Episode 4722: Collusion Between Your Government And Big Tech Episode 4722: Collusion Between Your Government And Big Tech

Summary

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Episode Overview

Title: Episode 4722: Collusion Between Your Government And Big Tech
Date: August 21, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon (WarRoom.org)
Featured Guests: Senator Eric Schmidt (MO), Congressman Chip Roy (TX), Dr. Peter Navarro

Main Theme:
This episode of Bannon’s War Room centers on the alleged collusion between the federal government and Big Tech companies, updates on court battles over government overreach, election rigging/redistricting, ongoing Ukraine aid debates, and the evolving populist, nationalist agenda within the Republican and MAGA movements. The conversation highlights Senator Eric Schmidt’s new book, courtroom strategies for conservatives, and Chip Roy’s run for Texas Attorney General. Dr. Peter Navarro joins to discuss trade victories, his jail time, and the weaponization of the Justice Department.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Changing Voter Demographics and Redistricting

• (00:03–01:14) Senator Eric Schmidt analyzes demographic shifts, voter concerns, and the need for door-to-door engagement:
  “Sometimes, you know, we become convinced that the things we care about is what everyone cares about and sometimes that's not the case. So we really have to do a much better job in a very granular way…” (Eric Schmidt, 00:12)
• (01:30–02:45) Reducing black representation through redistricting is decried as “wrong, immoral, it's not Democratic.” Speaker urges Democrats to fight fire with fire.
• (04:23–05:19) Bannon: “This is radical rigging of a midterm election, radical rigging of an election, destroying, vandalizing this democracy, the rule of law... we're going medieval on these people.” (Steve Bannon, 04:23)

2. Senator Eric Schmidt’s Book: "The Last Line of Defense"

• (05:45–13:57) Senator Schmidt discusses his work as Missouri AG, litigation wins against vaccine mandates, student loan forgiveness, Big Tech censorship, and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP):
  • Courage and planning: “You have to have courage. Like, it's a lot easier in these jobs just to go to the ribbon cuttings and get the accolades or whatever. That's not me… It's about saving the country.” (Eric Schmidt, 08:39)
  • On the CCP lawsuit: “We decided to sue Communist China, the CCP, the Wuhan Institute for Virology, for unleashing COVID on the world. ...there's a $24 billion dollar judgment out there now...” (Eric Schmidt, 11:43)

Notable Court Wins Highlighted:

• Vaccine mandate Supreme Court victory.
• Student loan debt forgiveness win.
• Missouri vs. Biden — Case against federal censorship via Big Tech platforms.

3. "Collusion" Between Government Agencies and Big Tech

• (18:12–20:37) Schmidt’s lawsuit exposed a coordinated effort between federal agencies and platforms like Twitter/Facebook to suppress conservative speech:
  • “We found out there were secret portals between high-ranking government officials and high ranking executives at Twitter and Facebook coordinating their efforts. The collusion that was happening, the coercion that was happening.” (Eric Schmidt, 18:12)
  • Depositions of Anthony Fauci, Elvis Chan (FBI), and evidence on flagging the Hunter Biden laptop story.

4. The Ukraine Debate & Critique of U.S. Foreign Policy

• (20:37–23:29) New casualty data is invoked to push against further Ukraine aid. Bannon describes U.S. policy support as a “debacle,” driven by establishment types in Congress:
  • Schmidt: “There's no appetite, I don't think, I hope, for any additional billions of dollars for Ukraine in Missouri. One thing that no one has ever come up to me and said... is send another $60 billion to Ukraine. Not one person’s ever said that to me.” (Eric Schmidt, 21:42)

5. Congressman Chip Roy Announces Texas AG Run

• (24:49–33:47) Chip Roy launches his campaign for Texas Attorney General with an emphasis on border security, law enforcement, fighting “radical Democrats,” anti-corporate populism, and election integrity.
  • “I believe it's time to come home... Texas is central to the future of America. As Texas goes, so will freedom and so will America. And I'm coming home to fight for Texas.” (Chip Roy, 27:18)
• (31:04–33:47) On redistricting and corporate GOP interests: “We need to be as aggressive as the White House is willing to push for... Legislature, go as far as you can go. I think we could be a little more aggressive in Texas. There's no doubt.” (Chip Roy, 31:04)

6. Shifting U.S.-EU Trade Policy and the MAGA Economic Agenda

• (37:19–40:42) Dr. Peter Navarro outlines a new trade deal with the EU, including tariffs, agricultural access, and strategic investments:
  • “This is called running the table in pool. It's just amazing deal. So I think we're happy about that and the American people should be elated.” (Dr. Peter Navarro, 37:19)
• Navarro and Bannon detail how Trump’s second term is more united behind aggressive trade and tariff strategies:
  • “Inside the perimeter here, the difference is we don't have to fight a lot of people trying to tear down the Trump agenda in the first term. It was war. Steve, you were there.” (Navarro, 40:42)
  • Tariffs as tax cuts and debt reduction, not increases: “What tariffs are right now are tax cuts and debt reduction... we're gonna get over 2 trillion.” (Navarro, 43:18)

7. Lawfare, DOJ Weaponization & Navarro’s Prison Experience

• (45:01–51:47) Navarro discusses his prison sentence, the “weaponization of government” against MAGA officials, and his new book I Went to Prison So You Won't Have To: A Love and Lawfare Story in Trumpland.
  • “If they can come for me, they can come for you. And look, everybody in the war room knows they're coming for us. They're coming for us. Right. It's just a question of whether they have the power.” (Navarro, 47:04)
  • Navarro alleges FBI agent Walter Giardina was involved in multiple anti-Trump “hoaxes” and calls for Giardina to be “hauled up by Jim Jordan.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On government/Big Tech collusion:

“We uncovered this leviathan of agencies that were set against the American people to censor their speech. The First Amendment doesn't allow the government to do it. And you shouldn't be able to outsource that either to these big tech behemoths...”
—Eric Schmidt, 18:12

On fighting back in court:

“Time and time again, the lesson is, if you're willing to fight, you can win. And we cannot cede the courts to the left... we got to fight on the legislative level, we got to fight on the executive level.”
—Eric Schmidt, 08:39

