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Episode 4861: Remembering The Fallen Marines; The Next Generation Of MAGA
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. You're just not going to get a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big lie? MAGA MEDIA I wish in my soul.
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I wish that any of people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. WAR ROOM here's your host, Stephen K. Ban. It's Saturday the 18th of October, year of our Lord 2025. We're here in Texas today, north of DFW. I've got Brian Harrison joins me for this hour. And because we're focused on grassroots in Texas, we've also got Lee Wams. Guns is Wambs Gun is going to be whether she's running for the Senate. She's going to join us. Co host for the next hour. We're also juggling all the all the information we're getting out of the Moms for Liberty summit down in Orlando, Florida. And we're going to be going shortly About Marine Corps 250, the 250th anniversary celebration commemoration in Camp Pendleton today, an amphibious assault. You're gonna get to see live that Amanda Head, John Solomon's partner is going to be out there hosting that. We're going to get all this. Michael Pack, the great filmer. He's going to join us in a moment. One of the best filmmakers about the United States Marine Corps. I want to go back to the summit, Tina Deskovitz. Tina, quite frankly, you teed it up yesterday for us, but man, this thing is on fire. The energy, you can feel it. The multi generations, the turning point. We took the whole segment from the Turning Point kids coming up to the Turning Point video to Benny Johnson's just amazing witness. Talk to us about your feelings this morning as your summit is literally on fire.
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Oh, it's been such a powerful morning. Unfortunately, I've had too many tears already this morning through the Charlie Kirk tribute. Having those kids on stage, seeing the future of America here with Moms for Liberty this year has been very moving. And remark right now on stage while we're out here is Benny Johnson with our dad's panel. And I was in there for the first few minutes of it, the crowd just keeps going crazy in there. So I think they're doing a really good job. I know Terry Schilling is out there and on the stage and he has seven kids and he just announced that number eight is on the way. And the crowd just went wild.
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Unreal. And then Benny committed to, I think, number five. Tina, what do you want to see come out of this? You've got great speakers, high energy, a broad range of F folks. But what is, what's the purpose? What are we trying to drive towards?
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Well, ultimately, we're here to educate and empower, to give parents the tools they need to go back in their communities to save not only our country, but we're realizing Western civilization. It's becoming a much bigger, more broad mission as we do this work. And so that's the grassroots hard work that's going on here. But at the high level, it's just great to be together with your people that believe the same, feel the same, have the same mission. That's what brings the energy and the excitement and the inspiration and really fills all of their cups to be able to go back and do this.
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What was it that you did in starting this parental rights movement that so triggered the teachers unions? I mean, obviously, we gotta be blunt. You've got an enemy in the teachers unions. They've targeted Moms for Liberty as one of their single biggest problems. And they want to make sure you never get another school district seat, that you're driven out of the schools, you're driven out of the libraries. What was it that you guys brought that drove the teachers unions go absolutely nuts?
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I think it was that first year when we won like 200 and something school board seats out of the blue. They were panicked. They've had such a strangle stronghold on education for decades. You know when you go in and you meet school board members. I served on a school board. I was shocked at how many were former teachers union members. You can't be a member while you're on the school board. You still have the same ideologies in your brain. And what was happening is you actually were negotiating. So if you're a teachers union member and you leave the teachers union once you're elected and you're negotiating with the head of the teachers union for everything, salaries, taxes, when school starts and stops, all of these things, you're just negotiating with yourself. There's nobody at the table, there's nobody representing kids or parents. And it's my opinion that that's why education has just tanked in America. So Moms for Liberty comes on stage. We're like, oh, not anymore. Parents are taking this back and started with the school board races and you know, we've upset all of their policies and their agenda. We call them out for their nonsense and of course they're our enemy.
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Bo, you talked yesterday when we started the broadcast with you anchoring for us in Orlando, that you're a new dad and you're there and you keep looking for the dads, the dads for Liberty. And it's become a. It's become pretty big. Right. Benny's on the stage right now. What does that mean to you?
