B (2:49)

He wasn't going to quit. I mean, you see that today, today at was the university, Utah Valley University, out right outside south of Salt Lake City. Yeah, Charlie Kirk, it was about 2 o', clock, it was in your show. So it was like 2:15 Eastern Daylight Time. So I guess it was 12:15 when he would normally have the shooter Mountain time, massive crowd. I want to make sure everybody understands that the individuals in that tweet, the older guy looks like it is not the shooter. The shooter has not been apprehended.

C (3:20)

We do not. President Trump has just announced that all flags to be lowered half mast until Sunday evening at 6pm in honor of Charlie Kirk. And yes, Steve, to your point, the shooter who or the person who was originally suspected of being the shooter that was making the rounds online, some reporting now that that's not the shooter. Obviously I'm in touch with, look, everybody knows I'm close to this one. We're all close to this one. We're in touch with everyone we're in touch with. As of right now, what we're being told is that that's not the guy.

B (3:57)

I want to say also, you can see from the video and the shot, Charlie was in very bad shape from the beginning. And I want to give a shout out to the people around him that did the emergency crew, I think he was airlifted, they worked non stop on this.

C (4:10)

Look, they gave him the immediate care. But that kind of hit is something. And everybody I know in the military, Special Forces guys, started calling me up, they said, I've seen guys take hits like that on the battlefield. And when you have an exit wound like that, it is a very, very hard wound to try to save someone's life just because of the quickness, because of the pressure, the oxygen to the brain. This is something where it's something where it just absolutely breaks your heart because when you're there, you know what's happening and there's nothing you can do about it.

B (4:45)

No, by the way, it is a battlefield. I mean, Charlie Kirk was a warrior. Charlie Kirk wasn't gonna back down after the Butler assassination attempt last summer. You, you warned him, other people warned him that, hey, Charlie, you're. You're the most exposed person in anybody in this movement. Because Charlie would, it looked like a couple of times a week, go into these crowds and look at that crowd today at, at Utah Valley University. It had to be a couple thousand people, four or five thousand people.

C (5:11)

No, no, no, no, no, no. He knew. He always knew and he knew and he, and he would say, I need to do it anyway. Because it has to be done. And if I don't do it, who else will? Because he had a drive, he had a spirit. He was a builder, he was a father, a husband. And he had this unlike, unlike no one I've ever met, maybe outside of this room, where he just. He just would never stop. And, and you could be. It could be two in the morning. I could send Charlie a text. He text me right back, 102 in the morning, three in the morning.

B (5:42)

Only time, the only time he would take Saturday off for the, for the family.

C (5:45)

Except for Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. If you need me, go to Erica. And that was the time he said, that's my time. I want to be with God. I want to pray, I want to unplug. But. But my point is, is that he, this guy would never stop working. 24 7, operation 246 and keep going. The movement that Charlie Kirk started will never end. The movement of, of the youth, the movement to save this country, the movement to ignite a fire for freedom and liberty across this republic. And by the way, the way that he always spoke so forcefully for Christ Jesus that whenever chance, he had to give his testimony for what he believed in and who he believed in and to lift up God's name, Charlie was always the first one to do so.

B (6:40)

So I know, obviously people are shocked today. When we left you a couple hours ago, what did I do? What I always do at the end of the. The show in the morning is toss to Charlie Kirk for two hours of populist nationalism, followed by Jack Posovic, Steve Gruber, Eric Bolling, then back to the war room. It just shows you, hey, every minute's precious for people, particularly for people in this movement and people. The tip of the spear. I realize everybody's rattled by this. Charlie Kirk being assassinated, shot down in cold blood for the entire world to see. The shooter is not apprehended yet. Yes, there's going to be prayers and mourning and half staff in nurturing the widow in a ceremony, but we have to have steely resolve, right? Charlie Kirk's a casualty of war. We're in this country. We are. And the mocking that you had on MSNBC today was completely and totally inappropriate by Matthew Dowd. And the owners of MSNBC ought to know he ought to be removed immediately and never come back on that channel. His comments earlier today when we first heard that Charlie was shot, right, And Katie Tur was trying to do her best job, right, given the circumstances. But you have a guest like on there. We need Steely Resolve. Charlie Kirk is a casualty of the political war going on in this country. He was gunned down in cold blood. Gunned down in cold blood. And you have to have steely resolve about this.

C (8:07)

Charlie Kirk never. What did he do? He would say, if you disagree, come to the front of the line because you want to have a conversation. Charlie Kirk never raised a hand in anger. Never once he said, come out here. He would say he was a man.

B (8:19)

He was a happy warrior.

C (8:20)

He's a happy war every single time.

B (8:22)

He never saw. I never saw him.

C (8:23)

You had conviction, right? You know, he had conviction. He was tough as nails, but. But he never once did. Did so. And he never once came off a stage. You go find hundreds of hours of video, he never did it. Never once. No matter how crazy, no matter how nuts, whatever he was being faced with, he would always sit there and he would hold his ground and hold frame and do so with the peace of Christ. That was the. He had a gift from God. He had an absolute gift from God. And for, you know, these, these are the reasons that, that we'll never be able to really get the answers of. But God called him home today.

B (8:58)

Well, it's, it's, you know, it's your fate and your destiny, right?

