Episode 4743: CDC Walkouts Over RFK Jr. Firing; Ending The Ukraine War And Preventing War In Iran

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room, Episode 4743

Date: August 29, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Main Topics: CDC Walkouts, RFK Jr. Controversy, Ending the Ukraine War, Preventing War with Iran

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Overview

This War Room episode, hosted by Stephen K. Bannon, delivers a rapid-fire review of several ongoing crises at the intersection of policy, politics, and national security. The conversation pivots across four major fronts:

1. The faltering state of the Ukraine war and its global implications.
2. The tumult within the CDC, RFK Jr.'s shakeup as HHS Secretary, and resignations of senior staff.
3. A heated debate about accountability within gender medicine, triggered by a recent tragedy involving a trans-identifying shooter.
4. The European "snapback" sanctions on Iran and risks of US entanglement in another Middle Eastern conflict.

Bannon's signature confrontational style and sharpened populist tone set the stage, drawing in an array of expert guests to dissect these issues—each segment marked by urgency, skepticism of mainstream narratives, and a call for grassroots vigilance.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ukraine War: Turning Point Approaching

[00:35-06:51] Guest: Jim Rickards, Financial Expert

• Loss of Momentum for Ukraine:
  Bannon opens by warning of Ukraine’s dropping morale and material shortages. Jim Rickards pinpoints the fall of Pokrovsk—an essential logistics hub—as the looming event likely to force open surrender talks from the Zelensky government.

  "When that city falls... that'll be the wake up call." —Jim Rickards [01:55]

• Fed Uncertainty & Trump’s Role:
  The Fed faces turbulence over board member Lisa Cook’s disputed status post-Trump firing, possibly invalidating forthcoming rate cut decisions. Gold's price spikes, echoing market anxiety over unprecedented legal ambiguity.

• Pattern Recognition over Numbers:
  Bannon reminds listeners to focus not just on gold prices but on the larger patterns driving value.

  "It's not the price of gold, folks. It's the pattern recognition of what drives the value of gold." —Stephen K. Bannon [05:30]

2. Gender Medicine & Media Accountability

[07:13-22:27] Guests: Greg Gutfeld (clip), Dr. Jill Simons (American College of Pediatricians)

• Greg Gutfeld’s Critique:
  In a monologue, Gutfeld lambasts what he calls the "trans cult," laying blame for a tragic school shooting at the feet of activists, doctors, and media enablers.

  "You created a poisonous program that twisted young minds for destruction. A nihilistic place to be when you deny biology and they have nowhere to go." —Greg Gutfeld [08:17]

• Doctors’ Role in Trans Care:
  Dr. Jill Simons echoes Gutfeld, labeling gender-affirming interventions “malpractice,” arguing for a return to biological reality and strict medical honesty.

  "It's extremely cruel to tell a child that they're born in the wrong body and it's dishonest and it's malpractice." —Dr. Jill Simons [09:29]

• Media “Cover-Up” Alleged:
  Bannon and Simons call out mainstream outlets for avoiding discussion of the shooter's regrets expressed in a manifesto, urging for transparency, investigation, and legal accountability for parents and physicians involved.

• Calls to Action:
  Dr. Simons directs parents and physicians towards declarations and resource sites pushing back on “harmful protocols,” highlighting deep fissures in the medical community.

• Memorable Moment:

  "They need to look at the doctors and they need to investigate who was caring for this child, what was being prescribed... because we know better. We have the evidence that they do harm." —Dr. Jill Simons [13:31]

3. CDC Shakeup: RFK Jr., Walkouts, and Culture War

[22:28-35:36] Guests: Dr. Joseph Ladapo (Florida Surgeon General), “Gray” (analyst)

• CDC in Turmoil:
  Several senior CDC staff resigned following RFK Jr.'s firing of its director. Bannon frames this as a needed cultural purge and a test of RFK Jr.'s leadership.

• Vaccine Policy Divides:
  Dr. Ladapo emphasizes deep-seated dogma within the CDC regarding vaccines, likening recent staff rallies to “cult” behavior.

  “CDC staff were greeting them like Clemson greets their football team... I mean, it was like a cult meeting.” —Stephen K. Bannon [29:36]

• Leadership Needed:
  Ladapo suggests effective reform requires strong new leadership capable of returning the CDC’s focus to science, objectivity, and transparency.

  "You just need good leaders in there. I mean, that's, that's the only way you can, you can advance this." —Dr. Joseph Ladapo [26:34]

• RFK Jr. Under Fire:
  Bannon warns that the establishment is mobilizing to remove RFK Jr. as HHS Secretary, which will demand a coordinated, aggressive defense from supporters.

4. Iran: Snapback Sanctions and the Risk of War

[36:03-46:41] Guest: Trita Parsi, Quincy Institute

• Europe Initiates UN Sanctions "Snapback":
  The EU triggers a mechanism to restore UN sanctions on Iran, which can't be vetoed by Russia or China, creating a high-pressure 30-day window for negotiation before sanctions are re-imposed.

