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Episode 4797: Trump Throws Down On Big Pharma; Americas Autism Epidemic
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Secretary Kennedy
And we have fast track research and guidance. Historically, NIH has focused almost solely on politically safe and entirely fruitless research about the genetic drivers of autism. That would be like studying the genetic drivers of lung cancer without looking at cigarettes. And that's what NIH has been doing for 20 years. As a result, we don't have an answer to this critical question. Despite the cataclysmic impact of the epidemic on our nation's children, we are now replacing the institutional culture of politicized science and corruption with evidence based medicine. NIH research teams are currently testing multiple hypotheses in no area off limits. We promise transparency as we uncover the potential causes and treatments, and we will notify the public regularly of our progress. Today we are announcing two important findings from our autism work that are vital for parents to know as they make these decisions. First, HHS will act on acetaminophen the FDA is responding to clinical and laboratory studies that suggest a potential association between acetaminophen used during pregnancy and adverse neurodevelopmental outcomes, including later diagnosis for ADHD and autism. Scientists have proposed biological mechanisms linking prenatal acetaminophen exposure to altered brain development. We have also evaluated the contrary studies that show no association. Today, the FDA will issue a physician's notice about the risk of acetaminophen during pregnancy and begin the process to initiate a safety label change. HHS will launch a nationwide public service campaign to inform families and protect public health. FDA also recognized that acetaminophen is often the only tool for fevers and pain in pregnancy, as other alternatives have well documented adverse effects. HHS wants therefore, to encourage clinicians to exercise their best judgment and the use of acetaminophen for fevers and pain in pregnancy by prescribing the lowest effective dose for the shortest necessary duration and only when treatment is required. Furthermore, thanks also to the politicization of science, the safety of acetaminophen against the risk of neurodevelopmental disorders in young children has never been validated. Prudent medicine therefore suggests caution and acetaminophen used by young children, especially since strong evidence also has associated it with liver toxicity. Some studies have also found the use of acetaminophen in children can potentially prolong viral illnesses. FDA will drive new research to safeguard mothers, children and families. In addition to a possible acetaminophen connection to autism for pregnant women, infants and toddlers, our research has revealed that folate deficiency in a child's brain can lead to autism. We have also identified an exciting therapy that may benefit large numbers of children who suffer from autism. Peer reviewed literature has documented that up to 60% of folate deficient children with ASD can and have improved verbal communications if given leucavorin. I have instructed nih, FDA and CMS help doctors treat children appropriately. Jay will help tell that story, which started with sound science, the kind that restores faith in government. This announcement also represents a historic collaboration between NIH and fda, CDC and cms. We expect this to be the first of many announcements over the coming years that deliver actionable information to parents on underlying cause of autism and the potential paths for prevention and reversal. Finally, autism is a complex disorder with multifactorial etiology. We are continuing to investigate a multiplicity of potential causes with no areas of taboo. One area that we are closely examining, as the President mentioned, is vaccines. Some 40 to 70% of mothers who have children with autism believe that their child was injured by a vaccine. President Trump believes that we should be listening to these mothers instead of gaslighting and marginalizing them like prior administrations. Some of our friends like to say we should believe all women. Some of these same people have been silencing and demonizing these mothers for three decades. Because research on the potential link between autism and vaccines has been actively suppressed in the past, it will take time for an honest look at this topic by scientists. I want to reassure the people in the autism community that and we will be uncompromising and relentless in our search for answers. We will perform the studies that should have been performed 25 years ago. Whatever the answer is, we will tell you what we find. We are researching this issue to all three agencies. Jay will discuss one of our research initiatives at nih. This model of unleashing unbiased, depoliticized gold standard scientific research and academic freedom to deliver actionable information to prevent and reverse disease will be a model for the framework to deliver similar results from any other chronic conditions that plague Americans. Jay.
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Dr. Bhattacharya
Thank you Secretary Kennedy and thank you President Trump.
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President Trump
Thank you very much.
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Dr. Bhattacharya
I'm proud to announce today that the NIH has launched the Autism Data Science Initiative to turbocharged autism research, devoting an additional $50 million to the cause of studying autism. Nearly 250 research teams from across the country applied, sent in their applications and were peer reviewed by the NIH review panels. The NIH peer Reviews chose the 13 best projects focused on root causes and therapies with replication and validation studies to guarantee gold standard science. The studies feature a new kind of science called exposomics where scientists consider environmental and medical factors, nutrition events during pregnancy, in combination with biology and genetics to answer vital questions about autism. Science like this, conducted in partnership with families and physicians, is the best way to arrest and reverse the autism epidemic. Autism spectrum disorder encompasses a very wide range of symptoms, ranging from mild difficulties with social interactions to profoundly autistic children who experience severe disabilities in speech and behavior. Given this wide range of symptoms across the spectrum, it seems certain that there will be a wide range of biological contributors to explaining the cause. The great thing about the new NIH initiative on autism is that scientists will use rigorous, advanced methods in causal inference, machine learning, organoids, and other fresh approaches to the problem. The sharp rise in the prevalence of autism deserves an urgent response by the scientific community. As Bobby said, the NIH has invested a lot of money to study autism over the years, but the research has not produced the answers that families and parents of autistic children deserve and autistic children themselves deserve. For too long, it's been taboo to ask some questions for fear the scientific work might reveal a politically incorrect answer. Because of this restricted focus in scientific investigations, the answers for families have been similarly restricted, often pointing families to behavioral therapies that don't work for every kid or suggest non modifiable genetic factors is the cause. But genetics alone can't explain such a sharp rise in autism prevalence over just a few decades. As the President said, in coming months and years, as NIH scientists learn more that can help autistic children and their families, we won't delay like scientists often like to do. I can say as a scientist myself, it's really tempting to delay, but you have to. But in a. In face of a problem like this, you have to move fast. We will not delay before telling American people about what we find, and we will win the public trust with transparency and rigor. Already, our broadened focus on autism research has pointed to two items that will help families prevent and treat some cases of autism. I'll leave the good news on these two items to my close friends and colleagues, Dr. Makary and Dr. Ross. We've been working together closely on this problem for the past six months, and our cooperation represents an unprecedented collaboration with Secretary Kennedy's Department of Health and Human Services and with President Trump. I'm delighted to introduce Dr. Marty Makary, Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, who will tell you about these announcements of practical help for families with autism.
