
Episode 4805: The World's Worst Bet Globalization; Autism Round Table ...
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people you're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do.
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Okay thursday the twenty fifth of september year overlord twenty twenty five okay we've got even more to cover in this hour than last hour and we're going to have interruption as the president of turkey arrives there's going to be a bilat and i'm sure the president is going to make a few comments and maybe take a couple of three questions from the oval so we'll go to that and i've got mike davis the viceroy coming up also we're going to go to the maha institute today has the roundtable about autism the vaccines all of it's going to take place from five noon to five we're going to cover it all live we're gonna have pre game if we can fit it in and then post game at five o' clock so just stick around we're gonna get all this done but one thing i've wanted to do i've had actually an in studio interview scheduled before the charlie kirk assassination so we delayed it but it was important enough for me that it's a book that is extraordinary and an author that kind of had a ringside seat you know gibbons wrote the decline and fall of the roman empire but he did it you know many centuries later from his interest in going back to rome as a young man and seeing all the what had once been a great civilization and wanting to write about it this is not the decline and fall this is the rise and fall it's called the world's worst bet it's written by david j lynch i could not recommend this book higher to get you up to speed as quickly as possible about this you just heard my rant on h one b visas as you hear every couple of days it's all part of globalization david can you just i just want to toss it to you just give your background you've kind of had a ringside seat for this and you do the rise and fall and it's extraordinary it's an epic tale i mean it almost reads like a novel right it's an epic tale of just people some who are well intentioned some are not who just made decisions and got us in a situation where it didn't work for people and now we're kind of in a populist nationalist uprising that we're very proud to be one of the major platforms for and that's why i want people to read this so just how did you get the idea for the book what's your background in it and just talk to.
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Us about it well first thanks for having me on you know i was struck a few years ago on the sidelines of one of the g twenty global summits which was a very messy affair nobody was really getting along vladimir putin didn't even show up xi jinping proved kind of prickly on some key issues and it struck me at the time that this was not at all the kind of harmonious environment that the architects of us led globalization had anticipated back at the end of the cold war you remember the so called end of history by francis fukuyama the idea that democracy and free markets were spreading around the world is sort of the natural end state almost of human evolution and you know i lived through that as you did and i'll confess i was kind of part and parcel of that conventional wisdom and it seemed like why not anybody who lived through the collapse of the berlin wall the dissolution of the soviet union on christmas day of all things in nineteen ninety one it was easy to think that happy days were here again and we were going to end up with more and more globalization more and more trade liberalization and the result would be widespread shared prosperity here at home but also a more peace world abroad as authoritarian nations like russia and china opened up their political systems and joined a us led international order and of course that's not where we've ended up and i try to tell that story through the eyes of half a dozen or so representative americans you know a worker a venture capitalist a couple of presidents and and i think it is the economic story of our time i think it's important to understand what's worked and what hasn't worked over the last thirty years so that we're better positioned for what comes next.
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Let'S go back to that time in the nineties because you had a guy i worked for and i didn't work directly for him he kind of ran the trading side of the firm steve friedman ran the investment banking side and bob rubin ran the training side but when i was at goldman sachs in the eighties you had bob rubin and bill clinton because that kind of the point of initiates this clinton their concept of globalization and particularly this bet that everybody had that liberal democracy and free market capitalism had actually won and that these other cultures and societies and everybody would just do it because wall street and the global corporate community thought it made sense i mean when i was at harvard in the eighties like i said that was west point camp you got stamped out as a globalist it was like a immutable fact it was like the second law of thermodynamics there was no debate it's just here's the way to do it and here's how you perfect it with supply chains and labor that can go everywhere capital that's borderless et cetera so take us back into the book in this concept of the decade of the nineties and the personalities were the initiating event.
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Was a heady time and you go back now and you read what some of the main policymakers of the era were saying from both parties and many of the quotes have not aged well and i think of bill clinton as sort of the godfather of u s led globalization and i think he understood the pros and potential cons better than anybody certainly articulated it better than just about any other american politician i can think of and he always warned at the time we said a couple things he said you know globalization is a fact not a choice and i think he was referring there largely to the impact of technology but he said you know this is going to be a good thing it's going to make the society wealthier and more prosperous overall which it did but there are going to be distributional effects there's going to be so called winners and losers and that's okay because the winners are going to do so well that some of their gains can go to help the losers the folks who otherwise might be left behind and we're going to make sure they get all the assistance they need retraining relocation whatever sort of support might equip a basic factory worker to fully participate in this brave new age we're going to make sure they get that help and as i say in the book it was an attractive theory and for a while it looked like it might even be true but the problem was it never happened it never happened under multiple administrations sorry yeah i want.
