Episode 4793: Tearing Down The Liberal Aparatis; Lies Of H1B

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room — Episode 4793

"Tearing Down The Liberal Apparatus; Lies Of H1B"
Date: September 20, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Guests: Rosemary Jenks, Dave Brat
Theme: A comprehensive, hard-hitting discussion of the "deep state," alleged liberal overreach in institutions, the crackdown on H1B and immigration policies, and the legacy of Charlie Kirk.

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Overview

In this intense episode, Steve Bannon and guests dissect the current political climate, focusing on the alleged corruption of the justice system under Trump, censorship and free speech battles, the culture war narrative, and major developments on immigration—most notably, new regulations regarding the H1B visa program and the introduction of a "Gold Card" immigration pathway. The episode also heavily memorializes Charlie Kirk, positioning his legacy as grounded in "lived Christianity" and populist activism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Alleged Judicial Overreach and Politicization

Timestamps: [00:00]–[06:10]

• Corruption Claims: The episode opens with strong claims from Bannon and co-hosts about Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel being directly influenced by Trump, rather than serving independently.
• Call for Whistleblowers: They urge federal officials to resist what they frame as Trump's inappropriate demands ("Don't go quietly. Make sure people know what is happening here. It is completely antithetical to the rule of law." — [A], [01:25]).
• Reference to High-Profile Resignations: Breaking news about Eric Seibert (U.S. Attorney, Eastern District of Virginia) resigning under pressure for not pursuing charges requested by Trump.
• Comparison to McCarthy Era: A guest claims the current era is “worse than McCarthy,” implying broader scope and aggression ([A], [04:30]).

2. Free Speech, Media, and Censorship

Timestamps: [05:03]–[12:00]

• Censorship Narrative: Bannon’s team accuses the administration of censoring media critical of Trump and pushing ideological conformity ([B], [05:08]; [C], [06:10]).
• Conservative Media Ecosystem: They tout platforms like Getter for “uncensored” discussion ([C], [16:14]), contrast MAGA/new right media with “collapsing” legacy/globalist outlets.
• Quote: “This is the primal scream of a dying regime... Pray for our enemies because we’re going medieval on these people.” — [C], [06:10]

3. Populist Energy and Charlie Kirk's Legacy

Timestamps: [11:10]–[21:00]

• Coverage of upcoming Charlie Kirk memorial broadcast, emphasizing the importance of activism beyond reliance on charismatic leadership.
• “Lived Christianity” is presented as Kirk's key virtue and legacy ([C], [13:10]–[14:55]).
• Opposition Framing: “We’re taking this apparatus down brick by brick, so you can never rebuild it. Our contempt for you is bottomless.” — [C], [15:50]

4. Immigration: Gold Card Program & H1B Reform

Timestamps: [23:00]–[43:00]

a. Gold Card Program

• Details: New visa path for “foreigners of extraordinary ability” with a $1M payment (or $2M by corporations) to the U.S. Treasury for expedited entry ([A], [23:00]).

  • Billed as a replacement for what’s framed as a poorly targeted green card system.

• Controversial Framing: The old system let in “the bottom quartile,” which Bannon’s panel claims is illogical and rare worldwide ([C], [23:49]).

• Purpose: To “take only extraordinary people at the very top” and use the funds for tax cuts and debt paydown ([C], [24:50]).

b. H1B Visas: New Restrictions

• Announcement: Trump’s proclamation (not an executive order) requires companies to pay $100,000/year for each new H1B visa slot ([B], [27:39]; [C], [39:06]).
• Panel’s Position: This is lauded as a huge victory by the anti-H1B movement:
  • “The H1B is a total and complete scam by the oligarchs in Silicon Valley to bring in cheap labor… and drive the wages down.” — [C], [26:36]
  • Rosemary Jenks: “The entire [H1B] program should be eliminated. If we care about American workers, we should be training our own.” ([B], [32:02])
• Details on Scope & Loopholes:
  • The $100,000 fee only applies to new entrants or those outside the country; current H1Bs and many student pathways (OPT) are unaffected ([B], [36:49]–[37:15]).
  • Exemptions possible at Homeland Security’s discretion; critics fear loopholes remain.
  • Federal and state governments are also hiring H1Bs, with some exemptions from overall caps ([B], [38:00]).
  • Bannon and Jenks agree this mainly affects body shops but less so giants like Apple or Amazon, which can absorb costs ([B], [39:06]–[40:12]).

c. Key Quotes & Moments

• Jenks: “Employers pay 36% less for an entry-level H1B than they do for an American. … The entire system is corrupt and is designed as cheap labor for employers in this country.” ([B], [32:25])
• Bannon: “This is not capitalism. This is corporatism… the H1B scam is about their greed.” ([C], [41:00])
• Dave Brat: “Private firms are gaining… now we have to pay the price, right, through these visa programs.” ([A], [48:00])

5. Broader Anti-Liberal and “Deep State” Framing

Timestamps: [14:55]–[22:00], [46:50]–[50:51]

• Repeated attacks on “the administrative state,” Antifa (described as a multi-layered, Soros-funded threat), and the “transgender ideology” viewed as a wedge to destroy Western civilization and Christianity.

• The episode draws connections between all these topics, presenting a unified "populist" struggle against elite, globalist, and left-wing conspiracies.

