
Episode 4804: Maximalist Strategy, Seize The Institutions, Taking Down The Tech Oligarchs ...
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We are following, as we promised, breaking news. It's out of the Eastern District of Virginia, where three sources familiar tell MSNBC former FBI Director James Comey is expected to be indicted in the coming days. The full extent of the charges being prepared against Comey is unclear. So, Katie, we have some sources who say that for several weeks now, the U.S. attorney's office in the Eastern District of Virginia and actually in offices that are potentially much further south than Alexandria have been eyeing ways to indict Comey. And they are getting very much closer. The statute of limits, forgive me, rephrase. They are arguing that Comey. There is evidence to suggest Comey lied to Congress in his testimony on the Hill in September of 2020. And for viewers out in the audience who may not be legally as nerdy as me and Ken, I'll just say that there's a statute of limitations to charge people with the crime of lying to Congress or perjury. And that's five years. The five year statute runs this month. Is it a copycat situation?
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Yeah. So the most famous example in recent years of writing is Brenton Tarrant, who is the Christchurch shooter, you know, a mosque in New Zealand and you wrote all over his weapon system and on his ammunition, very hateful, anti Muslim, white power, neo Nazi stuff that was emulated by other shooters here in the United States later on. So suggesting that this writing is part of a pattern, you might see some people stealing it now. But I mean, traditionally in terrorism, you want to put across your message of why you're doing this. It's not just random violence. But I do think it's important to really dig in to find out what his motivation was. Is it something broader or did he have a family member that was affected by an ICE raid? Is this a grievance, a personal grievance, or is he acting out against the government because he's seeing injustice? And if you want to look at trends in the United States, yes, this could be emergence of more violence from the left, but anti government movements have also come from the right. If you look at Oklahoma City bombing that was a culmination of the Patriot movement, but it really came out of Ruby Ridge and Waco and those things led to a trajectory that had Oklahoma City bomb.
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You would categorize this more as an anti government movement, potentially.
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Potentially.
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We don't know. But I think we have to change the framework in which we categorize offenders at this point. When we first started in the counterterrorism space, people neatly fit into boxes when it came to Motives. In today's day and age, the biggest threat we face is from lone offenders, and oftentimes lone offenders with a commingling of ideologies. There's not one thing that's leading them to take a weapon and to engage in violence. It can be a confluence of factors. And interestingly, Katie, a lot of the times, a lot of ideologies that are seemingly at odds. So we really need to change the framework that we're using to try to analyze these threats. This is the response, I think, that Dominic is talking about. It's Donald Trump's post. I can't believe ABC Fake News gave Jimmy Kimmel his job back. The White House was told by ABC that his show was canceled. Stop right there. Who do you think at ABC told the White House that his show was canceled?
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That's a great question. I couldn't speculate on that. I mean, with Donald Trump, it's one of those things where it's like, did he make it up or is he sharing something out of school? Both are very Donald Trump characteristics. So it's hard to know. I think. Interesting. That post goes on to talk about how much money he got out of ABC from the lawsuit after the George Stephanopoulos shakedown that Disney, that they settled. And. And I think that, you know, we're getting to an interesting place where he goes on to talk about how he wants. He wants to get more money out of them this time, and he wants to sue them again this time. And it's sort of this like, like authoritarianism by lawsuit or the Ted Cruz line about, about Brendan Carr, a mobster. It's a little different than, you know, kind of authoritarian free speech in other countries. The kinds of. Jimmy Kimmel was talking about his monologue, right. Because it failed, like, it failed to shut him down completely. He wasn't on in some markets last night. We can get into that in a little bit. But it failed to shut him down. And they failed in some of their most overt authoritarian attempts, which is good. And yet he still is using the presidency in a way that no other president has, certainly in modern times, to bully people, to shake people down, to extort people, to try to get money for himself, to try to line the pockets of either him or his family or his presidential library. And he's doing that in a very overt manner. And in some ways, I don't know, this might be another Trumpian innovation. I mean, obviously there have been corrupt banana republics before, but like this sort of like quasi authoritarian. It is different than what we see when we talk about the authoritarian attacks.
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In other countries, this guy is flooding the zone. He's dominating the narratives. Facts don't seem to matter. And Democrats, frankly, have had a difficult time pushing back. And Democrats feel that, you know, times there's sort of this weakness that dominates our brand in our party. And I think what people appreciate is that we're willing to fight, and not only fight symbolically by having a little bit fun, but fight substantively. We have 41 lawsuits against this son of a bitch. We're pushing back, you know, and, and, and, you know, and we're filling a void on a lot of issues. I'm out here for Climate Week. California is the tent pole in terms of climate policy in this country. As he walks away from Paris, he walk way from leadership, moral authority around the rest of the world. California is trying to assert itself on health policy. Same thing. We created this west coast collaborative. We're not going to listen to this guy. We're not going to listen to him trying to pronounce a scene of medicine or not going to sit there, listen all that. No one trusts the guy.
