
Episode 4781: Taking Apart The Leftist Domestic Terrorist Groups...
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Steve Bannon
This business about you not treating employees properly because I served under the previous administration when Democrats willingly turned a blind eye to Biden administration retaliation against my whistleblowers. They didn't get due process when their careers and lives were upended. I'm talking about people like Dina Perkins, Jeffrey Veltri, Timothy Dunn were removed from their positions. Several whistleblowers were reported that they targeted FBI employees for their political beliefs by suspending and revoking security clearances. One FBI whistleblower said that Perkins, Vetri, Dunnon and other FBI leaderships were, quote, responsible for what happened to me and my family. Ensuring that they no longer work at the FBI isn't retribution, it's responsible leadership. Another whistleblower that is a registered Democrat said they spoke out against abuses and security clearances processes committed by FBI senior leaders, particularly Veltri and Perkins. Then Veltri, then Perkins and Dunn suspended the their security clearances and put them in unpaid leave. I'm going to put some more examples like this in the record so I don't take up a lot of time for my colleagues. You're watching the war room. This is the, this is the Senate Judiciary Committee grilling of Cash Patel, the FBI director. We're going to follow this. A lot of news going on this morning. We'll jump out of this maybe momentarily. Let's go back to it.
Donald Trump
How to be an FBI agent. You've made a decision that local law enforcement folks, people who've served in law enforcement without a college degree are able to apply now, is that correct?
Political Analyst/Commentator
Yes, sir.
Donald Trump
Makes sense to me.
Steve Bannon
So experience out in the field might.
Donald Trump
Be as valuable as the college degree, believe it or not.
Steve Bannon
Venezuela.
Donald Trump
We're blowing boats out of the water in the Caribbean. Hang on.
Steve Bannon
Because they're connected to international narco terrorist.
Donald Trump
Groups, is that correct?
Political Analyst/Commentator
Yes. That mission is being led by the.
Steve Bannon
Department of Defense, sir.
Donald Trump
Okay. What legal authority do we have to do that?
Political Analyst/Commentator
Sir, I would defer the questions on legal authority to the Attorney General and the Department.
Donald Trump
Fair enough. Do you believe that.
Steve Bannon
Maduro runs a narco terrorism state in Venezuela?
Donald Trump
Based on.
Political Analyst/Commentator
I believe based on the intelligence and prosecutions and investigations we are currently running a large portion of the cocaine that exits out of South America. Its origination point is in Venezuela. And using transshipment points through Haiti, they're using the navigable waterways in the Caribbean to the end state delivery, which is the United States of America. And we will hunt down every single one of those narco traffickers with the authority.
Donald Trump
There's some actual indictments of Maduro as an individual for being involved in that.
Political Analyst/Commentator
Is that correct, Senator? I think you're referring to the DEA indictment on that one.
Donald Trump
Right. So I guess the point is, would it be fair to say that Venezuela is a good candidate to be labeled as a state sponsor of terrorism under.
Steve Bannon
US Law center from.
Political Analyst/Commentator
From my perch, we will provide the intelligence necessary for anyone who meets the threshold to be a state sponsor of terrorism in this administration.
Donald Trump
I think they are. So we'll be going down that road.
Political Analyst/Commentator
China. On a scale of 1 to 10.
Donald Trump
1 being nothing, 10 being great, how is China helping with their fentanyl problem? Here in the United States under this.
Political Analyst/Commentator
Administration, we have taken, as I highlighted the Cincinnati case, the precursors are the problem. The fentanyl is the end state that kills American citizens.
Donald Trump
Precursors are made in China.
Political Analyst/Commentator
They're made in China. And so for the first time in a decade, I had a call with my counterpart in the MPS that they Ministry of Public Services to attack the precursor chemical companies and have those labels, have those chemicals labeled.
Donald Trump
It's too early to rate the success.
Political Analyst/Commentator
We have indicted multiple businesses in China. We've also cut off the transshipment points of those precursors. They switched once we got on their track about their delivery routes to the Mexican drug cartels directly, they started going to India. We call the Indian authorities and they shut down those transshipment points. So we're continuing to work with our partners. China is helping. Would you say they are starting to help?
Steve Bannon
We're going to go back to. We're going to monitor, particularly the Democrats. We're going to monitor Cash's updates on the assassination. There was also some questions early on. I'm not sure the early show got it about the Epstein files. And we'll play that also. Let's go. The president States is en route to the United Kingdom. He's going to have a state visit at Windsor and in checkers. Somehow I thought it was Chartwell. I was going to Churchill's house. Now he's going to the house of the prime country house of the prime Minister. Not going to London. In fact, not going within 25 miles of London. I think that's a big tell. The president did a gaggle. We're going to take it in its entirety. Let's go to the gaggle. The press availability the president had before leaving the White House. Let's go ahead. We're going to play it in its entirety. Let's hit it.