C (9:03)

Yes.

B (9:03)

Charlie Kirk and Charlie Kirk knew what he was getting into and doing this, right. Charlie Kirk was at the tip of the spear. Never flinched, never backed off. You never heard any whining from Charlie Kirk. I mean, we would have texts and it was a lot of stuff. You know, we didn't always totally agree on the text message change with Charlie Kirk all hours of the night. Always trying to learn. Yeah, right. Always trying to move the ball forward, but always doing it with a, in a very up, upbeat spirit, right? In a, in a, in a way that was. He's a glass half full guy, right. And the organization he built. That's why I attracted so many college kids. That's it. And it started with college kids, but it built all over the, the, the events themselves now his. And two big events, one in the summer and of course the event in over, right before Christmas in Phoenix, are the most important events of the calendar for the conservative movement. It's a who's who comes on the stage, including President Trump came on last December. And on that stage for the first time, President Trump told that audience, because of what Charlie Kirk brings and the intensity he brings. President Trump told us why he ran for office because he knew the 2020 election was stolen. And he says, I had, I had to. I Had I had to come back and make sure that we didn't let. If we let that go, we weren't going to have a republic. And that's the power of what Charlie Kirk built. Charlie Kirk was a warrior to the end. If you see his last. His last moments of maybe consciousness before he was shot, what did he have? He picked up a mic to respond.

C (10:35)

He died fighting. This is a man who died fighting. Charlie Kirk died fighting. Not for himself. Charlie Kirk died fighting for you. Charlie Kirk died fighting for Jesus. Charlie Kirk died fighting for this country. And he did so knowing. Knowing full well that he wasn't just staring down at a microphone or some liberals. He knew about Butler. He knew everything about it. I've talked to him about it a million times. He knew, and by the way, just.

B (11:03)

About the security, too, because he says, hey, I can't get too much security because it cuts me off from the young people. It cuts me off from the crowd. Charlie was a people person. That's why today we saw that tent. People. People are right there in front of him, right? And they're in the line and they're tossing back and forth. And Charlie's giving as good as he gets. He was answering. He picked up the microphone to answer a. To respond to something he didn't agree with. Right? That. That The. The individual.

C (11:28)

If you disagree, you come to the front. If you disagree, come to front. He always. Every time I did an event with him, he'd always say, disagree, you come to the front. We did. We did Penn State last year. We did. By the way, just because I haven't said it yet to Charlie's mom and dad, his mother and father, that obviously our prayers are absolutely with you, the entire Kirk family. And we need to get to the bottom of this right now.

B (11:54)

Need to get a bottom of it. But he went out as a hero. Would you say the hero America needs right now?

C (12:00)

When God. When America needed a hero, God sent.

B (12:02)

Us Charlie Kirk as a fighter.

C (12:04)

When America needed a hero, God sent us Charlie Kirk. He sent us Donald Trump. Some. Some say that we're not sure who sent us Steve Bannon.

B (12:11)

But.

C (12:11)

But we got. We got a Bannon.

B (12:13)

I am not. I'm not in that league. But I'll tell you, the Trump, they came for him twice. You saw it in Butler when they tried to gun him down in cold blood. In Butler, assassination attempt. Another one later.

C (12:24)

Look, look.

B (12:24)

And Charlie Kirk. I don't want to hear Charlie Kirk is dead. I don't want to hear that Charlie Kirk died today. Charlie Kirk was assassinated. An assassin's bullet to cut him down.

C (12:34)

A single shot.

B (12:36)

Single shot at 31 years old. Yeah. At 200 yards. What we're hearing. So it was not a. It was not a. It was not a rookie. Right. It was. Somebody knew how to use a weapon. Charlie Kirk was cut down by an assassin's bullet right in the prime of his life. In the prime of his life.

C (12:51)

Top of his game.

B (12:53)

Just when he got going. I was on. Go ahead.

C (12:57)

I just want to say. I mean, beyond all that, he's our friend. This is one of our friends. And when you come for one of our friends, that's it. That's it. Gloves are off. Gloves. Are you. You thought. You thought that before was. Was bad that we went hard. You. You just took away one of our friends. And that's something that requires.

B (13:20)

But people have said people have to expect this. Look at. Look at Luigi.

C (13:27)

You get maga or you get. Or get Mangione.

B (13:30)

That's my point.

C (13:30)

And Mangioni. The Mangiones are now taking out the maggots.

B (13:34)

And Maggione and Magione is considered a hero by those guys. I tell folks all the time, you got Mangione and you got Ma' am Donnie, who's a.

C (13:43)

It's the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.

B (13:44)

Yeah, exactly. So you. You see what they're doing. And Luigi and Man Joni is treated as a cult hero by these people.

C (13:52)

Tell me again, tell me again about. Oh, Posobic and Ban and the rhetoric. Oh, the rhetoric. You're so upset. Oh, because I use word. Unhumans. Yeah. What word would you ascribe to an act like this? It's unhuman. Okay? That's what we're living through. You think I want to do this with my time? You think I got kids? You think I want to be here? This is what you have done to our country.

B (14:15)

Exactly.

C (14:16)

And what comes next is on you, too.

