Episode 4848: Rebuilding Begins In Gaza And What Will We Uncover; US Navy Began With A Fishing Boat

Summary

Bannon's War Room — Episode 4848: "Rebuilding Begins In Gaza And What Will We Uncover; US Navy Began With A Fishing Boat"

Date: October 14, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Guests: Donald Trump, Patrick K. O'Donnell, Dave Walsh

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Episode Overview

This episode explores the historic developments in the Middle East—particularly a major multinational agreement for Gaza’s reconstruction—and marks the 250th anniversary of the U.S. Navy. Host Steve Bannon is joined by former President Donald Trump, military historian Patrick K. O’Donnell, and energy expert Dave Walsh. The episode weaves together the geopolitics surrounding Gaza, economic conflict with China, U.S. foreign policy dilemmas, national security, and reflections on America's naval history.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Middle East Peace Breakthrough and Gaza’s Reconstruction

Segment: 00:00–16:10, 16:27–29:31

• Donald Trump’s Reflections: Trump recounts the unprecedented progress of a multinational Middle East agreement, emphasizing ceasefire and hostages in Israel and Gaza. Trump thanks key leaders (including Egypt’s President El-Sisi) for facilitating cooperation, and stresses unity over old hatreds.

  “For the first time anyone can remember, we have a once in a lifetime chance to put the old feuds and bitter hatreds behind us... This is the first time the Middle East crisis has brought people together as opposed to driving them apart.” (Donald Trump, 02:07)

• Conditions for Gaza Aid: Trump asserts that international support must uplift people “but we don’t want to fund anything having to do with bloodshed, hatred or terror…” and calls for “a new honest civilian police force” for a demilitarized Gaza.

• Broad International Participation: Bannon highlights the assembly of world powers, referencing a 20-point peace plan signed on the Red Sea’s shores. The plan features massive financial investments, humanitarian guarantees (Palestinians will not be forced from Gaza), and a security force coordinated by Turkey—not the U.S.

• Israeli Exclusion / Realignment: Bannon asserts that Netanyahu and the Israeli government were not directly involved in the agreement, marking a significant shift in the regional dynamic.

  “Netanyahu was not invited, not in the room, not in the deal when the negotiation of those points took place.” (Steve Bannon, 18:24)

• Turkish Influence on Security: The new security force in Gaza will be orchestrated by Turkey, with Gulf states and other Muslim nations backing the initiative. (Referencing Turkey’s non-attendance if Netanyahu participated.)

• Transparency and Media Scrutiny: Discussion anticipates a surge of global media reporting from Gaza, expected to reveal war crimes, humanitarian issues, and a “cyclone of media” attention.

  “Kurt Mills referred to it as the world's biggest crime scene.” (Steve Bannon, 12:55)

2. Global Geopolitics and U.S. Strategic Priorities

Segment: 04:58–16:10, 16:27–29:31

• Trump’s International Diplomacy: Recap of Trump’s travels—Israel, Egypt—and upcoming strategic meetings with Zelensky and Netanyahu regarding U.S. military support, including “potentially Tomahawk missiles.”

• Chinese Economic Warfare:

  • The CCP’s “blatant economic warfare,” with trade restrictions especially on rare earths, poses a critical threat to U.S. industry and military supply chains.
  • Historical context: China’s earlier rare earth embargo on Japan over East China Sea disputes.

  “We talked about this on Breitbart radio in 2015…we warned, we have to decouple. And yeah, decouple may have a couple of speed bumps in it, but if you don't have decoupled, they're going to put a gun to your head one day when they think they've got you.” (Steve Bannon, 26:15)

• Ukraine War Escalation: Ongoing, bloody conflict in Ukraine is framed as “bloodier than the first couple of years of World War II,” with massive casualties and humanitarian disaster.

• U.S. Internal Politics & Foreign Aid:

  • Bannon argues that America is narrowly avoiding direct military entanglement in the Middle East and Eastern Europe but faces increasing pressure from both allies and adversaries.

3. US Navy 250th Anniversary: From Humble Origins to Superpower

Segment: 29:31–41:46

• Commemoration: Trump and Bannon mark Navy’s “tale of loyalty, sacrifice and commitment stretching back 250 years,” highlighting its unbroken record of “hunt, kill and to win.”

  “The Navy has never failed to hunt, kill and to win. Through it all, the United States Navy has kept the Stars and Stripes soaring.” (Donald Trump, 29:31)

• Patrick K. O’Donnell’s Naval History:

  • Recounts George Washington’s creation of the Navy in 1775—starting with a single fishing boat, the Hannah, converted to raid British supply ships (without Congressional approval).
  • Early American naval leadership epitomized “asymmetric warfare,” significant not just militarily but symbolically for sovereignty.
  • Notable anecdote: John Glover’s display of force against a Loyalist mob by rolling a cannon into his foyer.
  • The Navy as economic weaponry: the first raids contributed to skyrocketing British insurance rates, serving as “economic war against Great Britain.”

