
Episode 4846: Broker Of Peace In The Middle East And Economic Prosperity ...
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Steve Bannon
Today mean with the President, United States about to arrive in Jerusalem on Air Force One to meet Netanyahu, welcome some hostages back, and then address the Israeli nation at the Knesset. Sir.
Jack Posobec
Good morning, Steve. Great to be with you. We are here in Jerusalem on Jaffa Street. This place is going to be banging here in a bit. This is one of the sort of most busy places in Jerusalem where Israelis come. I was reminded this morning, Steve, what a small country this is and how everybody has been impacted by this. The camera operator that I'm working with this morning, we were looking at some of the hostages being released. And two of the guys are called the Berman twins, and he worked with them before, and he knows a lot of people in the company that they worked with, very respected guys. I've got family members who have said the same thing. They knew people that either got abducted on October 7th or got attacked or, you know, whatever happened. So it's really, if you want to think of it this way, Steve, it's a family rejoicing for what's happening today. They're excited. To say they're excited to have President Trump is perhaps the understatement of the century.
Steve Bannon
Jack, you've been on many of these trips with the president. You followed this very closely from the beginning. You and I covered this live on the day that it happened, October 7th. It was a Saturday. Your thoughts this morning as we await the president arrival on Air Force One.
Steve Wyckoff
Well, Steve, this is nothing short of historic. The scenes we're seeing are absolutely biblical. And there are posters now going up in Jerusalem that I'm seeing just go viral on social media saying that Cyrus the Great has returned and they are referring to President Trump as Cyrus the Great. I see the, the crowds cheering there. The Persian leader who came in, but also was able to provide peace to this area after, after they viewed him as a liberator of liberating them from the Babylonians and seeing this new covenant, seeing this new deal that is being put in place. I mean, it's nothing short of biblical. It's nothing short of biblical. And I don't know how anyone who's a believer can be watching these scenes, can be seeing this all happening and not. Not going back and brush on our. On our Old Testament.
Steve Bannon
Hang on for one second. Air Force One has landed. Just landed in Israel. You see a guard of honor coming out to meet it. There's supposed to be a very short. See the red carpet. It's going to be a very short Runway. Do we have audio? Let's try to Pick it up. Let's pick up the music.
President Donald Trump
It.
Joel Gilbert
Means hot Nema.
Steve Bannon
Jack Posobec. That is always the logistics is always brought forward on a military plane in advance as the Secret Service sets up for the President's travels. And obviously people in particular our audience are quite concerned about the security for the President. Since you didn't have months to plan this, you really had very, very. This was planned very, very quickly.
Steve Wyckoff
Well, Steve, that's right. So the beast and actually there's a pair of limos that will travel ahead of the President. They will fly on military aircraft and prior to the President arriving in any region, particularly region such as the Middle east and centcom, you've got, you're going to have teams in military, you're going to have special forces that are going out. They're going to be sighting in on those locations. They're going to be finding where the hospitals are, they're going to be finding where the routes are for various medical facilities, as well as making sure the President's entire military and security team is there on site at all times.
Jack Posobec
Stand here.
President Donald Trump
Which one?
Steve Bannon
And please hear. Let's try again.
President Donald Trump
Thank you.
Steve Bannon
People in the United States have been quite concerned about the security around all this. And I'll be honest with you, I don't. I think this is way too confusing and way too looks like un. Unmanageable. I, I would. I, I mean, I just think there's too many people around, too much media around. I, I don't get this coming into Israel on the spur of the moment. Joe, you first and then Kurt. But I really. We're just taking the fee from people. But man, I just don't that right there look like they're just winging it. They're making up as they go along. Joe Gilbert, your thoughts?
Joel Gilbert
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm very nervous when I see that many people crowded around the President from so many different directions. Don't forget a lot of these people have weapons that are authorized to have weapons. But who knows if you know, somebody has a beef, you know, so I get a little nervous when there's not enough space between the President and a large crowd. What occurred to me just watching this is this whole spectacle is based on misunderstanding. I recall that, you know, I visited Israel and Gaza was a pretty peaceful place at one time, but Israel gave up Gaza to the PLO terror group under the guise of the idea that peace would break out, that all they really wanted was to have their own territory without Israelis and there would be peace and people cheered and they had the square and they sang songs and they danced and immediately it just fell apart because the Israelis fundamentally did not understand that the Islamic world and the Palestinian Arabs did not want to accept Israel in any size or circumstance. And I believe that attitude remains the same today. And that's what they're going to encounter in the future. But it's all a result of this fundamental misunderstanding is why they had the war and why Trump is even there today.