Donald Trump
The ground offensive is now underway in Gaza City. Your reaction? We're going to See what happens. Because I hear Hamas is trying to use the old human shield deal, and if they do that, they're going to be in big trouble. They're going to be in big trouble. They put it out two days ago that they're going to use the hostages as human shields. That's something that hasn't done for a long time. You know, let me tell you, if they do that, they're in big trouble. Do you believe the Federal Reserve is an independent body? What do you think about the independent? Oh, it should be. It should be. But I think they should listen to smart people like me. I think I have a better instinct than him. If you look, all the economists got it wrong. I got it right along with one other people out of 100. So they should listen to people that are smart. Nothing wrong with that. But they have to make their own choice. But they should listen.
Steve Bannon
To Asian speak.
Political Analyst/Commentator
To Prime Minister Netanyahu. What about the idea of Israel beginning this ground offensive in Gaza City? Do you support that?
Donald Trump
Well, I have to see. I mean, I don't know too much about it. I can tell you that if they put the hostages in front of them, Hamas as protection, as they call them, bodyguards, Hamas is going to have health affairs. Your trip to the uk Your trip to the UK today, what do you hope to achieve? What? My relationship is very good with the UK And Charles, as you know, who's now king, is my friend. And it's the first time this has ever happened where somebody was honored twice. So it's a great honor. And this one's at Windsor. They've never used Windsor Castle for this before. They use Buckingham palace. And I don't want to say one's better than the other, but they say Windsor Castle is the ultimate right. So it's going to be nice. But basically up there also on trade, they want to see if they can refine the trade deal a little bit. We made a deal and it's a great deal, and I'm into helping them. Our country is doing very well. We've never done this well. We're making. We're having trillions of dollars coming because of the tariffs. They'd like to see if they could get a little bit better deal. So we'll talk to them. But primarily it's to be with Prince Charles and Camilla. They're friends of mine for a long time, long before he was king. And it's an honor to have Ms. King. And, you know, he's. I think he represents the country so well. I watch he's such an elegant gentleman and he represents the country. So after Robert Redford passed away today, did you hear about this? Wow. Sleep at his home. Well, that's a good way to go, I guess. But I'll tell you, Robert Redford was great. He had a. He had a series of years that he was. There was nobody better. This just happened, I guess. Huh. Wow. You died in a car. You calling it sleep. And what movie would you say you liked the best in? Well, you have a lot of them. Honestly, he made. I'd say he made seven or eight great movies. They were really great. There was a period of time when he was the hottest. I thought he was great. Are you going to delay the TikTok ban? Well, we have a deal on TikTok. I've reached a deal with China. I'm going to speak to President Xi on Friday to confirm everything up. We made a very good trade deal and I hope good for both countries, but a very different deal than they've made in the past.
Political Analyst/Commentator
What companies are going to.
Donald Trump
We'll be announcing that we have a group of very big companies that want to buy it. And, you know, the kids wanted it so badly. I had parents calling me up. They don't want it for themselves, want it for their kids. They say if I don't get it done, they're in big trouble with their kids. And I think it's great. I like. I hate to see value like that thrown out the window. So, on auto. So auto executives, you know, you're talking about tens of billions of dollars.
Political Analyst/Commentator
Some auto executives are concerned that compromising.
Donald Trump
The 15% for auto tariffs coming in hurts American automakers. What do you say to. Well, I haven't compromised anything. Where did I compromise? Going down to 15%. Going down to 15%. We charge. We charge. And where did the 25 come from? It came from there. You tell me. Yes. Or, you know, they paid nothing for years. Now they're paying 15%. And some things can pay more. Like chips could pay more. Pharmaceuticals could pay more. You know, there's a bigger margin with a car, you have to make 15% before you make a profit. Pretty tough. So we had a great deal. Don't forget, European Union is paying our country, because of tariffs, $950 billion. Think of that. We're talking about a year. $950 billion. Japan is paying us $650 billion. These are companies, these are countries that paid us nothing until I came along. And China is paying us a tremendous tariff. You know what the tariff is right you know what the tariff, they're paying it, so it's 30% for the fentanyl as well as whatever for the 301, 20% for the fennel. But the overall is about 55%. Okay, that's as opposed to nothing. Would you say that's a difference? We have a big decision coming up, and if the Supreme Court rules the way, hopefully they will, because, I mean, every legal expert said we win that case, but you still have to watch. And the Supreme Court's been terrific. You know, I think they're very fair. All I want is fairness and we win. But if we win the Supreme Court case, which is the finalization of tariffs, we will be by far the richest country anywhere in the world. And we'll be able to help our people more and we'll be able to help other countries when we want to. But I will say if we win that case, our country, you see what we've taken in just on a temporary basis. We've taken in trillions of dollars, trillions with a T, and we will be by far the richest country in the world. There'll be nothing close. And, you know, one other will have tremendous power to negotiate the use of tariffs. I settled seven wars. Four of them was because I was able to use tariffs, hopefully. Oh, definite, in an interview, criticized the fact that some CEOs make hundreds of times more in salary than average workers. He's worried about polarization. Do you share that concern? Well, I do say there's a big gap. I do say that. Don't forget I'm a popularist. There is a big gap. Mr. President, Mr. President, it's been a month, a month on. Do you think that meeting accomplished what he hoped? Yeah, accomplished a lot. But it takes two to tango also. You know, those are two people, Zelensky and Putin, that hate each other. And it looks like I have to sit in the room with them because they can't sit in a room together. There's great hatred there. But no, that meeting accomplished a lot.