  “When you are starting to build and outfit vessels, you are creating a sovereign nation… The first flag is the ‘Appeal to Heaven.’ And that comes from these ships as well.” (Patrick K. O'Donnell, 37:40)

  • Bannon and O’Donnell cite the powerful tradition of “the cussedness and grit” of early American naval forces, recommending O’Donnell’s books as essential Revolutionary history.

4. US Energy Crisis & the Rise of AI Data Centers

Segment: 41:46–51:54

• Dave Walsh on the Energy Crunch:

  • AI-driven data centers are voracious new consumers of electricity, especially in Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Maryland.
  • Power shortages are bidding up prices: “Forward auction prices up by a factor of 10 times for electric power,” leading to projected household rate increases of 4x in New Jersey, 50% in Maryland.
  • Utilities are favoring vast solar and battery investments—citing profit incentives—but reliability is dropping (“5 hours a day” power), with gas-fired plants deprioritized.

• Ron DeSantis & Florida’s Dilemma:

  • Governor DeSantis’ administration continues to approve every major utility-scale solar project, influenced by power company PAC contributions.

  “This is related to the donations to PACs from the power companies. They dominate politics in Florida. Duke Teco and FPL dominate the state House, the state Senate and the governor through PAC donations.” (Dave Walsh, 51:15)

  • Bannon expresses skepticism over DeSantis’s populist credentials given this energy policy alignment.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Historic Middle East Shift:

  “A total reordering of the Middle East happened today. Not in Jerusalem; it happened in the resort on the shores of the Red Sea in Egypt.” (Steve Bannon, 14:27)

• On U.S. Strategic Blindspots:

  “The reality of the two major conflicts on the Eurasian landmass: one, an advanced military conflict bloodier than the first couple years of World War II… and blatant economic warfare by the Chinese Communist Party.” (Steve Bannon, 09:50)

• U.S. Navy's Spirit:

  “America's Navy never, ever gives up the ship. We own the skies. We stalk the depths and we rule the seas.” (Donald Trump, 30:04)

• Historical Grit:

  “And there's a kind of great get off my lawn story... he takes one of these four pound guns and puts it in the foyer of his house... and he says, disperse. And the people, you know, this crowd of loyalists with pitchforks and torches, disperse.” (Patrick K. O’Donnell, 33:53)

• On the Drive for Energy Profits:

  “They're opting for the far more expensive capital cost, two and a half times more costly... to make more money through their rates.” (Dave Walsh, 48:44)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00 – 04:57: Donald Trump reflects on the Middle East peace process and Gaza.
• 04:58 – 16:10: Bannon sets out global stakes: Middle East, China trade war, Ukraine.
• 16:27 – 29:31: Bannon on the Red Sea agreement, Turkey’s security role, outcomes for Gaza.
• 29:31 – 41:46: Navy’s 250th Anniversary—with historical storytelling by Patrick K. O'Donnell.
• 41:46 – 51:54: Energy crisis, Florida’s solar investments, DeSantis, and data centers with Dave Walsh.

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Tone and Style

The episode is combative and urgent, frequently unvarnished and sometimes polemical. Bannon’s tone is combative and earnest; Trump is both congratulatory and statesmanlike; O’Donnell brings historical insight with a narrative flair.

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Summary Table

| Topic | Speakers | Key Points/Events | Timestamp | |-----------------------------|----------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------------------| | Middle East Deal | Trump, Bannon | Historic peace, Gaza invested and demilitarized, Israel excluded from talks | 00:00–16:10, 16:27–29:31| | China/Eco. Warfare | Bannon | CCP rare earths embargo, U.S. vulnerability, calls for decoupling | 09:50–15:00 | | Ukraine War | Bannon | Ongoing bloodshed, U.S. weapons aid debated | 11:10–15:00 | | Navy 250th History | O’Donnell, Bannon | Origin story from the Hannah, sovereignty, first acts of economic warfare | 29:31–41:46 | | U.S. Energy Crisis | Walsh, Bannon | AI data centers straining grid, rate hikes, populism and Florida’s solar policy | 41:46–51:54 |

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Recommendations for Listeners

• For foreign policy enthusiasts: Deep dive into Middle East diplomacy not found in standard media narratives.
• For history buffs: Engaging naval history segment celebrates Navy 250.
• For business and energy watchers: Timely warnings on U.S.–China economic standoff and domestic energy policy.

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Transcript

[Donald Trump]