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President Trump
Great.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Thank you, Dr. Bhattacharya. Mr. President, this is the start of a historic shift in Medical culture. This administration is working together to ask big questions about why our nation's children are getting sick so fast. Too often, medicine is doing small little studies, giving us answers we already knew. But we've got to make a difference. You've given us a charge to identify root causes, and we are not going to stop so that we can end the suffering. We are watching. And if you've seen a kid with autism, with severe autism, it's hard to watch. Kids get frustrated, they get angry. They can be crying because they want to speak and they can't speak. It's hard to watch. And it may be entirely preventable. For an epidemiologist, that child is an expanding statistic. But for a child, it can be brutal to have autism. Today, the FDA is taking action to update the label on acetaminophen and sending a letter to all US doctors letting them know about the risks in pregnancy. We now have data we cannot ignore. There's a very large study, the Boston Birth Cohort, with researchers that have from Johns Hopkins, my former institution, and Boston University, found consistent associations between acetaminophen in pregnancy and autism. The Nurses Health Study, with researchers from Yale, Columbia and Harvard looking at 9,000 kids, found that acetaminophen use in pregnancy was associated with neurodevelopmental disorders. Four weeks ago, a Mount Sinai Harvard study reviewed all the existing literature and found the overwhelming body of evidence points to an association. Sure, you'll be able to find a study to the contrary. That's how science works. But to quote the dean of the Harvard School of Public Health, there is a causal relationship between prenatal acetaminophen use and neurodevelopmental disorders of ADHD and autism spectrum disorder. We cannot wait any longer. And honestly, there's been this perfunctory, reactionary, mindless practice in medicine. I learned it in medical school and residency. Just treat all fevers, low grade fevers, treat them with acetaminophen. Why? What are we doing? A study out of Hopkins actually showed that treating a fever can prolong the duration of illness in a young kid. Maybe that's because a fever is a body's natural way of ridding an infection. When my wife was pregnant and delivered our son a few months ago, they pushed her to take acetaminophen for a low grade fever. She said no. And then they looked to me and I said, absolutely.
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President Trump
New.
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Dr. Marty Makary
I'm also here to announce good news. Today the FDA is filing a Federal Register notice to change the label on an exciting treatment called prescription leucovorin so that it can be available to children with autism. You know, autism is may also be due to a autoimmune reaction to a folate receptor on the brain, not allowing that important vitamin to get into the brain cells. It's a fairly established mature pathway. Again, we have a duty to let doctors and the public know we are going to change the label to make it available. Hundreds of thousands of kids, in my opinion, will benefit. One study found that with kids with autism and chronic folate deficiency, two thirds of kids with autism symptoms had improvement and some marked improvement. Mr. President, you told us to do what's medically right, to go bold and not worry about the corporations and the lobbyists. So that's what we're here doing today. Thank you, Mr. President.
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President Trump
Good. Thank you.
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CMS Representative
Thanks, Marty. I think you all appreciate the passion in the President's voice. We've been hearing that since the inauguration. In fact, even before the inauguration, the President was upset about what he spoke to today. And so together with Secretary Kennedy, who's made it his life's work to address some of these challenges with autism, they challenged us. In fact, they were harsher than that. They wanted no silos to break down what the NIH would do, what the FDA would do, what CMS would do. They insisted that the physician leaders bust through the clutter because their agencies had the power, if we didn't do what every other prior administration had done, which is to let people function within their siloed environments. Because of that, in historic fashion, in a very accelerated manner. We have a response today to the autism crisis. It is the first of several chapters, but this is breaking news. You've heard some of it. The response to the autism crisis is going to continue to come to you under Secretary Kennedy's leadership. And the President wouldn't have it any other way. As you've heard, the fda. The fda, based on NIH research, is approving prescription leucovorin for treatment of autistic children. Now, if you're following the script, there should be two questions that you have. Two questions that should come to your mind. The first is, how will patients and parents get access to the treatment? I'll tell you how. Over half of American children are covered by Medicaid and chip, government health insurance. Over half, therefore, because they're covered in Medicaid and chip. Upon this label change by Marty State, Medicaid programs in partnership with CMS will cover prescription leukovorin around the country. It's yours, but you have to go to a doctor to get a prescription because they know your child, they know you and they know the medication. States will also have tools to monitor its use and ensure appropriate utilization. That's important for a bunch of reasons because we want the right kids getting the right prescription medications. We believe private insurance companies will rapidly follow our lead if they have not already done so. And again, to make sure that this is safe and effective treatment. You need a physician to prescribe to prescript the medication because it's on prescription. Second big question, how are we going to collect clinical data to answer the big questions that the President is asking and the Secretary insist that we offer? CMS is also issuing guidance to convene states and and existing research networks to support NIH and FDA in their research efforts of prescription leucovorin while also maintaining the privacy of all patients, all health information of our beneficiaries. Collecting real world data, which is what many of you have been asking us to do in the community is fast. It is life saving and we'll get answers based on what happens over the next few months with this approach. The aggressive approach and it is aggressive demanded by the President and by the Secretary have already identified risk factors and opened the door for the first the first FDA recognized treatment pathway for autism. It is the first of its kind and it wouldn't have happened without the leadership of the President and the Secretary. The fivefold increased prevalence of autism over the past 25 years demands a rapid response. The average clinician researcher we spoke to many thought it would take five years to get this data. Parents are unwilling to wait five years. The President is unwilling to wait five years for these results. So the President and the Secretary are acting today with this tri agency move. The administration's bold actions investing in groundbreaking research follow the science. They restore trust which has been lacking and they will change the trajectory for millions of American families. Mr. President, God bless you for being brave.