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Well, he certainly promised revenge and retribution in this campaign. When voters went to the ballot box, that was very clear that that's part of what they were choosing if they chose Donald Trump. And he promised it on his political enemies like James Comey. I think it's hard to make the case, even for President Trump, that Comey somehow wronged his, his voters. But I will say, that sense of martyring himself, there is still this broader sense that does appeal to Trump's voters of sort of broader grievance. Right, that the deep state is after me. They're after you. You're getting a RA with institutions and governments, which a lot of his voters do feel. And that if they could do this to me, imagine if I wasn't standing in their way, what they could do to you. And that is an incredibly effective, powerful message for Donald Trump's space.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Wednesday, the 24th of September. Year of alert, 2025. We're going to get to the shooter. We got so much to go through the day. Signal, not noise. I got Julie Kelly by phone because the Comey situation. But I gotta start off Julie, because you followed her ratings closely. Ashley Parker. How can a young woman who's so smart be so dumb? What Comey? Comey had no impact on the MAGA voters January 6th. The other things that Comey did for his entire time built up the entire FBI apparatus that did Russiagate, that came after President Trump and put in all the agents and all the field offices that Chris Wray, you know, use in that mentality, that politicized mentality against MAGA was the January 6th. The abortion clinics, the kicking, you know, the Catholic Church, all of it was all Comey had built in there. Comey totally went after the MAGA movement, right? Totally went after the MAGA movement. And he lied and lied and lied and lied about Russiagate, and that's where they're getting him for. Julie Kelly, your your thoughts? Ashley Parker. Good Lord, ma', am, your thoughts, Your thoughts, man.
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I mean, this is a problem that Cash and Dan are facing at the FBI. You have this megalomaniac Jim Comey, who has infected, who did infect the entire bureau with that sort of approach, with his deception, with his abusing power to go after political enemies, starting with Donald Trump. And yes, this manifested in not just the January 6th persecution raids across the country, armed raids with little mini Jim Comey's beating down the doors of American citizens and arresting them on nonviolent misdemeanors or bogus felony charges. But then, of course, his buddies still being in office and then pursuing President Trump in two federal criminal indictments that were brought by special counsel Jack Smith, who of course, was in the Obama DOJ at the same time, James Comey was there as well.
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So, Julie, you covered this better than anybody. The statute of limitations, I think the five years does run out, I think in 10 days or sometime midweek next week. What exactly is going on here? What is this potential indictment coming against James Comey?
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So, Steve, it appears that this will be either contempt of Congress or perjury lying to Congress related to his September 30, 2020 testimony before the Senate committee that was investigating the origins of Crossfire Hurricane. And it appears that this will address Jim Comey's testimony and his story. Let's say that he did not leak those memos that. That he was taking in real time after meetings with the President. So as you recall, the President met with Jim Comey privately, I think, six or seven times. Jim Comey, then head of the FBI, would go right into his suv, get his laptop and take notes recalling the subject, the topic of that conversation. And it appears that this specific memo that he took and then he stored those memos at his home. I believe four of the seven that he took he stored at home. Then he leaked at least one of them, he says, to his friend Daniel Richmond, who I think was a professor at Columbia, and then instructed Richmond to leak that this particular memo to the New York Times. What was this memo about? It was about the conversation Feb. 14, 2017, about the Flynn investigation and the President allegedly telling Jim Comey, you know, I hope you'll go easy on Mike Flynn or something to the effect of those words, according to Jim Comey. So it looks like. And Daniel Richmond was subpoenaed earlier this month. It is reported that he met with prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia last week. So did that story fall apart? Because Jim Comey has always insisted that he did not disclose those records, those memos, directly to the media. I just pulled up his Transcript from that September 2020 testimony before the Senate. He said he never shared those memos with anyone except for Daniel Richmond. Was that a lie? Also, kind of sketchy report we got from DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz in 2019 that said, oh, yeah, Jim Comey really shouldn't have kept those notes. He shouldn't have taken them. He certainly shouldn't have kept them. They did contain sensitive investigative information. Oh. But they weren't classified until later. So it was okay, basically, if he shared those with someone else, who then leaked it to the New York Times to try to destroy Mike Flynn.