Period of time like I think nobody's seen before. And we had tremendous stop, as you know, in Israel. And now we're in a country where a friend of mine is a very powerful leader, and my friend is right here, the president, but also the general. You know, sometimes I call him. Usually I call him the general because he's both and he's good at both. And they've done a fantastic job. And they have very little crime, you know, because they don't play games. That's why they don't play games like we do in the United States, with governors that have no idea what they're doing, but they don't have crime. I ask about crime, and they almost don't even know what I'm talking about. So it's a great tribute to this man. He's done a fantastic job in bringing this country together, and the United States is with him all the way. And they had a very important role with Hamas. In fact, the general was right here, was very instrumental because Hamas respects this country and they respect the leadership of Egypt. So we had a. You played a very important role. I appreciate it very much. Thank you. It's a tremendous day for the Middle east. And you can see that this is probably the greatest assemblage of countries in terms of wealth and power maybe ever assembled. And it's just an honor to be a part of it. We're going to be signing a document that's going to spell out of a lot of rules and regulations and lots of other things, and it's very comprehensive. But we've already signed documents in the Middle east and having to do with Israel and Hamas and just about everything else. And it's. It's really working out incredibly well. The hostages, as you know, were let go on time, on schedule. The very sad situation of bodies, which was always a sad situation, and they're being sought out and they're working with many different people, finding some were brought in and some were not, and they're working out to find out where those bodies are. It's hard to believe that you even have to say something like that. It's so sad. It's so sad. But what's not sad is that we have finally, after, I guess they say, 3,000 years. I've heard from 3,000 years to 500 years. But whatever it is, it's a lot. But this was the one. This was the granddaddy of them all. And frankly, I thought this was probably going to be the toughest, and maybe in many ways it was but we had a lot of good talent. Steve Witkoff, Jared and Marco and Pete. And General Kane was so great. John Ratcliffe was incredible. We had an amazing array of talent. Today, for the first time anyone can remember, we have a once in a lifetime chance to put the old feuds and bitter hatreds behind us. And that's why so many people in this room, they didn't get along. Some did, some didn't, but they're getting along now. This has brought the people together. This is the first time the Middle east crisis has brought people together as opposed to driving them apart. And to declare that our future will not be ruled by the fights of the generations past, which is foolish. So together, let us continue in the spirit of cooperation and goodwill that has finally brought us to this incredible historic breakthrough. If we do, together, we will reach the Middle East's incredible destiny. A safe and prosperous and beautiful crossroads of culture and commerce, faith in humanity and geographic center. This will be the geographic center of the world. We've all agreed that supporting Gaza must be done to lift up the people themselves. But we don't want to fund anything having to do with bloodshed, hatred or terror, as has happened in the past. And for the same reason, we're also agreed that Gaza's reconstruction requires that it be demilitarized and that a new honest civilian police force must be allowed to create a safe condition for the people in Gaza. So you have Armenia and you have Bahrain, you have Canada. It's so great to have. In fact, the President called and he wanted to know if it's worthwhile. He knew exactly what it was. He knew the importance. Where's Canada, by the way? Where are you? Where are you? He knew the importance of this. He said, I want to be there. So many people have done that. They called. I mean, they heard about it. And these are not people that can do that very easily. They have pretty big schedules to put it in the most powerful people. And I appreciate you being here very much, Mr. President. Fantastic. Fantastic.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm glad you upgraded me to President. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. Reasons I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

And where do people like that go.

[Steve Bannon]

To share the big lie?

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

MAGA media I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

[Steve Bannon]

Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. War ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Band. It's Monday the 13th of October in the year of our Lord 2025. It is both Columbus Day and it is also the 250th anniversary commemoration of the birth of the United States Navy. Patrick K. O' Donnell is going to join us. I want to make sure that even given everything we did with Navy 250 that we don't miss the actual date itself. And Patrick, the best combat historian of his generation is going to join us here this afternoon. So the president took was in Israel for eight hours and then he went to Egypt and I think he ran over the clock there. So he's now airborne, I believe. We'll be back at the White House around midnight to focus on two pressing priorities. Zelinsky, our favorite guy here at the White House. Right back in. Right. And back in Netanyahu, is going to come to the White House on Friday and they're going to have a a quite important meeting where they're going to talk about really America's commitment to this war in the bloodlands and particularly maybe potentially Tomahawk missiles or other offensive missiles. Anyway, the whole discussion and strategic discussion about the kinetic part of the Third World War, which we're deep into, will be discussed then between now and then when the president gets back. A pressing concern is the actual breakout of blatant economic warfare by the Chinese Communist Party against the United States of America. This comes with a letter the the Chinese Communist Party Xi sending notifications to countries about component parts and about trade restrictions and controls. Part A big part of this gets down to rare earths, particularly heavy rare earths that are used in our industrial process. And people have argued that particularly with magnets and these other things that President Trump thought they worked at a rapprochement or an accommodation back in June with Scott Besant and Peter Navarro and our trade representative that we had worked at a rapprochement. The Chinese Communist Party does not look at it like that. They look at this as a leverageable moment. And this is quite serious. You've got guys on CNBC today and in the Financial Times saying, hey, we should have stockpiled these things. Yes, yes, yes, yes. We talked about this on Breitbart radio in 2015 when in the East China Sea was shut down by the Chinese Communist Party, not the South China Sea, the East China Sea was shut down and they shut down rare earths. They threatened rare earth shut off to Japan for its industrial process because of an issue with fishing boats that were really PLA spy boats, vessels. It got pretty gnarly on air rights and navigation rights into the East China Sea. And first time the CCP used rare earths. And if I remember correctly, I think we had a guy named Erik Prince and others on the show. We were doing the Daily show at that time, had him on the Daily Show. We said, this is a very big deal because the Japanese could actually vapor lock on manufacturing. That's what the President faces when he gets back. The reality of the two major conflicts on the Eurasian landmass. One, an advanced military conflict bloodier than the first couple of years of World War II. That would be in Ukraine with no sign of abatement. And President Trump, the empathetic President Trump, which Kurt Mills I think today on the overnight show did such a great job. And President Trump listening, taking an hour, as tired as he must have been to spend an hour with the hostages families, hearing their heart, rendering stories of what they went through as hostages over the last year. President Trump clearly very moved by the slaughter. And that's what it is, the slaughter in Ukraine, with I think now getting close to 2 million dead and wounded on the Ukrainian side, a million to a million and a half wounded on the Russian side. These numbers are just horrific. Something else that President Trump is going to see that I think is going to be a quite big issue. And you know, Kurt Mills is a quite controversial figure, but nobody I've known CURT now for 10, 15 years, he's one of the smartest guys around. He said, hey, because Dave Bratt made this brilliant point about transparency. And over the next couple of days, you're going to see transparency, both on the hostages side of what they really went through, but also as people start getting into Gaza. And the footage we've seen coming out of Gaza is pretty horrific. Kurt Mills referred to it as the world's biggest crime scene. And what's going to happen, because a lot of the media or some of the media haven't been into certain areas of town. There's going to be, I think, as Kurt said, a cyclone of media, and we're going to have to see how it falls out. So on that front, there's a lot more to come. President Trump has to deal with, really two wars, one, an economic war with the Chinese Communist Party, which they're looking for a diverted America because It's one of their basics of their philosophy of military endeavor is a enemy or an opponent that is totally focused on something else. They have a history of striking at that moment. I know the people around President Trump are quite aware of this. Of course, Friday was Zelensky and Tomahawk missile. So once again, a day that starts off with a historic day. And the historic part of this, to be blunt, was what happened in Egypt. And people should take this. You know, President Trump has a very strong personal relationship with Erdogan. Now, I'm not a fan of Erdogan's, but the president thinks very highly of Erdogan, so highly that the President of the United States. Now we know the story. The President of the United States en route, and once he got to Israel, got General El Sisi on the phone, and he's very close to El Sisi. You saw at the beginning how highly he speaks of El Sisi. And this comes from the fact that El Sisi is really the first international figure he met in the 2016 during the UN in the race against Hillary Clinton. And President Trump's the first person he met. And they got along famously. In fact, El Sisi canceled the meeting with Hillary Clinton, said, don't need to see her. I think this guy's going to win. And I like the cut of his jib. He convinced El Sisi to invite. Netanyahu had not been part of this. I think that was part of political reasons. El Sisi just can't be seen having. Given the controversy of Egypt's relationships with Israel in the past and driving peace deals, it's quite controversial. Sadat was assassinated for his role in that. So he was not invited. The president worked El Sisi and El Sisi gave a invitation. Now, we know from reporting from major news sources is that Erdogan was in the air from Turkey. Coming in, Erdogan said, ho, ho, hang on for a second, let me get this right. Netanyahu has been invited. Well, here's what we're going to do. And to the President of the United States, El Sisi. If Netanyahu comes, I'm out. And since the Turks are providing the security force for Gaza. You see where I'm going on this? Am I telegraphing this too much? A total reordering of the Middle east happened today. Not in Jerusalem, it happened in the resort on the shores of the Red Sea in Egypt. What did President Trump say? We're going to put the old feuds and bitter hatreds in back of us. And this is now the new geographic center of the world. He has a very strong relationship with Turkey, with Erdogan, with Egypt, with El Sisi, with the family that runs Qatar very close. He's given him an Article 5 protection. Article 5 protection for Qatar and of course MBZ and UAE. You could tell in the spring meeting. I think MBZ and probably President Trump have the strongest relationship. Those four relationships are all stronger than the one he has with Netanyahu. I know Seb Gorka, my good friend Dr. Seb Gorka I've worked with for years, think very highly of. We do come down on different differently on this topic and he said my comments today were risible about Tel Aviv, Levin and the Israel first crowd. But them is just the facts, Doc. Just a fact. It's very obvious what's happening here. A Palestinian state with 2 million Palestinians is being created in the Gaza Strip with Gulf Emirate money and Turkish arms. This is the Turks who would not come to a meeting if Netanyahu was there. Think about that for a second. Short break. Back in a moment. Let me be blunt. Gold is up around 40% this year. That's not speculation. That is reality. And if a portion of your savings isn't diversified into gold, you're missing the boat. Here's the facts. 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[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Dave Walsh]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Donald Trump]

That's right.