B (14:18)

And we're not going to back off an inch. Anybody think. If you're going to back off, then this is not for you. Charlie Kirk gave his life for a country. He's on the battlefield of political combat, okay? And they cut him down with an assassin's bullet. Let's be blunt about this. They cut him down with an assassin's bullet. I guess we're going to take a break here. We're going to take a short commercial break. We've got John Solomon, a couple of three other people are going to join us. Hopefully the great Matt Boyle, Jack Posobic. One of Charlie's best friends and best partners is with us and we're going to take a short break and return in a moment. You're in the war room. This July there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. The bloc of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Persia are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio Reset. As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollar in your savings. While this transition won't not happen overnight, but trust me, it's going to start in Rio. The Rio Reset in July marks a pivotal moment when brics objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality. Learn if diversifying your savings into gold is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard earned savings into a tax sheltered IRA and precious metals claim. Your free info kit on gold by texting my name Bannon. That's B A N N o N to 989-898 with an A rating with the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers. Let Birchgold army with a free no obligation info kit on owning gold before July and the Rio reset. Text Bannon. B A N N O N to 989-898. Do it today. That's the Rio reset. Text Bannon at 989-898 and do it today.

C (16:27)

That man did what he did.

B (16:28)

We don't know how to deal with.

C (16:30)

People who were hurting in the way.

B (16:32)

This man was hurting. Hurt people.

C (16:33)

Hurt people.

B (16:34)

What happened was horrible. No one mentioned the word race, white, black or anything except him. Okay, that was Van Jones. What do you say about this Van Jones situation?

C (16:45)

Really? Van Jones? Really? And all, all of them, all people out there, they want to blame. They want to blame Charlie Kirk. They won't blame Charlie Kirk who never hurt anybody in his life. Charlie Kirk who always stood up for truth. And he did so with his voice. He didn't do so with his hands. He didn't do so in violence. He didn't do any of this.

B (17:07)

And most Charlie, talking about a woman being stabbed to death.

C (17:13)

Where's your energy for that? Van Jones? What you think, you think people are worried about when they go on a subway late at night? That they're worried about being surrounded by Charlie Kirks? They're looking over their shoulder for Charlie Kirk? No, I don't think so, Van Jones. I don't think so at all. So now My wife has got to go reach out to Erica because as close as they are. And now you got to, now we have to deal with this. But no, it's all Charlie Kirk's fault, right? Van Jones. It's all Charlie Kirk's fault. And all the rest of what was MSNBC said, oh, Charlie Kirk, you know, he, he ginned up the rhetoric and he, he did, he did all this. Shooter still at large, by the way. As far as we know. There's a manhunt, they're saying, and we've been in contact with FBI and all the rest. So, so it's all, it's all, it's all, it's all this, right? Or what did they say? It was a, it was, you know, it was maybe a guy, a MAGA guy who was getting up. Come here. Break. We know where the violence is coming from, from Butler to West Palm and now to Salt Lake City, Utah. No, no, this is the mangiones. This is the unhumans. This is the sick, pervasive violence that's gone on by the blood in the streets and the blood of Charlie Kirk now, just like the blood of Trump a year ago, less than a year.

B (18:22)

Ago, Charlie, just over a year ago, Charlie Kirk was not killed. Today, Charlie Kirk assassinated, Assassinated in cold blood.

C (18:28)

And you're going to, and they're going to sit there and say, the nation, they're going to sit there and say, oh, well, it's the war room. It's the Charlie Kirk show. Talking about COVID talking about, no, steal yourself, folks.

B (18:40)

Steal yourself. Now's the time. This is a moment. We need to show strength. Okay. Need to show strength. Matt Boyle, talking about the strong Matt Boyle, your thoughts. You've covered Charlie from the very beginning. I happened to sit in, I think, one of Charlie Kirk's first pitches when he started Turning Point with a couple of people very closely associated with Breitbart. And let's say he went up a steep learning curve. That's the kind of guy he was. Your thoughts, Matt?

D (19:07)

Yeah, by the way, before he even started Turning Point, he was working for Breitbart way back in the day, as far back as when he was in high school, as far back as 2012, back when I was first starting at Breitbart. So I remember we actually just published this a few minutes. There's an email he sent us back when he was a high school student in 2012. And when he reached out to Breitbart, like a cold reach out to want to join the cause. So. And he was inspired by Andrew Breitbart. He always talked about that. I've known him very closely. Look this. You're 100% right. I was just watching your segment there with Jack. This was a political assassination. This was like an assassination of Martin Luther King or JFK or something like that. This needs to be a wake up call and a clarion call.

B (19:58)

A clarion call, but particularly for this generation. One of our younger producers, because we have. They're very young here at the War Room, he told me, he says this assassination will be a formational event for my generation, right? The generation under 30, under 35 years old. This is your moment. Charlie Kirk represented you. Charlie Kirk built a. He came in with a crazy idea. I want to take over student governments. This is when he first came to Breitbart. I want to take over student governments in college and then in high schools, right? And what you have now is a political powerhouse, a grassroots, not just grassroots powerhouse as far as delivering Matt Boyle, but also thought leaders. Remember, he had the pastors, he would have thinkers. He had so many different aspects of Turning Point. He's built a massive machine. Do his personality enforce a will, right? And for that generation under 35. And remember, Charlie Kirk gave his life for you. Where was he? On a college campus. What was he doing? What Charlie Kirk does every day, debating, right, Using ideas, coming back. And he picked up the microphone. His last act on earth, right, was picking up a microphone to rebut something that he heard from one of the people. As Jack says, if you don't agree with me, come to the front of the line. That's the kind of people he took. Matt Boyle.

