Episode 4780: Designate Antifa A Terrorist Organization

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bannon's War Room – Episode 4780

"Designate Antifa A Terrorist Organization"

Date: September 15, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Notable Guests & Speakers: Donald Trump, Stephen Miller, Phil Lyman, various reporters

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on President Trump's newly announced federal surge targeting crime in American cities—specifically the reported success in Washington, D.C., and the extension to Memphis and potentially other cities such as Chicago and St. Louis. A major focus is the call to designate Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization, especially in light of the recent assassination of conservative figure Charlie Kirk. The episode features a roundtable with political allies, legal strategists, law enforcement leaders, and reflections on the federal crime-fighting strategy, the role of radical left groups, and government response to violence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Federal Crime Surge: D.C. Successes & Memphis Initiatives

Timestamps: 00:46–08:41

• President Trump's Crime Response: Trump, joined by senior advisors, details a federal law enforcement push in Washington, D.C., touting "the largest ever violent crime reduction in any city in American history" (08:55, Stephen K. Bannon).
• The approach in Memphis builds on D.C. results and involves interagency coordination, National Guard deployment, and extensive federal prosecutions (02:54, Stephen Miller).
• Trump asserts, “We’re doing it in a big way…somebody had to do this. A president should have stepped up long ago and saved these cities.” (03:38, Trump)
• The Memphis effort is portrayed as a "long-term" mission in contrast to perceived inaction and failures under previous administrations (05:48, Stephen Miller; 04:50, Memphis reporters).
• Reports from local leaders and citizens describe Memphis as “so dangerous that you can’t get out of your car…you get robbed, you get mugged, you get hit” (01:29, quoting a community member).

2. Expanding to Other Cities

Timestamps: 04:29–07:04, 18:03–19:43

• Trump and team indicate plans to replicate these interventions in other cities suffering from violent crime, with Baltimore, Chicago, and St. Louis named as likely next targets.
  • “We have plenty of places... That’s great. Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Ken.” (07:04, Trump)
  • "We've got to save St. Louis. We've got to save these cities." (18:16, Trump)
• Claims that past administration policies toward law enforcement fostered a "culture" of inaction and emboldened violent actors (15:51, Trump).

3. Designating Antifa as a Terrorist Organization

Timestamps: 15:16–18:03, 37:39–44:03

• The panel repeatedly ties violent protests, attacks on law enforcement, and the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk to Antifa and related radical left-wing groups.
• Trump expresses clear willingness:
  • “It’s something I would do, yeah, if I have support from the people back here... I would do that 100%...” (15:35, Trump)
  • “Antifa is terrible.” (15:51, Trump)
• Discussion of using RICO statutes against funders and organizers of violent agitation, with a focus on bringing criminal charges, freezing bank accounts, and investigating financing—extending potentially to NGOs and foreign actors (34:53, Bannon).
• Bannon frames this as a fulfillment of the War Room’s long-standing call:
  • "President Trump said right there... designate Antifa a domestic terrorist organization... Then you get into the international part of it..." (37:39, Bannon)
• Stephen Miller outlines a “three-level” hierarchy of radical organizations and explains why designation enables expansive investigations, wiretaps, and financial tracking (43:57, Miller).

4. The Charlie Kirk Assassination & Cultural Conflict

Timestamps: 19:29–29:36, 51:03–56:49

• Trump and his advisors repeatedly link the assassination of Charlie Kirk to left-wing radicalization online, parental oversight, and social media platforms.
• Phil Lyman, present at the event, describes the crowd’s mood and reactions, observing that “there were some people... who were not hiding. And it was kind of the LGBTQ. I walked right over and ... they weren’t afraid. They knew something the rest of the people in that crowd didn't know. They were not afraid.” (53:48, Lyman)
• Trump blames "radical left" internet influence and defends plans for attending Kirk’s memorial, reflecting on Kirk's influence:
  • “He was all about young people getting them started, right? ... Turning Point ... could be maybe bigger than it could have ever been had he been there...” (27:16, Trump)
• Ongoing implication that violence is largely a left-wing phenomenon; Trump:
  • “The radical left causes tremendous violence, and they seem to do it in a bigger way. But the radical left really has caused a lot of problems for this country. I really think they hate our country.” (34:20, Trump)

5. Policies on Free Speech, Flags, and Law Enforcement

Timestamps: 30:11–32:12

• Discussion moves to controversial symbols and First Amendment issues, particularly around the trans pride flag in D.C.; Trump argues flag burning “incites violence” and floats jail time for those who burn the American flag (30:17, Trump).
• Miller and Bannon discuss groups like “transtifa” and suggest their inclusion in future terror group designations (31:53, Miller; 32:04, Trump).

6. Plans to Target NGOs and Funding Networks

Timestamps: 34:36–35:56

• Bannon and Trump discuss alleged nonprofit and NGO involvement in organizing, funding, and supplying violent protest activities, especially against ICE and Border Patrol. Bannon:
  • “There’s this whole network of organizations ... under the President’s direction, the attorney general is going to find out who is paying for it, and they will now be criminally liable for paying for violence.” (34:56, Bannon)
• Trump adds anecdotes about protest tactic evolution and vows sweeping law enforcement, stating the country will be made “really safe.” (35:40, Trump)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Stephen K. Bannon (08:55): “In 30 days, President Trump put together a team that saw the largest ever violent crime reduction in any city in American history. … The power of law enforcement under President Trump is going to be used to get all the criminals ... all the domestic terrorists off our streets.”
• Donald Trump (15:35): “It’s something I would do, yeah, if I have support from the people back here ... I would do that 100% ... Antifa is terrible.”
• Phil Lyman (53:48): “...there were some people ... who were not hiding. And it was kind of the lgbtq. I walked right over and ... they weren’t afraid. They knew something that the rest of the people in that crowd didn't know. They were not afraid.”
• Stephen Miller (43:57): “Three levels of these radical organizations ... They radicalize these kids ... then you have a whole other group of very serious... Special Forces... the third layer, and that’s the politicians, the media, the operational aspect and the financing."
• Donald Trump (34:20): “The radical left causes tremendous violence, and they seem to do it in a bigger way. But the radical left really has caused a lot of problems for this country.”
• Stephen K. Bannon (37:39): "President Trump said right there... designate Antifa a domestic terrorist organization... That’s when you start to have a serious investigation."

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 00:46–03:38: Trump & team discuss D.C. crime-fighting success, set up of Operation Summerheat, transition to Memphis.
• 08:41–10:35: Bannon lauds the crime initiative, frames federal approach, signals shift in law enforcement priorities.
• 15:16–19:43: Press Q&A on Antifa designation, RICO investigations, and expansion to other cities.
• 27:14–29:36: Trump reflects on Charlie Kirk, plans for memorial, and Turning Point’s legacy.
• 30:11–32:12: Debate on trans flags in D.C., American flag issues, free speech vs. incitement.
• 34:36–35:56: Bannon details plans to investigate and prosecute NGOs for protest organization.
• 37:39–44:03: Bannon/Miller: rationale and mechanisms for designating Antifa, layers of radical groups, international financing.
• 53:48–56:49: Phil Lyman’s eyewitness account of the Kirk event, observations about protesters’ reactions.
• 51:03–53:48: Stephen Miller & Phil Lyman analyze Utah’s political climate and culture-war issues post-Kirk assassination.

