Episode 4761: UK On The Brink Of Civil War; The Dream Of Becoming Tech God

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room — Episode 4761

Title: UK On The Brink Of Civil War; The Dream Of Becoming Tech God
Host: Steve Bannon
Air Date: September 6, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode covers two urgent themes:

1. The political and cultural turmoil in the United Kingdom, which Bannon and guests argue signals potential for mass unrest or even civil war, paralleling conditions in the United States.
2. The rise of transhumanism and techno-elitism, examining how world leaders and tech titans aspire to reshape humanity, striving for technological immortality and control.

As usual, Bannon drives intense conversation with expert contributors, including Ben Harnwell (War Room International Correspondent), Joe Allen (transhumanism analyst), Philip Patrick (Birch Gold strategist), and others.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. UK: "Heading to Civil War"

[06:31–14:00]
Steve Bannon & Ben Harnwell

• Bannon draws a direct line from Brexit-era rebellion to unrest in contemporary Britain, warning, “England’s heading to a civil war... I don’t say that lightly. What’s happening there is a foreshadowing of what’s to come here in the United States.” (06:55 - Bannon)
• Ben Harnwell highlights the arrest of Graham Linehan (a comedian/writer) upon his return to London after comments about transgender activism, stressing the criminalization of dissent in Britain.
• Emergence of the St. George's Cross as a flag of "rebellion, not identity,” being painted by white working-class citizens across England.
• “The flag of England… is ceasing to be a flag of identity and becoming a flag of rebellion against [England's] own governance.” (09:25 - Harnwell)
• Civil conflict won’t necessarily be “kinetic”—not battlefield fighting—but could lead to dissolution of the UK or other forms of upheaval.

Memorable Moment:
Bannon compares the need for a new British Cromwell (a decisive leader) to potential American populist leadership, referencing Farage and Tommy Robinson, calling for unwavering resolve in populist movements.

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2. UK Political Upheaval & Echoes in the US

[12:46–14:00]

• Keir Starmer, facing public backlash over immigration (“the boats”), forces the resignation of Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner for corruption and pushes a cabinet reshuffle.
• Harnwell notes: “Keir Starmer realizes he hasn’t been stopping the boats... Why is the British Tory party not doing the same? Oh, it’s a rhetorical question.” (13:32 - Harnwell)
• Bannon connects this to pressure on the US Federal Reserve governor—corruption and residency violations echoing between British and American leadership scandals.

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3. Transhumanism: The Elite’s Quest for Immortality

[17:50–27:36]
Steve Bannon & Joe Allen

• Bannon transitions to the rise of transhumanism, citing a Shanghai conference where global elites (notably Xi, Putin, and influential oligarchs in Silicon Valley) discuss extending human life—possibly to 125 or 150 years—by organ harvesting and advanced tech.
• “The most important thing that came out of this… the biggest, most important conversation… they were talking about immortality.” (19:38 - Bannon)
• Joe Allen connects Western and Eastern elite aspirations: “From Silicon Valley to the World Economic Forum, Beijing, Moscow, this is the transhuman zeitgeist.”
• Bannon and Allen agree the public's “conspiracy theories” are real elite ideals, especially regarding AI, mind-uploading, cyborg super-soldiers, and organ farming.

Notable Quotes:

• “They want artificial intelligence. They want to merge their minds with it. They want cyborg super soldiers… It really highlights that none of what we’ve been talking about was ever really a conspiracy theory. It’s just that people have ignored it.” (22:04 - Joe Allen)
• “The aim is to play God, to become gods and to build God.” (25:52 - Allen)

Elon Musk & Tech Oligarchs

• Bannon and Allen critique Elon Musk as a “false champion of freedom”, arguing that his ambitions for AI and borderless globalization serve elite interests, not the public’s.
• “He suppresses [content] on Twitter… He’s not a freedom guy at all. It’s ridiculous.” (23:17 - Bannon)

Josh Hawley: Political Resistance to Tech Supremacy

• Senator Josh Hawley called out “transhumanist ideology” directly—a rare move among US legislators.
• “The problem is the transhumanist ideology. [He] encapsulates the religious aim to play God, to become gods and to build God.” (25:54 - Allen)
• Bannon sees Christian tradition as the only bulwark, warning: “If you blaspheme the Holy Spirit, it’s a mortal sin… This is against everything the Judeo-Christian West has ever stood for.” (26:38 - Bannon)

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4. Central Banks, Economic Crisis & The Federal Reserve Power Grab

[29:38–39:53]
Steve Bannon & Philip Patrick (Birch Gold)

• Discussion of Trump’s Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant’s call for major restructuring of the Federal Reserve—"the Gain of Function Federal Reserve."
• Central banks have been massively increasing gold reserves as a hedge against overreach and instability of the US Fed.
• “The Fed shapeshifted from a central bank into a mad scientist of monetary policy… It’s widened inequality and created cheap debt for big firms while small businesses got squeezed.” (31:55 - Patrick)
• Both host and guest argue central bank overreach is the root of current inflation, inequality, and working-class suffering.
• “Until we break [central banks] up, they ain’t going to go away... This will lead to a restructuring of the Federal Reserve, no doubt.” (39:24 - Bannon)

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5. US Military, Deep State Leaks, and Information Warfare