Political Analyst/Commentator
Mr. President, you have confidence in past propelled. What are you hoping comes from his.
Donald Trump
Testimony on the Hill tonight? Well, first, first of all, I think that Pam Bondi has done an unbelievable job and everybody agrees to that. And cash, you know, if you look, take a look at what he did with respect to this horrible person that he just captured. He did it in two days. It took other similar cases. Four days, five days, four years. If you look at certain shooters. Now, I have confidence in everybody in the administration, my administration, and a lot of people are saying it, not just me. It's so far the best administration ever formed. You look at our financial people, our country is making a fortune. We have to keep tariffs because our country has become successful because of tariffs. We have the case in the Supreme Court. That's a very vital case for the success of our country. It's very vital to negotiate with other countries. And remember, other countries charge U.S. tariffs. That's a very, very big case. And if we win that case, our country will be by far the richest country anywhere in the world. And then we can help our people. We'll get rid of debt. We'll get rid of everything. We can help our people and we can even help other countries where they need it. Mr. President, narcotics in Venezuela. Narcotics in Venezuela. President Maduro in Venezuela says that you're getting ready to invade his country. What is his message to him? Well, I would say this right away. Stop sending trend to the United States states. Stop sending drugs into the United States. We knocked off actually three boats, not two, but you saw two. And the problem is there are very few boats out in the water. There are not a lot of boats out on the water. I can't imagine why. Not even fishing boats. There's nobody. Nobody wants to go take a fish. So it's one of those things. But I would say to them very strongly, stop sending people from your prisons into our country. They're sending their prisoners. They've done that already. So the numbers just came out. Another month with zero people getting into our country. And these are figure, John, with people like you that would like me to do badly. Nobody has ever done on the border like I've done. Mr. President, what will you tell President Zelensky if you meet with him in New York? What will you. Well, he's going to have to get going and make a deal. He's going to have to make a deal. Zelensky is going to have to make a deal. And Europe has to stop buying oil from Russia. Okay. You know, they talk, but they have to stop buying royal from Russia. Occupied the White House. How much wealthier are you now than when you return to the White House? Well, I don't know. The deals I made for the most part, other than what my kids are doing. You know, they're running my business. But most of the deals that I've made were made before. And that's what I've done for life. I built building like I'm building a building here. You know where I built. You know what. You see that area? Yeah. That is going to be the greatest ballroom anywhere in the world. And for 150. So it gives me pleasure to do it for the country. And I'm paying for it. I'm paying for it. The country is not. And that's an expensive ballroom. I think it'll cost $250 million and it will be, I think, the finest ballroom. So for 150 years, John, do you know this? They've wanted a ballroom and now they're going to finally have it and it's going to knock your socks up. But it's an appropriate President Trump, then a president in office. Office should be engaged in so much business activity. Well, I'm really not. My kids are running the business. I'm here. You know what the activity. Where are you from? I'm from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, Four Corners Program. The Australians. You're hurting Australia, right? In my opinion, you are hurting Australia very much right now. And they want to get along with me. You know, your leader is coming over to see me very soon. I'm going to tell them about you. You set a very bad tone. Go ahead, John. You can set A nice quiet. Mr. President, what are you hearing about the operation in Gaza, the Israeli operation? Are you concerned? Well, I'm hearing that they want to go in and I'm also hearing that Hamas wants to take our 20 hostages, plus dead bodies. You know, they have about 32 of them and they want to put them in the way of any attack. And nobody's happy about that situation. It came out yesterday. I'm sure you saw that they want to. Supposedly they've taken the hostage out of deep caves and tunnels and they're bringing them, putting them on the front line. Nobody's heard of that one for a few centuries. You saw that the UN said that Israel is guilty of genocide and have committed acts of genocide in Gaza. They voted on that.
Steve Bannon
They new report out saying multiple acts of genocide.
Donald Trump
When it comes to a vote, we'll see what happens. That'll come to a vote, but we'll see what happens. And what do you think Pam Bondi.
Steve Bannon
Think she's going to go after hate speech?
