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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's a Saturday for October year overlord 2025. I've asked Kurt Mills and Kurt, I'm going to intrude upon you to stick. And we're going to talk about Ukraine. Then we'll Mark Kirkorian and Mark's going to give us an update on a really a stunning decision yesterday, the Supreme Court about Venezuela. And then when we go through that, I want you to stick around because I do want to talk about Venezuela. And it looks like approaching American kinetic activity there, including seizing seaports and transportation nodes by the United States military. We'll get into that in a second. I think it's very important. Fred Flights is looked at as kind of the, he was chief of staff under President Trump's first term for the National Security Council. He's looked at that traditional bedrock of Republican thinking about national security. And I think it shows you that we're having a shift, a fundamental, serious shift in the way we think about geopolitics now. I am much more aggressive and I would almost say interventionist when it comes against the Chinese Communist Party. I've been accused of by the great Darren Beatty, my close friend and colleague, and Kurt Mills and other people I'm very close to of finding a CCP member under every bed. But there's a shift in the shift. There's a geopolitical and national security thought process that's shifting radically. And you can see it in Fred in the situation in the Ukraine. So I want to get you in here, Kurt, and to see that, quite frankly, you two guys are not that far apart really on the, on the Middle east, although I think a lot of the old hands are like Fred, having got a lot of scars from the Middle east over the last 20 or 30 years and don't like Hamas and I keep saying Hamas has a history, as these terrorist organizations do, of being able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. And Fred puts it at 10%, you put it at 50%. I think the president would put it higher. Right. I think he feels Witkoff going there, they'll hammer out some deal and he'll just, he'll do his force of will. It's one of the reasons, I think, more than any person in living memory, he deserves, you know, be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize because he is a man of peace. What is it? This will make it seven or eight wars, something extraordinary. But at the same time, and I think President Trump, he says it publicly, he says, look, I'm very frustrated about Ukraine. I thought I could do it easier, I thought I could do it quicker. I thought I had a better relationship with Putin. He's, he's. He talks about this all the time. And so Fred's nailed something you and I have talked about for a couple of years here in this Ukraine situation. America, like we were in Israel in the, in the 12 Day War. We were a combatant in that war. I kept telling people, when you send Aegis cruisers there and you start doing defense target acquisition, and when you've got, you're sending Thaad missiles over on the defensive side, you're a combatant. When you go do the expeditionary force hit by our bombers, on the total obliteration. But at the same time, folks, you got 1970s technology and tomahawk missiles coming out of fast attack submarines in the North Arabian Sea, a place as a young naval officer, I was in, like, late 1979, early 1980. Okay, you're back to being a combatant in the war. And right now, Kurt, what happened in V. Spaden, and people understand the CIA and military intelligence be running a big deal out of Germany with the Brits and with others. Fred's right. When you start having loose talk and Zelensky's making comments about I need Tomahawks, I need patriots, and oh, by the way, President Trump, I think he said, not approved, but basically signed off on, was acknowledged, knew in advance of the deep strike into Russia, what, three or four months ago with the drones, something that Curtis LeMay couldn't even fantasize about. We are getting inexorably sucked into the kinetic part of the Third World War. And let me just remind everybody, because nobody talks about this enough. If you go from September 1st of 1939, the invasion of Poland to June 21st of 1941, the Wehrmacht's invasion of Russia, With Operation Barbarossa, if you take that time frame and you look at the killing that really initiated the European war, part of the Second World War, it pales in comparison to the casualties. President Trump said that they finally gave you the number. I think it's 1.8 million from intelligence sources. And the President said, hey, I'm giving you inside baseball, 1.8 million Ukrainians dead or wounded and over a million Russians, I think dead. So you're talking a scale of 2 and a half, 3 over million casualties just in Ukraine right now. And one of the reasons you don't see, like, MSNBC putting up footage every night like they did in the first days of the war, this is like World War I's Western Front. There's been 650,000 Ukrainian casualties this year. And tell me how much MSNBC or CNN has shown you. Like, nothing because it's too brutal. So, Kurt, I'm very concerned that with President Trump focused on all this other stuff we are getting sucked into, and by the way, the hawks in the arms industry and the Pentagon and of course, the. That the insane Lindsey Grahams and these people want us. They want us. They want us in a basic kinetic war with Russia right now. So what's your, what's your concern or observations about this Ukraine situation, sir?