• Quote: “They want to destroy the underpinnings of the Judeo-Christian West, and as the most important institution… the Christian church… that’s the power of Charlie Kirk.” — [C], [15:00]

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps & Attributions)

• On Media and Justice:

  • "It is incumbent on the good people of the federal government to stand up and… say, No, I'm not going to do that. … Do the right thing, but don't go quietly." — [A], [01:25]
  • "This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people." — [C], [06:10]

• On Free Speech:

  • "I am very alarmed by this administration’s campaign of censorship and control." — [B], [05:03]
  • "You're now seeing … hate speech prosecutions. You're seeing MAGA turning its back on hard fought free speech victories… all in the service of his power." — [A], [04:44]

• Immigration & H1B:

  • "The H1B is a total and complete scam by the oligarchs in Silicon Valley…” — [C], [26:36]
  • “Employers pay 36% less for an entry-level H1B than they do for an American… The entire system is corrupt and is designed as cheap labor for employers in this country.” — [B], [32:25]
  • "It's indentured servitude… not acceptable at any level." — [C], [33:52]
  • “So with this proclamation, the president is … proclaiming that admission of H1Bs… unless they've paid $100,000, is not in the public interest.” — [B], [35:38]

• On the Broader Fight:

  • “We're taking this apparatus down brick by brick, so you can never rebuild it. Our contempt for you is bottomless.” — [C], [15:50]
  • “If you call this a new McCarthyism, have on it… McCarthy was 100% correct.” — [C], [17:40]
  • “Trust the process when you have warriors like Rosemary Jenks.” — [C], [42:47]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Judicial Corruption & Whistleblowers: [00:00]–[06:10]
• Censorship & Free Speech: [05:03]–[12:00]
• Populism & Charlie Kirk Legacy: [11:10]–[21:00]
• Gold Card Immigration Pathway: [23:00]–[24:50]
• H1B Reform and Proclamation Analysis: [24:50]–[43:00]
• Anti-Liberal/Deep State Rhetoric: [14:55]–[22:00], [46:50]–[50:51]

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Tone and Style

The episode is combative, conspiratorial, and intensely anti-establishment. The hosts and guests use vivid, sometimes militaristic language (“going medieval,” “tearing down brick by brick”), blending populist outrage with a call to direct activism. There’s a recurring theme of betrayal—by media, the justice system, business elites, and the “administrative state”—and the need for relentless resistance.

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Conclusion

This episode serves as both a rallying cry for “populist” conservative activism and a detailed look at recent immigration policy changes, namely the harsh new restrictions on H1B visas and the introduction of a “Gold Card” for wealthy, “extraordinary” immigrants. The War Room frames these developments as victories against “globalist,” “corporatist,” and left-wing enemies, and memorializes Charlie Kirk as a martyr for their movement.

For further analysis and real-time updates on these policy shifts, panelists direct listeners to iaproject.org and the War Room’s social media channels.

Transcript

[A]

This is an undermining of the system. But I wonder which legal guardrails are.

[B]

Still in effect to stop this complete nutter takeover of our judicial system?

[A]

Yeah, I think that's actually the big question, right? I mean, first of all, we got Pam Bondi, who's also supposed to be operating independently. She's the Attorney General of the United States. You know, she's been in the White House more often than many of the staff, as far as I can tell from the outside. I mean, she's in the Oval Office hanging out with them, yucking it up. She's doing hits on Fox News from the, from the, from the lawn. And, you know, does anyone really believe she's not taking direction from the. From Donald Trump directly on what to do and what not to do? Anyone believe the FBI Director, Cash Patel, is doing anything other than the bidding of Donald Trump? And so, of course, from Donald Trump's standpoint, he believes that everybody in the federal government, including the US Attorneys out in the states, operate as his agents. You know, are there, his are his errands. Boys are there to, to do his bidding. But it is incumbent on the good people of the federal government to stand up and to say, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do the right thing for the American people and I'm not going to do your bidding. And if you need to fire me, fire me and I will go out loudly. We saw that work in the Southern District of New York when Eric Adams was under indictment and, and Donald Trump wanted that indictment dismissed. You saw resignation and firing after firing, and it brought to the public what is going on. So my request to the folks in the Eastern District of New York is don't go quietly, don't do the wrong thing, do the right thing, but don't go quietly. Make sure people know what is happening here, because it is completely antithetical to the rule of law. It is important for judges to know it because they will be hearing these cases going forward. And most importantly, it is important for the American people to know that our system of justice is being corrupted. Breaking news tonight that the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, Eric Seibert, has told his office he is resigning after increasing pressure from Donald Trump. Sources tell MSNBC that staffers in the office were distraught at the news, some even crying when they found out. Cyber, its resignation comes as Donald Trump has become increasingly frustrated that Cyber would not prosecute the New York Attorney General, Letitia James, on trumped up mortgage fraud charges he had refused to charge because his investigation could not bear out the accusations. The resignation came after Trump was asked directly about the issue in the Oval Office just a few hours ago and said, quote, I want him out. Are you disappointed that the U.S. attorney.

[C]

For the Eastern District of Virginia has.

[A]

Not prosecuted Letitia James? Do you intend to fire him? Well, we're going to see what happens.

[C]

I am not following it very closely. It looks to me like she's very guilty of something, but I really don't know. I know that the U.S. attorney from.

[A]

The Eastern District or from that district.

[C]

In Virginia, that he was approved by.