[46:00–49:01]
Steve Bannon & Taj

• Discussion of a leaked New York Times report about an alleged covert Navy SEAL mission in North Korea.
• Bannon and Taj see this as another “deep state” leak—intended to damage Trump and US Special Forces reputations.
• “This is the deep state leaking highly classified information… to make the SEALs look bad and Trump look incompetent.” (47:35 - Bannon)

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6. Transhumanist Products & Wellness Pitch

[49:01–51:09]
Steve Bannon & Trevor Comstock

• Segment pitches a new “creatine monohydrate powder” to support “brain health and cognitive function.”
• Product is contrasted with vague ‘brain boosters’ to assert scientific legitimacy.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Pray for our enemies because we’re going medieval on these people… The people have had a belly full of it.” (00:02 - Bannon, opening)
• “The flag of St. George… isn’t just about identity anymore, it’s a flag of rebellion.” (09:25 - Ben Harnwell)
• “Elon Musk… his dream is of an artificial intelligence system that will be merged with… we should have no borders between Europe and ourselves.” (23:15 - Bannon)
• “Artificial intelligence is the ape of the image of God. And they want to build a digital ape of God itself.” (27:36 - Joe Allen)
• “What we’re talking about is maximalist urgency… and seize the institutions because we’re burning daylight.” (41:16 - Bannon)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:02–00:49 — Bannon’s fiery opening: “primal scream of a dying regime.”
• 06:31–10:32 — UK unrest, symbolism of St. George’s Cross (Ben Harnwell)
• 12:46–14:00 — UK government shakeup & immigration/identity crisis
• 17:50–27:54 — Transhumanism: Immortality, AI, elite ambitions (Joe Allen)
• 29:38–39:53 — Federal Reserve, gold, economic restructuring (Philip Patrick)
• 46:16–47:55 — Deep state and the Navy SEAL Korea mission leak (Taj)
• 49:01–51:09 — Creatine product pitch (Trevor Comstock)
• Key Interludes: Several segments contain guest self-promotion and product offers, but main content occurs in the above ranges.

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Conclusion

This episode provides a vivid, combative snapshot of Bannon’s worldview: the West beset by lawless elites, a coming struggle between national populism and global tech oligarchy, with the Judeo-Christian tradition and economic sovereignty as bulwarks. The program is a rallying cry for maximal activism and urgent institutional reform, laced with doomsday rhetoric but also a call to intellectual and political arms.

For listeners wanting a summary of elite threats to national sovereignty—both political and technological—this episode delivers a rapid-fire tour through Bannon’s most pressing concerns.

Transcript

[Steve Bannon]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Joe Allen]

War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, this coming Friday and Saturday in New York City was it at the America first spot? I think it's the warehouse. It's in. It's on Long Island. Friday we're doing a live show five to seven and then the studio A guys are going to follow us. Tickets are available. You go to what is it? America first warehouse.com. where do we go to get the AmericaFirstwarehouse.com you got your tickets and you get a couple of free books and free food in attending. We got to do something to incentivize you to come, right? No, it's going to be great. You get Dan Fluette's book on the rebels Rogues, you know, that magnificent pictorial history of the war room, volume one. And you get Peter Navarro, Dr. Peter Navarro, the White House czar on manufacturing and tariffs. His book, he went to prison so you don't have to then on Saturday, this show next week, Saturday is also going to be live at the warehouse. New Friday night show and Saturday night show. They're two different tickets. And Dr. Peter Navarro is going to join us and we're going to do bonus time afterwards. And I don't know how long that's going to be, but it's going to be food there. It's going to be great. I'm going to do meet and greets so every person that comes will get a chance to visit, you know, get, you know, get selfies if you want, if you want to lose your friends, take a selfie with me. Put it up on Facebook. Right. You're forewarned. But come together. We love that part of Long Island, New York City, the greater New York City area and love the folks up there. And they're limited tickets, so go on it. What is it? America First Warehouse, all1word.com. Also want to thank Birchgold. I'm so proud of the fact I didn't check the gold blowing through 3,600 boxes. You remember when we started with Birch Gold a couple of years ago? I think it was 1100. I keep telling it's not the price of gold. We were never, we never teamed up with Birch to argue about the price of gold. Go buy gold. Go buy gold. No, we actually do something quite different. We as this show is, it is to teach a working class blue collar and middle class audience that has never had access to these things about geopolitics, geostrategy, the math of polling, what grassroots are, how you organize. But the most important thing I think we do is to make sure you understand economics, you understand capital markets and you understand how it impacts your life. And Birch Gold has been a great partner with this because I said the time they came and every gold seller came to us, oh, can you do this? No, not interested. They came and I said, look, here's what we want to do. We want to teach people about the dollar. We want to teach them about the prime reserve currency, the whole structure of international finance. Because that gets down to your own paycheck and how you stretch it or in some cases can't stretch it. So the end of the dollar empire. It's been seven installments, all free over the last four years. We're putting it into a book that we'll be telling you about. Maybe I even make an announcement at the America first warehouse gathering. Also, folks, we're going to do this around the country. We're going to experiment with it in Long island and then we're going to take it around the country to do the show live and also have force multiplier events right after. So make sure you go check it out. Check out birchgold.com the key thing with Birch goal is to get all the materials all free. Okay, all free. But to get to Philip, Patrick and Team Philip is going to join me at the bottom of the hour. We're going to talk about Scott Besant, Secretary of the treasury in this amazing program, radical program he's laying out to restructure the Federal Reserve. Everybody has always said end the Fed and they want to take down central banks. This is the way that you start to seize control of the Federal Reserve. Put it in a box. Then we can figure out what we do with it later. So make sure. We're going to try to get Secretary Besant on the show on Monday or Tuesday next week, his schedule permitting. Ben Harnwell, I got Joe Allen's going to join me in a second. Ben Harnwell. Look, when I say England's heading to our civil war, I don't say that lightly. You know, we were the guys. I launched Breitbart London 13 years ago when everybody, Roger Ailes, everybody said, this a waste, Breitbart's on a roll. Why are you doing this? Why are you spreading? I said Breitbart Rome, Breitbart Jerusalem, Breitbart London. You got it. Because what's happening there is a foreshadowing of what's happens here. Raheem ran it at first and stepped out and ran the Brexit campaign with Nigel Farage. And the day we won, Farage told BBC on the morning afterwards, if it hadn't been for Breitbart London, Brexit would never happen. And I said right then that day that Brexit showed that Donald Trump was going to win in November, when I think it was 14 points down to Hillary Clinton, he's going to win. This is going to happen. You can see it happening. You can see those forces. I see something darker. Nigel Farage is heroic in what he's tried to do. And folks, this is a foreshadowing of what's going to happen here in the good old United States of America. And I am not Islamophobe. There's many aspects of Islam as one of the great religions in the world that are quite moving and it's a major religion. I am against Sharia supremacy, Islamic supremacy, Islamist and Islam and Islamist politics. And that's what you got when Siddiqu Khan and these guys, they all come in with this happy smile. Nice. They got, they got a very dark plan and dangerous plan to back home. And you've seen in the city, you've seen in London. I just use that as an example what's happened. And the Brits aren't going to take it. This St. George's flag and the Union Jack going up consistently and the authorities now and what they've done is gone the opposite extreme now with, with, with speech. They just jailed a left wing guy who went to Arizona for a couple months who said something about the transgender madness. And they put him in jail when he got back, met him at the plane when he went back to London at Heathrow and threw him in jail. Ben Harnwell, your assessment of the United Kingdom, because that is the canary in the, in the coal mine, sir.