Steve Bannon
Well, you see the outpouring from the Israeli people in the square. Also the rest of the people at the Knesset greeting him were all smiles. And I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, President had just spent 45 minutes in the beast in the car from Ben Gurion Airport to the Knesset with Netanyahu. I mean, they traveled together. And like I said, like I asked Joel when they started off, I'd like to be the fly, you know, inside the car to hear that conversation. Clearly it wasn't hail fellow, well met. The president had his game face on when he showed up. I've seen that look before. That's not a, that's not the ebullent. You know, President Trump didn't We got a shot inside the Knesset right now, but Bibi clearly was icy. And you said he didn't shake his hand after he signed the book. He specifically went and shook the Was it the speaker of the Knesset's hand but pretty evident, did not turn and, you know, shake Bibi's. I don't want to read too much into that, but it was clearly icy when they got out of the car and got there. And I think it's because Bibi's not enthusiastic. This is a catastrophic defeat for the Israel first crowd here, Tel Aviv, Levin and that crowd. Sure, they're banging their heads on the wall. It's a catastrophic defeat because they overreached, they pushed this Greater Israel project and it came crashing down around them. As the President of the United States, when Bibi, he already took out the negotiating team for Iran, which we now know he bald faced lied to the American people. And quite frankly, John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, should be hauled before the House about why he went, why he agreed with the Mossad's assessment that this thing was days or weeks away from a nuclear weapon. When the cabinet minutes in the cabinet debate was released by the Times of Israel and they agreed that it was a minimum of two years of which we said here in the war room, they went to kill the negotiating team that Steve Wyckoff was supposed to meet with in Oman that Sunday and really the hit the tripwire. President Trump was Netanyahu without, you know, without talking to the United States, went and did a missile attack into Qatar and to take out the negotiating team of Hamas. I mean how are you going to make a deal? How are you going to try to get the hostages back with, without doing that? This is the, the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Christians not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Steve Wyckoff
War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
Steve Bannon
It's Monday the 13th of October in the year of our Lord 2025. It is Columbus Day here in the United States of America and we continue our wall to wall coverage of this historic trip to the Middle East. Not just any trip really, the freeing of the hostages all by President Trump and he is en route and I think will momentarily land Air Force One. They left about 40 minutes ago and it's about a 45 minute flight at the Red Sea resort in Egypt where the nations of the world, I think 50 some nations or 25 nations have gathered, including many of the European powers, France, Italy, the United Kingdom and others. Of course all the prominent Arab nations and Muslim nation. I think Indonesia is there, Turkey's there and this is where the deal is going to get cut. Something happened today when President Trump was there. He said the long and painful nightmare of this two year war is over. He was very adamant about that. There we have the live shot at the at the seaside resort that President Trump is going to speak at that podium. These are the folks who are really putting together the deal. The money in the security and the Israel first crowd should understand what they've accomplished today, which is a two state solution. You're going to have a proto Palestinian state in Gaza, 2 million people. They're not going anywhere. You're going to have tens of billions of dollars from the Gulf Emirates and at least from the families that control the Gulf Emirates and Qatar and Saudi Arabia. Also in probably UAE and Turkey is going to provide at least the security guarantee. We've got a lot to go through. It's been historic so far. It's about to I think even get more historic. This morning was a little delay. By the way, President Trump spent hours longer in Israel than planned than the four hours he's just now getting to visit the Arab nations. We're supposed to start hours ago. That's fine. We got no place to go and nothing to do except cover this historic day. On Columbus Day. The there was President Trump, I think brokered a situation where Bibi actually got an invite from Sisi. And you know, Sisi is under tremendous pressure, the Egyptians, you know, not to be rubbing up on the Israelis. And so he's under tremendous pressure. I think he actually offered an invitation, but Bibi waved off at the last second. Netanyahu waved off. We'll try to get into all that. I've got Dave Bratt with us, also Ben Harnwell from Rome. Want to thank those two guys. They were there for the morning coverage. Want to thank Real America's voice. By the way, the team in Denver. Glad you were paying attention. That was a great, great, great cold open. Had the highlight reel. We didn't really get to President Trump's speech. We'll do some of that in the coming in the coming hour. Historic day was president the long and painful nightmare is over. President Trump also said a number of times today the war is over. With the war being over, that means the Greater Israel project is over. So the two state solution, what's happening, as Joel Gilbert so brilliantly laid out today, is 100% the result of the efforts of the Israel first crowd here in the United States which supported Netanyahu and his overreach. We're going to take a short commercial break. We're going to go back to the Red Sea when we return. Just hold the BB thing.
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Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posobe and so many more. Download the Getter app now. Sign up for free and be part of the new pan. Okay, welcome. I want a couple things. Number one, I really want to thank, of course, our Denver crew cut. Just an amazing cold open today. I've got Dave, Brett and Ben Harnwell with me this morning and we're going to bring them in a second. They were part of their earlier coverage. President Trump was supposed to be there for four hours and it was a pretty tight schedule. I believe he was there for eight hours. Number one, he had a huge meeting with the families, I think 100 members of the families of the hostages. And he sat there and just listened. They had kind of a roundtable or singing the round where people were passing the microphone. It shows what Kurt Mills calls the empathetic side of President Trump, which people that know him know it's quite strong. It was pretty amazing. And then he spoke and there were all these speeches. I mean, Bibi went on and on and the opposition leader went on and on. It was the speaker of their House went on and on. I mean, that's all fine, I realize, historic, but President Trump. Here we go, right here. Air Force One coming into Sharm El Sheikh, the world class resort on the Red Sea. And the security there, you think security in Israel was high, which it was, but there were parts of the Knesset part that we'll get into that was pretty, I thought, pretty concerning. There's a resort right there. Beautiful shot, this resort is known throughout the world. I want to thank real America's voice. Incredible coverage. And here's the thing. I had a chance to assess what we did this morning versus there's Air Force One. Is that beautiful coming in, landing in Egypt right now. It's old shuttle diplomacy from Kissinger, except this deal is going to have amazing impact on the Middle East. Unlike Kissinger's back and forth just which is kind of ridiculous back and forth as a servant over there. Our coverage quite frankly was just more serious and more sophisticated than the other channels. Other channels, a lot of it's pretty infantile. I realize the hostages are key and that's a celebratory thing, but that is kind of signal on a day that you ought to focus on or that's really noise on a day you ought to focus on signal because this is massively important, particularly for people who have supported Israel for decades. You're about to see a two state solution, A proto Palestinian state going to be created this afternoon in Egypt with unlimited cash sponsors that have very deep.