On redistricting and representation:

“You cannot represent folks and see them and talk to them. If you've got to travel 500 miles to see constituents, it is crazy. So it's wrong, it's immoral, it's not Democratic.”
—Unidentified Host 1, 01:30

On the cultural and political stakes:

“This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Cuz we're going medieval on these people.”
—Steve Bannon, 04:23

On running for TX AG:

“Texan's next Attorney General must have a proven record of fighting to preserve, protect and defend our legacy... I’ve prosecuted criminals and had law enforcement’s back.”
—Chip Roy, 24:49

On the cost of resistance:

“If they can come for me, they can come for you... I went to prison so you won’t have to. That’s the title of the book.”
—Peter Navarro, 47:04

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–02:45: Voter demographics, redistricting, loss of black congressional seats
• 04:23–05:36: Bannon’s “primal scream” monologue, fighting back
• 08:39–13:57: Senator Eric Schmidt on his AG successes and book
• 18:12–20:37: Schmidt exposes federal censorship with Big Tech (Missouri v. Biden)
• 21:42–23:29: Schmidt and Bannon on Ukraine, European disengagement
• 24:49–27:18: Chip Roy announces TX AG run
• 31:04–33:47: Chip Roy on redistricting, Texas GOP, fighting “corporate” interests
• 37:19–40:42: Navarro on EU trade deal, Trump’s new economic direction
• 45:01–51:47: Navarro’s prison story, the DOJ, “weaponization of government”

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Tone and Language

• Urgent, combative, populist-nationalist, with frequent references to “fighting back,” “saving the country,” and “standing up for real Americans.”
• Bannon, Schmidt, Roy, and Navarro all speak with evangelical intensity about their respective battles, portraying politics as existential conflict.

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Conclusion

This episode is a rapid-fire exposé and pep rally for the War Room audience. It showcases court battles against “the left,” the specter of government censorship via Big Tech, the new Republican/realignment economic agenda, and the enduring “lawfare” against MAGA leadership.
Senator Schmidt provides a roadmap for legal battles, Chip Roy doubles down on Texas populism, Navarro mixes policy with personal peril, and Bannon rallies for no-holds-barred battle in the courts, on the border, and at the ballot box.

For listeners unfamiliar with the episode, this summary imparts a clear sense of both the content and the fevered, fighting tone at the heart of the War Room.

Transcript

[Unidentified Host 1]

With all of this new data in the Times and get your reaction to.

[Steve Bannon]

This analysis that shows your party hemorrhaging.

[Unidentified Host 1]

Voters from several different demographics.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Well, good morning. Thanks for having me. I think it's certainly something you can't ignore. I think for some time now people in the party have ignored the trends. I thought the article did a great job of identifying the problem and you have to acknowledge the problem before you can begin to address it. I know that what I'm doing here back in Rochester is really trying to organize people, trying to get them to knock on doors and visit with community and talk to people and really engage in conversation about what voters have expectations around what things they're concerned about. Sometimes, you know, we become convinced that the things we care about is what everyone cares about and sometimes that's not the case. So we really have to do a much better job in a very granular way in a literally door by doorway. And we're organizing here in Rochester. I've literally spent every waking moment meeting with groups in the community, people, all political persuasions and stripes, to talk to them, engage with them in what they see happening. And there are real concerns about authoritarianism, but there are equally concerns about, you know, am I going to have health care, am I going to be able to feed my family or the price of goods too high. And those are the things that I think we need to address.

[Unidentified Host 1]

We have to, the Democrats have to go where we do have the numbers. And keep in mind how bad this is in terms of denying people representation. I mean, this is all about busting up black congressional districts. Let's just put it out there. They're trying to do it in Missouri to, to Congressman Cleaver, who is former mayor of Kansas City, beloved in Kansas City, has represented Kansas ably and with a lot of popularity for years. They're going to try to take away his seat in Missouri. So we'd be down to, with two major metropolitan areas. We'd be down to one black congressman in the whole state of Missouri. And that's what they're doing in Texas. They'll be down to two black congressmen or women in the state of Texas. And One district goes 500 miles. Now, I was a state representative. I can assure you, you cannot represent folks and see them and talk to them. If you've got to travel 500 miles to see constituents, it is crazy. So it's wrong, it's immoral, it's not Democratic. The Supreme Court is responsible. But Democrats have to fight fire with fire. So in every state where we can squeeze out another seat. They need to get busy and do the same thing to the Republicans that they're doing to us.

[News Reporter]

Russia is pushing back on the idea of Western nations providing security guarantees for Ukraine after the war. Yesterday, Kremlin's foreign minister said Moscow must be included in any talks about security guarantees and suggested China, Russia's ally, should be among Ukraine's guarantors. He also avoided making any direct reference to a possible summit between Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky, signaling the Kremlin may be trying to delay planning a bilateral meeting. Meanwhile, the Pentagon's top policy official reportedly told a group of European military leaders the US Plans to play a minimal role in those security guarantees. Sources tell Politico defense chiefs from the UK France, Germany and Finland are pushing the United States to disclose what it would provide in terms of troops and air assets. Politico also reporting NATO allies becoming increasingly concerned the Trump administration will rely on Europe to ensure that long term peace.

[Unidentified Commentator]

It's both a show, it's both there to kind of produce a B roll for the White House social media accounts. But it also is like, it's a legitimate, like I call it an occupation of D. It's an assault on the, on the rights of the residents of D.C. and it's also an expression of the authoritarian mindset and intent of the administration that they, they believe that they have the right to subject American citizens to this because they feel like it. And it's, it's a stunning attack on what I would consider sort of the basic privileges and immunities of American citizenship not to be subject to military occupation.

[Steve Bannon]

This is radical rigging of a midterm election, radical rigging of an election, destroying, vandalizing this democracy, the rule of law. So I'm sorry, I know some people's sensibilities, I respect and appreciate that. But right now, with all due respect, we're walking down a damn different path. We're fighting fire with fire and we're going to punch these sons of in the mouth. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Cuz we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Congressman Chip Roy]

MAGA media.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

War ROOM here's your host, Stephen k. Banner.

