Episode 4750: Wagging The Dog And Lies In The Middle East; The Christian Patriot

Summary

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Bannon's War Room Episode 4750 Summary

Title: Wagging The Dog And Lies In The Middle East; The Christian Patriot
Date: September 2, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Guests: Jack Posobiec, Dr. Taylor Marshall

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Episode Overview

This episode draws parallels between the post-World War II American era and current global upheavals, focusing on unrest in the Middle East, Christian persecution, the impact of progressive cultural shifts in the U.S., the rise of populist movements, and the controversial topic of Christian nationalism. Bannon discusses current geopolitical tensions, laments cultural decline in the West, and promotes Dr. Taylor Marshall's new book, Christian Patriot, which advocates for a Christian revival in American public life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. 80th Anniversary of Imperial Japan's Surrender

• Bannon frames the show by recalling WWII’s end (00:50), drawing a line from the geopolitical turbulence of that era to today’s "dying regime."
• He critiques modern leadership, emphasizing that today's U.S. lacks the moral and strategic clarity of its predecessors.

2. Christian Persecution in the Middle East & U.S.

• Bannon and Jack Posobiec discuss violence against Christians both abroad and domestically, including a recent church shooting in the U.S. (01:57–03:09).
• Reports of efforts to form a "Christian state" in the Levant are met with concern over practical security and geopolitical feasibility.

“If you’re going to talk about a new state in the Levant, the utmost question of that … is who’s going to secure it?”
— Jack Posobiec (02:34)

3. Domestic Turmoil: Radical Ideologies & Violence

• Bannon and Posobiec indict mainstream media, specifically NBC News, for focusing on pronoun usage instead of addressing motives behind acts of violence targeting churches and children (03:09–05:19).
• They allege a connection between "radical transgender ideology" and recent violent incidents, and call for a federal law enforcement unit to address "radical trans violence" (05:35).

“Where is the federal law enforcement response to radical trans violence?”
— Jack Posobiec (06:45)

4. Advocacy for Accountability and Cultural Restoration

• Bannon advocates prosecuting those who, in his view, "push" youth into radicalization, including family members, counselors, and media enablers (06:57–08:17).
• He blames what he calls "globalist" and "radical" cultural elites for societal decay, repeatedly citing President Trump as the instrument of necessary cultural "blunt force trauma" (05:19–05:35).

5. Geopolitics: Poland’s Role and American Foreign Policy

• Posobiec previews upcoming speeches on Polish national identity as a model for Western resilience, noting Poland’s refusal to join certain Western coalitions and stressing their pragmatic handling of crises and refugees, especially regarding Ukraine (09:31–11:05).
• The Polish President’s posture—“Poland first”—is contrasted with Western globalism.

“[The Polish president] is coming from a perspective of I’m not with them...That’s the globalists, those are the people who want this war.”
— Jack Posobiec (11:05)

6. Strategic Announcements: Space Command Move

• Bannon and Posobiec interpret Trump's decision to move Space Command to Alabama as both restoring historical precedent and punishing blue states resistant to Trump’s agenda (12:23–13:48).
• They link this move to deeper themes of rewarding loyalty and supporting national heritage.

7. Great Power Realignments and Lessons from History

• Bannon critiques how the postwar order benefited global elites while hollowing out American industry and masculinity (16:59–21:23).
• He links societal alienation among young American men to cultural, economic, and political failures of the current “rules-based order.”
• Bannon draws direct lines between Europe’s “mass immigration,” economic decline, and the rise of populist movements (21:23).

8. Skepticism Toward U.S. Involvement in Middle East Wars

• Expresses disdain for what he views as fabricated justifications for American military interventions, especially in the Middle East and Ukraine. The “big lie” narrative animates his critique of both mainstream media and pro-Israel lobbying (24:50–27:14).

“We’re not going to do...this expansionist program and particularly when you have the situation in Gaza...we still don’t know...how October 7th happened and caught everybody by surprise. I’m not buying that.”
— Stephen K. Bannon (25:45)

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Focus Segment: Christian Nationalism & Dr. Taylor Marshall

(33:25–47:56)

Introduction & Marshall’s Argument

• Bannon introduces Marshall, positioning the concept of Christian nationalism as a lightning-rod topic for the mainstream media.
• Marshall, promoting Christian Patriot, asserts Western decline is correlated with secularization and loss of Christian roots.

“As [the West] becomes less Christian, it becomes worse. That's true of birth rate, it's true of violence, it's true of the economy, it's true of everything.”
— Dr. Taylor Marshall (33:25)

Double Standard & Political Philosophy

• Marshall claims only Christian expressions of national identity are censured in the public square, while other faith-based cultures are celebrated.
• He critiques Thomas Jefferson's “wall of separation” concept, noting it’s not explicit in the founding documents and that America’s original character was overtly Christian (33:25–36:00).

