Episode 4749: 80th Anniversary Of The Surrender Of Japan; XI Putin And Modi Meet

Summary

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Bannon's War Room: Episode 4749

Date: September 2, 2025
Theme: 80th Anniversary of Japan’s Surrender; Xi, Putin, and Modi Meet – A Crisis for U.S. Foreign Policy

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Episode Overview

In this special episode, Steve Bannon and guests mark the 80th anniversary of Japan's surrender, which ended World War II, juxtaposing this historical milestone with present-day geopolitical shifts. The main focus is on the symbolic and strategic gathering of leaders (Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, and Narendra Modi) in China, the changing dynamics of global alliances, and the challenges facing U.S. policy in Europe, Ukraine, Israel, and around the world. The episode features deep-dive historical analysis, critical perspectives on U.S. leadership, and warnings about looming threats to American interests, particularly the move to undermine the U.S. dollar by the BRICS bloc.

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Key Sections & Discussion Highlights

1. Commemoration of VJ Day & Historical Reflections

• [00:00, 02:35, 03:56, 06:50]
  • Readings and dramatic presentations from President Harry Truman and others create a somber reminder of the consequences and legacy of WWII.
  • General Douglas MacArthur, Generals Wainwright and Percival, and others are highlighted as symbols of sacrifice and victory.
  • A radio announcer (06:50) poignantly frames the cost of war:

    "No victory can make good their loss... We think of those whom death in this war has hurt... Only the knowledge that the victory which these sacrifices have made possible will be wisely used can give them any comfort."

• [09:40] Bannon:
  • Contextualizes the anniversary and links it to current efforts by China and Russia to challenge the U.S.:

    "Symbolically, the Chinese Communist Party and the KGB had a gathering in Shanghai to talk about a new world order that they intend to put together to try to thwart the United States..."

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2. Shanghai Summit: Xi, Putin, and Modi – A New World Order?

• [01:08, 03:31] Putin & Bannon, [04:47] Political Analyst
  • Putin thanks Chinese hosts, underscores Russia-China "strategic cooperation."
  • Modi's appearance is interpreted as India's pivot back toward Russia and China, unraveling prior U.S. efforts to court India as a containment partner against China.
• [04:47] Political Analyst:
  • Cites the image from the summit as "a significant setback for the United States."

    "The image of Putin holding hands with Modi was a sign that Putin is getting away with it… India’s repositioning toward Russia and China reverses diplomacy conducted since George W. Bush."

• [14:04, 14:58] Bannon:
  • Warns this summit represents a true threat to the U.S.-led order, particularly regarding the end of the "dollar empire" and the siding of major economies against the U.S.

    "Now you’ve got SCO and BRICS building a parallel institution to this Global Rules Based Order."

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3. U.S. Decline and the Erosion of WWII’s Legacy

• [12:00] Jack Posobiec:
  • Contrasts America’s postwar dominance and naval might (symbolized by the USS Missouri) with today’s erosion of that power:

    "It seemed as though we were at the zenith of American power... now you contrast that with what was going on on the Land Based order... what Russia, India and China were up to this weekend."

• [22:27] Jack Posobiec:
  • Reflects on the beliefs of WWII veterans, warning that contemporary America betrays what they fought for:

    "They tell you to say, 'This is not what we fought for. We didn’t fight for our cities to be destroyed and turned into dumps and slums... for tyranny from the government now.'"

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4. Failures of the Current U.S. Foreign Policy

• [41:35] Bannon & Posobiec:
  • Critiques the Biden and Trump administrations’ handling of Ukraine, Israel, and global alliances.
• [33:04-38:53] Ukraine Segment:
  • Bannon:

    "The British economy is collapsing, the French economy is collapsing. The German economy is already in a recession... There’s no political will of the people to do this. They don’t have any arms, they have no armies."

  • Posobiec:
    • Explains Zelensky’s decision to allow young men to leave Ukraine, a sign of internal political and manpower crises.
    • Analysis of pipeline diplomacy: India and China solidifying deals with Russia, further excluding the West.

    "It’s very clear – India is going to continue purchasing the cheap oil from Russia... China, they just locked in a pipeline... None of this is going to flow through any Western banks..."

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5. Energy, Economic, and Global Realignment

• [35:14] Bannon & Posobiec:
  • How European reliance on Russian energy and misguided climate policies have weakened Europe.
  • The BRICS and SCO are developing parallel financial and security systems to avoid Western sanctions and financial leverage.
  • Discussion of the “Rio Reset” and the global move away from the U.S. dollar as the reserve currency.

    "Now the BRICS are the enemy of the United States of America. No doubt about that. Gotta keep India out of it." (30:18, Bannon)

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6. Crisis in Israel & Manpower Problems

• [38:53–43:38] Gaza War Segment:
  • Bannon details cabinet disputes inside Israel, IDF’s lack of manpower, and the deepening challenge of running Gaza after the war.

    "The IDF just has a massive manpower problem to have to go into Gaza… going door to door in these bloody, you know, clearing exercises." (41:35, Bannon)

  • Posobiec highlights the fraught political bargain around drafting Israel’s ultra-Orthodox, and the risk this poses to Netanyahu's coalition.