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Comey's slippery, what he did with the dossier, all of it. Hang on for one second, Julie. I know you're by phone. If you just hang on. We'll take a short break. First off, Comey, as you know, never should have gone out and taken notes about the meetings with the President. Right. He was using that for blackmail. Right. To basically. To basically use it against President Trump. Right. And be a coward about it. He had to use an intermediary, the professor at Columbia, to get it to the New York Times. These guys are very slippery. They're deep state. They're liars. They all should go to prison. And now's the time. Let's get on with it. Okay, this is just the minor charge. This is just perjury or contempt of Congress. Contempt of Congress. Gosh, I happened. Let me think for a second. Did anybody know? Oh yeah, that's right. I went to prison for that. So did Peter Navarro Comey. And this is, you know, I'm glad we're getting under the wire. This is one of President Trump I think lit up Pam Bondi the other night to say hey look, let's get on with it. I think when somebody brought to his attention the clock was ticking and you had a criminal, Comey is a criminal, should spend many, many, many decades in prison. We gotta start somewhere. Let's start with lying to Congress and a contempt charge. We'll take it. Not what? Not the ultimate game, but we'll take it for a starter, for an appetizer, for just a taste. Short break. Julie Kelly the one and only on the this July there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro. The block of emerging superpowers including China, Russia, India and Persia are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency. They're calling this the Rio reset. As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for US dollars will decrease bringing down the value of the dollar and in your savings. While this transition won't not happen overnight, but trust me, it's going to start in Rio. The real reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards inevitable reality. Learn if diversify your savings into gold is right for you. Birch Gold Group can help you move your hard earned savings into a tax sheltered IRA and precious metals. Claim your free info kit on gold by texting my name Bannon. That's B A N N o N to 989-898 with an A plus rating. With the Better Business Bureau and tens of thousands of happy customers led Birchgold army with a free no obligation info kit on owning gold before July and the Rio reset. Text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898 do it today. That's the Rio reset. Text Bannon at 989-898 and do it today.
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Trump has said he's going to or has I don't know if he's actually done yet. Deemed antifa a terrorist organization.
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Tell us how that changes the game.
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Well, you know it's kind of a new thing but it is overdue in My opinion, for federal law enforcement to be treating Antifa as a domestic terror threat. And there are various ways that can be done. Again, I don't want to tip off people as to what the exact details of it are, but the President has laid out in his executive order some very accurate facts. I've been following and suing and dealing with Antifa for the better part of a decade now. And what I can tell you is his order is exactly correct. It is a paramilitary terror type organization that is loosely organized deliberately into little cells. Each of those little cells doesn't know what the other cell is doing. They report up through a management structure. There are national leaders of ANTIFA who travel around fomenting violence at different functions and riots that they have. They evade capture, yes, they are armed like military. They are issued with weapons, including hardened gloves and things like that. And they regularly wreak mayhem, including against ICE facilities on the West Coast. And so it is way past time for the United States to take this very seriously and put resources behind it, learn about it. ICE is kind of an out. I mean, sorry, ANTIFA is kind of an outgrowth of Black bloc and other type of political left wing Marxist movements in Europe. And there's a lot of study about what they're doing over there. So we just need to do our homework, learn and devote the necessary resources to this. I for one am relieved this is happening because this is a national terror threat.
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Okay. By the way. So I think that's fine. Some of the more impossible heads are rolling up a little bit about that. But hang on, let me just walk through this. If we can pull it up while I speak and you can go do it in Amazon. I made a film when I was a filmmaker called Occupy Unmasked starring Andrew Breitbart. It's Andrew Breitbart would think his last great work before he passed away. It was about that right there. It was about the transition of Occupy Wall street or elements of it. Remember, you had elements, people like the Tim Pools of the world and they kind of went in a different direction. But this black bloc in Antifa kind of took over the remnants of it and got a foothold here in the United States of America since it's really started in Germany, Germany, France, really Germany and Italy, I guess. And it was a Marxist and communist response to some of the movements in particularly in Italy. It's very dangerous. Harmeet, I think, lays it out. It's not that action is not being taken. I think action is already being taken. And Harmeet is very Judicious in the way she says that. But Julie Kelly, I want to bring in for a bigger picture about this and about the way that Harmeet laid out Antifa, because people are chomping for action, right? Including a guy that both lives and works. It's 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and he thinks the world of Pam Bondi, as many of us do. But he put out the other day, you know, a true social. It was kind of like, hey, we got to get on with it. It was really around this Halligan situation in the Eastern. I guess she got temporarily put in. Next thing you know, voila, we have an indictment coming. I guess we're going in front of the grand jury on Comey very quickly. But the President does seem frustrated. I think all of us are frustrated that you've got Brennan, you got Comey, you've got all these guys. It's evident what they've been doing and where's the action? Where are the perp walks, Right? Where are the indictments? Where are the trials? And I think on Antifa, the same thing. I realize Harmeet says, hey, look, we got to look at this. It's domestic and I might add, because we had a little voice behind the scenes on this, it is pushing, I think, current legal boundaries about domestic terror versus international global terror. Though you make the case Antifa is a global terrorist organization. And it's not the foot soldiers she was talking about. It's not even the second tier of the military. Ex military people train them. It's really the NGOs, the big institutions, the Tides foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation. I'm throwing out some names, just random names and source and all that, of how these things are organized finance and who in media are their partners? So give me your perspective. You cover this closer than anybody. You see a building sense of frustration, like, when are we going to get on with it, ma'?