Social Problems & Christian Solutions

• Marshall ties issues like broken families, gender confusion, and violence directly to abandonment of Christian “patrimony.”
• He argues for re-embracing Christian ethical foundations: “If we want to be great, we have to turn to Christ, Christian patriot.” (39:40)

Patriotism Redefined

• Explains the choice of “Christian patriot” over “Christian nationalist,” invoking St. Thomas Aquinas’ definition of patriotism as love for one’s “patria”—fatherland (39:00).
• Stresses that returning to Christian principles is the pathway to cultural renewal and societal well-being.

Critique of Jeffersonian Christianity

• Bannon raises the question: “Could you build a society on the Jefferson Bible?”
• Marshall responds that stripped-down, “milquetoast” Christianity (focused purely on morality and not on Christ's divinity) lacks durability and transformative power (42:39–43:38).

“If Jefferson was alive today, he’d be hand in hand with AOC. That is the liberal kind of milquetoast whitewashed Christianity of the left, the Joe Biden Christianity. It has no teeth…”
— Dr. Taylor Marshall (42:45)

Addressing Motives Behind Attacks

• Both Bannon and Marshall express frustration at media narratives that ignore or obscure the anti-Christian motives behind attacks on churches, emphasizing the need for honesty and cultural clarity (47:39–47:56).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Mainstream Media and Societal Rot:
  “NBC News, their big thing they did over the weekend was say they used the wrong pronouns...That is the disconnect you have in this country between this rising group of kind of populist nationalism...and the establishment.”
  — Stephen K. Bannon (03:09)

• On Law Enforcement Priorities:
  “We need to start seeing from the national and federal law enforcement level a discussion and a unit...directly focused on radical trans violence.”
  — Jack Posobiec (05:35)

• On Western Decline & Christianity:
  "Canada began to go south when they abandoned Christianity. America the same, France the same. It is the common denominator in every single one of these cases.”
  — Dr. Taylor Marshall (39:15)

• On Populist Nationalism:
  “We’re not going to have forever wars because they understand it’s their young men that are going to be the cannon fodder.... The Afghanistan papers...show you all the lies of Afghanistan.”
  — Stephen K. Bannon (22:25)

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:50: Opening remarks; 80th anniversary of WWII’s end
• 01:57–03:09: Jack Posobiec discusses Christian persecution and security issues in the Levant
• 03:09–06:57: Critique of mainstream media; discussion of recent church attacks and alleged ideological roots
• 09:31–11:05: Poland as a role model for Western nations; “Poland First” philosophy
• 12:23–13:48: Trump moving Space Command to Alabama and its cultural significance
• 16:59–21:23: Bannon on deindustrialization and cultural hollowing out of America
• 25:45–28:27: Skepticism of U.S. involvement in foreign wars; critique of U.S.–Israel dynamics
• 33:25–47:56: Dr. Taylor Marshall discusses ‘Christian patriotism’ and Christian roots of the West, critiques of secular governance, and solutions
• 47:39–47:56: Final exchange on honesty in public debate regarding motives for violence against Christians

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Conclusion

This episode blends critique of postwar American and Western policy, cultural lament over secularization and societal change, and advocacy for a Christian revival in public and private life. The conversation with Dr. Taylor Marshall foregrounds the idea of “Christian patriotism” as an alternative to hollow, secular nationalism. Bannon and guests interweave historical reflection, geopolitical commentary, and fierce critiques of mainstream cultural and political elites, elevating calls for accountability, national renewal, and re-centering of Christian values in American life.

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Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it.

[Steve Bannon]

I know you don't like hearing that.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

I wish that any of these had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Jack Posobiec]

WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen k. Banner.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, Tuesday, 2nd, September, the year of lore 2025. It's the 80th commemoration of the surrender of Imperial Japan aboard the USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay 80 years ago today. And we're going through what that war is about and where we are today, particularly all the major developments over the weekend. Jack Posobic and myself will be speaking at a couple of events. We're going to get to that in a second. But Jack, because I got Taylor Marshall, Dr. Taylor Marshall, going to join me in a moment. Walk me through the Christian part of these wars that are going on right now. There's a lot of, you know, Jason Jones and a lot of the folks that are looking out for the Christians in Israel and the Middle east are getting me a lot of information about how there's a lot of discontent over there right now. You've got the creative destruction media guys who are all in Lebanon and Syria saying there's a movement over there to form a Christian state in the Levant. Of course, that's in the very early stages, but at least it's being talked about. Your thoughts on all this?

[Jack Posobiec]

Well, Steve, look, you know, as a Catholic, as someone who really cares a lot about Christians all over the world and Christian persecution, also someone who, you know, as a Christian in America, we now have to deal with the fact that we have child martyrs on our own soil just as of last week. And in fact, our priest was talking about that this, this week at our parish, just our parish mass. But at the same time, you know, we do have to look in, in both of those situations, it comes down to security. So it comes down to how do you secure these things. That land there in the Middle east, it's been war torn since the days of Christ himself, when he was walking the land, when the Romans, of course, were there and even the Romans continued to fight, and then was Byzantium, and they continued to fight. Then you got the Ottomans came in, finally the British. And now, of course, the situation is where it is. So I think the question, of course, is if you're going to talk about a new state in the Levant, the utmost question of that, because we, of course, want to see Christians protected. But the question of practicality in reality is who's going to secure it? That's. That'd be my biggest question.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

