Episode 4849: World Leaders Fear Trump; Under Siege A Fight To Save The Nation

Summary

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Bannon’s War Room Episode 4849

Title: World Leaders Fear Trump; Under Siege, A Fight To Save The Nation
Date: October 14, 2025
Host: Stephen K. Bannon
Notable Guests: Eric Trump, Jim Rickards, Jason, Nicole, Ken, Lindsey Halligan

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on the current state of U.S. politics under President Donald Trump’s new term, the global implications of his leadership, and the ongoing domestic battle against what the hosts describe as a corrupt political and media establishment. The discussion unfolds against the backdrop of Trump’s recent international diplomatic achievements—most notably, a groundbreaking Middle East peace framework—as well as Eric Trump’s new book “Under Siege.” Bannon and his guests contend that the Trump family’s continued perseverance symbolizes a wider American fight to reclaim the nation’s institutions and future.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Use of Power & the Domestic “Insurrection”

• Concern Over Insurrection Act:
  Nicole recounts a 2019 incident where President Trump considered invoking the Insurrection Act to deploy the military, using the border as a “pretext.” She claims this desire to wield force against perceived threats has persisted for years.
  • “Trump wanted to go deploy it and use the border as his pretext…These excuses are exactly that. They are excuses.” (Nicole, [00:51])
• Weaponization of Government Allegations:
  The team discusses recent firings within the Justice Department, especially under new leadership with apparent loyalty to Trump but no prosecutorial background.
  • “She was not on board with the case against James Comey…She’s been removed…as part of a series of four firings…” (Nicole & Ken, [02:28])

2. Fear and Labeling of Opposition

• Targeting Political Enemies:
  The administration is said to go after not just high-profile figures like Bolton or Comey but also “heretofore innocent people.”

  • “People should not stop living their lives because the moment they start cowering in advance…he is simply empowered to do this against anyone else.” (Jason, [01:45])

• Definition of ‘Antifa’ and Protesters:
  Jason argues that the administration equates support for democracy with being “antifa,” suggesting a strategy of labeling broader opposition as enemies or terrorists.

  • “The idea of going after antifa is like saying we’re going after dog lovers.” (Jason, [04:16])

• Encouragement to Maintain Democratic Norms:
  Despite administration threats, people are urged to protest peacefully:

  • “If we allow this administration to label everything an enemy of the state…then this administration has already won.” (Jason, [05:07])

3. International Implications: “World Leaders Fear Trump”

• Middle East Peace Framework:
  Stephen K. Bannon credits Trump with unprecedented diplomatic progress, positioning his directness and willingness to work with strongmen as an asset.
  • “Other presidents probably would not be feared as much as Donald Trump.” (Bannon, [05:45])
• U.S.-Israel-Egypt Relations:
  Bannon highlights Trump’s ability to corral reluctant leaders (Erdogan, Qatari leadership) and claims the Middle East is more united under Trump than even during historic revolts.
  • “President Trump has united the Arabs more than T.E. Lawrence during the Arab revolt in the First World War.” (Bannon, [11:40])
• Strategic Priorities:
  Bannon outlines three international priorities: internal insurrection, hemispheric defense (Monroe Doctrine 2.0), and standing up to China and Russia.
  • “Those are the four that matter…This is the main event.” (Bannon, [13:19])

4. Eric Trump: “Under Siege” and the Trump Family’s Ordeal

• Family Perseverance:
  Eric Trump discusses the family’s unity under constant attack and frames their battle as symbolic of a broader national struggle.

  • “We didn’t ask for the battle…we never ran from it either…we only had each other.” (Bannon reading Eric’s book, [16:18])

• Vindication through Public Service:
  Eric asserts the struggle was worth it, especially in light of recent global recognition of Trump’s role in advancing peace.

  • “Everybody’s happy and America has its standing back…It made every arrow we took…it made it all worth it.” (Eric Trump, [19:58])

• Moments of Despair and Faith:
  The family faced existential threats, from courtroom battles to assassination attempts, but were sustained by faith and a sense of divine providence.

  • “There were these highs and lows, Steve, that I can’t even…tell you...God came through in the story in a very big way.” (Eric Trump, [24:49])

• Providential Figure and Historical Parallels:
  Both Bannon and Eric compare Trump’s journey to figures like Washington, Lincoln, and Cincinnatus, emphasizing destiny and moral fortitude.

  • “No one’s stronger…no person I have ever met in my life even compares to that man and his courage.” (Eric Trump, [32:48])

5. Shifts in National Attitude: From War to Peace

• American Psyche and Foreign Policy:
  Eric Trump discusses the shift from glorifying war to valuing peace, asserting Trump has ended “seven or eight wars” and is celebrated globally for it.
  • “Peace is actually being glorified in the world for the first time ever…a lot of people are saying this is senseless.” (Eric Trump, [37:07])
• Critique of the Military-Industrial Complex:
  Calls to end U.S. policing of the world and focus on domestic investment.

