Senator Josh Hawley (3:22)

Well, here's the thing that they want to do, Steve. These guys in Silicon Valley, these oligarchs. That's exactly the right word. They want to rule this country forever. I mean, these are guys who have so much power already, they want even more power. They are focused on on extending their lifespans at the expense, by the way, of every working man's lifespan. You look what's happening in this country, look what's happening in my state, in the heartland of this country. Life expectancy going down for working people, it's going down. They are ravaged by drugs, ravaged by chronic disease. Meanwhile, these Silicon Valley oligarchs are spending a billion dollars a year so that they can live longer and longer. And here's the worst part. They're using AI systems to help them and hurt us. They're using AI to shorten the lifespans of working people by taking away their jobs, taking away their livelihoods. And they're turning around and using that same AI to try to make themselves immortal. It would be crazy if it weren't so dangerous. And the ideology that these people have is that they should have all the power. Working people should have no power. They should run the country, not the people. That's not what we're founded on.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (4:27)

Steve, your individual inquiry into this leads you to believe we're not talking about science fantasy or science fiction, correct? I mean. Cause sometimes when you mention this thing, people go, what are you guys talking about? Immortality. Your individual research into this topic makes it very real to you, sir.

Senator Josh Hawley (4:48)

Yeah, I mean, listen, all I can tell you is that the tech people who are spending, literally, when I say billion dollars, I'm not kidding. I mean, they're spending cumulatively billions of dollars on these new wellness regimens. They think that they can extend their lifespan into the far horizon. But here's the bottom line. Whatever. The truth is in that they are using artificial intelligence to further their ideology. And that's what matters for us, Steve. That's what matters to this country and for working people, they're going out there and they're turning AI into a weapon to help the oligarchs and to hurt the working man. We cannot allow that to happen. Right now, AI is turning into a tool of the rich and powerful to extend their control over this country. We got to stop that. There'll be no jobs left for working people if this goes on. If we don't put guardrails up and if we don't make this technology serve working people rather than the other way around.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (5:40)

Let's play the clip from yesterday. We got a bunch. Let's play the first clip for Senator Hawley.

Senator Josh Hawley (5:45)

Why is it so important to Meta? Go ahead, Missette.

Facebook Researcher / Whistleblower (5:47)

Children drive product adoption in the household, and VR is a gaming device.

Senator Josh Hawley (5:52)

So they drive product adoption. Which means what for Meta? Just cash it out for us.

Facebook Researcher / Whistleblower (5:56)

That means the reason that families buy VR headsets is for kids, which means.

Senator Josh Hawley (5:59)

More money for Meta.

Facebook Researcher / Whistleblower (6:00)

Yes.

Senator Josh Hawley (6:00)

So it's about profits at the end of the day. Let's just be really clear. Meta's number one bottom line is money. It is profits bar nothing. That's it. And what you're testifying to is they will do anything, anything, including exposing our children to the most vile sexual abuse if it means more profits for Meta. Have I got that right?

Facebook Researcher / Whistleblower (6:23)

Yes. If I may, please. When I was doing research to identify the harms that children were facing in VR, which I had to be sneaky about because legal wouldn't actually let me do it, I identified that Roblox, the app on nvr, was being used by coordinated pedophile rings. They set up strip clubs and they pay children to strip, and that Robux can be converted into real money. So. And I flagged this to Meta. I said, under no circumstances should we host the app Roblox on their headset. You can now download it in their app store.

Senator Josh Hawley (7:00)

I'm going to turn this back over to the chairwoman because my time has expired. I just want to end by saying this. It is abundantly clear to me that it is time to allow parents and victims to sue this company. They have got to be able to get into court and to get in front of a jury and hold this company accountable. And that begins with Mark Zuckerberg. There has to be accountability. We need to open the courtroom doors and allow victims to have their day in court.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (7:26)

Holly, you got to go pretty far in the woods to hit your tripwire, but they hit the tripwire. Your stay. Who were those folks and what caused you to come on so hot there at the end?

