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Episode 4827: Lead Up To Navy's 250th Anniversary; Peace In The Middle East
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Steve Bannon
This Sunday at 10am Eastern, history sets sail.
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I'm gonna have all folks from the navy, national security experts, you do not want to miss this.
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President Donald j. Trump arrives in Norfolk, Virginia aboard a mighty U. S. Aircraft carrier.
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Steve Bannon (Promo/Ad Voice)
Fight, fight, fight, win, win, win.
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Steve Bannon
As America celebrates 250 years of Navy power, Brace yourself for missile launches, roaring jets thund and the full force of America's seat strength on display. Hosted by Steve Bannon with live reporting from Jack posobec and Steve Gruber. Real America's voice brings you this front row seat to freedom in motion. It's not just coverage. It's a celebration of America's might. RAV presents America 250. Sea Power and Freedom coverage begins this Sunday, 10am Eastern. See you there.
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Steve Bannon
War room here's your host, Stephen k. Banner. It's Saturday the 4th of October at year of our Lord 2025. We kick off a very special weekend tomorrow from 10am Eastern Daylight Time all the way to 5 and maybe even later if it goes that long. We will be commemorating and observing the 250th anniversary of the birth of the United States Navy and president Trump. It's a little earlier than the date, but that's because President Trump's available to go and review the fleet in a massive naval exercise will take place off the Virginia capes tomorrow. We're going to cover it, start to finish. Our own Jack Posobec will actually be with the president. Steve Gruber will be on one of the combatants. And we'll have 10 to 15 experts, analysts, observers to walk through naval strategy, geopolitics, the state of the United States Navy, all of it tomorrow, starting at 10. And we're gonna just have an incredible cruise. Captain Sean Spicer, actually, Sean Spicer is going to be sworn in as a captain on Tuesday back in Washington D.C. so we'll have captain Sean Spicer, we're gonna have Eric Prince, I think Captain Fidel. We'll get Captain Fidel on the entire crew that normally does national security here at the Whirlwind, plus many others, specialist in, in naval warfare. Admiral Masso would join us. Admiral Hall, a bunch of folks, you don't want to miss this tomorrow. Very special. And I want to thank our first guest this morning and always an honor to start the show with Ambassador Monica Crowley. First off, Ambassador here. What a whirlwind you guys have been on. I've just, I've never seen anything like it. It's just absolutely extraordinary. And with the job you're doing is incredible. But the President United States never takes a day off. I mean on the one day he could get off, he's going to be spending all day with the Navy, which I know they love it out to review the fleet. And as you know, he's a, he's a huge fan of Victory at Sea. He knows that, that Samuel Elliot Morrison was a 10 hour documentary film by heart. And I know he's really looking forward to the mark. Can you walk us through it? This is part of, I think this is Navy 250, but part of overall America 250. Can you walk us through what it is and where are we in this commemoration celebration of America's 250th anniversary, ma'? Am.
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Ambassador Monica Crowley
Yes, of course. It's great to see you, Steve. Great to be with you, my friend. Thank you so much for having me on this very special weekend. You are exactly right. That President Trump is superhuman. He has superhuman energy. No days off. And in addition to my day job of being America's ambassador and chief of protocol of the United States, which is a 24, 7 job because every world leader wants to come in and see President Trump. They all love him, they all want to have face time with him and my office and I and I've got an extraordinary team. We handle all of those diplomatic engagements for the President, the Vice president and the Secretary of State. But in addition to that day job, the President has also honored me and blessed me with a position as his administration's representative for all of the big US hosted events including America 250, but also the FIFA World cup we have coming next year and the 2028 Olympic Games in Los Angeles. I haven't even had time to think about the Olympic Games yet, Steve. But all of these great big US hosted events are coming down the pike and we are now in the midst of America to 50. What you saw back in June was the first of several military anniversaries that the President is absolutely intent on celebrating. Because America's greatness, America's superpower status, none of that would be possible without 250 years of America's military greatness. So back in June, we had army 250. And you saw that spectacular military parade. Tomorrow we are going to be celebrating Navy 250. And I know how much this means to you personally, Steve, as a former naval officer. We're going to put on quite the celebration for you, for everybody who's put on that naval uniform over the last 250 years, for the American people and really for a truly global audience. Here's what we've got prepared. You saw what we did with the Army. Well, for the Navy, it's that in the water and more. So we are going to have about 20,000 sailors present. We are doing this at Naval Station Norfolk, as they say, Norfolk. We are going to have the USS George H.W. bush, which the President is going to be on. We're also going to have the USS Harry S. Truman. And a lot of the the celebration is going to be taking place on the Truman and also on the pier. So we've got about 20,000 sailors coming. We're also going to have ships of all kinds. We're going to have submarines, including nuclear submarines. We are going to have naval aircraft, including a lot of Top Gun flyovers, which are going to be spectacular. We're going to have special operations forces and units on the scene. We're going to honor our active duty, of course, our veterans, and we're going to have Gold Star families present as well. The President and the first lady will both be there, as well as the Secretary of War, Pete Hedseth, and the Secretary of the Navy, John Phelan. I'm also honored that they have asked me to speak prior to the President coming to the podium. So I'm really looking forward to that. It is going to be a landmark celebration, Steve, to honor and celebrate and tout 250 years of American naval supremacy, naval dominance, naval might. And we're going to put on quite a show.