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7. Fractures in Western Democracies

• [22:27] Posobiec:
  • Cites political instability in Poland and across the West; mass demonstrations against mass migration; “silent invasion” becomes a watchword.
• [38:53] Bannon:
  • Predicts collapse of European governments who embraced mass migration and blames globalists and weak political leadership.

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8. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [03:56] Harry Truman:

  "Japan accepted unconditional surrender according to the provisions of the Potsdam Declaration... These proceedings are closed."

• [04:47] Political Analyst:

  "India's repositioning toward Russia and China reverses decades of U.S. diplomacy."

• [22:27] Jack Posobiec:

  "We didn’t fight for our cities to be destroyed and turned into dumps and slums... What freedom do we still have now here in the United States?"

• [30:18] Steve Bannon:

  "Right now the BRICS are the enemy of the United States of America. No doubt about that."

• [41:35] Jack Posobiec:

  "It is an unpopular war internationally and domestically, it’s leading to these fractures... not only within political governance in the Knesset but also within the IDF."

• [49:39] Bannon:

  "We don’t need a foreign leader, particularly a vassal state... to lecture us on what’s best for America."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–03:56: WWII surrender history & significance
• 04:47–06:34: Analysis of the summit, India’s realignment
• 12:00–14:04: American power post-WWII vs. today; birth of global order
• 22:27–27:42: Veterans' perspectives; decline of Western civilization
• 33:04–38:53: Ukraine—manpower, Western failures, pipeline diplomacy
• 38:53–43:38: Israel, Gaza War, IDF political and manpower crisis
• 49:39–51:19: Israel’s dependency on US; Bannon’s criticism of Netanyahu
• 51:45–End: Preview of further discussion (Christians in the Middle East, coming September agenda)

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Tone and Style

The episode is intense, combative, and frames current global events as existential threats to American power and values. The historical references evoke patriotic solemnity; the present-day analysis is alarmist, urgent, and deeply critical of both U.S. and allied leadership.

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Conclusion

This episode draws stark lines between the sacrifices of WWII, the current global order, and what Bannon and his panelists see as serious betrayals of both. The Shanghai summit is positioned as a wake-up call—a clear demonstration that adversaries are uniting, with the collusion or complacency of former U.S. partners such as India. The enduring question posed: Has the West squandered its legacy, and who will step up to defend it now?

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Transcript

[Harry Truman]

I have received this afternoon a message from the Japanese government in reply to the message forwarded to that government by the Secretary of State on August 11th. I deem this reply a full acceptance of the Potsdam Declaration, which specifies the unconditional surrender of Japan. In the reply, there is no qualification. Arrangements are now being made for the formal signing of the surrender terms at the earliest possible moment. General Douglas MacArthur has been appointed the Supreme Allied Commander to receive the Japanese surrender. Great Britain, Russia and China will be represented by high ranking officers. Meantime, the Allied Armed Forces have been ordered to suspend offensive action. The proclamation of VJ Day must await upon the formal signing of the surrender terms by Japan.

[Vladimir Putin]

Esteemed President Putin, my old friend. I'm very glad to see you again in Beijing. Literally yesterday we participated together at the SCL Summit. And tomorrow we are going to attend, along with other heads of state and other guests of honor from the five continents. We are going to celebrate together the fifth 80th anniversary of the Chinese people victory over the Japanese invaders and our victory in World War II. Excellency residency. My dear friend, both myself and the entire Russian delegation, we are glad to have this chance to meet again our Chinese friends, our Chinese counterparts. We are grateful for the warm welcome extended to our delegation. Our close communication reflects the strategic nature of the Russian Chinese cooperation that is at the unprecedentedly high level which was demonstrated during your official visit to Russia in May, and our joint participation in the festive events to commemorate the victory.

[Harry Truman]

We are gathered here, representatives of the major warring powers, to conclude a solemn agreement whereby peace may be restored. The terms and conditions upon which surrender of the Japanese Imperial forces is here to be given and accepted are contained in the instrument of surrender. Now before you, I now invite the representatives of the Emperor of Japan and the Japanese government and the Japanese Imperial General Headquarters to sign the instrument of surrender at the places.

[Steve Bannon]

Mr. President, this demonstrates just how profound and comprehensive our specially privileged strategic partnership truly is. Even under the most challenging circumstances, India and Russia have always moved forward shoulder to shoulder. Our close cooperation matters not only for the peoples of our two nations, but also for ensuring global peace, stability and prosperity.

[Harry Truman]

Japan accepted unconditional surrender according to the provisions of the Potsdam Declaration. General Jonathan Wainwright, liberated hero of Corregidor, and British General Arthur Percival, who was forced to surrender Singapore, stood at attention behind MacArthur as he began to write his name with the first of five pens. Pen number one went to General Wainwright. The second pen was handed to General Percival. The third and fourth were earmarked for the National Archives and West Point the fifth Mack kept for himself. These proceedings are closed.

[Steve Bannon]

Joe.