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Well, it means a lot. Tina was just talking about that, saying she was catching some of the panel. I think it's a big thing for one thing. And I think Tina may could address it too. Is there a future for Dads for Liberty? Will there be that? Benny has intimated it. Maybe it'll happen. But I'm thinking about, Steve, just the things that I need to be thinking about as a new father. School choice, parental rights, parenting in the digital era, screen time, all the things that are being discussed here. So as I mentioned to you yesterday, Steve, it is a learning experience for me. And so I kind of want to just ask Tina as well in terms of being a new dad and for all those new dads out there, as I look to my school choice for my kid, what are the two or three things I need to be thinking about right now in preparation for the. For what's coming for me?
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Yeah, number one, it's actually very basic. Is the school using phonics to teach your child to read. For at least a decade now, America's been on this quest for a new way to teach reading. And obviously it's not working. We only have a third of kids in America that can read proficiently by fourth grade. And so number one question when you walk in is, are you teaching phonics? Like how are you teaching my kid to read? And so, you know, you can go to momsoliberty.org and we launched M4L academy.org where we are giving. That's where all the tools and resources are located. And we put together a back to school toolkit. There you can see the questions that you should ask the teachers in the school to try to select not only where your students should go to school, but what's happening to your child in that school. We also provide opt out forms. So if there's something that's going on there that you don't want to participate in. We've given you sample forms and letters that you can use to opt out of the things that might be not in alignment with your values.
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Yeah. And Steve, you know, I also think that in line with what Tina said, Florida, being here in Florida has set a standard. It set an example, I think, for what the rest of the country can follow. And I gotta say, Steve, thank God I'm in this free state of Florida to raise my child. But these are things I've gotta be thinking about now. And I know there's a lot of dads out there that may not even know what Moms for Liberty is. But as Tina just said, you can go on the website and find the resources that you need right now. And that's what I'm gonna do.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Tina, your social media, the website, where do people go? We're going to be covering this all day. It's absolutely amazing. But I want to make sure people get the inside. Baseball.
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Moms for Liberty.org is our website. I'd ask everybody to join and become a member. It's free. And you can be a dad and be a member, too. You don't have to just be a mom. So do that so we can stay in touch and we can tell you the things that are going on within our organization. You can catch us on all social medias. Mom number four, Liberty. And I'm Tina Deskovich on all socials.
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Tina, thank you so much. Bo, we'll come back to you. I know we got a bunch of interviews. And, Bo, make sure you fill out that your. Your membership of Moms for Liberty today.
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And we'll do it in the break.
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Okay? We'll come back to you guys as well. Tina. Tina, Love you. Let's roll. So the free state of Florida. We have two anchors in the MAGA movement. And look, Ohio's amazing. Georgia's amazing. You know, you got all these amazing states that Arizona we got. They've got the bedrocks, right. But the foundational elements of Florida and Texas, and you guys are very competitive with each other, competing. Now, I assume that none of these problems we're talking about. It's because, folks, that I know so many Texans and, you know, it's kind of their own republic. They're so proud of the university. Used to be there were. They're so proud of Texas A and M. University of Texas. They brag all the time about their education system. So I know that all the issues that Tina's talking about in education couldn't Possibly be in the state of Texas.
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Now, as a native Texan who loves this state, who likes to believe that the state of Texas is or should be number one in just about everything, I hate to say it, as an elected official here in Texas, Florida is just straight up kicking our butts.
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Is that serious?
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They're running circles around. You mentioned the Moms for Liberty thing, school choice. Florida has been leading the fight against teacher unions. And the state of Texas, you know, I think just passed probably the biggest teacher union bribe in the history of America. Last session called HQ. Almost $10 billion. No, the teacher unions.
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Yeah.
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How could that possibly be?
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Because it's how we.
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This. This is the Texas Republic of Texas.
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I know.
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It's a right to. Where you guys hate union.
