Podcast Summary: Bannon’s War Room – Episode 4805

Title: The World's Worst Bet: Globalization; Autism Round Table
Date: September 25, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Featured Guests:

• David J. Lynch (Author, “The World’s Worst Bet”)
• Mike Davis (Legal/Justice Commentator)
• Britt McHenry & Claire Dooley (MAHA Institute, Autism Roundtable)
• President of Turkey (via live coverage)

Overview

This episode of Bannon’s War Room dives deeply into the failures of globalization as chronicled in David J. Lynch’s new book, “The World’s Worst Bet,” examining the decisions, personalities, and unintended consequences that shaped America’s economic history over the past 30 years. The show transitions to a roundtable on the rising rates and controversies surrounding autism, especially the connections between vaccines, pharmaceutical industry practices, and grassroots activism. In the latter half, the focus shifts to breaking political news—including federal legal battles, left-wing violence, and live coverage of President Trump’s meeting with President Erdogan of Turkey.

Main Theme

A critical examination of American-led globalization and its social, political, and economic aftermath—both domestically and on the world stage—followed by a hard-hitting discussion on autism, medical policy, and public health controversy.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Rise and Fall of Globalization

Guest: David J. Lynch

• Lynch introduces his book, “The World’s Worst Bet,” as an accessible narrative tracing the optimism and failures of US-led globalization from the end of the Cold War to today.
• Initial post-Cold War optimism (“end of history”) believed liberal democracy and free markets would spread worldwide, guaranteeing peace and prosperity.
  • [03:08] Lynch: “There was a very strong rhetorical narrative … that expanded trade by making China more prosperous would create a burgeoning middle class ... over time to a more pluralistic China.”
• Both US political parties were united on the merits of globalization throughout the 1980s and 1990s.
  • [08:12] Bannon: “...there was no dissension. There was no meaningful dissent of both political parties...on basic central fact of the modern industrial economy—both parties essentially had the same outlook.”
• China’s accession to the WTO was a tipping point; US estimates dramatically underestimated the scale and impact of Chinese imports on US manufacturing jobs.
  • [11:58] Lynch: “A study by the International Trade Commission ... estimated that imports of Chinese goods into the U.S. would increase by 7%... Instead, they rose by 25%; over three years, by 50%.”
• The winners of globalization thrived, but promised support for the “losers”—those devastated by offshoring and automation—never materialized.
  • [06:32] Lynch: “It was an attractive theory ... but the problem was it never happened.”
• Political ramifications: The unaddressed economic (and social) fallout led to the rise of populist/nationalist movements and disrupted longstanding political alignments.
• Discussion on why establishment Democrats, particularly the Clintons, failed to grasp the populist backlash against globalization before the 2016 election.
  • [18:14] Lynch: “I think to some degree they saw this, but they didn’t act on it ... and by the time 2016 rolls around, these people have been battered and bruised and they’re desperate for anything other than the establishment approach.”

Notable Quote:

• [09:23] Lynch: “There was a clear sense in both parties that expanded trade by making China more prosperous would create ... pressure for democratic change. We just ... underestimated the Chinese leadership.”

2. Justice, Political Violence, and Deep State Controversies

Guest: Mike Davis

• Breaking news: Federal prosecutors are avoiding charges against former FBI Director James Comey as the statute of limitations approaches on potential perjury and obstruction charges related to "Crossfire Hurricane.”
  • [22:34] Davis: “You have these ... prosecutors ... violating clearly violating their attorney obligations ... leaking this memo to their friends in the liberal media ... trying to protect James Comey.”
• Bannon and Davis allege systematic protection of establishment figures by the DOJ and federal prosecutors, and emphasize the need for more robust prosecution of “deep state” actors.
  • [26:55] Davis: “It's very clear that today’s Democrat party is the party of violence ... They must face these violent terrorists who are trying to kill President Trump and trying to kill his supporters ... It is time to take off the kid gloves and go after these violent leftwing terrorists.”
• Suggests RICO-type prosecutions for left-wing activists and calls for designating Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization.

3. Autism Round Table – Medical Policy and Grassroots Activism

Hosts/Moderators: Britt McHenry & Claire Dooley

• Launch of a major roundtable examining the surge in autism rates (1 in 31 children), going deeper than mainstream coverage.
• Claire Dooley emphasizes the severity of “profound autism,” highlighting stories of families facing seizures, GI issues, brain inflammation, and speech loss in children.
  • [35:46] Dooley: “...When we talk about autism, we’re not talking about being slightly quirky or good at math ... we are talking about profound autism.”
• Detailed discussion on the alleged connection between vaccines, Tylenol/acetaminophen, and the spike in autism rates.
  • [36:40] Dooley: “...by 18 months, your kid's getting 25 different shots in the United States, and these parents are saying ... I'm seeing these adverse reactions ... and the doctors are just saying, ‘Oh no, it’s fine, keep vaccinating ...’”
• Points out the 1986 Vaccine Injury Act and the rise of pharmaceutical industry power, direct-to-consumer advertising, and censorship of vaccine injury claims.
  • [38:50] Dooley: “...the whole goal of the medical or pharmaceutical interest is to erase them ... we have a whole court set up in the United States to pay out awards for injury yet vaccine injury doesn’t exist.”
• Comments on President Trump’s expansion of attention to the issue: “Trump ... is going to stake his presidency on the success of this [autism crisis] or reversing this.”