[Steve Bannon]

Thursday 21st August your overlord 2025 we're going to get into all this today, particularly the there's no there shouldn't not be any celebration in Texas. That's five seats. The maximalist position is 10. You see Gavin news and what's going to happen. So it's time. We're going to talk about that later in the show. If I were going to go back and get the other five. Also, Ukraine numbers are coming out in the last 24, 48 hours. Everything you've heard on TV from everybody on Fox, on MSNBC, it's all lies. The math is coming out now. And you understand what President Trump's been talking about. These horrible casualties, 1.7 million dead and wounded Ukrainians. This is why they can't get 625,000 this year alone in all the nations of Europe. The UK punched out on having any real guarantees. When Starmer got back, the Germans said, no, we're not going to do it. You know, Starmer said, we'll guard a port or, you know, the air or something. No troops on the ground, nobody at the line of contact, nobody. Poland didn't even come over. France talked big. Nothing happening. It's absolutely this this is why President Trump, the Guardian, the great Hugo Lowell at the Guardian is reporting today. President Trump kind of stepping back and saying, hey, if Zelensky and Putin Kampalfa meeting good, let him get in a room. I'm not going to be there. Bilateral. I wouldn't count on that anytime soon. I'll get into the math and break it all down later in the show. I want to start off want to welcome and thank I've been waiting a long time for this. Senator Eric Schmidt of Missouri joins us and it's his new book that we want to talk about, the Last Line of How to Defeat the Left in Court, if we can get that great title up there. Senator, I haven't had a chance to thank you for your time as attorney general of the great state of Missouri. And Missouri is a great state and I'll tell you why. It is the only state in this union that has two United States senators that are populist nationalists and putting forward the MAGA agenda every day. Your work as attorney general is unparalleled in the effort to save this Country. And this book is a must read. I want to start at the end, because you go after the Chinese Communist Party, you don't take any easy ones. You go after the Chinese Communist Party on Covid, you got the most important First Amendment case. You go after Biden, you expose everything there. But what is so important about this is your angle of attack is how are we going to win? And that's the problem. We've seen this in Texas in the last couple of days, where our last three or four weeks, where you have to goad people to stand up and fight, and finally, if you cut off all their other alternatives, they'll fight. That's not your angle of attack. Your angle of attack is to think it through and think through how we're going to win and then get on with it. So walk me through that. Walk me through just that, that, you know, perspective you've got of how do you actually beat these guys.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Well, I think the most important thing, Steve, and why I wrote the book is you have to have courage. Like, it's a lot easier in these jobs just to go to the ribbon cuttings and get the accolades or whatever. That's not me. And that's not why I ran for office. It's not why I was attorney general. It's not why I'm a U.S. senator. It's about saving the country. And I think if you understand the landscape and what I try to lay out in the last line of defense is what were we dealing with when, when, when President Trump and his allies were out of power, the left was truly on the march. I mean, they were, it was a no, they were take no prisoners mentality like they came for. Whether it's, you know, lockdowns, compulsory Covid shots, you know, blatantly open borders, DEI struggle sessions, CRT in our schools, a censorship regime, esg. All of it, all of it was coming at us. And I decided that, you know what, in that role, at that time, I was going to fight back. And we took the vaccine mandates to the Supreme Court and we won. We took the student loan debt forgiveness case to the Supreme Court and we won. We exposed the massive censorship enterprise in Missouri versus Biden. We took on 50 plus school districts for mass mandates and we won. We opened up investigations against some of the biggest banks in the world because of their ESG policies and we got them to back down. I mean, time and time again, the lesson is, if you're willing to fight, you can win. And we cannot see the courts to the left. I think for Far too long conservatives have sort of done that. It's like, oh, that's their terrain. It can't be like, we got to fight on the legislative level level. We got to fight on the executive level. It's one of the reasons why I handled the rescissions package in the Senate. We got that done. To pull back this ridiculous funding for USAID and Guatemalan sex changes and all this nonsense. I think it was important to demonstrate we're willing to fight back on that. And actually, when we defunded NPR along the way, but in the court system, I think the time is ag. It was just sort of defined by this worldwide pandemic and social unrest and the most aggressively leftist regime we've seen in the history of the country. And we had to fight back and now and really honestly kind of hold the line until the calvary could arrive. And the calvary arrived and the fever broke in November of 2024 when President Donald J. Trump kind of, you know, won again and is now delivering this historic agenda that we now have. I was really. I mean, President Trump endorsed the book. J.D. vance has got a blurb in there. It's just really gratifying. As somebody, there's no daylight between me and where those guys are at on these policy issues. And we got to approach all of this with a sense of urgency. Steve, I know you talk about it.

[Steve Bannon]

Every day, but, but, but, but you give a good sense of where they're trying to thwart the Trump revolution in the MAGA revolution is in the courts because they understand their, Their last line of defense is the courts and very aggressive. I want to go do specific cases while we got the time. First off, everybody tells you and nobody, nobody, any attorney general in, in, in. In the. Even at the federal level, nobody will go after the Chinese Communist Party. You went after the Chinese Communist Party. And to me, it's still sitting out there with like, hey, Schmidt won this thing. What are we doing here? Walk me through you going after the CCP.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

