UK and France are still supporting him. But I think Trump wants a deal now, and he's got the call Friday with Putin. And so how do you see closure coming about here?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Well, look, as you've. As you've noted, Zelensky's writing checks he can't cash. Right. He's way out over his skis. The guy's. Well, I don't know that he ever had a mind. He's lost his mind. Okay? You are going to make the decisions all by yourself. Well, you aren't fighting the war by yourself, buddy. And if you were in it by yourself, the Russians would have been in Kiev years ago. So the reality is you're going to have to face what the facts here. The facts are you're going to have a peace treaty, and pieces of Ukraine currently occupied by Russia will continue to be occupied by Russia. Exactly what Donald Trump said. Now, does that mean every square inch the Russians occupy right now you have to give up on. That's not what I'm saying. Saying you will not get all that territory back. That's the reality. And look, the Europeans can do what they do best, which is talk a lot. But if Zelensky thinks he's going it on his own, without us and the Europeans, he's toast. He's done. The entire British army has a grand total of 17,000 deployable guys. The Russians will kill that many in a month. So that's where we are. What happens to Zelensky? I don't know. Maybe somebody in Ukraine topples him and that's not code for the CIA. Maybe there are people in Ukraine who say, we're done with you. Maybe one day you find Zelensky got on a plane and disappeared. The uae, where he's apparently been sending money for some period of time. I don't know. But I do know he's got a wake up call coming. He has to accept the. In the real world, he will not get all of his territory back. I'm not a fan of Putin's. I'm just telling you what we, what, what the reality is, what the facts are.

[Alex Wagner]

Yeah, yeah. In a, in a closing minute, Sam, you know, the populist base. Meg, everyone watching this show is scratching their head on this one. They say, why doesn't Trump just take back all of the satellite stuff, all the weaponry stuff, all the everything, and it's over. And then big mouth can be quiet a little bit. Why hasn't that happened?

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Well, because obviously there are implications for us, unfortunately, because even though Trump wasn't in office, the United States provided all this. The spectacle of the United States taking everything, walking away and letting Ukraine just simply fall to the Russians completely has implications for us all over the world, just like us fleeing Afghanistan did. So, you know, we're stuck to that extent. But I expect some really hard nosed conversations between our guys and Zelensky. And I expect some senior Ukrainians telling Zelensky, hey, man, I don't know what you're thinking, but if the Americans walk, I'm packing up my family and going because the Russians will drive to Kiev in about two days.

[Alex Wagner]

Yeah. Yep. All right. Sam Fadis, a very wise man with always sober analysis. I love having him on. It's just refreshing hearing a very mature voice on very tough issues that some people are just, you know, slight and don't give them serious considerations. So, Sam, thanks always for your hard work and your super analysis on the War Room. God bless you. Thank you.

[Colonel Derek Harvey]

Thank you, sir. Thanks for having me.

[Alex Wagner]

You bet. Always, always. All right, folks, you're in for a treat. Right now we're going to go to a bit of a cold open here to set up the Nixon conspiracy. And wait till you hear this story. This will blow your mind as well.

[Michael Patrick Leahy]

Fired up secret meetings between judges and prosecutors, evidence hidden from defense attorneys, biased juries, an unaccountable prosecution force packed with political enemies, congressional leaders who are out to get the President and a dishonest media. This is how the Deep State took down a president and created the playbook they've used ever since.

[Alex Wagner]

All right, it's an honor to. I'm not introducing them. Michael Patrick Leahy and Jeff shepherd to the War Room there on with Steve yesterday on this Nixon Conspiracy. Thank you gentlemen for being on. If you don't know Michael Patrick Leahy, he's been a mega populist soldier for decades. He helped me way back when I was a rookie liberal arts college professor in economics and was a voice of strength and a solid foundation and cheerleader for me. So he's a good friend as well. And boy, does this story, it just fits. It's so overwhelming. There's so many similarities and commonalities between the movie you have and, and today, everything we covered on the show today, this list of horribles. And so Michael, why don't you just tee us off? First of all, tell everybody, where do they find this movie? Folks, go watch this thing because you got to educate your family, your kids, the War room, the posse, everybody needs to learn all this stuff. History matters, Michael. Fire away.