[Ben Harnwell]

So many things, Steve, to break down on that. Yeah. That guy Linehan, I think was the writer for Father Ted, the sitcom from about 20 years ago. If any of you know that that's not, we're not talking a radicalized white supremacist there, not by any stretch of the imagination. He simply expressed a point of view that would have been perfectly acceptable 20 years ago. And now he was met by five armed guards off the open. By the way, Steve, seeing as you mentioned that case, it emerges that the person who actually tipped of the police about that made the original complaint against this guy's three tweets was himself stroked herself a trans former police officer who was sacked because of various various abuses and irregularities. It's a very unstable individual. But of course if you are in the pro trans agenda in the UK today, none of those things matters anymore. You have the whip hand and that's the situation that the UK is with regards to the flag. This is important, Steve. And we actually, we covered this on the on War room battleground yesterday. You mentioned that the English flag, the flag of St. George, which you can I think which will be up on there. There we go. Thanks Denver. That is spreading out and people are going around painting that by themselves. You also see some of the Union Jacks there. But what is really taking note and you see this on social media is the predominance of that simple red cross on the white background, the flag of St. George which represents England within the Union Jack. And that is the one that is really sort of taking root now. And you see on social media it's white working class people who are going out, guys going out painting this on roundabouts, on zebra crossings and all sorts of places rather than the Union flag. Steve, why I say this is interesting is normally flags are symbols of identity. And what has happened with the flag of England right now is that it is ceasing to be a flag of identity and becoming a flag of rebellion against the country's own governance. That's a very interesting dynamic to see. It sort of reminds me of the various nationalist movements under the Soviet Union that were always there, always trying to push ahead. And when it became unviable for that Soviet Union to continue going, you have all those nationalist movements coming forward. And I see something like that taking place in the UK and that's the bike backdrop to what we're talking about civil war. Folks don't think about the Roundheads and the parliamentarians because that was the great English Civil War 400 years ago. This Civil war is going to be very different in type. And I don't it doesn't necessarily even mean that it's going to lead to kinetic though it can get there. What it means is that in some way the dissolution of the United Kingdom and it's for countries within it.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on for a second. I begged a difference. This is why I said in this GB interview, GB News interview will be coming out on. I think clips will be coming out today, but on Monday they're going to post it. It's like 45 minutes long. This is what I say. Nigel Farage has done an amazing job, but Nigel's always been kind of a centrist. Nigel Farage came our way. Nigel Farage has never been, as you know, a proponent of mass deportations. What did he say 90 days ago? We're going to have to go to mass deportations. They all come our way eventually. If you drive the stake in the ground and you're immovable and you can see what's ahead and you have the math on your side. They always come our way. Why do you think we're so immovable? We ain't changing. Because it's all going to come our way. Why? Because we can see the signal, not the noise. You need. The question is going to be, is Nigel Farage Cromwell? You're going to need a Cromwell. That is going to appear. A couple of things going to happen. Tommy Robinson is going to have his rally next Saturday, the 13th. Right. That's going to be, I think, massive. Then the President. United States. Doesn't the President go for a state visit to see King Charles on the 15th or 7th to the. On the 17th? Ben, that's going to. They're going to explode. The Trump, the anti populist nationalist haters in the UK are going to explode because Donald Trump. Our version of Cromwell, our version of Cromwell that saved his country, that stepped into the middle of it and took on a corrupt and incompetent and effete elite. Right. No. England's going to need a Cromwell man or woman. It'll appear. I tell you who my vote is right now. The young girl in Scotland that came at him with an axe. Was she 12 or 13 years old? Right, that's. That's my pick right now. That's my number one draft pick for where we are. Joan. She's Joan of Arc of Scotland. And I think it's quite interesting. You don't. They're not. The Union Jack is not as prominent as Inger because hey. Is Wales and Scotland with them? You got to see Ben Hornbaugh. We got to bounce a second. Give me your closing brilliance sir, before I let you go.