6. Trump as a Figure of Destiny

• The Mythos of the Comeback:
  Bannon insists Trump’s second term is not mere politics but a necessary chapter in the American story, framing the systemic opposition as proof of his importance.
  • “It’s destiny…The American story demands that it’s Trump.” (Bannon, [35:35])
• Courage and Sacrifice:
  Trump’s willingness to face imprisonment and the destruction of his family for public good is repeatedly emphasized as unmatched moral courage.
  • “If I don’t fight it, we’re not going to have a republic.” (Bannon, [32:02])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The idea of going after antifa is like saying we’re going after dog lovers.”
  (Jason, [04:16])
• “President Trump has united the Arabs more than T.E. Lawrence during the Arab revolt in the First World War.”
  (Steve Bannon, [11:40])
• “If we allow this administration to label everything an enemy of the state…then this administration has already won.”
  (Jason, [05:07])
• “We didn’t ask for the battle that was brought to our doorstep…but we never ran from it either.”
  (Eric Trump’s book, read by Bannon, [16:18])
• “There were these highs and lows, Steve…God came through in the story in a very big way.”
  (Eric Trump, [24:49])
• “No one’s stronger. No person I have ever met in my life even compares to that man and his courage.”
  (Eric Trump, [32:48])
• “It’s destiny…The American story demands that it’s Trump.”
  (Steve Bannon, [35:35])

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Important Timestamps

• [00:51-03:37]: Nicole and Ken discuss the origins of Trump’s aggression and recent firings in Justice.
• [04:16-05:45]: Jason and Bannon on protests, labeling, and the administration’s rhetoric.
• [05:45-08:01]: Bannon gives a sweeping assessment of Trump’s international impact and leadership style.
• [16:18-27:54]: Eric Trump, on his book “Under Siege,” discusses the family’s travails, courts, and moments of faith.
• [32:48-37:07]: Eric Trump and Bannon on the spiritual and historical dimensions of Trump's presidency.
• [37:07-39:23]: Eric Trump on the newly “glorified” value of peace and American foreign policy.
• [40:36-41:49]: Book promotion, closing endorsements of Eric Trump’s “Under Siege.”

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Tone & Style

The episode is passionate, combative, and deeply personal. Bannon and Eric Trump foreground themes of persecution, providence, and triumph against insurmountable odds. International affairs are framed not as sideshows but as vital arenas for American strength—though always secondary to the existential domestic struggle. There is frequent invocation of religious destiny and references to historical figures, lending a grand, historical sweep.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode of Bannon’s War Room is a sweeping tour through the current Trump era, both defending and celebrating his domestic crackdown on perceived enemies and his international power plays. Through emotional accounts from Eric Trump—and commentary from Steve Bannon—the episode paints the Trump family as battle-tested patriots, facing down both deep state opposition and historical destiny.

The conversation covers fears of executive overreach, mass firings in the Justice Department, accusations of weaponized government, and a redefinition of American priorities from endless war to enduring peace. All of this is interwoven with promotion of Eric Trump’s book "Under Siege," described as a chronicle of their family’s fight and the nation's last stand.

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Further Information

• Eric Trump’s Book: "Under Siege" available on Amazon and major retailers.
• Upcoming Coverage: Presidential Medal of Freedom awarded posthumously to Charlie Kirk (4:00pm on Real America’s Voice).
• Ongoing Watch: Developments in South America, Ukraine, China, and implementation of the Insurrection Act.

Transcript

[Eric Trump]

It's.

[Nicole]

It's a presidential crack town looking for a pretext. And Donald Trump has been in search of that pretext for seven or eight years. If J.D. vance wanted to be honest with the American people, and he knows this, he's a smart guy. I know he knows this, he could just say, you know what, guys? The real truth is my boss, who I'm a heartbeat away from, really just wants to go deploy the military in places to create violence, to create. To justify a wider crackdown. Because I can tell you firsthand, Nicole, just before the State of the union in 2019, we stood in the map Room of the White House, and Donald Trump almost spontaneously brought up the idea of weaving a couple of sentences into the speech, announcing he was invoking the Insurrection Act. You can't imagine the panic on the faces in that room. And Donald Trump was just a few moments away from just telling the guy who sits at the teleprompter to write it into the speech. And we had to go spend the rest of the day convincing White House Counsel's office to stand up to the President to get him not to do it. But that's how long this has been going on. And Trump wanted to go deploy it and use the border as his pretext. It doesn't matter what they say. This is not about street crime. And by the way, if it was about street crime, you don't need to use the United States military to crack down on street crime. You can increase the number of police on the streets. You can do any number of things. These excuses are exactly that. They are excuses. The Vice President knows it, and it's why, Nicole, by the way, I think you watch him in those video clips, and he has a really tough time defending this because the defenses are so completely threadbare.

[Ken]

Former Trump National Security Adviser John Bolton reportedly could be next. And investigations have been opened into other targets, including California Senator Adam Schiff, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, and former CIA Director John Brennan.

[Jason]

A current administration that is attacking heretofore innocent people, people who have committed no crimes, people whose only crime exists in the mind of the President, United States, because they attempted to do their jobs before he was in his current position of authority. The last thing you would want anyone to do, whether it's Comey, whether it's Bolton, whether it's Tish James, whether it's anybody else, whether it's a dog catcher who let their dog pee on Trump's yard, and now he wants to go after them because he's unhappy. These people should not stop living their lives because the moment they start cowering in advance, he, he is simply empowered to do this against anyone else.

[Ken]

So, Ken, this latest move involves Halligan removing a senior prosecutor in Virginia.

[Nicole]

What can you tell us?

[Lindsey Halligan]

Good morning, Mika. Yes, Lindsey Halligan has removed, as we understand it, the first deputy in the office, a woman named Maggie Cleary, who appeared to have pretty good maga bona fides. She had been a local prosecutor then she had been a federal prosecutor in the Western District of Virginia. She was falsely accused of being present at the January 6 riot. And she said that that experience had sort of made her aware of what she called the weaponization of government. And she had been. She'd made a bid to be the U.S. attorney in the Eastern District, but settled on being the first assistant. But we are told that she was not on board with the case against James Comey, the prosecution of James Comey for lying to Congress. She did not accompany Lindsey Halligan into the grand jury to present that case. And now we are told she's been removed from her job and sent somewhere else in the Justice Department. And that's part of a series of four firings that have taken place in the Eastern District since Lindsey Halligan has taken power there. And remember Lindsey Halligan, Donald Trump's former defense attorney, no prosecutorial experience. She had been an insurance lawyer, and now she's in charge of one of the most important U.S. attorney's offices in the United States.