You know, you talked about the, the children martyrs here. NBC News. The biggest thing they did over the weekend was issue a correction to their story where they didn't call the guy that did the shooting, that shot, what, 115 rounds into this church at these small children. Their biggest news event was not because they still haven't found a motive, Jack. Remember, they're searching for a motive. They're searching for a motive for this young guy who was clearly tormented and realized there had been a horrible mistake, he had been brainwashed. And, you know, you read his manifesto, he talks about it, right? How he wants to convert back and how he made a horrible mistake and how, you know, he was brainwashed and you see the agony in his writings. But of course, the mainstream media doesn't want to look at the reason for this. But NBC News, their big thing they did over the weekend was say that they used the wrong pronouns in talking about this guy. That's the thing, that he used the female pronouns. And they apologized to their readers for not doing that. That is the disconnect you have in this country between this rising group of kind of populist nationalism, which is not going to put up with this crap anymore. Right? And this is one of the great things that President Trump is doing. We're just tired of it. And you're destroying society. And you can see they're targeting so many of these. Some of this violence have come from these, this radical transgender ideology that's been foisted on these kids. And they're rebelling against it. One of the reasons, the way they're rebelling against it is they want to kill themselves and take down as many people as possible. So this is what we're fighting for in the West. That's why you have to put America first and American citizens first. If we do that, the rest is going to take care of itself. The problem is we've cut the core of this country. We've hollowed out culturally, society wise, the societal, economically.

[Steve Bannon]

Right.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The core of this country. And if it wasn't for President Trump. And people go, he's doing this, he's doing that. They had like, hey, he's a very imperfect instrument, but he's. He's delivering blunt force trauma to the globalist, sir.

[Jack Posobiec]

You know, Steve, when it comes down to this as a country, and I saw the. The President's White House counterterrorism director, Sebastian Gorka on cnn raising this, and I completely agree with his statement that we need to start seeing from the national and federal law enforcement level a discussion and a unit set up at the national law enforcement level directly focused on radical trans violence. There's been too many shootings. There's been too many killers. Look, we used to have a problem with serial killers in this country back in the 1970s. We didn't make excuses for it. We didn't apologize for, you know, you know, Jeffrey Dahmer and using the wrong pronouns for Jeffrey Dahmer. No, we went after them and we talked about it as a society, and we put our resources at the federal level against it. I would love to see, you know, an FBI unit, whatever the most appropriate use would be, that's dedicated to going after these networks and these groups because these attacks are. Are eerily similar. They're happening all over the country. You keep seeing information about message boards and different areas where people are discussing attack vectors and types of attacks. So where is the federal law enforcement response to radical trans violence?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Well, the best response, I think, today for Cash and Dan Bongino and Seb, if you said that you're the head of counterterrorism, arrest the mother today. She's an accessory to murder. Okay. She's an accessory to murder of what she did to this young kid. Right. What she allowed to happen and kind of what she drove to happen because the mother left. I got an answer. Indict her. Indict her and arrest her. Indict her and arrest her. And let her defense lawyer give some answers. Let her give some answers. When she's in the docket on the murder trial. Right. She's an accessory to murder.

[Steve Bannon]

Flat.

[Jack Posobiec]

We need to see what's going on. Mom and dad, because it looks like the mom left a couple of years ago. So we need to figure out what's going on.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yeah, but she's. If you look at all the. If you look at all the different postings and things like that, she was deep part of this. Anyway, I'm open. I'm open to have a counter argument, but I think they ought to move to arrest her. She's an assessor, you Got to get following the guy, get the psychiatrist. You got to get the school counselors. You get everybody that nudges us along. Right, NBC News with your right pronouns. Anybody that pushes this along, this radical transgender ideology that we've been on with Brandon Showalter and these guys at the Christian Post and Dr. Miriam Grossman and others for years and years and years. Now you're, now you're absolutely correct.

[Steve Bannon]

They're coming. They're coming to kill.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

They want to take out as many and they particularly focused on small children. I have no idea. They ought to interview her and then arrest her.

[Jack Posobiec]

I'd love to hear about this.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

The world works in mysterious. The FBI works in mysterious ways. Jack, you're giving two talks tomorrow at this Polish conference and then at the National Conservative Conference. I think you're at 9 o' clock on Thursday. I'll be at both of these, though, at different times than Jack, talk to me about the Polish conference, your ideas. And then the National Conservative Conference conference that starts today. We were going to live stream, but it turns out they're not live streaming. So I kind of told people, I think I put it up actually on Getter, we're going to live stream, but they're recording it, but not live streaming it. And about the tonight at 7 o', clock, 7:30 we're going to begin.

[Jack Posobiec]

Guys there. We'll, we'll have guys there so we might be able to, to provide assets.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, perfect. And I'll talk to raf too, also. 7:30 tonight we're going to do the parade in Beijing with the new federal state. We'll be putting that up on Getter and Rumble. Jack, so what time do you speak tomorrow?