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We are. Well, the people do. Yeah. It's. The government is all about the teacher unions here in the state of Texas and Florida. Talk about empowering parents. I mean, they started the parental empower movement and 30 years ago passed Education Freedom to let parents pick where to choose to send their kids to school. Texas, I think the only Republican state have anything until a few months ago. But unlike Florida, where it's actually universal and every parent can get to send their kid where they want, in Texas, our school Choice bill, only 1% of parents even get to benefit from this thing. And all the rest of the money was. Was shoved over to the teacher union.
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Since you've paid, you know, you're paying the teachers union. You've done this $10 billion bill. The results must be amazing. It's. It's worth. It's worth the cash you're giving them.
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Oh, it's. You either. You either laugh or cry, but it's an existential crisis. And that's why I'm so grateful for what the. The movement, Moms for Liberty. Not just in Florida, but across the country. Because we have liberal IND Indoctrination. Everyone knows about this. We talk about. You talk about it all the time. But it's not just a liberal indoctrination is going up. But the fundamentals of education are plummeting. And even in Texas. This breaks my heart, makes me angry. Actually. Only 24 of Texas 8th graders are proficient in reading. Full stop.
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Full stop. Not in the state of Texas. Only not as proud as you guys are.
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Only 23% of Texas 8th graders are proficient in math. So it's generational crisis.
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How can Abbott and these people, how can the political class in Austin accept that?
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Because the reality is for too long, the teacher unions, which again, the state of Florida has been doing battle with and the state of Texas, by the way, should be leading the fight against the liberal, Marxist, leftist, progressive teacher unions. Instead, we're taxing Texans out of their homes to subsidize the teacher unions. Everything that Trump supports.
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Walk me through that. Connect that, those. Yeah.
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Okay.
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So the way it happens is so people pay property taxes wherever you are in Texas. You, and you don't.
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And you don't have a state income tax.
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You don't have a state. So the property tax is right, we have them, but they don't have to be the highest in the country. We have the highest effective property tax rate in the country. So wherever you are in Texas, when you pay your school property tax bill, I'll walk you through this. What happens is your local districts, they don't take that money and do what you think they're doing with it, which is give it all to the teachers.
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Right.
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We should be prioritizing the teachers in the classrooms. What they're doing. They're taking that money and then handing it to liberal extremist organizations like the Texas association for School Boards. That the tasks of these groups and what they do, they take this taxpayer money and then they weaponize it against conservatives values, against their beliefs, against their children. And they pay for lobbyists to go down to Austin to lobby for more money for the teacher unions, to put boys in girls sports, to have, you know, men in girls bathrooms. This is what you're paying for when you pay property taxes in Texas. These school districts are handing it over to these taxpayer funded lobbying organizations and they are lobbying the state government to do everything that conservative Republican Trump voters oppose.
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We got a minute or two before we go to break. We're going to bring Michael Pack, the great filmmaker of the United States Marine Corps is going to join us to kick off the coverage of Marine Corps 250, which we're going to toss the baton to. Pass the baton to Amanda Head at noon here on the War room. What do people do here in Texas to fight that? Then if they're going to sit there and go, hey, we want great education, we don't want the unions driving thing. It's ridiculous that Florida and Texas are the leaders of kind of the freedom and liberty movement and in the country because they're the railhead of maga. How can you possibly have this in Texas? How do you break it?
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Well, I tell people all the time the most important and I think Moms for Liberty, I don't think they would agree with this. I think the Most important, most impactful office, political office in America today is your local school board. So, number one, we've got to have real conservatives run for local office. That's super important. But number two, demand that the governor, Texas lieutenant governor, and the Texas legislature stop giving even a single penny to the teacher unions. And that we've got to stop this egregious practice called taxpayer funding lobbying where we take property taxes and hand it over to liberal extremist lobbyists to force the Texas government to again put money back in the hands of teacher unions.
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You're paying for your own demise. I mean, this is what's unbelievable.
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Yeah, no, we're. We're funding the very destruction of the next generation to the indoctrination.
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It's almost like a Greek tragedy where the hero's strength is actually used against him to destroy them. Right. The. The great prosperity and entrepreneurial spirit and the hard work of the populist nationalist MAGA is actually used against to destroy their children and their grandchildren.
