Episode 4757: Dinner With AI; Tech Bro's Take The White House

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Episode 4757: Dinner With AI; Tech Bro's Take The White House

Date: September 5, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Podcast: WarRoom.org

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Overview

This episode of Bannon’s War Room deconstructs two central events: the contentious Senate hearing with Secretary of Health and Human Services Bobby Kennedy on COVID-19 vaccines, and an exclusive White House dinner featuring “tech bros”—leading Silicon Valley figures like Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates—hosted by President Trump. Stephen K. Bannon and his guests critique the public health establishment, mainstream media, and big tech’s influence on American governance and civil liberties, all while framing the discussion within the “information war” and broader MAGA-MAHA movement.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Senate Hearing Showdown: Bobby Kennedy Under Fire

• Bobby Kennedy, now Secretary of HHS, was intensely grilled by Senate members, notably for his stance on COVID-19 vaccines and his refusal to recommend them for healthy people under 65.
• Senators accused Kennedy of contradicting his confirmation promise to not remove vaccine access from anyone who wants it, with heated exchanges over regulatory policy and scientific data (03:52–05:37; 47:06–49:43).
• Kennedy’s Responses: He deflected demands for definitive claims about vaccine efficacy or pandemic death tolls, citing “data chaos” at CDC and lack of trustworthy statistics.
• Key Arguments:
  • Refusal to Recommend without Data: “We're not going to recommend a product for which there's no clinical data for that indication.” — Bobby Kennedy [04:29]
  • Vaccine Accessibility Debate: Conflict over whether the new guidelines limit practical access for individuals and insurance coverage.
• Mary Holland Analysis: The hearing was labeled an “inquisition,” with Kennedy showing “magnificent and courageous” resolve against orchestrated political attacks (41:39, 43:04).

2. Critique of Big Tech and the White House Dinner

• On the same day as the Senate hearing, the White House hosted a dinner with tech leaders (Zuckerberg, Gates, Sachs), which Bannon described as tone-deaf and politically damaging for Trump (32:00–38:13).

• Bannon’s Central Criticisms:

  • Tech elites are “progressive Democrats” who “hate the American people” and act as a “nest of vipers.”
  • Big Tech is depicted as instrumental in pandemic-era censorship, vaccine mandates, and election interference.
  • Hosting these figures while Kennedy faced Senate scrutiny is portrayed as a betrayal of the MAGA/MAHA movement, calling into question the loyalty and wisdom of Trump’s advisors (36:29–38:13).

• Notable Quote:

  • “Zuckerberg was one of the leading elements of stealing the 2020 election. We need to adjudicate that and put him in prison. Bill Gates is an out of control demon. And what he’s done on vaccines, on the day that we’re having the biggest central fight of the Maha movement…” — Steve Bannon [37:30]

3. The Information War and the MAGA-MAHA Coalition

• Bannon positions the movement as being entrenched in an existential “information war” with mainstream media, health bureaucrats, and Silicon Valley (24:35–26:00).
• Blames Big Tech for collaborating with “Big Pharma” and government agencies to suppress dissent during the pandemic, including direct references to censorship of figures like Bobby Kennedy [38:13–40:08].
• Stresses that American citizens, not global corporations or imported labor, should be the focus of U.S. policy (40:22-41:39).
• Urges listeners to actively support Kennedy and ensure MAGA/MAHA remain unified and uncorrupted by establishment interests (52:03).

4. Economic and Geopolitical Concerns

• Bannon briefly addresses global economic trends, including the implications of the BRICS nations’ challenge to the U.S. dollar and ongoing economic policy debates in Congress.
• Warns that tech-driven job displacement (AI, H1B visas) and unchecked corporate power threaten American workers and sovereignty (40:22–41:39).

5. Historical Analogies & Urgency

• Parallels drawn between 1930s Germany and current American “habituation” to the loss of freedoms; cautions against “step by step” erosion of civil liberties (07:50–08:24).
• References to WWII and American sacrifice to reinforce the theme of existential struggle, both against foreign and domestic threats (09:02).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Big Tech’s Role in Pandemic Censorship:
  “Those guys during COVID collaborated completely with the administration to censor people. The administration violated the First Amendment. Those guys violated all kinds of laws to suppress. Bobby Kennedy… they cut off his own Instagram.”
  — Mary Holland [38:13]

• On Vaccine Policy:
  “We're not going to recommend a product for which there's no clinical data for that indication.”
  — Secretary Bobby Kennedy [04:29]

• On Betrayal by Tech Elites:
  “They hate the American people. Sachs the conflict's interest. This guy, it’s got to stop. And he’s sitting there right next to Zuckerberg, you know, bouncing around…on the day that Bobby Kennedy gets… they try to do a star chamber and an inquisition on a man that stood in the breach…”
  — Steve Bannon [35:39–36:41]

• On the Importance of Reckoning:
  “The reckoning’s got to be the information warfare part—the platform they used, that the FBI and all these guys went to… The American people have turned and they've turned with no media support.”
  — Steve Bannon [51:05]

• On Historical Parallels:
  “If you go back to the 30s in Germany...they used one word above all others, and it was habituation. They said we gradually habituated to the obliteration of freedom. It happened step by step.”
  — Steve Bannon [07:50]