D (21:19)

Yeah. This is a really emotional moment for a lot of those young people, including myself, right? I'm a little older than Charlie, but the. But the fact is, you know, I think everybody's going to look back on this moment and remember where you were, right? Like, remember where you were when JFK was killed. You're going to remember where you were when. When Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And the fact is that I think that his mission is now all of our mission, right? We can't let him die in vain. We have to carry on his mission. And then the other thing is, is that the radical left, frankly, there is no differentiation anymore between the radical left and the Democrat party. The Democrat Party is rotten from top to bottom. They've been corrupted by the radical left. They've been taken over. They've been subsumed. Maybe one day we'll get to a place where we have two parties, again, that are reasonable, but we don't have a reasonable Democrat party anymore. Democrats are not reasonable.

B (22:15)

Right.

D (22:15)

Like, the fact is, is that they have created this culture that you heard the establishment media people out there, like Van Jones and like the MSNBC crowd. I don't know if you saw this, but in the immediate aftermath of it, you saw people on MSNBC suggesting, oh, it might have just been Charlie Kirk supporters just shooting their guns off.

B (22:35)

And, you know, no, that was Matt Dowd. That was Matt Dowd. And Matt. Matt Dowd is. Remember, folks, embrace this. Embrace this, folks. Matt Dowd is not a leftist. Matt Dowd, let's get that up. Matt Dowd was a Bush Republican. And today, what he said. Today, what he said on MSNBC is unforgivable. Of what he said when Charlie Kirk's life held in, was hanging in the balance. When they were. When they medevaced him out, they helicoptered him out, and the doctors and nurses are sitting there trying to save his life. This is what Matt Dowd. This is the kind of thing Matt Dowd said, right? So it's unforgivable. But you're exactly correct. This was a political assassination. And it's a political assassination trying to target the young people in this country because they understand that the power of maga, the power of our movement is not a bunch of boomers. The power of our movement is coming from the young, and that's where the energy is. And they understand this changes American politics and saves our country. This is what Trump came back for. This is where he returned for. He returned and I saved the country and make it great again. Go ahead, sir.

D (23:43)

Yeah, And I think that this is not good. They're not going to succeed. Right? Like, I think that what's going to happen is because I'm telling you, I'm getting the messages right now from people across this movement.

B (23:54)

People not going to see. The future is undetermined. Matt, today at 11:59am Eastern Daylight Time, I tossed it to Charlie Kirk to do the show, like, every day. Two hours of populist nationalism coming in hot with Charlie Kirk. The future is unformed. We have to form it. It's not. We will win if we don't flinch. We will win if we don't sit there and start sucking our thumbs and get in the fetal position. Okay? Charlie Kirk was assassinated today. Go ahead. Go ahead, brother. Yeah.

D (24:27)

Where I'm going with that point, Steve, is that I think that the emotional, the raw emotion of this, right? Like, I mean, look, I'll be honest with you, I'm not really an emot guy, but this has hit me pretty hard. I knew Charlie very well. It's hit me very hard in the last couple hours here since I've been processing the news, I've been trying to get the details of what happened, but I mean, this is just terrible. And I'll tell you, this gives me more fight. It gives everyone else across the. Right, everyone I'm talking to is newly inspired by Charlie's mission.

B (25:01)

Right.

D (25:01)

Like, and I think that we have to not let him die in vain. We carry his mission on. Everything he stood for, he stood for what Breitbart believes in, what the war and posse believes in. I mean, this is a, a guy who, who, who built his entire career. I mean, he's 31 years old. He's always younger than, you know, any of us. But like, I mean, I, like, again, his entire life and career was built in this movement, this America first mega movement. You know, I, I, I, I'm going, I've been going back through in the last hour or so here, some old interviews I did with him where he's talking about things like immigration and he's talking about things like standing up to China and on trade and building out a political movement and voter fraud and all this kind of stuff. I think that it's even bigger than just young people. I mean, Charlie Kirk and everything that he stands for is going to.

C (25:55)

I.

D (25:55)

Don'T think that the mission of whoever conducted this assassination, and we don't have all those details yet, but clearly they were trying to silence him while he's debating. Right? Like, I don't think they'll succeed. I think his message is gonna become even more profound now after this. Again, this feels a lot like a JFK or an MLK type moment, right? Like in our country. And we're all gonna remember where we were the day Charlie Kirk was assassinated and when we heard the news and how we heard the news news.

B (26:31)

Matt Boyle, where do people go on social media to get you? I know you guys are putting up stuff with Charlie. A great reminder that Charlie first came to Breitbart when he had the idea and people associated with Breitbart getting back of him and put the seeds in that came up with the turning point that was one of the critical, if not the critical, element to winning the 2024 election. Where do people go, Matt, today to get to your social media and to get all the great news over at Breitbart?