Donald Trump
Is that. I mean, a lot of people, a lot of your allies say hate speech is free speech. We probably go after people like you because you treat me so unfairly and say you have a lot of hate in your heart. Maybe they'll come after ABC. Well, ABC paid me $16 million recently for a form of hate speech. Right. Your company paid me $16 million for a form of hate speech. So maybe they'll have to go after you. Look, we want everything to be fair. It hasn't been fair. And the radical left has done tremendous damage to the country. But we're fixing it. We have right now the hottest country anywhere in the world. And remember one year ago, our country was dead. And now Washington D. Is D.C. is fixed. And I f. The mayor was fine, the mayor was just fine. Okay? The mayor had the sick city for many years. He's been mayor for many years. The one that fixed it was me and my people. And it is so safe. You should take your beautiful wife tonight and have dinner down there. You won't be shot, you won't be accosted. You won't even be looked at incorrectly by anybody. Washington D.C. is safe. Now we're going to Memphis, where it's pretty rough, to put it mildly. And then we're going to have to go. A friend of mine who is a big railroader, he stops at all the cities. He knows every city. He said, sir, you have to save Chicago. So I'm going to go to Chicago early against Pritzker. Pritzker. Pritzker is nothing. If Pritzker is smart, he'd say, please come in. So last week, over the last week And a half, 11 people in Chicago were killed, murdered, and 38 were shot. And then Pritzke. And by the way, this is going on constantly. If they lose less than six or seven people a week with murder, they're doing a great job in their opinions. Chicago is a death trap. And I'm going to make it just like I did with D.C. just like I'll do with. With Memphis. Now, remember this. So a man comes into my office, one of the biggest businessmen. I'll tell you, he runs Union Pacific, is that big. Biggest railroad in the world, I guess. And he started off as a railroader. He was running a railroad, a little caboose. He was in a caboose. Now he runs the whole damn thing. 45 years ago, he started off in a cabo. I don't know what that's all about. And he became the top. So that's a good place to start. But he came in, he knows the country intimately. He's looking to do a merger by another railroad. The one that we're at, the little problem in East Palestine, right? And they want to buy that railroad, as you know, Republic. But I sat with him and I talked. I said, so you know every city? Yes, sir, I go into every city and I have for 45 years. I said, where would you go Next? He said St. Louis is in big trouble. Said, but Chicago is a great city. You can save Chicago, sir. Don't let Chicago die. This is a guy telling me with great knowledge and strength, he said, don't let Chicago die, sir. It's dying. Don't let it die. I'm going to Chicago next. The UAE. The UAE, Mr. President, what do you think they want we need to deal with? Well, I just want something to happen. Whether it's federal, states, most likely it's going to be states. The question is whether or not we overlap with a federal judge. So they're looking at that. But the state is very competent. The governor is doing a very good job. As you know, they have the death penalty. It's a tough death penalty too, as you know, but they have the death penalty. So as to whether or not we judge, we will be working with them. We may or may not be able to judge. When it comes to. For the governor of Utah, what do you make of his overall message of non violence? Well, I agree with it. I agree 100%. But most of the violence is on the left.
Political Analyst/Commentator
He said that social media is a cancer. Do you agree with that? The Utah governor said that social media is a cancer and more people should log off and take some time away.
Donald Trump
Well, it's not a cancer in all respects. In some respects it's great. But there are segments, there are deep dark holes that are true.
Political Analyst/Commentator
Cancerous.
Donald Trump
Absolutely. Beyond cancer, the death. Well, that was a great decision. It was a rigged case to start off with. It's great. The court just ruled that she is a disaster. She was a disaster with a boyfriend. The boyfriend that she paid a billion dollars for his expertise, but he never did it. Now she should be prosecuted. She was a. What she did to people, Forget about me. What Fannie Willis did to innocent people, patriots that love our country. What she did to them by indicting them and destroying them. She should be put in jail. She's a criminal. Fanny Willis is a criminal. Will you apply more pressure to EU and NATO countries not to purchase Russian oil? I do, but here's the problem, you know, problem. They're purchasing Russian oil. I don't want them purchasing Russian oil. And they've got to stop immediately. Not fair to us. They're purchasing Russian oil and we have to, you know, do things. Now, the nice part, we don't. It doesn't cost us anything anymore, you know that they're paying. They are buying everything from us. Unlike Biden, who gave away $350 billion. We actually make money, but I don't want to make money. You know what I want? I want that war to stop because last week 7,018 people got killed.
Political Analyst/Commentator
Thank try to part. You were targeted today.
Donald Trump
Just now.
Political Analyst/Commentator
You announced 70 Patriots in Ukraine two months ago.
Donald Trump
Where are you from? Ukraine. Yes.
Political Analyst/Commentator
Will they come and do you know when they will come? The Patriots.