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• [00:00 – 05:37]: Senate grilling of Secretary Kennedy on vaccine policy and COVID-19 data chaos.
• [06:32]: Discussion on the state of U.S. public health infrastructure, critique of CDC.
• [07:50 – 09:02]: Historical analogies (Germany, Soviet Union), the slow erosion of freedom.
• [16:47 – 26:00]: Economic/geopolitical news, BRICS nations, criticism of leadership, and the White House dinner with tech elites.
• [32:00 – 38:13]: Bannon’s extended critique of dinner with tech leaders, censorship, and perceived betrayal of the movement.
• [38:13 – 41:39]: Mary Holland on Big Tech's pandemic-era actions and the battle for medical freedom.
• [41:39 – 43:04]: The inquisition-like nature of Kennedy’s Senate hearing, dysfunction in government.
• [45:22 – 51:05]: Analysis of hearing exchanges, vaccine recommendations, what constitutes “taking away” access, and what comes next.
• [51:05 – 52:31]: Final call for unity, pushing for a reckoning, and the fusion of MAGA-MAHA as a political force.

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Conclusion & Takeaways

• Bannon and guests frame the day’s events as a microcosm of a larger information and civilizational war.
• The contrast between Kennedy’s Senate grilling (“standing in the breach”) and the White House dinner with Big Tech power players is symbolic of internal tension within the right/populist movement—between grassroots populists and establishment/elite interests.
• The episode urges listeners to flood the zone with support for Bobby Kennedy, maintain pressure for a reckoning on pandemic response and censorship, and double down on MAGA/MAHA coalition values.
• Underlying Message: The battle is not just policy, but communications, culture, and sovereignty—American citizens must remain vigilant and active.

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Transcript

[A]

I want to go back to just again, some basic facts. Do you accept the fact that a million Americans died from COVID I don't know how many died. You're the Secretary of Health and Human Services. You don't have any idea how many Americans died from COVID I don't think anybody knows that because there was so much data chaos coming out of the CDC and there was diverse incentives and these are models. You don't know the answer of how many Americans from this is the Secretary of Health and Human Services. Do you think the vaccine did anything to prevent additional deaths? Again, I would like to see the data and talk about the data. You have had this job for eight months and you don't know the data about whether the vaccine. That's the problem is that they didn't have the data. The data by the Biden administration absolutely does. Who is politicizing? You're saying the Biden administration politicized all the data? Go back to what CANTWELL Just fired Dr. Trump, surgeon general. They fired Dr. Grouch. They fired all the people who question the orthodoxy. They qualify. Dr. Gruber, Dr. Kaus, Chairman, Secretary of Health and Human Services, doesn't, no matter how many Americans died from COVID let them know if the vaccine helped prevent any deaths. And you are sitting as Secretary of Health and Human Services. How can you be that ignorant?

[B]

What should states expect of these senators at this point? What is it that families and communities expect of them?

[A]

You're running for governor.

[B]

What is your expectation of the senators even if they don't represent your state?

[C]

All right.

[B]

Wherever they happen to be, to deal.

[A]

Effectively with not just oversight, but making.

[B]

Sure this man doesn't harm the American.

[A]

People with bad health policy.

[D]

Michael, representation is what we should expect from these senators. There are millions, tens of millions of people that are represented by each of these senators. And for them to not represent the health and well being of their constituents is dereliction. We know that at this stage, CDC is not prepared to be the glue for 50 states when it comes to some catastrophic pandemic. The way we saw with COVID we know that losing some of your highest level health professionals and scientists is going to leave you at a disadvantage. And so at this stage, those senators should act. It shouldn't just be a hearing. They should take action. From what I saw, and I think the senators saw the same thing, you have a Department of Health and Human Services which is not protecting the people.

[B]

Take action.

[D]

You represent tens of millions of Americans. Take action. Make it right. You know, it's time to hit the reset button on hhs.

[C]

Last November, while you were under consideration to become Secretary of Health And Human Services, Mr. Kennedy, you said, quote, if vaccines are working for somebody, I'm not going to take them away. No exceptions. No ifs, ands or buts. You would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them. Then last week you announced the COVID 19 vaccine is no longer approved for healthy people under the age of 65. In announcing the change, you said the vaccine will be available for anyone who wants it. Now, obviously, both things cannot be true at the same moment. So let's clear this up right now. Secretary Kennedy, will you tell America that all, all adults and all children over 6 months of age are eligible to get a Covid booster at their local pharmacy today?

[A]

Anybody can get the booster.

[C]

I'm sorry?

[A]

Anybody can get it.

[C]

Anybody. So you're saying that is now the official rule of hhs? Anybody is eligible to get a booster by just walking into the pharmacy?

[A]

It's not recommended for healthy people?

[C]

No, no. If you don't recommend, then the consequence of that in many states is that you can't walk into a pharmacy and get one. It means insurance companies don't have to cover the $200 or so cost. As Senator, Dr. Cassidy said, you are effectively denying people vaccines.

[A]

We're not going to recommend a product for which there's no clinical data for that indication.

[C]

Would you.

[A]

Is that what I should be doing?

[C]

What you should be doing is honoring your promised that you made when you were looking to get confirmed in this job.

[A]

You're going like this is.

[C]

You promised that you would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them. You just changed the classification of the COVID vaccine.

[A]

I'm not taking them away from people, Senator.

[C]

It takes it away. If you can't get it from your.

[A]

Pharmacy, most Americans are going to be able to get it from their pharmacy for free dollars. Most Americans will be able to get it from their pharmacy free.

[C]

Question is, everyone who wants it? That was your promise.

[A]

I never promised that I was going to recommend products with which there is no indication.