Senator Josh Hawley (7:36)

These are researchers who worked for Facebook. These are Facebook employees. And Steve, you know, you hear all this stuff that they were testifying about, all the child porn that's all over the web, you and I both remember, it wasn't so long ago if you even mentioned child pornography, if you mentioned child sex abuse material. You were called every name in the book by the left. They said, oh, that's just a fantasy. That's all a conspiracy theory that's not going on. These are Facebook researchers, big time liberals, by the way. You read their declarations. These are libs. I mean, if their political views, they're not conservatives, but they. It made them sick to their stomach what this company was doing, exposing kids to child sex abuse material in order to make money. And that's the problem with these tech oligarchs. It's all about their power. It's all about their money. There's nothing they won't do, Steven. I mean, nothing they will not do in order to extend their control over our families and over our country. And we cannot allow that to happen.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (8:30)

Senator Hawley, what you're hearing yesterday showed is that these researchers were paid to actually go do. They showed it to senior management. This is happening. Senior management went out of their way to hide that, to make sure they continued on to make profits. Am I correct? They not only didn't make any changes, they hid the fact of what exactly was happening and children were exposed to.

Senator Josh Hawley (8:54)

Yeah, they hid it and they falsified it, Steve. I mean, they came in and they said to these researchers, oh, whoa, your research is showing that there's a lot of child abuse on Facebook. Falsify the data. And then they turned around to the public and their shareholders and said, we've done all of this research and it's all fine. I mean, Facebook's a great upstanding company. They're lying to their shareholders in the public. They're committing fraud. And listen, if you follow these companies at all, you know that this is just par for the course. But it's sickening when it involves our kids. I mean, is there nothing these people won't do in order to make money and get power? And the answer is no, there is nothing, including taking away the innocence of our own children. These people, they have got to be.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (9:32)

Held accountable because of the heroic efforts of the FTC and even Lina Khan before that, and President Trump in his first term. They're in federal court. We're looking to break them up both on Instagram and other, you know, other things that they have to actually force them, to force them to start to deconstruct their company. But the but somehow Zuckerberg got into a dinner last week sitting next to the president, states, particularly on the day that Bobby Kennedy had the star Chamber. Given everything that Facebook had done to steal the 2020 election, suppress any information about the vaccine mandates, all of it, how does that happen? How are you going to get. How are you going to get folks in the Senate to get worked up to actually go after Facebook as you should and open up to people to go after them when somehow somebody in the administration and or the White House thinks it's appropriate to have Zuckerberg sitting next to President Trump at dinner?

Senator Josh Hawley (10:29)

You know, isn't it amazing that as you say, the very day that Bobby Kennedy's getting raked over the coals because he's trying to take on the people responsible for the chronic disease epidemic among our kids, this guy, Mark Zuckerberg, one of the worst purveyors of child abuse, when you look at this testimony from yesterday, is going scot free. I just want to say, emphasize something you said about President Trump. He took on these companies in his first term. All of these antitrust investigations and prosecutions that he launched that are now bearing fruit. That, to my mind, is one of the most important significant things he has done. We need to keep the pedal to the metal on that, number one. But number two, your point about Congress. Congress has a role to play here. Congress shouldn't just sit back and say, well, good luck to you, President Trump. Good luck to you, doj, you guys go prosecute him. No, we need to open up the courthouse doors on these companies right now. These companies are the only ones in America who cannot be held accountable in court for what they do. You know, if Ford builds a car that blows up, you can sue them. That's as it should be right now. These companies have built platforms where your kids are getting abused. You can't do anything about it. Congress needs to change that. Congress needs to end the sweetheart deal and allow Mark Zuckerberg and Mehta and all the rest to be sued in court by victims.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (11:43)

Last thing I know, you got to bounce. We got about a minute or two. This education report that came out is nothing but catastrophic. Completely falling off the cliff of young people's ability with all the money we put in education, fallen off the cliff on reading, on reading comprehension, on. On writing, on math skills, on science, across the board. What can be done about it? I mean, this is now, this has now become a crisis. And it just ties back to a lot of factors, but it ties back the big falling off the cliff goes Back to the beginning of the smartphone. What say you, sir?