[Ben Harnwell]

Look, something very important happened in the, in the UK over the last 24 hours and that is Keir Starmer with the surprise resignation, as you mentioned at the top of the show, of Angela Rayner, his deputy Prime Minister for effectively corruption has sprung a reshuffle on the UK out is Yvette Cooper, Right?

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah.

[Ben Harnwell]

Because. Because if they use this as in controlling the boats and in his Shabana Mahmood, he's going to be far more hands on. Steve, you say they always come round to us, this reshuffle. Look at all the commentary that's taking place in the uk. It's because Keir Starmer realizes that he hasn't been stopping the boats and that is having a huge resonance in the country. So he's trying to pivot, he knows the direction of the country and he's trying to do something about it. Steve, my question is why is the British Tory party not doing the same? Oh, because the answer. It's a rhetorical question.

[Steve Bannon]

Exactly. Hapless. Ben, where's your social media? Where do people go?

[Ben Harnwell]

Thanks very much. Get in my social media platform of choice, just tap in my surname, Hanwell. And I have. If you think what I've said on the show today is provocative, I have 10 times more that on there on the top of my feed awaiting for your perusal. Yeah, thanks, Steve.

[Steve Bannon]

By the way, you're taking a couple of the Saturday of the 6 o' clock shows have been a global event. Seriously, you're, you're moving the needle all over the place. Ben, you're fantastic. Just a side note, folks, this, it gets a little complicated, but basically the Deputy Prime Minister of England just got turfed out. She was the rising superstar for essentially the same, basically kind of the same reason that the governor of the Federal Reserve is under pressure to resign about real estate and taxes and claiming, you know, different things on your residence. Right. Why they're going after the governor of the Federal Reserve and President Trump's trying to force her to resign is exactly the reason that the Deputy Prime Minister, a rising superstar in the Labour Party, is now gone. Turfed out. Sadiq Khan will be the Prime Minister of England. It's coming. It's coming. Short commercial break. The Joe Allen on transhumanism and the tech Beau Lagarts next in the war room. You missed the IRS tax deadline. You think it's just going to go away? Well, think again. The IRS doesn't mess around and they're applying pressure like we haven't seen in years. So if you haven't filed in a while, even if you can't pay, don't wait. And don't face the IRS alone. You need the trusted experts by your side. Tax Network USA Tax Network USA isn't like other tax relief companies. They have an edge, a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which ones to avoid. They use smart, aggressive strategies to settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. Whether you owe $10,000 or $10 million, Tax Network USA has helped resolve over $1 billion in tax debt. And they can help you, too. Don't wait on this. It's only going to get worse. Call Tax Network USA right now. It's free. Talk with one of their strategists and put your IRS troubles behind you. Put it behind you today. Call Tax Network USA at 1-800-958-1000, that's 800-958-1000 or visit Tax Network USA tnusa.com/bannon Do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you. Do it today. America's Voice Family, are you on Getter yet?

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[War Room Promo Announcer]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[War Room Promo Announcer]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[War Room Promo Announcer]

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[Steve Bannon]

We're going fast, folks. And we're going to do a one on one with everybody. So make sure you go check it out next Friday from 5 to 7 war room live. And then Saturday morning, our Saturday show and we're going to have an extended show after you go off live. We're going to have I think actually going to do that on Real America's Voice. Also Peter Navarro be there, walk through his book and other things. The what's going on in the Trump White House? Tariffs. Think it's some discussion about tariffs. Right. Joe Allen joins me. I'll play some clips in the morning. I want to talk about national conservatism and your time there. But the most important thing that came out of this, folks, and this is a world inflection point, this right here, what happened on the 80th commemoration of the end of World War II where the Chinese Communist Party laid down the fact that hey, we're going to take credit for it, right? Because we need to, we need legitimacy. But we're setting up an order that's opposite from the American order. Remember, we have said for years that the post war international rules based order collapsed because the elites skimmed all the wealth off for themselves and let working class people pay for it and more importantly had their kids pay for it. Spread out American kids spread it on battlefields all over the place. Note to self too, also where I say that the Middle east today is a sideshow to the main event, which is this the Chinese Communist Party and what they're trying to do, put together a new axis and that the Middle east is a sideshow and that the Greater Israel Project is a sideshow to a sideshow. Today at 1:30. If you have Turner Classic Movies, Lawrence of Arabia is going to be on David Lean's great film on the seven pillars of Wisdom, magnificent. And in there they have that exact moment when Lt. Lt. Lawrence enters Cairo's military intelligence headquarter in Cairo. So watch today 1:30 if you got to Joe Allen, the biggest, most important conversation they were having, not about America, not about weapons, they were talking about immortality and they were talking about how today the two of them can live to a buck 25, maybe a buck 50 on organ harvesting. It's everything we've worked on for the War Room forever came together in that Shanghai conference in particular when those guys talked about transhumanism.