[C]

When you said, and I know you've.

[A]

Taken $855,000 from pharmaceutical companies, Senator, did.

[C]

You hold up a big sign saying that you were lying when you said that? Because you are the one who said you would not take them away.

[B]

The Middle east, though, is. Is not the main event. This is the main event. It's a sideshow in Israel. The Greater Expansion Project is a sideshow to a sideshow. The defense of Israel is different. And right now, I would argue as being one of the biggest offenders of Israel and the Jewish people. To argue very simply, the threat, the existential threat to Israel and the Jewish people is not in Tehran. It's not in Tehran. It's going to take them decades to turn that thing around. And if we cut off the oil, it'll happen quicker. The threat is right in New York City. Siddiq, what has happened to London the last 10 years? Are people asleep? What has happened to Paris? What has happened to Brussels? What has happened to every country except for Hungary and Poland? The ones that said, no, we're not going to do this, we're going to keep our culture. Look at Germany. It's all the same source.

[D]

Well, I'm afraid this is one thing I agree with Secretary Kennedy on. This is just the start. He and the administration are really destroying the public health infrastructure of the U.S. we've already seen more than 2,000 staff fired from the CDC. We've seen half of the centers in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention dissolved. And they say one thing, but they do something else. They say they won't take away anyone's vaccines right now. Today, it is much harder for healthy adults, pregnant women, parents who want their kids vaccinated to get a COVID vaccine in many states around the US Harder for pharmacies to carry it, harder for insurers to cover it, harder for doctors to give it, harder for parents and families to get it. They say they're going to address chronic disease. What's the first thing they did? Eliminate the tobacco control program at CDC and undermine it at the fda. That's the the leading cause of chronic illness in the US So watch what they do, not what they say.

[B]

Katz, in writing the book, you say you were thinking a little bit about the world in the 1930s and fascism, not just in Germany, but across the world. What parallels do you draw? And it's a dangerous place to go for some people because we know what happened after the 1930s in Germany and in the Soviet Union.

[A]

But what parallels do you see? Okay, here's the biggest one. If you go back to the 30s in Germany and like talk to people as people did in the 50s and 60s who were actually there, they used one word above all others, and it was habituation. They said we gradually habituated to the obliteration of freedom. It happened step by step. It happened so slowly that it was like farmers in a field when eventually the corn is over your head. So that parallel the step by step ness of the worst things were seeing.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That is the parallel and that's what.

[B]

People have to be alert to. Folks, we are in the kinetic part of the Third World War. We have to get focused. We can't let the Mitch McConnells and all these people that brought us here with policies that have led us to disaster, that have allowed China to actually do a flex on the, on the. Think about that. Everything the United States of America did on a war they never wanted to get involved in, everything we did, all the blood, all the sacrifice.

[A]

All the.

[B]