[Political Analyst]

I thought that the summit at Tianjin was a significant setback for the United States. The image of Vladimir Putin holding hands with the leader of India, Narendra Modi, was a sign that Putin is getting away with it, that three years into this war, he is now claiming this was the West's fault. And he has an audience of prominent world leaders who agree with them, including somebody who was a key person in America's efforts to create a new kind of informal partnership to contain China, namely India. India's repositioning toward Russia and China reverses diplomacy that's been conducted since the administration of George W. Bush, at least. And it's a really significant setback in terms of the broader outlook for Trump's foreign policy. He's looking at failures or lack of success in each of the major diplomatic initiatives that he undertook. The Ukraine war is still far from settled, and Russia is essentially thumbing its nose at President Trump. The Gaza war continues in a bloodier than ever direction that has got Israel divided against itself. Just a terrible situation for Israel and the Palestinians both. And Trump, seemingly unable to make his peace policies. One of the central things he ran on. I'm going to go make peace to make those policies work. And this weekend summit was a symbol of just how tough the obstacles to him succeeding in foreign policy become at that moment.

[Vladimir Putin]

As if on cue, the sun came.

[Steve Bannon]

Out and as the Japanese departed, a stunning aerial display.

[Vladimir Putin]

More than 2,000 allied aircraft flew in.

[Steve Bannon]

Formation over the Missouri. In Washington, President Harry Truman marked the moment.

[Radio Announcer]

There, on that small piece of American soil anchored in Tokyo harbor, the Japanese have just officially laid down their arms. They have signed terms of unconditional surrender. Our first thoughts, of course, thoughts of gracefulness and deep obligation go out to those of our loved ones who have been killed or maimed in this terrible war. On land and sea and in the air, American men and women have given their lives so that this day of ultimate victory might come and assure the survival of a civilized world. No victory can make good their loss. We think of those whom death in this war has hurt, taking from them father, husband, son, brothers and sisters whom they love. No victory can bring back the faces they long to see. Only the knowledge that the victory which these sacrifices have made possible will be wisely used can give them any comfort. It is our responsibility, ours, the living, to see to it that this victory shall be a monument worthy of the dead who died to win it. And our thoughts go out to our gallant allies in this war. To those who resisted the invaders, to those who were not strong enough to hold out, but who nevertheless kept the fires of resistance alive within the souls of their people. To those who stood up against great odds and held the line until the United nations together were able to supply the arms and the men with which to overcome the forces of evil. This is a victory of more than arms alone. This is a victory of liberty over tyranny. It was the spirit of liberty which gave us our armed strength and which made our men invincible in battle. And so, on VJ Day, we take renewed faith and pride in our own way of life. We have had our day of rejoicing over this victory. We have had our day of prayer and devotion. Now let us set aside BJ Day as one of renewed consecration to the principles which have made us the strongest nation on earth and which in this war we have driven so mightily to preserve. Victory always has its burdens and its responsibilities as well as its prejudices. But we face the future and all its dangers with great confidence and great hope. God's help has brought us to this day of victory. With his help, we will attain that peace and prosperity for ourselves and all the world in the years ahead.

[Steve Bannon]

It is Tuesday, the 2nd of September, in the year of our Lord 2025. It is the 80th commemoration, the 80th anniversary of the signing of the surrender document by Imperial Japan that brought the end to the bloodiest conflict in mankind's history. And symbolically, and this was done on purpose by the Chinese Communist Party and the kgb, they had a gathering in Shanghai over the last couple of days to talk about a new world order that they intend to put together and to try to thwart the United States, which has done a absolutely horrific job in keeping our own house in order. Jack Posobics, with me. We're going to spend the hour going through this, talk about all the details of this, including how it cuts back to opportunities for citizens of the United States, our budget, that the ticking time bomb of the, of the government shutdown at midnight on 30th. Plus, the President states now telling Big Pharma and Bobby Kennedy, let's see the data, see the information on the, on the vaccines. Jack Posobec, you and I followed this pretty closely over the weekend of what's happening in Shanghai as Xi tries to take the mantle of the Communists, who really just fought the Nationalists. They had very little engagement with the Japanese the entire time because all they wanted to do was control the country. After the war, the Chinese Communist Party had virtually no engagement or very little engagement with the Japanese in China. All they did was fight the Nationalists preparing to try to take over the country of which they did a few years after the peace treaty signed with the. Or the surrender, I guess it was signed with the, with the Japanese, of course, Morning Joe and all of it's got to bring it back to Ukraine, which we know is a completely failed effort. Jack Posobic, your your thoughts on a day 80 years ago that General Percival who surrendered Singapore and General Wainwright who was ordered to surrender Corregidor and then went on the Bataan death March were very symbolically the first two officers that signed co signed the surrender document of the Japanese to take the Japanese surrender. Jack Posobec, the floor is yours, sir.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve, when you really think about it, 80 years ago today, it seemed as though we were at the zenith of American power. And this really was the broadening and the opening of the American century. Then push into the 1950s and you see America has this sort of world dominance in addition to, of course though you see the communists coming across on the land while the US is able to maintain their dominance at sea. Of course, the fact that this was signed on a Navy battleship, the USS Missouri, is no small coincidence because it represented the sea power of the United States and the ability of the United States to use that Mahanian strategy to enact the system under which we now live, which is this. They call it the, the Global Rules Based Order. If you listen to Anthony Blinken. But of course you now contrast that with what was going on on the Land Based order. This gets into the Mackinder World island theory. And that's exactly what Russia, India and China were up to this weekend at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization up there in Tianjin. Now tonight, tomorrow their time, Beijing time, will be this huge parade. So you're seeing most of the members of brics, although Lula, interestingly not there, of course not member of sco. So the Brazilians, I believe they sent some people, but Lula himself is not there. But, but what you're looking at is this super integration, okay? A super integration of the major land powers of the landmass of Asia and Eurasia with Russia, China and India. And this super integration is becoming a parallel to naito and the G7. Now you've got the SCO and BRICS building a parallel institution to this Global Rules Based Order.