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Steve Bannon
An acknowledgement that the 2 million Palestinians are not going to go out to the Sinai desert to live in tents, they're going to stay in Gaza. And the Turks of all people are going to coordinate the Arab nations in some sort of security package or security guarantee which President Trump I think said in his speech he doesn't think will need to be to happen. But President Trump talked about it as a done deal last night. Bibi addressed by video, a pre taped video, the Israeli people. He talked about the Gaza part of this being over, but that the war continues. President Trump, when they asked that question on Air Force One on the way over in a gaggle, a press gaggle said no, no, no, no, let me be blunt. The war is over. And by that I think he sent a signal to Bibi that to Netanyahu that America is not going to be sponsoring these attacks on Arab nations or the Persians. And I think it was a big wake up call. Netanyahu didn't look to me. I mean his speech, he glazed President Trump for however long it took 20 minutes. But he was pretty dour during the day. And there's some photos of President Trump and Netanyahu doing one on one off to the side. And Netanyahu I think realizes the magnitude of what is going down today. Let me start with Dave Brat. We got Ben Harnwell. Dave, you were on, came on and helped us for a couple hours in the morning. You know this area and you also know the pressure that Congressmen have been over, I mean, President Trump actually. I mean, to the war room, called out Miriam Adelson, the biggest single donor to AIPAC and to these other institutions, and, you know, runs her deal with Sheldon Adelson's widow, who's Israeli, and runs it with an iron fist about, you will toe the line about Israel. And he called her out right there about being Israel first. In fact, we'll play that clip later. I was pretty stunned he did that in the Knesset. But that's President Trump. Your assessment so far of the eight hours that the president spent in Israel?
Dave Brat
Yeah. Well, I'll just repeat from this morning. I think we're going to have a new level of transparency that may compel us to continue the peace. When you see, right, when the whole world takes a look at the war dead, the soldiers dead, the innocents going back to their homes, et cetera. But then what you just said, you know, more sophisticated analysis of what's going on here and what Trump is really pulling off, right? Back in the 13th century, we had Islamic scholars, Christian scholars, and Jewish scholars who pulled together a unity narrative of historic proportions based on human reason. You can differ on the religion. And look what Trump is doing here, right? He calls out and says, you know, we need to follow the God of Abraham. Abraham, he said Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, right?
President Donald Trump
He's.
Dave Brat
He's Christian. The US Is predominantly Christian. Israel's predominantly Jewish. And then the Middle east is predominantly Muslim. And what's Trump doing? He's showing you can all get along. The west is the series of getting along. We have a constitutional republic in this country. And so it's very interesting who's blowing this up, right? The left does not want reason to be in charge. The west, the Communists do not believe in reason. We're still at war, right? We're still in World War 3. This part is cooling down. And Trump said, this war's done, thank God. But there's a unity, right? Israel knows, right? They're famous. Shema, hero, Israel. The Lord our God is one. We need to all unite together and do business and commerce. And you can debate the merits of some of the commerce coming up, but that's the way it should be. And Trump is just completely ironic how he pulls this off. He pulls together the religions of the world underneath the simple reason of you will get along. And so for me, that's what sticks out today. And then in Israel, you know, it just goes back. You know, Trump's not getting the Nobel Peace Prize, but, you know, Jesus in the Beatitudes in the sermon out. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God. And Trump is doing that. So that's the highest prize you can win. And blessed are the peacemakers, the sons of God. What does that mean? It means you're sharing in the very identity of God. Right. We're all made in the image of God. And Trump, he doesn't like to wear religion on his sleeve. But today, sorry, Mr. President, you're doing a fine job. Blessed are you, you're a peacemaker, you're revealing the very identity of God. And so it's just a great day in that respect. And it's too reliant on one person. The church in the US Needs to do better, the rabbis need to do better, the Islamic clerics. You gotta do better. We can all do better. And Trump's leading the way.
Steve Bannon
You said this morning, I wanna make sure we emphasize this before we go to break. You talk today about transparency. And your point was, when we get into the stories of the hostages and how they were inhumanely treated, and as the press gets into Gaza and see that it looks like Dresden, you're going to have, you know, Kurt Mill said, we're going to have a cyclone of media narratives coming out of here this afternoon, tomorrow and the next day. What did you mean by that? You said that as something that's almost going to be force accountability on people.
Dave Brat
Yeah, well, everyone will take that, you know, at first glance and say, well, you know, there's going to be false flag operations. Hamas may blow up a building or a grenade, or an Israeli radical may do something stupid. But the broader context is we're going to see human depravity, man against man, coming up. Now, we have not had US politicos, we follow politics every day, but the mainstream American is now going to, for the first time, see all of Palestine. They're going to get a sense of the horrific treatment of the Israeli hostages and it's not going to be pretty. But that very ugliness of human behavior toward each other may compel a peace. Right. And so we're all on our guard. We all know this is fragile. We're in the first step. We're going to see if there's a, you know, if they lay down their arms from Hamas and if all the, all of the prisoners make their way back and, you know, we'll be going on to step two, three and four, hopefully. But the transparency, I think, is going to reveal to everybody. Right. That we cannot go down this road any further. It's too far.