Senator Josh Hawley (12:20)

I would just say this, that the smartphone and the AI revolution, pretty soon our kids aren't going to be able to write a thing because AI is going to do it all for them. Already you hear these technology gurus say we need to outsource teaching. Let's just replace all the teachers with phones. Let's replace all the teachers with computers. Let's just let the kids sit in front of a screen. I mean, are you kidding me? That's the worst thing possible. We need to put more power back in the hands of parents. Parents have had their power taken away from them left, right and center. In education, in technology. We need to be putting power back into the hands of parents. And that begins with taking power away from these tech companies. I don't want them running our education. They're destroying it. I don't want them running our kids health. They're destroying it. And I sure as heck don't want them running this country.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (13:04)

Senator Josh Hawley. Where do people go to keep up with you, sir?

Senator Josh Hawley (13:07)

Holly Moe, you can follow me on Twitter, on social media, all across the board and josh hawley.com thank you sir.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (13:14)

Appreciate you.

Senator Josh Hawley (13:15)

Thank you.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (13:16)

Got to ask yourself, one of the most MAGA state in the union, Missouri have generated two of the best MAGA senators. Think about that folks in Missouri you're doing this redistricting. The only thing I would say is give us that last seat. Let's go. Maximize maximization. Don't give the Democrats. Don't give them anything. They don't deserve it. Don't rate it. They've taken 20 what, 25 seats in New England, folks. This is all inextricably linked. Just telling him one things we've got to do is start breaking up these companies, say oh we need these national champions against the Chinese Communist Party. Hell, they're helping the Chinese Communist Party. Don't give me that excuse that oh, this is our, this is our bulwark against the Chinese Communist party. Farthest from the truth. What happened yesterday you saw Facebook, you saw Zuckerberg's one of those evil people in this nation. He should be in prison for stealing the 2020 election. Stealing. You saw them in all their glory yesterday. We'll play. I'm gonna get some composite compilation of the clips from this hearing. Absolutely monumental. What these whistleblowers are saying curdle your blood. Short commercial break Birchgold.com Go talk to Philip Patrick in the team today. Birchgold.com promo code Bannon talk to Philip Patrick and the team. Why is gold on a run? What are the forces driving it? Short Commercial break.

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So he's threading the needle. But he's coming to our side on the mass deportations. Nigel, I think 90 days ago said they got to start considering and doing mass deportations in the United Kingdom of these quote, unquote asylum seekers, which is one of the reasons they broke off from the EU in the beginning. So it's coming our way. Gold is at 3684. Hello. And I don't talk about the price of gold because the price of gold is the daily price of gold. What's most important is to understand what's driving that. That is why we partnered with Birch Gold many years ago, because they agreed there's a lot of these gold sellers out there, but they agreed that they wanted a smart customer and they wanted that customer to understand the forces that drive the value of gold. And so that's what we've done together. The end of the dollar empire. I think we're going to have, I think if we can pull off some big announcements at our live shows Friday and Saturday in the greater New York City area. 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And also the, you know, Netanyahu taking out the negotiating team of in Qatar. Look, Qatar, I think Qatar's bad guys. Think they've been bad guys from the beginning. I think they financed the Muslim Brotherhood. So all this stuff about they're providing sanctions safe thing, it's all. I'm not a Qatar fan. Qatar is the funder of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Brotherhood control Hamas. But I think yesterday showed that the Hamas, this thing about Hamas and Tehran, it's not. That's not real. It's Hamas in Qatar and. But when President Trump wants to get to a solution, maybe the thing you don't do is kill the negotiating team. And President Trump wants a solution. We have to be very focused. Jake Seawolf joins us from my Patriot Supply, one of the great companies out there, Jake. And do we have the club? So yesterday they had the, they had the autism hearing with Johnson. They had the, they had the, they had the hearing yesterday with Senator Hawley. They had another hearing too on you know they call them UAPs, but let's just stick with UFOs. And we had some of the, you know, some of the congressmen that are frequent guests on the war room and you had some Navy gun camera or some gun camera footage of look like some pretty impossible stuff. Jake Sebolf, is this just because we haven't played this up? Is this to divert our attention? Do you think this is real with all the issues we have with the administrative state, deep state, our sovereignty, the beginning phase of the third World War, the kinetic part, I mean Jake, how do you see it? I know you follow this closely because the footage is pretty shocking. And they had, the witnesses they had were all former, I think military or military officials. So this was not a group of flakes. This is as I think they said at the end of the hearing. These are not guys who drove up in a Winnebago with tie dye shirts and ponytails. This looks like solid citizens. Your take, sir.