D (27:01)

Well, first off, Breitbart.com, our team is working around the clock and then also my Twitter account is at mboyle1 and my true social is ealmattboyle. But yeah, our team is working very hard and we're trying to get all the details and the facts and then we're going to see where this goes. But I'm telling you the emotion here is raw and I think that, that a match has been lit in America and I think that the American, right, especially young people, are not going to take this.

B (27:28)

Not going to take it. The last day I talked to Charlie on the Sunday before I went to prison, on, on Monday, on July 1st and Charlie said, how are you going to do. Because we lead into the show, how are you going to do the show? You know, who's going to be the, who's going to be the host? I said, charlie, next man up, right? Is that not the message for Charlie's generation? Next man or woman up. Matt Boyle, thank you so much. Appreciate you coming on. Jack Posobiek's riding shotgun with me in this hour. Want to thank Real America's voice, everybody for their coverage today. Real America's voice because of the closeness obviously with Charlie Kirk broke the news. I think it was on the Eric Bolling Show, John Solomon, etc. We're going to try to get John Solomon up. We need to get the, we need to find the assassin. We need to get to the bottom of this. We also have to make sure that the best way to remember Charlie Kirk is to carry on his work at the level. Charlie Kirkwood. Short break. Hey, I realize you got many choices when it comes to who you choose for your cell phone service and there are new ones popping up all the time. But here's the truth. There's only one that boldly stands in the gap for every American that believes that freedom is worth fighting for. And that's the team at Patriot Mobile. For more than 12 years, Patriot Mobile has been on the front lines of fighting for our God given rights and freedoms while also providing exceptional nationwide cell phone service with access to all three of the main networks. Don't just take my word for it, ask the hundreds of thousands of Americans who've made the switch are now supporting causes they believe in. Simply by joining Patriot Mobile, switching is easier than ever. Activate in minutes from the comfort of your own home. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Patriot Mobile's all US based support team is standing by to take care of you. Call 978 Patriot today or go to patriotmobile.com Bannon that's patriotmobile.com Bannon use the promo code Bannon for a free month of service. That's patriotmobile.com Bannon or call 972 Patriot and make the switch today.

C (29:36)

Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

B (29:42)

Charlie Kirk on one level is totally irreplaceable, is it not? Jack Posovic?

C (29:47)

Look, Charlie Kirk is one on one and Charlie Kirk, there's, there's never going to be another Charlie Kirk. But you know what else is going to happen? There is never going to be another assassin to take out someone like the way they did because of what comes next. Because what comes next will be swift, will be quick, and it will be retribution. And that's it.

B (30:19)

Next man up. As far as everybody you know, Charlie's organization, all of it right now, particularly this younger generation that Charlie was one of the top one or two leaders of, they're going to test your mettle and they're going to test it right now. John Solomon joins us. John, you work in, your contacts with FBI, etc. Were incredibly helpful to finding out early exactly what was going on. Give us your assessment and what do we know about the shooter?

E (30:44)

Yeah, we don't know much because he's not in custody as of yet. It looks like a professional hit job from quite a ways away. Long shot, probably high powered rifle, able to pierce the arteries in the neck. So someone who's professional. It appears that's what the FBI's early assessment is. We're a long way from knowing a lot.

B (31:05)

Holy.

E (31:06)

It's a moment of wrecking in our country.

B (31:09)

You're using a term. You've used it twice now. You're saying this. I mean, it was a long distance and the shot hit one of the most, you know, susceptible places as a kill shot. You're saying you use the word professional. What do you mean by that?

E (31:25)

Someone who knew how to handle a gun. It wasn't someone that just got a spur of the moment idea and was going to go shoot Charlie. Looks like it's from a longer distance, maybe from a building or window away. We're still learning stuff in the fog of war. Takes some time, so we're gonna have to sort this out. But the early assessment of law enforcement officials I talked to is that this looked like somebody who knew how to kill and knew how to handle a gun and knew how to set up in a way that they could assassinate someone and then possibly get away, which is what they initially have done. They don't have Anyone in custody yet. So a lot to be learned. A lot to be learned. We're gonna learn. This story will turn.

C (32:02)

John, in your discussions with law enforcement, we've seen some reports out there regarding range. Now, obviously, it's, obviously it's still early, early on that, but have you been able to confirm any of the current assessments on how far they think the shooter was?

E (32:18)

They don't believe the shooter was in the crowd. The angle of shot suggested it was probably an elevated location, which would have to be a little bit further off, much like what we saw with President Trump's attempted assassination in Butler, where someone gets on a roof or in a window. But they really don't. I don't. As of 40 minutes ago, they had not located the shooting scene yet. So perhaps this person cleaned their brass up, or they don't have the right location yet, but it seems to be an elevated shot from a distance. How far a distance? Hard to say, because they don't have the shooting location. They don't have the origination of the crime scene.

B (32:55)

The fact that, the fact that it was at a distance, it appears that was close to being perfectly placed and that they have not found him. So this is someone who had thought through how to exit. It leads you to believe it's just not some random, at the last minute emotional like some of these school shootings we've seen or some of these other shootings we're seeing, that it is something. It looks like somebody that really knew their way around weapons and the way around getting a shot off and getting away. John Solomon.