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To go i want to now i want to go to that fact you just i don't want to bury the lead you said about both political parties if you read this and that's where i think the book's very powerful now for people to go back and understand how we got here and how we where this goes because we're hardcore economic nationalists and populists here in the war room both there was no dissension there was no meaningful dissent of both political part people would say today we're so divided well hey we we were united kind of i mean there were cultural issues but on basic central fact of the modern industrial economy both parties essentially had the same outlook maybe on the margins they had some differences but the same essential you had unity you actually had unity in what was a business model for the united states now it turns out that that business model as we would argue here was one million percent wrong it's the reason i love the title of your book is the world's i would call it the dumbest bet but certainly the worst bet but go back in time there was no there was no dissension on this this was essentially kind of wall street corporate and political kind of mind melt was.
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It not it largely was and there's a quote from george w bush as he was running for the presidency in late nineteen ninety nine i believe and it's a lovely quote i don't think i can quote it all all from memory but the paraphrase is something like economic freedom and he was talking here in terms of the opening to china bringing china into the global trading system economic freedom he said creates habits of liberty and habits of liberty will create pressure for democratic change there was a very strong rhetorical narrative at the time not that china would necessarily become a jeffersonian democracy or that that was even a formal objective of us policy but there was a clear sense in both parties that expanded trade by making china more prosperous would create a burgeoning middle class the chinese middle class inevitably would demand more of a say in their governance and that would lead over time to a more pluralistic china and i think what happened there was we just we collectively the american policymakers underestimated the extent to which the chinese leadership the leadership of the chinese communist party was not stupid they knew that was what folks in the west thought jiang zemin the then president of china gave a speech to party officials and explained it and said the western powers think that by bringing us into this trading system they're going to lay the seeds for our demise but we're not going to let that happen and we underestimated the extent to which the chinese leadership was intent on preserving not just its authoritarian political system but also its non market economy and that's another key part of the story.
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What i want to go back to your initial theory that hey the winners are going to do the winning is going to be so big that the losers will get taken care of explain to the audience when did that become pretty evident that that was not that was not going to happen that part of the deal was not going to be fulfilled sir i think.
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It didn't take long within a few years of china joining the wto.
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Was clear that the amount of chinese imports was far exceeding what the us government estimates had been there was a study by the international trade commission as the us was taking up the legislation that facilitated china's joining the wto that estimated that after that happened after china joined imports of chinese goods into the us would increase by seven percent in the first year instead they rose by twenty five percent and over three years they rose by fifty percent a lot of those products had an impact on factory towns across the midsection of the united states even as we were all benefiting from from cheaper chinese goods from lower interest rates thanks to all the capital that was flowing into the country as the flip side of the trade deficit that spread benefits across the economy almost like frosting on a cake but the problem was the costs of this transformation were laid on the backs of folks in our society with the least amount of education the fewest skills in basic manufacturing they took the brunt of it and what was left behind was almost the equivalent of economic tumors in some of these communities but within you know by two thousand five two thousand six in the bush administration treasury secretary hank paulson was pushing for the administration to do more to address the needs of the workers who were hurt by this and i remember interviewing george bush and two thousand six or seven i think it was and i put this question to him and asked whether more wasn't needed whether the system should be more robust and he said no he thought the existing program which is called trade adjustment assistance always terribly inadequate poorly funded he thought that was sufficient and of course it wasn't.
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David can you hang on one second we're taking a short commercial break david j lynch is with us the author of the world's worst bet if you want to understand the rise and fall of globalization in a very accessible book tells it through stories lots of data but tells it through stories of individuals this is the one that can be very quick read get you up to speed up the learning curve because this has not been sorted out yet as you can tell but we argue every day here in the war room short commercial break also the viceroy mike davis as we await the president of turkey to arrive to the white house for meeting with the president states short break back in a moment.
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So folks instead of me just screaming about it all the time you now get to read about it in a really terrific book the world's worst bet the rise and fall of globalization david lynch is the author i want to get you back when we've got more time because i want to talk about kind of the where we are now where we go but a question i've always had to myself is because president trump is not a politician when he got into this he's a business guy but he has these kind of innate instincts right how did the clintons as savvy as they are in understanding bill clinton you know bob rubin these guys are kind of the architects in the nineties how did hillary clinton who you know is kind of our arch nemesis here but i've always said hey brilliant and particularly they have great political instincts how did they miss the importance of this story to the american people and how the american people out in the particularly the heartland of this country and this is how we pierced the blue when i got into the thing i said we're going to go after the blue wall we're going to go after pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin and iowa and ohio which weren't in our camps at the time because this is the heart of where the destruction was and clinton can't stand up and she never in fact she doubled she kind of doubled and tripled down how did that.