Jake Seawolf (24:24)

So my big question though is from my experience of being deployed and everything is since when do we shoot hellfire missiles at objects that are not attacking us? Like that's a what, $155,000 missile if I'm not mistaken. But secondly, why is every alien footage so blurry? Now I will give them credit that it is a bunch of military guys walking in there and everything, but this is something that like I personally want to follow. The thing that scares me is now they're saying that Russia, China and us, we're all going to start like building technology to go out and find these aliens. And what does that mean for us? Higher taxes, higher inflation, like everything's going to go up again guaranteed if we, if we go on this alien hunt.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (25:14)

So hang on, so you think that, do, do you not believe that was a hellfire missile? That regardless of whether in your target acquisition, if you're doing it with people coming in to get you, do you believe the footage or at least the congressman curated it, that you saw a hellfire missile bounce off of a ufo, something they couldn't identify As a regular drone or something, I could believe some.

Jake Seawolf (25:41)

Things do look like crap under night vision. I do have to admit that. And that was clearly.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (25:47)

But here's the point. Are you saying that they've tried climate change? They try everything. The pandemic. The, you know, the pandemic. COVID19 the, you know, things associated with climate change. The world's gonna change. The seas are gonna rise, the forests are gonna be on fire. They're always trying to intimidate you and get you to huddle inside and just watch streaming, you know, bread and circuses. Right. And stay doom scrolling on your heavy kids. Are you saying that this is the. Since nothing else has worked, that the populist nationalist movement is punched through this. And this is why this fight at the beginning of the show against the. Against Big Pharma is so important. You just had Josh Hawley about against big tech. Right? We need to stand up and take on these big conglomerates. Are you saying this entire.

Steve Bannon (26:39)

Your concern is.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (26:39)

This entire UFO thing is looks like another SOP to the big arms merchants or the space guys, et cetera, to divert our attention from what's real in front of us, which is the powers of. The powers of money and technology trying to control this country and every person in it.

Jake Seawolf (27:00)

Absolutely. I mean, your sign behind you says it all. There are no coincidences. Right? And so like we always have this huge problem. Now the media is shifting back over to, oh look, we attacked a ufo guys. They're real like you. Who wants to pay up more taxes? No, we'll just increase that through inflation. And I mean, ironic enough like, I just. I hate seeing this kind of crap because it does take away from everything.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (27:27)

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Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (27:37)

Thank you. Hangovers. I would take Burchett, APL and Burleson. Burleson's one of those Missouri types. We love these guys. These. These are War Room Posse contributors. War Room contributors. They're there and I'm telling you, APL is kind of the tip of this and she's been so great on the Kennedy assassination. Something is up. We'll get to the bottom of it. But there are no. It sounds. It is kind of odd come at the end of the climate change and the pandemic and they, you know, they didn't scare you. You still too ornery and got too much cussedness to shelter in place. Short commercial break return. We got Jake Seawolf and we're going to California next.

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Senator Josh Hawley (29:37)

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Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (30:41)

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Jake Seawolf (31:09)

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Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (31:19)

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Jake Seawolf (31:20)

I know a lot of your war time, your war room posse here has been calling in and we love them. We love hearing from you guys. So if you're one of the few that have not called in yet, strongly suggest it definitely come in, talk to us. We'd love to hear from you guys. You're some of our favorite people.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (31:38)

And Jake, what is your, what is your Twitter fee? What's your, what are your coordinates so people can get what you're putting up, particularly about this issue on UFOs, which we will drill down on.