[Jack Posobiec]

So tomorrow it'll be, I think, 1111, 1130 Eastern. And we're going to be talking all about the role and I would even say the example that Poland shows us of a country in the west that has protected and defended its culture and its heritage against all threats, you know, foreign and domestic. And they've shown us how real freedom operates for a group of people who have only really had their own country back in control of themselves for the last 30 years. And then, yes, Thursday morning I'll be delivering a speech on a similar topic at the National Conservatism Conference. But there I'm going to talk about how we in America can remember what it means to be an American and how we should be thinking about that question from a public policy perspective.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Jack, it's very interesting that the Polish president did not want to come over with the Chaperones, what, two weeks ago. But he's coming over now. And Poland doesn't have a migrant, they don't have a migrant, they have a migrant invasion. They don't have a migrant crisis, they don't have a financial crisis. They are really the most level headed when it comes to fastest growing thinking about the Ukraine, they've taken more, they, they've taken more refugees from Ukraine than anybody. I think that's getting to be a problem now. Why is it so important that he wasn't with the chaperones but he's coming today and speaking from a position of strength, not weakness like they were.

[Jack Posobiec]

Look, he's, he's coming from a perspective of I'm not with them, I'm not part of their coalition, whatever. That, that's the globalists, those are the people who want this war, who want to pursue this thing. Whereas what is President Novrotsky talked about? He's talked about and by the way, no fan of Russia, right? No fan of Moscow. But he's come in and he said, wait a minute, I'm Poland first. That is my through line on all of this. And if these refugees are becoming a burden in terms of what we've done for them over the years, if they are becoming, if they're not holding up their weight because we can't doesn't sign a blank check forever, then we're going to have to deal with that. And no, he's, he campaigned on the idea that no Polish citizen will be pushed or forced or sent deployed into Ukraine. That is their war. And in fact, he's talked about talking about World War II. He said, you know, there's a couple of questions that we, polls still have left unanswered about the massacres of Polish villages, women, children and babies and at the hands of people like Stepan Bandera and these ultra nationalists that are paraded and celebrated by the Zelensky government, by the Maidan government. We got a couple of questions that kind of are unresolved that need to be fixed before we move forward in this relationship.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

John Solomon has breaking news. Jack, I'd like to get your take on it. He's reporting that President Trump intends to move Space Command from Colorado to Alabama. I think that'll be part of the 2 o' clock announcement. Your thoughts are, what are they going.

[Jack Posobiec]

To call it, the Von Braun center over there at Redstone Arsenal? Yeah, that's where we had the original. Right, that was, that's back to the original. You know, they used to say, Steve, that they used to say the reason that Space Command was in Colorado was that of course it was closer to space. So that was the, that was the initial read there. But, but no, moving it, moving it to Alabama. I love that. Get it to a red. Why, why should we, why should President Trump reward blue states? Why should President Trump reward states that have gone that have not been helpful with ice, that have not been helpful with the federal government, that don't do anything about crime? Why should they reward them? And when you look at Redstone Arsenal, when you look at Von Braun and Operation Paperclip and everything that they did with the Apollo program and the V2 system down there, there is a rich, absolutely rich history of space and America's mission into space. This is and should be the preeminent mission. And when you look at this, by the way, going back to what we said at the very beginning here, where is an area that the US and Russia can work together? Obviously it has and always been pushing further into space.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

By the way, Colorado. Also, also, Jack, as you know, one of the most radical states about the transgender ideology. Jack, where do people get all your content? The 2 o' clock show, your speeches, your social media, where your books? All of it, sir.

[Jack Posobiec]

We'll be up Human Events Daily. If President Trump's Department of War announcement preempts us, then of course make sure you lock in on the podcast side on Human Events Daily, Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast, Rumble will be up there no matter what.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Department of War when we used to win these things, unconditional surrender 80 years ago against a pretty tough.

[Jack Posobiec]

Hey Steve, how many flag officers, by the way? How many, how many, how many flags?

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Was it about a tenth of what we got today? About a tenth?

[Jack Posobiec]

Yeah. 07.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you, sir.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Jack Posobiec]

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[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