[Joe Allen]

Yes, from Silicon Valley all the way over to the World Economic Forum, Beijing, Moscow, this is the transhuman zeitgeist. What we see with Donald Trump having.

[Steve Bannon]

Dinner, it's not some Weird fantasy in Joe Allen's head or in Dark beyond the book, or in Steve Bannon. We were doing it for a reason. And the two of the three most powerful men in the world, it's at the top of their personal agenda, not just in their country's agenda.

[Joe Allen]

Well, I say, Steve, anybody who accused me of just spinning fantasies didn't check the bibliography of the book. This has been well documented for a long time, and it adds a lot of the punch to the constant accusations that the Chinese government is stealing organs from the Uyghurs, Falun Gong, so on and so forth. But honestly, this is kind of tame in comparison to a lot of the schemes that we have growing here in Silicon Valley.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, then why do we. Then why do we have 50 demonic spirits around our beloved president who encircles the greatest man of the 21st century with these demons? Right? Who does that? Why do we do. Because that's the fight. Am I wrong?

[Joe Allen]

First and foremost, I think you need to look at the influence of people like David Sacks, Mark Andreessen, but. And also Alex Carp. It's a wide variety of aims and goals. Palantir CEO, you're not a.

[Steve Bannon]

You're not a Palantir fan.

[Joe Allen]

Not. Not in the least. I would say that Peter Thiel is the most interesting of the transhumanist and his ideas much more coherent. And I oppose them as much as I do any of the others. But from Putin to Xi, and increasingly around President Trump, what you see is that the elite in all of these different directions, are driving towards everything that the transhumanists have been talking about for decades. They want artificial intelligence. They want to merge their minds with it. They want cyborg super soldiers. They want replacement body parts. Perhaps first you steal them from Uyghurs, you steal them from Falun Gong. But there are all these operations to 3D print organs, to grow human bodies without heads and harvest the organs from that. And maybe more, less grisly, maybe more or less realistic, to perhaps replace body parts with machines, kind of Darth Vader model, somewhere between George Lucas and David Cronenberg. I think that it really highlights that none of this, none of what we've been talking about was ever really a conspiracy theory that would imply it was secret. It's just that people have ignored it. And especially on the right with Elon Musk is being called, you know, one of the greatest warriors for American freedom. It's completely forgotten that his dream is of an artificial intelligence system that will be merged with.

[Steve Bannon]

On Twitter, on Twitter, he suppresses. I mean he's not a freedom guy at all. It's ridiculous. We're dog. You know, he went to the Europeans and said we should have no borders between Europe and ourselves. It's just, it's not even worthy of a discussion. The Chinese years ago set up a made in China 2025. The top 10 industries they were going to dominate by the year 2025. The top five quantum computing, advanced chip design, artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence, Robotics and regenerative robotics and CRISPR and biotechnology. Those five, the top five drive you to the singularity, do they not sir?

[Joe Allen]

That is the picture of the singularity and America is ahead on most of those quantum computing. Accepted. We've got a little bit of time on that. The Chinese are catching up and I've spent a lot of time here in D.C. talking to people who deal with this every day, including dealing with the Chinese.

[Steve Bannon]

You've actually relocated essentially to D.C. because there's so much happening.

[Ben Harnwell]

It has.

[Steve Bannon]

And you. And what I'm so proud of you is that you've become one of the leaders in this movement. It's coming together of this, let's call it what it is. It's an anti oligarch tech movement that we saying hey, this thing has to be controlled, really has to be controlled. We can't have, you know, all these people say well you stop. You're not being capitalism. This is not capitalism. What you see there is corporatism. You see this is the reason that the demons are around President Trump. They need that big old government money, right? Bobby Kennedy cut off $500 million of the MRNA vaccine and they went nuts. I said why don't the companies just put it up themselves? They went crazy. Palantir just got a $10 billion contract. SpaceX, 100% of their business is government contracts. They exist because the federal tit is there for them to get to. They need, they need that. They need the regulatory power and they need the, and they need access to the weapons labs, they need access to the universities which we're paying for and they need just good old government cash, Correct?

[Joe Allen]

Absolutely. And this is not going to stop this force. A good example would be the leading, the Future PAC. They've got over 100 million by now to steer the midterms. Knock out senators who might oppose any of their aims, like Josh, artificial intelligence. Josh Hawley being, I would say the leading senator who has a real grasp of the problem and has the back.

[Steve Bannon]

To me about stand up and that kind. I haven't Had a chance to play it. We will play it next week. His speech was magnificent.