[Ken]

Here, administration officials start using that word.

[Steve Bannon]

A whole lot more.

[Ken]

There's the executive order, there's that roundtable. Jason, what's the purpose of all of this? Are they trying to lay the groundwork for something?

[Jason]

Well, they're not laying the groundwork. They're doing it already. They have already released essentially a secret police force, you know, barely armed, non identified officers jumping out of vans and kidnapping people. That's what we already have happening with ice. So this isn't laying the groundwork. This is paving something and painting over a street that's already been laid down. But I think it's important to remember, just like we can't call Tish, James or Comey foes or Trump.

[Eric Trump]

They're not foes.

[Jason]

They're just people living their lives. The idea of going after antifa is like saying we're going after doggle lovers. Who doesn't love dogs. If you're a United States citizen, right, and you like democracy, then you don't like fascism. Everybody who loves democracy is technically antifa. So the idea that they're Going after antifa. They're going after the core of what makes Americans. These are just words that this administration makes up to justify their authoritarian encroachment. So.

[Steve Bannon]

But should be surprised by these planning.

[Jason]

I'm not surprised by what they're doing.

[Ken]

But, Jason, for people who are planning to head to these rallies, when they hear the administration start to use this word to label people who might appear, protest peacefully on Saturday, that they're going to label them as terrorists. And we know from reporting that this administration is looking at invoking the Insurrection Act. Should people be afraid right now?

[Jason]

No more afraid than anybody in journalism. When he said we're the enemies of the state. Look, this is an administration that threatens everybody. If you respond to threats in advance, then they've already won. So people have a right to protest. They should go out and protest safely and peacefully as much as they can. They should look out for provocateurs and infiltrators within those protests. Americans need to keep living the democratic lives and norms that we've already had. If we allow this administration to label everything an enemy of the state, if we allow this administration to label what are regular known constitutional rights as threats to this country or threats to his particular power, then this administration has already won.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

There was a very telling moment where Donald Trump said that he actually got along better with some of the strong men that he was up on stage with and the democratically elected leader, something that many people have been observing for a decade now. But as you saw the president up there with Erdogan from Turkey, with the leaders of Qatari, with support from Egypt, support from the Saudis, support from strongmen around the region, it does seem that in a sense, that Donald Trump was singular, in a sense empty, that, that most other presidents would not have not only dealt with those leaders the way he did, as aggressively as he did, but to my mind, other presidents probably would not be feared as much as Donald Trump. And as I looked at the assemblage up there, I did understand that a lot of that was going on because people's fear of Donald Trump. The old saying, you know, better to be feared than loved, not something that I've always wanted to see in a leader, but for the purpose of yesterday, where you saw Erdogan meekly to his left and the Qatari leader meekly to his right, the shoe fit there.

[Jim Rickards]

This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

[Steve Bannon]

Pray for our enemies, because we're going.

[Eric Trump]

Medieval on these people.

[Jim Rickards]

You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.

[Nicole]

I know you try to do everything.

[Jim Rickards]

In the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

[Steve Bannon]

And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and.

[Jim Rickards]

What is my purpose?

[Steve Bannon]

If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

[Stephen K. Bannon]

War Room here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

[Steve Bannon]