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And it's happening without the knowledge of Texas voters because Texas voters wouldn't stand for this if they knew about it. And that's why I'm so grateful to the posse and war room crowd for raising awareness, because when Texas voters and voters across the country, when they see the truth, they don't stand for it.
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So I arrived about 20 minutes, 15 minutes after this fight had begun. And it was at, I guess I would call it a bit of a stalemate. And the reason I say a stalemate is because wounded Marine inside, Staff Sergeant Chandler organizes a rescue party. They run in the room, try and shoot everything that, that they, that moves so they can pull this Marine out. As soon as they run in, what do the enemy do? They're smart. They throw grenades in the room. As they walk in the room, they blow up. Now I've got two more Marines wounded. The other two wounded Marines fall into the kitchen and they're trapped in this kitchen. So now we got four Marines trapped in the house because no one can go in this living room without getting blown up. Another rescue party goes in led by a corporal. Corporal Wolf goes in with a sergeant and they try and go in. Corporal Wolf gets shot in his flak jacket, falls on the floor. Sergeant Byron Norwood gets shot in the head, killed instantly.
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Then First Sergeant Brad Castle realizes that there are men in extremis hurt. He can hear the screams. He enters the house. He grabs Marines nearby, takes them in with him, begins to develop the situation inside the house, and in the process of maneuvering to an empty room, engages and kills a man at close quarters and is wounded in the process by a enemy above him. And in fact, he and his partner, his buddy, Lance Corporal Nichols, both are stitched down their legs with AK47 fire.
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These guys are in a very good position. The enemy there was not a very easy way to get to them. And at the same time, all of these rooms, the structure is very solid. The construction Iraq is very sturdy. Steel rebar, reinforced concrete, and sometimes triple layer brick. You couldn't shoot a missile through some of these walls. And so we couldn't bring any heavy weapons to bear, couldn't bring any grenades to bear, because we had too many of our own men wounded on the inside. So basically all we could use was our hands and our guns. So another Marine, PFC Boswood and myself, started taking this sledgehammer to the steel grate of this window.
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So the lieutenant goes in without their protective vests and plates on, etcetera, through the bars of a window that they manage to pull aside. This all in extremis. There's firing going on. There are grenades being thrown in the house. There's groups of Marines separated and trapped by this very effective dispute defense scheme. And Grapes goes in with Boswood. They identify the threat above them. They work out a scenario to. To suppress the enemy above them.
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We got four or five guns pointed up at these positions. And just like you'd imagine with a countdown. Okay, you ready? I'm not sure, you know. Okay, well, we're gonna go on three. Make sure you don't run in front of our guns, because we're gonna be shooting. And the old ready, set, go. And then we start unloading on these guys upstairs. And these two selfless Marines run across this kill zone not once, not twice, but four times to pull Marines out of the there. And we had some Marines in some pretty bad situations. Lance Corbell, Nick or PFC Nickel was bleeding really bad from his leg. First Sergeant Castle was carried out by those two Marines who aren't carrying any weapons, but still holding his weapon, ready to fight. And they were in bad shape, so we had to get them out of there as quickly as possible. But we still had these two guys in the. In the house, and they weren't going anywhere, and we weren't going anywhere until the job was done.
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They managed to get everybody out of the house alive. And Byron, they managed to get Sergeant Norwin out of the house.
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I was honored to be the executive producer of, I think, and I've been told by many Marines, one of the most powerful films ever made about the Marine Corps, the last 600 meters, the director, writer and director, Michael Pacht. And Michael, you chronicled, which I think is so important, these kind of forgotten battles, which are huge really, if you look at them, huge Marine Corps history in Iraq, in the Iraq war. The first battle of Fallujah, the battle of Najaf, and then the second battle of Fallujah, which is kind of the Mack Daddy, one of the most intense battles in the history of the Marine Corps. You do it through the. You do it through the eyewitness account of the Marines that fought there. Tell us about it.
