Episode 4782: Live: Senate Judiciary Hearing Of Kash Patel

Summary

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Podcast Episode Summary

Podcast: Bannon’s War Room
Episode: 4782: Live: Senate Judiciary Hearing Of Kash Patel
Date: September 16, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Main Theme:
This episode centers on the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, alleged domestic terrorism by radical left-wing organizations, and a live Senate Judiciary hearing with Kash Patel. The show explores claims of organized violence, political radicalization, free speech, and deep divides in American political and cultural life, alongside a discussion of Congressional budget battles and claims of institutional corruption.

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Main Topics & Key Discussion Points

1. Allegations of a Domestic Terrorism Movement & Charlie Kirk’s Assassination

• Opening Commentary (A, 00:00–02:07):

  • Discussion about left-wing doxing, claims that these are meant to "inspire someone to murder."
  • Multiple instances of federal workers allegedly celebrating Kirk's assassination.
  • Quote:
    “When you see these organized, doxing campaigns...what do you think they're trying to do? They are trying to inspire someone to murder them.” — Speaker A, [00:15]
  • Last message from Charlie Kirk (as reported): a call to dismantle "radical left organizations" under a future Trump administration.
  • Promise of legal and investigative crackdowns (RICO, conspiracy, insurrection charges) against perpetrators.

• Political Leadership & Unity vs. Action (B, C, D, 02:07–04:24):

  • Critique of officials like Spencer Cox for perceived inaction and calls for unity.
  • Argument that radical groups (specifically Antifa) should be designated as domestic terrorist organizations.

• Bannon on Political Divides & Radicalization (B, 04:30–07:50):

  • Bannon critiques mainstream leaders, blames passivity for current unrest.
  • Claims of deep, fundamental divides in the US:
    “There's nothing to unify around. There's a fundamental basic difference in this country...two thirds of the people are 75% and at 25% of that 25%, let's say maybe 10% are hardcore.” — Steve Bannon, [06:06]
  • Asserts that universities, educational systems are “infested” with radical ideologies.

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2. Senate Judiciary Hearing with Kash Patel

• Investigation Updates (E, 07:50–08:05):

  • Ongoing investigations into the chat rooms and individuals potentially involved in Kirk's assassination.
  • Confirmation that others could be involved beyond the main suspect.

• FBI Conduct, Politicization, and Retaliatory Firings (D, E, 16:56–22:00):

  • Accusations that current FBI leadership (Patel, as director/official) is engaged in politically motivated firings, possibly under White House direction.
  • Concerns over institutional morale and claims of White House interference: "Has anyone from the White House contacted you about personnel decisions?” — Speaker D
    "For budgetary purposes...yes." — Kash Patel, [20:15] “Any termination at the FBI was a decision that I made based on the evidence...And as you stated, those are allegations. And that is ongoing litigation.” — Kash Patel, [20:49]
  • Patel counters all accusations, insists firings are based only on performance, not politics.

• Political Crackdown After Kirk’s Murder (D, E, 22:00–23:09):

  • Direct questions about whether the FBI is targeting particular political or nonprofit groups post-assassination.
  • Patel asserts no group is targeted at the White House's behest; only criminal activity is being pursued.

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3. Claims of Radicalization among Progressive/LGBTQ Groups

• Allegations of Foreknowledge & Online Radicalization (F, 31:37–32:06):

  • Guest Naomi Wolf summarizes evidence from social media that some trans/LGBT accounts made explicit threats towards Kirk before his death.
  • Quote:
    “It'd be funny if someone like Charlie Kirk got shot on September 10th. LMAO.”
    “I really hope someone evaporates him, literally.” — Naomi Wolf, citing posts, [32:05]
  • Reference to Armed Queers Salt Lake City and possible ties to radical activism.

• Wolf’s Call for Caution (F, 32:06–33:59):

  • Wolf warns against painting all LGBTQ or trans people as criminal, draws parallel to post-9/11 generalizations against Muslims: “Even if…some did horrible things…that doesn't mean that a larger group is criminal. And that's just always true.” — Naomi Wolf, [33:35]

• Bannon’s Rebuttal (B, 08:05–16:27):

  • Doubling down on claims of organized violence, alleged political radicalization through educational and activist networks.
  • Accusations that these are “demonic” forces and repeated calls for government crackdown.

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4. Congressional Budget Battles and Fiscal Policy

• Russ Vought Interview — Spending, Deficits, and GOP Tactics (C, 34:31–42:43):
  • Trump administration's strategy to reduce future deficits through executive actions, rescissions, tariffs, and targeted spending cuts.
  • Claim: projected deficits reduced by $15 trillion over 10 years (“from $32 trillion to $17 trillion").
  • Bannon expresses skepticisms about “bipartisan appropriations” and risks of Republicans compromising with Democrats.
  • Quote:
    "They're all radical...so why are we playing patty cake with them? How are we going to stop this now mind virus of bipartisan appropriations?" — Steve Bannon, [41:02]
  • Vought argues: need pragmatic cross-aisle votes due to Senate supermajority rules but vows continued vigilance on spending.

