Episode 4744: Victory On Rescissions; Stopping Illegals From Destroying American Trucking

Summary

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Bannon’s War Room: Episode 4744

Date: August 30, 2025
Main Theme:
This episode centers on two main topics: the Trump administration’s move to rescind $5 billion in foreign aid (“pocket rescissions”) and escalating concerns over the impact of illegal immigration on the American trucking industry. Additional discussion covers the Federal Reserve’s accountability and major geopolitical developments involving Russia, China, and India.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Federal Spending Cuts: The “Pocket Rescissions” Move

Guests: Eric Teetzel (OMB), Dave Walsh (co-hosting), Stephen K. Bannon (host), Bradley Thayer (commentator)

• Historic Action: The Trump administration has issued a $5 billion “pocket rescission”—the first of its kind in 50 years—targeting the “worst examples of foreign aid,” often routed through NGO contracts for projects like “climate mitigation” and “global LGBTQ awareness programs.”
  • Eric Teetzel: “For the first time in 50 years, a president of the United States has taken this important step to actually cut federal spending.” (08:00)
• Intent: These rescissions aim to cut off what is described as a “slush fund” for progressive priorities abroad, with the money returning to the Treasury.
• Process and Constitutionality:
  • The action follows the Impoundment Control Act (ICA), which requires the president to request Congress to approve rescinded funds—a process Teetzel and Walsh criticize as “utterly unconstitutional.”
  • Eric Teetzel: “The President should never have had to go to Congress to do this. But right now, that is the law of the land.” (08:24)
• Legal Battle Expected: Lawsuits are anticipated, but the administration feels confident that, since these funds are clearly within executive foreign policy authority, the move will be upheld.
• Scope:
  • Funds primarily benefit left-leaning NGOs, not U.S. federal workers.
  • Eric Teetzel: “It’s being spent by NGOs who contract with the government to do their work. It’s essentially laundered to left-leaning policy advocacy organizations.” (10:13)
• Allegations of Waste and Potential Illegality:
  • Examples of past grift and illegal activity are mentioned, including unsubstantiated references to “Chelsea Clinton’s wedding being paid for by global aid money.” (11:14)
  • Teetzel claims it’s “only a matter of time before all of that is brought to light and people start to pay the consequences.” (11:38)

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2. The Federal Reserve: Independence or Unaccountable “Fourth Branch”?

Discussion by: Dave Walsh & Eric Teetzel

• Constitutional Question: Debate about whether the Fed operates under Congressional, Executive, or no explicit authority, leading to deep “unaccountability.”
• Bannon’s Stance (Paraphrased by Guests):
  • The Fed functions as an unaccountable “fourth branch of government.”
  • Dave Walsh: “It’s a fourth branch of government that’s not accountable to anyone.” (13:46)
• Historical Context:
  • Past failed attempts to “audit the Fed” by Senators Jim DeMint and Ron Paul, often stymied by both parties’ establishments.
• Executive Push: Trump’s administration is attempting to assert more control over the Fed.
  • Eric Teetzel: “The President is rightly saying, the Fed sure appears to fall under my executive authorities. And as President of the United States, I’m going to exert my authority to control the Fed. It’s exactly what he should be doing.” (13:00)

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3. Illegal Immigration: The Trucking Industry Crisis

Guest: Shannon Everett (representing American truckers)

• Industry Disruption:
  • Massive influx of drivers from third-world countries (Ethiopia, India, Ecuador, Honduras) into trucking—especially in sanctuary states—has allegedly depressed wages, sidestepped regulations, and made U.S. highways less safe.
  • Shannon Everett: “Countries like Ethiopia, India, Ecuador, Honduras… [are] flooding the American trucking industry… They’re not bringing in labor that’s competitive to the American prevailing wage.” (17:39)
• Regulatory Evasion & Safety Issues:
  • Widespread manipulation of electronic logbooks, driving hours far beyond legal limits, and falsifying documentation.
  • Example: Crash in Terrell, Texas, where a driver manipulated logs and shipment data (19:00).
  • Shannon Everett: “We have video evidence now of non-citizen truck drivers driving down the road being dispatched by non-citizen dispatchers overseas… they never stop. They work around the clock.” (19:00)
• Accountability:
  • Many firms involved are small operations, but billion-dollar brokers indirectly enable violations.
  • Everett calls for increased legal scrutiny over brokers, shippers, and the identity of crash-involved firms.
  • Shannon Everett: “Who hired these guys, who were they working for and what were they hauling?” (23:23)
• Call to Action:
  • Everett urges state-level reforms: stronger English proficiency laws, tighter licensing standards, and public accountability for brokers.
  • Shannon Everett: “Just because California wants to be radical doesn’t mean we have to accept that.” (24:30)
  • Contact: Truckers and the public should visit www.americantruckers.com or follow @ATUTruckers for advocacy or to report abuses.