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Well, in fact, you're right, Steve. Fallujah and Najaf are the biggest battles America has fought since Vietnam. And the purpose of the film is to tell the story, the ground truth in the words and deeds of the people who fought there. Not whether the war was right or wrong, but what happened in these battles. To tell it as a battle story, as if it were Gettysburg or Iwo Jima. And I think the right way to honor the men and women who've risked their lives for us is to celebrate what they did in battle. That's how they want to be remembered. Not discussing PTSD or anything else. They want that to be remembered in a fair, truthful way. And as you know, Steve, we don't really sugarcoat these battles. They were horrible meat grinders, and we depict them that way. And that's what counterinsurgency urban warfare is like. And the film is, you know, as you know, Steve, we completed a long time ago, 17 years ago, and for PBS and finally they're putting it on this year. But it's actually more relevant than ever now that, you know, if you look at wars in Gaza or Ukraine, they are very similar. And future wars will be like that, too. And we need to honor these, these men and women. They're mainly Marines. That's the Marine. You know, you're celebrating the Marines today, but Army, Air Force, too, but, but mainly Marines. And they are heroic. You can see it in that clip. You know, Jesse Grapes, he never would say this. It takes Willie Bules to say it. Imagine going into Hell House where your, your, your fellow Marines are pinned and taking your Kevlar and armor off to go in it's. It's mind boggling that.
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No, the heroism. That's why today on we're going to have a celebration of this film after what, over a decade, 17 years. PBS is finally I got to give a little history. In fact, I'm gonna hold you through the break. I gotta juggle this Imam Saler, but I gotta tell the story. So Pac, so he's first off the longest standing guy that hung in with President Trump in the first term, three years, would not bend to Mitch McConnell. They destroyed Michael Pack and says he's my hero because they destroyed Pac every day when he was gonna take over Voice of America and everything. And he says, I'm not gonna stop, I'm gonna get confirmed. And eventually Trump says, stick in there, we're gonna get you confirmed. It happened. But in the Bush administration, Michael was put in to basically be the content. Cuz it was so out of control to be a content guy. The left went nuts. The Bush administration folded, as they always do. But going out the door, they told Pac, hey, we'll give you as much money as you need or money to go shoot the phone book if you want to. And Pat Kimmy had this idea that, hey, this war in Iraq, it's so high tech. You got, you know, everything from Schwarzkopf, national events, oh, make a thing about the high tech part of the war. And Pat goes and does his research. He comes back in about six months, he goes, hey, you know what? I actually realized I'm wrong, that this war is going to be fought at the gunman to gunman. It's going to be down to 600 meters. And that's why this film is so incredible. You actually see what Marine rifle squads go through. This is when they call them grunts. You're seeing the grunt work. I mean, Michael, it's so intense because it's all eyewitnesses accounts of these battles in Iraq that really the media never covered. Particularly the urban warfare that they had to go through.
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Sir, I think that's right. And that accounts for today. The veterans of these wars are not adequately celebrated. I'm glad that you're doing it. Whatever you think of the war, these young men and women risk their lives for us. So I'm really happy that they are getting a chance to be celebrated and their efforts were heroic, as you see in that clip. But throughout the entire 90 minutes of the film. And we see it from the level both of the people on the ground and the people, the grunts as corporals and sergeants, but then a couple levels up, up to the one star generals that were actually in the field. No one back in Washington. Yeah, we think it's ground truth what it's like in these battles and that's the way to celebrate the Marine Corps is to understand what it's like to fight. So I think it's great that PBS is putting it on. It's going to be on the day before Veterans Day November 10th at 10pm all around the country. So I think it's a great time, a great slot.
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So November. Happy that.
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And we're happy to celebrate the Marine Corps November 10th.
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It's also the Marine Corps official 250th birthday. We're going to be doing a lot with Michael. We're not going to be out in panel today. We're going to do a lot around the 10th. Also we're doing aren't we doing on the October 30th, are we doing a live screening of this in Washington?