On getter. Tonight at 7:30 the new federal state of China will be putting up. They're going to be streaming this victory parade in from China, the Chinese Communist Party hosting it. Putin's going to be there and this is, I mean the 80th commemoration. I think we're it today, folks. I don't know any other TV show that's doing that. I really want to thank my great production team here and in Denver for putting together that cold open where we intercut what happened 80 years ago with the surrender of the Japanese, intercut it with what happened at the Shanghai conference in China. That is that Shanghai group, which is kind of what the Chinese Communist Party put together years ago around trade and around one belt, one road. They're an economy absolutely in a free fall domestically and that's why Xi is very from a politician that's got a big problem is trying to go uber nationalist and jack up his the folks in China to stop worrying about this horrible economic situation they have and focus on Taiwan or what he's doing as leader of the world. They're trying to take today during this parade and that's what we'll be giving commentary to take really ownership of the victory in World War II of which the Chinese Communist Party had virtually nothing to do with if you read the history of General Stilwell in China and the China Burma, India front was a massive front in the Second World War. In fact, much of the bombing of what brought Japan eventually to its knees, besides the naval blockade and the submarines, were the unrestricted warfare bombing of Japan that started roughly around, I don't know, March of 1945. That led to the nuclear weapons being dropped to basically destroy the industrial power of the Japanese war machine. A lot of that initially took place from airfields in China that the China Burma called the CBI Front, which was a horrific part of the war. If you saw the fighting in Burma, if you've ever seen the film the Bridge on the River Kwai of what the Japanese did forcing slave labor, this is what General Percival and General Wainwright. General Percival surrendered Singapore and then he was put in one of these camps as his troops with many others built of Allied forces were forced to build the railroad to basically take the Japanese to India to try to take the jewel of the crown of the British Empire, which they failed to do, but not after killing hundreds of thousands of people. That front was all important. Very little participation by the Chinese Communist Party at all. Chinese Communist Party spent their time biding their time and if they had to attack the Japanese, they did. But principally they fought the Nationalist troops and then after the war gathered their strength and eventually had a civil war against the Nationalists and General Marshall and the State Department. The State department, as Senator McCarthy showed us was rife, was infested with communists and people that were sympathetic and bought into the pitch of the Communists that they were just agrarian reformers and nothing was going to happen. And you see what happened. The murderous dictatorship they set up, just like the Ayatollah, remember the State Department backing the Shah of Iran, completely misread the situation, completely misread the Islamic revolt and how bad the mullahs are. And you know, I've been an anti mullah guy from day one, but that has to come from the Persian people. You can't have a decapitation strike that just takes it out because you're just going to galvanize people to support it even more. It has to come from folks in Iran, folks in Persia that have lived under the boot of this thing for what, almost 50 years now, going on 45 years. 50 years. So on the geopolitics of the day, I think the people that were the architects of the victory in World War II would be not disappointed, they'd be furious and would not be about.

[Steve Bannon]

What.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Went on with the Chinese Communist Party. And the KGB and Putin and Xi and Heaven Modi show up, you'd be furious about what are the forces that drove that in particular here in the United States of America, this post war international rules based order that took care of the elites in every country and had the American people underwrite it and gutted this country. Gutted this country from a manufacturing point of view and also gutted it from a cultural point of view where young men in the United States, whether you're white, black, Hispanic, young men in the United States think the world's against them. You know why? The way the rules of the game are set up here, it is against them. And they can see that. They understand it. That's why this generation of young men, 18 to 30, are the most based generation in history, I think, of this country. Why? Because they see what they see how society driven by the government and the elites in this country, the cultural elites tried to destroy them and failed. Why did it fail? It wasn't help we gave them. Wasn't help. You know, God bless President Trump, the MAGA movement, all of it fighting and trying to do it. It was their resistance saying, no, we're going to. You know, you keep trying to drug us, you keep taking away shop and recess and everything that makes a little boy into a man, right? You take away Hollywood, you take away all of our role models, you make the dad the joke of every sitcom. Culturally, you do it, it's just a poison that drips and drips and drips like an acid. We've had a revolt against that. This is one of the things you're seeing in Europe right now. Europe, these political elites invited in a mass invasion of third World people from third World countries that had no concept, no interest in assimilating. And they've driven their economies to the verge of bankruptcy in England and France in doing this. And now they want the United States, who has underwritten World War I, their bailout in World War I, World War II, the Cold War. You want us to bail them out again? It's not going to happen. People United States, you got to get, you got to, you got to sort out your own mess. And that's why you see these populist parties that are coming up and arising, these populist nationalist parties want to have forever wars because they understand it's their young men that are going to be the cannon fodder. And God bless the volunteers, the volunteers that went into the army, volunteers during these wars of choice because they were told it was in defense of their country. Go to section 60. Think of the 13 Marines and Army that died, that died at Abbey Gate. Think of the dedication they had to the country in Afghanistan. And look what the political leaders did. The hash they made of that, the hash they made of Iraq. The lies and misrepresentations. Don't take it from me, the Afghanistan papers, the Washington Post shows you all the lies of Afghanistan. I had time to have that put in my grill. My time in the White House when we tried to get out of Afghanistan in the first year of President Trump's administration. Just bald faced lies. The same thing in Iraq. You got the Bush and you got all the Bush, the Boltons of the world. All these people that lied about Iraq and getting us into Iraq. The lies and misrepresentations, the same types of lies you see now trying to get us into a land war in Iran, which we're not going to do. We're not going to do. And Bibi Netanyahu and these guys can throw the toys out of the pram and they can say everything they want. Mark Levin, Tel Aviv Levin can put up everything he wants. It's not going to happen. President Trump said it yesterday in this amazing interview with the Daily Caller. The Israel lobby used to be all powerful. It ain't all powerful anymore because they're a protectorate. And protectorate does not get the right. You don't call the shots. We call the shots. The American people call the shots. And we're going to do what's in the best interest of the United States of America and the Judeo Christian West. And part of that is not being, not this expansionist program and particularly when you have the situation in Gaza which was brought about. We still don't know, we still don't have any understanding of how October 7th happened and caught everybody by surprise. I'm not buying that. And particularly the excuse that's given, oh well, the Mossad, they're so focused on Iran that you didn't even think about the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas. That's a lie. That's a bald faced lie. You can sell that to Fox News. You ain't going to sell it here. Okay? And I don't care what you call us, I don't care what we refer to, we're winning on this one. And President Trump gets it. That's why he had the massive strike to take out the uranium enrichment program that was so urgent, so urgent. They were so close to a bomb and so close to a bomb. They were going to deliver them to San Francisco or New York City.