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Steve Bannon
No, I can't tell you, people in the Navy couldn't be prouder of, of of this moment and of course you guys helping put it on. We just hope, I know that the Navy's going to shine. The army was fantastic. That parade was amazing, particularly not just simply the marching and the and look at reviewing the troops, but the material that came up and had that great look 30 to 45 minutes of just the greatest equipment that the army has. The Navy, I'm sure, sure. Well, yesterday, what is the is it I know there's going to be a naval exercise and I don't want to give too much specifics on the present schedule, but are you going to have the big event and speak first? Is that going to come later? Is the naval exercise in the middle of it? Have you guys worked that out yet?
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Ambassador Monica Crowley
Yes. So the run of show, and I know you're coming to air here tomorrow at 10am the run of show really begins around 11am noon and there are going to be live fire exercises. So you're going to see ships of all kinds engaged in naval exercises, including aircraft. Naval aviation is going to be very prominent and as Jack Sobec mentioned here yesterday, you're going to be able to see it up and down the Eastern seaboard. The entire Atlantic test range is going to be involved in these live fire exercises midday tomorrow. And of course, the president is going to be aboard a carrier ship. We're going to have an entire carrier strike group present. He's going to be aboard for this. So what the general public and the people present tomorrow at Naval Station Norfolk is going to be able to see, they're going to be able to see essentially what the President is going to be seeing right there on the cattle carrier battleship. So the entire thing that's going to be aired and you'll be able to see it here, of course, on Real America's Voice, but also@whitehouse.gov if you want to stream it, you'll be able to see up close and personal in real time what the president is seeing aboard the ship. And then he's going to come back to the land and he is going to speak to the nation and everybody assembled touting the tremendous successes throughout history. Steve, and you know this very well, all of the victories at sea that the United States Navy has achieved from the Barbary wars, which was really our first naval successes under President Thomas Jefferson, all the way through to today. And what we are doing around the world in it is going to be spectacular.
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Steve Bannon
No, we couldn't be more excited. Tomorrow morning we kick off our coverage at 10am and we literally have like 10 to 15 of the best, smartest analysts, naval strategists, folks that are operators in the Navy Special Forces. A couple of Navy SEALs, Erik Prince and Tage Gill will join us, some operators. And we're going to have just it's going to be spectacular. We're going to I can't be more excited. Ambassador, I don't want to put you on the spot, but you were aide de camp for Richard Nixon, I think, along with President Reagan, considered the two greatest geopolitical thinkers as far as dealing with great powers. And you learned at his hand. Can you put in perspective what President Trump has done over the last seven or eight months culminated in obviously a very difficult situation in Israel and Gaza, but looking like making huge progress. Can you just put it into perspective given your understanding of Richard Nixon's view of the world?
