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Steve Bannon
I think the single biggest thing they ought to try to push through and they won't even touch. They won't even touch. They won't debate it. They don't want to debate it. Here's why. The Chamber of Commerce wing of the Republican Party loves illegal immigration and they love the HB1 vis. They love all the scams.
Peter Navarro
Right?
Steve Bannon
So the donor class, and this is why, just. I know we're on the show for a second. President Trump right now is under tremendous pressure. The reason Russ Vote has not pulled the trigger on the deconstruction of the administrative state during the, during the Schumer shutdown is President Trump's under enormous pressure from donors and RINO senators saying, oh, we can't do this. It's going to hurt gdp. You can't let federal employees go. He's under tremendous pressure not to either put in a Title 10 escalatory ladder on the insurrection in these various cities and states or to invoke the Insurrection act of 1807. The pressure around President Trump, the pressure on him right now, not. Not to get a peace deal in Gaza. People, I don't think, realize the pressure on him every day not to follow his natural instincts in the MAGA plan is enormous. And that's why I admire him so much. He's fight. He's fighting the good fight every day. Plus, he's fighting the guys supposedly on his side. This is why, mark my words, they all hate Trump up there, all the establishment, they're just waiting him. They're waiting for him to. To go. And this is why, Eric, now more than ever, I am down hard for Trump. 2028. We can't, we cannot lose this guy. It's once in a lifetime. Once in a lifetime. This is why I admire you so much, Steve Ban. You are the smartest man in the room. Any room you walk into.
Peter Navarro
Ban in your show.
Steve Bannon
Appreciate we should do this more often, by the way. We'll see you tomorrow. We'll see you tomorrow, my friend. Let's try to do it if I want to do it every day, but as you know, I'm slapping the show together with about five minutes to go anyway. Eric, we love you. Thank you for keeping the audience. You too, brother. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Okay, we got the one and only. We got to talk about a warrior. We got Dr. Navarro on deck. We got a cold open for Dr. Navarro. Let's let it rip.
Republican Senator (possibly Chuck Grassley or similar)
Madam Attorney General, let me ask you this question. Were you consulted by the White House before they deployed National Guard troops? To cities in the United States.
Pam Bondi
I am not going to discuss any internal conversations with the White House.
Republican Senator (possibly Chuck Grassley or similar)
You won't even say whether you talk to the White House about this.
Pam Bondi
I am not going to discuss any internal conversations with the White House with you. Chair. Ranking member.
Republican Senator (possibly Chuck Grassley or similar)
I noticed that. What's the secret? Why do you want to keep this secret? The American people don't know the rationale behind the deployment of National Guard troops in my state. The word is, and I think it's been confirmed by the White House, they are going to transfer Texas National Guard units to the state of Illinois. What's the rationale for that?
Pam Bondi
Yeah, Chairman. As you shut down the government. You voted to shut down the government, and you're sitting here, Our law enforcement officers aren't being paid. They're out there working to protect you. I wish. You love Chicago as much as you hate President Trump. And currently the National Guard are on the way to Chicago. If you're not going to protect your citizens, President Trump will been on this.
Republican Senator (possibly Chuck Grassley or similar)
Committee for more than 20 years. That's the kind of testimony you expect from this administration. A simple question as to whether or not that a legal rationale for deploying National Guard troops becomes grounds for personal attack.
Senator Padilla
I do have a question. In the merger that took place, which merger You've listed involving American Express gbt. I understand that Brian Ballard, longtime backer and head of the law firm where you worked, was instrumental in lobbying the Justice Department to drop that lawsuit. It was dismissed, so it's not subject to a court review. What conversation did you have with Mr. Ballard?
Pam Bondi
Senator Blumenthal, I cannot believe that you would accuse me of impropriety or. When you lied about your military service.
Steve Bannon
I am.
Pam Bondi
Not elected a U.S. senator. You lied. How dare you. I'm a career prosecutor. Don't you ever challenge my integrity. I have abided by every ethics standard. Do not question my ability to be fair and impartial as Attorney general and anything my former firm. Valard Partner.
Steve Bannon
Thank you.
Senator Padilla
It was because she had the audacity to remind Border Patrol Chief Gregory Bovino that he was obligated to follow a court order and the Constitution in California. According to reports, she was fired less than six hours after she told Bovino he couldn't arrest people without probable cause. Six hours. So my first question, Attorney General Bondi, is a simple yes, no question. Do you believe that government officials like Gregory Bovino are obligated to follow applicable court orders whether they agree with them or not? Yes or no.
Pam Bondi
First, Senator Padilla, you have gone on for over five minutes. And I wish that you loved your state of California as much as you hate President Trump. We'd be in really good shape then, because violent crime in California is currently 35% higher than. Than the national average. Property crime In California is 18% higher than the national average. That should be something that we should be talking about and working together on. Yet we're not. And, no, this is important. You're talking about all these. All of my agencies. And I want. I want to let you know what DEA has been doing, and they are working hand in hand.
Senator Padilla
I appreciate that.
Pam Bondi
No, you can't go on for five minutes and criticize my agents who are out working without pay right now because you voted to shut down the government. They're out there working without pay.
Senator Padilla
Mr. Chairman, I asked a simple yes.
Senator Schiff
Or no question, but in case I just didn't hear you, what is the answer? Did he take the money?