[Joe Allen]

Absolutely. As was yours, and as were a lot of speeches there. But Josh Hawley, I think for the first time was a US Senator who came out and said, the problem is the transhumanist ideology. I don't know that any, certainly no prominent congressman has ever uttered the word transhumanism to my knowledge. They talk about artificial intelligence, they talk about the bioengineering, the robotics, all of this. But I think even if transhumanism is too broad, being used too broadly here, it encapsulates the aim, the religious aim, the deep religious aim, to play God, to become gods and to build God.

[Steve Bannon]

Our Lord and Savior. Jesus Christ, on his time on Earth, on his time on earth, warned us about this. You read all that, you know, you've got all the nice stuff. Jesus with the. With the Beatitudes and the Sermon on the Plane, the Sermon on the Mount and all of it. But when he dropped down hard, he dropped down hard. And when the disciples and the apostles came back from that time, he sent them out and they said, hey, you know, we cured and we healed and we blind, but, you know, they. He says, well, that's good. That's what I told you to do. He says, yeah, but they called us. They said, you're Beelzebub, right? You're a devil. You're satanic. And we just channeled your powers. And he said, he kind of said, whoa, whoa. You can, you know, people can do anything they want, but if you blaspheme the Holy Spirit, it's a mortal sin. He says, one unforgivable sin is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is central to our creation, in the image and likeness of God, that is. What's this doing? This is why it's such a big breach. This is against everything the Judeo Christian west has ever stood for right here. And it's no, you're either with us or you're against us. There's no in between on this, is there? Joe Allen.

[Joe Allen]

Artificial intelligence is the apex of the image of God. You remember St. Augustine said, Satan is the ape of God, the imitator of God. Artificial intelligence is the ape of the image of God. And they want to build a digital ape of God itself.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang over a second. Philip Patrick's going to join us. I'm going to talk about the Federal Reserve. Joe Allen's going to stick around. We're going to come back to. Joe Allen. Birchgold.com Take your phone at text 98 Bannon. That would be me, 989-898 Ultimate Guide, which is totally free for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump, not the era Trump. The age of Trump. Short break. Back with Phil Pinnama. What if he had the brightest mind in the War room delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War Room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets, Jim predicted Trump's Electoral College victory exactly 312 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, MoneyGPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos. Bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes and even threats to national security. Right now, War Room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go to rickardswarroom.com that's all one word. Rickards war Room. Rickards with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's Rickards war room.com do it today. War Room.

[Joe Allen]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

Welcome back. As we tell you, it's not the price of gold, it's the, it's the process that drives the value of gold. That's what you got to focus on this geopolitics, which I've been harping on the last couple days because it is the most important thing that's going on in addition to the funding for the sovereignty of our country. But that gets to the heart of it, what the CCP is doing. Philip Patrick Birchgold comes on some. We've been discussing the last now day and a half since it came out, this amazing piece from the Secretary of Treasury which is never, this has never happened before where Secretary of Treasury has come out and basically said the Federal Reserve, the central bank in the United States has to be massively restructured and we have to think about a new mandate. In addition, Philip, we now know that the central banks, they had the BRICS meeting the day after the military parade. And coming out of that meeting, we know countries like Poland has said, hey, we're going from 20% of our assets in gold and physical gold to 30%. I want you to tie all Those together because in this economic crisis we have because of the corporatist and the globalist. Central banks are absolutely at the heart of this. And now we have a guy like Scott Bessant who like you, was your contributor here. He was a contributor for four years. And Scott, the reason we were so we pushed Scott so hard. He's a safe pair of hands for the global capital markets. Scott Besant is not a guy that runs around with this heron fire, right? For him this is, and I've pushed this article out starting yesterday. I mean, this is monumental. So how is this going to tie back to what we call the pattern recognition and people thinking about driving the value of gold as a hedge?

[Philip Patrick]

Sir, look, first of all, I read the article from Bess and this is, as everyone knows, isn't some fringe blogger. This is Trump's own Treasury Secretary. And like you said, this is a serious, serious guy. And when, when he says that the Fed's gone off the rails, people should absolutely listen. You know, they've turned their role since 2008 essentially into a power grab, right? They bloated their powers far beyond their mandate. And instead of focusing on that legally mandated statutory job which is stable prices and employment, it is shape shifted into a monstrosity with tentacles that are penetrating fiscal policy, debt management and regulation. And the mission creep as we've been talking about for four years has had serious unintended consequences, right? It's propped up asset owners, widened significantly inequality. It's created cheap debt for big firms while smaller businesses got squeezed. And it's Fed ultimately the inflation that has punished working families in the United States. I've been listening to the legacy media for the last month blaming Trump for putting the Fed's independence at risk. But it's the Fed itself that's put its independence at risk, right? It content, it's constant interventions every time Congress overspends. It just expects the Fed now to bail it out. Now it's independence, credibility and are all in jeopardy. So you know, Besson said in the article, and I think he's absolutely right, it is time now that the Fed scale back, stop the experiments and ultimately get back to basics. It is past time that we do it. And I think that has been a contributing fact to central banks globally setting records for gold buying. They seen that same loss of credibility over the last 20 years. They've seen the Fed shapeshift from a central bank into a mad scientist of monetary policy which has had significant unintended consequences. Now, separate to that, right, we're seeing Central banks around the world step up gold purchases. Poland had mentioned it, but a recent survey of central banks, 75% of them said they would significantly be increasing gold holdings over the next half a decade. This is a trend that's continuing. So we need to stop the bleeding. And I think the Federal Reserve are a big part of that. Obviously it's debt service, it's spending, it's everything else, but it's a big part of it. And while all of this is happening, we're now seeing Xi, Modi and Putin all cozy up. It's time we take action and do it.