• Stalemate Over Nuclear Talks:
  Parsi doubts either the Trump administration or Iranian government are ready for genuine compromise; forced, hasty talks will likely fail and become a pretext for military escalation.

  “If they start talks now with a 30 day deadline, it is more likely to fail. And as a result, the pressure on Trump from the Israelis and others will then amass significantly...” —Trita Parsi [37:44]

• Geopolitical Shifts:
  Europe’s calculations have changed—they no longer depend on Iranian oil, view Iran as complicit in Russia's Ukraine campaign, and are seeking to curry favor with U.S. hawks.

• Monitoring for War:
  Parsi recommends closely watching the snapback process for signs of escalation, warning that manufactured crises could push the U.S. into another Middle Eastern war.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the CDC’s Institutional Culture:

  "It's not irredeemable. I mean the right leadership can show people which direction to go and help them understand why other beliefs are important."
  —Dr. Joseph Ladapo [30:47]

• On Parent & Physician Accountability in Gender Medicine:

  "The mothers retained defense counsel... She's an accessory. She and the father... as are the physicians that attended and created this monster." —Stephen K. Bannon [18:43]

• On Manipulation of Medical Committees:

  "The CDC did not give any of the data they presented to the committee until about 24 hours before... to try to jam this through."
  —Gray [33:22]

• On Sanctions and Geopolitics:

  "Europeans know that the transatlantic relationship is extremely strained... By taking this move, endearing themselves with the elements in the Trump administration that are very hawkish... this will then help them manage other tensions..."
  —Trita Parsi [41:00]

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Important Timestamps

• [01:55] Jim Rickards forecasts the fall of Pokrovsk as the war's turning point.
• [05:30] Bannon discusses gold prices as a symptom of broader economic fear.
• [08:17] Gutfeld's monologue on the dangers of gender ideology.
• [09:29-13:31] Dr. Jill Simons’ sharp criticism of affirmative gender treatments.
• [22:28-32:09] Dr. Ladapo on CDC resignations, the organization's culture, and the leadership vacuum.
• [36:49] Trita Parsi analyzes the EU’s snapback sanctions and the danger of rushing diplomacy.
• [41:00] Parsi on European motivations and altered transatlantic priorities.

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Resources & Calls to Action

• Biological Integrity / Doctors Protecting Children:
  • Education and resources challenging gender-affirming protocols: biologicalintegrity.org
  • American College of Pediatricians: acpeds.org
• Dr. Joseph Ladapo: Book: Transcend Fear: Blueprint for Mindful Leadership and Public Health
• Trita Parsi: Analysis & updates via @tparsi and Quincy Institute

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Tone and Perspective

True to the War Room style, this episode maintains an urgent, combative, and highly skeptical posture towards existing institutions, elite interests, and mainstream media narratives. The “primal scream of a dying regime” (Bannon [00:02]) mantra captures the show’s overarching mood—a warning that the system is crumbling, reform must be radical, and average citizens must be vigilant in demanding accountability.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode offers a sweeping, contentious tour of today's front-page crises, driven by a cast of insurgent experts and pundits. If you’re seeking unvarnished, provocative insider takes on geopolitics, medical controversies, and the underbelly of American bureaucracy, Bannon’s War Room will spark debate and arm you with talking points—whether or not you agree with its conclusions.

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Transcript

[A]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going.

[B]

Medieval on these people.

[A]

Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[C]

And where do people like that go.

[A]

To share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[C]

I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[A]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, welcome. It's Friday 29th August, your overlord 2025. Teeing you folks up for the weekend, the Warren Posse. Things to think about. Put on your agenda too, Jim. I know we're press for time, so are you. You gotta bounce. Two quick things. Number one, Ukraine after President Trump has the chaperones, they go back, it's all a joke. They don't have the manpower, they don't have the arms, they don't have the money and more importantly, they don't have the political will. Putin, and you know, Lavrov's quite dismissive of the Western media trying to question where they're going. And Putin and the Russian army are pounding Ukraine relentlessly. At what time? What is going to be the event you're going to look for when people actually start to talk about Zelensky and this crowd sitting down and either talk about a surrender or just, hey, the war is over, we'll cut a deal and we get what we get because there's not going to be any security guarantees. Pretty obvious this is not going to happen. Your thoughts, sir?

[D]

It'll be the fall of a city called Pokrovsk. Now, Petrovsk is a medium sized city. It's not the biggest city in eastern Ukraine, but it is a major logistics hub, rail, highway, supply depots, etc. That Ukraine uses to basically supply their entire. From Ukraine's point of view, the eastern front and the line of contact. So when that falls and people say it's a stalemate, it's not a stalemate. The Russians are very methodical. They've spent a year surrounding it, taking every village all the way around it, so there's no way in and no way out. And then they go in for the kill. They'll give them a chance to surrender. But Zelensky says you've got to fight to the death. And Russians like, okay, bring it on. And, and so, but that when that city falls and that's getting set up. The other big battles, you know, Mariupol in 2022, Bakhmut in 2023, in 2024, here we are. 2025 is going to be the battle of Pokrovsko. So that'll be the wake up call. Hey, Steve, if I, if I could just drop a quick footnote on the Fed situation. Mike Davis gave the high level brilliant legal analysis. I'm down in the trenches a little bit more.