Donald Trump
What will come?
Political Analyst/Commentator
The patriots. You announced 70 Patriots to Ukraine two months ago.
Donald Trump
Look, let me just tell you, I love Ukraine. I love the people of Ukraine. That's why I asked. I thought that was a little Ukrainian accent. But the country's in serious trouble. It should have never happened. It's a war that should have never happened. My country's in very serious trouble. But I'm going to get it stopped. I've done seven, seven countries. I've stopped seven wars in the last eight months. I thought that would have been the easiest because I know Putin, but it's not because there's tremendous hatred between Zelensky and Putin. Tremendous hatred between Zelensky and Putin. But we're going to get it stopped.
Political Analyst/Commentator
How soon will you go to the Supreme Court to stop? Lisa Klobuchar.
Steve Bannon
The president waiting for the first Lady. They are heading out to Marine One. Let's hold that shot as long as we can. He just had a press available about 16 minutes. As you know, here in the war room, we love the president. We don't always agree. I think last night he was criticizing Governor Cox this morning, doing a great job at the. That's, that's a, you should understand that's a President Trump throwaway line. A lot of information there in the press avail. As President Trump, as President Trump talked on a range of topics, everything from the ballroom to the trip to the United Kingdom. There they're getting on Marine One. They will go. In fact, they've already gone. Air Force One has left, but they're heading towards Andrew's Air Force base, not Joint Base. Andrew Crew, Andrews Air Force Base. There we are right there. President, United States. He's very much, he's very much looking forward to this trip. But let's give her a little reality check here. The president's going to Windsor for the first time. The normally Buckingham Palace. He's going to Windsor, which I think is spectacular. The president is very excited. The customs and tradition of, of Windsor. He's obviously very close. He was very close to Prince Charles. That's a known fact. And I realize a lot of folks in this audience are not exactly big fans of King Charles. But the President's got a wide range of friends and associates, particularly from his life before he got into politics, from Windsor and they're going to have all kind of state functions there. I think they're going to, I think they're going to troop the guard. They're going to have a state dinner, which President Trump and the First Lady I know are looking forward to. The next day he's not going to be at Churchill's Chartwell, he's going to be at Checkers, which is the traditional home country home of the Prime Minister. And interestingly, when Churchill was out of power in the 30s of what they called the years in the wilderness, he actually set up a Chartwell. He bought a country place, Chartwell, quite beautiful, that he really ran kind of a government in opposition. He was very much of a hawk about the Nazis and he was the guy that really called the shot. It was a called shot about Hitler's rise to power. He was always right, but he was an outsider. He had very little political stroke. And then when he became prime minister, he used Checkers exclusively. I'm not so sure he went back to Chartwell more than a couple times during the war. And then afterwards it was really. Chartwell was his house. President Trump loves all that, loves the history of it. He'll spend it the next day at Checkers with Starmer. Starmer is on the ropes. I'm not sure a whole lot of politics is going to take take place. I mean Starmer is really, I think at 11% popularity, it should be noted. And this is why we've been such, we've been such hammers here about designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization or just a terrorist organization. Want to do a general terrorist organization, get into the international finance easier. It's a gateway in to getting this thing solved. Mangione was just the terrorism charges have been dropped. He's getting another, I think another Raymond today or additional Mangione items. Also, we understand at 5 o' clock today the alleged assassin in the, in the assassination of Charlie Kirk will be arraigned in Utah. I believe now that was going to be Zoom. I don't know why, if he can't protect this guy against the. Was it the arm, what are they called? The Armed Queer Group. This is the official title of Utah. Then you might as well give it up. So that's going to happen at 5:00 Eastern Time today. We'll probably show that Cash Patel is getting grilled over by Democrats in the, in the Senate Judiciary and We're going to return, try to play as much as we can, particularly any nuggets coming on the assassination. The biggest news I think behind the scenes is to get this. You heard JD Talk about it, what he sat in for Charlie Kirk on the Charlie Kirk show yesterday, had Stephen Miller come in. There's a, I think now a pivot, a whole government approach on these terrorist networks. And you're starting to see the mainstream media really start to yelp about this. Hey, tough break. It's more than years that we should have gotten into this because they are terrorist networks and they need to be taken apart brick by brick. The first way you do that is investigations of every layer. The layer that is the foot soldiers, the layer that is the I think specialists, a lot of military specialists, maybe contractors in the layers there that's the most important and that is the political operatives, the media figures. There will be media figures rolled up in this and the money, and where the, where's the money coming from? So a ton of controversy. On a Tuesday in September, the President United States is hurtling towards the United Kingdom for a state visit. He's going to return from that later in the week and then head out and be at Charlie Kirk's funeral ceremony or celebration of life, whatever is your preference on Sunday. And we'll be covering that live as we're doing all the Charlie Kirk vigils, as many as we can grab short commercial break and return in the war room on an on fire Tuesday. In a moment. This July there is a global summit of BRICS nations. 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Political Analyst/Commentator