[Steve Bannon]

Now I've got to ask because you've got a great way and I think this is one of the reasons Birch Gold's been. We've been such a heavy, such a successful partnership. It's not only got a support as we write these end of the dollar empire and we're kind of ahead of the curve by a year, year and a half every time we put something out. But you have a great way of breaking things down. I know that's why people that go to Birch Gold love dealing with you guys. I want to hit reset for a moment and go back to what you said. The mainstream media for the last six weeks has been all over Trump because Trump's taken away the independence of the Federal Reserve. This is Trump as a dictator. This Trump is an autocrat. Scott Bessant, the reason he's been one of the most successful secretaries of treasury in the history of this country. And we knew this from my long term relationship with him and promoting him and pushing him as Secretary of the treasury because he's a safe pair of hands. He is not a guy that goes off hat cocked. He understands how you have to handle the capital markets. Hit rewind for a second and tell him, I just want to hear you explain again of why the media has been saying, oh, Trump is intruding on the independence of the Fed. What actions did the Fed take over the last decade since the financial crisis of 2008, which was also caused by them, they were one of the big to Greenspan that entire crowd. What is it in Bernanke? What is that they've done to put a lie to that and to see in Scott Besant's essay in the Wall Street Journal to show you exactly what they've done and what the actions have to be taken to undo it?

[Philip Patrick]

Sir, look, we need to reform the Federal Reserve, right? They, they need to focus on their dual mandate and price stability needs to be the focus. Right? And They've gone away from that. What have they done? They've refused to let markets do what they should do. Ultimately, when we have a recession, we need to let markets come down. We need to curb spending. But they, they facilitated that time and time again. Every time we've seen a recession, they've dropped interest rates. They allow huge quantitative easing, huge spending to push the problem further down the road. And it's very effective at doing that. But it creates a bigger problem time and time again. And all the while, we've been amassing debt, low interest rates, and we've stimulated a massive problem problem. And that problem at this point, you know, President Trump is trying his hardest to deal with, but the Fed are complicit. Absolutely. They need to reform the Fed and they need to focus on their mandate and stop overextending. It's that simple.

[Steve Bannon]

Philip, I want to, now more than ever, we need people to go and get, and talk to you guys and get access to it. So where, where do they go and how they get, how they get a relationship with you guys?

[Philip Patrick]

It's really simple. It's birchgold.com Bannon birchgold.com forward slash Bannon. We are putting out new information all the time. We have incredible blog posts. We've got the end of the Dollar Empire series. We've got a, you know, a guide on investing in gold under a Trump administration. So there's a lot of good information. I encourage everyone to reach out, get the information, read through, through it and educate yourself. And that's it.

[Steve Bannon]

Now more than ever. There's so many things, there's so much going on right now. And I can tell you, for all the libertarians, everybody, for years saying in the Rand Paul crowd, the Ron Pearl crowd, we got, we got to do something with the Fed. Scott Bessant, as President Trump will do, there's going to be action coming out of this. I mean, he's actually talking about a fundamental restructuring of the Federal Reserve and many of the functions that they've kind of grabbed, including bank regulation, because he's saying, hey, they've actually had a power grab. They regulate the banks. They actually work on the profitability of the banks. They control all the lending, they set the rates, they've centralized financial power when no one intended this, including as much as people criticize, even the creation of the Federal Reserve, even the guys that created the monster coming out of Jekyll island, never, never anticipated what, what he and Scott's essay in the, in the Wall Street Journal is called the Gain of Function Federal Reserve. I mean, it is a complete smackdown of this. And Philip, this will lead to a restructuring of the Federal Reserve, no doubt.

[Philip Patrick]

Yeah, absolutely. And it couldn't happen soon enough. And also I love the fact that Besson's out there writing, letting the public know, getting, getting them information. It's fantastic. So, yeah, couldn't come soon enough. I'm very excited. And Bessant's the man to do it.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah, we're going to have, by the way, we come out with a physical copy of the End of the Dollar Empire. We've got seven free installments. Philip and I and his team, we're working on installment 8, 9. There's so much going on. We're going to actually talk about some events we're going to have this fall. Philip, one more time. I want everybody to get access. You know, people say, oh, gosh, gold's on a roll. Understand the process that drives the value of gold. Understand why it's been a hedge against times of financial instability and turbulence for 5,000 years. You want to see it? Ain't Trump causing the turbulence. Right. It's things like these central banks are causing the turbulence. And until we break them up, they ain't going to go away. One more time, Philip. Where do people go?

[Philip Patrick]

Birchgold.com forward/bannon. Get the information there is really good stuff. Birchgold.com Bannon thank you, brother Philip.