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Happen sir good question you know i remember interviewing her during the during the two thousand eight campaign primary campaign when she was running against barack obama and the white working class was sort last stand in places like pennsylvania and i remember interviewing her in a high school gym in that state and she was saying things about the need to adjust our approach to globalization use more industrial policy the kind of things that really didn't come to fruition certainly in the democratic party until joe biden was elected in twenty twenty so i think to some degree they saw this but they didn't act on it and by the time we get to the twenty sixteen election a lot of these communities these so called china shock communities that have just taken in the chops from the rise of china they get hit again by the global financial crisis in two thousand eight and that's made worse by global capital flows and then you have the weakest recovery in the post war era so by the time twenty sixteen rolls around these people have been battered and bruised and they're desperate for anything other than the establishment approach and they didn't have much of a choice seen through that lens in twenty twelve but by twenty sixteen you've got a pretty clear choice between an establishment well regarded establishment figure former secretary of state hillary clinton or this very disruptive very unorthodox populist figure donald trump who is basically saying we're going to throw all this stuff out and do it one hundred eighty degrees different.
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David when everybody get the book we're going to have you back very quickly where do people go if you're giving any talks or book visits any interviews where do people go to get up to that on your social media and where they go find.
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The book well they can find me on social media davidj lynch both on x blue sky i'm findable on facebook i'm even now on substack david j lynch one there the book's on amazon barnes and noble the publisher hachette so it's out there in all the usual spots and as you rightly pointed out this isn't an economics textbook i try to tell the stories of individual americans and show folks how they were affected over these years.
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No it's the power of it it's a very powerful narrative history it's got a lot of economics in it but it's accessible to folks to kind of understand what sometimes seems like you need a harvard mba to understand david j lynch thank you sir thank you for writing it thank you for coming on war room appreciate you.
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Very accessible folks the rise and fall of globalization of course we know it's not over it ain't over till it's over certainly not over do i have i want to play i got the viceroy here and i've got it here for a couple reasons do i have a short clip play this clip and then i'll jump in breaking news of the night is that federal prosecutors have written and submitted a memo explaining why charges should not be brought against former fbi director james comey that news comes a day after a day of intense speculation that donald trump's new acting us attorney in the eastern district of virginia adjacent to washington dc will seek an indictment of james comey possibly for lying to congress before tuesday of next week because the five year statute of limitations on that charge will expire on tuesday that that goes a couple more minutes but ken delaney and who is kind of the comms department for the for the the permanent justice department not trump's justice department leaked got a leak last night at ten o' clock at night that three career prosecutors are writing a memo that's saying comey can't be charged shouldn't be charged he can't win in court and doesn't meet standards let's start there mike davis the viceroy where are we on this thing.
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Well let's just step back and tell the audience what happened to your five years ago just short of five years ago we had james comey go before the senate judiciary committee on a congressional investigation about crossfire hurricane where it's very clear now that that's the democrat operatives in the in the obama white house biden obama hillary comey clapper brennan so many others they politicized and weaponized intel agencies and law enforcement before the twenty sixteen election to take out then candidate donald trump and help hillary clinton to cover up her foreign corruption that we've talked about on this show for the last three years comey was called to testify before the senate judiciary committee he was under oath and senator ted cruz asked him if he had discussions with the media right about crossfire hurricane and there's evidence he clearly lied he clearly perjured himself and andrew mccabe his deputy has evidence that comey did talk to the media so that is five years ago right and so we're coming up on the statute of limitations i think it's september thirtieth the statute of statute of limitations for most federal felonies like perjury obstruction of congress is or it's actually obstruction of a congressional investigation but obstruction of congress for short is five years and so the grand jury would have to indict comey by september thirtieth and so that's what president trump's new us attorney in the eastern district of virginia according to these press reports is going to do and remember with a grand jury indictment you have to go to a grand jury of your peers they look at the evidence and they determine whether there's probable cause to move forward with criminal charges and so that's according to the news reports that's what's going to happen now you have these apparently three assistant us attorneys in the eastern district of virginia or wherever the hell they are who are writing a memo saying that there's not evidence and that they're not only is that bad they're leaking this memo to friendly reporters and by doing that they are violating clearly violating their attorney obligations their obligations to their client client confidentiality the department of justice rules as it applies to attorneys particularly federal prosecutors it is highly inappropriate it's illegal that these prosecutors are leaking this memo to their friends in the liberal media and you have to ask why are they doing this they're doing this because they're trying to protect james comey they're trying to protect these lawfare democrats like they've been trying to protect them for the last eight years and so that's for the grand jury to decide whether there is evidence that james comey committed perjury and obstruction of a congressional investigation i would also say this that remember in addition to perjury and an obstruction of a congressional investigation there's also the charge of conspiracy and the conspiracy is ongoing when you cover up a conspiracy you continue the conspiracy so in order to stop we got.