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Ambassador Monica Crowley
Yes, and thank you for that question, Steve. It's a really important one because I think a lot of people miss the historical context of what President Trump is doing because he is doing so much day to day at a breakneck speed that is very hard to keep up with. And those of us in the administration have a hard time keeping up with everything that he is doing and achieving. First of all, I worked with President Nixon during the last years of his life. I was not born when he was elected president. Just want to clarify that. But I did work with him and talk to him about his presidency very often. And I wrote two bestselling books about my experiences with President Nixon and those conversations. And look, he was a true visionary. And by visionary I mean one of the rare American leaders who can see what the world is going to look like 20, 30, 40 years down the road and make American policy in office to anticipate that world. We've had a few visionaries as president. I think Donald Trump is certainly one of them. Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, you go back to FDR even they achieved so much in the first half hundred days of their presidency, the first year of their presidencies. Frankly, throughout their presidencies, historic achievements. In Nixon's case, you had the opening to China, you had detente with the Soviet Union, you had Middle east shuttle diplomacy, you had domestic bringing, trying to bring the economy back in various ways. You had the countercultural revolution that was happening underneath him and of course the Vietnam War which defined his entire presidency. And still he was able to achieve an enormous amount. Donald Trump is that on steroids. Every day is a massive earth shattering policy or initiative that is changing the trajectory of the country back to its foundational principles as well as changing the trajectory of the world because now you have some strong American leadership.
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Steve Bannon
Ambassador, social media where do people get you at America 250 and over as your day job as head of protocol for the United States government? Social media sure, sure.
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Ambassador Monica Crowley
Yes, on X and true social. I am at Monica Crowley and on Instagram. I am at Monica Crowley, underscore.
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Steve Bannon
Ambassador, thank you so much for joining us. Today day on a Saturday to kick off the the weekend of commemoration celebration of Navy 250. Thank you ma'. Am. It's going to be very special. And I think just like we did the army celebration, we'll put in perspective where we are with our uniformed services as an amphibious readiness group is off the coast of Venezuela and the president's team has briefed the Senate and saying, hey, we're at war with the cartels with non state actors in Latin America, Central America and Mexico. We'll leave you here with anchors away. We'll be back in a moment. Fred Flights, former chief of staff of President Trump's National Security Council and Kurt Mills, the great Kurt Mills are joining us next in the war room.
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Sign up for free and be part of the new breaking news this evening. Hamas said today that it agrees to release all Israeli hostages, a major part of the President's peace plan for Gaza. Hamas says it is ready to immediately enter into negotiations to discuss the details of the deal. The president released a statement saying the following, quote, I believe they are ready for lasting peace. Israel must immediately stop the bombing of Gaza so that we can get the hostages out safely and quickly. Next week marks two years since those hostages were taken by Hamas during its attack on Israel that also left more than a thousand dead. Tens of thousands of people have died in Gaza since then.
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News Analyst
Key part of that headline there that you just showed, Steph is pending conditions. This is known in the Middle east as the yes but response. And I think it is an important moment, perhaps an opportunity as I know millions of people around the world would hope that it is an opportunity for peace. But what it is right now is a yes but. And it suggests that Hamas is willing to go into negotiations that might establish the conditions. It's not clear yet from their statement exactly which parts of the 20 point peace plan they agree to, which they don't. They did say they're not ready to release the Hostages under the 72 Hour Time Clock that was initially mentioned as part of President Trump's proposal. But I do think that this response from Hamas combined with President Trump appearing to accept it now puts a lot of pressure back on Israel and its Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. How will they respond?
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Steve Bannon
Okay, we got Fred Flights and Kurt Mill. So Kurt, I'll start with you. The Reporting Times, there's reporting that Witkoff is headed to Egypt to that resort there on the, on the Red Sea and where they're going to negotiate this or work out the terms of actual doing the transition. Israel sending one of their ambassador that's very close to Netanyahu. He's going. So it's the most senior level to do this. Plus President Trump put out Truth Social that ordered Israel to stop bombing. Right. Which is interesting that you got to order them because once again, just like in the, in the Iranian situation, they're going to take, they're going to continue the bombing until you tell them to stop or in Trump's case, order them to stop. Netanyahu put up a post. Correct me if I'm wrong, last night Basically conceding he was going to do this. The Times of Israel and the Jerusalem Post are both reporting that he ain't happy about it, but he feels that the people around him feel that Trump has him boxed in and he's got to do this. However, correct me if I'm wrong, you just inform me. He took it down overnight and it's saying it was taken down by the author. His tweet showing that he was going to comply with this.