[Steve Bannon]

So close.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

That close. That close. Which is also a lie. But President Trump took it out with a massive expeditionary force and the good old United States Navy and the submarine force hitting them with 30 Tomahawk cruise missiles. Everything about the lie about this is in those Tomahawk missiles. Those were above ground facilities. Why were they not taken out a long time before we got called in? Bottom line, finish what you started. Finish what you started and don't look to bring us in. The guys in Europe, you started this war in Ukraine. You drove, you drove into Ukraine with the EU and NATO, right? You started it. Hey, Putin and these guys are bad hombres. Nobody's defending them.

[Steve Bannon]

But you brought it. You brought it.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And now you see exactly what's happened. And you've got the same situation in Gaza, same situation in the Persian war. We need to take care of what's right here now. The city, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York City, they are priorities. Also the cartels. Somebody's taking an expanded view of the cartels because right now we have an amphibious readiness group with 4,000 sailors. The IWO Jima amphibious readiness group is off the coast of Venezuela with 4,000 soldiers and marines and, and a Marine expeditionary force and discuss what's going on. Dr. Taylor Marshall is going to be here with a concept that the mainstream media hates and that is Christian nationalism. He's got a new book out called Christian patriot. Dr. Taylor Marshall, next in the war room. So.

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[Rav]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Rav]

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[Steve Bannon]

I went to prison so you won't have to.

[Rav]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

Okay, this is we're kicking this off. We're going to be live the 12th and the 13th up in the New York City area out on Long Island. Looking forward to everybody going to be there on Saturday. Peter Navarro is going to join us for a special. We're going to do the show live ten to noon. We're going to do show live on Friday evening and then we're going to do the show live on Saturday morning, our Saturday show. And then Peter Navarro is going to join us for doing it for live, talking about his book and other things, the administration, what's going on as he's the number one guy helping President Trump on his on his tariffs. Want to thank also patriot mobile folks. 972patriot go make the switch today. Stop giving your money to people that hate you. If you like what's happening in Texas, particularly if you like the redistricting, other things are going on through their political pack. They work on a lot of these things. Glenn Story is one of the real leaders down there. I want to thank Glenn and his entire team, but they are also the best mobile service out there. Go check today with a customer rep, a sales rep who happens to be a United States citizen. So go check it out today. 972 Patriot Get a free month free. Get a month free. When you say, hey, the war room sent me so go check it out today. Dr. Taylor Marshall I think of everything that's going on still one of the most radioactive phrases is Christian nationalism. If you want to have the mainstream media MSNBC's head blow up. It's this topic, but clearly what's going on in the Middle east, we got to sort that. We got to really sort it through exactly what we're trying to accomplish, why we're trying to accomplish it. And also think about here in the America first movement, when you see this radical transgender ideology, what they've done to young men in this country, how they've tried to destroy them. We've got to get our act together here. And this new book, you got a Christian patriot? You got 12 steps of how to put what Christ in the middle of the country. Are you Dr. Marshall? Aren't you just another version. Aren't you just a Christian version of Ayatollah Khomeini who wanted to put a theocracy into Persia and has done it for the. When the Shah fell, has done it for the last. And folks had no earthy idea how bad that was going to be. All the happy talk of the Carter administration, we can work with these guys. He's a moderate. There's all these moderates there. And they started standing up and shooting him, I think, immediately after they took over. So the argument for Christian nationalism, are you just arguing for a Christian ayatollah, sir?