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It we got but we got it yeah but we got to get we got to get this one down now because you're gonna get a you're gonna get a this is low hanging fruit and you've got a a you know the the time's going to run out right this conspiracy is not going the president the frustration with the president came out when he put the thing out about pam and he's sitting there to listen to all the guys i mean we have two things going on number one is the war against the deep state of which doj has got to take the lead on and the other is what this political violence is being driven by the left and media now but let's take the go off the deep state do you think we're start hiring more people because the president is clearly frustrated we just need more bodies over at doj and at the us attorney's offices to kind of make this to make this happen we've got a minute here mike and i'll hold you over briefly into the next block but do we have enough bodies now have doj understood that the president's frustrated he wants brennan he wants these other guys.
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Perp walked i have said on your show steve for over three years since the mar a lago raid that they need to open a criminal investigation and bring criminal charges in the southern district of florida fort pierce division where they did the mar a lago raid under eighteen usc section two hundred and thirty one conspiracy against rights because the democrats politicized and weaponized intel agencies and law enforcement to go after their political enemies for non crimes that is textbook conspiracy against rights the democrats are very familiar with this charge is one of the four charges they brought against trump by jack smith for the non crime of objecting to a presidential election which is allowed by the electoral count act of eighteen eighty seven in the first amendment i have made it my mission for three years to bring accountability i'm going to make it my mission for the next four years to make sure there's accountability and i promise that justice is coming my good friend jason redding quinones just got confirmed as the us attorney for the southern district of florida and i have very publicly called on jason redding kenyotes to open up this criminal probe in the fort pierce division for conspiracy against rights mike hang over one.
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Second hold you for a couple of minutes on the other side the viceroy is with us what if he had the brightest mind in the war room delivering critical financial research every month steve bannon here war room listeners know jim rickards i love this guy he's our wise man a former cia pentagon and white house advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets jim predicted trump's electoral college victory exactly three hundred twelve to two hundred twenty six down to the actual number itself now he's issuing a dire warning about april eleventh a moment that could define trump's presidency and your financial future his latest book money gpt exposes how ai is setting the stage for financial chaos bank runs at lightning speeds algorithm driven crashes and even threats to national security right now war room members get a free copy of moneygpt when they sign up for strategic intelligence this is jim's flagship financial newsletter strategic intelligence i read it you should read it time is running out go to rickards war room dot com that's all one word rickards war rooms rickards with an s go now and claim your free book that's rickards war room dot com do it today if you're a homeowner you need to listen to this in today's ai and cyber world scammers are stealing home titles with more ease than ever and your equity is the target here's how it works criminals forge your signature on one document use a fake notary stamp pay small fee with your county and boom your home title has been transferred out of your name then they take out loans using your equity or even sell your property you won't even know it's happened until you get a collection or foreclosure foreclosure notice so let me ask you when was the last time you personally checked your home title if you're like me the answer is never and that's exactly what scammers are counting on that's why i trust home title lock use promo code steve at hometitlelock dot com to make sure your title is still in your name you also get a free title history report plus a free fourteen day trial of their million dollar triple lock protection that's twenty four seven monitoring of your title urgent alerts to any changes and if fraud should happen they'll spend up to one million dollars to fix it go to hometitle lock dot com now use promo code steve that's hometitle lock dot com promo code steve do it today okay here we go right there on full screen is the president of turkey the president of turkey is arriving now for the bilateral meeting the president's going to greet him he's going to the working side of the west wing we'll continue to watch that the president i'm sure step out shake his hand they'll go on the oval probably fifteen twenty minutes away from starting the bi lap brian glenn is there we're all over this at real america's voice mike davis real quickly brother and we're going to keep that shot up mike the other aspect of this this political violence is now spinning out of control coach shot last night of course snipers at ice facilities they're burning down they're blocking the ice facility portland every night what does the he's designate antifa a terrorist organization they've designated the transgender militias as nihilistic violent extremists nv's or fbi what needs to be done now to stop this there's no longer a debate about this what do we need to do to put an end.