Resources, all the toughness, the firebombing of Japan, the bombing of Germany, the submarine warfare, the landings in North Africa, Normandy, all of it, the guys have fought in China of which President Trump said, hey, wouldn't you just give us a little, you know, a little thank you for that. Of all the sacrifice. They choose the 80th anniversary to get in your grill and convince the world that was our victory and the Americans are nothing. So we're in it and we don't have a choice. We have to shut them down now. They're an existential threat to the Lao, Beijing, the folks in China. They're a threat to East Asia, they're a threat to all our allies, and they're a threat to the people of the United States. What they've done in this country to co op Wall street, to co op the tech oligarchs, and that's what America first is putting our citizens, our sovereignty, our country first. If we do that, we're going to win. There's no doubt we're going to win. But if we flinch on that at any time, we could lose this because an individual like Donald Trump comes along maybe once in a country's history. We've had three. Washington, Lincoln and Trump with all his imperfection, in fact, his imperfections, his rising above his imperfections is his true greatness. Thank you. Make America great again. Thank you. Appreciate it. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. There's not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is My purpose, if that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannock. Okay, Friday the 5th of September year for Lord 2025. Needless to say, a lot going on and we're going to get to all of it. Bobby Kennedy stood in the breach yesterday. If I can make a, a recommendation because President Trump answered a question last night at the tech meeting, and we'll get to that in a second. And by the way, we didn't have, we just had a jobs report that I think reinforces what I've been saying on artificial intelligence. Not the best jobs report, but it's going to lead to a rate cut. So the casino, the stock market, they're running around, they couldn't be better. Mark is up a little bit. Gold's over 3,600. The polls announced they, their central bank, they're gonna go from 20%, I think, of their assets in gold to 30%. I would watch what the central banks are doing and make sure you get into the dollar empire now more than ever. And I'll have Philip Patrick on tomorrow as part of the. I'm gonna go through the economy tomorrow kind of brick by brick. I think everybody needs to get up to speed on. I gave a talk to the House Freedom Caucus yesterday at their conference and about the big beautiful bill and the good news about it. Some of the not so good news about it, the budget that we're hurtling towards, a shutdown on the 30th unless we acquiesce to a CR or a omnibus is what the Senate wants. They're gonna have all kind of goodies for those tech bros. Last night, the, you know, Bobby Kennedy stood in the breach. However, when President Trump answered the question about Bobby Kennedy, say he's a great guy, good man, stood in the breach. I think we want to get to a place where President Trump can say, hey, I've seen the data, I've seen the analysis. I've seen it. I've weighed and measured it. President Trump's a business guy. He's very, he's very good with numbers. I think that presentation's got to be made. Bobby Kennedy stood in the breaches. And you heard they were like harridans. I mean, it was, they were hectoring the whole time and they're on the payroll of big pharma. But the data and the math is on our side. We ought to be leading with that. We ought to be overwhelming them. So call them out and call them out. What they've done for 20 years and Bobby Kennedy did a great job of that. But this is a communications problem, not a, not a policy problem. It's a comm, it's a. We're in an information war, folks. You know that. You're, you're the, you're the hoplites in the information war. You're the force multipliers. You're the ones that actually make it happen. We're also an information war in the economy. We have to be on. President Trump's on offense, on policy. What kind of offense he is this afternoon he's going to sign an executive order, think at 2 o' clock to rename the Department of Defense Department of War. Yo Yo. Because he says, hey, I want to go back to the name we had when we won him. 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You can follow all of your favorites. Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobi and so many more. Download the Getter app now. Sign up for free and be part of the movement. Okay. The, you know, our quote unquote allies have had their meeting, had their teleconference yesterday. I still don't think we know any commitments, any hard commitments. Britain right now is in the middle of a, of a crisis because they're, they've come up, oh, we're 50 billion short. I think it's £50 billion short. On, on their budget. They got a gap. And in England, it's not that easy to fill. But they're not the prime reserve currency anymore. It's not as easy to make up those kind of misses. So they've got a massive struggle over there. Besides the fact in the speech yesterday, the Daily Telegraph headline for the afternoon edition of at least the news site, the, the website was Mike talking about a coming civil war in Great Britain. You see that coming from what's happening every night with these St. George Cross flags going up and Union Jacks going up. Something very, very dark is happening as London has fallen. Right, I'll talk about this more over the weekend and next week as we do the run up to 911 and talk about 911 and what's happened in 9 11, particularly in the capitals of Europe. That's what I said yesterday on this situation about our geopolitics and geostrategic focus. The Chinese Communist Party is clearly coming for us. It's very obvious it was a flex. President Trump's gone out of his way to try to work a deal out that works for both parties and, and, you know, takes the, takes the world to the next level. They're not interested. It's quite evident they're not interested. What they did, what they did in, in Beijing the other day is a flex because they had Kim. It's not just Putin, right, But they had Kim. They also had Kim on the, they had Kim on the Financial Times that did the work for me. They had Kim on the podium. They had Mini me on the podium. They hang him up there because they understand he's out of control with the nuclear weapons. And I've always told people, when they're doing the Korean thing and the Obama guys are telling us the biggest thing I said yo, it's a vassal state of the Chinese Communist Party. He's going to do exactly what the CCP tells him to do. And he's got that finger on the nuclear trigger because they don't want to do it. They got him to do it. I think we have a. We have a major messaging problem. It's got to stop. We got to get our. We got to get organized. There's got to be a cohesive economic message. It just has to be. There's many great things going on in the big, beautiful build is what I told the Freedom Caucus yesterday. And the White House, you know, you've got different elements of the White House. You got Commerce, you got treasury. There's good news. We got to bundle it in a package and boom, you know, first step is to concentration of force and power to give what we call muzzle velocity. That's what Robert Bartley, the great editor of the Wall Street Journal, had two great. Had two great things for people thinking about information warfare. Number one, it ain't a scoop until you treat it as a scoop. Number two is muzzle velocity on any story. You have to be able to drive through the white noise and particularly the resistance of the. The resistance of the. Of the mainstream. Mainstream media is just the propaganda arm for the globalists, for the existing order, the established order. And also, I think we have to have this conversation. We have to have it now because last night was quite frankly, an outrage. The day that Bobby Kennedy testifies is getting grilled and crucified in a star chamber, as we told you, on inquisition. And look at the inappropriate. They call him a liar. They call him a grifter, they call him a con artist. They called him a shill. They said he should be fired, he should be terminated. And this is the Republicans, just kidding. But the Republicans were not great. Cassidy was terrible. And later I'll talk about Cassidy. There's no chance he's going to be John Bel Edwards in a race down there in Louisiana. MAGA can't stand this guy. The Maha movement hates him. They should hate him. His little trick questions yesterday to Bobby Kennedy were unacceptable. But how do you have. On the day that Kennedy's going to testify, how do you have these tech bird, the tech oligarchs in there with the President who are the worst? First off, they all hate the President. If somehow Newsom wins in 28. I know it's remote, but I'm just saying, theoretically, if he wins in 28, they're all going to be on his side. They're all Progressives to a person. There's not one MAGA person in that crowd. In fact, they hate maga. They hate the American people. They consider you deal baggage. They don't look out for the American people. They don't look out for the country. They only believe in the country. They don't believe in the nation state. It's the worst group of humans on earth, half of them on the spectrum. And you have Mark Zuckerberg and by the way, the people responsible for this guy, Michael Kratziosis, I don't even know why he's around the White House, this technology guy. He's a open door to these guys with no. On the day that Bobby Kennedy. You have the worst people in the pandemic, in the, in the information warfare and the lies and information warfare and suppression. You have that crowd there on the day that Bobby Kennedy testifies. Have you lost your mind? See, they have no fundamental basic understanding of our movement. They just don't. They just come in after November 4th. Yes, they throw a little money at Trump in 2024. No doubt they put some money up, but they're grifting. And David Sachs, I don't even know his role and his conflicts of interest. We're going to have Senator Banks on here in a while talking about it. These, these lobbyists. The law firm's pushing this. It's got to stop. It's got to stop. Here's where it's going to stop. You want to have a, you want to have a catastrophe in 2026? Keep going down the road of the tech bros. You want to have a catastrophe in 20 and they're going to bail on you in a second. It's not like, okay, we'll do it because they're in the trenches. They're fixed bayonets. No, the exact opposite. They're all progressive Democrats. Not one of them, maybe a couple of them are libertarians. Right. And that's just a phony way to say, oh, I'm a libertarian, which you're really a progressive Democrat. Somebody's got to wake up there. Kratziosis is. If he's putting these things together, that is an insult to the MAHA movement to see that crowd after Bobby Kennedy gets eviscerated and he stands in the breach, hammering. You have the crowd that made the pandemic worse. Yes. Fauci and Collins and all of it. Yeah, and cdc. I got it. But the platform they used to basically shut us down. We were de platforming all those guys after Zuckerberg helped steal the 2020 election, we were shut down by all of. Because of the pandemic. And you have those guys there. They're not with us. They're not with the President. They will put the knife in him in a second. And they don't get it. They fundamentally do not get our movement and they hate the American people. Sachs the conflict's interest. This guy, it's got to stop. And he's sitting there right next to Zuckerberg, you know, bouncing around. And Craig, the guy at the technology office is setting these things up on the day that Bobby Kennedy gets. They try to do a star chamber and an inquisition on a man that stood in the breach and call him out and said, hey, how much money you taking? What have you done the last 25 years to stop it? Because big tets in business with Big Pharma, 100% with them. And on that night, you have a celebratory dinner with the President. And by the way, not briefing the President. Somebody's got to tell the. Somebody's got to form the president that because they're holding back for that information back from. As Mike Davis says, yo, the Google lawsuit was dropped in President Trump's first term. Just like the FTC suit against Zuckerberg. I don't even know how you have Zuckerberg next to the president when Zuckerberg is trying to get in the Oval Office to try to work out some deal so we don't break up Facebook, which we want to break up. Facebook want to break up Google. Google headline Wall Street Journal yesterday. Google ruling shows limits to U.S. antitrust enforcement. They ain't going to be any limits. You got to break these people up. They are evil. They do not support this movement. They're out for themselves. They don't believe in the nation state. They got this weird. All these weird theories, you know, dark enlightenment and weird. There is network effect and networks. And they're going to do this and all going to. You heard. You heard. And the great Rachel Bovart said at the start of the national. National Conservative Conference, the biggest thing is transhumanism. When she and Putin are with each other for the little time they have. They got the hot mic, which as John told us, ain't a hot mic because the Chinese Communist Party, first off, it was a hot mic. You'd have seen 50 heads they would have cut off and had up in Tiananmen Square of their tech department and the sound engineers. It was. It was a leak. And what are they talking about? Immortality and that we got the solution Right now. Hey, Putin, I think we can get us to 125, 150 years just on live organ harvesting. That crowd is the tech crowd. You don't think they're working on the same thing out in Silicon Valley? In the air Amnesty. I don't trust that crowd around the table, around the President. The president, they're, they're a nest of vipers. They do not support you. They. Nobody more viciously went after you than the big tech bros in your first term. They had no earthly idea you would come back. They hedge their bets. They're smart business guys. They hedge their bet in case you won. And then once, once you won, hey, they're all, man, they're down for it. They're maga. This is dangerous. Number one is just stupid politically because it's going to get us crushed. Those guys bring nothing to the table. As far as votes. 80% of the country hate them. This is one of those 80, 20. Zuckerberg. That guy should be in prison. He should be in a cell. Bill Gates, on a day that Bobby Kennedy gets that Elizabeth Warren Focahanas is ripping his face off in front of the world. You're going to have Bill Gates. Mr. Vaccine. What in the hell are we doing? Whoever set that dinner up should be perp walked out of the White House today. Somebody's got to get, somebody's got to get control of this deal. Okay? 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[F]