Today plans broad crackdown on liberal groups. They're saying now they will use the horrific murder of pro Trump activist Charlie Kirk last week as a justification for some undefined whole of government attack on what they always describe very vaguely as the left in this country. I just want to go back to the data and quote it accurately. This is from Cato. Again, right wingers are the second most common motivating ideology beyond Islamist ideology accounting for 391 murders and 11% of the total. The definition here of right wing terrorists includes those motivated by white supremacy, anti abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy and other right wing ideologies. A material support effort or campaign to go after the ideologies that lead to 11% of the murders and to investigate or come up with evidence for the other which makes up 3%. I mean that's an extraordinary and dramatic and controversial thing to say, let alone do but to just apply it to the side that they don't like when as you said, political violence has taken the lives of Democratic state representative in Minnesota Just three months ago did severe damage to the husband of Nancy Pelosi. Gabby Giffords was shot I mean, it is not. Not a problem that only has as its victims people on the right like Charlie Kirk. What do you think? One of the tactic and two of narrowing it to one side. Yeah. So there's like legal issues and factual issues with all of this. And it does remind me of the summer of 2020 when you had similar comments made by the President and then Attorney General Bill Barr about considering sort of, you know, ant Black lives matter as, as. As terrorist or terrorist groups. First of all, there is no authority under U.S. law to designate domestic organizations as terrorist organizations. Foreign terrorist organizations is created by law. The criteria starts, number one, foreign. Right? It's got to be foreign. It's got to be a threat, have the capability and intent to commit terrorist acts, and three, be a threat to U.S. u.S. Persons or U.S. national security. So you don't meet the foreign criteria. So it would require a new legal regime to even consider something like actual designation that would then trigger the criminal prohibition on providing material support to that designated group. But factually, you're exactly right. And I think this is why people have historically been nervous about creating new counterterrorism changes to tools that would apply domestically. You know, I have previously said we lack, and it remains the truth to this day, we lack a general domestic terrorism criminal offense in the US code. You can. There are 50 some terrorism offenses, but the most common types of terrorism in the US Is a crime committed using a firearm, whether it's a mass shooting or a assassination like we just saw. And unless you are associated with a foreign terrorist organization inspired by that foreign terrorist organization, are targeting a U.S. government official or U.S. property, use of a firearm is not going to be a terrorist offense. And I've at times pointed out this anomaly and the lack of moral equivalency, but I think that it would be. I think it would be very concerning to many people to create new tools. Now, when we see the factual disparity here, when we see the weaponization of. Of this Department of Justice and this present. Because what were those tools? What would those tools be used against? They'd be used against the disliked organizations, whether they actually pose the greatest threat or not. And that is completely antithetical to what Director Wray has testified about many, many times. It's also antithetical the way that the FBI prioritizes its work. It has threat matrix. Right. And those greatest threats have the greatest resources. So. So I think factually and legally, these kind of comments are very concerning.
Steve Bannon
You see, the problem today is with empathy and the problem that we See currently in these last couple of days is the empathy is for the family and friends of the racist person. Does anybody hope that this man's children grow up to be like him or.
Donald Trump
Continue his legacy and his work?
Steve Bannon
Some people empathize because they are not good people themselves. He died disrespecting black people, so I.
Donald Trump
Don'T care about him at all. The world is a better place without him.
Steve Bannon
He gets what he deserves. He's getting what he deserves right now. And it makes me smile.
Donald Trump
Their tears make me smile.
Steve Bannon
Their anger makes me smile because they weren't crying. When they see Palestinian children dying every single day when they lose their parents.
Donald Trump
So why would I cry? Let them see how we feel.
Steve Bannon
See how it feels for people to.
Donald Trump
Not care about you at all.
Steve Bannon
If they want to help, tell their friends and family to stop being racist, then we'll stop being indifferent to. Whatever happens, happens to them.
Political Analyst/Commentator
Charlie Kirk's killing. The Trump administration is threatening now a crackdown on left wing and far left groups. The President is saying that he's now considering labeling the far left anti fascism group Antifa as domestic terrorists. Something actually the President had threatened to do before in his last term in 2020, but has yet, but clearly did not do at that time and is yet to do now. He was asked about this in the Oval Office office. Do you plan on designating Antifa finally a domestic terror organization?
Donald Trump
Well, it's something I would do, yeah. We have some pretty radical groups and they got away with murder. I've asked Pam to look into that in terms of RICO bringing RICO cases against the criminal RICO because they should be put in jail.