It's Tuesday the 14th of October in the year of our Lord 2025 is the 32nd second birthday, or would have been the 32nd birthday for Charlie Kirk, one of the most extraordinary individuals in modern political history and clearly one of the most extraordinary individuals in his generation. This afternoon at approximately 4 o' clock and we'll cover this on Real America's Voice. I think it will take place during the Eric Bolling show, but in all likelihood we'll roll over into the afternoon edition of the War Room. We will cover the awarding to Charlie Kirk's widow and family the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is the highest civilian award that you can receive in our country by the President of the United States. The president of the United States yesterday did a day trip that will be one of the most historic days in any presidency in bringing peace to the Middle east or framework for peace that can actually be executed upon. He came back last night. I think he got back and landed at the White house off Marine One at 2:48 or 2:50 in the morning a.m. that is a brutal schedule. And what he did yesterday, particularly what he did in Egypt, you have to understand the signal from the noise, the Israel part of it was basically to tell Bibi Netanyahu and company with all the, you know, nice remarks that were made that you don't make decisions and you're never going to make decisions for the United States of America again. You are a protectorate and you will act accordingly. The meeting in Egypt was quite frankly, stunning. President Trump's camaraderie, his just the energy that he got along. And those are tough hombres and we have big issues with those hombres, particularly with Tel Aviv. Levin is calling for a new global war on terror. I'm a huge believer that we can don't have to go to war and actually go to kinetic on that. If we take care of business by declaring the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization and then making sure we get to the financing and ensure that the two countries I have warned for years are the greatest threat to Israel. Turkey and Qatar, which are now the centerpieces of this deal, make sure that they sign on for the that Israel is going to be a Jewish state and going to be a Jewish state in the future. And I think you can do that. I think President Trump's the only guy can do that. But yesterday in Egypt, all the nations of the earth are the ones, you know, 25, including Hungary, France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom, plus the Arab nations and the Muslims. Indonesia came as far as Indonesia. Extraordinary. As I said, told the Daily Telegraph the other day, President Trump has united the Arabs more than T.E. lawrence during the Arab revolt in the First World War, which really was the first cohesive action they had ever had together, except these warring tribes against each other. And much. And it can be so positive coming out of the Middle East. Now, let me reiterate, the Middle east is a sideshow to the main event, and the Israel situation in Gaza is a sideshow to a sideshow. I said this is the National Conservative Convention and I've been proven right once again. Now, where's the main event? Well, in that cold, that brilliant cold open put together by our team, you see it, number one is the invasion of our country that is still not, is still not stopped. President Trump stopped it at the border 100%. But we have, I don't know, 10 to 20 million illegal alien invaders that came here on Biden's watch. Not Biden's watch, just from the 20th of January, 2021 to the day he left the office this past January. They have to be removed from the country. This is what this whole fight is, whether it's in Chicago or Portland. And this no Kings rally this weekend, and of course, the execution, implementation, invoking of the Insurrection act, the fight here is just beginning. And of course, when the Marxist jihadist is elected, I might add with 30% of Jewish people voting for him, at least in Manhattan, this fight's only going to metastasize because then the Marxist jihadists are going to control the political apparatus of the financial capital of the world. Three meetings day. Okay, so Milei is coming at one o'. Clock. We're doing a $20 billion bailout of Argentina. There's a lot of questions that have to be asked by that. Really appreciate that, Scott Bessens in front of this, but it's a $20 billion bailout of a guy that I've said from day one, never had him on the show, never talked about the show because I think he's kind of a kook. But obviously this is central to hemispheric defense. So number one, you have internally the internal insurrection. We have to put down, the invasion we have to repel. Number two, you have hemispheric defense, Monroe Doctrine 2.0. Number three, Zelinsky's at the White House on Friday to talk about America, the United States giving him offensive weapons capability. And oh, by the way, even as we speak, gold is blown through $4,100. Why is that? Because the Asian markets are down, the European markets are down, the US Market's about to start down because the Chinese Communist Party said last night, hey, we appreciate President Trump saying, maybe, you know, she's a good guy, maybe we got to work it out, but we will fight you to the death to the end. On trade, as they try to lock down what we call heavy rare earths and cripple not simply American defense industry, but all American production industry, including automobiles. Those are the four that matter. They're not the sideshow or a sideshow to a sideshow. This is the main event. And what happens over this week and the following weeks on these topics. Hemispheric defense, the invasion of our country, the situation in the bloodlands in Ukraine. The bloodlands, the Ukraine war, and the Chinese Communist Party in both capital markets and in commerce will define the first half of the 21st century.

[Jim Rickards]

Short break.

[Steve Bannon]

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[Jim Rickards]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Jim Rickards]

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[Steve Bannon]

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[Jim Rickards]

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[Steve Bannon]

Welcome back. I'm going to have according to President Trump, and I'm quoting President Trump, Eric Trump may be the most subpoenaed human being in the history of our country. Eric never once left my side, but stood tall, unshaken and unbroken. Eric Trump joins us. Eric, I want to just for a moment, read from this. It's a masterpiece. It's a classic, number one. It's so action oriented and so, you know, moment by moment, you're kind of hanging because people don't know the inside story, but it's also beautifully written. I want to read from the moment that Eric Trump and his father and the family, because this is about a family unit, understood they had won the presidency and had revenge on the stolen election of 2020. Under siege but never broken. There were moments, many of them, when the night seemed endless, the noise deafening, the weight of history unbearable. We didn't ask for the battle that was brought to our doorstep. We didn't choose the persecution or the hatred that tried to divide not only our family, but this great country. But we never ran from it either. Over the past 10 years, we stood tall, not just as individuals, but as a family. A family that refused to bend, refused to retreat into the background and refused to let the soul of America be rewritten. For the first time in American political history, it wasn't just one man running for office. It was a family effort. Not because we wanted it that way, but because we had no other choice. Because at the end of the day, we only had each other. And through it all, through every firestorm and every late night war room, we held on to three things. Our love for God, our love for country, and our love for the Constitution. These were our compass. These were our guides. Eric Trump joins me now. Talk to me about that. That is a magnificent passage that really, it's at the end of the book, but it kind of flashes back over the 10 year kind of epic journey that you and the family take, sir.

[Eric Trump]

You know, Steve, there's a lot of people that write books, right? And there's a lot of people who use ghostwriters and go out and I wrote every, every word of this book. I mean, I wrote every single word. I deeply care about this mission. In fact, I'll, I'll tell you this in terms of return on time is probably the worst thing I've ever done because I put so much time into it.

[Jason]

I.

[Eric Trump]