I just want to thank everybody for being here. I want to thank the media. They've been very nice lately, although I'm still here, so we have to. They made a couple of bad predictions. That was not good. I've never had that feeling before. I went to an event and people are coming up to me and saying, you're still here. I said, what do they mean by that? I didn't hear about this, but anyway. But I do. The press has been great in terms of this industry and they understand the importance of it. This is taking our country to a new level. We're leading the world. We're leading China, but we're leading the world by a lot. And we're leading it because of the people around the table. And all I can do is implement and make it a lot easier for you. And I'll be doing that 100%. So I just want to thank you all. Mark, would you like to say a few words about the company?

[C]

Well, thanks for hosting us.

[B]

And this is quite a group to get together. Thank you, Mr. President. It's a great honor to. To work here at the White House and to work for you.

[A]

Very grateful for your administration support.

[B]

We look forward to working together. And thanks for your leadership. We're so grateful for that support. Thank you so much, obviously, for bringing us all together and the policies that.

[D]

You have put in place. Thank you very much.

[B]

And also I wanted to thank Madam.

[D]

First lady for hosting.

[A]

I want to thank you for including me this evening. It's incredible to be among everyone here, particularly you and the First Lady. I also want to thank you for helping American companies around the world.

[B]

First of all, to echo the comments of Tim and others, thank you so much for getting us all together. And thank you for being such a pro business, pro innovation president. Thank you. Thank you for everything you're doing. Thank you for incredible leadership, including getting this group together.

[F]

Thank you, Bill. That is very nice administration.

[C]

Smart.

[F]

Well, you had a very good day yesterday. Google had a very good day yesterday.