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Am. Right. I mean, there definitely is frustration among the base, including ourselves. There's frustration in the White House. We know that. And so there are a lot of challenges for this doj. That's why everything had to be perfect. Steve and I know that that sounds unrealistic, but because the DOJ and FBI was up against not just the media, but the institutional corruption of the DOJ and the FBI. So everything had to go perfectly. We couldn't afford any unforced errors. Unfortunately, we have seen so many that have been a distraction that have left the base justifiably rattled and nervous that we are going to see a repeat of things that we saw in the first Trump term, not because of the President, because we have a different precedent this time and he has a different installation around him than he had the first go around. But we can't afford these mistakes. And I think it appears that there were problems in this U.S. attorney's office in the Eastern District of Virginia. There were institutional holdovers, there was resistance there to pursuing the investigation into Jim Comey and then Letitia James as well. And I'm gonna go a little step further here, Steve. We don't need to hear from people all the time. We need work being done. We don't need a lot of social media posts, we don't need interviews. We don't need those things. We need the dirty fingernails. We need the ass kicking behind the scenes, we need the purging. And I know that a lot some of that has gone on, but what they are up against is, has almost insurmountable. That's why, like I said, couldn't afford any mistakes. Can't afford any mistakes and certainly can't create them. And then keep talking and talking and talking. Just get the work.
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Okay?
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Okay. Okay. So you know this better than anybody had. We were taken apart. The, like the D.C. court in the, in the, in the, in the appellate court and everything in D.C. with Peter Navarro spent an hour with him last night on the show and the six o' clock show and about how he and I didn't even realize how corrupt it was until we got sucked into the process. This is why I keep saying a maximalist strategy with a sense of urgency. And the objective is to seize the institutions. They're just looking at Trump as a passing phenomenon. Their plan now is how to wait him out. And that includes some people in his administration that are still RINOs and globalists. Right. It includes definitely the Democratic Party, but it also includes the business community, all of it. They think this is a passing summer storm, a bad storm. But it's a passing summer storm and it will be over. And once it's over, they look at us, who they got out there, and I say, none of these guys scare us. None of them. Zero. Zippo. Okay? So they're just going to wait him out. That's why you have to seize the institutions. You have to purge these. We're barely hanging on at the Justice Department. Your point? Everything's got to be perfect or they're leaking on you all the time. And this concept of blue slips for folks that maybe missed our lesson on this in the past, this is a convention, a custom and tradition where the senators, whether from red states or blue states, kind of get approval of who's going to be on the list to be judges in their districts and who are going to be the U.S. attorneys. And that is a concept behind the scenes of how things kind of balance out. Right. You kind of keep everybody united by doing that. But what that stops is putting in, quite frankly, Maga oriented U.S. attorneys and judges, particularly in a place like Maryland, it's always going to have two Democratic U.S. senators. And so now more than ever, we have to hit this system with a blowtorch or you're going to find out. This gets back to my speech at Turning Point in July. If we don't take the administrative state and the deep state down now on this watch, it ain't gonna happen. And here's what number one's gonna happen. They're gonna put everybody in jail. Hakeem Jeffries just told you that two nights ago. They're gonna put everybody in jail. And they move with alacrity. Okay? They move with alacrity. They don't mess around and we kind of stumble around. Julie Kelly, your observations on that?
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Well, I mean, as someone, I think, who covered the D.C. court system closer than anyone on our side, you know, I called for the defunding and dismantling of that federal courthouse. For years, after having seen what they did to average Americans who were completely defenseless and destroyed by the Biden doj watching these judges in action, we have not had one single impeachment inquiry, not one, into a federal judge in Washington. You're telling me, Steve, if House Republicans would have started an inquiry into former Chief Judge Beryl Howell, everything that she did to the President, all of his White House associates, his attorneys, J6 defendants allowing the entire Florida documents case to be investigated in Washington, then switch the jurisdiction at the last minute to get the indictment in Florida by reading transcripts before D.C. grand juries. I mean, if this is not malfeasance and misconduct at the highest level of our judiciary, I don't know what is. You're telling me House Republicans wouldn't open a single inquiry into her or into Jeb Bossberg for what he did and has done that, it would not be a little shot across the bow to these judges. Okay, well, you know, this can happen. I don't want my records for the entire country to see. I want my name dirtied up. I want to be hero like I'm considered in Washington, D.C. so the president and his administration, including the DOJ, do not have back of Republicans in Congress. So that is very problematic for them as well. Republicans are not doing their side of the deal either and I think that that adds to our frustration.