[Steve Bannon]

You can follow all of your favorites. Steve Bannon, Charlie Kirk, Jack Posovic and so many more. Download the Getter app now. Sign up for free and be part of the newfound. I want the audience to remember this and remember this day. The nations of the earth, including the most powerful nations in Western Europe, all of the most powerful nations in the Arab and Muslim world gathered today on the shores of the Red Sea and signed a document. In that document they 20 points of a peace plan. The sign the entire time was peace in the Middle East. This peace plan calls for huge commitments of capital to be invested into the war torn. It's not war torn. Let's say what it is looks like Dresden in 1945. Right. It's really repulsive what Gaza looks like. And as people start going through there, as we say in the Navy, I think you should stand by for some heavy roles because I think on this topic of transparency, what happened to the hostages, terrible. We still don't know about October 7th and the reason we don't know about October 7th is Netanyahu's government has blocked any attempt to have an inquiry, formal inquiry to get to the bottom of it. And as an American citizen I think we should all demand that we know exactly what went on until we buy into any more of what's happening over there. But with the most powerful nations on earth signing a document, a deal, a 20 point deal with huge commitments of financial resources to rebuild a commitment that the 2 million Palestinians will not leave Gaza, will not leave Gaza. They will not be driven out into the Sinai to live in tents or die or Ethiopia or you know, the Horn of Africa. All those crackpot ideas and they were crackpot ideas have all been thrown aside. In addition there's a working of a security guarantee which looks like would not have American troops which obviously we would oppose dramatically. We don't need to do that. There is going to be some coordinating factor from Doha from centcom. In fact the Aberland charges on comm. If you saw today in the footage of at the Knesset they had three or four American generals and an admiral and a couple of generals there they are. I think the CENTCOM commanders are the heads of CENTCOM and aspects of the secretary of the War Department. Pete Hexis was there. That will be part of this. But it will be a, you got to call it what it is. It's kind of an Arab or Muslim legion that will provide the security Coordinated by Turkey, the Ottoman Empire and the Caliphate. And we know what Erdogan is about the Caliphate. Those are just facts. Netanyahu was not invited, not in the room, not in the deal when the negotiation of those points took place. Ambassador Dermer and Ron Dermer is a good man. If you get, if you ever know him, he's, he's a good man. He's obviously one of Netanyahu's top guys. He's been ambassador here, really knows Washington, knows the Trump, knows Jared very well, knows Witkoff, knows the entire, knows Maga, a good man. He was not really part of the negotiations. They really weren't looking for Israel's inputs. And I hate to be so blunt about it, but there's so much happy talk coming out of the Israel first crowd that just doesn't face reality. Reality is you got yourself a two state solution and not just a two state solution, but a two state solution with big time muscle in back of the Palestinians, big time money from the Gulf Emirates and big time security from the combination of Muslim and Arab nations who we've been selling arms to and training their military for decade after decade after decade, including a NATO member, I might add, which is Turkey, that will seize up the same Turkey that at the very mention that Netanyahu was even coming, had been offered an invitation, told him in the air. If that is the case and Netanyahu is coming, I'm turning my jet around even though I'm in Egyptian airspace. I want you to contemplate that to what reality is. That's reality and people can put the spin on it anyway. But what's going to happen in Judea Samaria is not going to be any more Israel if the historic homeland and heart of it, of which I've said, hey, there's a compelling argument there and this is why on a Christian state, which I say, if you don't have a Christian, if you don't have a Christian state within 20 years, I'm not sure you're going to have Israel. Joe Gilbert today, independent filmmaker, a very smart guy about the region and obviously took, he said some things about gazing the Palestinians that are maybe not backed up. And you know, he got called down a little bit by Kurt Mills. They got into it a little bit, that's fine. People have different opinions and maybe garner facts in their own way. But Joe Gilbert's even more, he's more adamant than I am about the political defeat of Netanyahuism in this endeavor. And of course Tel Aviv Levin is out saying about President Trump said about the bombing and the bombing, and the bombing was so central. Come on, man, knock it off. The bombing was not about the bombing was to shut down any chance that Netanyahu would be able to drive President Trump to support regime change and to finish the argument totally of total obliteration. And also Netanyahu not learning his lesson because what he did there was try to decapitate the Iranian command, particularly to kill the negotiators. He didn't want to negotiate a deal. They killed the negotiators. They target the negotiators. Wyckoff couldn't go to a meeting because they were all dead, or at least purported to be dead. I think later it turned out that they all were not dead, but they were targeted. But he killed the Hamas guys weeks later without getting President Trump's authority or even a fare thee well. No, no, no indication. All till the missiles, I think, were airborne. That, as I keep saying, you got to go pretty far in the woods to hit President Trump's tripwire. And that's where it hit it. And the outcome of that is what you saw today, if you wanted the signal that was by the Red Sea, if you wanted the noise, that was what's happening in Israel. It's a celebratory day. But the generations in 67 and 73 that built Israel and took on every Arab army that did sneak attacks from 48 to 67 to 73, they would have never found themselves in this situation. I understand, and particularly President Trump understands because he spent an hour with the families just hearing their stories and sitting there and asking questions so he could hear more. A man that came off an eight hour red eye and had to do one major evolution after the other. He cleared time and actually became very late getting to Egypt to hear their stories. At the end of the day, it was 20 hostages. And I realized Israel's celebrating. And I think that says more about the therapeutic society than the culture they in the United States used to have. Is what I'm saying. Hard and tough? Yes, it's hard and tough. That's one of the reasons I have people watch the film 12 O' Clock High. 12 O' Clock High is one of the hardest movies you'll ever watch about war, where they understand the sacrifices that have to be made. And quite frankly, the sacrifices that you don't get any say so in that you're just going to be. You are expendable. And you're going to be expendable. You're going to be expendable for A greater cause today did change. It was an inflection point in the Middle east, and you're not going to unwind it. You're not going to unwind it. So I think we have to be realistic. But I stick by what I said at the national, National Conservatism Convention. I think I gave the keynote that wrapped it up, or close to wrapping it up in the geopolitical world today, where President Trump has to deal with the bloodlands this week. And is America going to get engaged as a supplier of offensive, become an offensive combatant on the supply side, which changes. Russia's already said, hey, if this thing goes down like this, NATO's open open season, that is going to be a major, major thing that will change this country's life and your life. But that even pales in comparison to what the Chinese Communist Party's doing. The Chinese Communist Party understands they have amazing, they have incredible leverage over us right now. We have said this now for years and years and years. If you've listened to the show that we warned, we have to decouple. And yeah, decouple may, may have a couple of speed bumps in it, but if you don't have decoupled, they're going to put a gun to your head one day when they think they've got you. And President Trump, I think, has already bounced off the 100% terrorist. But I might add, don't take it from Steve Bannon. Let's take it from the market of something that's been a hedge for 5,000 years. Gold. Gold today blew through 4,100. I think it's 4,139. It's up 130 bucks. Blew through $4,100. That is a world of sophisticated investors saying, yo, I think I need part of my assets in physical gold, right? Because we are in very uncertain times geopolitically, financially. And the market's telling you something. Of course, the stock market came back today because President Trump say, I'm not going to hit him with 100% tariffs. But the Chinese Communist Party is playing smash mouth here. They're playing smash mouth. That's basically the way they know how to play. And President Trump put out a true socialist say, hey, look, Xi had a bad day. He and I are friends. We're going to work this out. 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[Donald Trump]