Political Analyst/Commentator
So far, no evidence has emerged publicly that Charlie Kirk's alleged killer was working as part of any larger coordinated effort. Effort. The President has repeatedly and incorrectly though, said that the political, that political violence only comes from the left, downplaying violent attacks and rhetoric that span the political spectrum and also target Democrats just as well as Republicans.
Steve Bannon
Jesse, we had one guy, a good friend of mine, who tried to talk to them, who tried to get them to listen to reason, and they killed him. They killed him in cold blood. Charlie tried sitting down and having conversations and many people came, thousands of people came. But there are a group of people in this country, Jesse, there is a, a social cancer, a cancerous ideology that is spread throughout this country. And I'm not just talking about the talking heads. And, and yeah, there's, there's plenty of those as well, but we've seen it with the average people. It's gone mainstream in so many ways to act as if they are completely dissociated with humanity. And what you said about shunning family members and canceling and censorship, that's where it started. And it ended with my friend shot on campus. Tap it in. Okay. There. You see that? The. I could play. You know, there's so many positive vigils for Charlie. Jack Vasovic sticking the landing right there. Do I have the other. Some other preachers were there, too. Do I have that ready to go? Give me a thumbs up when it's ready also. And you see what the. And let's attach the. Let's attach. Let's attach the University of Alabama professor. What they're trying to do. The mainstream media is trying to say, this is a lone wolf. This guy acted alone. There's no terror network. That's an absolute lie. From the Free Beacon to Naomi Walter Wolf to across the board, you're seeing all these tweets and people in discord channels. They knew this was going to happen. They were talking about September 10th being such a important day. And this is why it needs to not just be investigated. We need to go after. And we have both of them together. We have the preacher and we have. And we have. Okay, fine. We're going to play a couple more clips. Let's go and play it. Let's go and play them right now.
Donald Trump
Charlie Kirk did not deserve to be.
Steve Bannon
Assassinated, but I'm overwhelmed seeing the flags.
Donald Trump
Of the United States of America at half staff calling this nation to honor and venerate a man who was an unapologetic racist and spent all of his life sowing seeds of division and hate into this land. And hearing people with selective rage who were mad about Charlie Kirk but didn't give a damn about Melissa Hortman and her husband when they were shot down in their home. Tell me I ought to have compassion for the death of a man who had no respect for my own life.
Political Analyst/Commentator
The suspect's roommate, with whom the alleged shooter had a romantic relationship, is transitioning from male to female. That is what Governor Cox has said. And the roommate, we should note, is cooperating with investigators. But the roommate's gender has sparked so much conversation. I know you're probably aware of this. How are you viewing this topic and how should investigators be thinking about it? You know, I think the kind of simple explanation would be to say, well, the attacker in this case was upset by Charlie Kirk's comments about. About transgender issues. That that would explain why Kirk was.
Steve Bannon
Shot in the very moment he was.
Political Analyst/Commentator
Shot right when it came to what he was saying.
Steve Bannon
And that would explain the motive of.
Political Analyst/Commentator
The perpetrator as well. I think it's probably more complicated than that. Certainly there were potentially tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people who are. Who would consider the things Charlie Kirk.
Steve Bannon
Said to be upsetting.
Political Analyst/Commentator
Very few engage in violence for that reason. And the fact that, you know, this suspect apparently did this without even the.
Steve Bannon
Knowledge of his roommate suggests again, that.
Political Analyst/Commentator
It was not some sort of like conspiratorial or collective effort, but rather the.
Steve Bannon
Acts of a lone individual.
Donald Trump
I am sorry, but there's nowhere in Bible where we are taught to honor evil. And how you die does not redeem how you lived. You do not become a hero in your death when you are a weapon of the enemy in your life. I. I can abhor the violence that.
Steve Bannon
Took your life, but I don't have.
Donald Trump
To celebrate how you chose to live.
Political Analyst/Commentator
I am.