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But yeah, truly, where do people go to get your sub stack to get all of it? And we'll get you back up here when you can be on camera.
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Yeah, hopefully tomorrow. I would like to talk more about Jim Comey and everything else that's going on. Declassified with Julie Kelly on Substack X. Julie underscore Kelly too.
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New YouTube announced yesterday it would open the door for channels that were banned to be reinstated. Some of the bans were for posting about COVID 19 or the 2020 election. This comes after Representative Jim Jordan subpoenaed Alphabet, a CEO, alleging that YouTube was a direct participant in the federal government's censorship regime. Join us now, Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio. He's the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. And I'm glad to have you on. Even though it's a phone, I know you're in it. I know you're in the great state of Ohio, Congressman. I mean, we, we had, we heard something similar a couple, a year ago from I think Facebook sort of copy to the same, to the same thing. And I mean, is this similar to this with Facebook? They weren't allowed to put anything out about the laptop, I don't think, or the lab origin, the Wuhan virus lab origin. Is this similar? Is it the same things that they were banned for or different? Very similar. You know, Google or YouTube admitted yesterday that, that they, like these other platforms were censoring. We're being pressured by the Biden administration to censor speech. I mean, you got, you got one of these, you know, Google, it's a huge market cap company censoring, you know, half their customers, in essence. And I think the big takeaway was they're going to reinstate people that they'd actually taken their channel from them that they kicked off. And then they also said they committed to never use these fact checkers like these other platforms, you know, these independent fact checkers who think they're so much smarter than the rest of us, but are just, just biased individuals. So we thought that was a big news. And then I think that maybe the fourth thing that we heard from him was look what's going on in Europe. We've all seen this with the Digital Services act, the Digital Marketing act, are very troublesome. So here's.
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Okay, let me take it. Thanks. Chris Pavlovsky is the founder and CEO of Rumble, of which you can find the war room. And the reason you find the war room, we were banned by Google and YouTube and taken down. We had a huge following on YouTube. Just tore it down. But Chris, you bring up a quite interesting point and I heard you earlier today on Stuart Varney show, and we love Stuart, right. He's always taken alternative, although he's not particularly a fan of President Trump or the MAGA economic agenda. I think there's, and we are adamantly opposed to what Biden and the Biden regime did. But I think you got a very sophisticated take on what actually happened. Can you explain to our audience what.
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Actually went on, sir? Yeah, thanks for having me, Steve. So, you know, it's, it's great that they've come out with this report and they're highlighting all the nefarious things that have happened over the last four years. But what I think this report is missing, in fact what I know it is missing and what Google is not saying is what happened in 2020, in late 2020, prior to the Biden administration. So Rumble is in a very unique spot. We were the platform where a lot of band creators ended up coming over to our platform. You're a primary example of that happening. I think I just checked earlier. You came on November 6th and joined Rumble in 2020. That's three days after the election and November 3rd. But what really happened in October And I don't know if you were part of this or I just know that you guys joined in November, but you may have been part of this. But the bannings happened in October of 2020. So when you look at that, what does that really actually mean? It means in my opinion that Google interfered in the 2020 elections. They banned all the conserve many conservative voices on their platform prior to the election on November 3, 2020. And that in Rumble was, was a, was a recipient of all these creators moving their audiences over to Rumble in October of 2020.
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And Dan Bongino was part of the two biggest names they talk about in the headlines, all the headlines yesterday Bongino and Bannon can go back to October 20th is an interesting date because they banned us all and started moving and suppressing us for the laptop from hell. That's what they didn't want there. And Google was absolutely adamant about it. You could tell. And Rumble, if you didn't have Rumble, you wouldn't have had a voice. This is why don't get me wrong, what Jim Jordan and team did about Biden is 100% correct. And Biden had authorities had the FBI going after these meetings. That's 100% correct. But let's not miss the plot here. This was all big tech working in unison with the essentially the deep state. Cuz President Trump was still president. The deep state to shut down any kind of, any kind of mention of the laptop from hell and now we know it's 100% true was what he said at the time. I was the guy that did the China part for Rudy and the team that did it. So if it hadn't been for you, and you absolutely nailed it. I don't know why, I don't know why more people are not talking about this. This is the reality is, was done way before Biden came in. It was done to steal the election from Donald Trump. Sir.