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We are indeed. We're screening it on October 30th and we're going to try to get a lot of the veterans to come. My wife, who's my business partner and was an executive producer along with Steve, is working to reach out to all of them and a lot of them, you know, want to come. Not all of them are even in the area. I mean, it's been a long time. You know, we were lucky to be able to interview them two years after the battle when their memories were fresh and they look like they do in the footage now it's 17 years later. They've all had their own complicated lives. But many of them really want to come and those that aren't coming want to watch it and tell their families to watch it. And you're right that even though it's never been broadcast on pbs, it's sort of people have heard about it, people talked about it, you and I. Steve took it to a bunch of military bases a while ago to raise money. So people have heard it. They've been waiting for it. People remember it even 17 years later. I think it's broadcast and its screening will be a big event and I hope we can get some of the veterans from the Trump administration to come, too.
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We're going to do it big. Michael, hang on for one second. I got to the I got to have you tell the story when you come back on the day of Marine Corps 250 out in camp Pendleton. Just extraordinary. Michael Pax is the nicest generalist. Have you looked at your power bill lately? Electricity Prices are at all time highs and they're only going up even worse. Power outages are becoming more and more common. In fact, according to the Department of Energy, Blackouts could increase 10,000% over the next few years. If you don't have a backup generator for your home, it's time to get one. The one I Recommend is the Grid Dr. 3300 solar generator from our friends at my Patriot Supply. Unlike gas generators, it's quiet, fume free and safe to use indoors. Yet it's powerful enough to run almost everything in your home. And with the free solar panel included, you'll have unlimited off grid power to outlast any storm, blackout or grid failure. Best of all, you can get the grid Dr. 3300 for zero down and as little as 104 bucks a month when you shop@my patriotsupply.com Bannon that's right, 3300 watts of backup power delivered to your door for zero dollars down. See the page for more details@mypatriotsupply.com Bannon that's my patriotsupply.com Bannon this electricity issue is huge. Deal with it today with the Grid Dr. 3300 from my patriotsupply.com Bannon here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. Okay, today in the war room, we are going, we're in Orlando with the Moms for Liberty Summit. We're here in Texas. Talk about the grassroots movement, this burgeoning grassroots movement in Texas. We're also going to be at Camp Pendleton. Real America's voice. Amanda head for Marine Corps 250. I want to go back to the Marine Corps official birthday, which is the 10th of November. Michael, you got to be so proud that now, 17 years ago they financed this film. As soon as they saw it, they go, no, we're not showing this because it's not about the politics of Iraq. It's about the heroism of this young generation. And they wanted no part of that but to select you to be what they're going to show on the evening of the 250th anniversary. The commemoration of the Marine Corps is very powerful. And here's how powerful the film is when MICHAEL we took it around to bases and we showed it to Marines and they loved it. It had an impact on them because it said, look, this thing doesn't put it's no phony glory here. This is not a Hollywood production. This is just, this is just grit and determination and true, the essence of courage when you have to do it against all Odds you're just going door to door and you can tell the entire time, this is a thankless, thankless job. Right? So you took it around though to Force Recon. Now, the Marine Corps, they don't have a Special Forces. They say they're all Special Forces, but the Special Forces of the Marine Corps is what's called Force Recon. And these are the ones that hit the beach, particularly in the Pacific early. You took it around to I think a gathering alumni of Force Recon. These guys got to be in their 80s or 90s at the time. And Pack, Joseph caused me afterwards and says, he says, hey, you know, I'm taking it to the bravest of the brave. All these guys sit there and go, I couldn't, I couldn't do what these kids do. And Pac's sitting there going, hold it, hang on. You're the bravest of the brave. What are you talking about? And he said, hey, In World War II, we were hitting the beach, we clear cut everything. You don't give up an inch. You don't, hey, you're not taking any prisoners. We're just going, right? Because with 17 and 18 year old kids, what these guys did, men and women had to kick down those doors and go in and what, 250,000 people in Fallujah, they sucked them all in. They wanted all the bad guys from Chechnya, they wanted all the bad guys in one place and they had to go door to door, room to room to clear it. Michael, pack your thoughts about the, the greatest generation's greatest saying that this was more powerful than anything they had done.