4. Live: President Trump & President Erdogan of Turkey – U.S.–Turkey Relations

Timestamps: [41:21] onward

• President Trump welcomes Erdogan to the White House, discusses past collaborations and issues including the release of Pastor Brunson, defense relationships, and economic ties.
  • [41:21] Trump: “He released [Pastor Brunson] from 35 years in prison ... It's a great honor to have the President of Turkey with us.”
• Topics discussed:
  • Turkey’s desire to acquire F-35 and F-16 fighter jets.
  • The role of NATO and burden sharing (European countries now contributing 5% of GDP).
  • Ukraine war, US weapons deals, and sanctions on Russia.
  • Discussion of peace efforts in the Middle East and hostage situations in Gaza.
  • Press Q&A covers Turkish-American relations, the effect of the Biden/Obama administration’s foreign policy decisions, and current regional conflicts.
  • Trump repeatedly criticizes past US administrations’ handling of defense sales and foreign policy, while emphasizing his “deal-maker” approach and the importance of direct negotiation.

Notable Quotes:

• [42:07] Trump: "This is a tough man ... he does an amazing job in his country. We've had tremendous relationships both having to do with war and with trade … we do a lot of business with Turkey, they build great products."
• [49:11] Trump: “I'm not going to call anybody a paper tiger, but Russia spent millions and millions ... and they've gained virtually no land. I think it's time to stop, I really do.”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [03:08] David J. Lynch: “...there was a very strong rhetorical narrative at the time... that expanded trade... would create a burgeoning middle class... lead over time to a more pluralistic China... but we underestimated the leadership.”
• [11:58] Lynch: “...the costs of this transformation were laid on the backs of folks in our society with the least amount of education, the fewest skills in basic manufacturing. They took the brunt of it... economic tumors in some of these communities...”
• [18:14] Lynch: “...they saw this but didn’t act on it... these communities ... get hit again by the global financial crisis ... the weakest recovery in the postwar era ... by 2016, battered and bruised ... didn’t have much of a choice...”
• [22:34] Mike Davis: “...these prosecutors are leaking this memo to their friends in the liberal media ... trying to protect James Comey ... for the grand jury to decide whether there is evidence.”
• [26:55] Davis: “It is time to take off the kid gloves and go after these violent leftwing terrorists ... this is not a both sides issue ... We need to wipe them out legally, politically and financially.”
• [35:46] Claire Dooley: “...When we talk about autism, we’re not talking about being slightly quirky ... we are talking about profound autism ... multitude of severe cases and symptoms.”
• [40:39] Dooley: “To have the president of the United States come out and say, ‘Hey, we are going to look into this ... I’m staking my presidency on this...’ it means a lot to us...”
• [41:21] Trump: “It’s a great honor to have the president of Turkey with us... he does an amazing job in his country.”
• [49:11] Trump: “...Russia spent millions ... and they’ve gained virtually no land. I think it’s time to stop, I really do.”

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:00] – Bannon introduces theme of the episode, book and author
• [03:08] – [14:09] – David J. Lynch on globalization: origins, policies, China, impacts
• [14:53] – Bannon shills for gold; ad breaks (skipped in this summary)
• [16:59] – [21:08] – Lynch on how Clinton, Democrats, and elite “missed” growing backlash
• [22:34] – [34:33] – Mike Davis on DOJ, the “deep state,” and political violence
• [35:09] – [41:11] – Autism roundtable (Britt McHenry & Claire Dooley): epidemic, vaccine connection, grassroots activism
• [41:21] – [56:57] – Live coverage: President Trump & President Erdogan press statements and Q&A; Ukraine/Russia/Gaza/NATO/defense issues, economic relations

Language & Tone

The language throughout is assertive, impassioned, and combative—characteristic of Bannon’s populist, nationalist perspective. Guests provide deeply informed, sometimes technical takes (Lynch), incendiary legal/justice analysis (Davis), and heartfelt, activist-driven testimony (Dooley). Trump’s remarks, as usual, are direct, transactional, and filled with both bravado and anecdotal commentary.

Summary for New Listeners

Episode 4805 of Bannon's War Room offers a comprehensive, multi-layered exploration of America's globalization "bet" and its aftereffects, connecting the economic betrayal felt in US industrial heartland to today’s political, legal, and cultural turbulence. The show pivots mid-episode to contentious public health territory, unpacking the explosive debate over autism, government policy, and parental rights. The program concludes with an unfiltered window into current US-Turkey foreign relations, underscoring Bannon’s signature “war room” approach: urgent, wide-ranging, never shying away from controversy or tough questions.