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Kurt Mills
Sir, that appears to be the case. I mean, this is from his office. So it's put out like this just be like the White House's account. So it shows this and it says it's down now. I don't think this is a grand surprise because we can see who the Israeli prime Minister's allies, what they've been saying late Friday night, early Saturday morning in Washington about this. They've been complaining about it. They've been saying the President has made a mistake. They said that no deal has been inked. They've been overtly threatening Hamas, which, you know, not nice guys, but they are the people that want to do the deal, and it's very clear they're unhappy. Netanyahu doesn't have to say it. His surrogates in the media and in politics can say it. And Lindsey Graham, the President's good friend and of course, the unchallenged America first senator, he himself was whipping against the deal as soon as it was. It was signed. You saw it in the President's West Wing address, Oval Office address. He looks happy. And he highlighted a number of countries in the region, including Egypt, Qatar, Jordan and on. And he did not single out Israel. So it appears to be a redux of really where we were before the spring, before the summer, which is that the president was willing to work with everybody in the region, but Israel is not getting any special privileges. And we've seen this show before. Even before the President was sworn in, Wyckoff did a deal that created a ceasefire in the war and Israel broke it in March. And so this is another example of the President's instincts towards peace and not being a supplicant of a foreign power.
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Steve Bannon
But look here, here, here's here's the. And this falls directly on the shoulders of Lindsey Graham and Tel Aviv Levin and this crowd of Israel first. They brought this on because their, their promotion of Netanyahu and blind loyalty to Netanyahu and not what was best for Israel. Because you have a situation now, correct me if I'm wrong, you call it what you want. But this. And by the way, Hamas has to go through. Remember, they're just a. They're the franchisee of the Muslim Brotherhood. They always snatch. They have a tendency to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory all the time. Very tough to control. Although presidents united, at least the Gulf emirates and the Arabs more than Lawrence of Arabia in this matter. And also the attack of Netanyahu on Qatar. And Qatar, I think, are terrible guys, right? They're the financiers of the Muslim Brotherhood. But what you have is Gaza is a proto Palestinian state. You're going to have the Gulf Emirates led by Qatar finance this. No Palestinians are leaving. I think the way it reads, you're going to have an Arab security force, right? And obviously Hamas lays down their arms and all that, gives up their military operation. But you have a Palestinian, you're going to have a proto Palestinian state in Gaza in the territory of Israel, number one. Number two, unlike the Israel first crowd was bragging the other day about Judea Samaria. It absolutely forbids any Israel takeover or intrusion with the settlers in Judea Samaria. So that's off the table. And they're talking about adding the Persians or the Iranians to the Abraham Accord. So the Greater Israel Project crashes and burns.
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Fred Fleitz
Why?
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Steve Bannon
Because of the American sponsors of Netanyahu. And I told you this was going to happen, and now it's happened, okay? And they can spin it any way they want to spin it, and they can try to kill it any way they kill it. President Trump's not going to let this be killed. This was a masterstroke, a master stroke. I've never seen anything. This is one of the most impressive turn of events I've ever seen from any president of the United States. It's incredible. This. I almost put in the same level of Nixon in China. Not quite. But of course, President Trump's got a couple of things he's working on in Ukraine and with the ccp. But, Kurt, am I wrong in that? Is that the Israel first sponsors, cheerleaders, promoters led this. And you have to understand, Netanyahu's visit the other day was a humiliation. Let me be specific. It wasn't just his arrival, which was like an Uber driver picking up a fare with no color guard, etc. When Netanyahu came out and lied about what the apology was to Qatar, all I did was apologize for killing the security guy. The White House immediately put out that photograph of Netanyahu reading the document that was. That was given to him by Witkoff and Kushner. The day before with a full apology with the president states holding the phone and giving him the look that only Trump can give you and him like, you know, a, a vassal state reading the apology. And so finally they are acting like a protectorate. And this is what President Trump has gone to. And the Israel first crowd. You have nobody to blame but yourself for this situation.
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Steve Bannon (Promo/Ad Voice)
You have a Palestine, you have a.
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Steve Bannon
Two state solution for all the people supported Israel for so many years, said we can't have a two state solution. You have a two, you can call it anything you want when you've got the Arabs financing it. When you have an Arab security force in Israel on Gaza, it's, that's the proto Palestinian state. And when you have any involvement or any expansion to the west bank or Judea Samaria blocked and you're going to add Iran to the President Trump's openly talking, I want to add them to the Abraham Accords. The Greater Israel Project is over. It crashed and burned because of the American sponsors that cheerleaded on Netanyahu and didn't take the warning from people who said, hey, if you keep doing this, you keep blindly backing this guy and it's all going to crash around you. And it has crashed around you. Now, Kurt Mills, where am I wrong in that assessment, Sir, I don't think.