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Tone and Language

The episode is marked by combative rhetoric, urgency, and a tone of criminal justice “war footing.” Speakers employ anecdotal evidence, personal testimony, and strong partisan framing. Descriptions are vivid, with language emphasizing threat, action, and the righteousness of the administration’s law-and-order approach.

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Conclusion

Episode 4780 delivers a comprehensive defense of the Trump administration’s aggressive new anti-crime initiative, spotlights moves toward classifying Antifa as a terrorist group, and connects city crime problems to broader cultural and political battles. The episode weaves local crime anecdotes, a tragic high-profile assassination, and national strategy into a narrative about reclaiming public safety by targeting not just street crime but also protest movements and their support networks. Trump and top advisors position themselves as uniquely proactive in restoring law and order, broadening criminal investigations, and responding forcefully to left-wing activism and violence.

Transcript

[Reporter]

A high number of trafficking, significant human traffickers, child exploitation, drug trafficking, the local gangs. They're extremely dangerous. And I'm so excited that you're going in there to work with not just the governor and willing local leaders, but also our attorney general and all the leaders that are standing here today to help protect our children. So what's going to change dramatically is the families lives that live there. And it's only going to happen because of you, because you're coming in what has started there. You're going to put on steroids. The networks that you're going going to uncover across this country because of the work that's going to happen in Memphis. We're going to see every city get safer because we're going to see those ties to other criminals that we're going to get out of the country. So we're a nation of laws. And, sir, thank you for caring about every single city.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you, Christy. Really nice. And what makes it to me so exciting is the success we had here so quickly. And, you know, we've taken close to 1500 people out of D.C. but when I saw the result happen so quickly and so many people are so thankful and people that you pass them every day and they're fine, all of a sudden, they're thanking me so profusely. It was so exciting what's happened and continues to be what happened in D.C. and so that's what makes us, I think, even more exciting, because we know what's going to happen. We know we have the people. Look, we're sending in a lot of help. These cities have been taken over for years, and the last four years under Biden, what's happened is just a disgrace. So it really has, what the success we've had here has made it to me, much more exciting because I think we're going to have, proportionally, I mean, you have cases where it's even worse. I have some people, we, we have some people quoted today that we took out of papers. We're so grateful for the National Guard coming, said an owner of a Memphis tax service. It's so dangerous here. It's so darn dangerous that you can't get out of your car. If you get out of your car, he says, you get robbed, you get mugged, you get hit, you can't go to the market or a service station. So, yeah, I want to see crime stop and I want to see the National Guard come in right away, if that's what's necessary. There's a need. Here's another one. From a director of a Memphis based crime prevention organization. There's a need for more boots on the ground. You have to get them done fast before we totally lose it. They're going to lose it all. I got two guns put in my face. At another, within five minutes at two different locations. He said, I got a gun put in my face. Then I went someplace else, had another gun put in my face. I was scared. It never happened to me. I've never seen anything like it. Here's another one. I honestly thought he was going to kill me, said a 60 year old Memphis carjacking victim. A man walked up. Give me your car. You got five seconds to get out or you're dead. This is what we have. And there's page after page of the same kind of thing. Cash. Would you say a few words, please? Thank you, Mr. President.

[Stephen Miller]

Thanks to your brilliant foresight. You had asked us to go in quietly into the cities to help set the landscape, to work with the interagency and to make America safe again.

[Donald Trump]

And we've done that under the FBI's.

[Stephen Miller]

Banner Program of Operation Summerheat. And the results are only as good as the prosecution's. And because the Attorney General and the deputy Attorney General have mobilized DoJ to successfully prosecute so many violent criminals, we have set the landscape for the interagency to come into Memphis and really make it safe permanently. As the governor and the senators and the other directors were saying, it's not a short term mission, but thanks to you launching us early, launching us quietly, not looking for the credit. Mr. President, we greatly appreciate your support and the advanced foresight you had in doing that.

[Donald Trump]

It's so exciting. And somebody had to do this. A president should have stepped up long ago and saved these cities. So it's not that I wanted to do it, believe me, somebody had to do it. And we're doing it in a big way. Keith, could you say a few words?

[Phil Lyman]

Yes, Mr. President. From day one, the Dow, the Department of War.

[Donald Trump]

I'm glad you made that correct.

[Phil Lyman]

Correct, sir. Has been proud to stand with our partners across the interagency, whether it's the southwest border, whether it was Los Angeles getting ahead of that, whether it's right here in Washington, D.C. where Secretary Driscoll and the army and the National Guard have taken the lead in helping across.

[Donald Trump]

All of these great folks to secure the city.

[Phil Lyman]

We are very proud to be here.

[Stephen Miller]

To stand strong alongside law enforcement.

[Phil Lyman]

We're glad that Memphis is the place to go, the volunteer state.

[Stephen Miller]

We're not going to have any Problems.

[Phil Lyman]

With the Tennessee National Guard being willing.

[Donald Trump]

To go in and stand strong? Not at all. Not at all. And get ready, because you'll be doing a lot of other places that are almost as troubled. Some of them are equal. You look at what's going on in Baltimore, where the Governor was telling me how wonderful it is, and you can't walk across the street without being shot. Could I ask our two great senators to say a few words, please?

[Reporter]

Of course, Mr. President. Thank you so much. I want to say a thank you to Director Patel because he had promised that he would come into Memphis. We've had Operation Viper there this summer. There have been over 500 arrests. There are over 100 indictments. And Memphis had the best stats they have had in years this past August. Last month, it was the best August they have had. It's because of the work that's been done. And now to have a new phase of this enforcement for Memphis, where we are going to have all of these agencies working as a team, as the Governor said, making certain that this is a long term effort to make Memphis safe again. Mr. President, we are so grateful and we thank you.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you.

[Stephen Miller]

Yeah, thanks, Mr. President. And this is an issue that's plagued Memphis since I was a boy, Mr. President, and it's time that we addressed it. And I appreciate your leadership allowing us to do that. And the team that you've assembled here is going to help us deliver the most fundamental responsibility of our government, and that's public safety. This shouldn't be a partisan issue. This should be something that is our primary goal, and certainly I hope to see Memphis become the safest city in America. And thanks for the effort of all of your team here to make us make certain that happens. Thank you, Governor Lee. And I want to say thanks to the Memphis Police Department and the Sheriff's Department there, too, who have all worked closely to bring this together. I look forward to tremendous results.