[Steve Bannon]

And of course India is there. We'll get to all of it. This is why four years ago, one of the reasons we started the end of the dollar empire to warn people. And of course Lula had a zoom call yesterday with the folks that were there at the Shanghai conference. He had a BRICS call zoom call talking even more about these bilateral agreements which the Birch Gold guys found when they went to Rio to thwart the dollar even more gold blowing through 3500 reach an all time high as we were coming on the air over $3,500. Take your phone out Tex Bannon BA and own it. 989-898 get the ultimate guide which happens to be free for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Short break per Sobic on the other.

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Download the Getter app now. Sign up for free and be part of the new family. Okay, well, by the way, tonight, I think at 10 o', clock, the new federal state of China is going to be streaming. They're going to be streaming the parade, the three September parade with the Chinese Communist Xi and Putin and all that. Modi is not going to be there, which I think is very important, very symbolic. I will be, to the degree that I'm around, I'll be jumping into that. We're going to have that up on our Getter site and on Rumble. Jack Posovic. So much more going on too. I'm going to get to everything that's happening because now after Labor Day, you're going to have a mad rush. September is going to be absolutely crazy, folks. So much stuff going on. And let's make it a good crazy as we hurdle towards a government shutdown on 30 September, or having to eat an NDA A in a omnibus that's got, I don't know, a $2 trillion, a $2 trillion deficit for next fiscal year. But I think people are awakening to the fact that the big beautiful bill either has to be sold harder or you have to have another reconciliation where maybe, wait for it, you actually tax the wealthy. More on that later as we progress through this. Jack Bosovic the Second World War is not Pearl harbor, it's not Normandy, it's not the Holocaust. It's all of that, obviously, and so much more. At the end of the day, it was a fight for the Eurasian landmass of which, I don't know, 100 million casualties in that fight, of which the United States with Great Britain, but particularly the Russian, the Red army, the Russian people were actually and the Chinese people, Lao Baijing, actually broke Imperial Japan and broke the Nazis and the fascists in Italy today, folks, are not taught the history of the Second World War and therefore really don't understand fully what we're commemorating today on the 80th anniversary of that. The people that fought it certainly did. You can tell about how geopolitically they went about it. I think that the leaders of our country would be quite disappointed that given all the sacrifice, all the blood, all the agony of our getting engaged there, which we did not want to until we were forced to by being attacked. And then the Nazis, two days after or three days after being attacked at Pearl harbor, declared war on us. Always want people to understand we did not declare war on Nazi Germany until after they declared war on us. That the architects of that victory and the young men who sacrificed their lives for that victory would be quite disappointed 80 years from that time that we've allowed some of the worst actors in the world to try to reconvene and to try to take not just the Eurasian landmass, but the entire world. And so an America first policy has to be to partner with the, with the correct people. And I think the Russian people are someone that we ought to think long and hard about partnering with. Not Putin and the kgb, obviously, they're not the best actors in the world, but this feckless, you know, NATO allies, and let me be specific, all the happy talk you saw here at the Oval Office two weeks ago, the big talk, they're going to do this, they're going to do that. The head of the eu, the President, was talking over the weekend about an army they're going to put together and troops they're going to send to the line of contact in Ukraine. And yet we have this morning a crisis in England. The bond market is throwing up all over their government securities. They're facing a financial crisis. Macron, and this is Politico reports, as Bloomberg reports, as Macron and his government are in a crisis this week where Le Pen's now rising in popularity as they're facing a financial crisis, as we forecast here in the war room two years ago, that both of those Germany's already in a major recession, but those two are hurtling towards it. They have a mass immigration problem. You're hurtling towards a civil war in the United Kingdom. You put up the cross of St. George, you put up a flag of England, and the police come around and try to lock you up. So with all these problems right now we see, now we see the Chinese Communist Party, which is the major font of all evil in the world, plotting against us. And what they're focused on right now, folks, is to take down and destroy the US Dollar as the prime reserve currency. That's where their banks are buying gold in record rates because they intend, as we reported, or as the Birch gold guys reported from Rio, it's all these bilat deals. So you have the worst actors in the world, particularly Luda, Lula. And today or tomorrow, we're going to get the verdict on Bolsonaro. And Bolsonaro is going to be found guilty and he's going to go to prison and they're going to try to assassinate him in prison. This is why his health is deteriorating so rapidly. Jack Posobic, put it in perspective for where are on the 80th commemoration 80 years ago, what would the folks, the architects that won the Second World War from the United States of America, the rising superpower, what would they think? What would they think today on the 80th anniversary of it?