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5. State-Level Criticism & Educational System Radicalization

• Critique of Texas Universities (I, 50:56–52:08):
  • Brian Harrison denounces the Texas Republican government's alleged funding of "woke, cancerous ideology," including courses on "transgender justice and transgender resistance.”
  • Asserts GOP leadership isn’t correcting the issue, warns of state resources supporting the "next generation of transgender domestic terrorists.”
  • Quote:
    “The Texas government may well be funding the next generation of transgender domestic terrorists and of domestic assassins.” — Brian Harrison, [51:40]

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6. Memorable Quotes and Notable Moments

• Violence & Retaliation

  • "Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people." — Steve Bannon, [03:42]
  • "You want us to live in fear? We will not live in fear. But you will live in exile..." — Speaker A, [01:35]

• On Charlie Kirk’s Legacy

  • "Charlie Kirk Spoke the truth. That was his life was about." — Steve Bannon, [06:46]

• Cautions Against Overreaction

  • “It's such an inflamed moment...but it's really important for us to remember that even if...some did horrible things...that doesn't mean that a larger group is criminal.” — Naomi Wolf, [33:35]

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Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-------------|----------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00-02:07 | Opening on doxing, terrorism claims, Kirk's last message | | 03:42 | Bannon: “Pray for our enemies...going medieval...” | | 07:50-08:05 | Patel: Ongoing investigation, potential wider plot | | 16:56-22:00 | Senate hearing: FBI politicization, firing allegations | | 31:37-33:59 | Naomi Wolf on online foreknowledge, call for caution | | 34:31-42:43 | Russ Vought: Budget strategies, deficit reduction | | 50:56-52:08 | Brian Harrison: Texas universities’ radicalization claim |

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Additional Insights & Context

• Broader Narrative:
  The episode creates a tapestry of perceived threats from within—alleging the radical left is driving violence, that federal institutions (FBI) are politicized, and that educational systems are a vector of “woke” radicalization.
  Simultaneously, it narrates the Trump administration (past and future) as the bulwark against this threat through law enforcement, legislative action, and populist vigilance.

• Memorable Metaphors:

  • “Primal scream of a dying regime.” — Bannon
  • “Bipartisan appropriations = surrender.” — Paraphrased critique

• Tone:
  The overall tone is combative, urgent, at times conspiratorial, and deeply distrustful of mainstream institutions and moderate/unity political rhetoric.

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Conclusion

This episode is a call to arms—both figuratively and, in rhetoric, literally—against what Bannon and his guests interpret as a coordinated, radical left threat responsible for violence and the corrosion of American institutions. It highlights a demand for hardline executive and legislative action, with opposition to both perceived passivity and compromise.

The episode concludes with voices (Naomi Wolf, Russ Vought, Brian Harrison) that—albeit sometimes cautioning against excess—add evidence or urgency to the program’s thesis: that America is at an inflection point, and “unity” is neither attainable nor desirable across such wide ideological divides.

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Transcript

[A]

Of madrasas for jihadism. There is a domestic terrorism movement in this country. When you see these organized, doxing campaigns where the left calls people enemies of the republic, calls them fascists, says they're Nazis, says they're evil, says they have to be removed, and then prints their addresses, what do you think they're trying to do? They are trying to inspire someone to murder them.

[B]

They.

[A]

That is their objective. That is their intent. And when you see online, Sean, as we've seen for the last few days, tape after tape after tape of federal workers, bureaucrats, staffers in the Pentagon, educators, professors, health care workers, nurses celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk, these are radicalized people. There is a domestic terrorism movement in this country. And let me tell you something I'd not share with anybody. But the last message that Charlie Kirk gave to me before he joined his creator in heaven was he said that we have to dismantle and take on the radical left organizations in this country that are fomenting violence. That was the last message that he sent me before that assassin stole him from all of us. And we are going to do that under President Trump's leadership. I don't care how. It could be a RICO charge, a conspiracy charge, conspiracy against the United States insurrection, but we are going to do what it takes to dismantle the organizations and the entities that are fomenting riots, that are doxxing, that are trying to inspire terrorism and that are committing acts of wanton violence. It has to stop. And my message is to all of the domestic terrorists in this country spreading this evil hate. You want us to live in fear? We will not live in fear. But you will live in exile because the power of law enforcement under President Trump's leadership will be used to find you, will be used to take away your money, take away your power, and if you've broken the law, to take away your freedom.

[B]

Sean, Steve Bannon called, talked about you.

[C]

Calling to tone down the rhetoric, saying.

[B]

That the following saying Spencer Cox is a national embarrassment in a time where we need action. He tells us to sing Kumbaya and hold hands with Antifa. This is not a time for trioche. Excuse me, pontificating. This is a time to declare Antifa a domestic terrorist organization and have the.

[C]

FBI go kick down some doors.

[B]

What's your response to Steve Bannon?

[D]

Well, again, Mr. Bannon is angry, and rightfully so. And I'm not saying we have to just sing Kumbaya and hold hands. What I'm saying is we actually should disagree. I think Charlie represented that better than anyone. Charlie said some very inflammatory things, and in some corners of the web, that's all people have heard. But he also said some other things about forgiveness. He said some amazing things about when things get dark, putting down our phones, reading scripts, scripture, going to church, talking to our neighbors. He said that we have to engage. And that's what I appreciate most about Charlie Kirk said if we don't keep talking, that's when the violence starts. Look, there are conflict entrepreneurs out there who benefit from radicalizing us. And I'm not one of those. I don't know that that's particularly helpful. But he is right at this. We need to find out how this happened and we need to stop it from happening.