Pam Bondi
Senator Schiff, that happened prior to my confirmation. I understand, but do you know I said that.
Senator Schiff
Do you know sitting here.
Pam Bondi
All I know is that Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche and FBI Director Patel said there was no case. And Caroline Lovett is one of the most trustworthy human beings I know.
Senator Schiff
So was she.
Pam Bondi
If you worked for me, you would have been fired because you were censured by Congress for lying.
Senator Schiff
We can stipulate to. You can stipulate to all your personal attacks on the Democratic members of the committee.
Pam Bondi
Personal attacks. You've been attacking my FBI director. You've been attacking my office. You've been attacking the borders.
Senator Schiff
Interested in. Is the answer to these oversight questions. So you.
Peter Navarro
You were asked.
Senator Schiff
You were asked by my colleague.
Pam Bondi
You were asked by my colleague, Good people.
Senator Schiff
You were asked by my colleague from Vermont whether you will support providing a video or audio tape, if it exists, of Mister. Mr. Homan taking 50,000 in bribe money from the FBI. Will you support a request by this committee to provide that taper tapes to the committee? Yes or no?
Pam Bondi
Senator Schiff, you can talk to Director Patel about that.
Senator Schiff
Well, I'm talking to you about it.
Peter Navarro
You're.
Senator Schiff
You're the. You're the Attorney General. This will be your decision. Will you support.
Pam Bondi
Tell me, what is my decision, what is not my decision?
Senator Schiff
And you don't have to try to.
Pam Bondi
You think you got a gotcha with Tom Holm in our.
Philip Patrick
Excuse me.
Pam Bondi
He's been out there, Excuse me, Fighting for our country since Donald Trump took office.
Senator Schiff
I'm trying to ask you a question.
Philip Patrick
Right.
Senator Schiff
Regular order, please. And you don't have to defer to the FBI director to pass the buck. So I'm asking you, will you support a request so that the committee, or indeed I believe the American people should be able to see that video or audio tape? Will you support that request?
Pam Bondi
Will you apologize to Donald Trump?
Steve Bannon
Trying to.
Senator Schiff
I guess the answer is you won't support the request.
Pam Bondi
You now know that Joe Biden tried to cover up Biden's involvement with you.
Steve Bannon
Let me.
Senator Hawley
I do want to go back to Homan. You know there's a tape, right? With Mr. Homan. I mean, first of all, is there a tape that has audio and video of the transfer of the 50,000?
Pam Bondi
You would have to talk to Director Patel about that.
Senator Hawley
No, I'm. I'm talking to you.
Pam Bondi
I don't know the answer, Senator.
Senator Hawley
You do know the answer.
Pam Bondi
Don't call me a liar.
Senator Hawley
I didn't call you a liar.
Pam Bondi
You just said, I know the answer. I said, I don't know the answer. You have to talk to. Okay, Director Patel, what I said is that investigation.
Peter Navarro
Let me put it in another way.
Senator Hawley
If you don't know, why don't you know whether there was a tape and video?
Pam Bondi
Senator, I believe that was resolved prior to my confirmation as Attorney General.
Senator Hawley
Do you think that it is of public interest for the people to know what happened to the 50 grand that the FBI turned over to Homan?
Pam Bondi
Did you hear what I just said? That was resolved prior to my confirmation as Attorney General. That. That's why I said I would not go first.
Senator Hawley
It's not resolved. There's $50,000. Homan has it or somebody has it. Do you have no interest in knowing where it is?
Pam Bondi
You're not going to sit here and slander Tom Homan. The FBI and Deputy Director Blanch said there was nothing.
Senator Hawley
I'm not slamming Tom Homan. He got to 50.
Pam Bondi
Tom Homan is doing. How do you know that? Tom Homan is doing a great job. Job as our borders are keeping your border state safe. You're a border state.
Steve Bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies. Because we're going medieval on these people. I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything.
Peter Navarro
In the world to stop that, but.
Steve Bannon
You'Re not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go.
Peter Navarro
To share the big lie?
Steve Bannon
MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen k. Ban. Tuesday the 7th of October in the year of our Lord 2025 and the 6 o' clock hour. I'm gonna play the replay some of the events from our live broadcast two years ago on this day. And now I want to bring in Dr. Peter Navarro. Dr. Navarro is at the White House today. Dr. Navarro, we played the Democrats just going after Pam Bondi for hours. They never asked one question about what Senator Grassley put forward, which was the wiretapping of seven United States senators. What say you about that? We had Hawley and Tuberville and Banks on today and they were absolutely outraged. Senator Hawley called for a special prosecutor. This is pretty blockbuster news. But the Democrats, all they went after Pam Bondi, was to try to destroy President Trump's policies about mass deportations. And particularly focus on Tom Holman who's doing a magnificent job as the, as the border czar. Your thoughts, sir?