So in, in March of 2020, right? Like, when this is unfolding is, you know, you start to look. The CCP was well aware of COVID In November and December of 2019, there's a whistleblower, Dr. Lee, that came forward. He mysteriously died after he recanted what he saw about what was happening in the hospitals there in. In Wuhan. And so they. They knew it was real. They knew it was a deadly virus. They didn't want to do anything about it. They wanted to cover it up. And how did they cover it up. Well, they ended flights in and out of Wuhan domestically, but not internationally. China also became the net, the largest net exporter of PPE to the largest net importer of PPE in those months. So they knew it was going down. They didn't tell anybody. And of course the World Health Organization, which is just a puppet for, for the ccp, they helped hide all this too. So what does President Trump does? He says, look, this is crazy thing happening Wuhan, we're going to shut down flights in and out of China. He's characterized as the xenophobe in chief. Right. All this, the left did something. You started to see the Trump derangement syndrome kind of play out on that stage too. So we saw enough. And actually my Solicitor General at the time, John Sauer, who's now the Solicitor General of the United States, just a brilliant guy who's winning a lot of these lawsuits now for the Trump administration and was his lawyer in the, in the presidential immunity case too, by the way. But we said, you know what, there's got to be something here. We're reading this in the newspapers. There's got to be a lot more there. So we decided to sue Communist China, the ccp, the Wuhan Institute for Virology, for unleashing covet on the world. And it was, look, we got a lot of criticism for it ultimately. Now there's a. Steve, there's a 24 billion dollar judgment out there now that, that Andrew Bailey's now moving on to the FBI, but hopefully the new Attorney General, you can seize assets, Chinese assets now with that judgment. I hope that we're aggressive in doing that, but I think it was about, look, we're gonna, I don't care. I mean, obviously, you know, no, no harm has come to me yet. But the CCP didn't like that. But who cares? Like, I'm an American and I'm gonna fight for, you know, like this is my country and, and this is what you did and you ought to be held accountable for it.

[Steve Bannon]

It's unbelievable. And hasn't gotten the publicity. We gotta collect on that. Can you send her? I know you're busy. I just want to hold shortly through the break, there's a couple more examples and then we've got to pick your brain on Ukraine. Our audience remembers a couple of years ago, it was on a Sunday, I think it was, and we were streaming this entire, over the weekend, streaming on all our different platforms. That historic debate that Mitch McConnell is trying to jam through, that huge another bailout for Ukraine and I think it was Rand Paul Mickley and Senator Eric Schmidt and you gave a historic speech that I think at the time I remember talking to people. We had 100,000 people on a Sunday on all our different platforms watching. So we'll talk about that. Short commercial break the book is the Last Line of Defense. It is a primer on how to win in a mentality of how to win. Short commercial break Senator Eric Schmidt of the great state of Missouri next in war I got American babies. This July there is a global summit of BRICS nations. In Rio de Janeiro, the block of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Persia are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio Reset. As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US Dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollar and and your savings. While this transition won't not happen overnight, but trust me, it's going to start in Rio. The Rio Reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality. Learn if diversifying your savings into gold is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard earned savings into a tax sheltered IRA and precious metals claim. Your free info kit on gold by texting my name Bannon that's B A N N O N to 989-898 with an A plus rating with the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers led birchgold army with a free no obligation info kit on owning gold before July and the Rio Reset. Text Bannon B A N N O N to 9898. 98. Do it today. That's the Rio reset. Text Bannon at 989-898 and do it today.

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[Steve Bannon]

Okay, if you're up on Getter for free, you would have seen all my reality checks. I got up there about Ukraine. I'll get to that in a minute. Ben Harnwell from Rome is also going to join us for break this whole thing down. Senator Schmidt's with us. And folks, I always talk about angle of attack and attitude and courage. This book has got it. It's a primer on that last line of defense and it comes from the darkest days, from the pandemic all the way through when we were out of power. And it's extraordinary. And I strongly recommend everybody get this book. And I've wanted to have the senator on. We've had him on many times. I've never been able to thank him for what he did as Attorney General of the great state of Missouri. And thank God, think of that Team Schmidt. And you got John Sauer, who's, who's tearing it up right now. And now you got Andrew Bailey as deputy over the fb. Thank God for the great state of Missouri. I'm serious. Thank God for you people. No, it's such a great state. I want to go because I know you got limited time. Talk about the Biden because you're also the guy that went and exposed the reality of how in the darkest moment of how we were being suppressed by the federal government in conjunction with the big tech broligarchs.

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Sir.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Yeah. So you know, we've, Everybody saw in 2021 and 2022 this was called a conspiracy theory that conservatives were being throttled or deplatformed. And we had seen enough that Jen Psaki's at the podium talking about flagging things for Facebook. They floated this ridiculous idea of a disinformation governance board. Remember what that the Mary Poppins like figure who was going to be the head of it. And so we said, you know what, there is something here, there's something here. So we filed a lawsuit in May of 2022, Missouri versus Biden. And we named not the big tech companies, government agencies. We named Biden, we named the FBI. We named all these agencies we thought were a part of it. And we did something kind of strategic. We talk about it in the book. Steve. We didn't seek the injunction, which is to get the government to stop the bad behavior right away. We sought discovery first and that ended up being a key decision. So what did that mean? We got thousands and thousands and thousands of pages of emails, text messages. We found out there were secret portals between high ranking government officials and high ranking executives at, at Twitter and Facebook coordinating their efforts. The collusion that was happening, the coercion that was happening. We we took the deposition of Anthony Fauci, and you can read about that in the book, which was wild. We took the deposition, interestingly, of Elvis Chan, who was the FBI agent in Northern California who was pre bunking the Hunter Biden laptop story. Turns out he was having weekly meetings, monthly meetings and weekly meetings, telling them to look out for a Russian hack and leak operation in October. And Yoel Roth, who's like this integrity guy at Twitter who's left leaning, even had an affidavit saying y. He was talking specifically about Hunter Biden. So the rock that existed, cisa, which is an agency most, most people have never really heard of. We took the deposition of Brian Scully, who was talking about. Yeah, they turned that against the American people to flag. They were outsourcing to Stanford into the University of Washington. So the punchline here is we uncovered this leviathan of agencies that were set against the American people to censor their speech. The First Amendment doesn't allow the government to do it. And you shouldn't be able to outsource that either to these big tech behemoths, which is exactly what they were doing. And I think it's the most important free speech case in the history of our country. We talk about it in the book and we can't let this stuff ever happen again. And what I think the lesson here is, the playbook is if you got the guts and you fight back and you got a hunch, we ought to use the court system to expose this corruption. And that's what we were able to do.