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To this sir it's very clear that today's democrat party is the party of violence and we need to take this very seriously and they must face these these violent terrorists who are trying to kill president trump and trying to kill his supporters killed charlie kirk this is unacceptable and you have these democrats politicians cheering on this violence and it's unacceptable so what needs to happen is is the secretary of state in consultation with the attorney general and the treasury secretary in addition to designating antifa as a domestic terrorist organization they need to designate antifa as a foreign terrorist organization to start charging people who support antifa with material support to terrorism you need to expel all aliens legal and illegal who are associated with antifa and you need to cut off their funding you also need to use our federal laws to go after everyone who attacks federal law enforcement for assaults on federal law enforcement and attack federal property you need to charge them with those crimes and they also need to charge conspiracy which will you can either do a rico conspiracy a racketeering conspiracy that we've used to take out the klan and the mob or you can use the general conspiracy charge and you can get a lot of these bad bad actors with conspiracy charges and so it is time to take off the kid gloves and go after these these violent left wing terrorists this is not a both sides issue this is a today's democrat party issue of violence and it needs to be at the federal level we need to have state attorneys general we need to have local das this needs to be in all of governments all of america approached to take take out these these these terrorists and they need we need to wipe them out legally politically and financially.
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Mike davis article three where do people go on social media particularly because you're always coming in hot and then over at article three where to folks.
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Go article three project dot org article number three project dialg the most important thing the posse does is take action action action action also follow us on social media and donate but only what you can afford and thank you very much steve.
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Thank you the viceroy mike davis thank you sir appreciate you for changing your schedule around let's go now at the it's the willard hotel from noon to five will be a roundtable on one of the most important topics of our day we're going to cover it on all our streaming platforms throughout the day and then back at five o' clock for a wrap up britt mchenry new dc reporter for and correspondent for real america's voice and and the great claire dooley claire as you remember a young filmmaker that we introduced to this audience a couple of years ago guys where are you right now why is this important what's going to be covered and who's going to cover it.
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Well this is very important this is following up on president trump's press conference about autism rates spiking as we know one in every thirty one i believe since twenty twenty two was the latest estimates but claire will elaborate on that we are here it's all about to unfold at about noon but claire i want you to take us through this like steve said you're you work on documentaries you're a maha mom what about this panel will illuminate anybody streaming anybody listening anybody reading about this in more in depth about the rise in these cases we're seeing and what the concern.
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Is so i think something we can expect from this panel today is to learn about the broad spectrum of autism right so when we talk about autism we're not talking about being slightly quirky or being good at math we are talking about profound autism a lot of these cases they have seizures round the clock gastrointestinal issues brain inflammation and the medical industry has slapped a title of autism on these people because the spectrum of autism is so broad so today we are having a broad discussion in detail broken into four panels where you can learn about you know the genetics behind autism the epigenetics the environmental factors of course we're going to talk about vaccines and we're going to talk about activism as well we have spellers where we have these incredible cases where non verbal or non speaking autistic adults who haven't spoken their entire life at twenty five are learning how to speak with these boards so we have a lot of really amazing topics and conversations that should be happening around autism and so with the mahat institute and maha action we're really excited about the announcement last monday but we want to go deeper right you know we're really glad trump brought up you know tylenol and acetaminophen and all these different issues but today we're going to go as deep as we can to these topics you can arm yourself with information and figure out what what's actually going on with autism because so far the medical industry has gaslit mothers right so i traveled the country i interviewed parents thousands of parents with polytomy on the chd bus and we interview parents whose children had been injured by autism or by vaccines and had caused autism and so those parents told the same story over and over again they didn't know each other but they had the same exact experience experiences and you know by eighteen months your kid's getting twenty five different shots in the united states and these parents are saying hey look i'm seeing these adverse reactions my kids started banging their head on the wall they're losing speech they're losing the ability to walk they're having seizures they're having fevers they're having rashes and doctors are just saying oh no it's fine keep vaccinating give them some tylenol go home sleep it off it'll be fine and then when the mother sees her child and her child she's losing her child in front of her own eyes and the medical industry is completely pretending like it's not happening we are here today to say it is happening your child is regressing and we're going to go into the details of all the science behind what's going on so i'm really really excited why has.
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There been such a resistance to it on the phone we spoke about jenny mccarthy and jim carrey going back twice twenty thirty years ago that started to ring alarm bells as parents as concerned citizens about the vaccination rate why when you speak to these families affected has it taken it so long i think that's a question a lot of people not as educated on everything hopefully they will be today why has it taken so long to get to this point where we're now touching taboo subjects like tylenol over the counterparts medicines why has it had this stigma well there's several.