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President Trump
Thank you very much.
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CMS Representative
Let me introduce Dr. Fink who was acting administrator. And after Dr. Fink, we've got some wonderful women, Jackie and Amanda. I know it's going to be tough but if you can make some comments about this historic day. God bless you.
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Dr. Fink
Thank you Mr. President for this opportunity to speak with all of you today. As a pediatrician and mom, I'm here today to talk about what this announcement means for the millions of moms and dads who are faced with the choice of whether to take acetaminophen during pregnancy. It's hard to hear information that challenges the status quo. We are sharing this information not to confuse, but to empower parents to make the best choices when taking medications during pregnancy. We are all concerned about the rising rates of neurodevelopmental disorders, including autism. President Trump and Secretary Kennedy are dedicated to radical transparency so that patients have the best, most up to date information. We are also sharing this information with our nation's doctors. And we encourage you, as always, to consult with your doctor to make the best decision for you. All too often, it's easy to think that medicines we buy without a prescription pose little to no risk for the mom or the baby. As you heard today, pregnant women who need high fever or pain reduction during pregnancy should take the lowest effective dose of acetaminophen for the shortest possible duration. Most women will not meet these indications during their pregnancies. I am encouraged by these developments today because it is another example of our commitment to the American people to leave no stone unturned in improving the health of our nation's children. Next, I'm going to turn it over to some incredible mothers who are going to share more about their stories. And we're so grateful to have you here today.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. President and team, for all your work. This is a historic day and I'm thankful to be here. I have a son who's five who is profoundly autistic. And you've probably heard if you've met one autistic child, you've met one autistic child. It's a spectrum, which I don't think the spectrum is helpful, but that's another conversation. He is an amazing little boy. A blessing from God. He, he's marvelous. He can count to a thousand. He knows all of his letters and the sounds they make and a word for each one. But he also has a lot of obstacles. He is non verbal. He can say those numbers and letters, but there's no communication. Unless you've lived with profound autism, you have no idea. You have no idea. He, like you said, he will get frustrated because he can't speak. It's not even that he can't speak sometimes he just doesn't understand what I'm saying. He understands the word no, but he doesn't understand the why behind the no. And that's a huge part of discipline. That's the discipline. So it's very hard to discipline a child with autism. So you have these behaviors and it's very hopeless feeling. It's very isolating being a parent with a profound autistic child, even just taking them over to your friend's House is something we just don't do because again, they're going to be met with no, no, no, and no understanding of why. And then there's a meltdown and then you're in a situation where you're just helpless and you're just trying to protect your kid. So it's just better not to do it. You learn your limits and it's been really hard. This is amazing that we're here today and I can't. No one has been able to point to anything and say this is what caused it. And you can't point to that and say it didn't cause it. I have no idea. I am completely open, not blaming anything, but I'm open to discussion and the fact that there's work being done to find answers. I'm very grateful. I was already excited to vote for Mr. Trump anyway, Mr. President, but when we got word of RFK doing his work, I was ecstatic. I could not wait for this work to be done, that somebody would try to find us some answers. I'm just very grateful. I pray for my son every day and hope that he can get the help that he needs and just thank you.
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President Trump
Thank you.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Thank you very much.
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President Trump
Thank you.
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Jackie (Mother of autistic child)
Hi, my name is Jackie. I'm also extremely grateful for the opportunity to be here and share my son's story. My son is Eddie. He's 11. He's on the opposite end of the spectrum from what Amanda just explained. He's considered high functioning. He was not always high functioning. He was non verbal till the age four. We've had quite, quite a hard time to get to the place where we are today. I am just so grateful to President Trump and the entire administration for finally listening to moms who have been crying out for help for answers for years. I've met so many other moms with children on the spectrum in the nine years since my son's diagnosis, and they all have very similar stories. And they've all just wanted somebody to listen to, not ridicule them or look at them like they were the crazy people. It's hard when you don't have doctors that take the time to really listen and find out when the change happened and what change happened. And it's just, I've been praying for this day for nine years. And I'm so thankful to God for bringing the administration into our lives. And I am just. I'm speechless. This day is a day I never thought would happen. I thought that we would never have an administration that was courageous enough to look into things that no prior administration had. So I'm just here to express my gratitude and I am looking forward to what comes from this and hopefully we just get more answers. So thank you.