Navy has always been the iron will of a proud and mighty nation. Pushing forward through the currents and through the spray of raging combat and the fog of naval war. From the American Revolution until today, the story of the US Navy is a tale of loyalty, sacrifice and commitment stretching back 250 years, the Navy has never failed to hunt, kill and to win. Through it all, the United States Navy has kept the Stars and Stripes soaring.

[Steve Bannon]

High and proud above.

[Donald Trump]

You've conquered raging oceans and brave ferocious storms to vanquish America's enemies. America's Navy never, ever gives up the ship. We own disguise. We stalk the depths and we rule the seas. God bless the United States Navy. Wow.

[Steve Bannon]

I love that. And Real Clear Defense, which is one of the most prominent sites around aggregation site, sister site to Real Clear Markets and Real Clear Politics. Put up a special on our Navy 250 and put Cleo Pascal, myself and others talking about the geopolitics of the 21st century. I'm going to have Cleo actually with Admiral Masso and others in Philadelphia at the parade and also the dinner tonight for the Navy's 250. We've got my favorite combat historian, Patrick K. O' Donnell joins us. Patrick, walk us through this. You've been in bed with the Marines, by the way. We're doing Marine Corps 250, although the Marine Corps is 10, I think November. We're going to do the Marine Corps 250 this Saturday from Camp Pendleton. We're going to start with the war room at 10am in the morning, Eastern Daylight Time and go all throughout the day. You won't want to miss this. As one of the former Marines that knows Clio very well and watched watched the Navy said tell Bannon the Marines are really looking forward when he does the men's department, department of the Navy. So we love the Marine Corps. It's going to be very special. Already know from the guys putting it on. It's going to be incredible. So, Patrick K. O', Donnell, you've been in bed with the Marines. You know the naval traditions, the importance of the Navy and building the country. The floor is yours, sir.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Well, I have a great article in our in Breitbart on the front page Today on the 250th anniversary of the Navy, which has some very humble origins, a fishing boat that was outfitted to attack the greatest navy in the world at the time, the British Navy. And they went after they went after the supply ships. And it's really a remarkable story. And that begins when Washington arrives in Cambridge in the summer of 1775, and to his utter horror, he realizes that his men only have 30 to 40 cartridges in their cartridge box. They could not repel the British if they attacked out of Boston. It was a very they were very challenged by the lack of gunpowder. First thing he does is actually takes the riflemen that come up and puts them out and demonstrates how accurate they are, these snipers, and then they start taking off British heads, keeping people their heads down. But then he has to come up with an idea on how to get more gunpowder. And he decides to go to the man that's actually guarding his camp, John Glover, who has a number of naval ships they trade across the world. And Glover's mariners have their own ships that they've been trading, you know, for four years. And he decides to outfit one of his fishing boats with four guns and then go after British supply ships. And this ship is called the Hannah. It's the summer of 1775, and this is the humble origins of the United States Navy. And it's all done without congressional approval. Washington authorizes Glover to outfit the boat behind the back of Congress. And Glover is.