[B]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[D]

And where do people like that go.

[B]

To share the big lie? MAGA Media.

[C]

I wish in my soul, I wish.

[D]

That any of these people had a conscience.

[B]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my.

[A]

Country, this country will be saved.

[B]

War room.

[D]

Here's your host, Stephen k. Band.

[B]

Tuesday the 16th of September in the Urvalor 2025. We're going to go back and maybe play a highlight reel of of Cash today. If anything big comes on Cash, let me know. The. It's kind of all over the map a little bit. Shouldn't say all over the map. They're doing Venezuela and, you know, various sundry things of the FBI. Not enough drill down on the assassination, as you can tell. Remember, okay, they're trying to tap Trump along. They believe Trump's got his shelf life. This is how. This is how they're thinking. I'm just trying to tell you, you're like me. Oh, no. Trump didn't have a shelf life. He's everlasting. Well, they don't think that. They think they can tap him along and not take any action. This is why. And it's the code words they use. Charlie said some very inflammatory things. You're just feeding into their side. I don't remember anything Charlie Kirk ever said that was inflammatory. Then any kind of riots start with Charlie Kirk. Any kind of crimes start with Charlie Kirk. The inflammatory Charlie Kirk Spoke the truth. That was his life was about. He spoke the truth. He spoke the truth to power. It's the Coxes of the world that have gotten us to this place. Gave this talk to CPI last night about all these people coming out for unity. There's nothing to unify around. There's a fundamental basic difference in this country, I think between, as I've said, forever. Two thirds of the people are 75% and at 25% of that 25%, let's say maybe 10% are hardcore. So maybe more. And it's infested the universities and all of the schools all the way from SEL all the way through college. We're going to get Harrison up here in a minute. The great state of Texas once again got this stuff infested all throughout the college system. And Abbott's not doing anything about it. He's throwing out one student, someone who caused a disruption of vigil and certainly she should be thrown out. The president, Texas, Texas Authority. I've. But come on, man. That's one individual. What are you doing about the systemic problem? And Cox is a perfect. I call him a girly man, passive aggressive conflict entrepreneur. Yo, dude, it's called the war room. Okay, I get it. And I'm quite proud of that because we needed to fight. Remember back in 14 or 15, and guys like you, particularly the Romney crowd, having gotten smoked in 12 of which I told all of them, all the donors said, this guy's got zero chance. I said, the ticket of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, are you kidding me? This is what you're presenting. This is going to win. And all the big donors I knew and all the guys writing huge checks and all the guys went up to the Ritz Carlton in New York. Excuse me, in Boston on election night, folks, you had all these billionaires, they're all sitting up there and they're all ready to go. And Paul Ryan comes in and Paul Ryan, so clueless. Paul Ryan comes in early in the evening and he gives him a talk. He gives him the first hundred days of the Romney Ryan plan to all these huge donors, right? He's got cash on assassination. Let's cut into cash and I'll come back for my rant.

[E]

Currently being investigated and interrogated and a number yet to be investigated and interrogated specific to that chat room. So we are very much in our ongoing posture of investigation.

[B]

So others could have been involved.

[E]

Yes, sir.

[B]

Okay. I asked you this last time you were here. Cash. You remember Mr. Peter Struck and Ms. Lisa Page?

[E]

Yes, sir.

[B]

They were. Mr. Strzok was an FBI agent. Ms. Page was an FBI lawyer. They were both very aggressive anti Trump political activists who allowed their political opinions to affect their work at the FBI. Is that a fair statement?

[E]

I believe their text messages and the testimony that was secured by the OIG and DOJ Speak Self.

[B]