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President Trump
Thank you very much. So I just want to say acetaminophen is basically Tylenol, essentially, because I noticed that term is used throughout this conference. So it's essentially Tylenol. And I just recommend strongly that you don't use Tylenol as it's absolutely necessary. They, I understand it's maybe 10% of the women that are pregnant are, you know, would perhaps be forced to use it, and that would mean you just can't tough it out. No matter what you do, you can't tough it out. So that's up to you and your doctor. But this is a very strong recommendation, maybe stronger from me from, than from the group, because they're waiting for certain studies. I don't, I just want to say, I want to say it like it is. Don't take Tylenol. Don't take it if you just can't. I mean, it's. Fight like hell not to take it. There may be a point where you have to and that you'll. You have to work out with yourself. So don't take Tylenol. Other things that we recommend, or certainly I do anyway, is. And it's so important to me to take, see the doctor four times or five times for a vaccine. Don't let them pump your baby up with the largest pile of stuff you've ever seen in your life. Going into the delicate little body of a baby, even if it's two years, three years, four years, you just break it up into, I would say five, but let's say four, four visits to the doctor instead of one. And certain things I think you should do. We have already taken out and are in the process of taking out mercury and aluminum now. You know what mercury is? You know what aluminum is. Who the hell wants that pumped into a body? And there were rumors about both of them for a long time, but we're having them taken out. We're having them taken out of the vaccines. Hepatitis B again, that's sexually transmitted. And we think you should wait. I think you should wait till 12. You know, I'm making these statements from me, I'm not making them from these doctors. Because when they, they talk about, you know, different results, different studies, I talk about a lot of common sense. And they have that too. They have that too a lot. But I recommend the hepatitis B take, take it at 12. Sexually transmitted you don't have to give it to the baby when the baby's two years old. And there are a lot of theories on that, but not when they're 12. It's not, doesn't seem to be a problem at all. The MMR and the chickenpox. Chickenpox has already been broken out. It's a singular shot, but the MMR is not. And I've heard for years that there's a problem with it. But they say that there's no problem if you do each shot separately, not put together. So on mmr, get, go out and do it separately. Don't take Tylenol. Don't give Tylenol to the baby after the baby's born. Every time the baby gets a shot, the baby goes, gets a shot. They say, here, take a cup of Tylenol. I've heard that for years. Take Tylenol, don't take Tylenol. Don't have your baby. Take Tylenol. Now, Tylenol is fine for people that aren't pregnant, that aren't in the situation that we're talking about. One very specific situation. If you're pregnant, don't take Tylenol when you have your baby. Don't give your baby Tylenol at all unless it's absolutely necessary. Don't do it. Break up your visits to the doctors. Break them up. Do it in five if you can. Now. It's inconvenient. It's inconvenient. Oh, you're going to have to go back another year later. You're going to go back each year for four years, five years, three years. Just break it up. Break it up. Because it's too much liquid. Too many different things are going into that baby. At too big, at too big a number. The size of this thing, when you look at it, it's like 80 different vaccines and beyond vaccines and 80, then you give that to a little kid. I mean, I can tell you that I had a woman who worked for me, a beautiful, wonderful woman, worked in Trump Tower and she had the most perfect child. Beautiful, just perfect. And I remember this little blond haired boy running around the lobby of Trump Tower, so healthy and so vibrant. And I said, that's great. One day I came in and she was crying her eyes out behind the counter. She was, she worked at the front desk. She was crying her eyes out. I've never, as much as I've ever seen anyone distraught. She was. I said, are you okay? What happened? My boy, my boy. I've lost my boy. What does that mean your boy. My boy? You know him, sir. You've seen him grow up. He was so beautiful. And I took him for a vaccine, sir, and he developed this unbelievable. I think she said, 107, 108. You know, it goes well beyond when this happens. It goes up to 106, 107, 108. You know, we hear 105 and you're in trouble, but it just goes up to a level that you never hear about, but it goes up very high. And they get. It's fried. They get fried. She said, I took him. He got. Developed an unbelievable temperature. And I've lost him, sir. He's gone. And then I saw the boy. It was a whole. It was so tragic to see. That was the following day. That was the following day after the vaccine. And I've seen it two other times, and I think three other times, but two other times where they go to the doctor and they get the vaccine, they get the shot. The kid is, you know, badly hurt, let's be nice, badly hurt, and just do it. Break it up into five, break it up into four, break it up into three if you have to, but go to the doctor four times instead of once or five times instead of once. And for some reason, they insist that you put it all into the body. And maybe that's the drug companies that make more money that way. Maybe it's the doctors because they don't want to be, you know, doing this so much. Maybe it was. Maybe it's the doctors. They get maybe more money. Who the hell knows what it is? Don't do it. Get them broken into four or five visits. Do it. Four or five. That means you have 20%, 25% what you're putting into the baby's body. It can only help. It can only help. And the other things I told you about, just the word, tough it out. You know, it's easy for me to say tough it out, but sometimes in life with a lot of other things, you have to tough it out also. Don't take Tylenol. Don't give Tylenol to the baby. When the baby is born, they throw it at you here, throw. Give them a couple of Tylenol. They give them a shot, they give them a vaccine. And every time they give them a vaccine, they're throwing Tylenol. And some of these babies, they, you know, they. They're long born, and