[Donald Trump]

And I want to thank the FBI for the last four or five months because they have brought down the numbers quite a bit. Chicago here and a couple of other places that we can talk about later. If anybody wants to. Could I ask you to Terry Gaddy, say a couple of words also? You really did lead the charge here, and you've done such a great job.

[Phil Lyman]

Please, Mr. President, thank you for always supporting law enforcement. I think the major difference here in Washington, D.C. has been your support for law enforcement, has been empowering the men and women that are on the street working every single day. And I look forward to not only going to Memphis, but other places in Tennessee as well. And I think you'll hear from us real soon. Mr. President, thank you for your support, sir.

[Donald Trump]

We have plenty of places.

[Phil Lyman]

Yes, sir, we do.

[Donald Trump]

You know the country very well. That's great. Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Ken.

[Stephen Miller]

Mr. President, I just want to say that we're honored once again to lead the charge with the United States Marshals Service leading and joining 22 other federal agencies. I can say that today we spoke with over 30 of the local agencies, letting them know what to expect, giving them the template that we've done here in D.C. so they know what to expect.

[Donald Trump]

They're extremely excited.

[Stephen Miller]

I think everyone is going to be well receiving the law enforcement surge that.

[Donald Trump]

We'Re about to take to Memphis. Great job.

[Stephen Miller]

Thank you.

[Donald Trump]

And I'm going to ask one of the best lawyers in the country. He is one of the best. Todd, say a few words, please. He is a great Lawyer.

[Stephen Miller]

Thank you, Mr. President. Ye. Look, I think it's been said for the past 15 minutes, the President ran on making this country safe again. And we do not make this country safe again unless we go into our cities where there's the most violent among us and go street by street and block by block and arrest, arrest the men and women in this country that are destroying cities and communities for the rest of us. And so what we plan on doing, as the governor said and the senator just said, this has been a problem in Memphis for a long time. We plan on delivering Memphis back to the citizens that are there to raise their families, to go to church, to be in their communities. That's our goal, and that's what we plan on doing. Whether it takes two weeks or two years, that's what we're going to do.

[Donald Trump]

Thanks, Todd. The great Stephen Miller. Please say a few words.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Thank you, Mr. President.

[Donald Trump]

There's no motion you do on television. That's hard to do. I think that's going to be hard to do.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

President Trump's initiative here in Washington, D.C. it's important to understand, is the most successful anti crime initiative in American history. But just think about it for a second. In 30 days, President Trump put together a team that saw the largest ever violent crime reduction in any city in American history. Something that people had not been able to do in 40 years. That is a momentous achievement. And now the President is going to take that same model to Memphis. And as he said, more cities after that. The team the President has put together has no equal today or anywhere in American history. I think what's happening Here is that what the president has done is made clear the power of federal law enforcement that was used for the last four years to harass and attack conservatives, to harass and attack Christians, to go after law abiding families. The power of law enforcement under President Trump is going to be used to get all the criminals, all the violent offenders, all the murderers, all the cartels and all the domestic terrorists off our streets. So whether you're antifa, whether you're a domestic terrorist, whether you are a violent gang member, a drug trafficker, a trained nicua killer, or anyone else that's hurting our people, President Trump is saying he's going to use his FBI, his Dodge, his atf, his dea, to wipe you out, to put you behind bars, to take you off the street, or to apply whatever legal consequences necessary. Mr. President, I'm honored beyond words to be a part of this team under your leadership as you've saved thousands of lives.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you very much. Come on over, let's sign that bill. You want to say anything about our great military real fast? What a job he's doing, this guy.

[Stephen Miller]

Mr. President. So our Army National Guard is honored to be part of this mission. This is their community. A lot of them are from D.C. they're from Tennessee. When you talk to them, when you talk to the actual population out there who interact with them every day, they say it's a blessing to have them as a part of their lives. And then for the National Guard, getting to have this, where they get to improve their communities, where their kids are growing up and they're going to church and this is where their families are. Many of them, sir, have said this is the honor of their lifetime. So thank you.

[Donald Trump]

Look at that nice face. And yet he's a killer. That nice, beautiful face, yet he's a total killer. I don't know how you do it. Loads of great. Everybody here is. All right, here we go. How wonderful. Perfect. Wonderful. Okay, thank you, sir. Thank you very much.

[Stephen Miller]

Thank you.

[Donald Trump]

Thank you very much, Bill. Thank you very much. Great job. Any questions, please? First of all, you've got. Did they take down the blue tent? Yes, sir. Last time he hit me with a blue tent. Nobody knew what he was talking about. We found out. Right. And it was gone the next day. And they had a lot of. That was not so easy. That's a violent, radical left group. Okay, go ahead. I got peppered with a lot of comments for doing that. They still have their First Amendment right, though. They're still out there. You've got an amazing team behind you. You've done an awesome job. I want to get ahead of a.

[Stephen Miller]

Story that I think might come out.

[Donald Trump]

You pushed out an email earlier today, really showing dozens and dozens of local.

[Stephen Miller]

Media in Memphis highlighting all the violent crime in that city.

[Donald Trump]

So they have no problem reporting the.

[Stephen Miller]

Crime, but when you show up to.

[Donald Trump]

Solve it, they're going to run around.

[Stephen Miller]

Town looking for that one person that says, we don't want Donald Trump in our city.

[Donald Trump]

What can you say to the media there in Memphis, Tennessee, to help let them know the people want you there in their city? Well, I'm not sure they found that person, you know, because I saw them doing some interviews, and it looked like they were looking, but they were very. In fact, that producer, that person, I think they lost their jobs because everybody was saying, we want Trump to be there. They want the people right here to be in there. Look, it's very simple. In Chicago, they're getting beat to hell. They're being shot. If you lose six or seven people die over a weekend, they consider that a successful weekend. And when you consider that a successful weekend, that's pretty bad. I had the president of Poland here a few days ago, and we had a news conference. Many of you were here. And I made the statement. I said, you know, we're very happy to announce that it's been over two weeks since anybody has been killed in D.C. and he looked at me like, is that supposed to be good? You know, he's looking like, what kind of a place is this? And now it's been a long time. But. And as I was saying it, I said, you know, I'm not sure if that sounds good to somebody. It sounded great to you, but it doesn't sound good to somebody from a country where they don't have violent crime like we have. But now it's a long time since that's happened. We went for years where at least one person was killed. Now you're not seeing it. It's like the border. Millions of people. A year ago, millions of people poured into our country. In the last three months, there have been zero, as reported by largely Democrats. Actually, the border is secure. The country is secure. We've got the hottest country anywhere in the world. And I'll tell you, a year ago, we were a country in tremendous trouble, probably a dead country if it continued. So we're very happy about it. And so just, you know, in terms of your question, people have never seen anything like what we're doing. And I think they're very happy and they want Us to be there. They don't want to be mugged. Who would say, gee, I don't want the National Guard. And you need that in terms of numbers. And also you look at those guys. I looked at them. They're rough guys. They're, you know, the Supreme Court voted recently on merit. We're a merit based country again. I said they had tremendous courage to do that. We're merit based based country again. When I looked at the people that were patrolling the streets for the National Guard and for others I could see were merit based. They were rough looking, they were tough looking and they love our country. So that's where we are. Brian, thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah, please.