[A]

Sure.

[D]

There is a fed meeting, an FOMC interest rate policy 17th. The expectation has always been that they're going to cut rates. They, they cut rates at the end of 2024. They haven't cut them at all in 2025. And Trump's been banging the table about that. We're set up for a rate cut on September 17th. What about Lisa Cook? I mean, is she on the board of governors or not? Trump fired her. She's claiming she's still on the board. She's going to be in the room. The Fed punted. They said we'll abide by the court. So that's a way of doing nothing. They should have sent household housekeeping people to clean out her office. So does her vote count? Is there a vacancy? And if she votes for the rate cut and then is subsequently determined that she was fired, does that void the meeting? I mean, this is all unprecedented. By the way. I'm asking these questions, but when I say this has never happened before, but. So that uncertainty factor surrounding whether she is or is not a member of the FOMC and the board of governors is now affecting the market since one of the reasons Gold just hit an all time high today might have backed off a couple bucks, but it ticked 3501 earlier in the trading, that, that is an all time high.

[A]

Go 3500. Yep. Yep. One last question. The arguments seem to be, they're very narrow. They're saying that you did, you know, is this pretext to fire? They're really arguing about, you know, she maybe made clerical errors. You don't have the ability to fire her. Your point is, if she's not fired and not removed, does it still count as a legitimate open market meeting? And they're talking about rate cuts now. Waller, one of the governors, is saying he's seeing a 50 basis. He'd back a 50 basis point cut. Your thoughts, Jim Rickards?

[D]

Well, that's right. So they meet for two days. One day the closed door and they talk about the next day they announce what they're actually doing. And there is a division. You got Waller and Bowman, who are two Trump appointees. 150. I think Powell will go along with 25. So you're going to get a good debate about that. We'll see what happens. But they, my guess, well, my, my forecast is 25, but there is a debate about 50. You're right about that. But there's already one vacancy on the board of governors. It hasn't been filled yet. Trump. The White House has mentioned Steve Moran which would be a great choice. And now do we have a second vacancy in the form of Lisa Cook because of her on set certain legal status? Again, we don't know the answers to these things but the, the uncertainty itself is what's driving the markets right now. And this is just a flight of gold because they give me some gold until you, you people figure this out. So it's pretty, pretty crazy.

[A]

Yeah, gold hit an all time high in the first hour. Hit 3500. Backed off a little bit. Remember, it's not the price of gold, folks. It's the pattern recognition of what drives the value of gold. That's what you got to learn. We're not people are not trying to sell you a fish, they're trying to teach you how to fish. Jim rickards rickards war room.com you can learn there with strategic intelligence. Why should people go and get your.

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[A]

That's why our audience loves you. Sir Jim, thanks for taking time before holiday weekend. I asked you to come on some tee up people think about a bunch of Things over the weekend. So thank you sir. Appreciate you.

[D]

Thanks.

[A]

Jim Rickards. I didn't get a chance to talk about Venezuela, but I'll do that. Trita Parsi is going to join us about Persia. We're going to talk about Venezuela. Also very important. I got a cold open. Greg Gutfeld, I think nailed it yesterday as he often does. Let's go ahead and play this. I'm bringing my next guest.

[C]

This is why none of these a holes can lecture anyone on compassion. The most compassionate people on this planet are trying to stop the trans delusion. The least compassionate are the people in the media, academia and politicians who enabled this hysteria of horror. What is so glaring about the trans cult? Apparently your identity is the only thing that matters. Until you do something awful, then it's the least important variable. Then you look at everything else, you talk about guns, but suddenly it's all of a sudden like oh, we can't talk about that. What was it the other trans shooter that they actually hid her in this manifesto that this creep wrote. He said he was tired of being trans and that he had wished he had never brainwashed himself. What more do you need? Straight from the monster's mouth. Politicians, activists, teachers, you built this. You could have listened to the warnings. We were talking about this on this show for years. You amplified a hysterical, a hysterical, literally hysterical phenomenon that was going no place good. You created a poisonous program that twisted young minds for destruction. A nihilistic place to be when you deny biology and they have nowhere to go. So all of these media arguments, what you're seeing there among those people, it's to escape their own culpability and the reality that they created. So forget the layer of mental illness and gun control. The origin of the evil. The evil lies in the creation of a mindset that indulged a delusional self ruining connections with fellow human beings. So that trans by ascribing extreme aggrieved mentality then gets directed against society. So this person feels justified in killing children. His killing resulted from that ideology. And if you don't believe that, you're one dumb.

[A]

Dr. Jill Simons joins us. The executive director of the College of Pediatricians Doctor is Greg Gutfeld. Right, ma'. Am.