[Michael Patrick Leahy]

The documentary is from War Room Films and you can go right now to War Room Film War Room and you can just put your email address in and Download the entire 1 hour and 30 minute documentary, how the Deep State Took Down Richard Nixon. We announced this, launched it yesterday morning on Bannon's War Room. And guess what we've had in 24 hours, Dave? We've had over 13,000 downloads. I don't know how many we're gonna have now, but we this afternoon sent out an email to all 13,000 who've downloaded it. And we want to get your reviews of this documentary. We'll publish them. And if you want to send me on X your review, just go to Michael P. Leahy. So here's the deal. I have interviewed on my radio program about a year and a half ago, my good friend Jeff Shepherd. Jeff was in the Nixon White House. He was a Harvard Law School graduate, and his first job was as a White House fellow. Then he spent five years as an attorney in the Nixon White House. He transcribed the smoking gun tape. He spent more than 20 years writing and researching about it. And we discovered something that is really amazing. No one else has ever reported this. Dave Brat. There are at least a dozen due process violations for Watergate defendants and Richard Nixon that are egregious. For instance, the secret meetings where Judge John Sirica talked and strategized with the special prosecutor, Leon Jaworski. That's just one example of it. And then what was really stunning was that Jeff told me about the role that John Dean really played. And this might be a good time for Jeff to come in and talk about the John Dean that he knew.

[Alex Wagner]

Yeah, well, first, Mike, go Sirica and Jaworski. Why does that matter? The people that are listening. So what happened? What's so bad? And then we'll go to Jeff.

[Michael Patrick Leahy]

Yeah, well, look, if. If you are charged with crime, you have certain Fifth Amendment due process rights, and a fair trial from an unbiased judge is part of that. And it is absolutely unfair for the judge to meet secretly with the prosecutor and not have your defense attorney there. That is. That is the epitome of unfairness, and that's what happened as part of this process.

[Alex Wagner]

Yeah. Unreal. All right, Jeff, you got two minutes to make. Drop a couple bombs. So give us your best smoking guns quick, and we'll come back to you guys right after the break.

[Jeff Shepherd]

Sure. There are four phrases today that are bandied about with. With regard to Trump. Deep state, false narrative, fake news, and most of all, lawfare. But those things existed during Watergate. We just didn't know about them. We had different names for them, but they've started to come out. And what they show is the prosecutors and the judges and the Eastern liberal establishment hated Nixon so much they were willing to cheat to drive him out of office. You can imagine that because you can tell the hatred for Donald Trump today. I mean, seething hatred by lots of people. And you can imagine a situation where those people would be perfectly willing to cheat to keep him from power, to throw him out of office. That's what we have discovered happened during Watergate. We didn't know it at the time. The top four prosecutors took their records with them home when they left office, and that hid the impropriety. But there is a paper trail. These meetings between Judge Sirica and the special prosecutor, we can account for about 10 of them. Now, it wasn't just a chance happening where they talked strategy, they talked about rulings that were going to come before Sirica for decision and they met secretly in advance to brief him and they left a paper trail. So the, the issue is not were there these secret meetings, was there suppression of evidence? We've got the memos. We can say, well, do they accurately describe it? But, but you can't.

[Alex Wagner]

Nobody back right back with more analysis with Michael and Jeff. Just unbelievable breaking news again on Nixon. This time back after the break.

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[Alex Wagner]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. All right, back in the war room on Nixon with a great Leahy and Shepherd with us, they just gave a great summary what's going on today with their comments on Nixon. The Democrats heads popping off, seething, seething in anger. Just watch Joan Meek every morning and watch Steve in the cold opens that they put together. They're just tremendous. And then the Republicans on Nixon backstabbing him. He had no friends there. I mean, you want to talk about the Uni party. I don't know if it was a unit party back then, but just the establishment. Nixon, by the way, won the presidency with 500 electoral votes. A stunning win with the American people behind him. A simple Quaker guy. He's a very smart guy. And so I don't know how all this happens. But Michael, why don't you. Anything you want to say on Nixon? First, he didn't have many friends on the Republican side. He got backstabbed. And then Woodward and Bernstein, you know, I understand they're the greatest journalists that have ever lived. What's the part of them in this story here?