[Steve Bannon]

What I love about you is you do not punch down. You go after the biggest and the toughest and the ones who look impossible and say, let's just get on with this thing and do it. That's the attitude we have to have. Before I let you go, Senator. Ukraine, I mean, there's been. Now it's all becoming clear with the new revelation of what the casualty rates are. And our allies are not allies. It's all talk. Not one of them are going to put anybody in the line of contact. They want the Americans to put up the security guarantees. You were on this a couple of years ago. Here's my concern. There's now $58 billion, Lindsey Graham and Cotton. These guys have a 58. The McConnell wing in the Senate, which is, I don't know, 90% of it, have a $58 billion, another Ukraine bailout going in now when it's obviously the Europeans are broke, the Ukrainians don't have any more men to fight. I mean, this thing is a debacle. I'm not sure the correct information is getting out there. What can you tell us about the current situation in the United States Senate when you guys get back after Labor Day on Ukraine? Sir?

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Well, look, I think we're. At least my perspective here is, and I think actually from the people who have a different foreign policy view than me even, are giving President Trump, he, He. He's the one who needs to take the lead here, and he is. I mean, he's doing something because he. I'm an American realist. I think we got to focus on our core national interests and pivot to China. Right. Our European allies need to step up in a much more meaningful way. It's why I went to the Munich Security Conference. I was one of, like, three people standing and clapping for JD's or Vice President Vance's, his First Amendment remarks there. But to tell the Europeans, not what they want to hear, but the truth, which is you have to step up for your own defense. And you look at what President Trump's doing, Steve, is he's really questioning all these assumptions. Like, after World War II, defeat Soviet communism, we had. NATO was created, we subsidized it overwhelmingly. It's very unbalanced. All these ridiculous trade deals were meant to get them on their feet after the Cold War ended. We never adjusted. So what President Trump is doing, he's realigning that relationship and he's renegotiating these trade deals. And it's about time. I can't believe it's taken this long to go do it. But, yes, this isn't our war. This is a war between Russia and Ukraine. And what President Trump is doing is he's creating space for them to work it out. There's no appetite, I don't think, I hope, for any additional billions of dollars for Ukraine in Missouri. One thing that no one has ever come up to me and said, you know what, Eric? The most important thing you can do is send another $60 billion to Ukraine. Not one person's ever said that to me. Now, it's a meat grinder. It's a war of attrition at this point. And Russia is like, historically, that's kind of what they do. So this is the place. And Europe better step up on these security guarantees because I think President Trump's already made clear, thankfully, that there won't be any U.S. troops on the ground.

[Steve Bannon]

Senator Schmidt, where do people get the book? What's your social media feed? Are you going to be doing. You're going to Go around and do a book launch. Talk to us about what's going to happen here because people have got to get this book and. Got it. If you're feeling the dumps, get this book and read it. This is the fighting spirit of the MAGA movement.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Yeah. The last line of defense, how to beat the left in court. You can get it on Amazon right now, anywhere books are sold. But I think honestly this book was written for, for your audience, Steve. People who, who see all these things happening and they need to know kind of the behind the scenes look of what it was like to be in the, in the, on the front lines there and what it's going to take to win the future. So I'm on Eric Schmidt. That's my social media feed and Facebook and Instagram, but we try to keep it light but a little spicy. But this is about saving the country. That's why I wrote the book. And there's a lot of lessons here and it's a playbook for the future.

[Steve Bannon]

By the way, you were on the front line in the darkest days of this republic. Senator Schmidt, honored to have you on here, sir. Thank you.

[Senator Eric Schmidt]

Thanks, Steve. Take care.

[Steve Bannon]

Senator Schmidt came from the book is about his time as ag the Attorney General of the great state of Missouri. Now we have a congressman friend of the show that's about to punch out of Congress and run for Attorney General. Let's play the ad first and we'll bring in the chip Roy Texas Forged.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

By cowboy grit and a pioneer spirit unafraid to win. From the Alamo to Goliad, Texas forefathers honored the cry for freedom. Born in colonial Virginia and Massachusetts Cementing our legacy as the Lone Star State. A place like no other. Anchored by liberty, freedom and self determination. VAT Texas, the Texas of our dreams. Our families and our forefathers is under assault. Radical Democrats and George Soros are funding DAs and Liberal judges hell bent on coddling criminals and putting Texans in danger. Open border politicians have flooded our streets, hospitals, jails and schools with illegal immigrants and dangerous Fentanyl. Empowering cartels while endangering Texans and the immigrants they use as political pawns. Liberal lawmakers are pushing to dismantle election security because fraud is their only path to power. Faceless corporations and the Chinese Communist Party have gobbled up more and more Texas land while their allies in media and academia poison our culture with woke anti American propaganda. No more. Today we draw a line in the sand. Texan's next Attorney General must have a proven record of fighting to preserve, protect and Defend our legacy. An attorney general unafraid to fight, unafraid to win. That's why I fought to secure our border and help President Trump deliver results. I've prosecuted criminals and had law enforcement's back. I've stood against radical Democrats and their un American agenda, putting Texans above corporate cronyism and global interests. I'll always defend the conservative values Texas families cherish. And I've led the fight to secure our elections, delivering real results for Texas.

[Steve Bannon]

Texans.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

From the Alamo to our collective response to Hill country floods, Texans have a long legacy of leaders willing to fight to preserve and protect our homes and communities. I'm Chip Roy, and I'm running for Attorney General of Texas. I'm running to secure our great legacy of freedom. I'm running for God, for our families and for our shared faith. I'm running for Texas.

[Steve Bannon]

Congressman Chip Roy joins us. Chip, we got a minute on this side. We're holding you through the break. Give me your pitch. That's a fantastic spot. Why do you want to leave Congress now in the middle of these fights? Your boy, Russ Vote. We need you, Chip. You're leaving us to run for ag? Why?