[A]

Two Democrat senators who in my opinion are among the worst you see on fire.

[C]

Do you want him out? Yeah, I want him out. Yeah. George Sloppadopoulos had to pay $16 million to me because of what he said. And that's ABC. You had to pay more than that. Your network had to pay more than that. So I think it's very sad, but I think that reporting has to be at least accurate. At least accurate to an extent. Again, when somebody is given 97% of the stories are bad about a person that's no longer free speech, that's no longer anything, that's just cheating. And they cheat and they become really members of the Democrat National Committee.

[A]

Well, in the Magaverse, they would tell you, oh, everything you're saying has been done to us. Yes. This deeply conspiratorial view that is that everything you're warning about that Trump could do or that everything that Trump is doing, he's, all he's doing is doing to Democrats what Democrats already did to Republicans. So that's in the Magaverse. And there have been Democratic violations of free speech, no question about it. But what we're dealing with right now is something that, you know, I was talking to one of my, one of the people I respect the most in the free speech universe and I said, is this as bad as it's been since McCarthy or worse than McCarthy? And he said unequivocally, worse than McCarthy. And I agree with him. It's larger in scope, it's broader in scope, it's more aggressive, it's stretching across American society. And so what you're dealing with right now is a situation where Trump is unleashed and he has the backing of maga. You're now seeing reviving of the idea of hate speech prosecutions. You're seeing MAGA turning its back on hard fought free speech victories that the conservative legal movement fought for, for decades, and all in the service of his Power. So yes, we are in territory we've not been in for a very long time in this country.

[B]

I am very alarmed by this administration's campaign of censorship and control.

[A]

It is damaging to our democracy.

[B]

It is censoring what the broadcasters can.

[C]

Or cannot say about this administration or whatever ideology this administration wants to espouse.

[B]

And that's not good for our democracy. You know, it's only, it's September.

[A]

There have been, you know, moments where.

[B]

They, where the administration, where you see them just moving through like wildfire and implementing Project 2025 and they might pull back a little bit, but they feel like they got a window now and like, wow, from, you know, just in the last week how much they have, how, how much they had their foot on the accelerator and how comfortable they clearly feel. And in pushing this, not the FCC was last time the FCC chairman, I didn't know the FCC chairman was during there in Barack Obama or Joe Biden's term. And you know, Brendan Carr is making himself a public presence to just to continue to push this case.

[C]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians, I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[A]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[C]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Band. It's Saturday the 20th of September in the year of our Lord 2025. Okay, we are obviously going all out on getting ready for our what, 10 hour live broadcast tomorrow in commemoration of Charlie Kirk. It'll be both a religious service and a celebration of life. The War Room and Real America Voice will be there starting at 10am Eastern Daylight Time tomorrow. I want to make sure you can be a big force multiplier. And let's get the word out because we're gonna have, you know, tons of special people associated with the Real American Voice channel, which was the channel of Charlie Kirk and the Charlie Kirk show. And we're gonna have obviously a lot of folks that have been contributors to the War Room, some that will be a. To make it out To Phoenix and others who will be in remote. But we will start at 10am tomorrow morning and go throughout the day will not end until the evening. And so if you want to get a great day of content and hard hitting content, please join us tomorrow. You see right there a New York Times. I don't know if we can, if Grace, you can get it to the guys in Denver. But it's up on my getter and this is why you ought to go together. I'm always putting stuff up there first. You know why? It's a, it's a great platform and it's so easy that even a moron like myself can post. Now on occasions I need Elizabeth or Mo or Grace to help me out. But that's on a super technical thing by and large I can put it all up myself. New York Times has a, has a huge article. I think it's on page one of the paper in the physical paper, at least part of it about this whole issue of Jimmy Kimmel. And here's what's obvious. They take the firing of Jimmy Kimmel, which was really an economic decision made by the affiliates. They're just tired of it. They don't want the hate. They know they can't lose 60% of their audience and particularly the unacceptable remarks. I mean but Charlie Kirk and he was prepared to make more an attack maga. They don't need that. This is why Hollywood movies are bombing. This is why so many of the, you know, the cable, this is why they're spinning off msnbc.

[A]

Right?

[C]