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Kurt Mills
You'Re wrong on most of any of it. I would say the key reality is if it holds, which is always the boring answer on this, I spoke with at some length with a longtime Israel Palestinian negotiator late last year, late this week, and you know, we were kind of going back and forth on it and you know, Tony Blair was all over this proposal. And so we were both kind of like, I don't know if this is really going to work. And then it sort of occurred to both of us that actually the Palestinians may call the Israelis bluff. Why not accept it? If this is actually a deal on offer, they can take it and it's a pathway for them to potentially keep their lives and their people stay in their land. And sure enough, that's what happened. And the bluff was called. And the Israelis are utterly panicking. And you know, people who don't share the perspective that I have that the Israelis are asking for way too much, that the Israelis are trying to dominate our politics, that the Israelis will never stop if we don't stop them. Frankly, they act like this came out of a void. This came out of nothing. The reality is that this has hijacked and sabotaged President Trump's presidency. This is all we are talking about, and as much as I like to talk about Middle east issues, it's not terribly great for the United States that all we are talking about is a foreign countries problem.
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Steve Bannon
What I said. What I said the national cons. Yeah, what I said the National Conservative Convention. Just like in the Seven Pillars of Wisdom, when the general's schooling T.E. lawrence, he said, hey, the. The Middle east is a sideshow to the main event. The Western front and the Arab revolt is a sideshow to a sideshow. That's exactly where we are today in American geopolitics. The Middle east is a sideshow in the Israel situation is a sideshow to a sideshow.
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Kurt Mills
No doubt.
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Steve Bannon
What galls me is the cheer is the cheerleaders. The cheerleaders who followed Netanyahu because he's doing it for his own political concerns, not for the defense of Israel. And now you are where you are. And don't get me wrong, Hamas are as bad as they get. Right. The Muslim Brotherhood is bad as they get. And Qatars I think worse. But you got to face certain political and geopolitical and financial realities. Okay, short break. Kurt's going to stick around. Fred Fleiss is going to join us and we're also going to expand it. Have a chat about the kinetic war in Ukraine next in the war room. Okay, let's be honest. You never thought it would get this far.
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This Sunday at 10am Eastern, history sets sail.
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I'm going to have all, all folks from the Navy, national security experts, you do not want to miss this.
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President Donald J. Trump arrives in Norfolk, Virginia, aboard a mighty US Aircraft carrier.
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Steve Bannon (Promo/Ad Voice)
Fight, fight, fight, win, win, win.
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Steve Bannon
As America celebrates 250 years of Navy power, brace yourself for missile launches, roaring jets, thunderous firepower and the full force of America's sea strength on display. Hosted by Steve Bannon with live reporting from Jack Posobec and Steve Gruber, Real America's Voice brings you this front row seat to freedom in motion. It's not just coverage, it's a celebration of America's might. RAV presents America 250. Sea Power and Freedom coverage begins this Sunday, 10am Eastern. See you there.
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I want to thank the team over Real America's Voice who's had some great specials recently, the Army 250, of course, the commemoration in celebration of Charlie Kirk's life. And then tomorrow for seven hours, maybe longer if it keeps going, we'll have to see. Interesting thing about tomorrow. It's supposed to end at 5 5pm Eastern Daylight Time tomorrow and at 6pm The President gave Hamas the other day a play me a trademate, they said. He said, hey, the deadline six, you're in or you're out and if you're out, that's fine, but all hell will break loose. Now they're heading towards the resort on the Red Sea in Egypt, which I think is pretty close to Aqaba, which was Lawrence of Arabia's great victory with the beginning of the Arab revolt with Faisal's army and others. Fred Flights, you're an old hand at this. Walk us through. First off the scale, I mean, I think people haven't worked this problem for decades. Don't understand the scale of this solution is pretty breathtaking, is it not, sir?
