Bannon’s War Room Episode 4794

Title: Dr Savage Shines Light More To Utah Assassination
Date: September 20, 2025

Overview

This episode convenes leading voices on the right—including Steve Bannon, Dr. Michael Savage, Dr. Peter Navarro, and Dr. Dave Brat—to process the political shockwaves following the assassination of conservative leader Charlie Kirk in Utah. The discussion explores skepticism about the official narrative, the fragility of trust in America’s institutions, the strategic direction of the conservative movement, border/national identity, and personal experiences with political repression. The episode serves both as a wakeup call and a call to action for “accountability” in the face of coordinated political, legal, and cultural attacks.

Main Themes

• The Controversial Assassination of Charlie Kirk: Profound questions and conspiracy theories.
• Critique of Institutional Narratives: Skepticism about law enforcement, government, and media portrayal.
• The State of the Conservative Movement: Calls for unity, strategy, and vigilance against perceived suppression.
• Borders, Language, Culture: Revisiting Dr. Savage’s foundational framework for American identity.
• Personal Sacrifice and Warnings: Dr. Navarro’s prison experience as symbolic of broader attacks.
• Reflections on Legacy: Charlie Kirk’s influence and the movement in his wake.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Federal Reserve and Treasury Debate

• [00:29] News clip features Bannon’s interview proposing that Scott Besant become both Treasury Secretary and Fed Chair:

  “I am a big believer that on an interim basis, that Scott Besson should be both the head of the Federal Reserve and the Secretary of Treasury…” —Steve Bannon (00:29)

• [04:08] Dr. Navarro and Dr. Savage debate the legitimacy and implications of overlapping economic roles.

  • Dr. Navarro: “I think that’s genius, actually…If nothing else, they’re going to let the Left’s head totally explode.” (04:00)

2. Trade, Tariffs, and Supreme Court Uncertainty

• [05:58] Navarro stresses the power and necessity of Trump-era tariffs, warning of catastrophe if the Court denies Trump’s authority:

  “If the Supreme Court chooses not to support his AIPA powers, it’s going to be a catastrophe…[Tariffs are] a get out of debt jail free card…” —Dr. Peter Navarro (06:35–09:05)

3. Political Persecution and Personal Cost

• [11:20] Navarro connects ongoing prosecutions of MAGA figures to asymmetrical political warfare:

  “The left is doing to us what we don’t do to them. And I went to prison so you won’t have to…If they can come for me, Bannon, Donald Trump…they can come for you.” —Dr. Peter Navarro (11:20–13:40)

• [14:20] On accountability as the “sixth stage of grief”:

  “If we don’t hold these people accountable for all the things that they’re doing to us, then they’re just going to keep doing it again.” —Dr. Peter Navarro (11:20)

4. Remembering Charlie Kirk & The Utah Assassination

• [17:09] Emotional tribute to Kirk:

  “When America needed a hero, God sent us a Charlie Kirk.” —Listener/Family Statement Quoted by Steve Bannon (17:09)

5. Dr. Savage Dissects the Assassination Narrative

• [22:05] – [24:02] Savage raises deep skepticism over official details—technical weapons inconsistencies, AI-generated text messages, staged evidence:

  “Something’s very wrong with what I just heard… I don’t believe a word of it… The government is lying to us.” —Dr. Michael Savage (22:05)

  “The waters are so muddied right now that it would take a diver with an acetylene torch to get into the wreck and pull out the corpse. I have no idea, Steve, what the hell is going on.” —Dr. Michael Savage (24:02)

• Points out social media analysis indicating possible AI-written communications between the alleged assassin and roommate (24:35).