all of a sudden they're gone. And it doesn't hurt. Not to do. Doesn't hurt. There's no downside. There's no downside at all. And break up mmr. Break it up. It's practically a known fact that if you break it up, you're not going to have a problem. But for years we've been hearing how bad MMR is as a combination. And I'm very happy that you broke out chickenpox, because that was really a problem. And there are other things. It's interesting because there are other things other than we were talking about other different drugs, pills that you take that we know are so bad and they don't take them anymore, but for some reason with this, they keep taking it. Don't take Tylenol. There's no downside. Don't take it. You'll be uncomfortable. It won't be as easy, maybe, but don't take it if you're pregnant, don't take Tylenol and don't give it to the baby after the baby is born. And, you know, we have more than three years left. And I told Bobby and the doctors behind me and they are so committed to this, I told them that this is the number one thing I want to do from you. And, you know, we have something else called favored nations, where I'm going to be reducing drug prices by 1,000%, by 900, 600, 500 people, 1,200. We're going to be reducing drug prices at levels never seen. It's called favorite nations. We're going to be paying what the. Right now, we're like the garbage can for the rest of the world. And we have been for forever. We pay much higher for drugs than the rest of the world. We subsidize the rest of the world. We're not doing that anymore. And that's a big thing. That's a big thing that's bigger than anything. I told the story the other night that I was so proud in my first term that for the final year, drug prices went down one quarter of 1%. And I was so proud, I said, why? I'm the first one to do it. I think it was 28 years, they said, where drug prices went down from the beginning of the term till the end. And I was so proud, I called a news conference. I said, you know, drug prices have gone down. First time it's happened in 28 years. You know what? It was 1/4 of 1%. I was so proud. Now we're going to have a go down from $100 a pill to $9 a pill from $1,300 for a shot of like an Ozempic or the fat. I call it the fat pill or the fat drug. Sometimes it works, I guess, for people. The ones I've seen, it hasn't worked so well. I got a lot of friends. They have fat. They said, yeah, I lost some weight. I said, you don't look at. To me, but they paid $1,300, $1,200. And they go to London and they pay $88. And they call me. They go, what's this all about? We're subsidizing the rest of the world stupidly, because we have a lot of stupid people in this country running things. And how big is that? But to me, that's nothing compared to autism. I see that gorgeous boy. I have a big president for him in the back. You know, you bring him back, we're going to bring him into the Oval Office. I have the best president he's ever going to get. Okay. A big one. I saved it for you. Okay. Because I heard you were coming. Look how beautiful he is. So that's it. There's nothing much to say. Don't take Tylenol if you're pregnant and don't give Tylenol to your child when he's born or she's born. Don't give it. Just don't give it. And we're going to have. I think, really, if you do the things that I say, Break it up. Just break it up. Break up the shots with the doctor. Mmrs, as I told you. Separate. Separate. Separate chickenpox already. Separate. You do these things. I'm telling you, I want to. When I leave office, I don't want to have. It's going to be the kind of number that we're hearing where it's 1 in 32 or 1 in 10. Because I've heard 1 in 10 also. And in California, it's really bad. I want it to be. Let's get it back to maybe 1 in 10,000 or 1 in 20,000 or maybe none in 20,000. And the only way you're going to do that, because this is artificially induced. This is induced by something. You don't go from 1 in 20,000 to 1 in 10,000, then to 1 in 10. That means you're taking something and something's wrong. And I feel very certain, and I know I'll be criticized someday. They'll look back and they'll say, well, it wasn't, but I think it will. I think we're going to have a tremendous. I want. This is one of the most this is the most important. There's nothing more important than me. We cured inflation that Biden gave us. He gave us so much inflation, the biggest ever in history. We got inflation done. We brought prices down. We gave you the largest tax cuts. All that stuff, it doesn't mean a thing compared to what we're doing today. This means everything. So we're going to save a lot of children from a tough life. Really tough life. We're going to save a lot of parents from a tough life. Okay, how about a few questions? Let's just make it on this subject. This is so beyond as a subject that I'd rather not talk about. You know, some nonsense on the economy. And I will say this. The economy is unbelievable. The stock market just hit another record high and all that stuff. This means more to me. Yeah.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Please, Mr. President, I have one on your announcement, one on vaccines that's also related.
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President Trump
Yes.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Why do you think we haven't heard more previously about the tie to autism in acetaminophenia?
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President Trump
Nobody knows. I don't know. Not only that, when you say it, you get attacked. I was saying something similar. Not as strongly because. Because now facts are on our side. But I was saying it with Bobby 20 years ago, and I was attacked. I said, whoa, what was that all about? I had no idea. You get attacked. I don't know. The medical community, drug companies, doctors. I don't know what it is all I want to do. I don't care. I don't care about being attacked. It doesn't matter to me. I believe that the numbers at the end of our term or shortly thereafter could be really. I want it to go up just. Just like it came down to this horrible level. 1 in 10, 1 in 12. I was told 1 in 10. I was told 1 in 12. Today I heard 1 in 31. If you add the girls and the boys together, it's crazy. And it was 1 in 10,000 and 1 in 20,000. It's not even sustainable for a country. You want to know the truth? And there are other places that don't have it and they have things in common, and that's called medical research. Yeah. Please, Mr.