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It was very moving. I wish the veterans of the film were there with me. They were saying that, yeah, when they were clear island hopping in World War II, when they were in Iwo Jima or any of those islands, they were sent to the islands ahead of everybody else.
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Right.
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They're Forced Recon. But they said, as they used a politically incorrect word, if we saw a Jap, we kill them. That was it. We didn't have to think about it. These guys have to sort stuff out. Who's civilian, who's is this woman, you know, with carrying water, feeding her family or she hiding an ied. They have to sort things out that they would never have been able to do at 17. And they were really amazed by their courage and by the sophistication required of these, these young men and women. It was really moving. I mean, after we showed the film, there was silence. I thought, well, I wonder what they're thinking. And then they came out with all the stuff and they all agreed absolutely every one of them felt the same way. And so I think the audience will feel that way, too. By the way, Steve, you're always saying I'm a nice guy, but I do think that the opposition to me, both when I was working for President Trump and previously at CPB and elsewhere, wasn't personal. I never thought the people who were out to get me didn't like me personally. Most of them didn't know me. I think it was all about maintaining the left's complete control of the media and they did not want to give an inch. And in many of these cases, I represented a little bit of a crack, and even a little crack was not enough and was too much rather. And they wanted to destroy me for that reason, not because they dislike me. It was never personal. And you know that as well as anybody, Steve.
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Michael, you're a true hero. Where do people go to get to the company to your content, social media? And once again, 10pm Eastern Daylight Time on the 250th birth commemoration of the birthday Marine Corps, November 10th nationwide on PBS and then give the October 30th what we're going to do. And how can people possibly get tickets for that?
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Well, my social media is michaelpack on X, but I recommend they go to our websites. The one that for the last 600 meters is manifold Productions, M A N I F o L D productions.com and the one for our more recent work is Palladium Pictures, P A L L A D I u m pictures.com but you know, you can navigate from any of them. And, and, and we have a lot of other content, including other ones about war, but about politics and history. And you know, a lot of them are free or streaming somewhere and I recommend them all. And we have this event on October 30th. It's at the Navy Memorial. If people want to come, they should probably reach out via our website. My wife is in charge of those invitations and they're going kind of fast. And maybe, Steve, it's an event you could even cover. But of course you will be there, so that'll be good. And veterans will be there too, so it'll be a way to honor people in person. And we hope we can get Pete Hecseff or Tulsi Gabbard or someone from the Trump administration that was a veteran to come to honor these veterans that are there and sort of in advance of the anniversary of the Marine Corps.
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And Veterans Day, to the tip of the tip of the spear. Michael Pack, thank you so much. Honor to have you on here this morning.
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Thank you, Steve. Great to be on your show.
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Let's go to Bo. We're going to go back to the summit. We've got some very special guests. Bo Davison is there for an interview. Bo, what do you got for us, brother?
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Steve, you're going to love this. We talked earlier about the generational component, the generational legacy of Moms for Liberty. And I'm joined now by Reagan and Owen. These are two junior patriots, and I just found out about this just minutes ago, but basically, they've started a pilot program for Turning Point USA for middle schoolers. So we're talking about even the generation even younger than what we see at typical Turning Point USA events, which is incredible. And they've got these Build a Bears, which we'll get to in a minute. But Owen and. And Reagan, I want to talk to you guys first. So, Reagan, you're the president of this new chapter, and Owen, you're the vice president. Is that right?
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Yes.
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All right. So, Reagan, why did you start this?
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Well, so I went to SAS this summer, and I met Charlie, and I, like, not hung up, hung out with him, but, like, I talked with him for, like, four days. And then I. I didn't. I brought it up to him. Why don't we start a middle school chapter? And it was like, at first, and then it was like, okay, then we'll start the program and we'll try it. And so if everything goes well, then it will be open to pretty much the whole world next year, if everything goes well this year.
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And it's going well so far.
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Yes, it is.
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And this is in Land O' Lakes, right? Land O' Lakes. Okay, Owen, tell me more about it and your role as vice president.