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Fred Fleitz
It is. And I said in an American greatness piece yesterday that this peace plan put Trump put forward, this 20 point peace plan, really is a masterpiece because he has the Israelis and the Arabs and the Palestinian Authority endorsing it, which is really unprecedented. And he did this because he has language in there that Israel would never have accepted before and that is it contemplates a role for the Palestinian Authority for governing Gaza. And it said there may be a future pathway for a Palestinian state. These are phrased as distant aspirations when the Palestinians de radicalized, but it is unprecedented. Israel would Accept that. And they accepted it grudgingly. But just that language got the Saudis and the Palestinian Authority on board. This leaves Hamas with nowhere to go that they don't want to accept this deal. They don't have any allies. Having said that, Hamas's response is a clever no. They have not agreed to disarm, they have not agreed to destroy their weapons. They have ruled out the idea of an international force governing Gaza. And they're basically putting themselves in a position where they're dangling the idea of releasing the hostage up front. So when the US And Israel reject this deal, and they may have to, they will be blamed. It's a clever rejection. But the beauty of the Trump plan is that the world can move on without Hamas in rebuilding Gaza. It has provisions that areas that have been cleared of terrorists will start to be occupied by this international force where rebuilding will begin. Trump's not going to let Hamas continue to have a terrorist veto. He's not going to let Israel occupy Gaza. But it's a brilliant plan. It certainly qualifies Trump for the Nobel Prize, and it may provide a model for solving other difficult disputes such as Ukraine.
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Steve Bannon
Fred, for the audience and for me, help me out. How does the sponsor here is Qatar? How does Hamas have even flexibility when they're going to be cut off of money? Qatar wants to make this deal, you can tell, or at least on the surface, how can Hamas expect to operate if Qatar and UAE and the Saudis are adamant that we got to bring this thing to a close and we're prepared to put the money and even put up the security guarantee as far as troops go to oversee it, how does Hamas say no to that?
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Fred Fleitz
They really can't. They have nowhere to go. And they're not going to get their funding from Iran either. Hamas will eventually become an irrelevant party. I mean, it's going to be a movement, it's going to be a terrorist movement that'll probably be around for a long time. There's lots of terrorist movements that are still active even though they were set back substantially US Military action. But with the Arab states united in ending this conflict, they think Hamas is an annoyance also. I think we could have a glide path to peace because of Trump's stubborn determination to stop this war.
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Steve Bannon
In the law of unintended consequences. How did Netanyahu and his sponsors here in the United States get into a situation where they're going to have a proto. Because if this deal closes, you have a two state solution, right? You have the Arabs financing the Arabs, securing a Part of a significant part of Israel that is essentially under. You can call it what you want, but it's under Arab control. You've blocked really the Judea Samaria expansion and President Trump, if that all happens, President Trump will work like crazy to add the Iranians into the Abraham Accords. How does a group that was adamantly opposed to all of that end up in a situation where this is the deal? That is Trump's kind of told him, hey, this is the deal. And remember, he didn't have Netanyahu opined to this thing. Netanyahu made some changes about the withdrawal schedule, but he wasn't looking for his opinion. How did they get themselves in that situation?
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Fred Fleitz
First, let me say Iran's not going to be part of the Abraham Accords. That's just not going to happen. And this whole process is going to be overseen by a board of peace that President Trump will be in charge of. This is not going to be run by the Arabs. There'll be an Arab force in Gaza. There also will be European states. I think there's concern and the concern you raise is significant. But let's keep in mind that Israel wants endorsed a two state solution. And if the Palestinians can be de radicalized and that's required under the agreement to have a Palestinian state, Israel might be able to accept it. That was its position a long time ago, certainly before the October 7th attack. So I mean there's a lot of conflicting opinions here. A lot of it is still driven by the aftermath the October 7th attack. But I think we could be close to peace because of what Trump has been putting forward.
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Steve Bannon
Let's go back to the board of peace. I know President Trump's the chairman, but he's got a couple of three day jobs, right? I understand he's the board of peace, but the guy, the guy running it is Tony Blair. Correct me if I'm wrong. Is Tony Blair not on the payroll cutter to like 20 million bucks a year? Sir, Tony Blair is a lackey for UAE for cutter. He, he's been over there sucking down cash. He's essentially an Englishman representing the Arabs. Am I incorrect there?
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Fred Fleitz
Well, you have information on Blair that I don't know. But if Trump is not running it, I imagine he's going to have Secretary Rubio or another prominent senior American national security official be his proxy. It's not going to be run by Tony Blair.
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Steve Bannon
Okay. You know, Hamas is running anybody. What's the Fred flights Saturday morning for October. So before the 6 o' clock deadline tomorrow, where do you put what's the probabilities, what's your percentage of probabilities that Hamas, they're going to negotiate now in Egypt at this resort on the Red Sea? What is, I think Dermer's there representing Netanyahu. Of course, he's Netanyahu's right hand man. Witkoff's there. I know Qatar's going to have people there. I'm sure Hamas had people there. What's the probability this closes along the lines as stated today?