Again, I. I care so much. They tried to destroy us. And the world needs to know about it. But when I say us, I'm not just talking about me. I'm not just talking about my father. I'm not just talking about our family. We were the tip of the spear. But listen, they tried to destroy you, Steve. I mean, there's very few people who took as many arrows as you did. And they tried to destroy so many people watching us right now. I mean, we were the siege. All of us right here were the siege. And we won. And we won against the greatest corrupt media this country has ever seen. We won against the establishment. We won against the DOJ and the FBI and everybody who was trying to take us down, people who were spying on our campaigns, people who are making up dirty dossiers. We won against the Clinton family. We won against the Obamas who are making up Russiagate. As you see every single day coming out. We won against, you know, Robert Mueller and Jack Smith and Letitia James, and, you know, I could go down the list. We won. And it's you that won. It's us that's won. And by default, it's our nation that won. And I mean every word of that. What were we fighting for? Right? We're a. We're a family that did not need to do this. And what were we fighting for? We were fighting for a constitution. We were fighting for religion. We were fighting to keep, you know, men out of women's sports. We are fighting to end DEI and wokeness that was destroying our companies and our culture in this country. We were trying to restore the family values and the American dream and the United States military and everything that makes our nation great. That's what we were fighting against. And we were fighting against unthinkable evil. I mean, unthinkable corruption, unthinkable evil, unthinkable amounts of cheating. And that's really what the book Under Siege is all about. Our mutual victory. And Steve, it's so ironic that the book comes out on a day like today, right? A day where we just had Middle east peace, right? People come up to me all the time. They say, eric, was it worth it? You became the most appenant person in American history for not doing anything wrong. You've never had a traffic ticket, right? Nothing wrong. Was it worth it? I mean, why would you have put. And then I watched my father get on that stage in Israel, and then I see him fly over to Egypt and I see all the worldwide leaders around him, and they're all praising him. They're saying, you know what? Thank you. You stopped war, you stopped death, you stopped destruction. Thank you, Mr. President. And by the way, this isn't like a conflict where like, you know, one person's happy and another person's, like, distraught, right? Whether you had a victor and you had a, you know, you had a loser. This is a conflict where everybody came out of it as winners and the world is coalescing around, you know, around peace and prosperity. They're doing it together. And everybody's happy and everybody's rejoicing. And America has their standing back. And the fact that Under Siege is coming out on a day like today, it made every arrow that we took, it made every bullet we took. It made the hundreds of millions of dollars that we had to spend in legal fees to defend ourselves. It made it all worth it. We live in the greatest country in the world. Our standing is back. And I could not be more proud of my father. He's so. I mean, what a job the guy has done.

[Steve Bannon]

If you look at yesterday, we had. We've played twice now, the President coming back at 3:00 in the morning. I mean, first off, just, we did, we covered here in real America's Voice and War Room. Sunday, we decided to do the whole thing live. So we saw him take off and it was a day trip. We were live at 2:00 in the morning, he gets off the plane, he does all that great, all the great events, including staying with the hostages, parents and families for an hour and not making that a big TV production, just sitting there passing the microphone and listening to their stories in that great speech in the Knesset. Then to Egypt. Everything he had to do in Egypt, the great talk he gave in Egypt, the signing of the document and then the fly back and get at 3 o' clock in the morning and, oh, today it's just milei on a $20 billion financing for hemispheric defense for Argentina. And then the Charlie Kirk presidential. I mean, the energy, the key part of the book. I want you to talk about this scene. I don't want to give too much away from the book because I want everybody to read this and I want people to share it. And this is a perfect Christmas gift, particularly people in your family that if you mention Donald Trump's name, they spit on the floor. They're the ones who need to read this when you get in the car, I think was in New York, we think, and the president turns to you or the. Your father turns to you and says, because you're there every day with him and says, hey, it's going to be one of two things. It's either back to the White House, I'm going to win, or it's going to be jail. Right? That is such a powerful moment. Tell us about it.

[Eric Trump]

I wouldn't leave his side. I mean, Steve, I would not leave his side. And by the way, I hate that as a business guy, like, I felt powerless right there. You just feel powerless in courtrooms. But I would not leave his side. You know, he had to have somebody that loved him right next to him. And I went to that courtroom every single day. I drove down with him in the morning. I came back with him in the afternoon. And by the way, because my father was gagged so oftentimes, Steve, I was the guy that was out there on the courthouse steps yelling and screaming to the media about what a sham this whole trial was, right? I mean, my father got convicted of 34 felonies by a judge who had a daughter who was, like, one of the largest digital fundraisers of the Democratic Party, and the guy wouldn't recuse himself. It was crazy. The whole trial was crazy. But that whole point was crazy. But. So 34 felony convictions get read aloud. We've overturned every single one of them since. But I'll never forget, he stood up, turned around. I was the first person to just obviously, right there, shook my hand. We walked out proudly, but we were in the car. And he goes, honey, I'm not sure how, but I'm going to win this thing. We're going to win this thing, you know. And he meant, obviously, the case, overturning the case, but he also meant the, you know, the presidency. And I said, dad, it's either, you know, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. It's either the White House or we're both in jail. I mean, that was like the dichotomy of life, right? There were these moments. There were these highs and lows. There were these highs and lows, Steve, that I can't even, you know, I mean, Butler was one of them, where, you know, I see my father's head almost get taken off by the gunman, right? And then exactly, you know, two days later, exactly 48 hours later, I was a Republican delegate, you know, I was the, you know, the delegate from Florida that was otherwise, you know, voting in Florida to make my father the Republican nominee for president of the United States, right? You had these weird highs and lows in this entire process. But that car ride, listen, it's either going to be the White House or they're going to lock us up and they're going to put us in jail. You know, that's what they wanted. And, you know, God came through in the story in a very big way. And I don't say that lightly. Like, we always felt this presence where we were being guided and we were being protected. And every single day you had one of these super dark moments, man. There would be this little light, you know, and it would shine, this little opening, this, you know, this sea would part. And all of a sudden, there was an opportunity, there was hope, there was energy. I can't tell you how many times we felt that, but I felt that. You know, I felt that in the car. I felt that after Butler. And, yeah, that was an amazing moment. I mean, it shows how fragile this process was. It was either 1600 Pennsylvania or I truly believe they would have locked us up for doing nothing wrong. But just because that's how weaponized the system had become.

[Steve Bannon]

It comes through in the book. But do you believe your father's a providential figure, that God works through him as an instrument?