In fact, Mr. Struck and Ms. Page were having an extramarital affair. We'll get that. They're talking about some firings and get into that. We'll summarize that right there. Cash told you. Right. Which we've been advocating. Go to the Discord chat. Go. This. You saw the University of Alabama professor in University Alabama. You ought to be real proud that that beauty is on your faculty, okay? Because not only is he dead wrong, he's one of the messengers. Oh, no, it's a, you know, it's just a lone wolf. You know, his, his. His roommate is cooperating. His roommate. But his roommate didn't know anything. Roommate didn't know anything. Yeah, he didn't know anything. Read the chats. Read the chats of all this. There is a terrorist network out there, obviously. Of these, of these. What is it called? Queer Utah. Armed queer. That's not a term I normally use, although it's a term that's used all the time in the gay community. It's called Queer Armed Queer or Queer Armed Salt Lake. And while we're talking about Utah, there's a big problem out there. I mean, that used to be not just the reddest of the red states. I mean, but the Mormon folks out there were hey based. Right? That's not the case. I'm telling you, it ain't going to be too long before you're fighting for those electoral votes out there because you've had an infestation and that's what Infestation from California of people of. Not Mormons. And then there's inside the Mormon Church. You got some wokeness. It's got to be addressed. You know, Cox, you're supposed to be. So, you know, think. Why don't you talk about the fact that the kid's Mormon, the family's Mormon and you got the kid down. You got the boy down in St. George right down the street from this kid. Another Mormon, Another Mormon family. I think he killed his parents, burned the house down. Another young man transitioning. And let's get to the psychiatrist, let's get to the doctors, let's get to all of it. Let's see the records. Let's get the text messages from all of them. The Notes from their meetings, what they did to these young men. Right. You know, searching for a motive. Searching for him. Still searching for a motive in Minnesota. Hey, I think I've got a thing to look at, the motive. Why don't you look at the manifesto? That guy sent videos and page after page, I mean, he's got a bigger manifesto than the Unabomber. They found the Unabomber's motor pretty quickly, didn't they? Well, hey, that one's up in your face. And that's 115 rounds of a high powered rifle right there. Through stained glass windows, shooting little children in church pews during mass. What could be on the first day of school? What could be more innocent than that? These people are demons. They're demonic. Anybody wants unity and anybody's going to back down now, go ahead and back down, I don't give a damn because we ain't going to back down. And all weekend we got to force it and get this terrorism thing and get into it and find out who's supporting it. And yes, media people, media platforms, well known media companies, prominent politicians and the money. You got the three layers. You look at the three layers, you're looking at the foot soldiers this way. Antifa works. In others. You got the trans thing of antifa, which has been radicalized. And they're quite violent and vicious. You don't think they're violent and vicious. And look at the hate being spewed on Charlie Kirk and the memory of Charlie Kirk and Charlie Kirk's widow and the two little children. Hate, pure, unadulterated hate. They're joyous. You heard an eyewitness yesterday, the guy ran for governor. Phil Lyman, if you haven't seen the afternoon show we had him on for almost an hour, he's there. Here. He had just talked to Charlie before Charlie went out to the tent. He says, here's the gunshot goes up, people are scattering and there's two young college girls sitting there dropping the F bomb. About the crowd. Come on, you don't think that that crowd, there's certain people didn't know something was going down? No, you're absolutely dead wrong. We said this from the very moment it happened. And everybody. No, it's, you know, it's just a lone thing. This is where I get the University of Alabama professor. Hope you're proud down there. Tide roll. Tide roll. You got a propagandist? A propagandist? Oh, it's just. I think it's just a lone wolf. Yeah, well, you would happen to be wrong, bro. You'd happen to be wrong and you're working in the employ of the enemy. Look to all brand up. Oh my gosh, you know, Amy Klobuch or other Minnesota, by the way, we gotta play this gut feel thing. Greg Gutfeld threw down hard. Even finally had a belly full of it. Gutfield said I can't take anymore. Gutfeld called him out. The thing in Minnesota, first of all the guys appointed by waltz number two. That's a personal thing. That's not Charlie Kirk targeted. That's a personal thing between those two people. Okay? We have no earthy idea what it's about. And Shapiro brings Shapiro. Shapiro. It's a pro Palestinian person burning down Shapiro's thing because he's Jewish. That has nothing to do with the right. What are you talking about? It's a pro Palestinian thing. That's a separate deal. Deal with that separately. That's not Charlie Kirk preached the gospel of essentially modern love. Embrace your neighbor and hear him out. Charlie Kirk would put he had the microphone down when the kid was answering and then he picked the microphone up. By the way on transgender violence. Do you think that's just random? Haven't we called for that guy to be interrogated and rounded up? All of them ought to be rounded up. I don't know why we haven't seen those guys. Perp walked into a jail yet. 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[D]

The members of this committee, quote, every FBI employee will be held to the absolute same standard, and no one will be terminated for case assignments. You went on to tell me, quote, all FBI employees will be protected against political retribution. And you assured one of my colleagues that you would honor the internal review process of the FBI. I'm not going to mince words. You lied to us. In the short time that you've been FBI director, you've presided over a rash of retaliatory firings. Three FBI agents have recently sued you. They are FBI agents with 60 years between them of distinguished service, rescuing hostages, saving kids from predators, dismantling drug cartels. And their allegations, their civil allegations, are a searing indictment of your tenure as FBI Director. But it's not just those three. The FBI Agents association has said that your actions, quote, distract agents from their work, foster fear that their assignments could cost them their careers, either now or under the next administration, and increase the risk of criminal and national security threats by undermining unity and morale within the Bureau. End quote. This association, as you know, is voluntary. It represents 14,000 members, 90% of all the active agents. These are your employees saying that your performance has been unqualified and unfit. And there is mounting evidence that these retaliatory firings were the result of direction from the White House. There have been instances in the past year, history of the Bureau, of political interference and political direction from the Director's office, but not the kind of institutional interference that we're seeing from the White House right now. I'm going to ask you, has anyone from the White House contacted you about personnel decisions?

[E]

I completely disagree with your entire premise that I have lied or misleading the FBI. If I were the results, that I announced today by the men and women of the FBI and the historic records we are doing to keep this country safe would not be possible. The men and women of the FBI are responding to our leadership and this administration's priorities. The only way people get terminated at the FBI is if they fail to meet the muster of the job and their duties. And that is where I will leave it. And you accusing me of lying is something I don't take lightly. But I'm not going to get into a tit for tat with you.

[D]

Well, let me just ask you to answer my question. Has anyone from the White House contacted you about personnel decisions?

[E]

Generally speaking, we always discuss with the White House OMB during the budget process, how many personnel we need, who we need, where answer is yes for budgetary purposes.

[D]

People, agents, because they participated in investigations of the President.

[E]

I don't receive directions to do that.

[D]

Has anyone.

[E]

I make decisions.

[D]

Has anyone asked you to do it? The best information is yes. You've taken suggestions and direction from the White House in firing qualified agents.