Peter Navarro
Steve, I am at the White House, but this morning I was at that hearing. I showed up a little before nine because Chuck Grassley once again revealed a big reveal about my own case of weaponization against me. And it was a beautiful thing to behold. Steve, the first chapter of the book that you wrote the forward to I went to prison so you won't have to, basically begins with that arrest at Reagan airport, but by what I thought was five armed FBI agents. But after what they released today, I got to go back and revise that. They dropped the surveillance logs, number one. And they also dropped the document that shows the authorization. And what's so fascinating about these two new documents, first of all, they said right in there that I was not dangerous or armed. Ergo, they had no reason to take me in an armed takedown. They could have just called me up. And B, they had a dozen FBI agents. This thing is like, Steve, it's like, it's like a spy noble. It's like suspect leaves residence at 9:02 with fiance, proceeds to car and then it's go advances and they say when I get out and there's like stalking me. There's like 12 FBI agents who are not, not, not going after terrorists or drug cartels. They're after little old me. And it's just like, like crazy stuff like, like eavesdropping on Republican senators. It's like taking me down in an armed arrest. And I'll tell you, I almost got like like contact Schles because I was sitting too close to Adam Schiff and the slime that drips off this guy. And I fear for my Republicans, Steve, when I listen to these guys on the left side of the dais, man, these, all these Democrats, it's like they're attacking us. They're attacking us, Steve, for weaponizing government, the judiciary, the Attorney General, after you and I both went to prison because these sons of bitches weaponized the government and they're accusing us of that now. Are you freaking kidding me? So when you ask me what I think about all this, I got a lot of thoughts about all this. But the bottom line is I went to prison so you won't have to. That's a wake up call. And these documents from Grassley just keep rolling out. The best is yet to come. There's going to be another drop of these things which. Which is basically going to curl your hair, Stephen. That's a hard thing to do with you.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on. We're gonna hold you through another Peter, I might add. It was a misdemeanor. It's a misdemeanor. It's a couple of steps up from a parking ticket or jaywalking. Short break. Dr. Peter Navarro, live from the White House. Next. Let me be blunt. Gold is up around 40% this year. That's not speculation. That is reality. And if a portion of your savings isn't diversified into gold, you're missing the boat. Here's the facts. Inflation is still too high. The US dollar is still too weak. The government debt is insurmountable. This is why central banks are flocking to gold. They're the ones driving prices up to record highs. But it's not too late to buy gold from Birch Gold Group and get in the door. Now. Birch Gold will help you convert an existing IRA or 401k into a tax sheltered IRA. In gold, you don't pay a dime out of pocket. Just text Bannon B A N N O N to 989-898 and claim your free info kit. There's no obligation, just useful information. The best indicator of the future is the past. And gold has historically been a safe haven for millennia. What else can you say to that? Text Bannon 989-898 right now to claim your free info kit on gold. That's Bannon to 989-898. Protect your future today with Birchgold. Kill America's voice Family.
Peter Navarro
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Pam Bondi
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Pam Bondi
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Steve Bannon
Okay. Dr. Navarro joins us live from the White House. So, Dr. Navarro, by the way, it's unusual for the President let you have any time off, given the deals you're working on, to go over there. That's how big it is. Senator Josh Hawley said today he's demanding a special prosecutor for the whole mess, not just the wiretap of that. But he said everything happened to you. He's tired of it. He says there's so much going on here. We need one, one special prosecutor, a huge team. And the special prosecutor should have his own criminal grand jury. I want people to understand tomorrow, I think they've moved it up to tomorrow, right when. When Comey goes to be arraigned. They're not going to perp walk or anything like that. They went out to humiliate you. His is for multiple felonies. Sir, you are for a misdemeanor. They tried to break you, Peter. They thought they could break you and get you to roll on Trump. They thought they could break you and have you turn on the MAGA movement. Sir, the floor is yours.
Peter Navarro
Yeah. How's that working out? Yeah. Yeah. Let's think about this. It's like misdemeanor for me. With a circus leg irons arrest put in the cell where John Hinckley was after he shot Reagan. And they made a point of telling me about that, all that nice little treatment, gave CNN the scoop and all of that. And now these documents that were revealed today by Senator Chuck Grassley. Thanks again to Senator Grassley for getting this stuff out. Thanks to the whistleblowers show that not only did they have five armed FBI agents in a gangway, they had like a dozen of these guys tracking my movements. And you know what? That's people that should have been tracking terrorists and drug cartels and otherwise protecting the American people. And meanwhile, Steve, why is James Comey, who's very well trained in guns, right, probably has a bunch of them in his basement. Why is he allowed to self surrender and not be. I don't know. Circus arrested somewhere on his way to the beach so he can write 18747 like he did. So look, this is. Here's the big picture here, Steve. What Senator Grassley is doing is he's getting more and more documents out of the Department of Justice bureaucracy faster than we otherwise would. And it's showing. What you and I have been talking about and experienced is a Democrat lawfare conspiracy to go after just about everybody in the Republican Party who's associate of Donald John Trump and the president himself. I mean, yesterday's revelations, they're spying on Republican senators. What? Today's revelations, they took Navarro down. But his fiance.
Steve Bannon
But Peter. But Peter, Hang on, hang on. No, no, no, no. But. But hang on. The book is amazing. You don't have to go to prison. He went to prison. Or I went to prison. So you don't have to. You gotta get books.
Peter Navarro
Steve, I gotta teach you how to say that title. I know it's a lot of words.