[Eric Trump]

Yeah, I do. I do. And the first time it really kind of came to my attention was from maybe an unlikely source. It was Mike Huckabee. It was during the 2016 debates, the primaries. Mike Huckabee was on that stage, and I was behind stage at one of the debates. And he comes up to me and he goes, eric, I can feel the hand of God on your father's shoulder. And I think he's going to win this entire thing. Now, this is somebody that was running against my father at the time, right? I mean, he was saying this against his own interest. And he goes, I can just feel it. I feel like he's being guided into doing something really remarkable for the world. And, you know, it's kind of ironic that Haqibi is on that stage yesterday, obviously, as ambassador to Israel, you know, and we have the greatest peace deal of all. But I felt it at Butler. I felt it when we beat Hillary Clinton. I mean, Steve, we didn't know what the hell we were doing. You were there in the first place, you know, campaign side by side with me virtually every day. I mean, you know, I didn't know what a damn delegate was like. I built skyscrapers for a living. I really, really good at building tall buildings, right? Probably better than anybody. Same with golf courses, commercial buildings, et cetera. We didn't know a delegate. I remember you and I mean, this is a true story. Like, you literally asked me to call all the delegates from the state of Pennsylvania, a state that I knew very well because we were winning all these states. But Ted Cruz was like eating our lunch in terms of the delegates because we didn't realize we had to wine and dine these people because this was not like, like, what do you mean you can win a state, you can win the vote of a state and still not like pull ahead quickly in terms of the actual, you know, delegate count, you know, and so we didn't know what, that, we didn't know what the hell we were doing. And yes, somehow Hillary Clinton, who was the greatest political dynasty, right. It was, it was 100%. I mean, God was with us. Absolutely.

[Steve Bannon]

Eric Hanger, one second. You're gracious enough to spend the night next block with us. The book is under siege by Eric Trump. This book will open number one in the New York Times bestseller. It sold so many copies, I can't stop it. But we need everybody in this audience to buy a copy and buy one for a friend who may not be maga. That's who needs to read this book.

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[Steve Bannon]

I agree 100% with Eric Trump that the 2016. That's when I became evident to me that President Trump was a providential figure because we had a plane, we had a message and we had a man. We didn't have a lot of organization, we had no money, and we were going up against one of the toughest political dynasties going the Clinton Mafia. But Eric, and this is why this book is important, to be purchased by everybody in the MAGA movement and read it, but also share it or have more importantly, buy a couple extra copies and give it to people that are not MAGA and people that don't understand President Trump. There's no book about his presidency that can get you to understand the man in the character of the man better than this book. And here's why I make the case all the time that Trump is a providential figure. And the stealing of the 2020 election, which was stolen, and President Trump's decision to come back, understanding that all the subpoenas were going to come for Eric Trump, understanding they were going to try to destroy the family, understanding they were going to try to put him in prison, understanding they wouldn't, they've done everything possible, including stealing a presidential election, to keep him from the White House, that they would do everything to make sure he never returned. And that's why this book shows you the character in, as I call President Trump, the American Cincinnatus. Just like the famous Roman general that returned from the plow to save the Roman Republic. Again, Trump, you read this book. The odds are so are so long when you read the book, Eric, of a potential comeback, because the entire force of corporate America, the entire force of the technology industry, the entire force of the Capitol, Wall street, and particularly the government and the state and this radical Democratic Party and their donors, it all converges to not simply make sure he can't return to the White House, but to destroy the family, to set an example that anybody else that steps out of line. We don't care how famous you are or we don't care how powerful you are. We don't care how wealthy you are. We don't care how people like you or consider you good people. It doesn't matter. You will be destroyed. That is what comes through the pages of this and leading up to Butler, you understand that the story of Trump the American Cincinnatus could not be written unless you had to go through this. That is why the stealing by the apparatus of the 2020 election, it's totally logical. And President Trump's the moral courage I Say, if you take Jack Kennedy's book Profiles and Courage, which at that time, in the late 1950s, they took every great moral victory of politics. And, you know, he and Sorensen, I think, had 10 examples. If you take that book and triple it, it's one half of President Trump's moral decision to come back and say, I don't care what they try to do to me, including put me in prison, I am going to fight this, because if I don't fight it, we're not going to have a republic. Eric Trump, your thoughts?

[Eric Trump]

No one's stronger. No person I have ever met in my life even compares to that man and his courage and his tenacity and his fight every single day. But, Steve, I remember how bad it hurt when we're sitting in the Blue Room in the White House, 2020, and we, quote, unquote, lost. We didn't lose. Everybody knew. I mean, no one actually believes that Joe Biden got 16 million more votes than Barack Obama did in 2012. Give me a break. I mean, universally on both left and right, everybody knows that. That's. That's bs. But honestly, it's the greatest thing that ever happened to us. As painful as it was at the time, we knew we didn't lose. We fought our butts off. We were tired. We were. I mean, we had that one. The enthusiasm gap was 10x. It wasn't even close. I would counter narrative, you know, his rallies. I would talk across the street, Steve. And literally, I'd have a thousand people. And he couldn't fill his little yellow circles. But it's a law of unintended consequences. And I really do believe that God guided all of that. I mean. I mean, think about it. The media is dead. The mainstream media is dead. No one likes them, no one trusts them. Right? You have a Republican Party that's willing to fight. You've got the Senate, you've got the House. You've got a 6:3 majority on the Supreme Court. You obviously have the executive branch. You have a killer cabinet of people who are phenomenal. You've got great ambassadors all over the world. You've got people like Steve Wyckoff in there doing incredible jobs. None of this would have been possible. You wouldn't have had the Senate, you wouldn't have had the House. You wouldn't have had the same, you know, majority. You wouldn't have had. You would have had, you know, so many kind of people from the old Cabinet. There was plenty of fine people, but you would have had the baggage of all of Them. It honestly took us coming out for four years and being at the lowest part on the totem pole, right, to realize who our true friends were, who were there in the bad times, who were there when we were weak. I mean, Steve, I talk about it a lot, and my father talked about that in the Art of the Deal, you know, in the Art of the Comeback when he wrote his original business books about the days where the phones stopped ringing. You better believe after 2020, the phone stopped ringing. I'm not talking about the American people who absolutely adored my father. I'm talking about from the establishment and the people you otherwise thought were your friends. And, you know, having those four years in those courtrooms to know who is sitting by your side and who is your friend and who is showing up every single day and being able to empower those people to sit next to you in government. You could never have that same experience again because those people are all tested. Those people are all battle hardened, you know, and those people are willing to go out there and fight. And the establishment is weak, and my father is strong. And people understand these people for who they are. And there are so many times you can cry wolf before people get it. America gets it. My father is strong. He's making transformational change. The Democrats are weak. And honestly, as painful as it was, those four years were the best thing that ever happened.