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Fred Fleitz
I mean this process first shows that Trump didn't immediately reject Hamas. Answer. He's giving them an opportunity through diplomacy to show he's willing to deal. Maybe there's some elements of the plan that could be modified to get Hamas to come on board. I don't know what they are, but I think Trump, Trump's a dealmaker, we know that. But I'm afraid because of Hamas hatred of Israel, hatred of Jews, I think the chances of them agreeing to this, something that Israel can agree to is probably 10% or less.
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Steve Bannon
Wow. Kurt Mills, observation thoughts. I know you have a different perspective, but I also ask you for the probability along the general lines that we have today. This deal closes as is.
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Kurt Mills
I think we're going to get a deal this weekend. Base case, I put it over 50%. The President is excited about this and I think the reality is that Hamas, it can't be two things at once. It can't be this all powerful, all menacing terrorist organization and a decimated military force that is a quote, annoyance to the Arabs. The reality is Hamas has a few cards, to use the President's terminology, but basically the moderate wing of Hamas has been in control because the Israelis have assassinated them all in the last two years. And, and I think we are reaching up days from the two year anniversary of October 7th and for the Israelis to basically sabotage yet another deal I think would be really a bridge too far. I think we will have something inked base case. I don't rule out that the Israelis could sabotage it before 6pm on Sunday, but I think it is at this point unlikely because of how publicly happy President Trump is with the results here. I think we will get something and then the open questions will be how does this look? How does this look? How does this look? But again, yes, the president may chair this board and here's where I agree that, you know, he's got a lot of things going on. What is, what are the US Interests in this region? I mean we're talking about a pathway towards demilitarization of the most radical arm of the Palestinian cause. We're talking about something that has broad regional buy in and we're talking about a pathway towards, you know, ending wars in the region and getting the US out militarily. I incline to agree that something like Iran joining the Abrahamic force is unlikely. But that being said, ruling it out, I mean the president's instincts here, he just moves the overseer window. Why not have a conversation like that? Why does it always have to be regime change, regime change, regime change. Iran's a complex country. I'm not really sure we should be picking winners and losers in any country, especially in the Middle East.
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Steve Bannon
Oh, oh, oh. I think President Trump is. People understand when he said the total obliteration and end of the 12 Day War. There's not going to be any regime change, everybody. And that's another Israel first crowd's fantasies. It's not going to happen on Donald Trump's watch. He told you for 12 day. And Netanyahu now coming up and said, well, we never really planned to have total obliteration on the crowd. It's all, everything, everything comes out of his mouth is a bald faced lie. One of the most dangerous individuals in the world. If we need regime change, you ought to use this deal to have regime change in Jerusalem and get some people in there that can deal straight with.
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Steve Bannon (Promo/Ad Voice)
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Steve Bannon
Crowd is as much to blame here as Netanyahu. Fred, let's say even 10% this week make the case for Donald Trump as the recipient and the awardee of the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Fred Fleitz
Sir, I would make that and I'd also mention some things with Kurt that I agree with. Remember Trump's speech in Saudi Arabia that America should not have permanent enemies. He wanted peace through strength and commerce. This was a message both to Iran and to China and to other adversaries that we don't want to be at permanent war with these nations. We don't want to have people who we are constantly planning military action or overthrowing regimes. Trump does not want to do that. I agree that's not going to happen in this administration. But I think the outline of this Gaza peace plan is more than sufficient to qualify Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize. And as I said earlier, regardless of whether Hamas accepts it, there will be peace in Gaza. It will be rebuilt, hopefully with Hamas cooperation. But the world is going to move on regardless of what Hamas decides.
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Steve Bannon
Fred, can you hang on for a second? And Kurt, I want to get to some concerning developments in the kinetic part of the third World War on the Eurasian landmass, yes. In the bloodlands, that would be Ukraine, which I think is 10 times more dangerous than what we're dealing with the Middle East. And Kurt, I will tell you and get your answer on the on the thing. I think that they look at major business and financial relationships with Saudi Arabia, UAE and Qatar. I think it's just been a sea change. I agree with with brother flights. I think when President Trump that meeting they had this year was quite different than the meeting we had in the open opening six months of the first term. I just think it's a total sea change. And Qatar, of which I'm not a fan of and still say that, hey, they're the railhead of the financing of the Muslim Brotherhood is whether you like it or not, they're a major player anyway. Short commercial break we're in a pivot to Ukraine. President Trump this week. I agree with Fred. If anybody ever deserved a Nobel Peace Prize for what this man has taken on and tried to solve is incredible and solved or at least laid the framework for making it plausible to solve. Leave you with Anchors away. We're going to be back in the war in just a moment.