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4. Geopolitics Update: Ukraine War and China-India-Russia Dynamics

Guest: Bradley Thayer

• Ukraine Conflict:
  • Ongoing humanitarian crisis and continuous Russian attacks on Kyiv, with growing urgency for a diplomatic settlement.
  • Thayer suggests “Switzerland-style” neutrality for Ukraine as a potentially viable endgame, but warns Ukraine will “have to accept… territory is going to have to be lost.” (38:44)
• Russian Motivation:
  • Putin’s primary motivator is NATO’s proximity to Russia, echoing a “Monroe Doctrine” logic.
  • Dave Walsh: “Putin, it seems to me, went to war for one reason… You’re not going to be on my border.” (36:43)
• China, India & Global Power:
  • Forthcoming Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) summit spotlights China’s growing efforts to consolidate anti-American alliances with Russia and India.
  • Modi’s attendance at the SCO but absence from Xi Jinping’s WWII parade signals distinct limits to China-India cooperation.
  • Bradley Thayer: “There are natural limits to how far that cooperation can go… India has its own interests.” (41:45)
• Outlook: Trump administration seeking “entente” with Russia to align against China, the “main threat.”
  • Thayer warns that while economic and diplomatic ties among US rivals will persist, fundamental differences will limit their anti-US unity.

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5. The Ongoing Fight at the US Border

Guest: Ben Berkwam (live from near the Laredo border checkpoint)

• On the Ground Trends:
  • Red states (like Texas) aggressively enforcing immigration laws; many illegals reportedly self-deporting under new pressure.
  • Sanctuary jurisdictions remain attractive to illegals, as enforcement there is minimal or absent.
• Industry Upset:
  • American truckers find it increasingly difficult to compete due to illegal labor undercutting wages and skirting rules (“It’s like third world mentality has been imported into America.”) (45:37)
  • Ben Berkwam: “Regulations have increased on [citizen truckers]. It’s harder for them to get loads… you’re competing with people that don’t follow the rules, they don’t follow the laws, they don’t get the insurances, they don’t get the bonds.” (45:37)
• Federal and State Coordination:
  • Joint operations by ICE, Border Patrol, and federal air marshals are underway; numerous flights deporting single adult males back to Central America.
  • Ben Berkwam: “The enemies within our nation, the same organizations that were profiting off the invasion… are the ones trying to protect them from being deported now.” (47:21)
• Call to Action:
  • Urges MAGA base to “continue to share the information” and “win at the ballot box.”
  • Ben Berkwam: “America’s on our side… Don’t believe the mainstream media. Charge ahead, we win this thing. But you can’t sit down.” (51:25)
  • Contact: @BenBerkwam, Frontline America Substack

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Federal Reserve Bias:
  • Dave Bratt: “I went to Grok, right, which is Elon's shop, and asked… is there a leftist bias or a liberal bias to the Fed? And oh my word, it went off…” (04:20)
• On Pocket Rescissions:
  • Eric Teetzel: “We’re not giving you this slush fund money anymore to advance your progressive priorities. We’re cutting it off, and we’re sending it back to the Treasury.” (06:41)
• On Trucking Industry Safety Crisis:
  • Shannon Everett: “We have video evidence now of non-citizen truck drivers… manipulating the electronic logging device and changing their time. And so essentially these guys never stop.” (19:00)
• On the Geopolitical Stakes in Ukraine:
  • Bradley Thayer: “Sadly, Ukraine is going to have to accept the hard facts of international politics where territory is going to have to be lost.” (38:44)
• On Sanctuary States & Enforcement Divide:
  • Ben Berkwam: “You’ve got a huge number of people self-deporting… but you also have a flight into the sanctuary community… they feel like they’re going to be protected there.” (49:27)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Federal Spending & Rescissions Discussion: 05:09 – 13:00
  • What rescissions are, foreign aid focus, legal and constitutional context.
• Federal Reserve Deep Dive: 13:00 – 14:59
  • Historical lack of oversight; executive authority debate.
• Trucking & Immigration Crisis: 17:39 – 25:02
  • Effects of illegal immigration in trucking, regulatory evasion, safety issues, calls to action.
• Geopolitics Update (Ukraine, China, India): 31:59 – 42:51
  • Humanitarian impact in Ukraine, frameworks for settlement, limits of China-India-Russia alliance.
• Border Crisis—On Location Report: 45:37 – 51:53
  • Real-world effects of enforcement, sanctuary states, calls for increased activism.

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Engaging Takeaways

• This episode sharply criticizes longstanding structures like the Fed and USAID for lack of accountability and left-leaning policy bias, asserting unprecedented executive action is needed to break decades-old practices (“first pocket rescission in 50 years”).
• The hosts and guests link immigration enforcement to immediate, tangible effects on public safety and industry health, especially in trucking, supporting their argument with specific examples of regulatory evasion and tragic incidents.
• Geopolitical analysis paints a sobering picture of diminished Western leverage in Ukraine and the complex, competitive relationships among China, Russia, and India, with an emphasis on the need for realistic diplomatic solutions.
• The show closes with calls for grassroots activism and political engagement, underlining the belief that “the people are on our side” and that policy—and the nation’s future—will be determined by turnout and vigilance.

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For action, advocacy, or sharing information:

• Trucking/Immigration issues: www.americantruckers.com (@ATUTruckers)
• Border & enforcement reporting: @BenBerkwam (Frontline America Substack)
• Geopolitics: @BradThayer (X), Truth Social

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Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

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[Dave Walsh]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Bradley Thayer]

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[Dave Walsh]