[Steve Bannon]

Clearly, when you read the book Under Siege, and like I said, I recommend that everyone gets it for themselves, because although we covered it day in and day out, I remember on the afternoon of the 20th of January, 2021, when Boris Epstein was at Andrews when it left and we played my way on the. On the show and talked about, there was never any doubt of this audience that don't want to hear Ron DeSantis, don't want to hear any of it. Nikki Haley, forget it. It's destiny. This hat you. It has to be Trump. The American story demands that it's Trump, but clearly he's a man of destiny as we go, because you don't really get into. The book is great about the years in the wilderness and the great fight to come back today. When you see things that happen, like yesterday, which your father nailed it, it's 3,000 years of vendettas. 3,000 years. And it even transcends religion. It started even before Islam was around. It's deeper. It started before Christianity was around, the hatred over there. The mistrust has been thousands of years. And you see for the first time an architecture of where you actually could have peace and you have people working together and pulling together particularly. That's why I thought the meeting in Egypt was breathtaking in thinking that through and you being the guy that was there every day. As a man of destiny, where do you think this takes us? Not just in the second term, but where do you think he takes America and the world?

[Eric Trump]

Well, Steve, it's kind of interesting when you say that because I think for the longest time Americans were almost like, you know, almost glorified war, right? I mean, you know, look at the Gulf War with Norman Schwarzkopf and everybody, you know, I mean, you know, a lot of patriotism about going in and, you know, kicking bad guys butts and doing everything. And now I think peace is actually being glorified in the world for the first time ever. And I don't think it's something that people are spending a whole lot of time talking about, but I actually think it's society's changing. I think society's changing from a lot of, you know, kind of hard lined American people who go in there and pump their chests and, you know, and want to kick butt and take names and God bless. I'm a red blooded Republican. There's no one that likes that stuff when it's warranted more than me. At the same time, now all of a sudden you're sitting there having a lot of people saying this is senseless. Spending 20 years in the Middle east at the cost of trillions of dollars that could have been invested in our schools and our roads and infrastructure is senseless. The military complex in this country, it's crazy. It's run away from us in ways that we can't even imagine. The senseless spending, the death and destruction, you know, the just maimed kids that are coming back from sitting on ridges in Afghanistan for months and months, getting mortared every single day. We don't want it anymore. America doesn't want it. We want to invest in ourselves. We don't want to be the police force of the entire world. And by the way, all these other countries don't want it either. It doesn't benefit anyone. So let's stop the wars. I mean, I was personally in the room with Cambodia, in Thailand when my father stopped that conflict. I remember him calling both people and you know, and that conflict stopped, you know, virtually right away. And he's ended. This is the seventh or eighth war that he's ended. Right? I mean, there are kids in the world that are alive because of his actions. A lot of them, you know, the world is A better place. And so, you know, I just love the fact that people are rejoicing around the world in peace. I hate the fact that the Nobel Peace Prize can't get their arms around it and they're politicized and, you know, they won't do the right thing. But, you know, universally, when you have, you know, when you have every side of every conflict coming out and saying, you know, President Trump got this done and it wouldn't have happened without him, and we're thankful to him. And, you know, it's a proud moment. It's a really, really proud moment.

[Steve Bannon]

This nation has been blessed with three individuals that are extraordinary because they define their time. General Washington in the revolution and the founding of the nation, Abraham Lincoln in the rebirth of the nation, and Donald Trump in the rebirth and reclamation of this nation. You cannot understand. There's lots of books written about Washington. There's more, even books written about Lincoln. There are very few books actually written about President Trump where you actually start to understand the man and the character of the man and his family. This book is by far the best. Under Siege. I strongly recommend it to everyone in this audience. It'll be the journey you took for four years. You understand the details of it. It still has a powerful impact when you see it from the inside. But what you need to do is share this book with your family and friends. Get copies for them, particularly the ones that around the Thanksgiving table or Christmas are the ones that just. You can't mention Trump's name because they'll get into a mood. Have them read this book. Have them read this book and then talk to them afterwards. Eric, where can people get you on social media? And where can they get the book, sir?

[Eric Trump]

Well, it's number one on Amazon right now. Go to Amazon. We're winning every category. We're the number one book on all of Amazon and in every category, whether it's government, politics, nationally, et cetera, I'm incredibly proud of that. I mean, I never thought this would be my calling, but it certainly has become. And go follow me on Eric Trump is my handle on virtually all the social media. And you can go to Barnes and Nobles and everywhere else, but number one book in the country right now, Steve, incredibly proud of that. And that says a lot about our movement and the love of all the people who support my father, support our family, and who have been the most amazing patriots this country has ever seen.