[Steve Bannon]

Who is broke.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Exactly. And there's a fascinating story because you are able to own cannons at this time, unlike, you know, what Joe Biden said. And John Glover has a number of cannons that they used on their ships to protect themselves against pirates and other vessels. And there's a kind of great get off my lawn story where in 1773, they. They help with. They create a smallpox hospital in Marblehead. And the loyalists in the town aren't having it. And they surround Glover's house. But he takes one of these four pound guns and puts it in the foyer of his house. As the mob surrounds the house, he orders the front door thrust open. And he has a. A torch in his hand and he says, disperse. And the people, you know, this crowd of loyalists with pitchforks and torches, disperse. That's at the site of.

[Steve Bannon]

That's quite Trumpian. That's maga.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

John Glover, who has this now boat is going out with four pound guns, four of them. And they then attack the. You know, they have a letter of mark, basically. To act as privateers.

[Steve Bannon]

Exactly. Hang on. They were all freebooters and privateer. Privateers. Letters of marque. It's amazing story. Here's. I want people to keep in mind, the Royal Navy as an institution became one of the most powerful and important institutions in world history. It's the way that. And they started as freebooters. They started with Francis Drake and these guys just taking 20% off the top and given the rest of the crown as freebooters. But they built an institution that changed world history and built the British Empire. This is how a small island nation became a global, you know, global dominance. Really a small island nation that didn't have a tremendous maritime history at the time. They kind of learned it and then built an institution. That institution, when you have supply ships, the logistics of it, the coordination. If you go back and look at the world Navy at the time, it ran like a. Like a. Like a Swiss watch. It was so organized and down to everything. I mean, every move, the way. The way the crews worked, the way the officers trained things, the way you had logistics, trains, and you had the. You had the boats that would go and escort. It was highly sophisticated. And here a bunch collection of freebooters with a letter of marque from a government that doesn't really even exist at the Continental Congress in Washington, because the Continental Congress is broke. He's not even looking for. If he goes and asks for money, they're gonna say no. So this is. I'm gonna beg forgiveness, then ask permission. He tells these madmans, just put some guns. Put some guns on the boat and just go out there and take them on.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

They put the guns on the boat and they go after supply ships. And the first ship that they capture is a ship that is manned by British sailors. And they are extremely excited to have their first prize. And they bring it into port and they realize that the British have just. They have recaptured a ship that was owned by a member of Congress, John Langdon. And what happens is Washington is horrified. But the men, these Marbleheaders, have said, look, hey, we barely got it. This was a British ship. That was a prize ship. And what happens is you have one of the first mutinies that takes place, and the crew literally mutinies on board. I tell the story in the Indispensables, and Washington quells it. And then they go back out and they start to hunt. But this is the organ. What's amazing about this story, Steve, is this is the beginning of sovereignty for a. We're not even a United States yet. A collection of states. But when you are starting to build and outfit vessels, you are creating a sovereign nation. A sovereign nation has vessels. The first flag is the appeal to heaven. And that comes from these ships as well. This is Washington's Navy or Washington's cruisers. And it's all done behind Congress for several weeks. And then eventually, on October 13th, today, 250 years ago, Congress makes the authorization to. To outfit armed vessels to go against Great Britain. And it's then that Washington reveals that he has his own secret navy, which then falls.

[Steve Bannon]

But think about it.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

The Continentally.

[Steve Bannon]

Yeah. After Lexington and Concord, after the siege of Boston, Bunker Hill. These guys are smart guys. It's just like the run up to World War I, before Pearl Harbor. These guys. This is 1775, folks. Fourth of July, Independence Day, the Declaration. Signing the declarations. Not till next July 4, in 1776 and then immediately the largest expeditionary forces we have every year on PETER we have Patrick K. O' Donnell on our 4th of July special to talk about what was already coming to Staten island in the, in the vast armada that was going to be there. Patrick we got to bounce. I want everybody Grace, if you can put this story up, everybody go to Breitbart. We're going to put it up for this amazing story.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

It's also on my, my Twitter account at combat historian and Patrick kodonald.com the book is the Indispensables. It tells the story of the first Navy and this is asymmetric warfare. Steve this causes the insurance rates to skyrocket on all commercial vessels and its economic war against Great Britain.

[Steve Bannon]

If you want to read two books back to back, they'll explain the revolution to you like nobody's business. Like you're reading a novel, Washington's Immortals about that amazing regiment coming out of coming out of Maryland. And then the indispensables. Just incredible about the men of Marblehead. The cussedness, the cussedness and grit. We stand on the shoulders of giants. When you read these books, you're in awe virtually every page. PATRICK K. O' Donnell one more time, where's your social media?

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Where do people go get you ombathistorian on X and getter and patrickkodonnell.com youm can also order the books. They're bestsellers. We're almost at 2000 five star reviews for the indispensables on Amazon.com come on man. It's been a runaway bestseller.

[Steve Bannon]

It's amazing. We, we got, we got, we got to get 5,000 five star. It's a classic. Thank you sir.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Appreciate you honored. Thank you.

[Steve Bannon]

Steve to go from something you should be very proud of about your country, kind of the grit of the American, you know, working man and woman building this country to something that you're not going to, not going to love. Here's what I don't get. Dave Walsh they're telling me that if you backed out data center investment that GDP would only be like 0.1%. I don't totally believe that. But everything as you warned us on AI, on the AI bubble or the AI job apocalypse is driven by energy. And maybe water is a subset, but energy, what is going on? We got a governor's race in New Jersey that's going to come down I think to about energy and out of control energy prices that are runaway and down in Florida you still haven't sorted out that Mess with Florida Power and Light, sir.