Steve Bannon
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And this is by far the more important part of the meeting because this is going to lay out actually the future of the Middle East. There's Air Force One at the bottom of the stairs, a guard of honor looks like from the Egyptian military. Is there also many dignitaries to meet the president of the United States. We're going to go as soon as he comes down, try to go live to see if there's any microphones and pick up anything that's said. He worked the crowd, so to speak, when he was there with when he landed in Israel, it was quite moving, a very simple but I thought pretty powerful meeting. Greeting for the president, United States, Ben Harnwell, give me your assessment of the first part of this. It was eight hours, not four. The president alone had a one hour speech in the Knesset. And it was so dramatic today about the releasing of the hostages. Quite frankly, the Israel, the outpouring of jubilation was something to behold. And I don't think the American media had picked up how important that was to the Israeli people. Obviously, people came together. In fact, most of the time we had the cameras on Hostage Square and Tel Aviv. And Tel Aviv, as you know, Joel Gilbert was telling us was like San Francisco, this is not Trump country. But you saw people with MAGA hats. You saw many signs for President Trump. And they actually had a couple signs about. By the way, there we are right there. The President of the United States in Egypt. Let's watch this as he descends to the reception by the Arab nations. The president with dignitaries right there. There's General Cece, who actually the president worked with earlier to get the invitation, to get the invitation for. For Netanyahu, which for kind of unknown reasons, he did not accept. I think it would be very important for him to be there today. The president with Egyptian authorities, I think other Gulf nations, this kind of reception. General Sisi, who's the. Let's call it like it is, military dictator of Egypt, is there. What I'm amazed at, Brad and Harnwell, is the. Here we go. Hang on. Here's the welcome. Is President Trump in the Beast, as it's called, with General Cece as they head to the resort. You know, Ben, we made a big deal this morning about the Knesset, and it looked like it was a little chaotic when the president arrived and put together at the last second. I was quite concerned about the security, I'll be blunt. And this, I think, shows you the courage, number one, the courage, the physical courage of Donald Trump and also how important this is to him. Remember Sadat, after signing the. What the Camp David, signed the Camp David Accords, or working was with Carter, he was assassinated at a passing review of the troops by rogue Islamists in the Egyptian military. So, I mean, right there, I realize the president's got to come and got to meet people, but, you know, here in the United States, we're most concerned. There's a motorcade as it heads to the resort. We're most concerned about President Trump's safety. There've been two assassination attempts on President Trump in the United States. Now he's in one of the most dangerous parts of the world. And the thing today in the Knesset was just maybe in the afternoon show, when things calm down, I'll play it. But it was completely unacceptable, the kind of chaotic response. And they say, well, that's how. That's how the Knesset is. It's, you know, very kind of like a family argument all the time, but it's just not acceptable. And even there, right there, given how Rabin and Sadat have been assassinated in the past, because without Trump, we're in the abyss. I mean, folks, you got to see what President Trump's doing right now on every different front. To return America to her greatness is unparalleled in our Nation's history except for President Lincoln and General Washington. That's it. There we are right there. Heading to the, the conference center at the resort. President Trump will be out over there in a moment. I think he's going to meet with some people kind of behind the scenes and then speak in a while. Ben Harnwell, first off, your just general assessment of the security. This all got put together last second. And President Trump wanted to do this because he forced everybody. He forced the system. He forced the system. Let's make sure we always get the, we don't need Ben and myself. Let's make sure we always got the motorcade. Okay, can we get the motorcade? Standing orders. Always do the action. There we go. Not that I don't like staring at the artist, doesn't like looking at Ben Harno on his new haircut. Did you pay for that haircut, by the way? I guess I shouldn't talk. Ben should not be talking about paying for haircuts. Right, Ben, your assessment? First off, I'm very concerned. And Brad, jump in. I'm very concerned about the security of it. People are trying their best. It's put together at the last second. President Trump often wants to do is, you know, he says, hey, we're going to do this. I'm going to be there when the hostages are released. And you kind of get what you get. Ben Harnwell first.
Ben Harnwell
Okay, so look, I first want to start off bouncing off the feed that we have before us and seeing President Trump descending the escalator. And I had a reminiscence as I was watching this along with the war room, along with you, Steve and Dave and all of America, all of the world watching this, I had a reminiscence. And I just want to make a first observation. Whenever you see President Donald Trump descending an escalator, it is always to put, when he gets to the bottom, to put both hands out and shake hands with divine providence, to shake hands with destiny, because that's the kind of person Donald Trump is. It was like a reflection of 10 years ago, right. 2015, when, when, when Donald Trump descended the golden escalator. And now he's doing that descending an escalator again off Air Force One and changing the course of human history because Donald Trump is a world historical figure. Okay. For the security. Right. As we were watching the Knesset this morning, it looked like a market scene from any city in the, in the, in the souk scene in any city in the Middle East. It was, it was chaotic, disorganized, and it's absolutely right, Steve, to say that there was a non zero risk to every minute Donald Trump spent there in Jerusalem today. A non zero risk. And we know, we know that there's a lot of opposition to this because astonishingly. And I can't now scratch my head. Look, I first worked in the British Parliament 30 years ago, then I spent time in the European Parliament. I've been around. I've seen a few things. I have never seen a president of a parliament or a speaker of a parliament tell a full parliamentary assembly in front of the visiting dignitary to behave themselves because protesters will be thrown out. You know, that kind of message is put out by the, by the speaker's office beforehand. Isn't it like, behave yourselves. I won't bridge dissent. The reason, Steve, is because that is.
Steve Bannon
But hang on, hang, don't, don't bury the lead. Because later in the speech, he did have a protest from a member of Parliament, a left wing member who had to be escorted out with security forces, one, two of them. I was actually shocked. He gave the warning, the warning. And then later on, you see that the left wing guys actually got up and were yelling at Trump, at the president in the United States, and were whisked away quickly. But that's how volatile it is when you have members of the parliament are warned publicly in front of the nation, in front of not just the nation, but the world. And this guy that's being allowed, like I said, in the square, in Hostage Square in Tel Aviv, that ain't Trump country. And you've got signs down there calling him Cyrus the Great. You've got signs down there saying, you know, basically, Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize. He was cheered the other night when Wycoff and Jared got there to address the crowd for the first time. And Netanyahu's name was booed when Witkoff said, yeah, by the way, your prime minister had something to do with this, too. It was lustily booed. And Trump in a progressive left crowd, was lauded, cheered heartily. And then today, you had a couple of guys get up. And this is my point about the security thing. You don't know when this is a volatile part of the country and these people, they run a little hot, right? So that was scary. And hey, I didn't like the tarmac right here. I just don't. I'm realist. President Trump wants to have the big, you know, reception, and that's great. But people have to remember one of the biggest peace deals ever, quote, unquote, peace deal ever. Signed, I think both participants were assassinated not too long after Sadat by his own people and Itzhak Rabin by, you know, kind of the right wing, kind of farther right than Bibi's, than Netanyahu's crew today. So it's something to be, to obviously be worried about. Guys, hang on for a second. We've got the motorcade going. Are we going to take a commercial break or blow the brake? Yeah, can we blow the brake? Because I think we got some action going on here. Ben Harnwell, I took away your microphone. I'm giving it back to you, sir, for your thoughts.