Steve Bannon
Hold it. But you said something. Once again. Once again. Once again, Dr. Navarro. Once again. You buried. You buried the lead. Yeah, we don't. Why are we. Johnson comes to the microphone yesterday and says, we want to thank a whistleblower that came up and gave us this. Dr. Navarros, all your documents are magnificence because of whistleblowers. We control the Department of Justice. We control the FBI. The point is from Bongino and Cash. They're being hidden from. They're being hidden from them. We need us. I need every name that approved your arrest. I need every agent that was there and why they didn't quit, why they went. They knew what they were doing was wrong. We need the name of every agent. We need the name of everybody approved it. It's time to get beyond whistleblowers. We can't depend upon whistleblowers. We control. We control doj. We control FBI. Why is that not all there? Why are we waiting? Grassley's doing great. That's because whistleblowers feel confident to come to him. Go ahead.
Peter Navarro
Yeah, well, sort of. Because the first thing that happened today that Grassley said correctly was the Democrats been holding up all the appointments of all the people that we want to put in the Department of Justice. And Pam Bondi mentioned that in her opening remarks. And you know, Steve, like, what are the worst bureaucracies we have? You know, where you have, like, it's like a pyramid at the top. You have a few political appointees and all they do is struggle with their careers. Below Them in the pyramid. And justice has got more. Look, the guy in my case here. My case, my case is on appeal, as yours is. The guy who was in charge of putting paper in on mine to the court was a guy who donated $20,000 to Biden and Democrats, and his career totally died in the Democrat wool. And he slips through. Still working there because they don't have enough personnel. But to your point, special prosecutor, we need somebody to take control this whole process because time's running out. Steve, you and I, if we learned anything during the first term. Yeah, a little more than 1500 days. And if you lose in the midterms, the House, then you got half that. So we need to go with the greatest sense of urgency. The War Room has that. The posse has that. Grassley has it. I have it. I'm pushing. But we've got to expose this lawfare and weaponize government. And your case and mine, Steve, they're like the poster men of the whole thing. I mean, think about that. I'm here at the White House, senior White House advisor. All I did was defend the Constitution, and those bastards put me in prison. How does that happen? But now we're learning. Like, they send a dozen FBI agents to surveil me from my house, which is literally across the street from the FBI, where they could have taken me then or simply called me on the phone. I think people need to understand just how crazy that stuff is. But it was a point. The process is the warfare.
Steve Bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on. Full stop. I want to talk about Bonnie. One of the finest women I've ever met, and not simply for the case she puts up with your madness. She's just a great individual. Talk about Bonnie, a innocent civilian here. What they did to her and what they did. This whole surveillance thing. Talk about your fiance, Bonnie.
Peter Navarro
Yeah, there's my girl right there. And we're on the stage of the Republican National Committee. And here's the thing people don't understand, Steve, is when they do this kind of lawfare to me or Jeff Clark or John Eastman or you or the President, they do it to our families. And Bonnie stood by me through the whole thing. She came and visited me every weekend, Saturday and Sunday. That was no ball of wax. I mean, walking into a crowded area with a bunch of prisoners and their families, I mean, you know, it's, like, pretty interesting. And she stuck with me. And it's a shame. And what bothered me most about that circus arrest was not what they did to me. Because, like, you and I. Look, we're soldiers, right? We take what they give out. But when they perp walked her, I mean, that's unforgivable. Hold it.
Steve Bannon
Audience, audience, audience.
Peter Navarro
Hang on, hang on. Son of a bitch.
Steve Bannon
Audience, Stop. Full stop. They went after Melania down in Mar a Lago. They went after President Trump's young son. They perp walked your fiance, who's totally innocent. Everything had nothing to do with. They did it to humiliate her, to humiliate you. And by the way, this is a Reagan National Airport, not just one of the busiest airports in the world, but all these prominent people came through. These people are cruel. They're horrible. We must break them. We need to break these people. I'm tired of whistleblowers. I'm tired of playing patty cake. I'm tired of having to sit here and show. They're attacking Pam Bondi ruthlessly. And Homan. They're trying to go after Homan ruthlessly. Screw them. We need to go on offense. If we don't go on, we're like a bunch of patsies. Okay? It's time to turn the, the guns proverbially on them and let's let it rip. We're playing, we're playing footsie with these guys. We're burning daylight and we got to go hard. Navarro.
Peter Navarro
If we don't hold them accountable, they will do it again. It's as simple as that. I mean, that's why I wrote the book. I went to prison so you won't have to. I said on the night, on stage, it's like it's a wake up call. If it's a wake up call, if they can do it to me or you or the president or Eastman or Giuliani or Clark or everybody I served within that first term, they can certainly do it. But hang on to everybody else. I'm telling you, sitting there, shift, man, that that was not a good experience. That guy is just a congenital liar and he's dangerous.
Steve Bannon
I, I had to sit with that guy for 20 hours in, in the skiff in the bottom of the Capitol where he gave me a proctology exam. Yeah, okay. Trying to get, trying to tear, turn Trump in the first term. Here's my point. He's sitting in the US Senate ripping on Pam Bondi. You gave that speech at the Republican convention in July of 2024. We won in a sweeping landslide. We're in October. Eric Trump's coming out with a book. They're attacking the Trump family and they're going to do it all over again. Unless we go scorched earth today. Peter Navarro. Where they get the book, how they get to you on social media. Sir, you get me worked up.