[Reporter]

Yes, given with all the, what's going on with Charlie Kirk's assassination and the left wing, a lot of left wings violence going on. Do you have plans and actually this is a great, great opportunity with all these. Do you plan on designating Antifa finally a domestic terror organization?

[Donald Trump]

Well, it's something I would do, yeah, if I have support from the people back here. I think we'd start with Pam, I think. But I would, if you give me, I would do that 100% and others also, by the way. But Antifa is terrible.

[Reporter]

Are there other groups that you can make up?

[Donald Trump]

There are other groups, yeah, there are other groups. We have some pretty radical groups and they got away with murder. And also I've been speaking to the attorney general about bringing RICO against some of the people that you've been reading about that have been putting up millions and millions of dollars for agitation. These aren't protests, these are crimes. What they're doing where they're throwing bricks at cars of ICE and Border patrol and they come in a beautiful new car, they're so proud. It's Border Patrol ice, you know, it's got whatever it is and they're throwing rocks at it. And after 50 yards, it looks like an old beat up vehicle. It was just brand new. It was just bought for the purposes. And they don't have to take that anymore. I let it be known we'll take responsibility. They don't have to take it anymore and they don't want to take it. They were told by a past administration, it became almost a culture. If somebody throws a rock at you, do nothing. If somebody spits in your face, do nothing. And I say when they spit, you hit. Do whatever you want. You do whatever the hell you want. I watch it. I watched it so sick. It made me for four years I had to sit home and watch People screaming at policemen and spitting in their face. And they weren't able to do anything. They just had a grin and bear. They're standing up like a piece of steel. And a woman, in many cases women, you can see they're professional agitators. I had one the other night. I had four the other night, all in one group. Total phonies that started to scream when I got into a restaurant. Oh, you know, something with Palestine. I said, well, I'm doing a great job for peace in the Middle East. I should get lots of awards for that. Right. With the Abraham Accords and everything else. But a woman just stood up and started screaming and she got booed out of the place, too. The people. There were a lot of people in the restaurant. I went there to show how safe and it was safe. I mean, the woman is just a mouthpiece. All she was. She was a paid. She was a paid agitator. And you have a lot of them. And I've asked Pam to look into that in terms of RICO bringing RICO cases against the criminal, rico, because they should be put in jail. What they're doing to this country is really subversive.

[Reporter]

Is that Mr. President Kayanski, one on prime and Mr. President Kayefsky, one on crime and one on Charlie Kirk. You've floated potentially going into St. Louis. You mentioned you want to go into Chicago next. Could St. Louis be out to Chicago?

[Donald Trump]

It's going to be around there someplace. Yeah. We got to save St. Louis. We've got to save these cities. This isn't like, you know, we're going to do something. We have to save St. Louis. We have to save Chicago. I know all about Chicago. I have a great, beautiful building. I'm so proud of it. But, you know, you get less proud when you see all the crime. When they announced two weeks, 11 people killed. This is over a weekend, I think they said 38 people shot and 11 people dead. And then you watch Pritzker get up and say, we've got crime under control. And I will say that cash and the FBI did a good job with a very light force. They went in and for about four months, cash or so, they've been working on keeping Kremlin. They have brought the numbers down a little bit, but those are the easy numbers. You know, the first 20, 25% are the easy numbers. That's what gets. Then you have to bring in the big forces. Right. Which is what we always intended to do. But I think the FBI has done a very good job in particular in Memphis and Chicago, they burn down a little bit, like 20% and 25%. I guess it's not so little. But we have a long way to go. We think Chicago is going to be next and we'll get to St. Louis.

[Reporter]

And on Charlie Kirks assassin and New.

[Donald Trump]

Orleans we want to get to too.

[Reporter]

Your FBI is investigating the potential role of left wing organizations in the assassination. I'm wondering if you think if Charlie Kirk's assassin worked alone or he worked with.

[Donald Trump]

I don't know, I mean I can tell you he didn't work alone on the Internet because it seems that he became radicalized on the Internet. That's just by watching what same things that you're watching and hearing. It looks like he became radicalized over the Internet and it seems like his wonderful parents brought in a wonderful neighborhood, smart guy, great boards, great marks, great student and then he. Something happened to him over a fairly short period of time. Looks like he was radicalized over the Internet and it's radicalized on the left. He's a left. A lot of problems with the left and they get protected and they shouldn't be protected. But as you understand, I think very well from the tone of your question. Thank you very much.

[Reporter]

On Venezuela, sir, Israel first. On Venezuela, what can you tell us about this Venezuelan boat that was taken out and do you plan to provide proof that these were narco terrorists who were on their way to the US?

[Donald Trump]

Well, we have proof. All you have to do is look at the cargo that was like it's spattered all over the ocean. Big bags of cocaine and fentanyl all over the place and it was. Plus we have recorded evidence that they were leaving. We've recorded them. It's very careful because we know you people would be after us. We're very careful. The military, the military has been amazing and General Kane showed me a little while ago the clip. But you could actually see it. But you don't have to see it because we have recorded proof and evidence. We know what time they were leaving, when they were leaving, what they had and all of the other things that, that you'd like to have. But we have noticed that there are no ships in the ocean anymore. We're seeing that there's like no ships. No, you know, when the first one we went there were hundreds of boats. Now there are no boats. I wonder why. Meaning no drugs are coming across. Probably stopping some fishermen too. I mean, to be honest, if I were a fisherman I wouldn't want to go fishing. Just a nice, let's take a Little trip. Because I'd say, man, if they. Maybe they think I have drugs downstairs, I don't want that. I think the fishing business probably been hurt, but no, there are literally no boats. This was a boat and we were surprised to see it. Now, what does that mean? That means there's no drugs coming by sea, but they do come by land. And you know what we're telling the cartels right now? We're going to be stopping them, too. When they come by land, we're going to be stopping them the same way we stopped the boats. And you'll see that. But maybe by talking about it a little bit, it won't happen. If it doesn't happen, that's good. But they killed 300,000 people in our country last year, and we're not letting it happen anymore.

[Reporter]

And then on Israel, did Bibi Netanyahu speak to you directly to alert you that Israel was going to be striking Hamas sites in Qatar?

[Donald Trump]

No, he didn't. No, he didn't.

[Reporter]

Yeah, go ahead, Khadijah, learn of it.

[Donald Trump]

Same way you did. Go ahead, please.

[Stephen Miller]

You mentioned that the shooter was radicalized online.