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Yeah, Steve, look, it is bittersweet. Russ Vote is a dear friend working with you and the great folks at War Room in order to advance the ball in D.C. but look, this is going to be the end of my fourth term. When I get through the next 16 months, I'm not going anywhere. We're going to keep up the fight. We're going to deliver for the president. We're going to deliver a majority next year by holding the line and fighting on all the issues you and I talked about. But at some point here, you got to have some churn in Washington. You and I believe that we don't think we have lifelong politicians. The good Lord opens doors for you. And I have worked in AG's office. I'm a former federal prosecutor, and I believe it's time to come home. And my experience during the Kerrville floods, being with law enforcement, being with all the great leadership here in our communities, my kids are 14 and 15. Texas is central to the future of America. As Texas goes, so will freedom and so will America. And I'm coming home to fight for Texas. And I will. I will stay tight with my friends in D.C. and my freedom Caucus brothers and sisters.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, so Congressman, you're gonna be with us for all these fights because September is going to be an absolute debacle as they go up to midnight on the 30th. However we need and you know when Paxton it was the 1st, it was the 20th of January, 2021 in the afternoon we had Ken Paxton on here and Ken Paxton said, hey, wherever the Biden administration is by the Constitution, we'll work with them. Wherever they're against the constitution, the state of Texas will take the lead. And Ken Paxton did, I think a fantastic job of doing that. But the react check we've had like let's talk about the redistricting. You've got Gavin Newsom now running for president on his thing over there where they got 40% of the 42% I think of the state is Republican votes. Republican. It's a 52 seat delegation. We only have nine seats now. They're going to take five more back. It's going to be 48 to four. That's the way they play. They play smash mouth. We should have a Texas 10 here, we got five. And everybody else on Fox, they're skipping around how great it was. But the audience here knows that this was done at the tip of the bayonet of the activists. Trump just won Texas by 14 points. If you Go run for attorney general. Is source really your biggest enemy or the locked in business interest of the Republican Party there? That's really basically centrist Democrats, sir.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Yes, Steve. First of all, great. By the way, following Eric Schmidt, I just wanna point out how important it is to have a good AG like Eric who took on all the mask issue, took on all the issues involving, you know, Obamacare. Ken Paxton has done the same thing. Ken Paxton has fought, you know, porn industries, fought big corporations. He's fought to defend Texas against the long reach of Obamacare, fought to secure the border. We need fighters like that. And look, to your point, I would just say this. My message in Austin has been we need to be as aggressive as the White House is willing to push for. And you know, the White House pushed for five. And so right now my view is, well then move the 5 through, but if we can go more, go more. And so that's what I've been saying with my friends in the state legislature. Legislature, go as far as you can go. I think we could be a little more aggressive in Texas. There's no doubt. But right now they're moving the maps. That's what the White House asked for. And you need an AG who's going to defend the maps straight up. And I've worked those cases. I was in Washington when we were fighting the Voting Rights act reauthorization. As a lawyer, we worked hard to set the table. It was our research in the Judiciary Committee that helped form the basis of section 5 getting struck down because of the hard work we did. I've been doing it for a lifetime. We fought that stuff. When I was in the AG's office before and Congress, we've been working hard to make sure we do the right thing and we can stop the race based gerrymandering that's been destroying our ability to have real representation. Zach, Texas, look at all these blue states up in the northeast who have nothing but Democrat representatives because they've been gerrymandering. As you said, smash mouth, we need to fight them and we need to be aggressive. Couldn't agree with you more. We got to get past these sort of corporate run town in Austin. Look at the budget, it was not good. We've got criminals on our streets, we have cartels that have too much influence and we have too many people making decisions here who aren't fighting to get the right thing done. But look, Ken has been fighting hard against that. I want to carry that forward and we'll do that.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, I think where people are shocked is that, you know, Texas is, I say this and we love Ohio and Florida and these other places are fantastic. But the railhead of MAGA is in that hard bitten Texan. That's the railhead of this movement. And to know that state in Austin, the state is not that conservative the way it's run. It's just not. I mean, it's actually on property, everything. It's shocking what's happened here. So hopefully you can clean the thing up. Tell me about your campaign. Where are you going to? You're starting today, but where are you going to go? What's this? Knowing you as long as I've known you, from the time I think you were Ted Cruz's chief of staff, you're a grassroots guy. So tell me about your campaign.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Yeah. Tomorrow I'll be out with the Tea Party talking about the SAVE act that I introduced in Congress to ensure that only American citizens voted American elections. We passed that out of the House. The Schumer Democrats blocked it.

[Steve Bannon]

It.

[Congressman Chip Roy]

We're going to be out there talking about our need to go even further. I'm working with our mutual and good friend Cleta Mitchell to draft another round of legislation. I'm not going anywhere in the house for 16 months. I'm going to be fighting alongside you guys, Russ Boat and everybody else and we're going to deliver for the president, make sure we build the majority. I'm going to be on the road meeting with some good activists in Tyler this Saturday all over the state that I've been working with for two decades while we've been trying to move forward to build this conservative movement. I've been a part of it from the beginning, Steve, as you know, meeting in the basement of Tortilla coast with the founding members of the Freedom Caucus, before the Freedom Caucus even existed. When I was Ted Cruz's chief of staff before, it was cool to be where we are today. And I've been fighting that and, and will continue to do that. And I'm going to be all over the state. Obviously, I've got a day job. I'll be up in Congress, you know, the week after Labor Day. But we've got to deliver up there and we need to hold spending flat or reduced when we have the big spending fight in September. And I'm not going to shy away from that. I'm going to be an honest broker with that as I was and trying to get the big beautiful bill delivered. It could have been better, but I think we delivered some real good spending restraint and frankly, four or five hundred billion dollars of elimination of those ridiculous green new scam subsidies. But we got to go further, Steve. You and I talked about it in Congress. And then as aggressive. We've got to be aggressive in fighting. Look, Western civilization is under assault. We cannot have Sharia law in Texas. We cannot have open borders, no matter who's in the White House. We got to fight the invasion. We got to go file litigation to fight that. We got to stand up against property taxes and the confiscation of people's wealth. We can do a lot here if we're aggressive.

[Steve Bannon]

Chip, where do people go to find out your fight that we're going to have in September on the budget and on the appropriations. And where do they go to your campaign site for the. For ag?

[Congressman Chip Roy]

Well, absolutely. It's chiproy.com. you can follow me on Twitter @ChiproyTX. That's chiproytx. Or I should say on X. I always do that. And we'll be out there. We're gonna be putting the message out. Deeply appreciative of all you've done in your service for this country, Steve. I can't say enough what your stand and going to. Going to prison and standing up in defense of our values, what that means. And deeply appreciative of the entire possibility.