[E]

First, thanks for having me on Steve. And also my deepest condolences to the families who lost children in this tragedy, including the shooters family and the whole Annunciation family and my greater Catholic family here in Minnesota. But he's right. Greg Gutfeld is right that it is extremely cruel to tell a child that they're born in the wrong body and it's dishonest and it's malpractice. And where do you go from there when you, when you tell a child that?

[A]

Why did we, you know, we watched, we curate for the audience, you know, msnbc, cnn, BBC, the New York Times, Washington Post. All day long they were talking about everything but this. And they never brought up the fact, they never really got into the manifesto and they never brought to the fact that this young guy regretted this, deeply regretted it. Why did they do that? Why did they cover it up so much? What are they afraid of? What's the media afraid of in talking about this topic?

[E]

So let me speak to the pediatricians because I think they are driving this, the doctors in my profession and many people are afraid to tread. They're not experts, so they don't want to comment. I think that's maybe where it starts. But my focus is on the pediatricians. And we know, doctors know, we have the evidence these so called gender affirming care treatments do not improve the mental health outcome of children suffering, questioning their sex, they don't decrease suicides, they just, they don't. And we know that they harm. So doctors know better. And parents and everyone else comes to us for our expert opinion, our expert advice to tell them what to do for their child who is struggling. And we need to be honest with these parents and these children. You know, I tell patients, I tell them things they don't want to hear all the time. They're overweight, they need to exercise more, they have diabetes, they have cancer. You can't lie to a child that they can be any sex they want. They're either a male or a female. And then what happens is that they, they don't question why a child is struggling with this. And so the whole underlying problem is ignored. And I think the media is just echoing voices. They're hearing this ideology and it needs to come back to the doctors because the doctors can stop this today, they can stop this this afternoon, they can stop prescribing these hormones, these puberty blockers, they can stop doing surgeries, they can stop recommending that this is how we treat children.

[A]

And at your open, you had condolences not just for the families of the children and the school and people at Mass, but also the shooter's family. I don't want to sound too harsh, but why are the pediatricians that work with this young guy and why are the mother and father not accessories to murder? Ma'? Am.

[E]

So first of all, I have no knowledge of the medical care that or mental health care that the shooter may or may not have received. I know what you all know, but I can tell you from families that this tears them apart. And again, these parents are coming to their doctor trying to figure out, okay.

[A]

Doc, doc, I got that. I got all that. Just read this guy is voluminous in his manifesto and thank God, now we've got FBI people that will let this manifest so not have to wait for two years. It's very clear if you read this and you look at these hideous videos he made, he had thought this thing through and it was a cry for help about what they had done to him, the pediatricians, his doctor and his parents, he couldn't have been clearer. So once again, I know you're not a lawyer, but aren't they accessories to the murder of the young kids in the in that church?

[E]

Ma' AM yeah, they need to look at the doctors and they need to investigate who was caring for this child, what was being prescribed. It's not just about investigating these drugs. It needs to be investigated who's doing this and holding them accountable because we know better. We have the evidence that they do harm. We don't know what all these hormones do, frankly, but we do know that they cause harm. And it doesn't take a doctor to tell you that they shouldn't be receiving doses of hormones of the opposite sex in these quantities.

[A]

Doc, hang on for one second. We're just taking a short commercial break. This manifesto is heart rendering when you read it, and chilling and beyond scary. It's incredible. And thank the authorities for putting out the videos and putting out the if you have not had a chance to read it, I'll make sure Grace and Mo collect this over the weekend. You ought to read this. We talk about the transgender ideology all the time. Listen to what Greg Gutfeld said. He Absolutely 1,000% nailed it. And this has got to be vetted now or it's going to continue. It's not going to stop until you make it stop short. Commercial break Back in the War in just a moment. American Park I got American faith in America. According to the Department of Energy, blackouts could increase by 10,000% over the next few years. It's because of massive energy demand from artificial intelligence data centers. We talk about that all the time here in the war room and we have a fragile power grid. It just cannot keep up with that demand. I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea of being without power even for a day that's why I got the grid Dr. 3300 from my patriot supply. It's a powerful solar generator that runs refrigerators, AC units, medical devices, power tools, anything you need to write out a blackout. And right now, for their Christmas in July event, they're including over $1,000 in free survival gear with your generator, including emergency food supply, water, filtration, survival tools, and more. You heard that, right. Over a thousand bucks in free gear for a limited time. Head to my patriotsupply.com Bannon. That's my patriotsupply.combannon. and grab the Christmas in July bundle before it's gone. Blackouts are coming. Go to my patronsupply.com Bannon and get prepared today.