[B]

And.

[F]

And do you want to talk about that big day you had yesterday?

[B]

I've got it. Thank you, Denver. Thank you. I'm bringing Mary Holland. We got a longer clip of Gates. My God, Mark Zuckerberg and Bill Gates on the day that Bobby Kennedy goes In there, the guys at the White House, Katsiotes and Sachs, whatever Sachs is doing. You're telling me that. We gave previews last week on Bobby Kennedy. We said it's going to be a star chamber. It's going to be an inquisition. That Bobby Kennedy is going to show his guts and courage by standing in the breach and taking it on. Of which he did magnificently. Magnificently. And on that night, you're going to have at the White House a dinner that you're going to invite Mark Zuckerberg and Sacks. You're going to sit next to him like some clown. He should be in jail. And we got a huge. We're in a federal court right now trying to break the company up. How is that appropriate? He tried to talk. Ask Mike Davis. He went to the. Zuckerberg went to the White House and tried to talk the President out of it. President, no, the FTC went ahead with the suit. And Bill Gates. Bill Gates should be in prison. He's a demon of a demon on the, on the diet. He's the worst in the world for the vaccines, to put money in his own pocket and all of them to have the government underwrite it. Remember when you see those tech guys, all this and the government contracts, it's all socializing. The downside. You're paying for it. And they get unlimited upside. This is why the conservatives and you guys, oh, you know, intel, hey, I take stakes in all of them. Some of them. I take 89% stakes and distribute the shares to the American people. Not have the government keep it, Distribute the shares to American people. Let the American people have a piece of the action. They're paying for it. Why don't you get a little something for the effort? The whole thing has to be changed. It's perverse. The incentives are perverse. And it's destroying the company, destroying the country. And on AI, they want AI amnesty. And hey, as sure as the turning of the earth, the AI amnesty is going to be in the NDAA or the omnibus. It's going to be slipped in like was slipped in last time. Remember? They slip in that little page and 9,000 pages. Gonna slip it in. Gonna slip it in. On the day that Bobby Kennedy is a profile. Encouraged. You understand how hard it is to sit there for three or four hours and have those guys just take shots at you. And he fires back. Hey, you've been here 25 years, already proven. Hey, I'm asking the questions. You shut up. That was a star chamber. That's like the inquisition. We're back to the. We're back to the Middle Ages. And on that day, you have Mark Zuckerberg sitting next to the President of the United States. Whoever arranged that, I don't want to hear it. You should be gone. Sachs gone. Kratz Yoda is gone. You either going to get serious about this or you're not. Oh, it was scheduled weeks in advance. Then cancel it. It's not you down there. Which it should be. Zuckerberg should be in the hot seat getting grilled. Gates. Gates is a demon. He's demonic. Zuckerberg is demonic. These people bring no votes. The American people hate them. They're all in for themselves. In the day that we stumble. The day that we stumble, they're going to be on the other side. They're going to be suppressing. This is why the Palantir stuff so dangerous. It's all going to be used against you. Don't think this. Look, every day we are creating what the reality is. There is nothing foreordained here. And this is why I said you're saying the speech. You get a guy like Trump once a century. Most countries never get a guy like Trump. Never get a guy like Lincoln. Never get a guy like General Washington. Never. And if you go back and see their trials and tribulations. Wasn't. Wasn't it wasn't sunlit uplands where the hell they tried to cashier. They tried to get rid of Washington a hundred times during the revolution. A hundred times. Mutinies. All of it backstabbing. Congress. Terrible. Lincoln the same way. Their lives are not rosy at all. People are out for them the entire time. Like they're out for Trump and the worst demons. It's like Caesar in the Senate. You got Brutus, you got them all right there. Cassius, you got them all right there. Sharpening the knives under the table as soon as you move, Mr. President. Gonna stab you. Gonna stab you. Zuckerberg was one of the leading elements of stealing the 2020 election. We need to adjudicate that and put him in prison. Bill Gates is an out of control demon. And what he's done on vaccines, on the day that we're having the biggest central fight of the Maha movement, which are our compadres, we only. Let me underline this and make sure people understand this. We only win as a coalition MAGA and MAHA. That's what gave us the victory in 24. And this is what can give us continual victories going forward. You notice somebody didn't include their tech bros because they're Always going to cover their bet. They're always going to cover their, you know, they're not capitalists, they're corporatists because they want to have their downside totally covered with unlimited upside. That's not capitalism, that's corporatism. Mary Holland, do I overstate the case about what that group did? Google and all of them, Zuckerberg, what they did during the pandemic, and particularly about vaccines and vaccine mandates? They're the ones that drove it. They're the ones the FBI went to. It was Fauci. And these guys are just, they're just doctors and guys. There was their policies, but the delivery system was what was in that room last night. And anybody associated with setting it up, like Kratziotas and Sachs, got to be gone.