[Michael Patrick Leahy]

Well, let's talk about Woodward and Bernstein. Of course, Woodward knew Mark Felt for a couple years before when Woodward was briefing the National Security Council on Navy matters. So they'd known each other for a couple years after the break in on June 17, 1972, Woodward got the story for the Washington Post. One of the first things he did, he called up his buddy Mark Felt, and Felt basically told him what was going on. It was really egregious in how he handled that at that time. Then a couple months later, Woodward and Bernstein secured the names of the grand jurors in the Watergate grand jury and talked to them. That's illegal to do, but they did it and got away with it.

[Alex Wagner]

Oh, they lied about it.

[Michael Patrick Leahy]

They claim their source, if you read their book, their inside scoop on the Watergate grand jury, they claim their source was a secretary with the Nixon campaign. That wasn't true. They misled everybody about this. Nobody knew this. But they talked to a grand juror. Bernstein wrote seven pages in a memo to Bradley and 40 years later it was discovered. It was only recently reported.

[Alex Wagner]

Unbelievable. By the way, we're very thankful to you, both of you, for the research here. This is not easy, folks. You just don't go Google this stuff. This is painstaking research over decades. Jeff. Elliot Richardson, I hear there's a sub story there. Why don't you give us that one?

[Jeff Shepherd]

Well, there certainly is. You talk about backstabbing. When Nixon brought in a new crew to clean house after, after Watergate, he asked Elliot Richardson to be Attorney General because he wasn't involved at all. But Elliot had designs of running for President someday and certainly didn't want to get involved in Watergate. So he merrily gave away during his confirmation, gave away any oversight for the Watergate investigations and prosecutions, gave it over to one of the most prominent Democrats, to Archibald Cox and the creation, just like what happened with Trump. Brand new people, unconfirmed by the Senate the hiring of a special set of dedicated anti Nixon people. The Watergate special prosecution force ultimately totaled 156 employees specially hired, having nothing to do with statutorily established organization or Senate confirmed leadership. I mean, it was just astonishing. All because Elliot Richardson didn't want to Be involved.

[Alex Wagner]

Unbelievable. Hey Michael, close us out in one minute. Give us the connections to today. John Solomon had some great reporting as well of what happened that drove Nixon from office today. Seems like a misdemeanor. It's not even clear in your story here how complicit Nixon was in anything and yet we have major conspiracies of treason involving several current presidents and the receipts to match. So sum it up in 30 seconds to a minute and link people to your documentary and thanks for being with us.

[Michael Patrick Leahy]

All three branches of the government worked to undermine and take down Nixon. Executive, judiciary and legislative. And the media did it as well. And you can see all this in our documentary for free for the next two weeks. Go to War Room film. War Room Film. Put your name and email address in and you'll be able to watch all 1 hour and 30 minutes of it and then send us a review. You can go to Michael P. Leahy on my X account and just send me a brief review or respond to our friends at War Room. By the way, Stephen K. Bannon is the executive producer of this documentary.

[Alex Wagner]

Super, super. All right, gentlemen, thanks for your this is contribution to America. It's just great work. Michael Patrick Leahy and Jeff Shepherd, God bless you. Keep up the great work and we'll have you back on a lot. And now we go to our another American patriot and legend. Sell us a pillow. Michael Lindell. Give us a few words on your on the faith for the day. What's the words for faith for the day. And then sell us some pillows.

[I]

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[Alex Wagner]

All right, Michael Lindell, he's been fighting for our country. Please support Mike. He came to Liberty University a couple years ago. I got my Liberty University shirt on. I'm going around the country giving talks. But Mike did a about a 10,000 pillow delivery to Liberty University. I think he wanted to have the biggest pillow drop, but there were some lawyers involved in that. But Mike, thank you for all your work. Last. Last 10 second blurb.

[I]

Yeah, thanks, Dave. Yes. And it was amazing. At Liberty, we had a giveaway, all the pillows and all. Before this election stuff, I used to just go out and evangelize and tell everybody, hey, you're in the greatest revival for Jesus Christ in history. But right now, everybody you can. You know, I'm just so grateful, Posse for supporting my till.

[Alex Wagner]

And you heard it right there, folks.

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