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A (0:00)
We are following, as we promised, breaking news. It's out of the Eastern District of Virginia, where three sources familiar tell MSNBC former FBI Director James Comey is expected to be indicted in the coming days. The full extent of the charges being prepared against Comey is unclear. So, Katie, we have some sources who say that for several weeks now, the U.S. attorney's office in the Eastern District of Virginia and actually in offices that are potentially much further south than Alexandria have been eyeing ways to indict Comey. And they are getting very much closer. The statute of limits, forgive me, rephrase. They are arguing that Comey. There is evidence to suggest Comey lied to Congress in his testimony on the Hill in September of 2020. And for viewers out in the audience who may not be legally as nerdy as me and Ken, I'll just say that there's a statute of limitations to charge people with the crime of lying to Congress or perjury. And that's five years. The five year statute runs this month. Is it a copycat situation?
B (1:10)
Yeah. So the most famous example in recent years of writing is Brenton Tarrant, who is the Christchurch shooter, you know, a mosque in New Zealand and you wrote all over his weapon system and on his ammunition, very hateful, anti Muslim, white power, neo Nazi stuff that was emulated by other shooters here in the United States later on. So suggesting that this writing is part of a pattern, you might see some people stealing it now. But I mean, traditionally in terrorism, you want to put across your message of why you're doing this. It's not just random violence. But I do think it's important to really dig in to find out what his motivation was. Is it something broader or did he have a family member that was affected by an ICE raid? Is this a grievance, a personal grievance, or is he acting out against the government because he's seeing injustice? And if you want to look at trends in the United States, yes, this could be emergence of more violence from the left, but anti government movements have also come from the right. If you look at Oklahoma City bombing that was a culmination of the Patriot movement, but it really came out of Ruby Ridge and Waco and those things led to a trajectory that had Oklahoma City bomb.
A (2:30)
You would categorize this more as an anti government movement, potentially.
C (2:34)
Potentially.
A (2:35)
We don't know. But I think we have to change the framework in which we categorize offenders at this point. When we first started in the counterterrorism space, people neatly fit into boxes when it came to Motives. In today's day and age, the biggest threat we face is from lone offenders, and oftentimes lone offenders with a commingling of ideologies. There's not one thing that's leading them to take a weapon and to engage in violence. It can be a confluence of factors. And interestingly, Katie, a lot of the times, a lot of ideologies that are seemingly at odds. So we really need to change the framework that we're using to try to analyze these threats. This is the response, I think, that Dominic is talking about. It's Donald Trump's post. I can't believe ABC Fake News gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back. The White House was told by ABC that his show was canceled. Stop right there. Who do you think at ABC told the White House that his show was canceled?