Ben Harnwell
Yeah, well, so there it is. It was a non zero risk and we see the level of opposition that is that Steve, you've mentioned a couple of times, both in the live show this morning and also in the morning show now, that the smiles and the goodwill that we saw at the Knesset and in the crowds. I just want to underline another point that you've also been repeating because it is related that what we are seeing is a controlled feed from Israel. They're pointing the cameras specifically so that President Trump comes out of this with a massive and well deserved feel good factor. They're not showing us the degree of opposition there. And that underlines the point that we mentioned earlier in the live show this morning that this is a very precarious state to be in. And President Trump has, I mean, I hesitate to use the word triumph of the will, but that is exactly what this is. This is a triumph of, of Donald Trump will because he, he made this happen with the, with the force of his personality. Alone, Alone and exclusively. Donald Trump has made this happen because he wanted it to happen.
Steve Bannon
No, extraordinary, you're right. He enforced his will on the situation as only few leaders can do. Ben, you've used a term that I throw around loosely, but I want the war room posse to understand what it means. World historical figure. Why is that term used for certain individuals like Napoleon or Churchill or Lord Nelson or, you know, a handful of people. Clive of India. A handful of people and not for others. What does it mean?
Ben Harnwell
Well, it's Hegel's termination term. It comes from Hegel because he believed that, that history was driven by specific individuals. Call it posterity, call it basically just sort of the power of the individual. But individuals themselves, certain points in history, have the ability, because factors come together to determine human history by the force of their own personality, by the force of their own charisma, by the force of their own will, by the force of their own power. They, whereas everybody else, when they influence events, it's more because they're there, they're going along with the current and they make a slight contribution. But there were very few individuals that change the direction of the river by themselves. And President Trump is one of those. He's definitely to use. I mean, that term did fall out of favor. It became a bit pejorative after the 30s and 40s of the last century. But I think it's, I think, I think Donald Trump himself has, by he, by, by what he's doing and what he has done, he has purified the term once again for use because he is a world historical figure. You name them, you name them. People like Napoleon and Churchill and Lincoln perhaps, and Donald Trump in future generations will be recited in, in the same, in, in the same names as, as the others as the line in which he's continuing in.
Steve Bannon
By the way, General Washington. It's also though, for, you know, people like Lenin, that's not lost at Stalin. There are certain bad guys. The president of the United States exiting the beast right there at the resort, security there. And of course, the General Sisi, the military dictator of, military dictator of Egypt, although he is quote, unquote, elected, right, with 90% of the vote in an area of the world that democracy really hasn't taken root that much. As Joel Gilbert said today, Israel being one of the few places there is a functioning democracy, they don't even make attempt of it in the, in the Gulf Emirates. President Trump meeting officials right there and then we'll go inside. I think he'll have a, a meet and greet or at least a few minutes with officials before the speech. Like I said, he's running four hours late for this because what happened in Israel was so important. And President Trump, kind of the empathetic President Trump sat there for over an hour with, sat there for over an hour with, with, with the hostages families. There we go right there. We got out of the, the advertisement President Trump going in General Sisi Dave Brat, is Donald Trump a world historical figure in the Hegelian sense? Philosophy professor. Professor of philosophy.
Dave Brat
Yes. Man, Harnwell's on fire. I want to go back to his non zero probability comment also. You know, I don't want to detract from our security team over there, but one madman with a gun, right, determined to lose his own life, wins, right? All the security experts will tell you that. And so to have those, a couple leftist freaks in the room in the Knesset or anywhere in the line getting off the plane like you Just said, I find that unacceptable. Back when I was in Congress, people were still landing planes, right? Model planes, smaller planes in the White House lawn, just to give people an idea, right? So it's not to detract from how great our Secret Service is, but they might get euphoric, sharing the mood, and one second lapse and it's all over then, right? So the ceremony's got to take a back seat to the president of the world historical figure. So let's go there. Hagel, right? The divine mind. But I will correct Hagel. Right. Kierkegaard said he would have been the greatest philosopher ever if he would have mentioned God. But this world historical mind, look at where we're at today. In the secular world, all the rest of the world powers never refer to God, right? That's why we are where we are. The globalists, the institutionalists, the deep state, the administrative state. There is no God, right? What's unique about Trump, he gets in front of Israel, making peace with Muslims, Jewish Christians, and invokes the God of Abraham. That is the. That he's not only a world historical figure, but he's the right world historical figure. Because it's not about just power, right? It's power subservient to God's will. And, boy, Trump stands out today. It's just stunning. And so a plus, kudos to Harnwell for bringing up that one.