[Steve Bannon]

Patrick, what a role. On a roll. President Trump, when I say sees the institutions, this is what we're talking about. What do I say? The impervious. The most powerful institutions in the city. My belief, the CIA, the Federal Reserve and centcom. And people say, well, not about the courts. Well, hey, maybe, but I'm talking about power organizations. The CIA runs the entire deal. That's, that's the brain, the nervous system right there. They're in every department of the government. Deep. They are the deep state. Deep into it. Then you got the Federal Reserve and you see that Besant finally laid it out of all the tentacles like an octopus choking the American people and delivering and working for the lords of easy money because they're the ones that actually own the regional Federal Reserve banks like the New York Fed. Hello. Oh, the equity doesn't mean anything. Well, it doesn't mean anything. Why don't we take it back from the broker dealers that own it and we'll just give it, disperse it to the American people. Hey, this says it has no value. It's meaningless. Fine. If that's the case, let's take it back and let's just distribute the shares. Why not? And then you got Centcom and Centcom is my. The Middle east is a sideshow. In Israel, the situation, particularly greater Israel, which is a project the American people never signed off on, is a sideshow to a sideshow. The threat to Israel and the threat to the Jewish people are in the streets of London and in New York right now which are. London is a no go zone, Brussels is a no go zone, Paris is a no go zone and New York's about to be a no go zone. And President Trump has got Scott Bessant and they're on a major fund. This is something beyond what Ron Paul even thought about. Start with a deconstruction of the Federal Reserve. Take these powers, even if, even if institutions should have them, and that's a question. Disperse them out to some of these other institutions, particularly the control over the, the banks themselves. Absolutely incredible. This is what I mean by maximalist urgency and seize the institutions because we're burning daylight. We're burning daylight. Absolutely incredible. Couldn't be prouder of the team over Treasury. Just couldn't be prouder given all this economic turbulence. Everything that got from hell over from the Biden economy informed the global astonish. Just absolutely incredible. Home tide lock Steve 60 go to home title lock Steve 60 you get for one buck but say it's absolutely free.

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[Joe Allen]

Ton of speaking events coming up. The most important right now. The next will be September 26th. If you if you are in the Orlando area, I'll be at High Point Church in Lake Wales, Florida, an event put on by the Florida Citizens Alliance. AI in education will be me, Braden Sorbo, Kevin Sorbo, son, many other people. Tickets right at the top of my social media at Joe B. OT xyz. They're cheap, they'll go fast. Please come on down.

[Steve Bannon]

Your interviews over at natcon. I want to we're going to talk about more. We're going to spend a lot of time on natcom. Josh Hawley, I think we're going to get the senator on. Scott Besson is going to join us Monday or Tuesday. Where do people go for your amazing interviews?

[Joe Allen]

You'll find everything at the war room social media. You'll find it on the war room Rumble Channel. Interviews with Jeffrey Miller, Michael Toscano, a ton of Jeffrey Tucker, everyone's favorite ton of stuff. So have a look there. And also again at my social media oebotxyz mini speaking engagements coming up. I think you guys are gonna love this.

[Steve Bannon]

Want all the war and posse to get there to see Joe Live. Joe, thank you so much. See you Monday. Taj, I had you get away from your work today to come and join us. Not about the coffee or they're going to hit the coffee. Pretty outrageous what's been leaked about the Navy Seals in Korea.

[Taj]

Yep. Yeah, I saw it yesterday. If it's true, right? So is this another hoax released by the New York Times this may Trump or is it a Leak of classified information. Remember the old saying, loose lips sink ships? What happened to that?

[Steve Bannon]

Okay, hang on, hang on. But hang on. Give me. Give me a minute. Give me a minute on what the story says. What's the. What's the issue? Tell the audience what happened.

[Taj]

Yeah. The story says in 2019, Trump authorized a covert action mission. Navy SEALs to swim across the beach and plant a listening device of some type, signal intelligence. And then, you know, they. They got inserted by a nuclear submarine. And then they use their SDV SEAL delivery vehicles to get the guys close to the beach. Then the guys swam ashore, and supposedly they got busted by some North Korean fishermen, some. Some actual. Some divers. And the guys thought it was a North Korean patrol, so they lit him up, they shot him, they killed the fishermen. Slash shellfish divers. That's what the story says. Who knows? And then they swam out and it says they. They punctured the lungs of the fishermen so the bodies would sink, you know.

[Steve Bannon]

To clean their tracks, the bodies. But the point here is the deep state. This is the deep state. Leaking highly classified information to the media in the worst way possible. Make the seals look bad and particularly make Trump look incompetent. Right? That he's sending cowboys out there out the world to kill guys.

[Taj]

Yeah. If this. If this is true and this really happened, the. This is like, this is a national, national level mission. You know, the President greenlights missions like this. It's. They got nuclear submarines and they say Seal Team 6 was involved. These are all national level assets that are involved in a national level mission. You know, going. Going over. Over the beach in a. In a sovereign country and planting devices. So just the fact that this leaked is crazy.

[Steve Bannon]

You're a criminal. You're a criminal by leaking it. Right, because this is how class. Right? Give me six. Give me 60 seconds on coffee. People are loving it. Where did they go?

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[Steve Bannon]

Get 15% off. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.

[Taj]

Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Been very upset about this thing being leaked, and who knows if it's true or not. It's New York Times, you know, fake news Trevor Comstock, I went to this gathering last night and people were raving about your new product for the human brain. Give me a minute on that. Yeah.

[Trevor Comstock]

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[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, brother. Appreciate you taking Saturday.

[Trevor Comstock]

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[Steve Bannon]

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