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This was. Yeah, people are missing the plot on this. This was, in my opinion, the greatest election interference. The first person that came to Rumble was actually Congressman Devin Nunes in August of 2020. And what he noticed was that something was really, really wrong on the platform. So he may have not have been banned. He was an official. He was a congressman in California. He had, you know, millions of constituents over there. And he may have not have been banned. But what was not what was happening was that no one was subscribing to his channel. He wasn't able to garner any views on the platform. So there may have been a shadow banning happening to an elected member of Congress. And then he comes over to rumble. Within two to three months, he, he accumulates like 2 to 300,000 subscribers, whereas for the prior four years he didn't have more than 10,000 subscribers while he's advertising his podcast on road signs in California. It makes absolutely no sense. But now looking at this report, it is very clear to me that there was an absolute censorship happening to an elected member of Congress, Congressman Devin Nunes for sure, because how does he have, how does he get 300,000 subscribers in a couple months, whereas he only gets 10,000 in four years on YouTube? So whether they were banning creators. They were. So they were definitely banning creators on October of 2020, but they were, and they were certainly shadow banning and steering content in a specific direction. So that when you searched Congressman Devin Nunes on Google, you're going to get a New York Times hit piece, a CNN hit piece, you're going to get hit piece after hit piece after hit piece, and you're not going to be able to find the actual content of Congressman Devin Nunes, his actual. What he actually believes. And to me, that, that this is the biggest story of what really happened over the last five years. And Rumble's been in the middle of this from the beginning. We, you, you, you can say that they, they're going to bring back the creators on the platform. But whatever way the wind blows for these tech executives, like in, at Google, like at Facebook, they will capitulate to any government around the world, whoever the government may be. We have seen it.
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They've done.
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They did it back in 2020. They did it during the Biden administration, they do it in different jurisdictions. At Rumble, we don't do that. We actually. We tell the government, you know, go pound sand.
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I think it's reason people love Rumble. I want you to hit rewind and repeat that. This is what I was just screaming about with Julie Kelly, and then before Julie Kelly came on. Why do I keep saying it? Maximalist strategy, sense of urgency. Seize the institutions. They think Trump's here, just a temporary summer storm and he's going to pass. And once he's passing, and that's the key about these big techs, hit it again. What you just said about him, about capitulation, sir.
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So Rumble gets governments coming to us to remove content all the time. That doesn't violate our policies. My decision, our decision at this company is to stick to our policies. We're an American company with American values. So when Brazil comes to us to ban a crater, we tell Brazil to go pound sand. When France comes to us to ban a crater or remove content, we tell France to go pound sand. When France goes to Google or Brazil goes to Google, they gonna. They're gonna capitulate. They did it. They do it. The executives made a decision in 2020 to remove all creators on the platform, all creators that got banned in October 20th. And they did it because they thought the wind was blowing a specific way. And they're just going to do that again and again and again. They do not have the values that Rumble has. They do not have the values that many conservatives have. They are just doing it as a bandage. They're building on YouTube is like building on sand. A wise person builds on a rock, a fool will build on sand. And what, what is happening right now is just a little temporary bandage to try to appease all the conservatives for the next couple years, or, you know, could be 10 years, could be, could be 12 years, could be four, two years.
C
It. It.
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Until they think the wind is blowing in a different direction. We'll see what they do then, but I'm pretty confident they're just going to capitulate and they're going to go whatever way the wind blows, and they're not going to have any values behind that.
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Well, it's not even the wind blows. They under. They're all progressive. Marxist left is all of them, everybody in Silicon Valley to a T. And they, oh, we're libertarians. They're not Libertarians. Take your number two, Prince a lot and write down Wednesday 24th September, the year Overlord 2025, in the five o' clock, hour, what Chris just told you, because it's as sure as the turning of the earth it's going to happen. And that's why platforms like Rumble fight the good fight every day. Chris, how do people go find out more on your social media. How do they find out more about Rumble and what you guys have built over there?
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Yeah, so I'm on Truth Social handle is Chris, I'm on X, Chris Pavlovsky. And on Rumble, I'm Chris Rumble. But you can go straight to rumble.com, you can find the War Room, you can find the worm right there on the homepage. You can subscribe to the War Room channel. And every day, I guess at 10am and at 5pm you'll get a notification that the worm goes live. Unlike these other platforms that, you know, perhaps don't send notifications every single time everyone goes live. But you'll always, without, without a doubt be sure that we'll be broadcasting the War Room and many others.
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We know we're building on Rock Over Rumble, sir, because I can tell you, I can tell you with all the different chat rooms we got going simultaneously in all the different platforms, the Rumble chat sticks out. That is, that is hardcore. You get, they don't, they don't, they don't take fools lightly. It's, it's pretty hardcore. So it's a great audience you got there. We appreciate you, sir. Thanks, Chris.
J
Thank you, Steve. Thank you. Me.