[E]

Any termination at the FBI was a decision that I made based on the evidence that I have as a director of the FBI. And it's my job, and I'm not going to shy away from it. And as you stated, those are allegations. And that is an ongoing litigation. So they'll have their day in court. So will we.

[D]

The allegations are not just in that lawsuit, Director Patel. And I think your testimony confirms that. In fact, you've taken direction from the White House.

[E]

I don't.

[D]

In those retaliatory firings, it literally does. You've acknowledged that, in fact, they have been in contact with you about personnel decisions.

[E]

The White House has been. Do not put words in my mouth. We're on the record. The White House, like any administration, contacts its agencies on the budgeting process and where it needs personnel and where the mission priorities are. That always happens. If they didn't do that, they would be abdicating the responsibility to law enforcement. I will always work with my partners in the chain of command at the Department of Justice and the White House to ensure that this FBI is delivering the results we are delivering. To include the lowest murder rate in modern US History. To include the most fentanyl seizures in modern US History. To include the most lives saved and the most children found in modern US History. That is a working FBI. That is not a failing FBI.

[D]

Let's move on to a related area in White House discussions. Have you been asked or directed by the White House or others to engage in a Crackdown on political groups or organizations, nonprofits, after the murder of Charlie.

[E]

Kirk, to direct at political organizations? No. I've been asked by my chain of command to properly root out criminal activity, wherever it is, in whatever investigation we are conducting. And that's what we're doing.

[D]

Have those distinctions about whom you're going to target been based on direction from the White House?

[E]

Nobody gives me a list on who to target. My targeting list is from the men and women at the FBI.

[D]

Have you talked about investigating certain groups, nonprofits or foundations or institutions?

[E]

Whatever those investigations are, they're ongoing and I'm not going to get into them.

[D]

Have you used polygraphs to determine loyalty of agents?

[B]

No.

[D]

Have you committed that you will respect the First Amendment rights of agents?

[E]

I have wildly committed to respecting the First Amendment rights of agents. But at the FBI, I don't know.

[B]

Why you're not back up there, Cash. Blowing back on. Blowing back on Blumenthal. Half of the agents should be been fired. Take it full on. Say, hey, you ain't seen nothing yet. Yeah, we are going to give some polygraphs. Suck on that. We can't. You're giving polygraphs over the FBI all the time. It's not about loyalty is, is it? Where are your interest? Trust me, when they do the domestic, when they do the terrorism inquiry, you're going to have many people in the US Government's names are going to come. This is going to be a sweep of the US Government. This is why we're calling for it. You've got the foot soldiers that you see all the time, whether important burning things down or whether they're in, in assassinating Charlie Kirk in, in Utah. Then you got the next layer of bad hombres in the military and the intelligence agencies and law enforcement that train these people and give them information. And then you've got the operating command of the media, of corporate types, of billionaires, of the financing of who's connected and what foreign governments are connected. What foreign governments are connected. You got to get to the bottom of all of it. This is a defining moment right here. I argued last night and as you know, because you're the one that put your shoulder to the wheel to put Trump on your shoulders in January and February 2021 and said, no, no, no, no, no. We're not going to have Ron DeSantis. We're not going to have Nikki Haley. We're not going to. We don't care how long Fox News has banned him. We don't care how long Fox News has banned him. We don't care how much they push all these other people. Trump's the guy. It's the arc of the story of American history. He has to come back and he will come back. That being said, I think you can argue right now with having the House, the Senate, the White House and the courts. You go back and look at the fights we were doing 10 years ago. It's so much darker and so much deeper today. And we are so far from victory. Given everything President Trump has accomplished, sealing the border and everything. Look at the scale of it. Are we talking about mass deportations right now? Are we? Are we? We're talking about rolling up bad hombres, the criminal element, which has to happen. And I agree it should be the first. But we're the mass deportations. The reason is in Portland. They're burning it down every night on anti anti ice these cities. President Trump right now is not going into Chicago. He said that the crime's out of control, but a huge part of it is the illegal alien invasion. Not going there, not in la, not going to New York. And New York's about to be. There's about to be won by a Marxist jihadist. Sadiq Khan, New York division and Kathy Hochul and the demo. I said this back when the kid won, which I said the kid was going to win the primary when he won. And I went to talk to these guys, I said, you are all going to genuine reflect. You're all going to bend the knee to this guy. All of you, all right, are going to bend the knee. Just like a whole bunch of the aristocracy in France bent the knee to the Committee on Public Safety, what was called the terror before they sent them to the guillotine. Money is gutless. Remember that. Money is gutless. It's always gutless. You're seeing this now in all these issues coming out with Charlie Kirk and I want to make an announcement here. We're going to do a real walk through this whole Kirk situation tomorrow. And also, also an update on Netanyahu and what's really gone on in this. In this. In the. What I call the Persian War, right where. And we'll have documented evidence. Stephen K. Bannon in the war room was 100% key wrecked, as I told you. And now we got. Now we got the smoking gun. But you're going to have to hang on tomorrow that. Cuz I need. I need to really walk this through so people fully understand it, because right now it's not totally understood. And there's a not misdirection place. I think not. Perfect information. Russ votes supposed to join us. Give us the bad news. Excuse me. The good news on the cr. There's got to be some good news here, right? Because you got to get 218 votes. Got Naomi Wolf's done a great job of compiling all this, all the Twitter feeds. And people seem to know something was going to happen on the 7th on the 10th of September in the year of our Lord 2025 at Utah Valley University. Tage Gills with us also may have to push Texas to this afternoon. Brian Harrison, Big, big, big problem down these Texas universities. Short break. Back in the worm in a moment. According to the Department of Energy, blackouts could increase by 10,000% over the next few years. It's because of massive energy demand from artificial intelligence data centers. We talk about that all the time here in the war room. 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Back at the West Point of capitalism, back then to teaching globalization. Well, it was great stamping out grand dunes like myself, Naomi Wolf. Naomi, what I love about you, you're kind of a dinosaur. You're a classic. You're a classic free speech liberal, First Amendment right, all that. It's like. But I love you. You've done a daily cloud. You did a great job of compiling. I want everybody to read it. Just all these, I guess, tweets and everything that are out there that now is being reported on by Daily Mail, New York Post, and I think in the hearing today, they're looking at the people, if they didn't have foreknowledge, they were quite prescient in things that might happen at Utah Valley on September 10th. Can you tell us you guys just pulled it from tweets that are out there on the Internet, ma'? Am?