[Steve Bannon]

No, I got the easiest job in the world. I got a platform. We provide access to guys like you. And we got the greatest audience in the world of activists. Thank you, Chip. Appreciate you. Keep that Twitter feed hot. Blessed see you back in D.C. chip Roy, running for the Attorney General. The great state of Texas, replace Ken Paxton, Ken's runner for the United States Senate. Some polling data out overnight. I think Ken's lead is a little tightening. That's going to be a big one down there in Texas. And of course, Eric Schmidt went from the A.G. a historic run as A.G. of Missouri, and now the United States Senate. Talking about prison, by the way, three fighters. You got Eric Schmidt, Chip Roy, and I got my brother, Dr. Peter Navarro. Before I talk about your prison time, Dr. Navarro, did you guys finally make a deal with the eu? Am I correct in Bloomberg? My terminal's blowing up. A massive deal that you worked on, on. On the eu. Do we finally have a deal with them?

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Not only do we have a deal with the eu, Steve, it should put to rest any criticism whatsoever anywhere in the universe of Donald Trump and his tariff policies, because this works for both Europe and the US but it works for Europe because it levels the playing field and it puts an end to this I mean, let's think about what this EU deal looks like. First of all, we get to keep the global reciprocal tariff on at 15%, which is designed to reduce our trade deficit, but we get to keep 15% tariffs on the EU. Autos used to be two and a half. And they were selling. Germany was selling us seven cars. Very one, we sold them. We're getting full access to their agricultural market, which they've kept away. So our farmers are going to be really happy. They're going to spend $750 billion on LNG imports. So that'll help our drill baby, drill segment of our economy. They're going to spend another 600 billion investing here in strategic sectors and they're going to buy a lot more of our defense weapons, which will help the heartland throughout this country. So this is called running the table in pool. It's just amazing deal. So I think we're happy about that and the American people should be elated.

[Steve Bannon]

I want to talk about attitude and courage, angle of attack. Like we talked with Schmidt. When I came on the campaign In August of 16, you were already there. You were the principal advisor for trade manufacturing. Remember when I got there, I think we did shift it a little more so that you had a bigger role. This is why we won. The principal reason I think we won the behind the blue wall of Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania, which people were laughing at us in mid August, we couldn't do it is because the policies that you were working on, getting advice outside with guys like Lou Dobbs, but really focused on manufacturing and trade. But even given the first term, which was so historic and what you and Lighthizer tried to accomplish on the big overall deal with the Chinese that the Chinese blew up In May of 19, there is a total difference in the second term. I mean, President Trump has really thought through, with your assistance, the total reorganization of world commerce using tariffs, but tariffs also as an aspect of potential economic warfare and using it in a positive sense to redo the entire world's commercial system, to put America at the center of it. What has brought about that change in the out years? What was it you and President Trump worked on that because. And when we got in the second time, everybody mocked you, everybody mocked President Trump. It was all going to be a disaster. The economy's going to implode, but they ain't laughing now. So tell me what, what, what is the difference this term than last?

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Well, inside the perimeter here, the difference is we don't have to fight A lot of people who are trying to tear down the Trump agenda in the first term. It was war. Steve, you were there. You know what it was like. We had just a lot of bogeys in the House. I remember one day I was in the Roosevelt Room with the boys. He had every single cabinet member as well as top advisors like Gary Cohn in there. And he was wondering why the tariff policy wasn't going anywhere. And he went around the room and asked him whether they supported tariffs. The only person in that room who supported tariffs with the boss was me. And that was an epiphany for him. He got moving faster on that because he realized there was trouble in the House. We don't have that kind of crap this time, full stop. We've got Jameson Greer, who's a very seasoned trade negotiator. He knows how to like do this. And we're doing every country by a set of verticals. Tariffs, non tariff barriers and a whole bunch of other stuff. You got Scott Besson over at treasury, who you and I know well and consider a friend who sees the chessboard like a chess master. Not quite like the boss, but Scott's right up there. Howard Lucknick has been a breath of fresh air. He's brought kind of the creativity of Wall street with the MAGA edge on. He's fully committed now to trade policy. And Donald Trump above all is the leader of this band and he's got no fear this time around. And we have the advantage here. Steve, I think the one thing that really helps this time around is that all the panic ins out there in the Wall Street Journal on down who claim that the tariffs are going to cause inflation, recession and chaos, they said the same thing first term and it didn't happen. So we got the credibility of street cred and we got over 100 billion already in the bank. And Steve, the tariffs, a guy like Stephen Moore drives me nuts. I just want to say this to Stephen. I said it in a tweet the other day. It's like every time he says, anytime Stephen Moore says that tariffs are a tax cut on consumers, he hurts the Trump trade policy and it's just false. What tariffs are right now are tax cuts and debt reduction. Steve, we're gonna.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah.

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Get over 2 trillion. No, I think it's $2 trillion. We're gonna raise the next 10 years.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah. Hang on. We're gonna take a short break. I think Moore says their tax increase. We're gonna take a short break. Return with Peter Navarro in his prison tale. You missed the IRS tax deadline. You think he's just going to go away. Well, think again. The IRS doesn't mess around and they're applying pressure like we haven't seen in years. So if you haven't filed in a while, even if you can't pay, don't wait and don't face the IRS alone. You need the trusted experts by your side. Tax Network usa. Tax Network USA isn't like other tax relief companies. They have an edge, a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which ones to avoid. They use smart, aggressive strategies to settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. Whether you owe $10,000 or $10 million, Tax Network USA has helped resolve over $1 billion in tax debt and they can help you, too. Don't wait on this. It's only going to get worse. Call Tax Network USA right now. It's free. Talk with one of their strategists and put your IRS troubles behind you. Put it behind you today. Call Tax Network USA at 1-800-958-1000. That's 800-958-1000 or visit Tax Network USA tnusa.com Bannon do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you. Do IT today.