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Factors at play here i mean ultimately we have censorship and rfk junior has talked about the direct market to consumer advertising that's a big issue pharmaceutical interest in nineteen eighty six the vaccine injury act was passed where pharmaceutical companies were given immunity from lawsuits from vaccines and we had several different cases with the swine flu and even polio where people were brain injured with dtp vaccine that they later recalled and replaced with dtap and there's been profound cases in history with vaccine injury and the whole goal of the medical or pharmaceutical interest is to erase them right we have a whole court set up in the united states to pay out awards for injury yet vaccine injury doesn't exist i mean come on like this is that's why we're here because we're saying hey this is actually happening and i think this conversation should have happened twenty years ago.
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Thirty years ago hey brit hey brit hey brit let me jump let me jump in here for a second president trump he did talk about tylenol and he talked about but i know trump i think as well as anybody publicly and when he talked about the little baby and the vat laying next to it and you could see it touched him as a human in the stories with the mothers and he talked about the long history with his friends but but then he said later he with everything else he's got going on and is known for he's going to stake his presidency on the success of this or reversing this with autism that is president trump driving a stake in the ground and saying not just am i all in i mean he kind of out bobbied bobby kennedy that day which is impossible to do he said i'm staking my presidency on reversing this how does that impact you and your movement have who have kind of been treated as you know outliers or kind of wing nuts up until the trump presidency.
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I would definitely say that a lot of these mothers are outliers they can't leave their home because autism is so severe that the public cannot see them and so to have the president of the united states come out and say hey we're going to look into this we're going to stake i'm going to stake my presidency on this it means a lot to us but at the same time we are going to keep on doing at mahab what we've always done i mean i am deeply rooted with grassroots organizations all over the country and it doesn't just stop with vaccines it goes with the health of america.
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In general hey claire we've got to cut to the white house the oval office the president started we'll come back to you guys let's go to the oval office president united states we're going.
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To get a lot done but i have great respect for this man and we've had a very good relationship for a long time if you remember he let pastor brunson he freed pastor brunson pastor brunson was put in jail for thirty five years before i got there this was a group that should have stopped it and the president after i called him released him which was a great thing for our christian community our evangelical community the evangelicals really really wanted that it was very important to him so i always remembered that but he released him from thirty five years in prison and pastor brunson now is healthy happy and well we're very happy about that but it's a great honor to have the president of turkey with us and how are you fine say a few words thank you great guy turkey america.
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First mister president i am very pleased that this visit actually coincides with the eighty eight with unga so i am very pleased to be here with my colleagues and friends and as we have said during the first term of your presidency and during your second term we are able to carry turkey and us relations to a much different level and process and as you said we have an opportunity here today to be able to discuss some of the issues regarding the f thirty five the f sixteen and also the hokbag case and we will have an opportunity to thoroughly discuss them and based on what you have mentioned regarding the habela the school we are ready to do whatever we can that falls on our part and i will when i get back try to discuss this issue with the esteemed mister bartholomos to discuss how we can.
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Move forward on that okay very good i would like to be able to do that the greek orthodox church was here and they would really like to have some help they need some help and he said i'd mention it we appreciate it so this is a tough man this is a guy who's highly opinionated usually i don't like opinionated people but i always like this one but he's a tough one and he does an amazing job in his country and we've had tremendous relationships both having to do with war and having to do with with trade and i guess today we're talking about both i'd like to have him stop buying any oil from russia while russia continues this rampage against ukraine and they've been fighting they've lost millions of lives already and for what you know for what disgraceful and i said yesterday let it keep going because their economy is absolutely terrible right now and i think it's i think it's a shame that they're doing that killing a lot of people unnecessarily seven thousand eight hundred eighteen people were killed last week mostly military people their people and ukrainians more russians actually than ukraine a little bit more but it's such a waste of human life and so we ought to stop putin ought to stop stop and with that we'll get to a little bit of a discussion we're going to make some great trade deals for both countries we do a lot of business with turkey they build great products they build beautiful great products really fantastic manufacturers and we buy a lot from them and they buy a lot from us would you have any questions please you've repeatedly called out obama and biden administration administrations for their stupid decisions one example you gave was refusal to.
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Sell the patriot missile defense systems to.