Peter Navarro
Well, it's. I went to prison so you won't have to go to Amazon Posse. When you go there, look at the rank and then buy the book and then look at it again in about four hours and you'll know how the war room supports. I went to prison so you won't have to. You can go to substack. Peternovar.substack.com there's always good stuff. And by the way, Steve, I got my old website, peternavar.com back in play. And that gives you everything. Tell you where the sub stack and X and getter and True social and all that stuff. But Steve, keep doing what you're doing, brother, because you're absolutely right. We. We gotta hold them accountable. Time for talking and writing is over. Time for acting is now.
Steve Bannon
By the way, we want to thank Senator Grassley and his great staff. They're doing, they're. They're working like Trojans on this. Peter, thank you so much, brother. Thank you. Thank you for being the way you are.
Peter Navarro
All right, my brother.
Steve Bannon
Bonnie. Bonnie could be any person out there. They handcuffed her, they tried to humiliate her, they tried to break her. Thank God she's made a sterner stuff. It's time to go on offense. That's all they understand is smash mouth. Short break. We're gonna talk about gold.
Peter Navarro
It's pretty good topic.
Steve Bannon
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Jack Posobiec
Well, Steve, we are over here at the Army Navy Country Club over. Not too far stone's throw away from the Pentagon itself. We're out here today because we are celebrating an auspicious occasion. Today is the promotion ceremony of one Sean Spicer from commander to captain. He's actually going to be pinning on, pinning on the full crow today. You can see Sean, he's working the crowd kind of behind me here, and he's gonna be putting on 06, believe it or not, in just a couple of minutes here. So we're holding the reception. Beautiful weather here on the banks of the Potomac. We've got Tanya Tay, we've got Christina Wong. Actually, let's see if I can grab them real quick. We got Tanya Tay and Christina Wong. Wait, say hi to Steve Bannon real quick.
Steve Bannon
Hi, Steve.
Jack Posobiec
Hey, we've got everyone.
Steve Bannon
One of the best reporters out there.
Jack Posobiec
Yeah, he says you're one of the best out there. I've got the earpiece in, so I don't know if he can hear you, but, but, Steve, it's, it's, it's, you know, they've, they, we have, they have let the barbarians inside the gate here at the Army Navy Club tonight. We are, we are all here to represent and we're going to have a very special guest here for the pinning ceremony itself in just a couple of very shortly.
Steve Bannon
Yeah, I think maybe I hear the Secretary of Defense. Listen, say hi to Sean. This is a big day when you make 06. Been one of the great guys.
Philip Patrick
Yep.
Steve Bannon
War Secretary, Secretary Ward. That's right.
Jack Posobiec
Let me.
Steve Bannon
And by the way, coming off the tuner.
Jack Posobiec
Yeah, Cab Spicer. Cab Spicer. Say hi to, Say hi to Steve Bannon.
Pam Bondi
Oh, my gosh.
Steve Bannon
Hey, Captain.
Jack Posobiec
He's, he says, he says it's unsad that you're not here, Steve. He says it's unsat. And I, I, I know, See, the CNO back here is going to Write you up and we might have to call. We have to call. What was it? Lieutenant Bannon back to. Back to active duty. May have to do it back, back. There's enough people here, enough juice in the room.
Steve Bannon
Say hi to everybody there and sorry, can't be there.
Jack Posobiec
We'll talk about standards. He says hi to everyone.
Steve Bannon
Very shot. Very well deserved. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you have a great time. Jack Bosobic live tomorrow, I believe not just Comey's gonna get a rain, but another big announcement. I think we're gonna hear announcement about Marine Corps 250. And I can tell you from the Real America Voice team and from the war room, we're gonna be there for the entire thing. So a bunch of big announcements today. Sorry, can't be that back there for Sean Spicer's promotion ceremony. But as you can see, we've got a pretty good representation there. Philip Patrick, you came on the show a couple weeks ago and you talked about. Because I want to make sure everybody understands two things. Number one, it's not just the daily spot price of gold. Right. I know a lot of people are focused on that, particularly now, what, almost a 50 run up, I think in the last 12 months. And in this huge run up since we started working with birch gold four years ago, I think it was 1100 bucks. It's the process and why gold is a hedge against times of financial turbulence, both geopolitically and financially. Goldman Sachs, I think came out today and took their price target for gold for next year, I think from 42 or 4300 to 4900. But I want people to understand there's something that is structurally happening in the world today around this de dollarization movement that you pinpointed when you went in July to the Rio reset down in Rio de Janeiro. And I think nailed it better than anybody. Walk us through what you said the central banks are doing now and the money center banks about fiat currencies, particularly the euro, and then what they're doing to take their asset base and actually increase their holdings in gold. Sir.
Philip Patrick
Yeah, this has been a fairly consistent trend. It started since 2020 22. Central banks have been, it appears, very committed to de dollarization. They've been dumping dollars for the last three and a half years. $ holdings by central banks now are at 30 year lows and gold has been the asset of choice. They've set record central banks for the last three and a half years. By the way, the biggest six month period ever in history for central banks has been the first two quarters of this year, 25. So the pace is escalating. And what we're starting to see is gold is becoming slowly the reserve asset of choice. It overtook the euro last year. It now constitutes 20% of global reserve assets, the euro only 16%. It's now a larger share of US government. Of global reserve.
Steve Bannon
Sorry.