War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. All right, everybody, welcome to the War Room. Dave Bratt studying in for the great Stephen K. Bannon. He was going on off today on the Federal Reserve last night. You saw, I interviewed Peter Navarro, the great Dr. Navarro, great commentary on the Fed. So today we got Eric Teetzel coming up. But before he comes on, I did some crack research. I saw some clips yesterday of, of the Great Senator Jim DeMitt on the Senate floor years ago trying to audit the Fed. And he and I both were numb to, you know, this deep state shenanigans. Now, now in retrospect, we see the delay tactics, the stall tactics by the parliamentarian and the rules. He was shut down on the floor by the establishment creatures. And we're going to get some clips on that probably next show. But I brought up with Peter yesterday the leftist bias built into the Federal Reserve System. And I know a lot of you War Room fans and Steve's really into this. You heard him on today's show digging down deep on the appointment of these new governors and Article 3 project, is the Fed constitutional? Who are they under? Are they under Congress, Are they under the executive, et cetera. And the reason this matters is, you know, I've been bringing up for years on the show, I think there's a leftist tilt on the Fed. I don't think there is. I know there is. So I Google, I went to Grok, right, which is Elon's shop, and asked Grok, the great supermind in the sky, hey, is there a. I first, I first asked that the leftist bias, all sorts of stuff come up. And then I, you know, to be fair, I'm fair and honest on the war Room. And so I said, is there a conservative bias at all to the Federal Reserve bank in their policy? And it said, no, we couldn't detect any evangelical Bias, no. Religious bias, no. Libertarian bias. And Elon is the brain. I wish that was behind it somewhat, but it appears not. And so then I said, is there a leftist bias or a liberal bias to the Fed? And oh my word, it went off. And so I'll just read you a few. You can Google this. Oh, underneath the conservative bias, it said there are some correlations with conservative policy which are interesting. The first one of importance is the first conservative policy is maintaining price stability. That's a joke, right? If you don't get that, you got to study more because that, that, this is, this is called a conservative bias. Right. When they find you're trying to keep inflation low, which is the Fed's mandate, they called that the conservative bias by these new artificial intelligence models on the liberal bias, the leftist bias that said. Oh yeah, all sorts of stuff. They engage with topics like economic inequality, climate change, racial equality, gender disparities, etc. Analysis benefiting historically disadvantaged groups, narrow employment, wage gaps by sex, race, ethnicity, education, climate change. No shocker. The Federal Reserve, particularly under Governor Lyell Brainard before her departure in 2023, has explored climate related financial risks. This is new to me. I did a PhD in this stuff. I'm way behind the times. 2020 speech by Brainerd emphasized that climate change could impact bank balance sheets through credit market liquidity and operational risks, advocating for frameworks to assess these risks. So I hope they use data in those analyses because I'd love to see that. And then I could go on and on about San Francisco and Atlanta and whatever, but here with us to assess the Fed. And before we get that, Eric Teetzel is with us and he's with Russ Vogt and the great work over at MB over at omb and he's coming on to assess first of all these things called rescissions. We got some good news today, I think across USAID issued by Russ and some news on rescissions. And so Eric, let us have it. Give us, give us. Are we making any progress on cutting the spending down in the swamp?

[Eric Teetzel]

Well, thanks Dave and thanks as always for having me here on War Room to talk to the posse. And thanks for the, the relief to know that Skynet is not yet upon us. That's, that's a great way off of my mind.

[Dave Walsh]

Yeah.

[Eric Teetzel]

Today was a big day today. The President and Russ votes sent over to Congress a pocket of about $5 billion in rescissions. The President also announced that Russ vote would be taking over usaid which if you saw what he did to Elizabeth Warren's Consumer Financial Protection Board. You will know that this is very good news for those of us who are concerned about the nefarious activities that have been happening over at USAID for a very long time. And this rescissions package, which is actually the first of what we at CRA have been calling a pocket rescission in 50 years. For the first time in 50 years, a president of the United States has taken this important step to actually cut federal spending. And it's not just $5 billion, it's $5 billion of the absolute worst examples of foreign aid. You know, I don't know if people have been buying Powerball tickets. I think it's up to $800 million every single year. Is Powerball for the worst people in the universe who get this USAID money to do things like fundamental LGBTQ awareness programs, climate mitigation efforts in far fung places all around the world, absolutely none of which have anything to do with our foreign policy interests. And so in this package, the President and Russ are saying, we're not giving you this slush fund money anymore to advance your progressive priorities. We're cutting it off, and we're sending it back to the Treasury. Now it's 5 billion. We'd all love for it to be 50, we'd all love for it to be 500 billion, and we know it's out there. The key here is that this hasn't happened in 50 years. Next week, you're going to hear all kinds of alarm bells going off about what the President is doing. It's illegal. It's unprecedented. All of which is nonsense, but the reality is they're definitely going to get sued. And so by focusing this step on absolutely tenable grounds, the President and his role as Commander in Chief and as the head of American foreign policy has every right to look at these programs and determine that they have not been faithfully executed, as is his constitutional mandate, and to hold those funds. I'm sure the President and his awesome team of lawyers are confident they will prevail in court. And so once they win that case and set the firm ground for pocket rescissions and other forms of rescissions and impoundments, then the ball's really going to start to roll.

[Dave Walsh]

Yeah. Great job. Hey, give us a definition of these rescissions. First time in 50 years. What is a rescission? And then, you know, we've been talking all week about not only USAID. Give us a link to any of the NGOs that are funded. Is that Part of this story. And then the United nations is that tied in at all. But first of all, what is a rescission?