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Interviewer/Moderator
Person, I'm curious, as you look at the trend lines, how much of this is the causation of acetaminophen and how much is sort of better diagnosis, Doctors, researchers, having a better understanding of what is on the autism spectrum?
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President Trump
Do you want to do that? Sure, go ahead.
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Secretary Kennedy
That's one of the canard that has been promoted by the industry for many years. That it's changed diagnostic criteria or better recognition. But there's been study after study that completely debunks that. One of them by the MIND Institute at UC Davis, University of California. But also it's just common sense because you're only seeing this in people who are under 50 years of age. If it were better recognition or diagnosis, you'd see it in 70 year old men. I've never seen this happening in people my age. I've never seen a case of full blown autism and that means profound autism. I want to be very careful. Head banging, stimming, toe walking, nonverbal, non toilet train. I've never in my life seen a 70 year old man who looks like that. You're only seeing it in the kids. It's an epidemic.
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President Trump
Thank you, Mr. President. I was hoping that you could clear up confusion for moms and dads across.
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Interviewer/Moderator
America, many of whom voted for you.
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President Trump
There's a statement that was put out.
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Interviewer/Moderator
By the American College of Obstetricians and.
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President Trump
Gynecologists and in their statement they write.
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Interviewer/Moderator
Acemetophen remains a safe, trusted option for.
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President Trump
Pain relief during pregnancy. And that's at odds with what you said and with what many of the experts say. How do you establish that's the establishment. They're funded by lots of different groups. And you know what, maybe they're right. I don't think they are because I don't think the facts bear it out at all. They're fighting for something that in my opinion they shouldn't be fighting for. But here's the thing. There's no downside to doing other than a mother will have to, as I say, tough it out a little bit. There's no downside to doing this. It's not like, oh, if you do this, you're going to die. There's no downside. There's no downside to going over a four year or a five year period or a three year period or even if you space them out for six months, you space it out, there's no downside. And that's why I will say the gentleman behind me, they have very strong views and they feel that we're right, but they'll have more research done over the next two months. I said, well, two months is a long time. A lot of people can be saved and there's no downside to doing it. Everything I said, there's no downside to doing it can only be good. And I think you're going to see very good results. That's establishment stuff. And We've been reading that about a lot of things for years. And you know what's happened? We've gone from 1 in 20,000 to 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 32 to 1 in 10. Think of it, 1 in 10 or 12 or 1 in 31. Think of it, 1 in 31 people, young kids get autism. What is it?
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Journalist/Questioner
Jeff, my question is about Luke Kovarin. You mentioned that as part of your plan that is also a chemotherapy treatment. Have you been in touch with the drug companies to why don't I have the doctor answer that I'm going to throw in my follow up. At the same time Dr. Oz mentioned that this will be available with CHIP children who are on CHIP. But the great the Big beautiful bill reduced funding for CHIP and Medicaid by a trillion dollars over the next 10 years. Are you concerned that that will impact your ability to get this.
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President Trump
Explain it to you in a second, but please go ahead. Thank you.
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Dr. Marty Makary
Thank you. Leucovorin is not a chemotherapy, but it is a vitamin given with chemotherapy sometimes. And the idea here is that the folic acid receptor in the brain is blocked by some antibody response, might be 20, 40, 50% of kids with autism and leucovorin will bypass that blocked receptor. And that's why so many doctors are probably seeing so much clinical improvement on kids with leucovorin.
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Journalist/Questioner
So are you going to increase production?
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Dr. Marty Makary
Yeah, we've been in touch with the companies and they are prepared to ramp up production. And we actually talked to them about a month ago.
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President Trump
And on your second part of your nasty question, the number is that the great Big beautiful bill, which is the greatest, I think one of the best things ever passed in the history with the tax cuts and regulation cuts and all of the things it does, no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime or all of it does. It also gives $200 million as just explained by Dr. Oz. And I'd like you to explain that to exactly what you're saying.
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CMS Representative
The Big beautiful bill actually increases Medicaid spending projected over the next 10 years by $200 billion. There's also a $50 billion rural health transformation Fund which will allow a lot of these programs to get into rural parts of the country that the president and Congress are handing to governors to start distributing. Those grants have already gone out. The the money will be allocated by the end of this calendar year. And I want to point out that the ability of NIH to do research that feeds and hands the ball to the fda, which then can Change labeling to allow Medicaid programs in states to fund this program will ensure that the things that President Trump and Secretary Kennedy desire are financially affordable for the families around America.
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Dr. Marty Makary
You mentioned chip, sir.
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Journalist/Questioner
That's why I asked that question. You mentioned that CHIP would fund this for children.
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CMS Representative
Well, most of the kids are on Medicaid. Probably 43% on Medicaid, another 8, 10% on CHIP. And all the programs in general are being evaluated. Most of what the one big beautiful bill was seeking to do was to remove fraud, waste and abuse. But the programs themselves should stay financially intact for the people for whom they were designed, and in this case, for children.
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President Trump
And the only. The only thing we cut. So that's 200 billion positive. The only thing we cut was for fraud, waste and abuse, of which there was a lot in this country. And nobody minds that.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Yeah, please, Mr. President, you said that there is no reason to give newborn babies hepatitis B vaccines, but hepatitis B can be contracted not just during sexually transmitted diseases. Needles to open wounds. So when you say you feel, you know, is that appropriate to be telling?