Philip Patrick
Than US government debt. And I think what we are starting to see is a structural share shift back to how things used to be, where gold was a much larger share of global reserve. But I think the really interesting thing about this moment is that gold isn't being driven by fear anymore. It is being driven by acceptance. For the first time in decades, we're seeing mainstream money managers, pensions, institutions, endowments, following the lead of central banks. And I think what we're seeing is an admission that paper promises alone and don't cut it. Gold now, more broadly outside of central banks is being treated like essential insurance, not speculation. And I think we need to be clear. What we're seeing today is not a rally in the traditional sense. A rally implies emotion. It's traders chasing momentum. What we're seeing today, I think, is a repricing of reality. For many years, the markets treated government debt and central bank policy as if it was risk free. And I think we're seeing now globally that our illusion is breaking down.
Steve Bannon
I want to go back to this fear versus acceptance. Fear has traditionally been, and this is why, a hedge against geopolitical risk, against, against financial turbulence as a, as a risk mitigating tool. Now you're actually saying we're going back to maybe even this concept in the 19th century where it's looked at as something central, a central asset, that is every bit as fundamental as fiat currency. Is that the point you're trying to make?
Philip Patrick
It's absolutely that. Look, when you've got record sovereign debt, negative real yields on government debt, central banks hoarding gold. I think the market is simply adjusting to what's always been true, and that is that tangible assets deserve a bigger share of portfolios and central bank reserves. When the smartest money in the room starts buying the same asset that the founding fathers used as the definition of money itself. That is not a trade. That is a confession. Right, A confession that collectively we've made a big mistake. And I fear collectively we're gonna, we're gonna pay the price. But it's what we're seeing.
Steve Bannon
That line's so good, I'm stealing it. Hang on. Also, talk about the law of unintended consequences in that if you look at this Ukraine situation. And you and I on here three years ago talking about the economic warfare part of this and how the globalists and the Atlanticists want to, want to come up on Russia big time. The eu, the Eurodollar as a potential global currency is essentially being eviscerated. For the simple fact is that the EU guys led the charge to essentially steal the assets of the Russian people first to use it to collateralize loans which they would take the interest and pay for the arms to attack the Russian army. But then this whole concept of the $350 billion, which most of it happens to be in European banks in Euro dollars, right. In EU's, that in doing that they've got everybody in the world saying, well, hey, maybe I get out of that. And this is one of the reasons the central banks are buying more gold than ever. It's the law of unintended consequences. They're trying to press the economic war and to weaponize the currency, the fiat currency actually drove kind of the logic of people saying, hey, maybe I ought to get out of that and maybe I ought to get into physical gold, sir.
Philip Patrick
Yeah, I mean it's so clear. We talk about when central banks started setting records for gold buying and it was immediately after we seized Russia's assets in 22. We have, and I mentioned this last time, but we have been disincentivizing the world to hold the dollar. Devaluation is the first one way. Right. It was the dollar's stability relative to other currencies for decades that cemented opposition and then weaponization. Listen, I look at things from a Western perspective. Turn that around. If I'm Russian and I see that I make a decision that other countries morally object to, my stuff can get seized. That is a massive problem. And these countries have responded. And Russia are not alone. They, China are leading the charge with de dollarization and gold buying and many, many others as well. That was when the train left the station in 22. And like I said, I don't see it returning anytime soon. Look at our fiscal situation. $37 trillion of debt and inability to cut spending. We've got debt service rising even when the Fed are lowering rates. It's a big problem and the world are responding.
Steve Bannon
We have, we have the government shut down, Schumer shut down the government about this very issue, trying to pay for the, for the health care of illegal aliens which we can't afford. Philip, we got a couple minutes. The Financial Times of London had this article about the fear of missing out. As one of the things driving it. Now, I know a lot of people when they call me, said, hey, Steve, I hear you. I've read it. It impresses me. I now kind of have a logic. But goal was 1100 bucks a couple of years ago. I think I missed the move in this. I just want people to know about how they get to you and how you walk people through it. Because I know a lot of people are saying, hey, 4,000, maybe I missed this. And I keep telling them, I said, don't worry about the price today. Understand what's driving the price and that will change your perspective or at least give you a window of how to make a decision here. So where do people go and how they interact with you and your staff?
Philip Patrick
It's very simple. It's birchgold.com Bannon again. Birchgold.com Bannon that's going to get them access to a lot of free and very good detailed information. End of the Dollar Empire reports, which will give very good historical perspective as well as current on the situation we're in. And also a guide on how and why to invest in gold under a Trump administration. I think we've seen from its performance there's a strong argument there. Look, I would tell people what you say, right? Look at what's driving gold's price, because if we really understand it, we understand it's going to keep going up. People were concerned it was too high at 1,000, at 2,000, at 3 and now at 4. I think it's got a lot of legs. Like I said, I think what we're seeing in this climate is a repricing of reality and, and I think there's a lot of legs on gold. So I would encourage people contact us. You're going to get access to myself or a lot of other people like myself. We're here to guide you through, give you the information and they'll do what they want from that.
Steve Bannon
Philip Patrick, thank you taking time. I know you're really busy during the day, so thanks for taking time to join us today. Appreciate it.