There's just no audience for that anymore. That kind of overarching narrative of the globalists and the elitist in this country has collapsed. Why they use that information news in service to themselves, not to the country and not to citizens of the country. And American citizens are very smart and have tremendous common sense and kind of basic core American values and have seen through it. And so they're so freaked out because they know that we're coming for them and we are coming from them. And I said in the New York Times, I'm like, I've had a thousand people come to me, hey, can you come up and debate the free speech? No, I'm not interested in that. We're taking action now. We're getting, we're getting, we're cleaning house at these media companies. And this is why the media companies are making all this nonsense about the antifa and the investigation. Well, you know, antifa is just a bunch of kids running around. Yo, that's on the surface. And they're not kids running around. They're very well trained by military intelligence and national security operatives. They're embedded in the deep state in your government. The young woman that was a member of Antifa and left on, on Jesse Waters the other night walked you through it, how? I think it was in New York, upstate New York. She get training from military personnel. So that's the second layer, the training. And the third layer is the one that's important. That's the Mack Daddy that is Soros and it's tides and it's, you know, all the interconnections of the money and ActBlue and how the foreign money comes in. Plus it's going to be a number of these media operations and these media personnel. And using the toolbox of the investigation of the investigative apparatus of terrorism, right. Of terror finance, you've got a whole new set of tools, boxes. And this is what your government has done. This is what the Trump administration has done. That's quite brilliant. In the last 72 hours, or I guess since Charlie's execution, Charlie's assassination, because Charlie was executed. He was executed by the radical left because he was the most decent, humble, effective communicator we had in a generation that brought people to him. It's so many young people see it tomorrow. They're coming to him because he didn't really have, I mean, he had it, he had an ego as far as getting things done. But he was such an open person and such a good person, such a kind person, such a decent man that that's why he attracted people to him and they assassinated him. They knew exactly what they were doing. They knew exactly what they were doing. Okay? Guys like him and Breitbart and these guys come along once in a generation. So it's for we the living to make sure that we finish the work of Charlie Kirk. And I've preached that with Next man up. But it's also incumbent upon us. We have a responsibility. We have a responsibility to this republic. Everybody came before us, everybody fought for this, everybody built this. You know, your parents, your grandparents, your great grandparents, your great great grandparents all the way back. If they were here today at the table with you, having a cup of coffee at the morning show, what would they tell you about what has to be done here? Think about that as they always start downrange for future generations, right? And sacrificed and delayed gratification just to take this country forward and build this nation. We're an inflection point. It either gets done now or if we don't do it now with Trump, the Trump administration, the people he has in that Cabinet, the House and the Senate. We got what we got, folks. The courts, we got what we got. We have to make it happen now. And how do you make it happen now? You're relentless in demanding it. And every second of every day you work behind the scenes and we do it here in war room. We're going to, you know, you're going to make calls, you're going to get in people's faces and we're going to demand, demand action. A lot's happened. This designation of trans, this transgender ideology, which is we have shown on this show in the last three years, four years, really, the last three years, intensely of how radical it is and what a racket it is and how much money's made in it, but also how it is part of inextricably linked, kind of with transhumanism, this dangerous and demonic philosophy, coupled with kind of what the oligarchs believe about the networks. This is why the chaos appears now in the fourth Turning. They want to destroy the underpinnings of the Judeo Christian west, and as the most important institution in the Judeo Christian west, the Christian church, Christianity, they want to destroy that. These demons hate that. That's the power of Charlie Kirk and what you're going to see tomorrow. Charlie Kirk was a Christian to his core, lived his life, exemplified what I refer to as lived Christianity. Not going to church once a week, not every now and again reading the Bible, lived Christianity. And that is one of the reasons you've seen this massive outpouring. It's quite it's much deeper than politics, much deeper than electoral politics or elective politics. That's what they hate on the other side, and they're freaked out now that we're taking their apparatus down. And watch my lips, folks, you evil demons on the left, we're taking this apparatus down brick by brick, so you can never rebuild it. Our contempt for you is bottomless short. Commercial break. How's that for de escalation? Back in the warm in a moment. I got American Baby in America's heart. According to the Department of Energy, blackouts could increase by 10,000% over the next few years. It's because of massive energy demand from artificial intelligence data centers. 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[B]

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[A]

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[B]

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[C]

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[A]

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[B]

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[C]