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Steve Bannon]

By the way. So it's, it's Steve Moore, who's a friend of all ours, but he keeps arguing that, and this is the mentality of the Republican Party that tariffs are like a tax increase on consumers, just not true. Dr. Peter Navarro and Donald Trump are proving that every day. It's been extraordinary, a hat tip on the EU deal. People said it could never be done. You done did it. So extraordinary work there, Dr. Navarro. Now I want to pivot for a second because you're not only you and Miller are the two longest serving advisors to President Trump. And you guys have been in the trenches in some of the darkest days. And both of you guys are. Yeah, Scavino. Yeah. Well, Scavino I consider because Scavino's different. He's like an operator. I mean, what he does with that video footage and what he's made, he's become a master filmmaker. You guys have been in the trenches on the policy side in some pretty dark days. And guess what? On immigration, on sealing the border, on deportations, on everything you've done on trade and all the time. And we got many tough fights ahead, particularly with the Chinese Communist Party. But you're also a cultural icon now because you stepped up, would not flinch, would not bend at Nancy Pelosi. And now we're finding out the criminality of the J6. You went to prison, particularly at the advanced age. I'm saying it here for the first time. I've never said this. I've always said Peter Navarro is my younger brother. He's only younger in his biological clock because he's a maniac about working out. He's actually my older brother as far as age go. Talk to us about the book and particularly the title of the book. And I'm very honored that it's a war room book and we're going to have a huge rollout for this, but the title is gripping. You went to prison. You, Dr. Navarro, went to prison. So the audience doesn't have to. What did you mean by that? Why did you title the book that you think we still live in as dark of times, that potential prison after President Trump leaves in later years, that could still be an issue for the MAGA movement, sir.

[Dr. Peter Navarro]

There are no questions, Steve. If this goes to the Democrats in 28 or the Democrats get the House, the subpoenas start flying, everybody's at risk. I went to prison so you won't have to. That's the title of the book. Subtitle is kind of interesting, A Love and Lawfare Story in Trumpland. The title is a tagline from, from the speech I gave at the Republican National Convention the night before Donald Trump was nominated. And what was interesting about the speech that night is literally that morning about 2am I had gotten out of prison, got on a plane, came up to Milwaukee. But what I meant by that I went to prison so you won't have to means that I'm your wake up call. If they, they can come for me, they can come for you. And look, everybody in the war room knows they're coming for us. They're coming for us. Right. It's just a question of whether they have the power. And one of the things I do and I went to prison so you won't have to is identify this guy. Walter Giardina, very important player here for America. He's great. A guy that put me in leg irons and handcuffs took me down with four other armed agents at Reagan National Airport when they could have just as easily called me on the phone and said, hey, Navarro, go down and report. They didn't do that. It was a total circus arrest. Like Mar A Lago raid was a circus event like what they did to some others in Trumpland. But what's interesting, and there's a article that popped yesterday that I wrote at Breitbart. And the reason why it's important is because this guy Giardina is the thread across the weave of the tapestry of the weaponization of government and the deep State and the RINOs against Donald John Trump since he was a candidate in 2016. And you see this guy, FBI agent Walter Giadana, former because Cash Patel fired that SOB. Good for him. But you go across the arc and the tapestry of this, Steve, and it starts with the Steele dossier in 2016. This was the fake Clinton research that set the whole Russia hoax going. And guess what? Giardina was one of the FBI agents that vetted it and cleared it and said it wasn't fake. So start there. That begat Crossfire Hurricane and the Russia hoax. Now, at the same time, Steve, I don't know if you know this. There was an Egyptian hoax going on they called Crimson River Red Messari. It was an operation run with the help of Geodino. All this is alleged by whistleblowers, by the way, that Chuck Grassley got out. And what they alleged was there was a $10 million contribution to Trump campaign. I mean, it was total false, but it allowed Giardina and the FBI and DOJ to go after. And then Giardina goes over to the Mueller investigation, serves there. Mysteriously, everything disappears from his laptop. Got wiped clean. Shades of Hillary Clinton. That's a felony if he did it on purpose, by the way. And then there's another thing, Steve, the emoluments clause. I don't know if you remember that, where they tried to get Trump for taking money from foreign governments or people paying stuff at the Trump Hotel. It's totally bogus. It was just a fishing expedition. He was there and then. And then, Steve, the worst one, in many ways was Arctic Frost, because that's the one that came the J6, the electors issue, the whole controversy over the election. And that one not only was went after Trump and Pence, but it did ensnare and cause misery and millions of dollars in cost to a lot of people we know and love. You know, John Eastman and Jeff Clark at the top of the list. There was others, Rudy as well, Jenna Ellis and so on. Buried the lead, by the way, because the Crossfire Hurricane one was that got Mike Flynn out of government. So it's all laid out in the Breitbart thing. But the point, I think, is that if you understand the arc of that history, you understand the interconnections in this conspiracy that spanned all the way from Obama and Clinton, all the Way to the day. Donald Trump won this latest election. And this guy, he needs to be more than fired. He needs to be hauled up by Jim Jordan. Sure grass, no grass is going to haul them up.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on for a second. I'm going to hold you through the break. Dr. Peter Navarro is with us on his new book, He Went to prison, I went to prison, so you don't have to. It's extraordinary for an extraordinary individual, a fighter. Been with President Trump from the beginning. Just extraordinary. And no Giordano, he's got to be charged with felonies. He's got to go to prison. He should know that. We're working overtime to make sure you do, dude. And all your other colleagues, Dr. Peter Navarro, we're also going to talk about what's happening in Jackson Hole. Get some ideas from Dr. Navarro right now. Take your phone out and text Bannon B A N N O N at 989-898. You get access to from Birch Gold, the ultimate and free guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. It's a time of turbulence. You got the brics nations trying to destroy the US Dollar and the United States fighting back. Understand what it all means for your family and your own finances. Birchgold.com short break. Back with Dr. Navarro in a moment. What if he had the brightest mind in the war room delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War Room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets, Jim predicted Trump's Electoral College victory exactly 312 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, MoneyGPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos. Bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes, and even threats to national security. Right now, War Room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go to rickardswarroom.com that's all. One word. Rickards War Room Rickards with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's rickardswarroom.com do it today.