[Eric Teetzel]

Great question, and forgive me for walking out a little bit. Presidents have always had the Constitution constitutional authority to impound funds. In 1973, the Deep State took down Richard Nixon and at the low point of the presidency, they were able to get through a series of laws to unconstitutionally bound the President's constitutional authorities. One of those laws was called the Impoundment Control Act. The Impoundment Control act lays out a process for the President to send to Congress examples of funding that he would like to rescind. And then they have the authority to either approve or decline the rescissions that the President has proposed. All of this is utterly unconstitutional. The President should never have had to go to Congress to do this. But right now, that is the law of the land. And so a rescission is an example of the President sending to Congress a list of monies to rescind in line with the Empowerment Control Act. Until we get rid of the ica, this is the way that the executive branch can cut spending. A pocket decision which is a version of that rescission I just described is one in which no matter what Congress says about it, because the funding expires within 45 days and because the President, when he proposes the rescission gets to withhold that money for 45 days, it's essentially held all the way until it expires, which means it can't be spent no matter what Congress does. So that's what's unique about what happened today. It's a nice little way of applying the law and opens the door to big changes to come. Now you asked about.

[Dave Walsh]

Yeah. Foreign aid to NGOs, UN any other linkages like that?

[Eric Teetzel]

Yeah, 100%. All of the money that's being rescinded is not spent by, by actual federal employees. It's being spent by NGOs who contract with the government to do their work. It's essentially laundered to left leaning policy advocacy organizations who are doing nonsense stuff overseas via these contracts. And so that's where we're cutting off the pipeline.

[Dave Walsh]

Yeah. And you know, when you tell the American taxpayer their money's been used to fund left wing things, I mean it goes from policy to unethical to, you know, is there anything worse than unethical here? Is there anything illegal? I mean, we're finding a lot of junk up there in the swamp lately that is illegal. Is there, have you seen any red blinking lights? Along those lines yet, because we, you know, we want. We want to correct these and nothing like the rule of law to, you know, sink the teeth in a little deeper. Great question.

[Eric Teetzel]

I am sure where there's smoke, there's fire, and that you're going to dig deep and find examples of outright illegal behavior, to say nothing, as you say, of the grift, which is to say nothing of the wastefulness and wokeness of this funding. We've all read examples like Chelsea Clinton's wedding being paid for by global aid money, that kind of stuff.

[Dave Walsh]

Right, right. Exactly. Right.

[Bradley Thayer]

Yeah.

[Eric Teetzel]

Yeah. And I think it's only a matter of time before all of that is brought to light and people start to pay the consequences.

[Dave Walsh]

Yeah. Speaking of, you know, coloring it within the lines, let's go over to pivot to the Federal Reserve a little bit. Jim Dement, you know, one of the great leaders in the Senate now, you know, off on the policy side, you know, he tried to put in audit the Fed stuff, the parliamentarium, shut him down in the Senate by his own Republicans. Right. So this, you know, this deep state uniparty stuff is problematic. Are you. And Ed Corrigan, you know, is one of the leading, you know, scholars of the Senate rules and all this, and a great patriot as well. But what do you have in your reserve, you know, memory going back to, you know, Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Jim Deminto, and the Federal Reserve's been very, you know, what's it called? Just nothing sticks to it. Right. You just cannot catch these guys. They have deep state linkages, all very deep. So give us what, you know, in a couple minutes there, Eric.

[Eric Teetzel]

There's a lot of great questions and important ones to ask about the Fed, and Heroes like Jim DeMint have been asking them for a long time.

[Dave Walsh]

Yeah.

[Eric Teetzel]

Right. Now, one of the fundamental questions that the President has been leaning into, hard and rightly so, is who is in control. The Constitution makes it very clear there are three branches of government. You've got the legislative branch, the executive, and the judicial. Where does the Fed land in that? The answer is in between. And that's not the way the founders set up our country. There is no place for unelected bureaucrats who are unaccountable to any actual authority that is responsive to the people. And so the President is rightly saying, the Fed sure appears to fall under my executive authorities. And as President of the United States, I'm going to exert my authority to control the Fed. It's exactly what he should be doing. This fight's been a Long time coming.

[Dave Walsh]

Yeah, well, that's right. Mike Davis was on early in the day and you just basically gave very similar, almost exact account. Mike. It's a fourth branch of government that's not accountable to anyone. And the Congress are supposed to be under us. And then they come before us with oversight. And unfortunately, not enough of the Congress members know enough to ask them tough questions. But we'll be back with Eric after the break. I want to say thanks to our great sponsors, Birch Gold. You've been seeing them on with Steve. We had them on yesterday. And so, you know, there's times of turbulence. Gold, I think, broke through its level today to its all time high because of the global instability we've been talking about with the wars, etc. And so, you know, make sure to look them up. Birch Gold will send you a free info kit on Gold. Just text Bannon to the number 989-898. Again, Bannon to 9,898. And consider diversifying a portion of your savings into Gold. That way, if the Fed can't stay ahead of the curve, at least you can protect yourself. And so please contact our friends at Birchgold.

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[Shannon Everett]