Okay. By the way, our coverage tomorrow, we're going to have expansive coverage, like I said, all day. Religious service first, then the celebration of life with the president and other major personages. We'll also have Ben Berkwan in the crowd. The best thing we've done so far of all the great work Real America's Voice in the War room has done in covering Charlie is I think the interviews Ben Berkhom got outside the Kennedy center, where people just walking in the war room posse, Maga, and just people who just were drawn to Charlie's teachings and philosophy is amazing. Off the spur of the moment, I think we got like eight or nine. You know, in that pre Kennedy center hour and a half we went. It was just incredible. That's what populism's about. It's about you. It's about when I say next man up, I'm talking to you about you. We can't. Our movement doesn't lean on great leaders. And we've had Andrew Breitbart and we've had Charlie Kirk and we have Donald Trump. But as you can see, divine providence took Andrew from us early, took Charlie from us way too early. And President Trump, you know, this is why I'm Trump 2028. With all of President Trump's imperfections, right. His greatness is. He's risen above those, just like Lincoln rose above his and General Washington rose above his. In fact, if you, you know, when I talk about Trump like this, I realize that most of the nation, because the way the school systems work, haven't really had a chance to study Washington. In the trials of General Washington, particularly the military trials, they were trying to get rid of him half the time. His trials and tribulations during the revolution to hold the army together, nothing short of superhuman. And they were on him and backstabbing him and trying to tear him down constantly, constantly, constantly Lincoln the same way. And coming from Richmond, Virginia, you're raised as a child that. And I realize some of this audience still, particularly many of our Southern brethren, but in the south, you raised that. You know, Lincoln is not a hero. Trust me. So. But my, you know, study him over the years. You see what he accomplished to help hold the country together. And then President Trump to return America to her greatness and try to hold this country together. It's upon us, we the living, to make sure that we finish this work, finish what we started. A note about McCarthy. There's not a lot about McCarthy. Let me be just brutally frank about this. McCarthy was 100% correct. The government of FDR, it started in the 30s with the KGB, but the government of FDR was rife, riddled and infested with active participation of KGB agents. That's a proven historical fact in the Verona files after the Soviet Union fell, reinforced that by naming names. And you can tell by the, you can tell by the things that don't make any sense, like after Yalta, not, not the army not going to Berlin, Montgomery and the British and Patton and the Americans not going to, not going to Berlin. And all the phony excuses about it giving away China. So they're going to hold McCarthyism. Hey, baby, guess what? I'd love that we embrace that McCarthy was 100% correct. And if they followed McCarthy, particularly in things like China, the world would not be in the shape it's in today in so many hundreds of millions of people. Hundreds of millions of Chinese of Lao Baijang, of Lao Baijing would be alive or their grandchildren would be alive instead of being eradicated. I don't want to say it's a little bit of racism there, but hey, it's a little bit of racism there. And what the Hori Tori Atlantic elites right what they're thinking about Marxism and communism and is how was applied in by the Chinese and particularly Mao Tse Tung of these people. Let me reiterate this. McCarthy was 100% correct. 100% correct. And we embrace the fact. If you call this a new McCarthyism have on it and if you don't want to try. Of all the biographies ever written about McCarthy M. Stanton Evans, who I think was Buckley's, Buckley's editor with the National Review wrote an incredible piece blacklisted by history. Ann Coulter referred to it in her understated way as the second greatest book in back of the Bible. But it tells a lot about this country. Blacklisted by history if you get a chance. But this McCarthyism thing is going to get thrown at you and you're going hey, bring it baby. That's the best you got? You know, de escalate this because we're going up the escalatory ladder. We have to go up the escalatory ladder. We have to take this thing apart brick by brick. The deep state and the administrative state around it. Got to do it. That antifa investigation. So first of all they've designated already these tranny militias which are vicious and the more you find out, the more grotesque. It's just grotesque. Let's be blunt. Perverted and grotesque that they are nihilistic violent extremists. NV so the FBI and DHS are already all over that and you know shortly we're going to get an executive order signed on antifa and they're on tv. Well, it's just a disorganized. Hey, you wait till we sign the executive order and come after. You'll see how disorganized this. They're nervous, they're wetting themselves because they understand their. They understand that they've co conspirators. Yep, yep. Now we have to adjudicate this. You have to find the evidence. But that's why the toolbox on the terrorists. A major terrorist designation is so big. Okay, I know this audience here. See your heads were blowing up. I was watching Oval Office because you're not a big name in visas. You don't trust any of it as you should not. Let's play the package. We're going to bring in the great Rosemary Jenks who's going to explain it all to you. Let's go ahead and hit it.

[A]

We have two items for your attention today, sir. A major focus of your administration has been shifting the conversation and shifting the policy dynamics around the issue of immigration. Closing the border, preventing illegal immigration. But also, as is the case with the executive order in front of you, opening new pathways for truly extraordinary people to come contribute to America's instead of taking away from it. So this executive order is entitled the Gold Card. It will set up a new pathway, a new visa pathway for foreigners of extraordinary ability who are committed to supporting the United States for a payment of $1 million to the US treasury, or if a corporation is sponsoring them, $2 million by that corporation. And that will give them access to expedited visa treatment as part of this new Gold Card program.

[C]

And one of the biggest problems we have is that people, they go to the best schools and they do great and they get great marks and then they're thrown out of the country. You're not allowed to stay. This way, a corporation will be able, sort of like a signing bonus in baseball or football, corporation will be able to get them to stay in the country. And I think it's going to be tremendously successful. So historically, the employment based green card program let in 281,000 people a year. And those people on average earned $66,000 a year, on average. And they were five times more likely to go on assistance programs of the government. So we were taking in the bottom quartile below the average American. It was illogical. The only country in the world that was taking in the bottom quartile. So what we are doing now is we are going to stop doing that. We're going to only take extraordinary people at the very top. Instead of people trying to take the jobs from Americans, they're going to create businesses and create jobs for Americans. And this program will raise more than $100 billion for the treasury of the United States of America, which we'll use for cutting taxes and paying down debt. We think it's going to be very successful. Essentially we're having people come in, people that in many cases I guess are, you know, very successful or whatever. And they're coming in. Let me have it. Let me have it. There's another cut to that on H1BS. And can we please pull it so I can see it? So there are two things Rosemary happened yesterday. I want to leave the kind of Gold card thing to the side for a second because I still can't wrap my head around that. I want to focus on the H1BS. And so explain it is now the H, as explained yesterday, the company has to put up $100,000 per year per billet for new H1BS. Is that the case? And if to me, if that's the case. Then haven't we won the argument? Because it can't. Okay, let me step back. The H1BS is a total and complete scam. Not kind of a scam, not a partial scam, not a semi scam. It is a 100% total scam by the oligarchs in Silicon Valley to bring in cheap labor in here to to work in slave wage conditions and not give jobs to American citizens and drive the wages down. Because I've asked and asked and asked. Can you show me any HB1 recipient that in any billet there's not an American with the education and the expertise to take said billet? I have never gotten a response to talking to these guys. They can't come up with one example. So is the solution here what they've done is $100,000 per year. That would make it prohibitive. Have we won the fight or is Howard Lutnick bait and switching me, baby?

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It's a little bit of both. But I will say, first of all, this is a huge win when you consider where President Trump was, what he was saying a few months ago. So first of all, I would encourage all of the war room posse to actually read the proclamation. It's a pretty proclamation, not an executive order. And it can be found on our [e-mail] under Accountability Administration. Accountability. The what? The proclamation actually lays out some pretty amazing facts about the H1B system. It says things like between two.