Steve Bannon
Overwhelmed. Okay, folks, I know it's been overwhelming with the vigils and the prayer vigils has been. Been nothing short of historic throughout the world. But understanding going to a prayer vigil, unless you're signing up to fight this fight, you know, prayers are obviously very powerful and that people are having a great awakening, a spiritual moment. It's very, very powerful. But understand this. Just understand. Let me give you signal, not noise, the hate. That because they wanted to wait a day or two and they're trying to spin it, that they're not guilty of anything. It's a lone wolf. Oh, and you know, the roommate, he didn't know anything about it, but he's cooperating. He knew every. Trust me, that dude knew everything about it. Yes, he's a dude. Not some. Don't give me the transition. He's a guy, okay? He's a guy. A perverted, demented guy. And people got to start talking about the parents involvement here. I'm just saying. Also, Cox, your administration and I appreciate the president saying some nice things about you. Mr. President, we could not agree more. We could not agree more. The Cox administration is up to their neck and whatever this network is out in Utah and Cox has bought into this social, emotional learning. His wife is a big proponent of this. You're helping to ruin Utah. And people got to. What we're going to use this platform is an open discussion of what's happening to Utah with these California folks moving in and the more traditional Mormons being overwhelmed. And this cuts to the heart of the Mormon Church and what's going on with the Mormons right now. So we ain't going to back off any of it, including they're all domestic terrorists. Short break. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, the real crisis is personal debt. Seriously, you're working harder than ever and you're still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. Bills you need. Done with debt and here's why you need it. The credit system is rigged to keep you trapped. Done With Debt has unique and frankly, brilliant escape strategies to help end your debt fast so you keep more of your hard earned money. Done With Debt doesn't try to sell you a loan and they don't try to sell you a bankruptcy. They're tough negotiators that go one on one with your credit card and loan companies. With one goal, to drastically reduce your bills and eliminate interest and erase penalties. Most clients end up with more money in their pocket month one. And they don't stop until they break you free from debt permanently. Look, take a couple of minutes and visit DawnwithDeckcom. Talk with one of their strategists. It's free, but listen up. Some of their solutions are time sensitive, so you'll need to move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com. stop the anxiety, stop the angst. Go to donewithDebt.com and do it today.
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Philip on there's so much going on with the assassination, the terrorist network, so much that we've had to push Philip for a couple days and getting back on the next couple of days, particularly since we're talking about Sierra now you've got to go after the deep state. Where are the prosecutions? Remember, got tons of subpoenas backed up somewhere. I don't know. That coupled with that, that dual act action proceeding on the deconstruction of the the administrative state in the deep state, both by firings, downsizing, which we're fighting in court right now. President Trump's Article 2 powers also investigations in the Comey Brennan, all of them. I think that's slowing down a tad because I'm not so sure they got the lawyers to staff it anyway. I'm hearing about hundreds of subpoenas that are kind of in backlog. Then you've also got to designate antifa as a terrorist organization. Let's get on on with it. The reason they're so freaked out and you heard the response, well, you can't do it. Domestic tourists, they don't want Us to get to the part of the media complicity. Yep. There'll be major media figures. You got it. In media platforms also. Not just source, but a whole range of these foreign. Of these foreign billionaires, where their money came from and how it's gotten into the American political system. All of that. And teed up for prosecution and breaking apart. Time's a wasting. And I will tell you, President Trump is saying Cox, you know, saying the nice things about Cox. That's fine. President Trump's got to do. He's President of the United States, President of all the people. Here's what the problem is in the comm shop or the White House got to deal with this. You're giving cover to those rhinos and establishment Republicans that haven't done anything for decades and decades and decades and don't want to do anything. Kind of Cox as their new spokesmodel. Right. But they got Thom Tillis. All these guys understand what's going on here. They're just trying to wait Trump out. They're just trying to wait Trump out. They think once Trump's out, it'll all revert back to exactly what they want. So they want to wait Trump out. And you can see as plain as day. So we're either going to be a group hug and agree with. And the hate that's out there, I could play hours, hours and hours of the hate of a good and decent man, of Charlie Kirk. How many men in this country have lived a life of this guy and try to bring people together. And as Jack Bosovic said on Jesse Waters last night, went out of his way to be inclusive in the dialogue and tried to change people's mind through debate and through hearing them out in the most pleasant way possible and then coming back and in debating and putting out additional facts, Charlie Kirk did that. And what they do, they assassinated him. And don't think that was random. This is not the murder of just one man. This is a coordinated, deep conspiracy. And I think you'll find if we get to the terrorist designation, there'll be links on money and phone records, et cetera, and the Reddit channels. And all this back to Butler. The kid at Butler just didn't randomly one day say, you know, I hate Trump and I think I'm going to go assassinate him. Don't think that's just a random occurrence either, because it's not. And if you notice, we haven't seen a lot of pushing up on Capitol Hill to get this in front of anybody.
Donald Trump
Right.
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Date: September 16, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Key Guests: Donald Trump (in press gaggle clips), various political analysts/commentators
This episode of Bannon’s War Room centers on political violence in America, with a particular focus on the recent assassination of Charlie Kirk, the Trump administration’s plans for a “whole of government” crackdown on leftist groups, and the broader debate about designating organizations like Antifa as “domestic terrorist” groups. Through audio and commentary, the show covers hot-button events, ongoing investigations, press reactions, and the political, legal, and societal ramifications of escalated political violence and the administration’s response.
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The episode is urgent, confrontational, and at times openly combative—pushing a narrative of imminent existential threat from leftist groups, and demanding rapid, sweeping government action. There is frequent overlap of political, legal, and personal dimensions, with little separation between tragedy, policy advocacy, and culture war rhetoric. The conversation weaves policy, anecdote, and emotion, maintaining an impassioned, sometimes abrasive, nationalist-populist tone characteristic of Bannon’s War Room.