Yeah. So thank you for having us. We're always glad to be on the war room with the war room posse. And, and this matter of immigration in the trucking industry really stems from the exploitation of these third world countries. And so we're not having a problem with immigration from first world countries. The only, the only countries that seem to be flooding the American trucking industry right now are countries like Ethiopia, India, Ecuador, Honduras. It's all places where these people are used to not making the same prevailing wage that an American truck driver makes. And so over the last four or five years, our industry has been flooded in certain zones around the country. And we've really done a good job here lately of tying this all together of exactly where they're coming in. And I'm sure you can probably guess exactly where they're landing. And that's the sanctuary states across the country that everyone's been talking about. But we've also had a recent development where we've seen that even some red states have a little of this labor dumping situation going on with truck drivers. But in democratic metropolitan cities. And so like Miami, Florida, for example, we're having a problem there. We've also identified a problem area in Houston, Texas. And so it's really a Massive problem. Because I mean when you talk about the trucking industry, it's over three and a half million jobs. And so, you know, there's been this narrative throughout the industry that we've got a driver shortage and so we've got to find a way to solve this shortage. And so we've got several groups and special interest groups inside of the industry that have been trying to accomplish that with illegal immigration. The problem is they don't have, they don't have the right interest or they don't have our interest at heart because they're not bringing in, they're not bringing in labor that's competitive to the American prevailing wage. And so in doing so they've, they've exploited the labor, they've put greed first and have made our highways very dangerous. And that's why the country is seeing all of these explosions, these massive blow ups that we're not used to seeing. And that's because not only are they exploiting them for, for the labor, but also they're, they're not following the hours of service regulations, they're not following the driver qualification regulations, they're not following our, and our IRS regulations. And so when it comes to the hours of service, we have video evidence now of non citizen truck drivers driving down the road being dispatched by non citizen dispatchers overseas. And while the driver's driving down the road, they're manipulating the electronic logging device and changing their time. And so essentially these guys never stop. They work around the clock. We've seen that in the crash in Terrell, Texas back in the end of June when the guy had been up and had drove, had been driving straight on his logbook and had even backdated the date on the bill of lading for the load and manipulated the bill lading so that it looked like he had left a day earlier. Because when the police pull you over, they know if, what time you left the shipper by looking at your bill of lading. So they're going as far to even manipulate that data. So of course we're going to have massive crashes when, when, when the guys are not following our regulations and our hours of service. And so it's a, it's a huge problem.

[Dave Walsh]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, on this, you know, President Trump, that the, the illegal border crossings have gone way down. Are you seeing any reduction in the amount of illegal immigration? And then secondly, you know, this is all tied, you know, driving and the regs, all the regs you're mentioning in all this, the firms are mostly, what's the size of these firms and are they going to be in legal jeopardy as well? Have, have any of the, have, have we gone after, have the feds gone after any of these firms when they do catch the folks who have caused these horrific crashes?

[Shannon Everett]

Yeah, so you know, the problem with the immigration, the immigration definitely has stopped, but we have so many people that got into the country over the, over the last several years that all of these guys are already here. And what, so what hasn't stopped is they haven't stopped issuing these drivers these non domicile commercial driver's license. And so because they haven't stopped issuing them, there's still this pipeline of illegal drivers or non citizen workers that are here on these EAD cards. And so, you know, Trump administration's dealing with that. But we've got this lag here or we've got this tail that's going to take a while to clean all that stuff up. When it comes to the accountability of all of this, they're definitely a lot smaller. A lot of these guys will get their driver's license and then they'll go start a new DOT authority. But there are massive companies, billion dollar enterprises that are brokering to these drivers. And so even though they might not be directly hiring them, they are contracting to these drivers. And it's kind of a willful blindness operation. And, and we're trying to bring a lot to that right now. And a great example of that's the recent crash that we had in Florida. No one has talked yet about who was the shipper, what load were they hauling and who were they hauling it for, and then who was the broker. Almost every time you see one of these crashes, these guys are working through a third party broker, but they're working for one of these Fortune 500 shippers. And so the American public deserved to know who hired these guys, who were they working for and what were they hauling.

[Dave Walsh]

Good.

[Shannon Everett]

And through those processes is how we're going to really bring accountability. There's also a Supreme Court decision. The court hadn't taken it up yet, but there's a couple of brokers that's asking the Supreme Court to pick it up. And it's the issue of preemption they're having because there's so many more crashes today. Almost all of these crashes involve these non citizen truck drivers. They're trying to get protection from the Supreme Court to say they're not liable for these accidents and they're not responsible. And so that would be a travesty right now if that were to Happen.

[Dave Walsh]

Yeah. Hey. Yep. Shannon, in a minute to go. You're shedding light here. That looks like the major problem. Right. These are sanctuary states. There. Everybody's hiding the football. So what? How do folks get a hold of you and then who do you recommend? The posse? You got millions of people listening to you. Who do they reach out to if they know of something that's going on, who do they report it to so we can help shine the light and, you know, where can people, you know, write letters or articles or whatever to bring this tragic stuff to an end?

[Shannon Everett]

Yeah. So. So please follow us on all of our social medias. At ATU Truckers, we also have a website where you can come and register and tell us your story or ask for help for advocacy, and that's at www.americantruckers.com. but we've really. We've really got to fight this at a state level. We need to codify into law protections when it comes to English language proficiency for our truck drivers and when it comes to the type of license that we will allow to come through our states. Just because California wants to be radical doesn't mean we have to accept that.

[Dave Walsh]

Yep. Good for you. All right. God bless you. Shannon, thanks for being on the War Room. We appreciate all you're doing, and thanks to all the truckers out there, and please help us solve this problem. We're going to go over to Chris Hoare right now. Chris, I hear you've got a great new product you're sharing with the War Room today. Let us have it. What's going on?