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, you know, Steve, it's very interesting because you, would you go back, you talk to the boys in Normandy, you look at some of the public opinion pieces, or for those of us who were blessed enough and gifted enough to have had the opportunity to meet that living generation which were losing now that those living links between our families and our forefathers, our recent forefathers who fought in World War II and their opinions, you can go and listen to them. You can listen to them over and over and they tell you to say, this is not what we fought for. We didn't fight for our cities to be destroyed and turned into dumps and slums. We didn't fight for these open air drug markets to be put out. We didn't fight for our cities to be flooded with migrants from the Third World. We didn't fight for any of these things. And you're seeing tyranny from the government now from, I say, oh, well, you know, at least we're not speaking German in London. And yet they're locking up people over memes. They locked up a, a cartoonist or a comedian over a couple of tweets just recently. A left wing guy, by the way, just locked him up. I think that was earlier today. And they're putting a huge fine on him. So you come back and say, oh, we fought for freedom. Well, what freedom, what freedom do we still have now here in the United states? Fortunately, in 2024, we were able to turn away from that. But you still look at what's being pushed on Western Europe now, particularly Poland, of course, and they're going to be here in the United States with the Polish president meeting President Trump in just a couple of days. They're now at a precipice where they were trying to impose this on Poland. But the people of Poland said, stood strong and said absolutely not. Because we don't care if the tyranny is coming from Berlin or Brussels or Moscow. We say no. And that's what the people of the United States did as well. But at the same time, you still have people all over the world looking at the, looking at these bastions. Look, when we talk about this history of freedom, these ideas, they came from the United Kingdom, Kingdom. And now suddenly that's where they're falling apart. And by the way, Australia and I had the opportunity to speak on Sky News. Australia over the weekend, massive rallies all across every single major city in Australia over the weekend. Melbourne, Perth, Sydney, Brisbane, tens of thousands of people marching for freedom and marching against mass migration. They said mass migration is a silent invasion. And this has become the watchword of the Western world. So while we're trying to recalibrate our freedoms here in the Anglosphere, in Western civilization, what do we see going on on the landmass of Eurasia? We're seeing this super integration far beyond anything that they were able to do. Because, Steve, we talk about the end of World War II, and it was certainly the formal war ended today, 80 years ago. But look at what happened just after you have the Chinese Communists winning in Beijing just a couple of years later in 1949. So four years later, after they restart the civil war with what, the backing of, oh, the Soviet Union. Why? Because the Soviet Union had been able to invade through Manchuria. It was Manchukuo at the time, taking the entire industrial base up there in the northeast. And they were able to use those arms and everything that they captured from the Japanese, hand that over to Chairman Mao. And now he's pushing the Nationalists out and Chiang Kai Shek, because we totally cut him off, we sold him out. He's got a flee to Taiwan. That's what set up the Taiwan situation, which remains to this day. They pushed down into Korea a couple of years later, but really just one year later. And that sets up the Korean War. So you have all of this aftermath that goes on on the Asian landmass as a connection between what Communism is doing out of Moscow into the fall of China, which the United States either stood back and watched or was given to them as a dowry. Oh, no, over there at the conference in Yalta, the same way we gave them Eastern Europe. So how does it, how, how Does World War II actually end? Right. If you, if you think about it, who comes out of World War II on top? Joseph Stalin comes out of World War II with a communist empire that stretches from Berlin all the way to Beijing. And that is a history that needs to be reckoned with.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, after 1943, there was arguments even inside the government that were giving too many arms to the Russians. Right. The Russians obviously were going to be the instrument to break the back of the Wehrmacht, the German army. But there are a lot of people, a lot of people in terms of the government were saying, hey, including some of the America first people in Congress were given this one thing to have them as an ally. As bad as the Bolsheviks are, as bad as the Soviets are. But we can't, we oversupplied them. There's no question about that. And I agree with you. The World War II actually started in the, in the mid-1930s, early 1930s in China, right on the landmass. Not just the Spanish Civil War, but the, the invasion. Yeah, the invasion. And it didn't end until and it started, still has. It's really just an armistice. The, the Korean War because you're immediately fighting in China.