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[C]

This is why none of these a holes can lecture anyone on compassion. The most compassionate people on this planet are trying to stop the trans delusion. The least compassionate are the people in the media, academia and politicians who enabled this hysteria of horror. What is so glaring about the trans cult? Apparently, your identity is the only thing that matters. Until you do something awful, then it's the least important variable. Then you look at everything else. You talk about guns, but suddenly it's all of a sudden like, oh, we can't talk about that. What was it? The other trans shooter, that they actually hid her identity in this manifesto that this creep wrote. He said he was tired of being trans and that he had wished he had never brainwashed himself. What more do you need? Straight from the monster's mouth. Politicians, activists, teachers, you. You built this. You could have listened to the warnings. We were talking about this on this show for years. You amplified a hysterical, a hysterical, literally hysterical phenomenon that was going no place good. You created a poisonous program that twisted young minds for destruction. A nihilistic place to be when you deny biology and they have nowhere to go. So all of these media arguments, what you're seeing there among those people, it's to escape their own culpability. And the reality that they created. So forget the layer of mental illness and gun control. The origin of the evil. The evil lies in the creation of a mindset that indulged a delusional self ruining connections with fellow human beings. So that trans by ascribing extreme aggrieved mentality then gets directed against society. So this person feels justified in killing children. His killing resulted from that ideology. And if you don't believe that, you're one dumb.

[A]

So doctor, this is a teaching moment. If we lose it because you're going to. You have the perfect. You have the perfect storm here including voluminous manifesto from the, from the, from the, from the, from the monster himself. And Gutfeld right there nails culpability and that you built the monster. Who built the monster were the parents and the, and the doctors that treated him. Right. And that's why the mothers retained defense counsel. She's to me, she's an accessor. She and the father, father can't bail on this. They're accessories to murder, as are the physicians that attended and created this monster. And the monster is telling you in his manifesto he's crying for help, saying I brainwash myself. Brainwashed. I want to undo this. You know, the last thing I got is to cut my hair. Somebody's got it. They have to be held accountable for what they created and the actions of the monster that they created. Ma'. Am.

[E]

Yep. Steve, my focus is on the physicians and as a physician I can talk one to one toe to toe with them. They need to look at what they are recommending for children. It's not right. Our colleagues in Europe, uk, they're stopping this. We have the evidence, there's enough evidence that they are harming children. So it needs to stop with the doctors. Absolutely. They need to look into who is behind this. It says in his manifesto, like I said, I know what you know, but they need to look into what was going on, who was treating for this child. And they hide behind these protocols that they say are consensus that were developed by frauds and wpath, frankly. And they hide behind those and say it's consensus. Well, I'm executive director of an organization and we are strong. We've got signatures on the doctors protecting children declaration that it's not consensus. There are pediatricians all over the country, all over the world that do not agree with these protocols and we're being silenced. So it needs to come out. They need to be exposed for promoting these harmful protocols.

[A]

Because now it's. They made it everybody else's problem, by the way, He's a grown ass man. Right? This guy's an adult. He's a man. He's a man. He's a grown man. That's what's got to be brought up here. And you can't call him by the name and the girl. He's not a girl. He's a man. He is a man. Okay. A monster who was created by these physicians, his parents, also himself. But like he said, he wish he hadn't brainwashed himself. Just absolutely despicable. And the media covering up for this and the whole thing in the New York Times. What's the motive? Incredible, doc. Where do they go to your organization to find out more information about this? Because now we gotta. You gotta take this on. People have tapped this thing along long enough and now it's in all the, all the, all MSNBC up there crying for the victims. Don't cry for the victims. Let's get justice for the victims and make sure it doesn't happen again. And it's not about the guns. Has nothing to do with the guns, ma'. Am. Where do people go?

[E]

Yep. If people want to help, they can sign the Doctors Protecting Children declaration and support the brave doctors who are speaking out. They can also go to biologicalintegrity.org it's a website with resources for parents to educate themselves and pediatricians to educate themselves on the truths about these puberty blockers and these hormones and the appropriate way to care for children with gender dysphoria. And finally, the American College of Pediatricians. We're a trusted voice for what's best for children. We believe in evidence based medical care for children. They deserve the best. And that's acpedes.org Dr. Simons, thank you.

[A]

Thank you for what you're doing for these kids too. Appreciate it. Thank you, ma'.

[E]

Am. Thank you for having me.

[A]

Somebody go to that site and if Grace and Mo can help organize, people ought to read the manifesto, all of it, and see all the videos. One of My favorite guys, Dr. Latipo, joins us from Florida. Sir, explain to me what's going on with Bobby Kennedy because you're the guy during the. You're the guy during the pandemic that had the most bravery and the most heroism of anybody. And we would have you on all the time. You took incoming from everybody. Right. They were coming after you like nobody's business. We know in the MAHA movement where we want to go with the science and the radical transparency. So just explain to us what's happened over the Last couple of days with these four subalterns, senior people at cdc, resigning, the director now being fired by the White House. Exactly what's going on.