[Chris Hoare]

Well, hi, Dave, and thanks. It's great to be back here. We had this product, we developed the bulletproof ballistic backpack. And we developed this, Dave, in conjunction with law enforcement and special forces friends in here in San Diego. And we did that because we were tired of seeing kids getting killed in classrooms and having no way to defend themselves. And unfortunately, this week, we had another tragic incident, of course, in Minneapolis. And we. We made this bulletproof backpack to give people a way to fight back and to protect themselves and give themselves a fighting chance if they were so unfortunate as to be in such a terrible situation. Because, look, any parent knows that they're buying a backpack for their kids every year, you know, and now we've got adults buying backpacks more than anything else. And we had that awful incident in midtown Manhattan just a few weeks back where a gunman broke into that office building and multiple people were killed there. So, you know, you're not really safe anyway. But I think the number one thing that we're focused on is protecting our kids when they go off to school. And that's why we developed this. This backpack is only 2 pounds, 2 and a half pounds. It's 18 inches by 12 by 5. You can see it at sat123.com and normally this backpack is 199 bucks. But we're doing this for free with a free sat phone and activation day because we think that everyone, everyone should be able to get this backpack and afford it. And so of course, we're a satellite phone company primarily and we are the only ones in the country who give you a free satellite phone with activation. A cell phone will keep you connected no matter what. And we're right getting right into hurricane season and we all know what can happen there. The towers go down, the power goes out, and that means your cell phone is not going to work. But a satellite phone will always work. And Dave, so this is something that we are the only ones who do it. You can get a free sat phone with [e-mail] or call 941-841-0844. That's 941-841-0840. Tell them you saw us on the War Room and they will give you a free satellite phone and a free bulletproof backpack so you can keep your kids safe when they go off to school. And if you don't need the phone, these backpacks are just $199. They but they are certified by the NIJ to level 3A. They will stop anything up to a.44 Magnum handgun, shotgun blast or anything up to 9 millimeter automatic weapons fired.

[Dave Walsh]

Unreal. Very good, Chris. I was in Congress, folks. I had something on that order. What Chris is talking about. Airports, school kids, crowds, risky situations. Look them up. Thanks, Chris. Thanks for being with us on the War Room. All right, we're going to be back with Brad Thayer right after the break. Stay tuned.

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[Bradley Thayer]

Oh, Dave, it's my pleasure. Great to join you this afternoon. Yeah. The humanitarian disaster, of course, that's the war between Russia and Ukraine continues, the horrific attacks against Kiev that we witnessed yesterday. And the war is going on, the attacks are continuing. And this has to end. It has to end again because of it's a humanitarian disaster. Of course, there's always, secondly, the risk of escalation that could occur, sucking in other parties, the US More directly or escalating in terms of weapons that that might be used. And then thirdly, it has to end because it's really impinging negatively, of course, on our foreign policy. The Trump administration is working assiduously to end the conflict and to come to some type of relationship with Vladimir Putin so that the relationship can improve. We can have an entente with Russia and thus work with Russia against the Chinese Communist Party, of course, which is the main threat that the United States faces and indeed the world faces from the CCP's aggression. So on Sunday and Monday, there's going to be the next meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, or sco, and that's a meeting of the major states of Asia, including the Central Asian states, China, of course, Russia, India as well, and Pakistan. So it's going to be occurring in China. Xi Jinping, of course, is hosting it. And it's really a symbol that Xi uses of the consolidation of anti Americanism in international politics. So, as we've talked about, Dave, we know that the relationship with India is going through a hiccup with the tariffs. Modi is going to be there in China, and that's a very important development because it's been years since he has set foot in China. But we also want to recognize that there are natural limits to how far that cooperation can go. Vladimir Putin must recognize he's made a mistake starting that war and continuing it. The longer it goes on, of course, the more indebted he becomes to Xi Jinping. Right? So he's really fettering himself to Xi Jinping and maximizing the PRC's influence with Russia. Putin is a very astute geostrategist. He recognizes the danger of that. Likewise, Modi, China and India have fought many wars, and there have been ongoing border skirmishes, most recently in 20 and 21, which have resulted, of course, in death. So there's considerable security competition which is always present in the relationship between New Delhi and Beijing. So we don't want to make too much of this. Right. Xi Jinping is going to be touting it. And then it lies into the next day, of course, after September 1st is September 2nd, and that's the 80th anniversary of the end of World War II, where the world really reflects on that horrific conflict and its impact, of course, its profound impact on international politics, of course, on the United States and on almost every country that we're still going through. The day after that September 3, Xi Jinping is going to host his major military parade where Putin is going to be present. That's an important symbol that Vladimir Putin will be at that meeting, as well as Kim Jong Un and other leaders from other states like Myanmar and others. So it's Xi Jinping's.

[Dave Walsh]

Will Modi be at that one? Will Modi be at that one?

[Bradley Thayer]

No.

[Dave Walsh]

Is that significant?

[Bradley Thayer]

Very significant. Dave Modi is saying he'll show up for the sco, but he's not going to participate in Xi Jinping's weaponization of the memory of World War II. Right. He's not going to participate in that. That's a very important symbol which really underscores the natural limits of, of the co op of any type of relationship between New Delhi and Beijing. So the September 3rd parade is going to be an important symbol that Xi Jinping weaponizing the memory of World War II to really demonstrate the PRC strength in his own mind.

[Dave Walsh]

Yep. Yeah. Let's back up to this Kiev thing and the hostilities there. And Putin, it seems to me, went to war for one reason, and we have that reason. It's called the Monroe Doctrine for us. You're not going to be on my border. You're not going to be in my hemisphere. And he made it very clear. And NATO has been encroaching on that rules with 17 other countries over the last couple decades. And this was the last straw. And so we need a solution there. What is a potential solution? I heard a couple analysts bring up, you know, possible Switzerland kind of thing, where there's a deal that they become a neutral country and Putin's got his eyes on it. And it's, it's a framework that we're not trying to fake them out. We're not saying it's part of NATO. We're not doing the security arrangements that look problematic. Do you think that has any weight or what. What's. What's the last best chance we have? Because without that piece falling into place, the rest of the cards look pretty weak.