[F]

Sure. So this is a daily clout summary of other sources, and it does appear to be confirmed that according to reports, several trans identifying and LGBT associated accounts posted messages predicting Kirk's death, some explicitly naming September 10th as the day the Washington Free Beacon quoted one of them from September 3rd.

[B]

They're horrible.

[F]

It'd be funny if someone like Charlie Kirk got shot on September 10th. LMAO. End quote. Another allegedly posted quote, charlie Kirk is coming to my college tomorrow. I really hope someone evaporates him literally, end quote, followed by quote, let's just say something big will happen tomorrow, end quote. And as I think you mentioned, the FBI is also examining the role of Armed Queers Salt Lake City, a radical socialist LGBTQ group. And they deleted their accounts, but apparently they once promoted firearms training, Cuban revolutionary trips, and the, quote, armed and militant protection of queer and trans communities. Now, having said all of that, Steve, I really kind of want to issue, you know, I will, you know, a classic caution. And I issued this same caution after 9 11, and I issued it after 2008. You know, about rounding up Muslims, you know, any Muslims or rounding up, you know, any group. I mean, it appears to be confirmed that some trans and LGBT identified accounts have evidence of alleged foreknowledge of this horrific crime. But I Think it's such. I just have to say this. It's such an inflamed moment. Understandably, people like, you know, you and other friends of ours have lost a dear friend, a young father. You know, the tragedy can't be overstated. But at this moment, I just think it's really important for us to remember that even if, God forbid, trans identified and LGBT identified people, some of them did horrible things or were involved in a plot to, you know, hurt or kill the late Charlie Kirk, that doesn't mean that a larger group is criminal. And that's just always true. And, you know, we've got to remember it or our country will.

[B]

Hey, Naomi, Naomi, can you hang on for one second? Just put a pin in that. I'm gonna come right back to you. We got Russ vote live at the White House and he's jammed for time. Russ, people are quite Punchbowl says the day we're gonna get a CR clean, I think it looks like a clean CR that gets us to Thanksgiving. Right? So, as you know, given your time with us in the four years we've been fighting this forever, give us some good news about the cr, if there is any.

[C]

Well, I think there is. And I think the reality is that we have been able to operate under lower levels than a CR because the members put us in a position where we could get the government funded. We're up against another one of those opportunities right now. And in six months, we are $17 billion lower than a CR level. See, how might that be? Because of the things that the president ran on. Rescissions, pocket rescissions. And as a result, we are $17 billion below with only six months. And so as you go forward, CR. I think it's important to think of a CR differently when you have a president who is using executive tools at his disposal that had never been done before. You're certainly not having a deal in. The Biden administration is trying to spend more. And so this is a very critical juncture point. We're hoping that to get this thing passed. I was up working with conservatives today, this morning to encourage them to vote for this. And I think the other thing that's informative is where those on the other side are. I mean, they are going apoplectic about the moves the president, this administration is making to spend less, to save less, to be more efficient. And they're trying to leverage things that have nothing to do with the CR with regard to health care policy. And so we have them in a very good position where they should be with us to fund the government and they are not currently and I think this is important debate that we're going to have. I think this is on the terms of conservatives and that's why I'm excited to be out there encouraging people to be for it.

[B]

Okay, so let's say you know the warm and others say, okay, we got faith in President Trump and Russ and Bessa and these guys and I understand you've done magnificent work with the rescissions, pocket rescissions. But a lot of these are just symbolic. What is the plan if people agree this I okay, fine, November and then this because we're still on Biden's correct me if I'm wrong, we're still on Biden and Pelosi's numbers. What is the plan? Because there's only so much the executive can do. What is the plan with the Republicans on Capitol Hill? SCOTT bessant, TREASURY to get us from you know, with tariffs coming in, other monies coming in, all of this to get us from 6.5% I think of deficit to GDP down to something that's manageable at 3% because governments throughout the world are falling like in France and soon to be in England. His approvals is President Trump's hanging with him at Checkers this weekend is 11%. Right. All because driven a lot because of immigration and finances and paying for it. What then is a people let's say okay fine, you get this year, you get to November. Correct me if I'm wrong, our deficit this year is going to be $1.9 trillion when we finish on September 30th. Right. Just what's the plan?