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

Of course not. I mean, if you look at Europe, you look at America, you look at the west, as it becomes less Christian, it becomes worse. That's true of birth rate, it's true of violence, it's true of the economy, it's true of everything. Because the best nation, the best way that we could live is in conformity with God's will. And God's will is revealed through Jesus Christ. And, you know, we have people that say, oh, you know, Muslim nations, they have Muslim culture, that's great. Israel has Jewish culture, that's great. But if you say, oh, you have a Christian majority nation, they should have Christian culture, Christian norms, Christian laws. People say, no, that's fascist, that's evil, you can't do that. And so there's a double standard in the world right now where it's assumed that Christians cannot form culture and form society and even form governance based on their faith. But Muslims and Hindus and Jews can. And that's a big double standard. So in this book, Christian Patriot, I'm calling that out and I'm challenging people of goodwill, and especially Christians, to realize that we have a 2000 year treasury of Christian political theory, political philosophy, theology, about what is the relationship between church and state and can there be integration and what are the limits of that? And I think especially American Christians are not fully plugged into that tradition. So the first part of the book gives a crash course on the Christian political philosophy or the theology of the church and the state. And I do some analysis on the American founding. And I really go after Thomas Jefferson. I think he was a cruel man. He did not have a good moral life. He did have some good thoughts. But, you know, he was very Antichrist. He was very anti Christian. There's a Jeffersonian Bible, I'm sure you know about that, Steve, where he basically goes through with a black Sharpie and just removes everything supernatural, everything that he thinks Jesus didn't do. He rejects the resurrection, he rejects the Trinity, he rejects the divinity of Jesus Christ. And so Jefferson is the one who erected what he calls the wall of the separation of church and state. And it's not actually in our founding documents. If you look at the first 13 colonies, many of them are requiring belief in the Trinity, belief in the Old and New Testament to hold office. Even when we get past 1776 and in the first 13 states, we see all that still happening. We are a Christian nation. And to the extent that we leave behind that legacy, we will become not great, we will become worse. And so I wanna challenge the conservative movement. What are we living for? Why do we believe marriage is what marriage is? Because God revealed that, you know, why do we believe in a higher birth rate? Because God said, be fruitful and multiply. Why are we against pornography? Why are we in favor of parental rights? Why do we want to end abortion? You know, why do we want to end human trafficking? It comes from our Christian ethos. Jesus Christ taught the Beatitudes, the Sermon on the Mount. It's the most beautiful message to ever given to the world. And why wouldn't you want to live in a society that's based on the Beatitudes and the Sermon on the Mount and the message of love in the form of sacrifice, which is who Jesus Christ is. The way, the truth, and the life. So I want to challenge our political philosophy as conservatives, as Americans. And this book is written to all people. It's not just an American take this is. This is Christian politics. And, you know, there's been dozens and dozens of nations from the time of Constantine up until the first and Second World War, where there was Christian civilization and Christian laws and governance and customs. And, you know, who benefited the most from that? The next generation. The children and the families. And that's what we're losing in 2025. We just had a massive shooting in A church. And it's not the first one. These are happening over and over and over. Why? Because there is a hatred of God. There is a hatred of Christ in these young people who are confused about gender and religion and faith and society. And what is a man and what is a woman and marriage? And, you know, this young man who was a transgender, who shot up the church, his parents divorced at age 11, and they say that's what just sent him into a downward spiral. You know, we have to talk about what is matrimony? Is it just a good idea? Is it a sacrament? Is it for life? Is it a man and a woman? So all of this goes back to our Christian roots, our Christian basis. It goes back to Christendom. And America is great because we come from that Christendom tradition. Our understanding about human rights and our understanding about flourishing as a civilization and leaving something better to our children and our grandchildren that is rooted in the pages of sacred Scripture. Yes, natural law is important, but what really makes us great is Christianity. And I think, you know, moving into four years from now and eight years now in the political cycle, you're starting to see young people, in particular, young men. And you talk a lot about it, Steve. You see young men who are completely disillusioned about marriage, about homeownership, about the economy, about war. Where are we going? We have abandoned our Christian legacy, our patrimony. And this is the generation that's waking up and saying, there's nothing left in the bank account. We're coming to the end. And what we need to do is we need to revivify our nation and go back to what makes us great, and that is Christianity. That's what we need. We need Christ. And so the name of the book is Christian Patriot. I didn't name it Christian Nationalism. It's kind of a controversial term, Christian nationalism. And the reason I chose Christian patriotism is St. Thomas Aquinas says that patriotism, he uses that term patriotism in the 13th century is a sub virtue under justice. And patriotism is loving your patria. Patria is a Latin word meaning fatherland, based on the word pater, like patriarch. And so when you think about what does it mean to be a citizen or what does it mean to be American? Loving your fatherland nation is natus, what you're born into. Patria is the legacy you receive from your father. And ultimately that's rooted up in God the Father. So there's this trinitarian element to patriotism and honoring your father and honoring your mother and so if we can get back to thinking about being a citizen in terms of patriotism, loving the patria, loving the fatherland, that begins to speak to every single issue that we face as conservatives everywhere in the West, America, Europe, Canada, everywhere. Canada began to go south when they abandoned Christianity. America the same, France the same. It is the common denominator in every single one of these cases. So if we want to be great, we have to turn to Christ, Christian, patriot.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Let's go back to Jefferson for a second, because Jefferson's a child of the Enlightenment and many of the founders were correct and our founding documents are imbued with certain enlightenment. You know, the substrate is of the Enlightenment. When Jefferson made his Bible, correct me if I'm wrong, he went through, he just took a Bible and he cut out everything that was transcendent. He actually kept, I think, the Beatitudes. He took everything of, of Jesus as a social justice warrior. Jesus as he preached is the practical things that he talked about. And I think he laid that as a predicate of what the country and what western civilizations have base themselves on. He took out, I think, all the exorcisms, Jesus fight against Satan, anything transcendent with Jesus as the, as the son of the living son of God. Could you build, is Jefferson right? To a degree. Could you build a society upon the Jefferson Bible that talks about the good that Christ did on his life, on his three years of his time preaching and what he preached of man, of how one to live with one's brother, right? That God above all things. And simply when they asked him in the right before he died, they asked him to sum up his teaching. He said, God above all things and your neighbor as yourself. And none of the smart alecks in the temple could come back on that. You know, love God with your whole heart, your whole being, and treat your neighbor as yourself, which is the underlying precepts of Christianity. Could you build a society on that and not have. Have to buy into the transcendence of Jesus Christ as the living Son of God and someone who brought the new covenant with him? Sir.