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President Trump
I think it's absolutely appropriate. I think they should wait till they're 12 years old. Yes, please, Mr. President.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Thank you all for your being here. You've been talking about reducing autism by spacing out vaccines. Would you like other combined vaccines babies receive to be spaced out like mmrb?
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President Trump
What is this again?
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
You've been talking.
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President Trump
Speak up, please, sir.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
You've been talking about reducing autism by spacing out vaccines.
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President Trump
Correct.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Would you like the other combined vaccines babies receive to be spaced out like mmrb?
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President Trump
I would say yes, but that just is. For me, it's a lot of common sense involved in this. It's a process, but we're looking. But it should at least be given separately. Now, it's possible that you can reduce them and give it. I give them in small doses, but it's possible. Maybe in that particular case, the MMR wouldn't work in small doses, but you can certainly give them as separate shots. It's been proven to be very safe when you give them in separate shots instead of mixing, so I don't think there's any reason to do that. Do you agree with it? I'm not a doctor, but I'm giving my opinion. I don't think there's any reason to do that. So it's been proven to be safe when you break them up. But MMR by itself, I've heard bad things about it for many years. Yes, please, Mr. President, is the spectrum.
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Dr. Fink
Too broad in your Opinion for research purposes, you are dealing with a population.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Of children who might have social boundary difficulties.
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President Trump
And then you have children who are.
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Interviewer/Moderator
You know, going to grow up to.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Be adults in diapers. I mean, what do you think?
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President Trump
We don't know how broad the spectrum is. We don't know exactly where it starts and where it ends. But we do know what we're going through. We're going through some very serious trouble. And we know autism, I mean, it's. It could be bigger, it could be small, a little bit smaller, but the number is unacceptable. And the number, the way it's come down, the way. Because the spectrum's remained the same, the number the way it's come down is just unacceptable, meaning come down to that level of 1 in 10, 1 in 12, 1 in 31.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Mr. President, Mr. President, medical professional.
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President Trump
Go ahead. In the back.
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Interviewer/Moderator
This question is more directed towards Secretary Kennedy.
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President Trump
It was talked about that we're just.
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Jackie (Mother of autistic child)
Kind of finding out about the fact.
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President Trump
That babies are affected this way. Is there a concern that information is being suppressed right now within HHS and.
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Jackie (Mother of autistic child)
Could an investigation perhaps be launched, seeing any more?
- [46:55]
President Trump
Well, I think information has been really not given out very freely over the years. Absolutely. And I think that's by drug companies and maybe doctors. But I certainly think that over the years, I think this is a different group. We have a lot of information. And that information, I mean, it's the information that we have that we're making these statements and. And I'm making them out front and I'm making them loud and I'm making them strongly not to take Tylenol, not to take it. Just don't take it unless it's absolutely necessary. And there's not too many cases where that will be the case. And again, what's the worst? The worst is nothing can happen. It's very positive. That's a positive thing. But I don't believe that's that. I don't actually believe that's possible. I think the results are going to be amazing. I want to see amazing results by the time I leave this beautiful building. And I will consider this. I believe, you know, with the wars, I've stopped seven different wars. I've saved millions of lives. I've done a lot of things. This will be as important as any single thing I've done because I know ladies, beautiful ladies just like this that are going through the same thing, and it's not easy. And I admire you for being able to do it. But I admire him, too. I wish I had a face that looked like that. If I looked like him, I would have been president a long time ago.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Is widely used in other countries too. As you make this announcement, do you expect your decision may affect.
- [48:29]
President Trump
I hope they follow it. Yeah. I hope they follow it. Yeah. Other countries are, you know, sell Tylenol, some countries don't. I mean, I hear Cuba now again, you'll have to check this out, but I hear Cuba doesn't have it because it's very expensive and they don't have the money to have it or they don't want to spend the money to have it. They don't have Tylenol and I hear they have essentially no autism. So you have to, you'll have to check it out. Yeah.
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Jackie (Mother of autistic child)
Brian, medical professionals have warned for decades.
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President Trump
No, I'm sure. No, not you. You're CNN, you're fake news. Go ahead, Brian. Thank you, Mr. President.
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CMS Representative
I want to go back to the Amish community if I can just for second. I recently saw a man from Minnesota, an Amish man from Minnesota on a.
- [49:09]
President Trump
Podcast and the host asked him what the rates were for like ADHD and autism and he had no idea about.
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CMS Representative
Adhd, didn't know that existed and certainly didn't know of any cases. What are they doing?
- [49:21]
President Trump
It doesn't exist with the Amish community and they don't take all of this junk. It doesn't exist. That tells you, doesn't that tell you? That's like, you know, that's like certain countries where it doesn't exist and they don't take it. Would you like to make a comment about that, Mark?
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Dr. Marty Makary
The Amish population, a very mixed group, so there's a subset that take vaccines, a subset that does not. And we know they have very low rates of chronic disease all across the board.
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President Trump
Please.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Thank you.
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President Trump
Mr. President, should the establishment media show at least some openness to, you know, figure trying to figure out what the causes of osteoporosis? I wish they would, yeah. Why? Why are they so close minded? Well, look, it's not only the media, in all fairness. It's some people when you talk about vaccines, they go crazy. And you know, I'm a big supporter of vaccines. I got a certain vaccine approved in nine months. It would have taken from five to 12 years. I'm very proud of it. A lot of people think it was one of the greatest things I've done and some people think mostly Republicans, actually, I'll tell you, the Democrats think it was. They think Operation Warp Speed was one of the greatest things any president has done. Any president. It's, you know, we're very proud of what happened. We got, we got hit with something that came from a place that shouldn't have happened, but it did happen. You know, those things take place. And you're very unpleasantly surprised. But no, I'm a big believer in vaccines, the polio vaccine. Big, big believer in vaccines. I know Bobby and you guys have it out a little bit, but he's a believer in vaccines too. But I've seen how great vaccines can be, how incredible they can be. So I'm a, I'm a believer. Yeah, yeah.