[C]

Let me zoom out for it's a great question, Steve. You know, it's one that I care and and stay up thinking about. We entered this administration with $32 trillion in deficits over the next 10 years, unrelated to what we've already facing in terms of the national debt as a result of the moves made in just the first eight months and their logical trajectory, we're going to have to fight all those out into the future. But just where we are right now, $4 trillion in tariff revenues coming in to the taxpayer. No one had ever assumed that that was going to be the case. The discretionary cuts that we're on the glide path to be able to change the way the town works and does business, the economic growth we put out a mid session review that said over 10 years that's $15 trillion reduced from that number. That eye popping $32 trillion number that I discussed and including the efforts on the one big beautiful bill with $1.5 trillion dollars in mandatory spending. So we're making major moves. We're in the first eight months. And I would say with regard to discretionary spending, which matters a great deal. I've been on your show for a long time talking about this is the money that funds the bureaucracy. It's what they have a vote on every single year. We're changing 50 years of a paradigm with regard to the notion that 200 years of President just had the ability to spend less. If, if they thought it was inefficient, then the Congress gave them. And I would contest a little bit, Steve, that these are symbolic rescissions. In fact, they are part of calculated moves to be able to reassert the executive branch in a way that you can have separation of powers again. And obviously that's one of those paramount constitutional principles so that a president's budget is not ignored, that you actually have a give and take between the legislative and the executive branch branch. And the appropriations process will work again. Right now the appropriations process is has to deal with the fact that there you need 60 votes in the Senate and you don't have a lot of margin in the House. And so if you're looking for a strategy to get lower spending, and that's what I'm, what's my interest, lower spending, it is to pass these CRs and to continue to do rescissions, pocket rescissions and potentially impoundments with the President has run on. This is a durable strategy and I think it will lead to the budget process and the appropriations process working.

[B]

Okay, so you're saying from the 32 trillion of projected deficits, you've essentially cut that and we still got some more work to do to make sure this is all implemented. But you cut it to 50. You've cut it. You've cut 15 trillion out of that, almost 50%. Okay, one of the things that concerns me is everything you said and look, we 100% support you. We know you're a budget hawk and a warrior on this. There's a term that's been used now for about the last 30 to 45 days that concerns me on all your efforts going forward. Not just with the 60, but there's something seeping in there called bipartisan appropriations and that has not been crushed yet. And it's getting embraced more and more. Bipartisan appropriations means just Republicans. This is the unity thing. Essentially surrendering any logic on the budget and just, and just agreeing with these out of control radical Democrats, which gets back to President Trump's. They're all radical. They're all supporting radical groups. So why are we playing patty cake with them? How are we going to stop this now? Mind virus of bipartisan appropriations?

[C]

Yeah, I think there's a couple of different ways to answer the question. I got a lot of flack in this town for when the Democrats were saying that any rescissions bill was equal to a bipartisan appropriations process and therefore you couldn't vote for a rescissions bill, I thought that was wrong. And that's not how we should be thinking about it. What I mean by it, it's not a call for unity where unity doesn't exist. It's just a recognition of the vote situation in the Senate to fund a bill that's outside of reconciliation. And we tried to move as much through reconciliation as we possibly could. But to move it outside of Reconciliation, you need 60 votes and you have a filibuster to deal with. And so you don't need, you don't want a bipartisan bill of 80, you know, members of the Senate, but you're going to need in single digits of Democrats to come along with you and enact your extensions of government funding. And that's what we're talking about. And our hope is that we'll get someone like a Fetterman. We'll get someone that has, you know, been opposed to government shutdowns in the past. And I think that's important. And for those who are concerned about what the bureaucracies may have, have funded in years past, we will be like hawks to be able to determine what funding needs to be turned off. We already have been and will continue to do so. Love the work that people are doing coming on your show and others to let us know groups that should not warrant federal taxpayer dollars. And we will be constantly on the lookout for those types of things. One of the things I have is my perch at USAID now, but those are the things that we can just unilaterally turn it off. We don't need Congress to be able to do that.

[B]

Russ, where do people go? This is obviously going to be very contentious until now. Until something gets done, where do people go to follow it moment by moment on your social media?

[C]

USVO would be great and we'll be providing all that kind of information there.

[B]

Look forward to having you back, brother. You're fighting the good fight. You're fighting the good fight against quite long odds. Thank you, sir. It's just Reality. I'd like to be able to tell you something different. Simply reality. They don't have the. You know, there's not a stomach up there on the hill to fight this madness. Just not. Short break Naomi, Harrison and Tej all next. We will fight till they're all gone. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the ccp. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, the real crisis is personal debt. Seriously, you're working harder than ever and you're still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. You need Done With Debt and here's why you need it. The credit system is rigged to keep you trapped. Done With Debt has unique and frankly brilliant escape strategies to help end your debt fast so you keep more of your hard earned money. Done With Debt doesn't try to sell you a loan and they don't try to sell you a bankruptcy. They're tough negotiators that go one on one with your credit card and loan companies with one goal, to drastically reduce your bills and eliminate interest and erase penalties. Most clients end up with more money in their pocket month one and they don't stop until they break you free from debt permanently. Look, take a couple of minutes and visit donewithdeck. Com. Talk with one of their strategists. It's free, but listen up. Some of their solutions are time sensitive, so you'll need to move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com Stop the anxiety, stop the angst. Go to donewithdebT.com and do it today. Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Naomi, we gotta bounce. You're doing great work at Daily Clout. Where do people, what's your social media? Where do people go to keep up with these news capsules that that you're doing?