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Hang, hang, hang on, hang on, hang on. I want to get you full Runway. Okay with the whole segment. I'm kind of jiggy just at the beginning. No, it's not executive order, it's a proclamation. But we'll get into all that. The great Rosemary Jinx is here on a Saturday to explain to you Nativist exactly what's going down short. Commercial break Back in the warm in a moment. There's a lot of talk about government debt, but after four years of inflation, the real crisis is personal debt. Seriously, you're working harder than ever and you're still drowning in credit card debt and overdue bills. You need done with debt and here's why you need it. The credit system is rigged to keep you trapped. Done With Debt has unique and frankly brilliant escape strategies to help end your debt fast so you keep more of your hard earned money. Done With Debt doesn't try to sell you a loan and they don't try to sell you a bankruptcy. They're tough negotiators that go one on one with your credit card in loan companies with one goal, to drastically reduce your bills and eliminate interest and erase penalties. Most clients end up with more money in their pocket month one and they don't stop until they break you free from debt permanently. Look, take a couple of minutes and visit donewithdeb.com talk with one of their strategists. It's free, but listen up. Some of their solutions are time sensitive, so you'll need to move quickly. Go to donewithdebt.com that's donewithdebt.com Stop the anxiety, stop the angst. Go to donewithdebT.com and do it today.

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War Room.

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Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. Okay, Dave Bratt is Dave's a board member for Rosemary. Rosemary, real quickly, you were Numbers USA and folks, the great battles and the great fights on this. Go back to the Tea Party Revolution 2010. The fights in 11, 12 and 13. Stephen Miller as young Grundoon staffers in the House and in the Senate. Breitbart at the tip, at the tip of this, this is the beginning of the Trump revolution. Everyone to that that connective tissue. Obviously the underpinnings was a financial crisis in 2008 that, that created the Tea Party. But the shift to more populist nationalism came one with the bailouts of of the big companies and no bailout for you. But also the fact that the globalists just wanted to open the border. Not just open borders for illegals to drive down the wages of unskilled or lower skilled African Americans and Hispanics, but they also want to replace you as workers through all these scams and amnesties and all this and those fights. Rosemary Jenks was a major part of for years we've worked together. She was@Numbers USA. Why did you shift? Why did you shift to your you created an entire new entity because of what reason, ma'? Am?

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There were some changes at Numbers USA that I wasn't particularly fond of and I decided that the best thing to do would be to create a new organization where we could be absolutely dedicated to what is happening in Congress and the administration and call out what needed to be called out and just go hard.

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And Rosemary Jenks I think is one of the heaviest people in this space intellectually with gravitas, people trust her numbers, etc. So Rosemary, when I sit here and scream into this microphone all the time as I have for years and say that the H1B visa program from top to bottom, stem to stern, is a total and complete scam against the American workers to drive down the wages and to take opportunities and to give them for foreign students. Right, and foreign workers to basically drive down wages. Am I too over the top on that, ma'? Am?

[B]

No, you're absolutely right. And the program, the entire program should be eliminated. If we care about American workers, we should be training our own American workers. We should be employing the American workers we've already trained, which is not happening right now. And the ironic thing is that, you know, I was starting to say the White House's proclamation actually lays out the case for completely eliminating H1BS, even though it doesn't actually do that. So, I mean, things like the fact that 2019 foreign workers doubled. The number of foreign STEM workers doubled, while STEM employment double. Jobs only increased by 44 and a half percent. So that's why Americans can't get jobs. Employers pay 36% less for an entry level H1B than they do for an American. American computer science and computer engineering graduates have an unemployment rate right now of almost 50% or more higher than the national unemployment rate. So these kids who did everything right and learned how to program and, you know, did. Took the STEM classes and graduated in STEM fields, they can't find jobs because of this program. And the feeder programs like optional practical training, where a foreign student gets to take a job from an American and the employer and the foreign student don't have to pay FICA taxes. So there's a roughly seven and a half percent discount for the employer to hire a foreign student over an American graduate. That feeds into the H1B pipeline. The entire system is corrupt and is designed as cheap labor for employers in this country so that they can avoid.

[C]

It's also. Yeah, it's unbecoming of us as a country. It's indentured servitude. I thought we dealt with this on the 19th century. It's indentured servitude. Okay. It's not acceptable at any level. However, we started this drama, this version of it in, In Mar Lago, in, I guess in late December, in January, where I got into it with, you know, I think it was Vivek Ramaswamy at the time and, and. And the great Elmo Musk. And this, you know, Elmo. This was because he came in. And by the way, he's totally illegal. Right. He came in on H1B scam and then scammed the whole thing about a student, his record. If you want to go after Omar and I do, to toss her out of the country and send her back to the Horn of Africa, I want to toss out Elon Elmo and send him back to South Africa because he's hearing just the kind of scandal, different. Different version now. He got, you know, all puffed up, and this was the hill he was going to die on. And we were all terrible, Screw you, dude. You're a foreigner that is taking advantage of foreign labor at the detriment of American citizens. Now, this is the first step. President Trump. They've come a long way because the time. President Trump, who back in the old days hated H1B visas, right? But times change. And of course, to have to raise the money you have to do to defeat Biden and save the country. You know, I'm not saying you gotta make some compromises, but you have to hear some different opinions than the war room. And we fully understand that. And we're big boys and girls. We understand that. But given where we were at the beginning of this fight in January, and this was gonna be the hill that. That Elon Musk died on, he's bleeding out a little bit, isn't he? From where President Trump has come into a very imperfect system that we want to eradicate. Where. Where do we actually stand now, Rosemary?