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Amanda (Mother of autistic child)
Please, you, your comments have been about MMR and Hepatitis B. I know that those were your suggestions, but have you spoken with Secretary Kennedy about actually making those changes?
- [51:19]
President Trump
I have, yeah, I have. I've spoken to all the doctors about it and doctors that are not here right now. I've spoken to many doctors about all of everything we're talking about. And you know, the Tylenol has started to be spoken of over the last period of time. But we've been doing the research. A lot of what they've been speaking about comes from right here by research done by these people. And I just say it again, don't take Tylenol, don't take it and don't give it to your child after your child is born and do all those other things, little things, just spread out your visits, et cetera, et cetera, on the vaccine. And I want to thank everybody. This is a very important day. Thank you very much.
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CMS Representative
What do you mean when the Democratic leader.
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President Trump
Sir.
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Interviewer/Moderator
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Interviewer/Moderator
Folks, we've watched a lot of President Trump, we've watched a lot of candidate Trump. We've really been, I guess with President Trump since 2015. I think that was one of the most important sessions I've ever seen for the president states. Remember today we were talking that this was, you know, with Mary Holland, this was going to come up and you know, we didn't know when the report was coming out was this slow walking report. President Trump just dropped bombshell after bombshell that is going to be studied in years to come. In an hour he went through and just eviscerated, I think big Pharma. Although at the end say he's a huge supporter of vaccines. I don't know if that was my initial takeaway. One takeaway I did write down in my number two pencil was do not take Tylenol, which he said about 50 times. I can imagine they're getting a lawsuit ready right now. He said there's no adhd. This was incredible. Incredible. Do I have, I think I got Dr. Brian Hooker and we're going to go to break in a couple of minutes and start the 6:00 clock show. Dr. Hooker, I'm not sure do we actually need the autism report now? I guess we got to put the facts out. But did the president states just eviscerate the big pharma, sir. Okay, Dr. Hooker, you gotta, you gotta unmute yourself, sir. Okay, let's go to Dr. Hooker when we get him. Dr. Hooker. Got to learn how to learn the technology, sir. Absolutely stunning. President United States comes out for the initial for the Tylenol, I guess report. They're going to then talk about, they have a huge roundtable on Thursday that we're going to cover live at at Real America's Voice and War Room. It goes from noon to 5 at the Willard Hotel on Thursday with all these prominent experts, including Dr. Hooker. We're going to cover that. And then the autism report was supposed to be the week of the 28th, but right now, I've never seen bombshell after bombshell after bombshell. And President Trump sat there and I said this when I first started, I told my team, I said he's going to say before the end of this that he wants us to be remembered as one of his signature, this whole thing with autism, he wants it as one of his signature achievements. Dr. Brian Hooker, your thoughts, sir. Okay, he's still on mute. Okay, I tell you what, let's go. We're going to go to break at the top of the hour and we'll work with Dr. Hooker, who's clearly not a technologist in my category. Folks, we're going to, we're going to break this up and break it down in pieces so that you see it hopefully in the next hour. But what you just saw by the President, United States was the single biggest throwdown by anybody in authority, backed up by Jay achara, Bobby Kennedy, Dr. Oz, Dr. Fink, others in the heart rendering stories of the, of these, of these mothers and their children, which touches President Trump. He just said when he was leaving there, he's taking the young, he's going to take the young men and their moms over into the Oval Office. He's got presence for him. That's the feeling. Trump, I'm telling you, this cuts to the core of the heart of President Trump. It was moving. It was powerful. He ain't backing down. And he said, he says, look, I've stopped seven wars. You know, his achievement of returning America to her greatness, of the economy, of all of it. He said right there, when I leave, I believe this may be the most important thing I do was to stop this basically pandemic or epidemic of autism. And then he threw in about things like adhd, everything we've had the Sheila Matthews of the world on and all the Mary Holland and, you know, these concerned mothers and all the work that, that the Warren posse did on the Pfizer documents, the Pfizer papers, right? And Naomi Wolf, everybody, President of the United States went out there. I mean, he went Bobby Kennedy on steroids. It was like Rambo Bobby Kennedy. I've never seen anything like it. From. This was one from the heart. Incredible. You want to talk about a guy who'll stand up against the powers that dominate Washington. C. Remember I told you, all they know is play smash draft. Well, hey, like Mike Tyson says, everybody's got a strategy to punch him in the mouth. Donald Trump just took Big Pharma and he punched him right in the mouth. What do you call it? A VAT. Don't give the baby a VAT of like 70 or 80 vaccines. Stunning. Then he gave him a pat on the head at the end, said, well, you know, I really like vaccines. I don't know. One thing I do know, President United States, I think, think pretty focused on do not take town. That's a quote. Tylenol Lawyers don't come after poor. War room. Check in at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The Commander in Chief, the United States Armed Forces. Incredible. We're going to be back. We're going to break all of this down. 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