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Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (32:01)

Awesome. Jake, thank you. Great to have you on here. I'll contact you after the show. Yeah.

Jake Seawolf (32:07)

Great to talk to you, Steve, thank you so much for your time. And thank you. War room.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (32:11)

This hearing yesterday was wild. It was wild. And you had three of them up on Capitol Hill at the same time. That's what's so hard to kind of juggle things during the day. It's got so much going on. But like I said, three of our best, Burleson, Burchett and APL Anna Paulina, Luna, we're all up there helping break it down. We've been raided by Vikings here in the war room. Sophia Karstens from California. And you've been up in people's grill about this redistricting fight and Gavin Newsom kicking off his 2028 campaign by doing this. So put in perspective because we've been leading the fight with Alex DeGrasse in 21 and 22 to do the redistricting then and then to get Texas, obviously Florida. But this California situation, you have a 52 seat delegation, 41, excuse me, 43 right now, to nine with a state that votes basically 40% Republican.

Sophia Karstens (33:07)

Right.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (33:08)

That's going to go 48 to four if the thing. And I know you've done some polling. How are we going to defeat this? How are we going to. Because everybody wants right now is that Newsom's running for president, he's using this, his memes against President Trump, and this is a springboard. How can this be defeated?

Sophia Karstens (33:23)

So you're exactly right, and there's a couple of things you need to unpack there. But roughly, obviously, we understand that when you're talking about districts, roughly, that is supposed to be a representation of voter block. Right. So already in 2008, we're looking at a voter block that is not reflective at all. In 2008, when they changed the districting.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (33:48)

When they gerrymandered it last time.

Sophia Karstens (33:50)

I'm being kind.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (33:51)

No, because it's most call. It is the most. They call us gerrymandering for what we've done in Texas.

Sophia Karstens (33:57)

Correct.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (33:57)

It's less.

Sophia Karstens (33:58)

Well, so there's better than California. I'm glad you brought that up. So, first of all, I submit that the redistricting in 2008 was already puts us at an illegitimate disparity because it is not reflective. It took us from 40%. Okay, that's fine. We're the minority, which I suggest after the fires is higher than that. But even if you go by those numbers. Oh, you think so?

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (34:21)

You think it's real. Been a real political scene change because of the fires.

Sophia Karstens (34:24)

I do.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (34:24)

We'll get to that.

Sophia Karstens (34:25)

But the, the reality is that that voter block was taken in 2008 from 40% down to 12 in terms of the representation. So it's already illegitimate. Now what we're looking at is you want to redistrict again to take away another 7% and bring us down to 5. And I'm glad you brought up Texas. This is not that. I know we all want to sit there and be like, tit for tat. It's exactly the same. Redistricting is reduced. And to be clear, I'm against gerrymandering no matter where it is. First of all, Texas is not my problem. In California is. But the reality is all things are not equal. And California, you have to look at the downstream implications of redistricting. So in Texas, even when you're redistricting, it is not. The disparity of the voter block is not changing to such a degree as it is in California. But that's not even really why it matters in California. When you. And this is also why all eyes are on California with this. You actually have a largely red state that is carried blue by three counties. And it is those three counties that if you are able to.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (35:38)

Okay, slow down because I keep saying this. There's more maga. Voters and that. Yeah, you just referred to California as a red state. As a red state.

Sophia Karstens (35:47)

It is a red state.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (35:48)

I want to go slow. Back it up. Walk me through that. You're saying California is a red state.

Sophia Karstens (35:53)

That three, if you look at a heat map. And so first of all, there's no such thing as swing states, only swing counties. That's how they were able to influence elections. But that's a conversation for a different day. They didn't target it federally, they targeted it counties.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (36:07)

And very smart.

Sophia Karstens (36:08)

And the example that I always use because it's the easy and obvious Cook county in Illinois, as goes Chicago, so goes Cook county, as goes Cook county, so goes Illinois, as goes Illinois, so goes Michigan, Wisconsin, north and South Carolina. All those dominoes fall. Los Angeles county is the mother of all swing counties right now because after the fires, as I said, we have seen a significant departure from the Democratic Party. And I wouldn't say that people have gone running too bright red, but they are certainly leaving the Democratic Party in center or center. Right.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (36:47)

Okay, hang on. How do you know that?