[B]

So with this proclamation, the president is using what's called his 212F authority, or section 1182 of the Immigration and Nationality act, which allows any president to restrict the entry, the admission of any alien or class of aliens when they deem it in the national interest. So he, through this proclamation, has proclaimed that the admission of H1BS into the United States unless they have paid $100,000, is not in the public interest. So that means that the $100,000 fee only applies to new H1Bs coming into the country. Potentially, it applies to current H1Bs who are outside the country right now, either on vacation or traveling or whatever, if they can't get back into the country before midnight tonight when it goes into effect, it does not apply to current H1BS in the country. It does not apply to foreign students who get opt and then adjust their status to H1B.

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Hang on, but hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. So roughly a million years, you're back in the envelope, you think there's a million H1BS. I think it's higher, but you think it's about a million H1Bs here, and it's about 500,000 of these students. That's what galls me more than anything. These students, the OPTs. So you have about a million guys are here. It doesn't apply them. And the opts, it's a little uncertain whether it applies to them.

[B]

It does not apply to the opt because unless they leave the country, which they don't have to, if they stay in the United States, it doesn't apply to them. And this is. This is part of the problem. It also includes waivers for anyone the Secretary of Homeland Security decides is, you know, in the public interest, basically. But what there are so many things that we need to do if we're not going to fully eliminate the H1B program. We have to end OPT. We have to end. By the way, government agencies, federal government, state government, local government can all hire H1BS and opts. For that matter, there's actually an exemption from the cap of H1BS for government institutions that hire them. Our tax dollars are paying for H1BS to replace American workers. And by the way, that is something that every state governor could end today, you know, if they just said our state agencies will no longer employ H1BS or opt.

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Okay, do that. Okay, we're going to get on that, too. We're going to get on that, too. Correct me if I'm wrong, though. Maybe I just don't understand the math because Lutnick went on and on about this. It's $100,000 per year payment by the company to the government for the billet of an H1B. So in other words, if I hire somebody 36% less, you know, let's say their average wage, 100,000 bucks, you get them for in the 60,000, right, 65,000, something like that does is this thing say the company's got to pay $100,000 per year for that billet for the privilege of that. Or is it $100,000 for an entire H1B program?

[B]

He said it's $100,000 per year. But the proclamation only lasts for one year. So it's. Unless it's extended, it's unclear how that every year would work. But the bottom line, Steve, is that this proclamation is aimed directly at the body shops, the cognizance, Infosys, Tatas. That is who it is designed to stand, stop from abusing the H1B system. And I think it will significantly stop them because this makes H1BS too expensive for them. It is not going to affect the, you know, regular corporations, the Apples and the Microsofts and the amazons who hire H1BS for the most.

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Why? A hundred thousand? A hundred thousand bucks? Hang on, hang on. 100,000 bucks is a hundred thousand bucks. Is it? But here's my Point is Apple have to make one payment for an entire HB1 program or for every HB1 billet that they're going to have. Is that 100,000 bucks?

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It's 100,000. It's 100,000 bucks for every new H1B that they're going to bring into the country. There is no hundred thousand dollars if they take an opt and sponsor that person for an H1B. So if the.

[A]

Oh no, we got it.

[C]

We got it. We have to. Yeah, yeah, okay, we'll get over. And that's why get on top of it. Look, the movement, the movement has given the pressure around him. You saw the tech bro dinner is, is, is huge. That being said, these tech boligarchs will pull every scam. This is, this is about their avarice and their greed. They're all billionaires. They're going to make them stop. And President Trump's delivered them a stock market's on fire and they still. It's like the Kochs. The Kochs are worried about somebody getting 1100 bucks out of Social Security. They are so mesmerized by that and want to destroy it. Right? Just like these tech Bros. They never want to pay a decent market wage. They are not capitalist. This is the difference between capitalism and corporatism. The HB1 visa scam is all about corporatism. And this is where they put the interest, their own greed and avarice before the nation and particularly, particularly young people. The people have done everything right, played by the rules. When you were out at fraternities, drinking and carrying on, you know, and taking some gut business class, right? These guys were doing, these men and women were doing the tough work of hitting those classes every day. Rosemary, let's. So we're going to have a bigger breakdown by you. We'll put the proclamation out. You're going to be all over this. Congress has been no help here. What about, can you come back and join us? I want to get to, I don't, I don't have time today, but I want to come back, bring you back Monday or Tuesday about the golden visa because that went from 5 million to it like a million, right? All of a sudden it was 5 million. Only a super select. And by the way, I hate this program in its entirety, but I think we got to hear President Trump out about what he's trying to do. Rosemary, what's your, what's your, where do people go over the weekend before we get you back on Monday or Tuesday to look at your analysis of, of, of the changes in H1B and the new Golden Visa.

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Our website is iaproject.org all of our social media is listed from there. We need everybody's support on this and we're still working on the analysis of both executive or both orders that came out last night. But we'll have everything up soon and you can find it all on our website, iaproject.org.