[Dave Walsh]

They're working on it now. The, the data center, I think the tip of the spear in the country for the moment is Virginia, northern Virginia, Pennsylvania over to New Jersey and Maryland, northern Washington, where you've got the biggest concentration of AI in data centers. And now this battle and the growth of AI between ratepayers who are short of electricity in PJM that those states are in PJM. Ford auction prices up by a factor of 10 times for electric power because of the existing shortage of electricity. Now you've got AI owners demanding gigawatt, thousand megawatt, 2,000 megawatt generation facilities to be built to steal electrification resources from ratepayers. So you get a big battle and it comes, it comes to the fore in the electricity rates. New Jersey looks like going up by a factor of four times. Maryland by a factor of potentially 50% in the next couple of years. And even Pennsylvania in a region particularly full of natural gas because of this domination now of demand on top of the existing shortage we've been talking about for three years due to solar and wind shortage now accelerated by AI data centers.

[Steve Bannon]

Hang on one second. I want to hold you through the break when we get to this because this is what's going to drive people into bankruptcy. Birch Gold. Take your phone out. Text Bannon at 989-898. Get the Ultimate Guide for investing in gold and precious metals in the age of Trump. Gold blew through 4,100 bucks today, folks. And I mean blew through, through it. You need to understand why that is happening.

[Patrick K. O'Donnell]

Short break.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Dave Walsh]

According to the state Office of Public Counsel who I speak to periodically, a record number of interveners and complainers have stepped up about the present $10 billion rate case, an all time national record high rate case that FPNL have pushed forward for the next four years now reduced to 7 billion. So some progress is being made. But that's about building 130 more utility scale solar farms at a cost of about 7,7 billion at this point for the next four years, the next 10 years, the three regulated utilities, Duke FPL and TECO Tampa Electric have a plan to build $49 billion worth of solar farms and utility scale battery storage which if it were combined cycle would cost less than half of that to build natural gas fired power that runs all the time. But no, they're opting for the far more expensive capital cost, two and a half times more costly capital cost solar and battery storage to make more money through their rates they get a 10 and a half to 11% rate recovery on capital investments. And the more they invest, of course, the more they make. And they're opting for between the two choices, solar and gas. They're opting for solar, which is very part time here, five hours, five hours a day and ruins reliability and also ruins the opportunity for data centers and service centers unless they deploy some of the very large number of gas turbines that they've ordered already from GE Vernova, which is adding to the shortage of those, the fact that Southeast Utilities have bought a record number of gas turbines in the last 10 months from the major three OEMs, but they're not deploying them for ratepayers. They're waiting for AI and data center clients to come along and then go.

[Steve Bannon]

Ahead and use them. Wow.

[Dave Walsh]

Created by the utilities who bought them up, waiting for AI to come.

[Steve Bannon]

Okay.

[Dave Walsh]

It's a huge problem.

[Donald Trump]

We got.

[Dave Walsh]

We got complicated problem.

[Steve Bannon]

I'm g. Get you back, I'm going get you back on here because we need to help the folks down in Florida get organized in this because it's unacceptable. Here's the question. I got people know I'm not a big Ron Defense DeSantis fan. On a national level, it's presidential timber. And we said this when he tried to challenge President Trump in that ridiculously failed effort to try to deny President Trump the nomination. But I think he's been a very good governor. Ron DeSantis is kind of a populist. Where's DeSantis in this? I can't, I can't believe with a governor like DeSantis we couldn't solve this thing in 10 minutes. Where's Ron DeSantis, the populist governor of Florida on this, sir?

[Dave Walsh]

Well, to hold to account during his administration, the entire seven years of it, every single submittal before the public Service Commission for new capacity power has been for utility scale solar. Every single one of them has been approved going away by the public Service Commission appointed by him. So he's, he is certainly aware of this. If he's not, he's stupid. And he's not stupid. He's aware of it.

[Steve Bannon]

Does this. DeSantis is a very smart guy. You're telling me he's bought into this whole solar madness? You're telling me he's bought into the solar madness or is this because this is where the power company is going to make more money?

[Dave Walsh]

This is related to the donations to PACs from the power companies. They dominate politics in Florida. Duke Tico and FPL dominate the state House, the state Senate and the governor through pact donations. So they basically get their way on.

[Steve Bannon]

Dave, I'm gonna have you back on real quickly. Social media.

[Dave Walsh]

Where do people go extra social and get her a Dave Walsh Energy. I'll be at the right Republican Club in north South Florida in Collier county on Thursday evening at 5:30 on the same matter. And then next month in the heart of Florida, Republican women at DeLand up in late November. So continue to. We're gonna talk.

[Steve Bannon]

We'll push this. We'll push. We'll push the Thursday one heart. Mike Lindell joins us by phone. Michael and Dell, give us a deal, brother.

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[Steve Bannon]

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