Sophia Karstens (36:49)

Empirically, our polling shows that people are leaving the Democratic Party.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (36:55)

Also, when you say our polling so people know you're just not somebody wandering by the Capitol that dropped into the today.

Sophia Karstens (37:03)

I.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (37:06)

Mean, what are your, what are your credentials? How did we end up reaching out to you?

Sophia Karstens (37:10)

Right. How did this happen? So I am treasurer of a super PAC called Decentralized America. And we can get to the reason why it's called that, but I just.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (37:20)

It smells like tech, bro. But keep going, keep going.

Sophia Karstens (37:23)

Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. It's actually all, all the verticals. But I just commissioned a poll. Zogby poll. Not just candidates in the state.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (37:35)

That's smart because Zogby is not a. Not a MAGA poster.

Sophia Karstens (37:38)

No, you wanted to have. I wanted to have the real numbers and I wanted smart. Yep, I wanted to be able to have the real numbers.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (37:45)

So what does that poll show you in your pack to show you that? Can you, can you back up the statement that Los Angeles county people are fleeing the Democratic Party?

Sophia Karstens (37:55)

So it shows that, well, California wide people are leaving the Democratic Party. I predict that we will probably, if we drill down, find that most of those people are in and around L. A County because I think that the fires have led people to be. Our polls show that over half of people are ready for change in our elected leadership in the state, that they are unhappy with the policies, they are unhappy with the leaders of those policies. So when you look at the LA county nugget of blue. If you look at a heat map, you see that if you actually flip LA county and you don't actually have to win, you just have to not lose by a certain percentage, you flip the state. And if you flip California right now, you flip the country.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (38:52)

I know, I got that.

Sophia Karstens (38:53)

But that's why they're drilling down on the redistricting.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (38:56)

That's like economists saying, you know, they all say, assume this. That's like, I got a can. And I say, I can't get it open. I gotta assume a can opener. I mean, what you're talking about is so monumental. It is so having lived out in California for 20 years, let me go back to this. There's 40 million people in the state. Correct. It's the fifth or sixth biggest county in the world.

Sophia Karstens (39:15)

Yeah. It's its own country.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (39:16)

And in LA and Southern Northern California are not just two different states. The interior, all the blue is on the coast. Right. All the money and all the blue essentially is on the coast. Yeah, yeah. And so LA county of that is what, I don't know, the Southland they used to call it in the old days. That's almost half of the state. It is like 11 or 12. Not just the population of Los Angeles City, even Los Angeles county, but that whole Southland is like 12 to 15 million people, isn't it?

Sophia Karstens (39:45)

Yeah.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (39:45)

And it's a font of illegal aliens. This is one of the reasons that they wanted, they wanted. They wanted the census like they wanted all of it. So how are you going to. How are you going to win, lose by less, Which I take it is lose by. Instead of 80, 20 or 75. 25 is lose. 60, 40.

Sophia Karstens (40:04)

Right, right. There's. There are numbers. Wait, I can get you the exact numbers for that. It is. You're exactly right. All of these issues are entwined and it's. I'm not saying it's a light lift, we got a heavy lift, but it actually is doable. When you look at the messaging in the polling that we just did, it shows what people, what issues really are resonating with people and what their climate is.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (40:34)

When you issues for this, for the vote in November, the special election for.

Sophia Karstens (40:40)

No, no. Well, that is also. They're not really concerned with voters about that. But the, the gubernatorial for 2026, if you look at the messaging, the messaging of the. Our current elected officials is not resonating with even Los Angeles county, which is historically, like I said, bright blue.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (41:02)

What are they saying? What are the people saying? The Messaging. They're looking for the actions.