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Turkey which resulted in the expulsion of the country from the f thirty five program now you are known to be a great deal maker in turkey what can you do to undo the stupidity yes cnn turk cnn because you sounded like a nice guy but you sound like the real deal quite frankly thank you we're going to be discussing the patriot system which is the best system we'll discuss that we're going to discuss the f thirty five we'll be discussing all of the things that you know about and some of you mentioned and i think he'll be successful with buying the things he'd like to buy what concrete steps can you take to make that deal we haven't even started yet can i have one question he wants the f thirty five and he's wanted that and we're talking about that very seriously and the f sixteen we're in great shape certain other things he needed as you know and i'm going to see to it that we get that to him he needs certain things and we need certain things and we're going to come to a conclusion you'll know by the end of the day can.
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I direct the questions to president.
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Mr.
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President.
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Trump.
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Lessons get rejected.
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In anew when are you planning to lift cancer thank you thank you the gentleman is.
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Asking mister president you have referred to president trump's peace efforts and you have also contact with many leaders in the region and what do you think that you can do about this and mister president has said that yes i believe in the peace effort that president trump is leading and together we will be able to overcome the challenges in the.
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Region i think it's true he's got tremendous influence in the region yeah please mister president when are you planning to lift qatar sanctions against turkey sanctions yes mister president do we have a big meeting almost immediately president erdogan is removing removing tariffs on us goods and what impact it would be in us production where are you from turkey we have a lot of people from turkey because i like the questions and we'll see about tariffs we're going to be talking about tariffs he already removed them well we're going to be talking mister president.
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What about gaza mister president russia even if not all nato countries stop purchasing.
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Russian oil we're going to be seeing.
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About that the nato countries were disappointing in that regard but they've been very amazing in other ways they did as you know they went from two percent to five percent gdp and that's a big step and it's paid i mean they have the money there we're selling a tremendous amount of military equipment to nato we're selling we're not giving like biden did we're selling it to nato it's a lot they're buying a lot i assume they're giving it to ukraine they could buy it for other reasons too but i assume they're giving most of it to ukraine but they're buying highly sophisticated weaponry and they're paying for it full price and that's how we're involved biden gave three hundred fifty billion dollars look this war would have never started if i were president if i were president this war would never be happening would have never happened yeah mister president i would like to ask about gaza are you on the same page mister erdogan for palestine israel well i don't know his stance i can't tell you about that i just say that we want to get gaza over i had a great meeting with the leaders of that area of that region generally speaking a little we had a great meeting the other day at unga as you know and i think i think we're close to getting some kind of a deal done you know we want to we want to get the hostages back i have to get the hostages back we're the ones that got the hostages all of them that we have now but it looks like there are twenty living hostages and probably thirty eight or so dead hostages pretty sad and the parents of those dead souls those dead mostly men boys in many cases like literally boys they want those bodies back so badly as much as though they were alive and so we had a very good meeting with the representatives of the most powerful countries in the middle east and i think we're going to be close to it here mister president we've noticed that in the ukrainian war and during the israeli iran war the airspace of the nato countries is very fragile and it needs to be stronger and in that sense turkey being the second largest army in nato it needs to support its air force and air defense how do you look at this issue in general as a nato plate we're in nato and you know they're paying now five percent of gdp nobody thought that was possible and they agreed to that six months ago when i was there and the relationship is very good the nato countries i mean with us is the strongest it's ever been and we used to complain that they're paying two percent but they're not paying the united states was paying almost everything and now they're paying five percent and they paid and that's trillions of dollars you know we're talking about trillions of dollars and they're spending that giving that money to us and we are giving them great defensive you know the patriots and all of the different javelins all the different missile systems and everything else that they want but it's you know it's trillions of dollars so we appreciate that they did that so they went from two percent to five percent of gdp and that was something that nobody even would bring up biden should have brought it up a long time ago because under biden we paid three hundred fifty billion dollars and all it did is make things worse so we'll see how thirty five s to turkey fighter jets at thirty five s do you want to talk about fighter jets for turkey yes we are going to see any step is going to be taken today about the issue about the things are going on in the gaza palestine are we going to we have a very strong dialogue going on with saudi arabia with i would say you have four or five real leaders that are being good as you know i met with qatar saudi arabia uae we met with jordan the king of jordan was there we had great we had a really great meeting i think a lot was determined at that meeting and i have to meet with israel and i have to do that also they know what i want and we think i think we can get that one done i hope we can get it done a lot of people are dying but we want the hostages back we don't want them back one this week one and two months from now three later and you know like the way it's been going we got them all back we got a lot of them back we got our american the american alexander we got the american hostages back but we have now twenty plus thirty eight bodies dead bodies and we want them all back we want them back at one time president erdogan will help to release the hostages in do i think what do you think president erdogan will help to release the hostages i don't know if he'll help i don't really think we have i don't think it'll be necessary this case i think we're going to be in a pretty good position there are a lot of people that want that done i met with great leaders look over you saw the people that were there and great leaders egypt was also represented we met with the leaders of that part of the world and they want to see if they can get something done and i'm going to have to tell israel let's go we want to get the hostages back everybody wants to see that war over with by the way everybody so we're going to see what happens how do you see a joint initiative with president erdogan to bring the president of russia putin and president zelensky to.