[F]

Thank you so much. So we're over at DailyCloud IO and you can support us and follow us there. And I'm also over on Substack and my substack is called Outspoken. And people should also really check out legisctor.com where you can follow state and federal bills by industry. Thank you.

[B]

And we're going to have you back on. We'll talk about the Pfizer papers, but I'll call you afterwards and we'll set it up. Mike Lindell, I know you were close to Charlie and the guys at Turning Point and I want to thank you for all the work you guys did with them. Also though, I want to make sure that people know that you're. You're still selling pillows and sheets during this time. What do you got for us? Right on.

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Most powerful promo code in the business, Michael. And they'll thank you. We'll see you this afternoon, brother. Appreciate you. Tage Gill. Taj. This is why we got to have this. We got to have the antifa terrorist organization. But we need a full scale investigation. As Naomi said, there's just no way this Kid because he's his lover, right? His dude, you know, living with him as a, as a woman, I guess it is with a, in a furry. You get a two for there. There's no way that this thing's deeper than that. Would you not agree with me, sir?

[H]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I definitely agree with you, Steve. You know, this guy didn't come up with all these ideas on his own. He was, he was radicalized online and through the college networks. That's how this happens. It's, it's just like radical Islam. You know, these, these kids that are lost, they, they get involved in these chat groups, online, social media, and then local networks, and they get radicalized. This, this is a true terrorist organization. Antipa. They take our youth, youth, they radicalize them, and then they send them off to do illegal activities and it's for political gain. So it literally checks all the blocks for domestic terrorism. So Trump should have no problem legally designating them as a domestic terrorist group. I heard him yesterday in the White House talking about it and he said he's going to bounce it off Pam Bondi. So hopefully they get all this done. Asa.

[B]

Yeah, that's already.

[H]

Yeah, this has been going on for over a decade. Sorry, go ahead.

[B]

And. Over a decade. Trump was going to do it in his first term and they and Bill Barr waved him up. But there's been work over the weekend and we'll have more updates on that this afternoon and tomorrow. Taj, I need a cup. I need a cup of great coffee. What do you got for me?

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[B]

Thank you, sir. You're, you're a patriot, a warrior, and a shooter. We're have Tage Break down all this videos. Come with us. So more of that over all these shows we're going to do in the run up to Charlie Kirk's funeral. Harrison joins us from Texas. A truth teller brother. I do not understand why Abbott and that administration down there are funding this madness. It's bad enough in these blue states, but why is the great state. Tell us what's happening. I got about 90 seconds. I'm going to have you back on this afternoon. Hope. What in the hell's going on in Texas, sir?

[I]

Yeah, it's outrageous. Pretty much all of the woke cancerous ideology that Charlie Kirk dedicated his life to defeating is being funded by the so called Republican government in the state of Texas. They kicked a conservative student out of a children's liter course at Texas A and M over the summer and then tried to threaten her into silence. Berated her. The Texas A and M University president berated her. Tried to cover it up. Well, who's running Texas A and M? Who was appointed by Governor Abbott and his regents? A former Barack Obama official currently running Texas A and M. And then I just found this this morning and I just posted this online just now. I was horrified to learn that at Texas State University, not only are they funding and teaching transgender indoctrination generally, they literally have a course teaching transgender justice and get this, transgender resistance. I am horrified. I've now learned this morning it's even worse than I thought. But the Texas government may well be funding the next generation of transgender domestic terrorists and of domestic assassins. And this is all because of Republicans. These so called Republican leadership in the Texas government who refuses to do the right thing and stop funding this poisonous woke cancerous ideology in almost every one of our public universities here in the state of Texas. It's an absolute outrage.

[B]

Harrison, Harrison. What's your, what's your, what's your social media handle more have you back on? I want to drill down on this because it's, it's, it's, it's, it's funding the cancer. Where, where do you go to get your information?

[I]

We're, we're funding the other team. It's Brian E. Harrison on X at Brian E. Harrison on X at Brian E. Harrison on X. And Texans and Americans coast to coast need to be outraged at what's being done with your tax dollars. We're funding the other side.

[B]

Thank you, brother. The Charlie Kirk show is next. Two hours of populist nationalism served up hot poo. After that Gruber. After that bowling. After that 5:00pm Eastern Daylight Time, you're back in the war room. See that? You missed the IRS tax deadline. You think it's just going to go away? Well, think again. The IRS doesn't mess around and they're applying pressure like we haven't seen in years. So if you haven't filed in a while, even if you can't pay, don't wait. And don't face the IRS alone. You need the trusted experts by your side. Tax Network usa. Tax Network USA isn't like other tax relief companies. They have an edge, a preferred direct line to the irs. They know which agents to talk to and which ones to avoid. They use smart, aggressive strategies to settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor. Whether you owe $10,000 or $10 million, Tax Network USA has helped resolve over $1 billion in tax debt. And they can help you, too. Don't wait on this. It's only going to get worse. Call Tax Network USA right now. It's free. Talk with one of their strategists and put your IRS troubles behind you. Put it behind you today. Call Tax Network USA at 1-800-958-1000. That's 800-958-1000 or visit taxnetwork USA tnusa.com Bannon do it today. Do not let this thing get ahead of you. Do it today.