Sophia Karstens (41:06)

They are wanting people who are going to be common sense. They are wanting people who are going to be looking at the issues that they're actually facing, which is inflation, the homeless problem that we're dealing with, you know, cost of living, affordability. Right, affordability. Because, I mean, let's be honest. And this is another really big.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (41:28)

But that's Mandami. The left can take that and weaponize that.

Sophia Karstens (41:31)

Right. And they do. But the. Also the other checkmate that we have is, you know, in these pockets where you're having a group or a subset of the population that is disenfranchised socioeconomically, that usually translates into racist by default. So when you are trying to combat something that is socioeconomicist, that is racist by default, it does give you a little bit of a platform to be able to say, you guys, it's not only the downstream implications of what we're trying to do in the state that affect the country with the redistricting. It's actually what you're creating is a circumstance where the elected officials are choosing their voters instead of the voters choosing their elected officials.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (42:27)

That's what Democrats do.

Sophia Karstens (42:28)

Correct.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (42:29)

But they do it damn smart. But that gets us to. By the way, did you just pull up with your. With your Volkswagen bus with your surfboard on top? I mean, you're in the imperial capital and you're in you, and you look like I just came off a Newport Beach.

Sophia Karstens (42:46)

It's raining out, so I actually feel like I look more like a drowned rat than anything.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (42:50)

I walked.

Sophia Karstens (42:51)

You're in the rain.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (42:51)

Hang of a second. We got one more block when we get back to this. And because I hear you, but the Democrats are the best in the world at playing that. And in California, they took a state that gave you Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon, and they turned it into, you know, after Duke, Duke Mason, and they turned it into a state that is the railhead of the progressive left. It's where the money comes from. It's where their ideas come from. It's one of the reasons Newsom's not going to run on his record. He's going to. He's going to. He's recreating himself right now. And what he's doing is going to show Democrats I can take on Trump. And the way I'm going to do it is when this redistricting. Short break. Back in the warm in a moment.

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Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (44:56)

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Sophia Karstens (44:58)

Can't actually redistrict without changing the 10 year rule around the census. And you can't do that without amending the California Constitution, which is very robust on this issue. And you can't do that without repealing the equal protections clause, which you cannot do. All due respect, the argument is that we want to preserve democracy. You cannot preserve democracy by suspending it.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (45:19)

Okay, Steve, the great Steve Hilton, who is running for the governor as a populace. I love the fact he's running as governor with an English accent. It's only in California, baby. And he's a great guy. He filed the suit. Walk me through that clip right there because you were bang, bang, bang. Here's why you can't do it. Here's why it's illegal. And it's against the constitutions. Against this. They're steamrolling that.

Sophia Karstens (45:44)

Yes.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (45:44)

Right now. So walk me through this.

Sophia Karstens (45:46)

So everybody's making me feel better. Make you feel better. I know everybody is focused right now on the 10 year rule and the census, which. Okay, that's fine. But it is very, I mean, the.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (45:56)

10 year rule in the census.

Sophia Karstens (45:57)

So there is a rule that suggests that you are not allowed to redistrict outside of the year that the census is given. And the reason for that is the obvious, easy and obvious. We got to know where the people are. And especially after something like the fires. We, you know, that that's just not relevant. What the polling that we did five years ago is just not relevant in terms of the census and where the people are. So there's a reason that rule exists. And the California Constitution is very robust on this issue. Another reason why it's not analogous to Texas. The Texas Constitution is not as robust on this issue, but the California Constitution is. And so people are focused on that. But of course, in true fashion, these extremists are just like, well, we'll just amend the California Constitution, which they probably would get the votes for, because people really don't understand the nuance of what's happening.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (46:45)

But not between now and November.

Sophia Karstens (46:46)

Well, they're trying, but the reality is they can't do that without repealing the equal protections clause. And that's the checkmate. They can't do that.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (46:59)

And that's the lawsuit.

Sophia Karstens (47:00)

And that's the lawsuit.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (47:02)

Okay. What? It's not. Listen, the governor's race is obviously very important, but this on the event horizon, you gotta focus. Cause the train, I mean, we're.