• Emphasizes the generational importance of Kirk as a leader:

  “They killed the leader of the next generation of patriots.” —Dr. Michael Savage (25:41)

6. Distrust in Institutions & The Need for Accountability

• [35:53] Bannon, reflecting audience sentiment:

  “We need to get to the bottom of this. We need accountability. We need to know exactly what happened here because nothing makes sense…” —Steve Bannon

• [36:37] Savage, frustrated with opacity:

  “I don’t have any inside information. I use plain native intelligence… none of it adds up that this kid did it on his own.” —Dr. Michael Savage

7. “Borders, Language, Culture”—Savage’s Legacy

• [31:24–34:41] Dr. Savage unpacks his long-running slogan:

  “A nation is defined by its borders, language, and culture. Now, there’s not a nation on Earth...that should not be defined by its borders, language, and culture. That is exactly why the internationalists have gone after our borders and every border on the planet.” —Dr. Michael Savage (32:00)

  • Warns that culture, not “trans dance in the first grade,” means founding principles—the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.
  • Expresses fear there is no successor to Trump capable of upholding these principles.

8. Loss of Faith in American Institutions

• [35:53–38:42] Bannon and Savage connect American skepticism to a legacy of unsolved political assassinations and institutional coverups (JFK, MLK, etc.)

9. Why Dr. Savage is Banned from the UK

• [40:34–43:06] Savage reveals details of being banned from Britain—claims he was scapegoated over comments twisted by the media and political adversaries.

  “Inside the Democrat Party, they communicated with the then secretary…they made me the same equal to Russian skinheads...Hamas terrorists…Who would say a thing like [‘Kill 100 million Muslims’]? I didn’t.” —Dr. Michael Savage (42:46)

10. Reflections on Charlie Kirk’s Legacy & The Movement’s Future

• [46:50] Dr. Brat links the Kirk assassination to a long string of unsolved or suspicious attacks on American leaders, reiterates the importance of the foundational values (Adam Smith vs. Marx).

Notable Quotes & Moments

• [11:20] Dr. Peter Navarro: “The book If I May—I Went to Prison So You Won’t Have To—is really a wake up call to the American people that this war against MAGA, against Trump, against all of us, Steve, on our side of the fence...is an asymmetrical war...”

• [22:05] Dr. Michael Savage: “I know I shouldn’t do this. I’m risking an awful lot to go up against this FBI, the MAGA FBI. Something’s very wrong with what I just heard...I don’t believe a word of it.”

• [32:00] Dr. Michael Savage: “A nation is defined by its borders, language, and culture...That is exactly why the internationalists have gone after our borders and every border on the planet.”

• [35:53] Steve Bannon: “Because nothing makes sense. The videos don’t make sense. The text messages are an insult to people’s intelligence—a brazen insult...”

• [46:16] Dr. Michael Savage: “Trump can only be in office for a maximum...number of years, right? Then his administration’s over...there’s only one Trump and there’s no one to replace him that I can see.”

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:29–01:57 — Exclusive Bannon interview with Sean Spicer on Scott Besant/Fed debate
• 05:58–10:14 — Navarro on the economy, tariffs, and Supreme Court
• 11:20–14:32 — Navarro: “I went to prison so you won’t have to,” political persecution
• 22:05–27:53 — Dr. Savage’s viral clip critiquing the Utah assassination narrative
• 31:24–34:41 — Savage’s “Borders, Language, Culture” and its origins
• 40:34–43:06 — Savage on being banned from the UK
• 46:50–48:23 — Dr. Dave Brat: The meaning of Kirk’s death and threats to the republic

How to Connect with the Guests

• Dr. Michael Savage:
  X (Twitter) @ASavageNation / Podcast: MichaelSavage.com (~500 episodes)

  “Talk to God. He knows where I’ve come from and where I’m going…but I’m on X at a Savage Nation. My podcast is the Savage Nation podcast.” (45:01)

• Dr. Peter Navarro:
  peternavarro.substack.com / Book: I Went to Prison So You Won’t Have To (Amazon)

  “Go to Amazon right now, buy I Went to Prison So You Won’t Have To—get the book out. We have to get the message out.” (20:41)

Tone and Takeaways

The tone is urgent, defiant, and conspiratorial—a mix of nostalgia for foundational principles and anger at perceived lawlessness and coverup. Bannon’s War Room is depicted as the informational nerve center amid establishment betrayal; the message is one of vigilance, unity, and exigency as the conservative movement processes both a martyrdom and an ongoing campaign against its ranks.

For more:

• Watch full Charlie Kirk commemorative coverage and related discussions on Real America’s Voice and follow the War Room for continuing updates.