[Steve Bannon]

Eric, you said at the beginning that you don't know is worth the time. It's definitely worth the time. In addition, and people know that I'm a big reader and we talk to a lot of authors on this show. This is a beautifully written book. It is very powerful. It's very there are a lot of books that are just typing. This is that. No, this is writing. I'm telling you, you could buy this is why I'm telling people, if you have one thing to do to help your family come together, buy this book and give it to the people that hate Trump the most. Give it to the people that hate Trump the most. It's a beautiful, it's a magnificent character study. Eric Trump, thank you for taking time this morning and to do a couple of blocks in the war room. Appreciate you, Steve.

[Eric Trump]

Thank you, my friend. Good seeing you.

[Steve Bannon]

Thank you, sir. Boy, Eric was right about 2016 and he's right about this. Here's the thing, this audience, you guys know, particularly the folks have been with us for years and years and years. How dark those days were. I say the years in the wilderness, but particularly those days, remember, remember January and February and March and April of 2021. I mean, actually until things like President Trump's CPAC speech, also the count the vote in county in Arizona didn't turn out. It was, you know, totally screwed up. But people put their shoulder to the wheel. People out there in Arizona were just magnificent. You started to see the ability of MAGA to hang together and not, you know, FOX News and Rupert Murdoch, that email that said they're going to make Trump a non person, you didn't allow it. If you want to know why what was going on behind the scenes and why that fight was worth it, get the book Under Siege. Extraordinary. And I know Eric pretty well. I'll be honest, I didn't know he was this kind of writer. But it is a beautifully written book and a very powerful book. That excerpt I read towards the end of the book is how the entire book is and Eric did it himself. Okay, short commercial break. We had a lot to go through today. We're going to chop some wood here in the war room. Maybe today is the day that you text Bannon B A N N o N at 989-898 to get the ultimate guide for investing in gold and precious metals from Birch. Gold gold above 4100.

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Just some logistics. So at 12 noon, we'll be pitching to the Charlie Kirk Show. They're doing the Charlie Kirk show today live from the White House. Then at two o', clock, Jack Posobic in Human Events Daily. Jack is going to be doing the show live from the White House. And then at 4 o', clock, that'll be during the Eric Bolling show. And of course, as you know, given that the President is trying to juggle a million things, sometimes though start late, I know that may shock this audience. So we'll be, we're going to cover it live anyway at 5, even if it's a post game and have folks on. But Charlie Kirk, Erica Kirk and the family are going to be awarded. Charlie's going to be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is the highest civilian medal in the country. And President Trump is going to do came back to that, that yesterday was a day trip. We talk about their decades in which nothing happens. There's weeks in which decades happen. And look at yesterday, 3,000 years of bitterness and hatred. In fact, that that Great line he had. We're going, we got, we got to rise above the bitterness and hatred in vendettas to do it. It's a long way to go there. But the framework's there and you can see out of Egypt you've got the Arab nations and the Muslim nations on board. Obviously in Jerusalem the Jewish people are on board. I know a lot of that was about the year euphoria of having the hostages released. But it's deeper than that. They understand, you know what 1000, 2000, excuse me, I think it's 2000 prisoners including bad hombres. 250 of the top terrorists over there are being released or in the process of being released. So there's a long way to go. But you can see how that can be made to work. Although the reality is it is a two state solution. Don't let anybody spin it any other way. With Qatar, the other Gulf Emirates, Saudi Arabia putting in tens of billions of dollars because we don't want any American money to have to go in there. With Turkey committing to form a security force of the essentially an Arab Legion. Arab Muslim nations of which they would organize at the beginning. 200Americans in Doha at CENTCOM already there as a collateral duty will help do some of the logistics or organization because is a massive, massive, massive effort. If you've seen any of the footage coming out of Gaza in the last 24 hours, it's as I say, it's Dresden. It's Dresden in 1945 or almost like Hiroshima where you know there's not in many places not even a building standing or if they're standing they look like they get hit by a, a nuclear weapon. So huge by the way we're trying to. And also in middle of all that and that's why things may be, even the shows may have some may have to juggle because Malay is coming to the White House. And this is part of what I say is this four things you've got to kind of keep in balance. Number one is the insurrection here in the United States. Right. Which is going on. And I believe the insurrection act should be implemented immediately to make sure that we can put this down and start to deport all 10 to 20 million. And I realize that many people in the Republican Party are getting weak kneed on that. It has to happen. You've also got what Malay represents, whether we like it or not, a bailout or an investment in a country that's looked at as central to hemispheric defense. Now I'm not a Big fan of malaise. I'm not a big fan of economic policies. I said I thought a lot of them were kind of kooky at the beginning. But we are where we are in this. Both we got massive issues in Brazil with the Bolsonaro and obviously Lula, you've got this situation in Venezuela that we want to make sure it doesn't go to kinetic war as we try to solve that problem. 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And on top of that all is this trade war with the Chinese Communist Party. Now, I think the president has kind of technically walked back the 100% tariffs. I think it's all a little confusing. Scott Besant's on it, the trade reps on it, Peter Navarro's on it. Obviously, the president spent a lot of time. Everything I just talked about right there, that's all signal not the sideshow of the Middle East. Where the Middle east gets to be important. Is Saudi Arabia and Iran providing oil and gas to the ccp. To me, that ought to be restricted. They ought to be. Absolutely. The mood is particularly. Ought to be shut down immediately. You want to. You want to have a. The people in Iran start to rise up against the dictatorial leaders. Well, cut off the. Cut off the oil going to. Which you can do easily because sanctions cut off the oil to the. To. To. To China. Same with our allies, Saudi Arabia. Got to have a discussion with this. Say, hey guys, uae. Hey. 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