Steve Bannon
I want to develop that for a minute because people, the enemies of President Trump and their legion on the left, even those have to kind of shut up today. Not all of them, but here's the thing I found so powerful. Obviously, Israeli officials are ecstatic for what president got him off the hook. They were kind of in a dead end with the hostages not being returned, the nation really turning against them, the IDF kind of being punched out and not really that excited about going into Gaza. This whole concept of the removal of 2 million Palestinians out of Gaza never got any traction was, quite frankly, kind of looked at as. As just over the top. So today, Israeli officials, people in the streets, Trump is Cyrus the Great. Trump is fantastic. You know, Trump could be elected prime minister today over in Israel by people on the left, not just on the right, who have always adored him in Jerusalem, but people on the left. I found it most interesting that President Trump had nothing, I felt, but humility today. And that shows you real power, and it shows you greatness. He took. And remember, he's 78 years old. He's getting off a red eye no time. You know, he didn't go to a hotel. He didn't sleep in for a couple hours. He didn't. And I know that Air Force One has a compartment for the President and the first lady has. But hey, it is just a bed on a. You know, the Air Force One is essentially a military command center with a some small accommodation for dignitaries and officials. Do not think it's that fancy. The military command center part of it is amazing because it is really a military command center for the President of the United States to go airborne and to be able to be commander in chief in case anything happens. That's the principal reason for it. Yes, he does his travel, obviously, but he gets off this after a long, I think eight hour flight. I mean we covered it. We covered it on the takeoff and then covered the landing and did four hours. And I can tell this audience, Dave Brat, Ben Harnwell, Stephen K. Bannon, our entire young team of 20 year olds in Denver and West Palm and here in the war room are dead tired and beat. This guy gets off a plane, there's no break. He does a. And here's what's so powerful. He spent over an hour with the families of the hostages and they didn't have TV cameras in there. This was not something he's trying to exploit for political benefit. He's like, he's risen above that. That's why he is a world historical figure for his actions. But he's also rising to something that's beyond just being a typical politician. He spent an hour just listening today with people just passing the microphone around and people giving these heartfelt stories right there. He's with General Sisi and I'm sure they're going to have a private time. If we can get do we have the audio? Can we pick that up? I'd love to hear what they have to say. Okay, let's. We can't get the audio. They're going to sit down and have a. President Trump doesn't drink coffee, but if you're there, you'd have one of those Turkish or Saudi coffees that would get you rolling. His warpath maybe to the 10th power. As soon as we get sound, let's go ahead and he's got some leaders right there. He's going to spend some time. Let's go ahead and listen in.
President Donald Trump
Do you want to have a couple of questions? Because we're having an amazing period of time like I think nobody's seen before. And we had tremendous stop, as you know, in Israel and now we're in a country where a friend of mine is a very powerful leader. And my friend is right here, the president, but also the general. You know, sometimes I call him, usually I call him the general because he's both and he's good at both. And they've done a fantastic job. And they have very little crime, you know, because they don't play games. That's why they don't play games like we do in the United States with governors that have no idea what they're doing, but they don't have crime. I ask about crime and they almost don't even know what I'm talking about. So it's, it's a great tribute to this man. He's done a fantastic job in bringing this country together, and the United States is with him all the way. Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Okay.
President Donald Trump
All right. An honor to be with you, sir.
Steve Bannon
What will Egypt's role play in the peace process here?
President Donald Trump
He played a very important role, and they had a very important role with Hamas. In fact, the general was right here, was very instrumental because Hamas respects this country and they respect the leadership of Egypt. So we had a. He played a very important role. I appreciate it very much. Thank you.
Steve Bannon
Thanks. President Trump in Israel just now you were talking about a possible Iran peace deal. You said, we are ready when you are. Is that the ultimate goal with today's signing, to get.
President Donald Trump
Not Iran, but I think Iran will come along. They've been battered and bruised and, you know, they're, they need some help. They, they have big sanctions, as you know, tremendous sanctions. I'd love to take the sanctions off when they're ready to talk, but they can't really survive with those sanctions. Those sanctions are very tough. But at some point they're going to say, we want the sanctions off. We're going to end up with peace. I think Iran is going to be fine. I know so many Iranian people. They're great people. They're smart, great, great people. Engineers, lawyers. I mean, they're academics. But they took a big hit. And frankly, if we didn't hit them on the nuclear, I don't think you would have been able to have this incredible, this deal, this once in a lifetime deal. Nobody has ever seen anything like what's happening today. And countries have all come together, all different countries. Some liked each other, some didn't, most didn't. And they've all come together. Every country has come together. And by the way, Iran did put out a statement, you know, that they support this deal very wholeheartedly. So that was in itself something. But, no, I think they want to that's all I do in my life. I make deals. And they want to make a deal.
Steve Bannon
Now that the living hostages have been returned, can you please tell us what the next steps are?
President Donald Trump
Well, they're going and looking for bodies and some pretty gruesome task. And they know where numerous are, as you know, I guess five or six are in yet now, but they're looking for bodies. They know the areas and the search parties out. And they're doing it in conjunction with Israel and they're going to be finding quite a few of them.
Ben Harnwell
President Trump, can you tell us when.
Steve Bannon
Phase two of the negotiations will begin?
President Donald Trump
Well, it started, I mean, it started as far as we're concerned, phase three started and, you know, the phases are all a little bit mixed in with each other. They're going to start cleaning up. You look at Gaza needs a lot of cleanup. That's why when I talked in my speech, I talked about the debris. I use the word debris. That's debris times 10. So but we're going to, they're going to really do a job. They have a lot of, of power. In another room, you have the wealthiest, some of the wealthiest nations in the world, all leaders. The big leaders are here, the emirs and the kings and everybody. And it's a very interesting group. I guess we have like 35 countries, and that's only because they were the 35 that we invited. Everybody that we invited came. So there's a lot of respect and I think you'll see some tremendous progress both in the Middle East. This country is doing very well. It has good leadership. It's about leadership. And it's really nice when you say, how is your crime situation? And they're like, don't even know what you're talking about. What do you mean, crime? We don't have crime because if he has crime, he puts it out very quickly. Some people think that's not nice, but I think it's great because people don't want to be mugged and smashed and they don't want to be stupid people. They have a place that is doing very well. We're very proud of him because we knew each other from the beginning. The first time I met, it was in a hotel and I was going to meet him and then Hillary Clinton was following me. Remember Hillary Clinton? And he liked me so much he never even got to see Hillary. So I first about two seconds, but he didn't really want to waste a lot of time. He knew what was going to happen. But that was the first Time we met and we had a very good chemistry together and it continues till today. So I want to thank you all very much. I appreciate the way you covered this. Really momentous. I've never seen anything like it. The level of love, the level of respect for what it is and it, and you know, it's peace in the Middle east that everybody said it's not possible to do and it's going to happen and it is happening before your very eyes and that's why it's become so fascinating. Marco, do you have anything to say?