[Donald Trump]

I think so. You know, by the way, when I say that, that's my opinion, I think he was radicalized online based on what they're saying.

[Stephen Miller]

Do social media companies bear any responsibility for that? And how does that.

[Donald Trump]

I'm going to have to ask. I don't know. I'd ask Pam that question. I don't know if you or Todd could give an answer to that. Somebody has to bear some responsibility, you.

[Reporter]

Know, and President Trump, I've always told parents, you got to watch what your kids are doing on the Internet, what they're doing online, what they're listening to, what they're reading. They're all online. They're all on their phones all the time. Parents have got to monitor that because this starts when you're young. This starts when you're young, when you listen to these groups, when you watch these shows. And parents have got to just be vigilant. So sure, that's part of it. And they're meeting kids online who they think are kids, and they can be anywhere in the world and talking to them. And yeah, they are being radicalized.

[Donald Trump]

He went bad, and he just. It went bad very quickly, in a sense, because he sort of led a very normal life, a life of, you know, great education, schools, everything else. But somewhere along the line, something happened. Yeah, please. Thank you, Mr. President.

[Phil Lyman]

How will you send the National Guard into Chicago without cooperation of the governor.

[Donald Trump]

And mayor well, if they do cooperate, that's good. If they don't, it's not going to matter to us at all. You know, who wants to help us? Police department. They have no respect for the governor. They have no respect for the mayor. They respect us. And we found that in Washington. You know, we haven't had total support in Washington from government, as you know, from everybody. I don't want to say the mayor because she was better than most, but we haven't had great, great. But we have had great support from the metropolitan police. They're like brothers of these people. They're really like brothers. You see that they work together. And so if the governor wants to support, as I said to Bill, it's going to be his proudest moment, what he's going to do. The governor of Tennessee, what's going to happen with Memphis in three, four weeks, we'll stand together and we'll say, look at this, the crime has almost disappeared, maybe completely disappeared in Washington. They don't even know how to record it because it's down so much. You know, they've never heard of. I heard 87% is down. I said, really? Who are the 13%? Because it's more than that. It's actually more hard to believe. Right. You're going to have the same results in Chicago. And we hope we have the governor's help, but if we don't, we're doing it without him. And I'm just saying, Mr. President, you.

[Phil Lyman]

Had the framework that's been agreed to with TikTok.

[Donald Trump]

For example, will China continue to have a stake in the company or. Well, we haven't decided that, but it looks to me, and I'm speaking to President Xi on Friday for confirmation of that. And, you know, frankly, more importantly, a big deal. And we've had very good meetings, as you know, we were in Europe, our people, Scott Besant and Jamison, or Jamison, Greer and others. And it was a very big meeting with China. And, you know, they're treating us with respect. We treat them with respect, too. But it was very successful. And on top of it, we have what could be a very good deal. Don't forget, I've had more people say, could you try and keep TikTok alive? I use TikTok. I mean, I have to admit it in the election and look how I did with you. No Republicans come close. I blew everyone away. You know, if you, if you look back not so long ago, Romney, he got like 7% of the youth. I got like eight times that amount. I guess I got tremendous numbers of you, by the way. I want to say Charlie helped me. And Charlie was the one get on TikTok. He used to say to me, get on TikTok. Charlie was unbelievable. So probably. And I did. I had somebody named Tick Tock Jack, and he'd put that camera. He said, just a real quick statement, sir, like 10 seconds or less. They didn't like anything over 10 seconds, but it worked. But Charlie is the one that really. And my son Baron also. And I have to say, Don, Eric, the whole group, it's important and it can maybe even bring us closer to China. We had a very good meeting with China. I was surprised. I didn't expect it to that extent. And I'm going to speak again with President Xi on Friday. And, you know, I think. I think that'll confirm things up. Charlie Kirk in Crime on Charlie Kirk.

[Stephen Miller]

Are you planning to speak at the.

[Donald Trump]

Funeral and what would your message be? Well, I'm going on Sunday. We're taking a whole plane load and having. I was invited on Saturday, but I said I'd rather save it for Sunday. You know, we're going to have a. Have a stadium, and I'll bet that stadium is going to be pretty packed, maybe completely packed. It's going to be big. But I'm going to be at the stadium and I guess I'll say a few words. I don't know, but I guess I will. But I knew him very well. He was an amazing guy. He was an amazing guy. He. He was all about young people getting them started, right? And he was like a magnet for young people. They just attracted to him. He loved him and they attracted to him. His wife is a tremendous person, by the way. He always had great respect for his wife. He got married. I was. I didn't know he was getting married. I already got married. And it's. He loved her. Tell you, he really loved her. She loved him. And I think she'll have something to do with keeping the, that whole thing going. You know, Turning Point is it became a very big deal and I heard they had like 38,000. So he wanted to get it up to 20,000 chapters. That's a lot. That would have been a lifetime's work. I heard that over the last four days they have 38,000 people wanted, 38,000 chapters at colleges, schools, other places, numbers that, you know, nobody has ever heard of, numbers like that. So I think Turning Point could be, you know, through what happened, this horrible act. It could be maybe bigger than it could have ever been. Had he been there, and I will say this, he'd be very happy if he saw what was going on. And there's some very good people because they speak at Turning Point quite a bit. And Charlie would call me up. So the last time I spoke to him, he said, sir, and I think it was Phoenix, sir, could you get to Phoenix? This was like in a day. I said, charlie, I'm the President of the United States. You're calling, asking me if I could speak tomorrow in Phoenix. You can't do that to me, Charlie. But usually I ended up going, he was great. He was a great guy, and he didn't deserve this. He didn't deserve this, believe me. Omar, after his assassination, called Charlie Kerr.

[Stephen Miller]

A reprehensible human being.

[Donald Trump]

Should she be stripped of her community assignments? I would. I would say I think she's a disgraceful person. You know, I think she's a disgraceful person, a loser. It's amazing the way people vote. I know it's people from her area, maybe of the world, I don't know. They got here and they vote her in. It's hard to believe, but I think she's a disgusting person. And one more question, if I could. A lot of these in recent.

[Stephen Miller]

These trans shooters that we've seen over the last couple incidents. This flag right here is up and down 14th Street. This is what would be the trans flag.

[Donald Trump]

A lot of people are very threatened by this flag. It means a lot of different negative things, violence.

[Stephen Miller]

Would you be opposed to taking this.