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

I think if you asked Jesus Christ that, I mean, it's his sermon, it's his Beatitudes. Hey, can I just accept the Beatitudes, but reject the mission and the purpose for why you became man? And that is to redeem mankind, the forgiveness of sins? I think Jesus Christ would say, no, it's all or nothing. It's who I am. And really, if those who ex, who do that project, the Jeffersonian project, I think if Jefferson was alive today, he'd be hand in hand with aoc. All right, that is the liberal kind of milquetoast whitewashed Christianity of the left, the Joe Biden Christianity. It has no teeth, it has no strength, it has no endurance because it doesn't speak to the hard issues. Like when we talk about what is marriage, what is matrimony, what is a human, when does life begin? Pro life issues. And then also some of the hard hitting issues that are affecting young people today like pornography, human trafficking, debt, inflation.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Doctor, Dr. Marshall, hang on for one second. Take a short break. Dr. Taylor Marshall is with us.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

You can follow me on X at my name or on Dr. Taylor Marshall YouTube and you can buy it at Amazon or Barnes and Noble. But we also are doing a special discount over at Christian Patriot book.com if you want the signed copy. Harrison Butker, Kansas City Chiefs super bowl champion, has written the forward. You can get limited signed editions signed by me and by Harrison and we have a 20% off band in 20@christian patriot book.com christian patriotbook.com you can get those. Yeah, today's opening day and yeah, it's exciting. We've hit a number one on, on Amazon and it's going great. I think this is a message that's resonating with people and especially Christians are thinking, yeah, we want to live in a Christian society. And I think this gives you 12 easy steps for everyone in their own personal lives and socially to implement to bring about a Christian civilization, which is really what we want for ourselves, our children and our grandchildren. You can get it [e-mail].

[Stephen K. Bannon]

We have to have it. Look at that, look at that. Look at, look at Minneapolis. I know. Look at the way it was presented. Look at, look at day after day. You know, we're still looking for a, a motive. Can't find a motive. Can't find a motive.

[Dr. Taylor Marshall]

Yeah, he wrote the motive on his gun. It's on the gun. You can read the motive everywhere. Yeah, and he shot up a church. That's a motive as well. Like he's obviously against God and, and we have to start highlighting this once again if we're going to leave in a peaceful and prosperous society.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

And little kids at Mass. He knew exactly what he was doing. Knew exactly what he was doing. Dr. Marshall, thank you so much. Look forward to having tomorrow. Dave, Brad's going to join us. Important conversation need to have here in the war room. Did I mention the mother should be arrested immediately as being an accessory to murder? Yep. That's what, that's what I believe and I'm sticking to it. Okay. And NBC News, you're a disgrace to come back after a couple days. Everything's gone on and how you've misrepresented what really happened and what happened to this young man and how much he hated it and how much he was disgusted with himself and the propaganda he believed. And your big reveal is that you come back and apologize. Making a correction for his pro. You had his pronouns wrong. This shows you the rot in our society among our elites and why you have to purge it. No other way. And President Trump is doing that, purging the institutions. It sees the institutions and purge them. Here's what President Trump as far and deep as we get into this with the deep state administration, state, there's no going back. They understand this. The left and the globalists understand it. There's no going back. There is no going back. That's what we have to move with urgency and we have to have President Trump's back. And it's not going to be blue skies every day. It's not going to be great. It's not going to all fall in line like you wanted to. But we're making progress this week. We're getting into the facts and we got so much to go on going on as everybody's back to work. Mike Lindell, haven't seen your lovely face in a couple of weeks. And where do you end up? At the White House.

[Steve Bannon]

Somebody, somebody, somebody calls security.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

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[Mike Lindell]

Well, I've got a lot of meetings today and tomorrow on our election platform, Steve, as everybody knows, we want to get them secure before these midterms before the primaries. So working on that. And I have a couple other meetings here that are that we surprise the war room maybe later in the week. And I'm here with Lindell tv, that's him out here today. And I want to say this. I just talked to the mayor, the mayor, Rudy Giuliani, as you know, he all got in that car accident. He's going to be doing his show tonight, everybody. So if you tune in Lindell tv, he will be on live. And, and isn't it great to see that the president's given the Presidential Medal of Freedom Award. And we're just so blessed to have him as part of our network. And so, yeah, very excited.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Rudy got a little banged up, but, yeah, I talked to Andrew and Dr. Ryan, everybody. He's doing much better. He's not going to miss a beat on Lindell tv. You are doing a show tonight and the great news that the President is awarding Rudy Giuliani the highest civilian award you can give, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. That's one of the things that people around Rudy have pushed for for a long time. So it's fantastic. And we'll cover all, all the walk up to that. And I want to run up to that. Just amazing.

[Mike Lindell]

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[Stephen K. Bannon]

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