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Fred Fleitz
Steve, I want to first thank you for having me on Today this has been a great discussion. There's talk right now that Zelenskyy wants to acquire US Patriot cruise missiles. They have a range of 1500 miles. The Ukrainian border is about 500 miles from Moscow. This would allow Ukraine to destroy buildings in Moscow, including the Kremlin. There's talk of giving Ukraine other long range missiles and intelligence to strike deeper into Russia. And this leaves us to ask the question, when is the US Crossing the line between providing defensive support to Ukraine to kick the Russians out of Ukraine and going to war with Russia? I think giving Patriots to Ukraine would constitute going to war with Russia and will result in Russia taking appropriate responses, possibly firing missiles into NATO countries. I don't think anyone's thinking this through. The implications of giving such a major military capability to the Ukrainian army. And look, I like Ukraine. I want Ukraine to win. They're not going to win back most of their territory. I think we may be able to get an armistice if Trump continues to press forward with top economic and energy sanctions. But letting Ukraine escalate the war greatly escalate the war like this I think will have far reaching consequences that could start a much larger regional war.
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Steve Bannon
Okay, walk me through. As President Trump would say, hey Fred, I hear you, but I've been over backwards. I went to Alaska, I've tried to do everything possible to get Putin on board here. And for whatever reason, his relationship with the Chinese Communist Party, the fact that Germany and Western Europe still buys only gas from him, they don't seem to want to come to a situation where we can have a discussion about maybe going back to the original. No, they keep the Donbask in the eastern Russian speaking regions in Crimea, but he's not even prepared to have that discussion. It appears President Trump's bent over backwards. So what would your President Trump is saying, hey, I've tried everything. I need some piece of. Look, I agree with you 100%, but I think the counter argument, particularly people around Trump are saying you've done everything. You need another part of leverage. He's insulted them. A true social. The army's nothing. This should have been done in three weeks. You're not a superpower. Isn't this looked at as a point of leverage for the president to basically warn we're going to give Tomahawks and Patriot missiles to Ukraine and potential targeting information which I agree with you would make us a combatant. Right. I happen to think we're a combatant now because what's happened out of Wiesbaden where essentially the CIA and other guys are running this war. And that's how you had the deep strike into, into with the drones, into Russia. But what would you tell the president? He's going to say, fred, I hear you, but I can't get this guy to the table.
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Fred Fleitz
Steve, you and I know that God created us with free will and we can use that free will to make good decisions or bad decisions to pursue good or evil. Trump really did go out of his way to create off ramps and an opportunity for Putin to do the right thing. He's decided to do the wrong thing because his fanatical views about NATO and Ukrainian nationality and all kinds of nonsense we've heard spouted. But the next step is to put pain on Putin to bring him to the negotiating table to get past this unreasonable line of thinking. That's why I think crippling economic sanctions and energy sanctions, that's what we have to do, not escalate the war. Now, Trump's not going to give Patriots and Tomahawk missiles to Putin. He's too smart for that. And I do think he's going to give additional military support to Ukraine, but there's going to be a limit. Trump doesn't want to escalate to the point where we're looking at a regional war or a world war. But Trump also wants Europe to play its part. Europe bought $1.8 billion in energy from Russia last year and they're not going to stop until 2027. Europe has to help and has to initiate secondary sanctions as we do so they don't swoop in and take advantage of of economic opportunities when we're sanctioning nations to end the war in Ukraine. Europe has to be part of this. They stop lecturing Trump about being too close to Putin and doing serious things to stop the war.
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Steve Bannon
Fred, what's your social media? Where do people get your writings? American greatness, all of it.
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Fred Fleitz
You can go to X or to different other accounts at Fred Flights and our website is america first policy.com.
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Steve Bannon
Perfect. Thank you sir. Appreciate you taking Saturday and joining us. We're going to pose upon Kurt Mills to stick around for a few minutes. Also have Mark Kakorian cis and updates on the left's meltdown on Project 2025. And Russ vote in the team that are running this government shutdown. All next in the war room.
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