C
Come on, man. That was, it was, it was all about the laptop from hell. They started shutting because here's why. And maybe I could get that Hillary Clinton. I'll do it tomorrow and get more time to work it through. You know, Hillary Clinton said this morning on the thing was Steve Bannon knew about the, the disaffected young men in the gamer community. And, you know, he was able to kind of get in there ahead of the Democrats that they didn't realize what was going on. This is all of a piece. I mean, it's what they, they took a vow, they made a vow to themselves after 2016. And it was Darren Beatty and Mike Benz that brought this, that brought this to me. Benz at the time was working over, at, over at hud, right? He was working over HUD at the time. Beatty was still, was one of the speechwriters at the White House. And they came with all the evidence of how big tech had gotten bitch slapped, had a wake up call that we had used social media much more sophisticated than the Democrats. And remember, they had their whole staff, they had These sessions where they're all crying and, you know, taking the conch shells and cutting their forehead and bellyaching and in a fetal position. Terrible that Trump, the savage orange man bad had taken the White House and they vowed never to happen again. That's what happened in the run up to 2020. Now, we got banned earlier for in some of these social media platforms about Fauci, but in the run up to 2020, particularly around October 20, the laptop from hell, they had to shut that down. They realized that everything they had done to steal it from Trump, that that thing was so egregious. Russian disinformation. Remember all the lies about that. They banned Bongino and suppressed everybody. That's when we finally went to rumble a couple of days after the, after the election. Been there ever since. Appreciate it. Short commercial break Take your phone out. Text Bannon 989-898 get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. And it's totally free. Get it today. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the ccp. What if he had the brightest mind in the war room delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War Room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets, Jim predicted Trump's electoral College victory exactly 3:12 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, MoneyGPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos, bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes, and even threats to national security. Right now, War room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go to rickardswarroom.com that's all one word. Rickards war Rooms. Rickards with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's rickardswarroom.com do it today. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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Drill down tomorrow on the on the shooter. But this guy was antifa adjacent or TIFA affiliate affiliated in the discord chats. Was terminally online all the time.
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Right?
C
They're saying he's a copycat of the, of the person that, that assassinated Charlie Kirk. Well, we don't know who assassinated Charlie Kirk. Okay, maybe the alleged gunman. This guy was far left, had a mother, was progressive, had a bunch of progressive stuff on social media. But I want to get all the facts and put them out tomorrow. But this is. The left has embraced assassinations. I told you this because they think it's working for him. They think it's working for him. Charlie Kirk's gone. What are you gonna do about it? Yes, there's the team and Erica. They're doing amazing. Show's great. They got the college tour going. Great participation of that. You'll never replace Charlie. He's irreplaceable. You'll go on and it'll be better be bigger, gonna do fantastic things. But they understood. They took out Charlie Kir Turkey's unique individual. Today. They've embraced political violence. And nobody. You're not going to. You're not going to stop it until you stop it. You're not going to stop it until you stop it. And I don't care if people come. Well, you got to come. They're doing so much. I understand, and great things are happening. But this is an inflection point in American history and we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard. We have to push harder. We have to work harder. We can't take time off. You have to do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. Because we're burning daylight and they know that. They're just waiting Trump out. So we're gonna have a lot more tomorrow. Also on the government shutdown and things are being planned. And hey, this could backfire on the Democrats are trying to be cute about it. My Patriots apply my Patriot supply. One of our best sponsors. Love these guys. And I want to make sure everybody knows they got a special. And this is like the biggest special I think they've ever had. At least I've ever. They have a whole year supply. So go to my patronsupply.com, put in promo code Bannon. They've got the biggest I've ever seen you get. A one year food kit normally costs 4200 bucks now for 26.88. So you get a huge discount. Massive discount right there. Plus you get $1500 additional, $1500 worth of. Of additional product. And the product's gonna blow you away. Everything, just not food, but also instruments, flashlights, you gotta see it. And this is why I need you to go to my Patriot supply. This is extraordinary. It's a one year food kit already with what, 40% off? 1500 bucks off plus another $1500 of top quality product. It's incredible and you don't wanna miss it. And here's the great thing, and this is one. Follow our sponsors. If you make contact, when you make contact, go online, make contact. They got customer service and they got people that'll walk you through everything. And they take their time. They realize a lot of people are new to this and this is why they have founded the. They kind of founded this part of the industry, what I call this segment, this sector, this vertical and they. And they kind of dominate it now because of not just great products but amazing customer service. So my Patriot Supply, honored to have him as a sponsor. Go check out the mypatriotsupply.com promo code Bannon. Make sure you get there. This extraordinary offer. A one year food kit with 1500 bucks off of that and another 1500 dollars of incredible product. Like I said, this shooter on TV. You saw the clip. That's why I wanted to play the cold open to have your head blow up. Now they have to re. You know these, you know, it's not left, right or anymore as they're murdering people every day and they're gunning down folks every day. And you get on there and they're all the same. Young man, all twisted. And parents haven't been on top of it. Parent, look at the parents. Hey, sorry. It's all part of a whole. And they're making a society's problem. But now it's got to be reclassified. It's got to be reclassified. This is all the demonic left from the schools, how they form them to the parents, how they don't pay attention. All of them are gamers terminally online that rot rotting their souls out. Disgusting and revolting. Because guess what? They are the same young men that won World War II. You just have to treat them like young men and demand of them that they be young men and they'll turn out fine. Not the way they're doing it. And it ain't gonna stop until we make it stop. Mike Lindell, I really want you on this afternoon. James Comey looks like he's gonna be indicted. The Comey FBI was the ones that what stopped you? Tried to humiliate you into a parking lot by fast food. Took your phone, tried to make you look like a criminal. As they get the forces around you to try to bankrupt you. Sir, what do you think? Before you talk to me about a deal, talk to me about James Comey and the FBI. Mike Lindell's observations on this situation.