[B]

Yeah, this was coming. I was waiting for this to happen. It had to happen. And you know, you think back to the pandemic and you think about how terribly things went with the cdc. A lot of dishonesty about science, a tremendous amount of dishonesty about science. And Americans paid the price with, you know, with school closures, bad studies supported that, with masking kids, bad studies supported that with shutdowns and with promotion of this poison that is, you know, that people call an MRNA COVID 19 vaccine. And the CDC has been behind that, you know, like from the beginning. So this had to happen. Like, this had to happen. And I mean, I wasn't surprised at all. Even as you've seen Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Working hard to make changes. And, you know, he's, I know a lot of people want to tell him what to do and God bless him, keep telling them what, keep telling them what you want him to do. But I also, I'm certainly, I have a lot of empathy for the fact that it's tough to be there at the head of an organization and what's the strategy and how do you implement these things? So, you know, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. He's taken, I would say, sort of an incremental but kind of decisive steps, right. Making sort of deliberate steps to move us closer to scientific truth and, you know, and freedom, which is critical.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's like, if that doesn't matter, nothing matters. And you know, and the CDC is the one place where he has not been able to make any progress with that. So it had to happen either, like, either he brings, he brings forth his vision of what the country needs or the people. The leadership of the CDC and the culture of the CDC stays unchanged. Unfortunately. It's, you know, we see the leadership leaving. So the culture is going to change. It has, it's, it's the only way to bring forth the future that Robert F. Kennedy and I'm sure President Trump want.

[A]

So this is only going to be resolved by the science, by looking at data and science. And I think that's the question to get her confirmed and 30 days later understand that she doesn't support the program of having gold or platinum level science and radical transparency and then having the four people who are the four key people at CDC all say they're going to resign kind of now it makes it about Bobby Kennedy. So when you think about this, what are we talking about as far as the science goes? They talk about mRNA and I still get on them that they didn't put out enough information about that decision. That decision is fundamental. We agree with it. But you've got to put forward information. You just can't make assertions. You have to put forward information. What are you looking for? Since you've been in the combat of this from the beginning and they tried to destroy you and your career, what would you like to see that could make the case to say, okay, here's how we're going to do it. Here's how we're going to do it in the future, and we're going to restaff with people that understand that. Sir.

[B]

Honestly, Steve, there is a lot of research out there already, and more research absolutely needs to be done. You know, we've talked, I think together, we've talked about this issue of DNA contamination and whether there's a risk of integration with the human genome, for example, something that the CDC has never touched. So there is a lot of, there is a lot of science out there already and more needs to be done. But you just need good leaders in there. I mean, that's, that's the only way you can, you can advance this. So I think it was yesterday, there was this rally, if you will, with a bunch of CDC employees leaving their office and going to support these leaders that, that, you know, that have resigned. And, you know, I listened to what they had to say and they're just, there's this, there's this, you know, this, this cultish relationship with vaccines and people, this leadership is just unable to objectively evaluate science. And when it comes to vaccines, it's just the. There's only one possible answer. And if the science doesn't agree, then the science needs to be bent. So you need good leaders who can objectively look at the science.

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Hey, Doc Hanger for one second. We're just gonna hold you through the break. Dr. Joseph Ladipot joins us from the great state of Florida. Short commercial break we're gonna return to the war in just a moment. If you're a homeowner, you need to listen to this. In today's AI and cyber world, scammers are stealing home titles with more ease than ever. And your equity is the target. Here's how it works. Criminals forge your signature on one document, use a fake notary stamp, pay small fee with your county, and boom, your home title has been transferred out of your name. Then they take out loans using your equity or even Sell your property. You won't even know it's happened until you get a collection or foreclosure notice. So let me ask you, when was the last time you personally checked your home title? If you're like me, the answer is never. And that's exactly what scammers are counting on. That's why I trust Home title lock. Use promo code [e-mail] to make sure your title is still in your name. You also get a free title history report plus a free 14 day trial of their million dollar triple lock protection. That's 24,7 monitoring of your title, urgent alerts to any changes and if fraud should happen, they'll spend up to $1 million to fix it. Go to hometitlelock.com now. Use promo code Steve. That's hometitle lock.com promo code Steve. Do it today.

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Here's your host, Stephen k. Ban.

[A]

Okay, Dr. Latipo, you mentioned we don't clip them. Maybe we'll play later. But the, when the four resigned, they were, the CDC staff were greeting them like Clemson greets their football team and they go on the football field. I mean it was like a cult meeting. That shows you that it's much deeper than just the four. It's the entire. This is why I keep saying. But it sees the institution, the CDC so far gone, you got to kind of start over again. First off, would you. Are you open to take over CDC right now? Jim o', Neill, the deputy at HHS is doing an interim basis. But are you open to, Are you open to do it, sir?

[B]

Oh, that. Well, no one's talked to me. No one said anything to me. RFK Jr is a friend of mine. You know, if, if they were interested in that, I would certainly take it seriously. It would be a great honor. I have to talk to my wife and all and my kids and all that stuff. But you know, whoever they pick, they need a very strong leader because like you said at this rally, I mean, you know, they look like there were hundreds of employees out there and it's not irredeemable. I mean the right leadership can show people which direction to go and help them understand why other beliefs are important. Another way of thinking about things are important. Not everyone's going to come along, but the right leadership can make a difference. But that's critical. That is like absolutely critical.