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Okay, ma', am, we're now engaged and it's coming our way. It's a process, folks. It's a process. Trust the process when you have warriors like Rosemary Jenks. I got another warrior with me today. I got three in a row. I got Brat's gonna ride shotgun. Navarro's gonna be here. Dr. Michael Savage is going to join us. It's a on fire Saturday in the weekend of the commemoration of the life of Charlie Kirk. Short break. What if he had the brightest mind in the war room? Delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War Room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets. Jim predicted Trump's electoral College victory exactly 312 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and and your financial future. His latest book, Money GPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos. Bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes and even threats to national security. Right now, War Room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go to Rickards War room dot com. That's all one word. Rickards War Rooms. Rickards with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's Rickards War room dot com. Do it today. This Sunday, real America's voice pauses to honor a patriot whose voice carried a movement. RAV presents Charlie Kirk A Legacy remembered.

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Yeah, well, David, David French, crying crocodile tears in the cold open was just precious. You know, these right wingers are saying, well, the left did all this stuff to them and that's the key word did, right? The left is just screaming out A bunch of the right is saying this. The right is announcing that we haven't done any of the bad stuff that they're accusing us of. Right. This fascism stuff. The left put you in Navarro in jail, got President Trump shot, shut down the whole country. He, he's talking about censorship to the left, shutting down free speech. After Covid, they shut down the entire country. Excuse me, they shut down churches, they shut down the conservative voice until Elon came back and gave us one platform, and they're horrified of that. And this stuff ties in with, with Charlie and with Rosemary Jenks at Immigration Accountability Project. Please go support her. I hate to make you pay twice, right. To support iap, but what she just described is just run amok across the board. Right. The, the private firms are gaining. The big seven tech firms own about 40% of the S&P 500. Right. These seven rich folks in the super seven, these super giant tech firms, they are gigantic. They shut us all down. And now we have to pay the price. Right. Through these visa programs that Rosemary just got done discussing. So the private gains, what Steve says every day you got private gains going to capital and to the profits of firms. And then the public pays for it. All right? You're paying for all.

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They socialize. Yeah, yeah, they've socialized. Yeah. They've mitigated. They've socialized. Their downside. Right. That the taxpayer that are mitigating their risk.

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And I just wanted to throw in.

[C]

One of the upside for themselves. Yeah.

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Yes. And the FCC language was the same as what Rosemary just said. And Trump has a lot of latitude here with the public interest, with the fcc. Right. That, that phrase the left always uses is the we got to do this for the common good. Well, I'd like to talk about the common good and in the economic analysis, in that, in the piece on the Trump, on the H1B visa thing, they said we're going to hurt innovation and economic growth. That's the biggest bunch of bull I ever heard in my life. The economic growth is the size of the whole pie that accrues mainly to the one top 1%. What they'll never tell you is this is going to hurt wages of the average American worker. Right. That's. They're going to totally leave that little piece out. And we're not educating. And Charlie, this week on education, the left and these elitists don't care one whit about these poor kids, the poor kids in Chicago, third grade literacy rate of 12%. 12% of the kids can read. How in the World. You think you're gonna get innovation again. They put in the public costs on you. You're paying for all the schools that teach what, Atheism, trans, whatever. It's a disaster.

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There's not, there's not one that has math proficiency. I think high schools. Hang on for a second. Hang for a second. We're gonna take a break here, here. And we're going to get. Dr. Navaro is going to join Dave, Brad, we got Michael Savage. After that, we're going to talk a lot about the logistics for tomorrow. So you're totally up to speed. Birch Gold want to thank the sponsorship of Birch Gold. Gold, by the way, blew through 3,700 yesterday. You notice I don't really talk about the price of gold because it's about the process that drives the value of gold. Birchgold.com promo code Bannon end of the dollar empire seven installed over four years. Boom. Get it. Read it, don't even have to understand it, just begin to understand it. Then talk to the experts at Birch Gold. That'd be Philip Patrick and the team. Or take your phone out, text Bannon. That would be me at 989-898 you get the free and ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age, not the era, the age of Trump. Just like the age of Jackson. Do it today. Check it out. Also home title lock. Great deal. Hometitle.com promo code Steve61 buck for 60 days of coverage for you to check it out, find out everything. Don't let cyber AI, rogue lawyers, accountants turn what is. Every dream you've ever had is in that home. Don't turn it into a nightmare where they take out a loan on it. You got to pay it off. Do not let that happen. Hometitleock.com promo code Steve60. A buck for 60 days. Come on man, you can do that. Check it out. Navarro, Savage brat on the other side. Hey, we're human. All too human. I don't always eat healthy. You don't always eat healthy. That's why doctors created Field of Greens. A delicious glass of Field of Greens daily is like nutritional armor for your body. Each fruit and each vegetable was doctor selected for a specific health benefit. There's a heart health group, lungs and kidney groups, metabolism, even healthy weight. I love the energy boost I get with Field of Greens. But most of all, I love the confidence that even if I have a cheat day or wait for it a burger, I can enjoy it guilt free. Because a field of greens, it's the nutrition my body needs daily and only Field of Greens makes you this better health. Promise your doctor will notice your improved health or your money back. Let me repeat that. Your doctor will notice your improved health or your money back. Let me get you started with my special discount. I got you 20% off your first order. Just use code Bannon B A N N O N at field of greens.com that's Code Bannon@Field of Greens.com 20% off. And if your doctor doesn't know how healthy you look and feel, you get a full money back guarantee. Field of greens.com code Bannon do it today.