[Donald Trump]

Flag down, up and down the streets of dc? Well, I wouldn't be. Then they'll sue and they'll get freedom of speech stuff, you know, so that'll happen. But I would. I would have no problem with it. I will say. And Steve might just mention this. Todd, you might mention it, too, because we're putting out an order. You know, freedom of speech means you can burn the American flag, which I think is horrible. But I noticed something over the last little while. You know, as you do this, you start noticing things that you wouldn't normally think. It really causes unrest and violence when they bury American flag. So the American flag I wanted. Anybody burns the American flag, go to jail based on freedom of speech, goes to jail immediately. But the freedom of speech protected them. Right. And so. And that. That's been argued a couple of times. And, you know, it's one of those things. But, you know, what has it been argued? And we're going to be arguing and I think very soon. And that's the violence they incite violence. So when they, I saw it just yesterday, they burned the American flag, and people that were there were fine. And all of a sudden they're going crazy and there's fist fights. It wasn't in Memphis either. But I will say it incites violence. And I think you go, you just do the exact same thing. Don't use freedom of speech, use the incitement of violence. I mean, it's really, you had to see these people were going at it. And, you know, you could burn other things. If people just sit there, they fall asleep. You burn the American flag and on both sides. But the level of violence I saw this flag burning caused was incredible. It was an incitement. So I hope you guys are going to be able to do that. Pam? Right.

[Stephen Miller]

Well, there's also groups called transtifo, so.

[Donald Trump]

Perhaps if you can label them a.

[Stephen Miller]

Domestic terrorist group, then you, in all reality, you could take that flag down because it would represent the transtifo.

[Donald Trump]

I think you probably could. Again, you'll be sued, and it's okay. I've been sued before a couple of times. You may have seen.

[Reporter]

Anyway, Netanyahu said that he doesn't rule out targeting Hamas anywhere. They are.

[Donald Trump]

You said that you don't want to.

[Reporter]

See Qatar hit again.

[Donald Trump]

Are there any guarantees that Qatar. Well, he won't be hitting in Qatar. As I say, I call it Qatar and you call it Qatar. You're actually more right, but actually you're allowed to go. The emir said you can say it any way you want, but I've always thought of it as Qatar. I think it's a beautiful sound. And actually they've been a very good ally, and a lot of people don't know that, but he won't be hitting Qatar, but he will be maybe going after. Now, there was an article that I read in a newspaper just about an hour ago where Hamas said they're going to use the 20 hostages as human shields. They're going to bring them up from the dark tunnels and they're going to put them in the line of fire so that if Israel goes forward, they're going to die. And I thought that was very terrible, and I put out a statement on that. You saw that.

[Reporter]

Mr. President, in retrospect, given all of the moving ways that this White House has paid tribute to Charlie Kurt, do you think it would have been fitting to lower the flags to half staff when Melissa Hortman, the Minnesota House speaker, was gunned down by an assassin as well?

[Donald Trump]

I'm not familiar.

[Reporter]

The Minnesota House Speaker A Democrat was assassinated this summer.

[Donald Trump]

Well, if the governor had asked me to do that, I would have done that. But the governor of Minnesota didn't ask me. I didn't. I wouldn't have thought of that, but I would have if somebody had asked me. People make requests for the lowering of flag, and oftentimes you have to say no, because it would be a lot of lowering. The flag would never be up. Had the governor of Minnesota asked me to do that, I would have done that gladly.

[Reporter]

And given the killing of Melissa Hortman, the attack on Paul Pelosi, the attack on Gabby Giffords, the attack on the Pennsylvania governor's mansion, why make the case that violence is only on one side? It seems to be taking.

[Donald Trump]

I didn't say it's on one side, but I say the radical. Radical left causes tremendous violence, and they seem to do it in a bigger way. But the radical left really has caused a lot of problems for this country. I really think they hate our country. Okay. Yeah, please.

[Stephen Miller]

This may be related to the RICO.

[Donald Trump]

Work that you're doing, and I'd like to confirm that we are really looking at that. Seriously.

[Stephen Miller]

Vice President Vance was speaking with Stephen.

[Donald Trump]

Miller earlier today about targeting NGOs that they were saying foment violence. Is that that.

[Stephen Miller]

Can you speak more to that? And what NGOs specifically are you looking to target?

[Donald Trump]

S? A number of them. Steve, please.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

Yes. So I believe what you're referring to is there are these nonprofit entities that organize, as the President mentioned, attacks on ICE officers, attacks on Border Patrol agents organize doxing campaigns which are a violation of federal law. They break off cement and they bring into riots. They have organized drop points for weapons, organized drop points for a gas mask, organized drop points for all the materials necessary to launch a riot. And of course, you saw that during the Black. Black Lives Matter rights as well, too. So there's this whole network of organizations, and I think the key point the President's been making is somebody is paying for all of this. This is not happening for free. And so under the President's direction, the attorney general is going to find out who is paying for it, and they will now be criminally liable for paying for violence.

[Donald Trump]

And, you know, a new thing that I've been seeing a lot of lately but never saw before, is they're walking in with bricks and rocks and everything, and the FBI or the Border Patrol or ICE and or the police are grabbing them and taking them away, and that's great. And then they whip out. And then they whip out a hammer and It's a beautiful hammer. Really. It's nice. You know, this is not a hammer. Somebody happens up. These are serious hammers, beautiful, brand new hammers, and they start breaking up the concrete sidewalks and the granite curbs. In many cases, granite is hard to cut. You know, it's very hard stone. And they're banging away and handing out pieces of stone. So instead of having it in bags, they're banging the sidewalk, knocking that. You have to see what some of these sidewalks look like when they finish, and especially the curbs, because the granite curbs are very, very expensive. And they're great, you know, very hard, very. They are almost indestructible, but not when it gets pounded on for 20 minutes by some pretty strong guy and they hand out big chunks of stone so that people can throw them at the police and people can drop them off bridges at the car windows. No, we have a long way to go and we're going to make it all good. We're going to make it really safe. This country is going to be safe. We've got almost three and a half years. Think of that, three and a half years. It's a long time. It goes quickly. But at the end of that time, I hope one of the many things we can say is that we made our cities safe again. Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you.

[Stephen Miller]