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The negotiating table well i can tell.
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You that president erdogan is very respected by both of them everybody respects erdogan they really respect erdogan i do and i think he could have a big influence if he wants to right now he's very neutral he likes being neutral so do i like being neutral but he's somebody that if he got involved the best thing he could do is not buy oil and gas from russia if he did that that would be probably the best thing he know putin like i know putin i thought putin i settled as you know seven wars and it's probably more than that if you really want to know the real facts but seven wars and i thought this would be among the easier ones to settle but i'm very disappointed in putin and he's been fighting hard he's been fighting long and they lost millions they lost like a million soldiers and you know they've with all of the heavy bombardment over the last two weeks they've gained almost no land think of that they've gained almost no land and i'm not going to ever call anybody a paper tiger but russia spent millions and millions of dollars in bombs missiles ammunition and lives their lives and they've gained virtually no land i think it's time to stop i really do this.
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Is steve bannon the war room we're going to toss now to the charlie kirk show we're going to live stream the symposium on all of our platforms grace and mo will do it on getter on our real america's voice platform and on rumble so stay tuned for that we're back at five what you want to say about current.
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Mister president i like him he's from cnn fake news the worst fake news but i like him so it's cnn turkey.
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Syria has been a major issue between the.
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Two countries for the past decade and and you said the future to syria is in erdogan's hands back in i think december and january and the countries are in the process of integrating real fractures into the main government when do you want to see that happen well.
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I think president erdogan you missed the irs tax deadline you think it's just going to go away well think again the irs doesn't mess around and they're applying pressure like we haven't seen in years so if you haven't filed in a while even if you can't pay don't wait and don't face the irs alone you need the trusted experts by your side tax network usa tax network usa isn't like other tax relief companies they have an edge a preferred direct line to the irs they know which agents to talk to and which ones to avoid they use smart aggressive strategies to settle your tax problems quickly and in your favor whether you owe ten thousand dollars or ten million dollars tax network usa has helped resolve over one billion dollars in tax debt and they can help you too don't wait on this it's only going to get worse call text network usa right now it's free talk with one of their strategists and put your irs troubles behind you put it behind you today call tax network usa at one eight hundred nine five eight one thousand that's eight hundred nine five eight one thousand or visit tax network usa tnusa com bannon do it today do not let this thing get ahead of you do it today.
Title: The World's Worst Bet: Globalization; Autism Round Table
Date: September 25, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Featured Guests:
This episode of Bannon’s War Room dives deeply into the failures of globalization as chronicled in David J. Lynch’s new book, “The World’s Worst Bet,” examining the decisions, personalities, and unintended consequences that shaped America’s economic history over the past 30 years. The show transitions to a roundtable on the rising rates and controversies surrounding autism, especially the connections between vaccines, pharmaceutical industry practices, and grassroots activism. In the latter half, the focus shifts to breaking political news—including federal legal battles, left-wing violence, and live coverage of President Trump’s meeting with President Erdogan of Turkey.
A critical examination of American-led globalization and its social, political, and economic aftermath—both domestically and on the world stage—followed by a hard-hitting discussion on autism, medical policy, and public health controversy.
Guest: David J. Lynch
Notable Quote:
Guest: Mike Davis
Hosts/Moderators: Britt McHenry & Claire Dooley
Timestamps: [41:21] onward
Notable Quotes:
The language throughout is assertive, impassioned, and combative—characteristic of Bannon’s populist, nationalist perspective. Guests provide deeply informed, sometimes technical takes (Lynch), incendiary legal/justice analysis (Davis), and heartfelt, activist-driven testimony (Dooley). Trump’s remarks, as usual, are direct, transactional, and filled with both bravado and anecdotal commentary.
Episode 4805 of Bannon's War Room offers a comprehensive, multi-layered exploration of America's globalization "bet" and its aftereffects, connecting the economic betrayal felt in US industrial heartland to today’s political, legal, and cultural turbulence. The show pivots mid-episode to contentious public health territory, unpacking the explosive debate over autism, government policy, and parental rights. The program concludes with an unfiltered window into current US-Turkey foreign relations, underscoring Bannon’s signature “war room” approach: urgent, wide-ranging, never shying away from controversy or tough questions.