[Bradley Thayer]

Well, it's. I think there are several options, of course, or scenarios that might define or inform the end of this conflict, which of course, as President Trump always stresses, never should have started and has gone on far, far too long. That is one a Switzerland neutrality for Ukraine I think is bordering on a reasonable solution. Ukraine and NATO is unlikely. Ukraine kind of semi with one toe in NATO equally is unlikely because Article 5 has to remain resolute. You're either in NATO or you're not. There's no, no halfway house with respect to it. Sadly, Ukraine is going to have to accept the hard facts of international politics where territory is going to have. Their territory is going to have to be lost.

[Dave Walsh]

I know, I know, right.

[Bradley Thayer]

It's very painful to recognize that. But you know that these are the cold, hard facts that we're facing.

[Dave Walsh]

What's your, what's your explanation for why we can't just leave? I've had Sam Fad has said you can't just do that. You know, our side is saying that you can't just leave instantaneously. It, you know, reeks of Vietnam and Afghanistan and chaos. And Putin potentially could go for seas more than we would if we had strong negotiations. But how do you read that one?

[Bradley Thayer]

Well, of course there's always the risk, but we want to be very careful here. Ukraine was never a US Ally. We never had any security commitments to Ukraine and we were never fighting their war. Yes, there might have been other activities of some government agencies and allied government agencies. Well, ensconced in Ukraine. That's not an ally of the United States. And that's very important to recognize when we're dealing with this situation.

[Dave Walsh]

Did we ever promise them, did we ever, did we ever promise them any security arrangements? There was some, I can't remember if it was the US or the west promises of if you denuclearize, we promised something. What was that deal?

[Bradley Thayer]

Well, indeed, in 94, right. Ukraine was born nuclear. Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan inherited this part of the Soviet nuclear arsenal. And the west put great pressure on Ukraine to denuclearize. And it did. It surrendered its nuclear weapons, as Kazakhstan did and Belarus did as well. There was an argument at that time that Ukraine should not have given up its nuclear weapons because nuclear weapons are a very powerful deterrent because they greatly increased the cost of war. And so but Ukraine did, and I'm sure there are many in Ukraine who rue the day, of course. But as a result of that, of course, we were cagey in terms of the commitment. Boris Johnson in the most recent round, of course, made all sorts of promises towards Ukraine that were upon reflection, of course, you know, that were certainly Unable for the west to realize. And as John Mearsheimer continuously stresses. Right, we led Ukraine down the primrose path for a long time.

[Dave Walsh]

Terrible. Yeah, let me pivot back. We got a couple minutes. Yeah, let me pivot back to the final piece. This China, India thing has grave consequences. Is it possible in your mind for them to carry on, you know, economic relationships, even if they differ on the geopolitical sphere? Can they, the BRICs and all this, can they, can they go forward with two tracks that would be problematic for the U.S. what's your read on that?

[Bradley Thayer]

Sure. Indeed they are. Because, you know, Xi Jinping is doing his utmost to undermine us in every respect. I mean, he wants to destroy the United States as the dominant state. He wants to weaken it. He wants to harm the American people as he's working every day, attacking the homeland through fentanyl and so many other avenues of attack. So he's doing his utmost to advance along those lines. Dave. It's important, of course, for the audience to recognize that. So we should certainly expect that he's going to be employing the sco. He's going to be doing his utmost in brics to do so. But again, there are natural limits really, to the relationship with India. Right. New Delhi has its own interests and it's a real estate. It's going to pursue its own interests. So, yes, there's going to be trade between China and India. There's going to be, of course, diplomatic, obviously a strong diplomatic relationship.

[Dave Walsh]

10 seconds. Yep.

[Bradley Thayer]

But you know, there are natural limits to it. That's what Trump is trying to do, right?

[Dave Walsh]

Yeah.

[Bradley Thayer]

Employ the interest of the state against him.

[Dave Walsh]

Yep. How do people get to you, Bradley?

[Bradley Thayer]

Dave, I'm at X and Brad Thayer or get our truth at Bradley Thayer. Thanks much, Dave. See you next time.

[Dave Walsh]

Awesome. No, great job. Covered a ton of ground war Room's been on this. Bannon's been on all this for a decade. Stay tuned. We're going back to Ben Berkwam at the border. Immigration.

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[Dave Walsh]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. All right, folks, back in the war room with Ben Berkwam. We had the truckers on earlier. Shannon Everett gave us the gory details of the serious crash has taken place mainly in sanctuary states. Right. So the politics matters here. The voting matters. It is pretty simple. In politics, your list has to be bigger than their list or we lose the country. So everybody get working on that. But Ben, you got a bunch of trucks coming out right behind you. What's the latest you've been hearing? I know you got trucking friends on the illegal immigration. They're cooking the books. They're, they're violating every regulation. They're driving 24 hours. They're killing people. And so catch us up on that. And then I know you want to do more on the the enemy within.