Okay, right there. President United States, I would say some pretty blockbuster news, wouldn't you just? President Trump, first off, and you saw the power of this. This is why we've been calling for kind of an organized effort around the antifa as a terrorist organization as a start to get into this investigation, really to get into it and solutions for the situation around Charlie Kirk. The president just said he's going to designate it. Right. As you know, there's been a lot of work behind the scenes on this. So President Trump said right there. Yeah, says I would designate. And they've already got. Looks like Justice Department's pulling together. Rico, we're going to have a couple clips on this in just a second. But today's been explosive developments in the case. But the single biggest thing the folks should understand about what you're seeing out there, this has pivoted now off of just being a sole investigation on one murder, the assassination of Charlie Kirk by one guy who still, as much as they keep throwing up, you know, boom, boom, boom, throwing it in the wall, giving it to Fox, leaking it to somebody, we still haven't had an organized effort, which we're pushing for, to kind of go to a brief One brief by law enforcement, FBI and DOJ to kind of get organized in this and put everything out that's appropriate to be put out. But right there you saw the president states responding to what the war has been calling for from the very beginning. Designate Antifa a domestic terrorist organization or just a terrorist organization. Then you get into the international part of it, as Stephen Miller, the great Stephen Miller said right there on what Antifa is doing out in Portland. You get in back of finding out who's financing all this, who's financing the doxing of the ICE agents, who is financing the nightly takedown, which I think there's eight or ten blocks that you could just declare martial law. And so tremendous developments. President Trump is taking the lessons of DC of which Miller told us the greatest drop in crime in the Nation's history in 30 days. They're in a fight now with Chicago. I say screw it, you should just send them. But they're working that through. They're sending them to Memphis, Tennessee and you saw the entire task force right there, that task force put on Antifa. You're going to have some changes. This is how the radicals are going to get taken out right there with government power. We have a couple of clips. Let's do have time to play it. It's not too long for 651. Let's go ahead and play. We've got some clips on this domestic terrorist situation. Let's go on and play them. We'll come back to the war right after that to turn this into a broader investigation, a deeper investigation. And all we need, all we need is to get, you know, designate Antifa and trans. And the Trans tifa or the Trans tifa, whatever, the subset of this domestic terrorist organizations. Right. And then start what you can do then on financing, what you can do on people that assist them, politicians that assist them. Also maybe you go in a 5 or 6 block area or 10 block square area in Portland and help the poor working class people that are out there every night and declare martial law there and clean up that mess. Remember last night you saw him mocking President Trump on the ice on these brave, brave, brave, brave, brave folks on ice. Incredible.

[Reporter]

Given with all the what's going on with Charlie Kirk's assassination and his 11 violence going on. Do you have plans and actually this is a great, great opportunity with all these. Do you plan on designating Antifa finally a domestic terror organization?

[Donald Trump]

Well, it's something I would do, yeah. If I have support from the people back here. I think would start with Pam I think, but I would, if you give me, I would do that 100% and others also, by the way. But Antifa is terrible.

[Reporter]

Are there other groups that you can make?

[Donald Trump]

There are other groups, yeah, there are other groups. We have some pretty radical groups and they got away with murder. And also I've been speaking to the attorney general about bringing RICO against some of the people that you've been reading about that have been putting up millions and millions of dollars for agitation. These aren't protests, these are crimes. What they're doing where they're throwing bricks at cars of the, of ICE and Border Patrol and they come in a beautiful new car, they're so proud. It's border patrol ice, you know, it's got whatever it is and they're throwing rocks at it. And after 50 yards it looks like an old beat up vehicle. It was just brand new. It was just bought for the purposes. And they don't have to take that anymore. I let it be known we'll take responsibility. They don't have to take it anymore and they don't want to take it. They were told by a past administration, it became almost a culture. If somebody throws a rock at you, do nothing. If somebody spits in your face, do nothing. And I say when they spit, you hit. Do whatever you want. You do whatever the hell you want. I watch it. I watched it so sick it made me for four years I had to sit home and watch people screaming at policemen and spitting in their face and they weren't able to do anything. They just had a grin and bear. They're standing up like a piece of steel. And a woman, in many cases women, you can see, they're professional agitators. I had one the other night. I had four the other night, all in one group, total phonies that started to scream when I got into a restaurant. Oh, you know, something with Palestine. I said, well, I'm doing a great job for peace in the Middle East. I should get lots of awards for that, right? With the Abraham Accords and everything else. But a woman just stood up and starts screaming and she got booed out of the place too. The people, there were a lot of people in the restaurant. I went there to show how safe and it was safe. I mean the woman is just a mouthpiece. All she was, she was a paid, she was a paid agitator and you have a lot of them. And I've asked Pam to look into that in terms of RICO bringing RICO cases against a criminal, RICO because they should be put in jail what they're doing to this country is really subversive.

[Stephen Miller]

We'll play that again in the second hour. President Trump in the Oval Office saying he is open to. And it looks like a lot of nod around the table of guys have been working on it, designating antifa a terrorist organization. What does this do? Remember the three levels of these radical organizations. You have the foot soldiers in front. Those are the skinny guys in mask or the shooter in the Charlie Kirk assassination, or the tranny roommate or the furries, all that. That's kind of the lowest level. They radicalize these kids. They get them into the transgender movement. The dark web does that to transform these kids, to twist their thinking. They're the foot soldiers. Then you have a whole other group of very serious. A lot of special. Not a lot. Some Special Forces and others have been in the military to train these people because they're trained, as Tage Gill says he thinks they'll fold like a cheap suit once you drop the hammer on them. But they're trained and they got. They've got training. They've got. You do have folks in the military. That's the second. That's that second tier. It wasn't extremism or white nationalism. What infected the military is that, of course, Biden in the Biden, Justice Department, Merrick Garland, everybody focused on patriotic Americans. Then you have the third layer, and that's the politicians, the media, the operational aspect and the financing, not just source. And this even deeper and darker than that. And I believe you will find foreign governments that are putting money into this. This is what they're trying to drive the chaos in the United States. You will find if you designate a terrorist organization, you'll have even more powers than criminal RICO to go after them and get all their bank records, freeze their accounts, get all the phones, everything to take this down. That's when you start to have a serious investigation. It becomes much broader and much wider than just some kid that, you know, they transformed into an antifa hater. Right. Because he had a tranny roommate. Right. Who is also happening a furry. And every day they're kind of dripping and dropping. It is not a single murder. There's something here much deeper at play. Remember, we don't believe in coincidences in the war room, particularly the coincidence of the guy just randomly up there asking the question about transgender violence at the very moment that Charlie Kirk is cut down by an assassin's bullet. Not buying it. Gotta break it all apart and get to the bottom of all of it. We're gonna take a short commercial break. We're gonna be packed. President Trump took 40 minutes of our time and you know what? It's the best 40 minutes we spent all day in the war room. President Trump dropping the hammer, sending a task force to Memphis to clean it up. Just like they cleaned up DC Told Chicago, hey, don't think you're off the hook. 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[Donald Trump]

Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

[Stephen Miller]

I'll place some clips in the second hour, but I want to get to this right away. Phil Lyman joins me from Utah. Sir, you ran for governor. You've been very involved in politics. I think one of the things that's disturbing people is Governor Cox, who's up to his neck and I've advocated. Today it hit mediate. It's all over. It's gone viral that he's part of actually a broader investigation with this social, emotional learning what he's done to the school system. Remember, he came on what zoom a couple of years ago during the pandemic I think he was doing DEI and all this transgender. He was talking about pronouns. He gave his pronouns. He's all happy, clappy. One of the issues you're going to find in this investigation is this. They have a big trans problem, I think a terrorist cell. And that's why they're a subset of Antifa. That's why designating Antifa as a terrorist organization is going to get to the bottom of it. But then you had Jeff Flake come on Dana Bash this afternoon, and he's saying, Cox is perfect. Cox is saying what the nation needs to hear. Cox is going to be part of, I tell you, Cox office, dude, you're going to be part. You're going to be investigated because you are part of the problem. You're not part of the solution. Thoughts? Phil Limon?