[Jack Posobiec]

Continued on, wrote a book about it last year. Can't remember who that was. Again, on humans.

[Steve Bannon]

Some Polish guy. Some Polish guy. Stick around, Jack. We're going to be comparing and contrasting America first. Chicago's next. That's where troops ought to be going. No troops to Ukraine, no troops to Persia. Troops to Chicago. They cleaned up DC or the process of cleaning it up. Chicago next. New York after that, LA after that. Short commercial break. Talk about the modern day holy war as we go out. Pasobu's here on the kickoff to a mad September.

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[Harry Truman]

Wow.

[Steve Bannon]

Artificial intelligence and fiat currency. That's a good combo. Keep you up at night. Maybe. I understand now why the central banks are buying gold at record rates. Gold, as I said today, blew through 3,500. It's also not the price of gold. I think gold's up, what is it, 30% this year or something? It's not, it's not the price of gold. It's the process, the converging forces. That's what you gotta understand. It's important for you to understand that. Go to birchgold.com Bannon end of the dollar empire. We're going to be announcing a physical copy of the book of all seven free installments we've done. We're also working on the 8th and 9th, so more on that coming. You understand the logic of the BRICs. You have to understand how your enemy thinks. And right now the BRICs are the enemy of the United States of America. No doubt about that. That's where we got to keep India out of it. Jack Posobec, you gotta to have the Rashman with Russia and the Russian people. You gotta sort out Ukraine. Let me just be blunt because we have not been wrong on this yet and we said it the day that the chaperones were here taking up all that time of President Trump. They don't have the financial wherewithal, the political will or the military capacity to add anything to Ukraine. They gave a bunch of happy talk that day, but they went back with over to the Ukrainian embassy and there was that picture with Zelensky, he's trying to sell them. But they got nothing. Zero. It's all happy talk. The British economy is collapsing, the French economy is collapsing. The German economy is already in a recession. There's no political will of the people to do this. They don't have any arms, they have no armies. They can't defend themselves. They depended upon the underwriting of the United States of America. That's why folks, over the next two weeks they're going to have a must pass. NDAA National Defense Authorization act is basically gonna lay out over $1 trillion defense budget for the good old United States of America that you are paying for and that your kids are signing up for. And that is because they want to get us into Ukraine. Big league. It's not going to happen. President Trump's not going to let that happen. But Jack, right now the Russians are pounding. Zelensky says we're going to pound back. I'm sure they will. As long as they have the arms and somebody gives them money and arms, they'll continue to pound back. It's not about the courage or valor of the Ukrainian people. Hell, 1.8 million of them are either dead or wounded in this fight. And I think now it's pretty obvious that the Russians are going to focus on taking Odessa before they have any discussions about shutting this thing down. Your thoughts, sir?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steven, not only that, you talked about the political precariousness position that many of the leaders of Western Europe are facing, but Zelensky himself is in a precarious position. This is why just last week Zelensky was able to reopen the borders. People know that of course military age men in Ukraine since the war began were not allowed to leave the country. So when we traveled in a couple of times earlier this year, what, what did we see at the train station? It's women and children. The women and children are heading out of Ukraine and, and they've gone into Poland in a large amount and of course further on into Germany and other parts of Western Europe. But now just last week, Zelensky, because of his own political position, position, he's allowed 18 to 20 year old men, 18 to 22 are now allowed to leave Ukraine. You can read this all over the media. You saw videos flooding all over social media. So 18 to 22 year olds now able to leave. This new regulation was just confirmed on August 26th. And that of course doesn't mean that they can't volunteer. They can't necessarily go ahead and say they want to join the military, but it does allow them to leave because the pressure has been building up so much and this has really been the issue from the very start. There's been two in inextricable factors to this entire war that you and I have talked about for three and a half years now, Steve, and that's been energy and manpower. So we talked on the very first day of this how energy strategy and the feckless nature of Western Europe and their ridiculous energy strategy with the windmills and going green and all of this had played a huge role into setting this off. We talked about Greta. She's back in the news again with her new haircut. He man.

[Steve Bannon]

Well, the fetish. Hang on, hang on. The fetish. The fetish of decarbonization. Yes, it's a fetish of decarbonization. That destroyed Germany as a major industrial power. They're in a recession for one reason. They've tried to decarbonize this radical climate agenda. Right. And at the same time being dependent upon Russian natural gas.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, they were getting some cheap Russian natural gas but something happened to that pipeline that no one seems to answer. What exactly happened to that thing by the way? Not, not sure if we can get a straight answer on that one the Danes haven't given us but I think the Danish know, they just know that they're not allowed to say. And you know when you look at the pipeline diplomacy, by the way, if you want to talk short term effects on this of the SEO meeting, when you see, as Xi Jinping called it, the dance of the dragon and the elephant that it's, it's very clear India is going to continue purchasing the cheap oil from Russia, the cheap natural gas. And China, what did they do? They just inked and locked in a pipeline, a new pipeline power. Siberia 2 is going to be crossing Mongolia, going from Siberia directly to where Beijing. So they're locking in and solidifying this relationship. Financial, economic, military, security. And then of course you. And none of this, none of this. If they have these new structures in place, the SEO and the BRICs, you, it's not going to need to flow through any western banks which the Russians aren't going to want to do because what happened the last time they used western banks, everything was frozen. So guess what that means that the war machine keeps, gets to keep pumping. Now I said the second factor of course was manpower, the manpower issue. It is what it is. And the Western by the way Steve, you mentioned the coalition of the unwilling. Well we have the coalition of the unwilling but of course don't forget folks that Britain and France would love to send a bunch of Poles to go and fight in Ukraine. They'd be more than happy to send a 10,000, 20,000 Polish men to go and fight in Ukraine but they're not going to send any of their own people. And why? Because of the political position, position that they're in right now. So when you hear these numbers, we're going to get 20,000 together. We're going to fit. They're talking about Polish people, people, they're talking about sending Polish citizens to go and fight the Russian war machine. And that's the war machine that when you look over in these eastern Russian speaking provinces has continued throughout all of these talks, throughout all of these meetings. They've continued to ground and pound the Ukrainian military in many of these Areas in a few places, by the way, also breaking through. This is a massive frontline, 600 mile front line that they've kept open this entire time. And what are the Russians doing? Just like a, just like, you know, a chess strategy. They're holding back and they're waiting for the Ukrainian military to attempt these counteroffensives. And then when they come forward, they're using their artillery, they're using drones, they're using everything at their command. I was watching some videos last night where they showed that because the targeting has gotten so, so the fidelity of the targeting has gotten so good now that a number of the Ukrainian training forces now have to train underground. They have to put their barracks underground, even deep into the backfield into Lviv. Because whether it's surveillance, whether it's intelligence networks, and of course Russian intelligence is all over western Ukraine the same way. By the way, American intelligence has been there. We know the CIA has been there for a long time. We know that the US Military has been running a lot of this out of that, that, that gymnasium in Germany. So this is really a situation where when, when you talk about, and when we went up to Anchorage and sat down and talked about how it's a Ukraine, Russia war, you really can't extricate the United States from the massive amount of involvement we've had in this. This has been a proxy war from the very start between NATO and Russia.