[A]

Where do people go to find out more about you? Because this is going to become quite heated. I know you're going to have a very specific point of view which has to happen to cdc, I say you got to take it down to its, the deck plates and rebuild it because it's so far gone. And that rally yesterday shows you that. Doc, where do people go on your social media website to find out about your fight? You've been fighting on this in the front lines for years now.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And Steve, I'll just say briefly, I agree with you, but there are a lot of good scientists too. So there's a lot of talent there. Even in that leadership that left. There's a lot of talent there. They just, they can't see straight once it, once it comes to vaccines. Like, it's just like all the intelligence just steps out of their brain and it's like, and, and, and they can't think straight anymore. So people can look up my book Transcend Fear Blueprint for Mindful Leadership and Public Health, and it's available on Amazon and, and I'm on social media also. So, you know, so yeah, you can check, folks can check that out.

[A]

Sir, thank you so much. Appreciate you coming on here. I've got Greg Delaney by phone. Gray, can you give us some idea of what's happening, of where we're going on this? Right, because I think it's caught everybody. Look, it's long needed. I just don't. The process of getting somebody confirmed and then, you know, instead of getting rid of the four initially, let them sit there and now we're in a jam. And here's my concern, is that Bobby Kennedy is the, is the leader of the Maha movement and they're coming after him hard. I mean, it started last night. It's, it's increasing. And I'm telling they're going to get Cassidy, they're going to get some of these Republicans in the Senate. And when we get back next week, there's going to be a firestorm to remove Bobby Kennedy as Secretary hhs. And we're going to have to man the ramparts and make sure that doesn't happen. Sir.

[F]

That's exactly right. And even an example, and Dr. Lapido talked about, you talked about the vaccine issue at cdc. It's not just, oh, they go crazy with the vaccine issue. They hid the football. At the last ASIP meeting, there was a vote on the RSV monoclonal antibody vaccine or treatment and they manipulated the data. I know for a fact the CDC did not give any of the data they presented to the committee until about 24 hours before, which is not nearly enough time to review it in order to try to jam this through. It ended up getting voted on and approved 5 to 2. Retsep Levy, Dr. Levy and Dr. Plebsworth were the two that voted against it. That should never have gone through. And so there is such a culture of corruption at the cdc. It has to, as you said, it has to be completely dismantled from the top to the bottom. But they've got a message. I mean that's been out in a few substacks what happened with that vote. But this had the air. There has to be sunshine. And they have to go out publicly, principles from HHS on war Room and on cnn, on MSNB everywhere and take this message and explain the American people how corrupt it is and how we'll be pounding.

[A]

But don't you agree that that rally yesterday with the four shows you it's more than just four. They've hired people that believe. I mean it is a complete ideology and you're either going to get rid of her or you're not. And that's why we have to go all in and say, okay, it seize the institutions. We have to take CDC back down to the deck plates and rebuild it. Otherwise you're just kidding yourself. You're going to have these mutinies all the time. So we have to do it and we have to get on. We have to go on offense. We either go on offense or you're going to lose Bobby Kennedy, to be brutally frank about it, sir.

[F]

No, that was what Trump. I think the biggest change from the first administration of this one is he had people like Mike Pompeo and all these subversives, Tillerson and Ether that were undermining, leaking and it was a miracle that he got through and he got impeached twice. So they're doing the same playbook to rfk and that's why it is absolutely critical that he be out in front and he can't be the only one. It has to be a completely united front from hhs and they've got some phenomenal people there to make the case. But it cannot be tepid. So it's got. You have to lay out the scape of the American people because I think the American people and the American people are on secretary Kennedy's side 100%.

[A]

We just got to get the information out all weekend. I'll be putting it out. Next week's going to be a firestorm about this topic. Gray, where do people get you now that you've got more freedom? Where do people go on your social media to actually understand what's really going on?

[F]

ALEPPGD on X. And then we'll look forward hitting the ground running when we get back to D.C. here for busy September.

[A]

Great. Thank you so much. Appreciate you. This one's going to be Amanda Ramparts, folks. Absolutely huge. Trita Parsi joins us now from the Quincy Institute. So Trina, here's the question came on the other day, made this incredible case how we got to get very focused or we're going to get dragged in. They're going to try to drag us into Netanyahu's regime in Jerusalem is going to try to drag us into a shooting war with the Persians sometime between late September and December, the secondary sanctions. Walk me through what's happening right now because you've got another concern about this. I actually happen to think this might help us. But walk through the snapback, the triggers, what's going on technically around this very topic.

[G]

Thanks for having me on again, Steve. So the Europeans began the process of reimposing snapback sanctions at the UN this is a mechanism that was included in the Iran nuclear deal, which meant that any member of the JCPOA could make a move to bring back all of the previous UN Sanctions on Iran and the Russians and the Chinese could not veto it. It takes 30 days. Europeans have chosen to do it now because in October it actually expires. Had they not done it now, they would not have the possibility to do it, although there wasn't a possibility for an extension of this. The reason why I'm concerned about this is even if the Europeans are saying, look, we're doing this because we want to push for new negotiations, I personally don't think that that is actually their intent. But let's for a second assume that it is their intent. Part of the reason why I think this is going to be really challenging is because I'm not seeing any readiness yet on the US Side or on the Iranian side to actually have successful negotiations. They're too far away from each other on the core issue of enrichment. If they start talks now with a 30 day deadline, it is more likely to fail. And as a result, the pressure on Trump from the Israelis and others will then amass significantly that because talks But President Trump, help me out here.