[Phil Lyman]

Yeah, Steve, I think you said this morning that they're part of the dying Republican Party. That's the side of the Republican Party that needs to go away, because they're not Republicans and they don't have our values. And I'll tell you one thing that I was there on Wednesday. I spoke to Charlie in advance of that, and he brings the party with him, and it was a party. I mean, he's throwing hats. And these kids, they look to Charlie so much. Turns out they don't like being lied to any more than the rest of us do. And when they see things that happen that don't add up, it's hard to. It's hard to fool these kids. They've got their cameras. They're watching these things happen. So I went up top the back of the venue right when the gun. Right when the gunshot happened. Now, I don't know if it was a gunshot. I don't even know what all of that was at this point. But the thing I noticed is that there were some people while everyone was hiding behind the, you know, retaining walls and ducking down and, you know, wondering what's going to come next, there were a group of kids who were not hiding. And it was kind of the lgbtq. I walked right over and I said, and I heard one of them, you know, utter a real nasty epitaph. Not to Charlie Kirk or not. Yeah, not to Charlie Kirk, but to the crowd that's running away, you know, you know, go F yourselves type of thing. And. And I said, was that gunshot not right here? And. And. And they said, yeah, it was right over there. The point being, they weren't afraid. They knew something. They knew something that the rest of the people in that Crowd didn't know they were not afraid. If the gunshot was right over there, if the gunshot was right behind them, why are they not hitting the ground? Why are they not running? Why are they not concerned?

[Stephen Miller]

Hold it, hold it.

[Phil Lyman]

You know, I was afraid I was going to turn into mass shootings.

[Stephen Miller]

Hang on, hang on. Where is this coming from? Hang on, hang on, hang on. Slow down, slow down. I want to hit rewind. And we're going to keep here, wait a few minutes. We got Alex DeGrasse coming up the next hour. No, no. So you went because you're a big supporter Charlie, you know him. You went actually to Utah Valley University that day to either see Charlie, and it kind of see and look, it was what, 3,000, 4,000 folks. It's. It's a big crowd. You went down there, right? So talk to me about beforehand as you get there. Take your time. Before. Before the shooting, before anything like that. Was it the typical kind of Charlie at. Charlie at. At the university? Because I think it started noon. He was shot at 12:23. I think it started a few minutes late. But the first part was just Charlie being Charlie throwing the hats out in the thing and getting the kids all. All jacked up to ask some questions.

[Phil Lyman]

Yeah. So I went back, was invited again. These. These Turning point chapters are amazing. And. And I happen to have a really good rapport with a lot of the students. They said, hey, come down. We want you to. We want you to be here. We. We want you to meet Charlie. So I went back with them and. And that was till about 12, you know, about five minutes after 12. I was talking to him right up until then, said, thanks for coming to Utah. So I walked up there with him and all these kids and his, you know, his security detail, and he's throwing out hats and. And I'm just watching and thinking, this is a. This is a magical time and a happy time. These kids are excited. He's blowing kisses to the protesters because there were some of them that were yelling epithets at him. And I thought, this is a really important individual in the lives of these kids, and he's changing lives, and this is an exciting time. We're witnessing these changes. And so I stayed right there until the questions started coming. And then I thought, well, I want to get some of my friends who are still en route, meet them, get them down here, so maybe they can shake Charlie's hand, say hello to him after he's done. So I went back to the far end of the eastern end of the Amphitheater there, which is layered up. So I was up at the top and yeah, so that's kind of what happened up until that point. It's funny because I was standing there next to a young man, he was a handicapped individual. And he said, hey, do you know Charlie Kirk? And I said, I do. He said, can you get me a hat? And I said I can. And right about that time, Charlie was coming and he was chucking hats and you know, thousands of people screaming. And I, and I just raised my hand and said, hey, Charlie, over here. And. And he looked over and I think he looked at me like, like what? You want me to throw you a hat? And he's like, but. And I pointed. And when he saw the individual, he didn't. He was, he was almost to throw the hat. And when he saw the individual, he stopped and he came over and he handed it to him with the biggest smile on his face. And I just thought that's, that's a class. That's a class act. That's a good, that's a good person. And anyone that is around Charlie Kirk, you feel it. You feel like that's a good person.

[Stephen Miller]

So then, so you're towards the back because you're gonna meet your friends. Cause they're ask. They're doing the Q and A thing. This is the, this is where Charlie takes on everybody and lets the people disagree up front.

[Donald Trump]

Right.

[Stephen Miller]

You're still only a couple minutes into it. I think he is only to the first couple questions. Then tell me what happens when you hear. Do you actually hear what you believe is A. And it's tiered so you're all the way towards the back. Is that where you. I tell you what, Phil, can you hang on for a second? We're going to go to a short commercial break and I want to make sure we take plenty of time to delve into this because as I said at the very first, remember, we went out to. We went out to Utah right away. Poso was going to come with us. We left right after Charlie was shot or after the evening show. I think we pre recorded the first second part of it and took off right after 5 o'. Clock. Poso was going to come with us. But Poso, I thought we'd better deploy him. He was doing a lot of media, the CNN hits and all these hits to make sure he got the word out on Charlie. So we flew out there where we spent I think three days in Utah. And it was kind of a wake up call for us about a lot of what's going on there. Don't think that Utah, don't think Utah is the Utah you remember of being like the reddest of the red states. It's just not true. But a lot of people could tell immediately there was a lot more in back of this and questions weren't being answered and the videos just didn't make sense. And that's why we started to, you know, contact people we know in the government and the administration and let our voices be heard. Plus, on the show and the war on Posse was amazing. You were lighting people up. We got to get to the bottom of it. The president of the United States in the Oval Office says not just he's open to, he's kind of going to do, he's going to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization and have a full throated deep investigation of what's going on. Phil Lyman's story. Pretty shocking when you hear an eyewitness account of what the huh? The furries and the LGBTQ weren't afraid of the gunfire. All next in the war room. You missed the IRS tax deadline. You think it's just going to go away? Well, think again. The IRS doesn't mess around and they're applying pressure like we haven't seen in years. So if you haven't filed in a while, even if you can't pay, don't wait. And don't face the IRS alone. You need the trusted experts by your side. Tax Network usa. Tax Network USA isn't like other tax relief companies. They have an edge, a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which ones to avoid. They use smart, aggressive strategies to settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. Whether you owe $10,000 or $10 million, Tax Network USA has helped resolve over $1 billion in tax debt. And they can help you, too. Don't wait on this. It's only going to get worse. Call Tax Network USA right now. It's free. Talk with one of their strategists and put your IRS troubles behind you. Put it behind you today. Call Tax network USA at 1-800-958-1000. That's 800-958-1000 or visit taxnetwork USA tnusa.com Bannon do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you.

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