[Steve Bannon]

And now the game's up because the, and I think that was a great thing about President Trump having the chaperones come because now they've been exposed in all their phoniness, they're barely. Listen. These are governments that wanted and invited in mass migration, the mass invasion from North Africa and the Middle East. And now each one of these governments are teetering on collapse. I think Starmer's approval ratings are in the low 20s. They're talking about Sadiq Khan actually replacing him. Sadiq Khan, the Muslim Brotherhood frontman that has, that has totally changed London. Just like Mandani is going to change New York City when they take over the Red Green alliance of these neo Marxists with the jihadists. You're going to see New York City become the new London. And now you get every Democrat running to endorse, to endorse Zorhan or Zoran. So. But it's the collapse of these governments and they can't provide any manpower. You're seeing the exact same thing in Israel yesterday or Sunday, excuse me, Sunday. And this comes from the Jerusalem Post and the Times of Israel. I think it was a 12 hour cabinet meeting where the IDF is essentially saying, and this is the IDF commander who was pretty blunt in saying, hey, before I came in in March, you had taken 0 of Gaza. I've taken 70% of it since I've been the head of IDF. And he's adamantly opposed, it looks like, to the plan that Netanyahu and these guys have of going door to door in Gaza with the bad actors. But more importantly than having an occupation, he's saying, hey, you're going to have to have a military, basically a military government in Gaza run by the IDF and we can't do it. I mean they had a brutal, they had a brutal cabinet meeting and part of the reason is they just don't have the manpower. Remember, have this huge political issue where they had the young men, the parents didn't want them to fight in Ukraine because they were just being led to the slaughter, slaughterhouse in Israel. You got it differently. I guess the ultra orthodox young men for a host of reasons, culturally, religious, etc. Won't fight or been excluded. Now a lot of the Israeli citizens are against that. They wanted to serve. The IDF just has a massive manpower problem to have to go into Gaza and Gaza is going to be like some of the tough battles in Najaf, in Fallujah, in Iraq where you have to go door to door in these bloody, you know, clearing exercises. Jack Passobec so the manpower issue is massive in Israel right now to finish what they started in Gaza, Sir.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well Steve, not only that, you mentioned the ultra orthodox. This was a key point in Bibi Netanyahu being able to secure right before the Iran campaign began a couple of weeks ago, a couple of months ago. Now, at this point between Israel and Iran, what did we see? We saw this key situation where Bibi Netanyahu's political coalition almost fell apart. But it was that ultra orthodox party that said we will remain with you, but what we want is a carve out. It was about being drafted into the reserves and being sent to fight. And the ultra orthodox in Israel, this has been a longstanding issue of them. It's kind of like the, you know, the Quakers in the United States, you know, we don't fight, we're pacifists, were against that. But even then, because every other and everyone knows about the compulsory military service in Israel, every single other group there says wait a minute, why do you guys get special favors? So the situation has become politically untenable as well as militarily untenable because it is an unpopular War internationally and domestically, it's leading to these fractures and not only within the political governance in the Knesset, but also within the idf. But of course, you're seeing them push forward because. And I believe that Netanyahu firmly believes that this is the best policy for Israel going forward. You saw him starting to release more footage from October 7th over the past weekend, bringing up some of those videos from that October coming up, I think on the second anniversary of all that. I remember when those videos came out and we played what we could at the time of those horrific events. But, you know, now people are looking at two years later and they're saying, wait a minute, we see horrific videos every single day coming out of Gaza. And also when you talk to the soldiers, they're looking at it saying, wait a minute. This would be like going door to door in New Delhi with a populace that is extremely and increasingly hostile to us, many cases fighting for their children. And then, of course, Steve, what do you see from the Christian community, Catholic community? They're staying put.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, Jack, hang on for one second. We're getting to all that. Short break. Jack Posobic is with us this morning in the war room.

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Steve Bannon]

Okay, I see some breaking news. That treasury intensifies pressure on Iranian oil smuggling and sanctions evasion schemes in Iraq. Right. They ought to do it with the Chinese Communist Party. They're doing. If you cut off, you wouldn't have a Iranian or Persian problem. If you stopped allowing the mullahs to get cash flow by selling I think 80% of the energy needs of China right now, as all these other pipelines are being built, it still comes from the mullahs, from Iran. You cut that off and you can cut that off easily because it's supposed to be sanctioned and now supposed to be double sanctioned because of the, because of the Kuwait, because of the Ukraine war. You cut that off, the mullah's drop of cash flow. The Persian people take care of it. It's their call. You know, don't we have enough track record in our long engagement with, with the Shah and everything that that brought to understand is what the Persian people want to do if they, if they want to overthrow these guys. Cut off the cash flow and let's see how it plays out.