[Ben Berkwam]

Yeah. Yeah. So this is I'm actually just outside of Laredo at the checkpoint, border patrol checkpoint. But just to give an idea, I want to give a shout out to my buddy Randy and Laura out of Ohio, truckers up there, and then my buddy Albert out of California. They've been trucking for years and they've been talking to me about this for years. You know, the regulations have increased on them. It's harder for them to get loads American citizens. It's just like every other industry, whether you're a contractor, any industry, you're a restaurant, your hospitality, any of that stuff, you're competing with people that don't follow the rules, they don't follow the laws, they don't get the insurances, they don't get the bonds. And one of the things, what's crazy, I was talking to Randy. He said some of the maintenance truck companies or truck maintenance companies won't even work on the illegal trucks. These guys have cut holes in the floorboards excuse my language, to crap through. Because they're just. It's like, it's the third world mentality. So they'll literally keep driving, they'll have two drivers and they'll crap it. I don't want to talk about it anymore. But it's that level of mentality, it's the third world mentality that has been imported into America that now American citizens are having to compete against. And whether that's trucking or any other industry. And on top of that, now you have. You've got these massive pieces of machinery, equipment that are obviously deadly weapons. And we've seen the impacts of that. And so it's, it's just one more layer of what this idiocy of leftism gets you, where they care more about protecting transgender so they can go do shootings than they do about keeping people safe on the streets.

[Dave Walsh]

Yep. All related. Hey, do you have some foot, Denver, you say you got some footage of the arrest today.

[Ben Berkwam]

So on top. So on top of that. So we just rode with ice, San Antonio, two days ago. This morning, we got exclusive real America's Voice footage. I was there in Harlingen, Texas, as a flight to Guatemala was taking off. Guatemala and Honduras. We were allowed on the plane when it was just the single adult males, about 80% single adult males. These guys, the bad hombres, as President Trump talks about every single day, day after day. We've got flights going out. But it's just the beginning. What Joe Biden let in. When you talk about 10 million illegals, you know that's taking their numbers. If you take the unknowns, you're probably looking at closer to 15 or more. It's very easy to let them in. It's very costly to get them out. But Texas is doing everything they possibly can. The federal air marshals are there. They're joint operations with ICE and Border Patrol. They were operating on scene. All of these different agencies working together. But it's just the beginning of securing this country. This all goes back to Dave, what we were talking about yesterday. The enemies within our nation, the same organizations that were profiting off the invasion, that were just training people on how to invade our country, are the ones trying to protect them from being deported now. And that's where our efforts should be. That's where the DOJ should be focused. That's where Pam Bondi and Cash Patel and I know they are looking there. I am not going to feel comfortable first until we win more House seats, more MAGA House seats in the 2026 elections. And until we see major prosecutions in both politics and in all of these NGOs that are aiding and abetting this undermining of our country.

[Dave Walsh]

Yeah, well, this is your world. You know, E Verify would work wonders, you know, if that went into law. These, you know, these sanctuary states will never do that. But is there any evidence, any word on the street that, you know, the incentives, the pain of coming here, the price is high and it's keeping people, or are there any signs of folks going back voluntarily, US Firms being, hey, this ain't worth it, I just not going to take the risk. Or, or in the sanctuary states, has nothing changed? Where do we stand?

[Ben Berkwam]

Well, it's interesting. It's a tale of two states or a tale of two cities or a tale of two countries. So you've got the red states like Texas that are implementing it. All areas from the federal, state and local level are working together. The illegals are running scared and so are the, the complicit individuals, US citizens, legal immigrants that have been profiting off iterating and abetting. You see that, you feel the tension here. And in fact, you've got a huge number of people self deporting. You've got illegals in these places self deporting. They're using both the CBP home app, but they're also just leaving. We've got exit interviews of the illegals that are actually just going back across the border saying it's just not worth it. But you also have, what you have is a flight into the sanctuary community. So you have people leaving places like San Antonio and places like Dallas and going to places like Chicago or trying to get to California because they feel like they're going to be protected there. So again, that's why it's just as critical that President Trump increases the enforcement that Tom Homan, they increase the enforcement in those places. And as Karen Bass screams about it, and as, as Mayor Johnson screams about it, they need to go into these places even more and again, they need to arrest those politicians. But until then, yeah, they need to double down on their efforts within those communities.

[Dave Walsh]

But yeah, well, Bannon's been saying to go full on maximalist policy across the board while we got it. And if we don't, if we don't get it done in a couple years, we're in trouble. Ben, how do people get you follow you and how do you encourage the American people to share these platforms? You know, Steve's show, the war room, your work so that we win at the ballot box right all political views are my own. But that's what's at stake here. If we don't win at the ballot box, everybody gets mad, you know, that's okay. But we got to spread the Republican meetings. I go to. 70 people show up. Right. It needs to be a thousand. So what's your words of encouragement to get the posse out there?

[Ben Berkwam]

Look, America's on our side side. We just have to get out there and, and continue to share the information. Mine is at Ben Berquam. Unfortunately, I'm a little shadow banned on X right now. I think maybe because Elon Steve is going so hard at Elon. But on everything else, you can find me at Ben Berkwom, my substack, Frontline America. But I would just encourage people the, the citizens are on our side, the people are on our side. Don't believe the mainstream media charge ahead. We win this thing. But you can't sit down.

[Dave Walsh]

Yep, very good. Thanks for being out, Ben. God bless you. Keep up the great work. I'm going to put in a little plug for Liberty University today on the Hill they one of the swamp rags up there. Liberty University is ranked number one conservative school in the country. Not up in the top. The number one conservative school in the country. What do we conserve? In the beginning was the word, John 1. In the beginning, the creator. Everything was made through the Word. That's going back pretty far. That's what we're conserving the Judeo Christian tradition, the values and virtues that made America great. And so I just want to thank you all for tuning in. Please share every platform with young people, with the seniors. God bless you all.

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