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First of all, I told everybody evil is greedy. That's our biggest advantage. And Comey is the, he is the, the example of that. The perfect example. He has until Tuesday, by the way, the statutes of limitations run out on him this coming Tuesday to indict him. We need to get this done. He made so many mistakes, Steve, that I could sit and tell on your show because he got way out in front of his evil and he made mistakes that changed the course of history actually. And it's all coming to light now. Remember, this is the same guy. Everybody that last may put seashells took a picture of him and said 8647. Let's not forget that. So you know what they're talking about indicting for is all the lies he's told and the stuff and the COVID ups. This man is when you look up evil and something's done is evil. There he is. But like I said, he's made a lot of mistakes and they're all going to come to fruition now. And, and it's all. Remember everybody, these are. You look back and all even things happening bad at the time. God uses all things for good for those who believe and all the mistakes that evil makes because evil is greedy. It's going to help us save this country.
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Maximalist Strategy, Seize The Institutions, Taking Down The Tech Oligarchs
Date: September 24, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Key Guests: Julie Kelly, Chris Pavlovski, Representative Jim Jordan, others
This episode of Bannon’s War Room centers on what the host and his guests frame as an urgent need for "maximalist" action: seizing American institutions from entrenched “deep state” and “tech oligarch” interests. Major discussions include the breaking news around a reported upcoming indictment of former FBI Director James Comey, deep frustration within the MAGA base over slow-moving institutional change, the political weaponization of law enforcement, renewed focus on Antifa as a domestic terror threat, and the role of Big Tech in election interference and censorship. The episode also features interviews with thought leaders on Conservative media platforms and strategies, highlighting the need for alternative tech and media ecosystems.
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Bannon Quote [23:20]: “The objective is to seize the institutions. They’re just looking at Trump as a passing phenomenon. ... We have to hit this system with a blowtorch or you’re going to find out... If we don’t take the administrative state and the deep state down now on this watch, it ain’t gonna happen.”
Julie Kelly [25:50]: “I called for the defunding and dismantling of that federal courthouse. ... We have not had one single impeachment inquiry, not one, into a federal judge in Washington... Republicans are not doing their side of the deal either.”
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Julie Kelly on Comey’s legacy [10:36]:
“He certainly shouldn't have kept [those notes]. They did contain sensitive investigative information. Oh. But they weren’t classified until later. So it was okay, basically, if he shared those with someone else, who then leaked it to the New York Times to try to destroy Mike Flynn.”
Stephen K. Bannon on institutional urgency [23:20]:
“If we don’t take the administrative state and the deep state down now on this watch, it ain’t gonna happen. And here’s what number one’s gonna happen. They're gonna put everybody in jail. ... If House Republicans would have started an inquiry... it would not be a little shot across the bow to these judges?”
Chris Pavlovski (Rumble) on tech censorship [32:43]:
“Google interfered in the 2020 elections. They banned many conservative voices on their platform prior to the election…”
Pavlovski on Big Tech’s flexibility [38:09]:
“...a wise person builds on a rock, a fool will build on sand. And what is happening right now is just a little temporary bandage to try to appease all the conservatives for the next couple years...”
This episode encapsulates the War Room’s core themes in 2025: aggressive anti-institutional populism, a siege mentality regarding the administrative state and media/tech establishment, and a persistent call for pro-Trump partisans to take sweeping, permanent action before time runs out. If you want to understand the hard-right’s sense of urgency, their view of the 2020 and 2024 elections, and their strategy for 2025 and beyond, this episode is a pivotal snapshot.