E (33:30)

I think that's the early assessment. Early assessments change, but there is some belief that this was intentional and thought out perhaps a little bit. Now, on a college campus, in the chaos, it's easy to escape, even if you're not a professional. So let's wait and see what they come up with. But some of the earliest assessments of the shot, the way where it landed, where it came from, suggests that there's some intentionality and maybe some marksman expertise in this. Let's wait and see what it looks like. And I was with Charlie just two weeks ago in Colorado, and, you know, he talked about, you know, gets all threats all the time, and it doesn't deter him. He didn't, didn't take these threats seriously. He said something profound to me, and that is, I said to him, you know, I look at these Gen Z numbers and you've had a generational change on America. And he said to me, oh, you're being so dramatic, John. Listen, it's not that simple, not that complex. What I did is we talk about all people needed, all young people needed was a little moral support. People willing to stand shoulder to shoulder and say it's okay to be conservative, to believe in freedom, believe in the goodness of America, believe in life, believe in God and not be bullied by teachers or friends. In such extraordinary fashion he could summarize how simple and yet how extraordinary, extraordinary the mission he set out to. And I went to one of his first conferences. He invited me down when he was like 20, I think it was in Florida, in Palm beach. There's like 200 kids in the audience. And now you look. And every year Charlie's organization is reaching tens of thousands of people. And he never saw it as anything more than a simple job of just giving people moral support. I found that remarkably refreshing when I, when I talked to him two weeks ago.

B (35:06)

Johnny, go follow us at 6:00'. Clock. What is your social media? Because you break a lot of news up there.

E (35:10)

Sir, yes, sir. Jay Solomon reports on all platforms and of course, just the news.com is the news website.

B (35:17)

Thank you. Appreciate you. John Solomon. So big, you probably spent more time on the road with Charlie, more time working on things. The two shows backed up, but you guys were in constant communication, plotting, strategizing, executing your, your thoughts on. Tell us, tell us who Charlie Kirk was.

C (35:37)

Charlie was always thinking. Charlie was always. He was a. He was more of a chess player than people realize because he could see angles and he could think three moves ahead, four moves ahead.

B (35:50)

Knew how to take a bank shot.

C (35:52)

Knew how to take that bank shot. Boom, boom, boom, triple rail bank shot. And he was going to make it. If something was in his way, he was either going to take it down or he was going to get around it because he would see these things coming. And there's so, just so many stories behind the scenes that people don't even know people, things that Charlie has never talked about publicly once, things that he's been involved in, conversations, decisions, plans that beyond Turning Point. Right? The amount of lives that he touched, even beyond politics, the amount of stuff that he did just, just as a good person for people is unlistable. It's innumerable. And the fact that they would take something, someone like that away, the fact that they would take someone like that away from this world.

B (36:43)

What do you mean from that? There's, from their perspective, Charlie Kirk was one of the top two or three people in the entire Maga movement. Right? These people are vicious. They're Playing for keeps, of course, Charlie Kirk. That's, that's why when you gave him the warning that Charlie was a target is because how many go back to American history? How many individuals in their twenties, because the formation of this generation started, you know, years ago with Charlie Kirk. How many people have had, have done to a generation when they're in that generation? As far as leadership go, no one really comes to mind right now except for Charlie Kirk.

C (37:21)

Well, I would, I would just say, you know, when you think of, you know, coming from Philadelphia, that you look at the age of a lot of the founders in the founding generation.

B (37:31)

Exactly.

C (37:32)

And you see guys in their 20s and 30s, and it was young men. That was a Charlie Kirk who stepped the age of Jefferson when he writes the Declaration, when he, when. And we're coming up on the 250th in just a couple of months here. And you look at that age and there's something about that age where you're, where you're, where you're just hitting your stride, you're in your prime, you're on the top of the world, you've got all, you've got your health. He was so healthy, Steve. He, Charlie Kirk was a biohacking, loved maha health nut, cold plunge every day kind of guy. I mean, half the time, you know, he didn't drink caffeine. That, that Starbucks cup that was, that's tea. That's not coffee. Didn't drink caffeine. He's been off a cat. He was off of caffeine for a year, I think. And just, you know, he really focused on what goes into his body and really focused on, on health and nutrition. And was, was always talking about that funny behind the scenes, you know, we would talk about that just as much as we would talk about politics or, you know, you know, argue theology and, you know, debate back and forth, all of these various things. And I mean, they took my friend away. You. You took my friend away.

B (38:42)

What is it?

C (38:43)

And let me just go ahead. I was at the Museum of the Bible earlier this week with President Trump and President Trump, he got there and he said, America needs to pray again and America has to have the prayer initiative. But he also talked about this horrific situation with the young Ukrainian girl down in Charlotte. And he said something, he said, sometimes you have to do horrible things to stop horrible things. And we are now living through the era of horrible things.

B (39:15)

The September of 2025 change things. What's happened in this month alone, does it send things in a different direction?

C (39:24)

Last night, I Tweeted out that the Overton Window has been stabbed to death. The Overton Window just got assassinated. The Overton Window is gone. It is completely gone. There is a gaping hole with blood gushing out of it now where the Overton Window used to be. I'm done. I'm done playing these games. I'm done playing games. No more games.

B (39:49)

The 60 people would argue, and people do argue, that the end of American greatness came with the assassination of President Kennedy. And then you had the 60s with Martin Luther King. King, you had Bobby Kennedy, Malcolm X. They then eventually father, they got to, they got to George Wallace. They had. We had a string of political assassins.