Marco
Egypt has been a phenomenal participant. I think both Steve and Jared will tell you the critical role they played and they can tell you themselves. They hosted the talks here and they're going to play a very important role now in the follow up, the implementation of this, which is really, it's not simply about restoring Gaza, it is about transforming the region. So we have an incredible partner, a long alliance, very capable partner here and a tremendous collection of leaders. This is clearly in my mind, I think in the mind of everyone in this room. Probably one of the most important days for world peace in 50 years. That's not an exaggeration. Only 50, maybe 100 since the end.
Steve Bannon
Of World War II. Mr. Wyckoff and Mr. Kushner, I'm curious, you've played such an important role in.
Dave Brat
The tactical negotiations here.
Steve Bannon
What will your role be going forward as a lot more has to be.
Dave Brat
Brought to the table here.
President Donald Trump
The minute we had ink the deal, Jared and I were already working on the implementation side of the deal. So we're dug in. We'll be here quite a bit. That's at the direction of the president. That's probably when filming be one of the most important phases here. Jared is remarkable to work with. I talk about it all the time. And of course we both love working for the president. So it's a feels like a very honorable job. Mr. President, would you like to say something with the interpreter? Yes.
I
Say I welcome you to Egypt. It's a great pleasure and an honor to have you with us here in the city of peace. Shamshe, allow me also to extend on behalf of all Egyptians and peace lovers around the world, salute the appreciation and the respect for this unprecedented and momentous accomplishment.
President Donald Trump
Ala Takhir.
I
I've been very confident that your excellency is the only one who is capable of bringing this about and bringing in to this war. I even said that very precisely during my communication with your excellence that you are the only one who is able to bring about peace and to achieve peace in this, what we need to do now is to fixate the ceasefire, make sure that it maintains and sustains that we can to level all of the remaining. The bodies of the deceased to their families. And this is very important to bring in more humanitarian assistance into the strip and working very closely on following up the rest of the steps that should be taken to make this successful.
President Donald Trump
Mr. President, you did very great. Thank you. He's a good man.
Steve Bannon
Thank you.
President Donald Trump
He's a good man. We're with him all the way.
Steve Bannon
Will he be on the Board of Peace, sir?
President Donald Trump
I'd like to have him on the board. I'd like to. We may need an interpreter, but that's okay. You can't do better.
I
The Board of Peace. I'll be there.
President Donald Trump
We've had many leaders want to be on the board. Actually, the Board of Peace, it's taken on Steve, I'd say a life of its own. Do you want to discuss that? What's happened?
Steve Bannon
I think we have a long list.
President Donald Trump
Of applicants to be on the board. Everybody wants. That's very nice. That's better than the other way. Usually it's the other way. Nobody wants to be on the board, but. But it's really taken on. This whole thing has taken on a life that's very different. So it's been really a great honor and you people have done a fantastic job. I want to tell you that we appreciate it very much. Thank you very much, everybody, please.
I
I just want to look forward to your excellency's support and your sponsorship with us in the conference for the Reconstruction.
President Donald Trump
Thank you 100%. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. All right, thank you for you guys. Let's go. Thanks, guys.
Joel Gilbert
Let's head out. Okay.
Steve Bannon
That's a gaggle of press avail. There's dash of burns right there. Politico, what President Trump is talking about in the. In the campaign of 2016. Because Hillary is making such a big deal about her bona fides as world leader, we made a decision, Jared and myself made a decision that President Trump would go to the United nations and take some meetings. The very first meeting we had, and I believe it was General Flynn and Senator Sessions accompanied Jared and I went. But let those two go into the room with General Sisi and his entouragecouple advisors. Want to keep it very low key. And they hit it off right away. General Sisi saw something in Trump because, remember at that time, coming off the Obama years, the Middle east was a complete and total mess. And General Sisi saw something in Trump and then later couldn't fit Hillary into his schedule. And it really gave a boost ofand. I remember President Trump because, you know, he had never really been to the United Nations. He was a businessman, not a diplomat. But they had a long meeting and really bonded. He's been very close to General Syci. You see right there when I said when he shows up, we call him General. President Trump done referred to him as president because, I mean, Egypt is a tough place to govern, right? It has very little industry. It has a massive population that does have the agriculture that it used to be the Kansas for the Roman Empire, right? You remember Cleopatra and all the Marc Antony and everybody going to Egypt as where the grain was. But General Sisi is very close to President Trump and he's been central to putting this deal together. In fact, the convening nations today are Qatar, Egypt, Turkey and the United States of America. So you have one of the Gulf emirates, you then have what I think most people considered the leading Arab nation, which would be Egypt, with the ancient civilization. And of course, you have the Turks, who are not Arabs, but one of the largest Muslim countries. And of course, Erdogan. Erdogan and Sisi are kind of the same guy, right? These kind of very tough leaders that the Middle east has and, you know, has to have. Ben Harnwell, your thoughts on all this.