[E]

No, you didn't overstate it at all, Steve. And I'm glad you made it the connection because in fact, Bobby Kennedy, in his book the Real Anthony Fauci, the subtitle has Bill Gates in it and Zuckerberg in it. Those guys during COVID collaborated completely with the administration to censor people. The administration violated the First Amendment. Those guys violated all kinds of laws to suppress. Bobby Kennedy, you know, they cut off off his own Instagram, but also Children's Health Defense. We were taken off of all of those platforms. We are still downgraded on Google. We sued Zuckerberg and Facebook now meta platforms, and got a really ridiculous decision, frankly, from the federal district court and the Ninth Circuit and then the Supreme Court didn't take it. So they were bad guys during COVID like you said, they have basically a huge liability shield, section 2, 230 of the Communications Decency act, much like pharma does. And they'll play both sides as they are, right? So all of that, I love the music that you had there in the, in the open of, you know, this is like, you know, they're all, you know, fawning over the king kind of thing and they'll fawn over whoever they think has power and it's a mutual relationship because in truth, Google and Facebook or whatever, you know, Instagram, meta platforms, they have tremendous power, right? They can shape public opinion, they can change elections. They've shown us not only in the United States, but in other countries where they can do this. So we have taken a very firm stance at Children's Health Defense against their efforts on censorship. And they have not been appropriately held accountable at all. But you know what? We don't know all the conversations that took place there, Steve. It's possible that there were conversations that really did let them know that what they do in the area of censorship or in monopoly is not acceptable. I don't know.

[B]

I think highly unlikely. I just think highly unlikely. I'd like to see the readout of that. They are making investments. I mean, President Trump held him. He went around the table and said he wanted to know how much money their capital they were putting in the United States. That's a great start.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

But you also have to look at. Because I think today I haven't had a chance to break it down because it came out right before for the show, but I think you're starting to see the AI impact on jobs. Yeah, we're going to see. And every guy. And every guy in that room is fighting for the H1B visas. They're all fighting. They're anti American. Okay. The America, the MAGA movement is America first and wait for it, American citizens first. American citizens first. Every guy in that room doesn't want to hire American citizens who to be their employees. Why? Because they feel they have to pay them too much and they feel that they have to give them better medical care and they feel like, you know, Americans got points of view and you know, every now and again are going to be a little ornery because we're Americans. Right. That what they want is to import the third World. Right. And put. And have folks live tend to a condo in Silicon Valley because they're here on kind of probation and working at one third the wages and then lie about it. Should stop the H1B Vs and stop all of it. And it's around that table's doing it. They hate the American people. And people see it. The Maha movement. We got to bring the Maha movement again and say we got your back. Everything you want to do is focus on it.

[E]

Mary Holland well, we definitely need to show support for Secretary Kennedy. So it was a, you know, a failed effort by the Democrats on that Senate Finance Committee to get Kennedy to resign. They had all signed a letter yesterday morning to ask him to resign. And I'm delighted that Trump is really standing behind him. But, you know, it was, it was pathetic. I was in the room yesterday. You know, it just showcased the dysfunction in government. Those people were really showboating as Kennedy did call them out. He really was magnificent and courageous to be there. It cannot be pleasant to have people basically hurling insults at you continuously for almost three hours. As Senator Ron Johnson, definitely a hero to the Maha movement, said it was abuse. Kennedy was literally sitting through this abuse and what was also horrible, Steve, is to realize that so many of these people are really in the dark. They seem to have no concept of the harms that the COVID shots have done. They seem clueless. They were worried about pharmacies giving access to people for their six month olds. And what we know is that those shots shouldn't be in any child's arm. Most countries in the world have stopped them being available to children at all. But Kennedy is making them available but just not recommending them anymore. But he was skewered, but I think he held his own and that was great.

[B]

But yeah, hang on, I'm gonna hold you through the break. I wanted to say a couple of things about that. I haven't seen this about the message. It comes out of HHS two at a Bobby's shop. I haven't seen any overwhelming. Your message right there is a messenger. I have out. Maybe I missed it. I haven't seen any overwhelming. And that Bobby Kennedy ain't going anywhere. He's our guy. And also going offense on the data and the science. The numbers are on our side. Short break. What if he had the brightest mind in the war room delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War Room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets. Jim predicted Trump's Electoral College victory exactly 312 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, MoneyGPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos, bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes and even threats to national security. Right now, War Room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go torickards war room dot com. That's all one word. Rickards War Room records with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's Rickards war room dot com. Do it today. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, we have not flooded the Zone with support of Bobby Kennedy. That needs to happen, number one. Number two, we. I want Mary Holland. Walk me through what Bobby Kennedy has done done in the President. The President having to take it on his own shoulders because he doesn't have enough to do. Right. Just Changing the word. He didn't have enough to do. Calling out Pfizer, but walk through what set up the call out of Pfizer, what Bobby Kennedy set up to basically get to the heart of this.

[E]

Well, one of the things that Bobby Kennedy called out yesterday, Steve, is the data chaos. They kept trying to box him in of like, was the shot a miracle? You know, did it save millions of lives? And he said, I don't know if it saved millions of lives. The CDC was so corrupted and so thoroughly incompetent during COVID giving irrational advice on the masks on the lockdowns, on the distancing. I don't know how many people died from the shot. I don't know how many people died from COVID They had people dying with COVID People dying from COVID It was intentionally mixed up stuff. So he kept saying, look, you're looking for a religious answer that I believe. And he said, I can't give you that. I don't have the adequate science. I'm working on it like crazy. And I think that's frustrating to people. But they also tried to skewer him. But you cut back on the money for mRNA, you've cut back on the recommendations for kids and for other groups for the mRNA. And he said, look, there's no science to support it. Back in 2021, you could argue 2020, it was different, it's now 2025. It's a different virus, it's mutated, it's not as virulent. Like, I don't have science to back up continuing these boosters. And you know, I don't think there's been an adequate reckoning yet of how harmful these injections were. I think that's starting to come. They've set up a working group within the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices chaired by Retsev Levy, that is going to look specifically at the COVID 19 shots. I think that's absolutely critical and has a lot of implications for this MRNA platform overall.