C (40:11)

Maryland, right?

B (40:12)

In Maryland. They. He did not die. He was felled by an assassin's bullet. Didn't die a couple times they came after Jerry Ford at close range.

C (40:19)

Yeah. Reagan down here at the Hilton.

B (40:21)

President Reagan got shot at close range and came so close to death. Is this an inflection point for the country when somebody as prominent as Charlie Kirk, particularly in this movement and one of the driving forces in this movement as far as not just an activist, but an intellectual, a leader and somebody that's done something to a generation that you have not really seen in American history, really change the politics of a generation. Right. When president. We talk about President Trump passing the baton back, not just to who will follow him, but to generations, two or three generations, four generations in back of him. You get the Charlie Kirks. Is this an inflection point not just in our movement but in the country's history.

C (41:05)

And the country's history will never be the same. Now the country, we were on one path, now we're on another. The legacy of Charlie Kirk now will forever, forever be tied together with this violence, will be tied together with the violence and the carnage of this period. And there is no way that you can talk about this period ever without having to talk about the violent radical Marxist left that has been conducting killings in the street, killings on college campuses, attempted killings in field in Butler. There is no way that you can put this back now. And the response, you see, Steve, it is a law of the universe. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. And no, I don't mean picking up arms, but what I mean is justice. I mean do justice must be done and will be done. We have been talking about left wing killers. We have been talking about these political assassins for years. And know what? Chris Wray and all these people, and you want to talk about the trans shooter shooting up a bunch of kids down at a, at a Catholic school. It's done. It's absolutely done. There's no more games.

B (42:23)

That was the, that was the question that Charlie Kirk perked the microphone up. They're right in the middle of the, I think they were questioning the numbers of this transgender shooters and Charlie Kirk was engaged in, in the debate on that. Okay, we're taking a short commercial break. Jack Posopic riding shotgun Johnson. Solomon's going to follow. We'll have probably later tonight or tomorrow morning some notifications of what we're going to be doing over the next couple of days. Obviously, Charlie Kirk is top of mind, top of mind for the country, top of mind for the movement. President Trump has just ordered the flags to have staff. I don't know. I think we may have some footage on that. Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk, a great man, a great man who would never sit there and go, I'm a great man. Charlie Kirk was all, all about getting it done. That's what always impressed me about this guy, everything he accomplished. Everybody's trying to get to him, everybody's trying to praise him and hold him up. Charlie Kirk was just, at the end of the day, just a grinder. Got it done right. And what he got done was absolutely magnificent. He is one of the key reasons we've been able to save this country to date. If it was not for Charlie Kirk and the great team that he built at Turning Point usa, we would not be where we are today. Short commercial break. You missed the IRS tax deadline. You think it's just going to go away? Well, think again. The IRS doesn't mess around and they're applying pressure like we haven't seen in years. So if you haven't filed in a while, even if you can't pay, don't wait. And don't face the IRS alone. You need the trusted experts by your side. Tax Network usa. Tax Network USA isn't like other tax relief companies. They have an edge, a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which ones to avoid. They use smart, aggressive strategies to settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. Whether you owe $10,000 or $10 million, Tax Network USA has helped resolve over $1 billion in tax debt. And they can help you, too. Don't wait on this. It's only going to get worse. Call Tax Network USA right now. It's free. Talk with one of their strategists and put your IRS troubles behind you. Put it behind you today. Call Tax Network USA at 1-800-958-1000. That's 800-958-1000 or visit Tax Network USA tnusa.com Bannon do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you. Do it today.

C (44:57)

Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban.

B (45:01)

Besides being a very good friend, Jack, you were almost Charlie's partner in the podcast. You follow him here in Real America's Voice. You would. You would sync your schedules. You guys travel around the country. You were live in the irony of this, you were live on the show this afternoon when we got the announcement that Charlie had been shot. What went through your mind?

C (45:21)

You know, look, it's. It's being in the military, being intelligence, having served at Guantanamo. It's. It's just something where you, you take the emotions, and I always say you just kind of put your emotions on the shelf and you just, you focus. What happened? All right, how bad? The same. Same. Same as when I got the news about Trump. It's how bad, you know, and then who do we have booked? Get him off. You know, get them off. I just. Get me off air. Get me on the phone. Get me information. What happened? What's the latest? What's the situation? And then as it came out, more and more and more, it's. You just have to think. You have to think. All right, has anyone informed Erica? You know, is she given the green light to put this information out, et cetera, et cetera? Because this is obviously the most sensitive thing that you could talk about in a situation like this, you know, but then you're just inundated. My phone, it just wouldn't, I'm sure yours, too, it just won't stop ringing. And I'm barely responding to anyone outside of just the family. And Tanya, of course, calling, and she's close with Erica, so she's, she's powering through. And, you know, you have to think. And it's weirdly enough, part of me is just thinking, you know, hey, we have the show Thursday. What? You know, I'm trying to think of my schedule Thursday. Like, oh, yeah, what time's Charlie free? What time are we going to tape the show?

B (46:42)

And this is your special podcast.

C (46:44)

We do that. We do the Thought Crime show. Yeah. And it, and it, and it just.