Philip Patrick
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Steve. Birchgold.com One simple ways. Take your phone out, text Bannon B A N N Owen, that would be me at 989-898 and you get the access to the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Just do it today, but make sure you make contact and build a relationship with the guys of Birch Gold, Philip Patrick and his team. I think another thing that the price of gold is showing us is that we have to get Our financial house in order, right? You have this kind of disconnect now between Capitol Hill, what President Trump's trying to accomplish, what Scott Besson is trying to accomplish. We got to get our house in order. You can't continue to run these $2 trillion deficits. Somebody's got to face up to this. And I know people are saying, well, it's so easy to finance that the bond market, the 10 year treasuries right now in great shape. The stock market, obviously the equity markets are on fire. But this is a ticking time bomb. And I think the increase in the price of gold is showing you that as people are sitting there going throughout the world going, I don't know, I don't know. You know, the euro's definitely collapsed. People are looking at the dollar and it's time now. We got to get maniacally focused on that. Short commercial break. Big news, when you talk about elections and maybe non citizens voting, the good old state of Wisconsin is going to require a check that everybody on that voter list is a citizen of the United States and the state of Wisconsin. All next in the War Room. What if he had the brightest mind in the war Room delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War Room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets, Jim predicted Trump's Electoral College victory exactly 3:12 to 2:26 down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, MoneyGPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos. Bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes and even threats to national security security. Right now, War Room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go to Rickards War room dot com. That's all one word. Rickards War Room records with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's rickardswarroom.com do it today.
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Okay, it's six o'. Clock. I want you to stick around six. What I'm gonna do is live is we're gonna go back and play. I'm gonna take you back two years ago today, we finally had time to do it because the show's been so jammed all day with just so much breaking news of what's going on, particularly on Capitol Hill and against President Trump and also throughout the nation. So we're going to go back two years as President Trump has a negotiating team in Egypt led by Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner to try to put put this deal to bed. Right. It's going to be very complicated. Can't trust the Muslim Brotherhood. Never could. But they're trying to work through a deal. I'm going to go back two years ago to the live broadcast of October 7th of 2023, when Stephen K. Bannon and had Jack Posobec join us live on that Saturday show, if you remember. And then I'll make some commentary and observations afterwards. Also going to talk about the fall of what is this, the Fifth Republic in France. Everything that's happening in Europe right now is inextricably linked with what's going on in this country because some of the same forces are driving it. And this situation in France is very serious. Plus, Mark Mitchell is going to join us in a big announcement. Monster America. I want to bring in Mike Lindell. So the reason I was going to do this the other day, a bunch of people in the war imposter saying, hey, how can we not cover in Wisconsin? And I want to wait for the reaction. So what's happened? And Mike Lindell, you've been all over this is that in Wisconsin we finally had and there was a state judge that ordered that the voter rolls there something Cleta Mitchell, you and others have been fighting on for years has to be reviewed to make sure that, hey, guess what, they're only U.S. citizens and citizens of Wisconsin on those rolls. Right after that was announced by the judge, of course, naturally, the Department of Justice of Wisconsin, the state has now gone to court to try to hold that up. Because guess what? For the Democrats, they understand they can't win elections if you only have citizens voting so Lindell, tell me what in the hell is going on in Wisconsin. Folks, if you remember, let's go back to big steal in 2020, in December, November. We're on those conference calls with the, with the local WEC for hours and hours and hours. We had 50,000 people watching Jack Basoba giving commentary. What in the hell's going on in Wisconsin now, sir?
Mike Lindell
Well, first I gotta tell everybody. The wac, that's their kind of like the Secretary of State as a group in Wisconsin, very crooked out there. The Wisconsin Wisconsin Election Commission. And if you guys go back to 2020, when I started investigating this, we all did. Wisconsin, everybody ready, has over 7 million names on their dirty voter rolls. If everybody voted in Wisconsin that could vote, it's a little over 4 million. And then yet you see how we fought and fought and now we get this great win. Hey, you guys gotta clean this up, Weck. You guys gotta clean this up. And now you just told me, Steve, that these uniparty and the Democrats and the uniparty Republicans are pushing back on this. This is, this is what we've been fighting. All these things. You just. This stuff doesn't even make sense. You can't even grasp it. Like, why would you not want to clean up these voter rolls? Why would you not want to clean up these names? This isn't just about illegals voting. They got names on there that don't live in Wisconsin, people that are deceased. They're like the. You want to talk. If you looked up dirty voter rolls, they are like the shining star, the perfect example of what we need to do to fix our country's election platforms.
Steve Bannon
No. And this is by the way, the DOJ for Wisconsin. This is not the Pam Bondi real doj. Main justice is fighting this and they're gonna fight it. And look, everything's connected. This is about illegal aliens and about people that are not citizens voting. This is what this insurrection. This is why President Trump's thinking of the Insurrection act in Portland and in Chicago. Because what are they fighting? They're fighting the mass deportations, right? The government is shut down. Why? Because paying a health care of illegal aliens. We have the senator from Indiana banks on today about the census and the census was gun decked in 2020 as we fought. Why? So they could count illegal aliens. I think I see some pattern recognition here. Mike Lindell. The Democratic Party does not exist as a political entity without illegal non citizens on the rolls to get welfare, Medicaid and to, to vote and keep them in power. Sir, it's so obvious what's going on here, brother.