Ben Harnwell
Well, I'm glad you say that, Steve, because it was absolutely visible to me that there was far more warmth from President Trump today, sitting next to President General El Sisi, than he showed to Bibi earlier on in Israel today. Far, far more warmth. It was noticeable, right? Genuine affection, genuine warmth. Look, there was in that press conference today something that President Trump said very quickly, very innocuously, and I wrote it down as quickly as I could. So this is an on the spur of the moment transcription of what he said. So I'll allow for myself to be corrected if we get a full verbal at a later point to refresh the war room, he was asked a question, President Trump was asked a question about whether Iran is going to be involved in any way moving forward with the peace. And he said that he complimented very highly the Iranian people said he wanted to lift the sanctions. And then, Steve, he said this because he mentioned the bombing of the nuclear plant. And he said if we didn't bomb them, the nuclear plant, we wouldn't have this agreement here today. Now, what I'm going to say to that is whoever has is to hear, let them listen. That is, I think, a thousand percent a thesis confirmation of the thesis that the war room mentioned this morning. And you mentioned it sort of repeatedly in the morning, Steve, and again on, on the, on the show today, on this show. Now that's really that what really did it for Bibi Netanyahu, what the tide turned was when they deceived President Trump into bombing Iran. Right. That I think when he realized that not only the Bibi but also Bibi stooges in the United States, the Israel first crowd, as you've said repeatedly today, they over overplayed their hand. That is why we are here today. That is the how Bibi must be wondering because a couple of weeks ago he was looking at the possibility of doing a full military invasion in Gaza like as a precursor to annexing the strip.
Steve Bannon
Oh no.
Ben Harnwell
You must be wondering how, yeah, how exactly did he succeed in snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory? And it's because of this. And I think one of the reasons Trump confirmed it right now.
Steve Bannon
And I think it's all, I mean part of this is this audience and people that are saying, hey, we support Israel but we're America first. You don't call the shot. And what you did in Persia was unacceptable and a bald faced lie. And we know that from the times of Israel and the release of the war cabinet minutes. It's two years, as we said here on the show over and over again. I think it was a disgrace that John Ratcliffe, the CIA director doesn't need to show up in Israel today. He should be back at Langley doing something CIA type things which is like get our own intelligence and stop taking it from the Mossad. That and what really hit President Trump's tripwire because that was all about not taking out the nuclear facility because they didn't do it. It was decapitating the Iranian regime and particularly the negotiating team that had a meeting scheduled with Witkoff to try to get a negotiated end to it. And then Bibi did it again in Qatar to try to take out the Hamas team. How are you going to get a deal? How are you going to get a deal to bring the hostages home? Like today when you try to take out the negotiating team that's doing it.
President Donald Trump
No, no.
Steve Bannon
Huge sea change. And you're absolutely correct. There's general warmth and respect between the president and General El Sisi of Egypt, which you didn't see with Netanyahu in Israel. Short break. We're going to return in a moment.
Episode 4846: Broker Of Peace In The Middle East And Economic Prosperity
Air Date: October 13, 2025
This historic episode covers President Donald Trump's dramatic trip to the Middle East amid the resolution of a two-year war between Israel and Palestinian factions. The episode tracks the President as he lands in Jerusalem to welcome released hostages and address the Knesset, then continues with his arrival at a major multinational peace summit in Egypt. The War Room team analyzes the significance of Trump’s diplomatic triumph, the reactions of Israeli and Arab leaders, the brokering of a two-state solution and unprecedented financial and security commitments from Arab states. Throughout, the panel offers critical, behind-the-scenes interpretations of the negotiations, challenges to security, and the broader impact on regional and global politics—with a focus on President Trump’s role as a singular driver of events.
[00:15] Jack Posobec (Live from Jerusalem’s Jaffa Street):
[01:32] Steve Wyckoff:
[04:13] Steve Bannon:
[06:34] Joel Gilbert:
[07:56] Steve Bannon:
[11:22] Steve Bannon:
[20:19] Steve Bannon:
[17:24-23:19] Dave Brat:
[27:10] Steve Bannon, [22:25] Dave Brat:
[42:00] Ben Harnwell:
[44:12] Bannon, [46:22] Harnwell:
[47:44] Steve Bannon, [48:17] Ben Harnwell:
[56:44–66:34] President Donald Trump and Egyptian President el-Sisi:
[70:56] Ben Harnwell:
[49:51] Steve Bannon, [51:19] Dave Brat:
“To say they're excited to have President Trump is perhaps the understatement of the century.”
— Jack Posobec ([01:09])
“The scenes we're seeing are absolutely biblical… there are posters… saying that Cyrus the Great has returned and they are referring to President Trump as Cyrus the Great.”
— Steve Wyckoff ([01:34])
“President Trump also said a number of times today the war is over. With the war being over, that means the Greater Israel project is over.”
— Steve Bannon ([14:50])
“He made this happen with the, with the force of his personality. Alone, Alone and exclusively. Donald Trump has made this happen because he wanted it to happen.”
— Ben Harnwell ([46:22])
“It is about transforming the region. So we have an incredible partner, a long alliance, very capable partner here and a tremendous collection of leaders. This is clearly... one of the most important days for world peace in 50 years. That's not an exaggeration.”
— Marco, U.S. official ([62:37])
“He enforced his will on the situation as only few leaders can do… World historical figure.”
— Steve Bannon ([47:44])
This episode captures a profound shift in Middle Eastern geopolitics. President Trump’s surprise visit to Israel and Egypt culminates in the end of a major war, the creation of a two-state solution, significant economic rehabilitation for Gaza, and new security architecture involving Arab powers. The hosts depict Trump as a “world historical” force uniquely capable of bending events, often contrasting his vision and capability with those of the region’s other leaders. The panel stresses the precariousness of the peace, the fragility of the political landscape, and the moment’s historic resonance—politically, emotionally, and philosophically.
For listeners, this episode provides both a granular behind-the-scenes view and a sweeping, often dramatic, interpretation of diplomatic statecraft at a world-changing crossroads.