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[Steve Bannon]

Bibi is going to try to divert everybody's attention from his own mangled handling of Gaza. This is his responsibility and he can put out all the October 7th videos he wants. What we want to see is an official inquiry into October 7th on this very show, on that very day, in that very moment. Jack Posobec on that Saturday show, who is a naval intelligence officer. Jack, we talked about it. It's just impossible that the Mossad and Shin Ben and American intelligence, it's incredible, right? As bad a job as they've done on the intelligence in Persia, what happened on October 7th still haven't answered the questions. They need to have a Pearl harbor type inquiry into exactly what went on our 911 Commission. Not that the 911 Commission or Pearl harbor ever got to the answers, but it began the process to get to the answers. We haven't, we haven't seen that yet. But Bibi is no doubt right now, his whole thing, he had an interview with Joel Pollack last week. His whole thing is you can't be MAGA and be anti Israel. Look, you can be pro Israel, you can be anti Israel, you can do anything you want. That as long as you're America first and not Israel first, you can be maga. So we don't need a foreign leader, particularly a vassal state. Let me. They are a protectorate. They are a protectorate. You saw this in the 12 Day War. They didn't have the ability, didn't come close to the ability to take out the nuclear enrichment program, including the above ground. The above ground which Navy submarines with Tomahawk missiles, which I might add, Jack, correct me if I'm wrong. The tomahawk is a 1970s technology okay? For the vaunted Israeli Air Force.

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[Steve Bannon]

Ground with Tomahawk missiles from the North Arabian Sea. We also had to protect by sending Aegis Cruisers in our air defense and 25% of our THAAD missile defense to basically provide missile defense for Tel Aviv and other areas. Because the Iron Dome and David Sling and all the stuff they promote didn't work to the degree that the ballistic missiles and what the Iranians and Persians were hitting them with. This is why President Trump did the massive raid. And President Trump is locked in. He's saying, hey, total obliteration, obliteration of their nuclear enrichment program. So end of discussion. They want to have regime change, let the Persian people do it. Or the Israelis, if they can finish what they started and don't need to drag us in, which obviously they need to drag us in. And they're going to try to drag us into Gaza. That's what we have to be on guard about. Because this Gaza thing, as tough as the IDF is, and this commander of the IDF is a pretty tough hombre, when a guy like that saying, hey, I think we really got to think this thing through before we do this. And I don't like the way Bibi and these guys, I mean, he in this meeting, and this is what's reported by the Jerusalem Post and the Times of Israel and even all the right wing bloggers, he threw up to be ing these guys. Where were you guys on October 7th? Where were you on October 8th? Where were you on October 9th? So there's a big gap now you're seeing between the IDF and the politicians, sir.

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, and Steve, you also have President Trump coming out in this really incredible interview. And I've been able to parse through a lot of it with the great Reagan Reese over at Daily Caller Oval Office interview. And he mentions Israel and he says that, and I want to read the quote, they have to get that war over with, but it is hurting Israel. There's no question about it. They may be winning the war, but they're not winning the world of public relations. And it's hurting them. Israel was the strongest lobby 15 years ago that there's ever been and now is, it's been hurt, especially in Congress. So that's, that's President Trump's statement. And we know President Trump obviously has sided with Israel throughout all of this. But at the same time, he's now also pointing out that this is something that he would like to get over with soon.

[Steve Bannon]

You mentioned before I let you go, I know you got to bounce the by the way, supposed to be a big announcement today from the White House at 2pm Barbara, no more calling it live and check you're going to say what, what's the announcement?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, we've the word on the street is that it has to do with defense. I know the Democrats and are claiming that it to do with the president's health, which is amazing by the way because the Democrats spent four years telling us that there was nothing wrong with Joe Biden. I remember watching Joe Scarborough. That's the best Biden I've ever seen up there. He's smart, he's articulate, he's going, he's waxing poetic. Well, you know, Biden can't even find his way off a stage. But, but, and then, and then Trump and Politico playbook this morning, by the way completely lied about the fact that Trump held the longest cabinet meeting on record. They said he had no public events.

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[Jack Posobiec]

I was standing there on the South Lawn for three and a half hours waiting for a meeting to get done. What do you mean no public events? We all watched it like react like a, you know, a marathon episode of the Apprentice or something or going around the room. But you know, I guess Politico just wants to live in their fantasy world. You know, they need to get, need to get some, need to get Dasha and some other people back on that thing because it was good for a minute but now it's, it's, it's going to the dogs for sure.

[Steve Bannon]

Department of War Hey Jack, we have a two minute break at the top of the hour. I'm going to ask you to hold just for a few minutes because I want to talk to you about Christians in the Middle East. There's a discussion among certain parties of a Christian state in the Levant, maybe to parallel the Jewish state. Want to get your thoughts on that short commercial break. Jack Basobik is going to be with us. Dr. Dr. Taylor Marshall is going to join us. We're going to talk about also the details what's going to happen the rest of September. Quite intense, very intense between vaccines, budgets, government shutdown, all of it. Birchgold.com, end of the dollar empire. Go get it. Today. You want to understand why gold is skyrocketing past 3,500. It ain't the price, it's the process. Understand how gold, what forces throughout the world drive the value of gold and why central Banks are buying it at record rates. Birchgold.com, promo code Bannon the end of the dollar empire. The right stuff takes us out. An individual with plenty of the right stuff. Jack Posobec will bring us back in. Short break.

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