Mike Lindell
It really is. And you guys, like I've been preaching for four and a half years. If we don't secure our election platforms, going paper ballots, hand counted, getting rid of the illegals, cleaning up the dirty voter rolls, all these things, they're trying everything they can. You don't think that they're just going to stop now because that Donald Trump got in power. This is. They're pulling out all the stops. And you see, just imagine this. I mean what is the sense here? They get this judge rules in our favor basically. And yet you have this energy over here that's going to fight this. This is disgusting. And this is what we're up against. They can only win if they cheat. If they're cheating, you get rid of that. This country is red. Redder than Ronald Reagan. It's as red as can be. It's mega red, everybody. It's a different kind of red.
Steve Bannon
Hang on. If they can't cheat, they can't win. Full stop. And screw them if they start. Oh, this is terrible. That's not democracy. Hey, we got democracy. We got the votes, okay? We've got the votes. No matter what you do. If they can't cheat, they can't win. Look what's happening in Wisconsin. It's been a long, tough day here in the war room. The audience wants a deal. Mike, what's the deal? Give us the deal. Dealer's choice. What's the deal you guys?
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Date: October 8, 2025
Host: Steve Bannon
Notable Guests: Peter Navarro, Pam Bondi, Jack Posobiec, Mike Lindell, Philip Patrick
This episode of "Bannon’s War Room" is centered on narratives of “deep state” overreach, alleged political persecution, weaponization of government agencies against Trump allies, as well as real-time reactions to Capitol Hill drama related to government shutdowns, border policy, and election integrity. The show features extensive interviews with Peter Navarro (live from the White House), former Attorney General Pam Bondi (via recorded Senate hearing exchanges), and segments on economic security—especially the rise of gold as a safe haven asset. The tone is combative, urgent, and highly partisan, with Bannon repeatedly calling for more aggressive action from Trump supporters in response to perceived persecution.
(00:00–01:41)
“The donor class, and this is why...President Trump is under tremendous pressure...RINO senators saying, ‘Oh, we can’t do this. It’s going to hurt GDP.’” (00:15)
“They all hate Trump up there, all the establishment...That’s why, Eric, now more than ever, I am down hard for Trump 2028. We cannot lose this guy. It’s once in a lifetime.” (01:32)
(02:05–09:47)
“I am not going to discuss any internal conversations with the White House.” (02:17)
“You won’t even say whether you talked to the White House about this.” (02:23)
“If you worked for me, you would have been fired because you were censured by Congress for lying.” (06:40)
“You were asked by my colleague from Vermont whether you will support providing a video or audio tape...Will you support that request?” (07:05)
(10:07–11:40, 11:40–14:32)
“It’s like a spy novel...twelve FBI agents...they’re after little old me.” (11:57) “The process is the warfare.” (22:18)
“They do it to our families. Bonnie [fiancée] stood by me...what bothered me most about that circus arrest was what they did to her.” (23:24–24:23)
(24:23–26:41)
“We need every name that approved your arrest...it's time to get beyond whistleblowers...We control DOJ. We control FBI. Why is that not all there?” (19:57)
(32:02–41:46)
“Central banks have been dumping dollars for the last three and a half years...Gold has become the reserve asset of choice.” (33:53)
“I think what we’re seeing in this climate is a repricing of reality...I want people to understand what’s driving gold’s price." (40:38)
(47:32–50:56)
“The Democratic Party does not exist as a political entity without illegal non-citizens on the rolls...It’s so obvious what’s going on here.” —Bannon (48:47) “If they can’t cheat, they can’t win. Full stop.” —Bannon (50:31)
Bannon on the stakes of the 2028 election and Trump:
“We cannot lose this guy. It’s once in a lifetime. Once in a lifetime.” (01:32)
Navarro on government tactics:
“It’s like a spy novel...twelve FBI agents...they’re after little old me. And it’s just like, like crazy stuff, like, like eavesdropping on Republican senators. It’s like taking me down in an armed arrest.” (11:57)
Bannon urging greater action:
“We need every name that approved your arrest...it's time to get beyond whistleblowers. We control DOJ. We control FBI.” (19:57)
On lawfare’s impact on families:
"When they do this kind of lawfare to me or Jeff Clark or John Eastman or you or the President, they do it to our families...When they perp walked her, I mean, that's unforgivable." —Navarro (23:24)
Patrick on central bank gold buying:
"Gold isn't being driven by fear anymore. It is being driven by acceptance. For the first time in decades, we're seeing mainstream money managers, pensions, institutions, endowments, following the lead of central banks." (34:46) "When the smartest money in the room starts buying the same asset that the founding fathers used as the definition of money itself...that is a confession that collectively we've made a big mistake." (36:26)
Mike Lindell on elections:
“If we don’t secure our election platforms...They can only win if they cheat. If they’re cheating, you get rid of that, this country is red, redder than Ronald Reagan...It’s mega red, everybody.” (49:43)
Bannon’s rallying cry:
"If they can't cheat, they can't win. Full stop. And screw them if they start. Oh, this is terrible. That's not democracy. Hey, we got democracy. We got the votes, okay?" (50:31)
For listeners who missed this episode:
You’ll find a traditional War Room fusion of defiance, personal testimony about “deep state” overreach, live battle updates from Capitol Hill, and prescriptive warnings on economic and electoral security—interspersed with advice on personal preparedness and repeated calls to double-down in the political fight.