[B]

Hang on for a second. I want to play. Let's play. I'm going to play Fokahontas again with Bobby Kennedy. I want to do it while I got you here. Let's play it.

[C]

Last November, while you were under consideration to become Secretary of Health And Human Services, Mr. Kennedy, you said, quote, if vaccines are working for somebody, I'm not going to take, take them away. No exceptions, no ifs, ands or buts. You would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them. Then last week you announced the COVID 19 vaccine is no longer approved for healthy people under the age of 65. In announcing the change, you said the vaccine will be available for anyone who wants it. Now, obviously, both things cannot be true at the same moment, so let's go clear this up right now. Secretary Kennedy, will you tell America that all adults and all children over 6 months of age are eligible to get a Covid booster at their local pharmacy today?

[A]

Anybody can get the booster.

[C]

I'm sorry?

[A]

Anybody can get it?

[C]

Anybody. So you're saying that is now the official rule of hhs? Anybody is eligible to get a booster by just walking into the pharmacy?

[A]

It's not recommended for healthy people?

[C]

No, no. If you don't recommend, then the consequence of that in many states is that you can't walk into a pharmacy and get one. It means insurance companies don't have to cover the $200 or so cost. As Senator, Dr. Cassidy said, you are effectively denying people vaccines.

[A]

We're not going to recommend a product for which there's no clinical data for that indication.

[C]

Would you.

[A]

Is that what I should be doing?

[C]

What you should be doing is honoring your promise that you made when you were looking to get confirmed in this job.

[A]

You're going like.

[C]

This is. You promised that you would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them. You just changed the classification of the COVID vaccine.

[A]

I'm not taking them away from people, Senator.

[C]

It takes it away. If you can't get it from your.

[A]

Pharmacy, well, most Americans are going to be able to get it from their pharmacy for free dollars. Most Americans will be able to get it from their pharmacy for.

[C]

The question is, everyone who wants it. That was your promise.

[A]

I never promised that I was going to recommend products with which there is no indication.

[C]

When you say said, and I know.

[A]

You'Ve taken $855,000 from pharmaceutical companies, Senator.

[C]

Did you hold up a big sign saying that you were lying when you said that? Because you are the one who said you would not take them away.

[B]

Folks, it's. This is fixed bayonets. This is the heart of it right here. They're all employed by big pharma. She didn't even answer that. And she's taken more than 880,000 bucks. Taking millions. So is Bernie Sanders. They won't. They won't. They. They won't answer the question. And this is why we got to have Bobby Kenny's back, because he cuts the heart of it. He's not going to recommend something that he believes is. And the data. There's no data that shows that it works or it's good for people.

[E]

Mary Holland and he's not lying. He's saying, he didn't say it's going to be available for free forever for everybody. He just said it's available if you want to go pay for it. If you want to go to your doctor who says it has to be free at your pharmacy in order for it to be available. It's sort of like, you know, apples and oranges. Yes, you can get a booster if you want. But as he said at the very outset and he put in an op ed in the Wall street journal, under 10% of people are giving this to kids. Two thirds of health care providers didn't take the booster. The American people have moved on, but we haven't had the reckoning that we have to have to figure out what went down during COVID medically and in terms of civil rights. And I think that now this Rets have Levy thing, this Trump tweet, I think we're on the path and that encourages me. Ron Johnson clearly signaled that he's going to be doing a lot more on this in his hearing. So there's some light here.

[B]

This is the point. The reckoning is not just Fauci, should be imprisonment, Collins, all of them, but it's also the guys around the table last night. It's Google, it's Gates, it's Zuckerberg, it's all of them. That's what the reckoning's got to be. The reckoning's got to be the information warfare part, the platform to use that the FBI and all these guys went to. Remember, everybody in this audience, you're all a bunch of nutcases. Now the American people have turned and they've turned with no media support. You've got shows like this and a handful of these other shows that focus on this. It's monumental. Why you can. It's amazing because you can't get around the common sense of the American people. They know they were sold something and then all the mandates. This is why Dr. Latipo and Governor DeSantis, good on you.

[E]

Yesterday.

[B]

It's time to rip the band aid off. Mary, hang around for a second. I'm not finished. I know you're pressed for time, but I, I want to finish this because we need to flood the zone with Bobby Kennedy. This is a topic where we're winning. The American people are on our side and they're not on the tech bro side. We're winning. And the coalition of make America healthy again and Make America, great again. That fusion is unbeatable. It's the politics of today. It's the politics of the future. And if you do not get that, get the hell out of the room. Short break. Back in a moment. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, the real crisis is personal debt. Seriously, you're working harder than ever and you're still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. You need Done with debt, and here's why you need it. The credit system is rigged to keep you trapped. Done With Debt has unique and frankly brilliant escape strategies to help end your debt fast so you keep more of your hard earned money. Done With Debt doesn't try to sell you a loan and they don't try to sell you a bankruptcy. They're tough negotiators that go one on one with your credit card and loan companies. With one goal, to drastically reduce your bills and eliminate interest and erase penalties. Most clients end up with more money in their pocket month one. And they don't stop until they break you free from debt permanently. Look, take a couple of minutes and visit donewithdeckcom talk with one of their strategists. It's free, but listen up. Some of their solutions are time sensitive, so you'll need to move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com Stop the anxiety, stop the angst. Go to donewithdebT.com and do it today.