Sophia Karstens (47:13)

Yeah, the train. You're right.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (47:14)

You're six weeks. Seven. We're seven weeks away from decision day.

Sophia Karstens (47:18)

Yeah. It will be rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic if we don't win this. You're right.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (47:22)

So tell me you have. McCarthy's raising a ton of money. Schwarzenegger's doing his thing. It seems like it's very. People are saying we don't want Trump. Although Trump is not just the leader of our movement. They have millions of people in California that are Trump. Trump supporters, 6.1 to be president and president. Trump keeps saying, if you got a chance to spend more time there and you had not election fraud, we could win it. As you see it right now on the map, on the battlefield of getting to just this November, not the governor's race. How do you bring these parties together? And they haven't agreed upon a message yet. Some want to go with Trump, some don't want to go with Trump. Schwarzenegger definitely wants to keep him out. Of course, I think he's a spent force. But just as you see today running a pack. Where are we?

Sophia Karstens (48:13)

That's an excellent question. The optics are problematic because as we know, the left and the extremists are very good at context creation and splitting the vote by creating optics that make us all look like Occupy Wall street, where, like, nobody has one cohesive message. The other problem is that we have a jungle primary in California. So it makes it very Difficult. But you're right.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (48:39)

Really, the most jungle primary in the selection coming up in November.

Sophia Karstens (48:43)

Not in November. Right.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (48:44)

It's a, it's a yay or nay. Okay, here's what you, you, your pack says. You're going to do some polling regarding where we stand between now and November.

Sophia Karstens (48:52)

So the next.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (48:53)

We'll get that, we'll get you back on. Because right now I'm going to put the five seats in the window.

Sophia Karstens (48:58)

You're like. And a check for the Democrats because.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (49:00)

No, it's not.

Sophia Karstens (49:01)

I know it's not.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (49:02)

Listen, listen. Newsom and these guys. Newsom's running for president states off of this. He's a guy that. And I kept saying, he's a guy that we, that we impeached. And it said, but if you put up, you know, some of the clowns you're going to put up in running against him, you're going to. So we had this huge movement. People worked their tails off, put a lot of money up. It was magnificent to actually have a recall. Right. And then they lost it on the alternative, which you should have just left it open. And you know What? He won 65, 35. This is a tough hombre. He's bet his model for California is a disaster.

Sophia Karstens (49:39)

It's a disaster.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (49:40)

As your polling shows. You know what he's saying to that? You're right, your polling's right. So we're not going to talk about that anymore. Right, Right. I'm going to redistrict, become the champions of the Democrats for taking on Trump. I'm the only person who's taken on Trump and win. And he's going to use that to springboard himself to the head of the Democratic primary and he's going to recreate a bunch of crazy policies that the Democrats are recreating.

Sophia Karstens (50:02)

They'll duplicate the efforts all across.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (50:03)

So that's why California is the battlefield right now. It's the beta testing and yes. And we got to win this. And now I see a lot of money potentially being raised. But you got the kind of the corporatists with McCarthy, you've got the Never Trump guys with Schwarzenegger. They're trying to keep Trump out. And hey, we are burning daylight on this thing. And it's a super high priority. Not just five seats because, you know, you net those five out, we've probably got overall 15 seats with another five in Florida. Fifteen gross. On the gross amount, maybe 16 or 17. You net those five out, it's 12. And we're gonna have a fight to hold the house. Where do people go to learn more about you, more about your pack, your social media, all of it.

Sophia Karstens (50:47)

I am on Instagram, Sophia jcarstens and I am on my. My website for my super PAC, which is DeckAmerica.com.

Stephen K. Bannon (Host) (50:57)

Did you get any feedback when you did that? We only got about 60 seconds. Did you get any feedback? Is Mike up? Oh, we'll get to you later. A feedback when you gave that great C span picked up in the. When you were reading people the riot act about that. You got a good feedback about that. That's what led the. To the lawsuit.

Sophia Karstens (51:14)

Yeah. In fact, that was on the heels of the extremists trying to hijack an assembly hearing in real time and cutting the mic of the vice chair and everything else. And they that. That moved the needle.

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