[A]

Hang on. I actually think the snapback in that because I think that's economic warfare and I think if you applied it, you could have your regime changed by the Iranian people as the system got the economy got out of control. But correct me if I'm wrong here, and you're the expert, President Trump's he's taken a Firm stand. They had an enrichment program. He actually believes in a sense of urgency. We don't, but that's fine. He did a expeditionary force strike of Tomahawk missiles and of course, our amazing bombers out of Omaha. He believes, and he says it over and over again, total obliteration of their enrichment system, full stop. And he's not going to back off that. So how can we, how can they use that to try to edge us into some sort of conflict?

[G]

Because you will see new accusations claiming that the Iranians are doing X, Y and Z, or that some part of the program is still there, or the mere fact that the Iranians are not agreeing that the whole program has been obliterated and that they're claiming that they're going to restart it at some point and go back to enrichment because they consider that to be their national right. So I'm personally not of the view that there is a lack of pretext and excuses. I think we have seen so much happening in international relations based on false excuses. The question is, will he stand firm enough and say, look, I already resolved this issue, so I'm not going to touch it again. If he manages to do that, then perhaps this will not bring about that type of confrontation. But keep one thing in mind. One of the demands of the Europeans for the Iranians to the Iranians in order for the snapback not to be completely fulfilled again, there's a 30 day window here, is that they restart negotiations with the Trump administration on the nuclear issue. If Trump's view is that this is already resolved, then why are the Europeans then pushing for the talks to restart? Particularly mindful of the fact that our Secretary of State is actually endorsing and pushing the Europeans to do this. So my concern is that this is going to create this type of a need for quick negotiations when neither side is ready. There is no appetite for compromise on either side. It will fail and then the push will be because of the talks having failed. You have to go back to take military action.

[A]

So one thing you might want to look at for in the next 30 days.

[G]

Yeah. So one thing I want to add about the considerations of the Europeans because I think we have to be a little bit careful. Yes. Twenty years ago, when the Europeans stepped into this, they actually did it. And I wouldn't give them credit for it because the Bush administration went into Iraq. It was a disastrous war. It was a huge mistake. And the Europeans wanted to prevent the war to extend into Iran and having a complete regional war. And that's why they created this whole constellation of the E3. Today, however, the geopolitical circumstances have shifted. The European calculations have shifted. On the one hand, they don't need Iran in any way, shape or form any longer because they're no longer buying Iran in oil. All of these sanctions have led to a situation in which there's no economic interdependence whatsoever between Europe and Iran. So Iran is not that important. Secondly, Iran supported Russia in Ukraine and that means that for the first time, the Europeans actually view Iran as a direct threat because they view Russia as an existential threat, right or wrong. And there's a desire to punish the Iranians for having supported Russia against Ukraine. Thirdly, they know that the transatlantic relationship is extremely strained. They know that, you know, from the US side, we're tired of paying for their security, tired of the Ukraine war, tired of their lack of willingness for some sort of a compromise to end that conflict. So by taking this move, endearing themselves with the elements in the Trump administration that are very hawkish, the neocons that are still in there, I think their calculation is that this will then help them manage the other tensions that exist in the transatlantic relationship because of the deep divisions that exist on Ukraine and Russia. So has actually less to do whether they actually believe that this is going to bring about some sort of a diplomatic end to the crisis with Iran.

[A]

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[G]

Sir, I would keep a very close eye on this discussion about the snapback. And if we see that leading to further escalation, rather to some de escalation, then I fear that it will be more escalatory. And in that you will then see the pressure and arguments saying that the Iranian nuclear program is still there. Trump did not finish the job, all those different types of arguments in order to lay the deck for its massive pressure campaign on Trump to go back into war.

[A]

Okay, we'll keep an eye on that. Also, I want to have you back next week. I want to delve down on the issue of, you know, what's in broad daylight. 80% of China's, the CCP's energy needs are from Iranian and, you know, Persian oil either directly sold to them against these sanctions or on the black market. And there's a whole host of reasons people don't want to address it, but it shows you then, hey, if you think they got a nuclear enrichment program, you think they're so serious, then this has to be addressed. You can't look the other way. Trita, in the interim, where do people go to Quincy Institute? Your social media is a little bit on fire every now and again. Where do folks go?

[G]

If they go to my Twitter, it's tparsi@twitter on X. Go to the Quincy institute, which is quincyinst.org that's the website and I think it's the same handle on X as well.

[A]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you.

[G]

Thank you so much for having me.

[A]

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[A]

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[H]

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