B (46:47)

And you got to sync the schedules.

C (46:49)

Like, we've been doing it, doing it for, you know, a couple years now, and, and, and it just hasn't kicked, hasn't set in yet that, you know, we, we're not going to do that show or any more shows.

B (46:59)

Yeah, that won't kick in for you. Also the, the coverage he would do, the amazing coverage of all the elections, the Kerry Lake situation out in Arizona, election night, the stolen election, so many.

C (47:09)

Being with them on election night, so many memories.

B (47:11)

And this guy, I'm telling you, for someone that had risen so fast, a lot of times it goes to people's heads, right? And they become too precious. They can't do it. Charlie Kirk today, he was assassinated doing what he's been doing for years and years and years. Other people could do that, but Charlie Kirk was doing it at Utah Valley University in front of looks like 3 to 5,000 kids in the high noon in the lunch break and sitting right there. And what would you say, Jack, if you disagree with me, come to front. Come to the front.

C (47:43)

Come to the front. Look, Charlie, he wanted that back and forth, but not out of anger, not out of a place of. He wanted to humiliate them or embarrass them or something like that, because he wanted to actually try to communicate with them. And that's what he would do, is he would find a way, find out something personal about that person. And I watched his technique for years, and he would try to find a way to come out outside of politics, get to the core of what made that person tick, and then start to have a conversation there outside of the combativeness.

B (48:18)

Taj Gil, you join us. You did what, 16 tours, you've had a lot of very close friends killed in combat. Today we had a political assassination. Charlie Kirk, 31 years old, 1 of the great leaders in the United States of America and one of the leaders of his generation, cut down in cold blood by an assassin's bullet. Your thoughts, sir?

F (48:40)

Yeah. First, I just want to say my condolences to Charlie Kirk's family and to America. This is a huge tragedy. It's crazy to think that these things are happening regularly now. Look, they tried to kill Trump twice last summer. There's murders on the subways. It's crazy what's going on in America. This, this left wing ideology is becoming more and more radicalized as the years and the months go by. You shouldn't be, have to go to a, like have armed security everywhere you go. You shouldn't have to look over your shoulder everywhere you go. This is absolutely sickening that somebody killed Charlie Kirk out of college. It's. It's absolutely sickening, Steve. It's horrible. It's terrible. And the irony of this is this left wing ideology is born out of, from the college professors that's who's radicalizing our children? The young men and young women. When they go to college, they get radicalized by these college professors. And it's getting to the point where it's almost as dangerous as radical Islam.

B (49:54)

It's the whole, it's, it's the whole propaganda all the way through. And their ideas don't work. And so when their ideas don't work, they strike out like children. They're getting more and more radical because.

C (50:05)

They, because they've lost power. They've lost control of the narrative, they've lost soft power, they've lost political power. This is all they have left. So that is why they are turning to the mangione tactics. That's why they're turning violent, because it's all they have left. And who was it that said it? The most radical communist of them all, Chairman Mao. Political power grows through the barrel of a gun.

B (50:29)

Yes. And they, and they.

F (50:32)

It doesn't just. And they're killing our children, Steve. These transvestite shooters are going in just to these, you know, this Catholic school last month and whatever school, but it's, it's absolutely sickening. They're attacking our children through their transvestites. You know, they're killing political figures that, that they don't agree with. They're doing. They're desperate to hang on to power any way possible. And even if it means killing people. In the United States of America, the land of the free, the home of the brave, the free speech country, they want to silence conservatives, they want to silence white people. It's absolutely sickening what is going on. And this should not happen in America. This is, this is the safe haven of the world. We are the leader of the free world. We're the leader of Christianity. And people are being murdered every day. It's horrible.

B (51:28)

Taj, we gotta bounce. Thank you so much. Jack Posobic closing thoughts on one of the great ones. Charlie Kirk assassinated today on the what, 10th of September in the year of our Lord 2025 at just after high noon mountain time in right outside Salt Lake City, Utah.

C (51:45)

Just like when you went away, Steve, Even though that was a brief time, what you said, I'm going to say it again. It's next. Man up. Turning Point USA will never die. The movement that Charlie started will never die. And Charlie Kirk will be forever remembered now and for all times.

B (52:08)

Jack Posopic and I got a shove off. We're going to turn it over to John Solomon. John Solomon's going to take it from here. In real America's Voice, the home of the Charlie Kirk Show. We won't be tossing it to Charlie Kirk tomorrow. People got to embrace that.

C (52:22)

Steve, you know what Charlie would say to us when he's looking down? He'd say, hey, guys, get to work.

B (52:26)

Yeah, figure it out.

C (52:27)

Figure it out.

B (52:27)

Figure it out. You have to embrace that the future is not guaranteed to anyone. Remember that. Remember that in the fight we have. And I will tell the left and those people cheering this on and that crowd over msnbc, Matthew Dowd and that crowd, we have not yet begun to fight. Turn it over now to John Solomon at Real America's Voice. Just the news. What if he had the brightest mind in the war room delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War Room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets, Jim predicted Trump's Electoral College victory exactly 312 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, MoneyGPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos, bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes, and even threats to national security. Right now, War Room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go torickards war room dot com. That's all one word. Rickards War Rooms records with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's Rickards War room dot com. Do it today.