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Yes. So we started me a couple, like, last week ago. We were. And we were at the meeting, we were doing, like, just grouping up, seeing all the people who joined.
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And.
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And then we celebrate Charlie Kirk's birthday after. And when we post it on our Facebook and social media, it went really viral.
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Wow.
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That's incredible. Reagan, tell me about. You got to meet Charlie, you got to hang out with him for a bit. I'm so glad you got the chance to meet him. What was that like? And like, what did it mean to you now since you've been inspired to start this new chapter?
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It was very special for me. So a fun thing was, so I was listening to him speak, and then he actually signed my Four Horses jacket on. Air. Because it was the first time that 4H was represented at a TP USA SAS event. And it was. It was just like my. Not mind blowing, but, like, more than that. It was, like, life changing for me.
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It's kind of funny that you had to convince Charlie to do it, because I would think he would see this. He'd be like, yes, yes, yes, we need to do it. But thankfully, you have started it. It is a pilot program, and I want to get to these bears, so. Oh, and you go to Build a Bear, and everybody knows you can go build a bear any kind you want. But these are special. These are like, Charlie Kirk bears.
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Right.
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So explain that.
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So we went there and we got bears. We found, like, a suit where he wears, like, his old fans.
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Let's take a look at it. Go ahead.
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And then we have his shoes, the.
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Red tie, the microphone, the Starbucks. Can you see the Starbucks cup? That's awesome, too. Okay, so that's your design.
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All right.
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And then some of them actually play messages. So, Reagan, you have one. If I could see it, that when you press the button on his hand. And we're going to put this as close to the mic as I can. Here's what happens. Do it for me.
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Ring. It's time that we start talking to.
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The next generation, not talking down to the next generation.
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And that's what we're doing.
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It's time to start talking to the next generation and not talking down. And that's what's in there. So, Steve, you can hear that in these Build A Bears, that the brilliance of this. They've not just designed the Build a Bear, they have actually put an audio recording of Charlie's voice. The level of innovation, of charisma, of leadership of these new junior patriots is blowing my mind right now. The fact that they would think to not just start the chapter, but then have this tool, this educational tool of a Build a Bear.
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Hey, Reagan, let me ask you a question, because I knew Charlie, you know, extremely well, and, you know, he was a obviously very new guy. He followed us on Real America's Voice for four years. And knowing how Charlie thought when Charlie. Because he's always thinking about how you mitigate risk, how you do things and drive organizations. But Charlie was very thoughtful and thinking through. What did you. How did you talk him into it? He originally said, I don't know. I got to think about it. What did you tell. What did you tell Charlie Kirk to sell him on the idea?
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Well, so it was like a maybe idea at first. Like I said, and then so what happened was he was like, okay, let's do it. We'll give it a try. We'll see what happens. And so that's how it got started. And so, so far, everything's going well. And we had our first meeting on October 1st 14th, actually. So.
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Amazing, guys. Just fantastic. How do we get. They have social media. Is there a website, Bo?
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Where.
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Where do we go to follow them?
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It's a good question.
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I don't know.
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With Junior Patriots. I don't know. Do you have social media?
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We do. We're on Facebook and Instagram for Club America. Junior Patriots club.
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Froze.
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Okay. They froze. Okay. Let's just make sure we get it up. Amazing.
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Talking.
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Talking Charlie Kirk and talking Charlie Kirk is something. Charlie was very. Had a certain way that he rolled. I just think it's great. That's one of the best stories I. I've heard. It's also one of the reasons I never work with kids or dogs. Right. They're complete. They steal the scene. No. Absolutely fantastic. And I think it's so great that they came after Michael Paak. And you talk about the sacrifice. And this is what I say. The reason, even as dark as you think it is the reason I think. And I said this on the Tucker interview the other night. I feel absolutely great. Because you see this younger generation, I think the young men are the most based generation in the world. And one of the reasons I said guys from 18, from 18 to 30, the reason is, is what their uncles and brothers did in the Iraq and Afghan war. And you see these, you're gonna see this in the last 600 meters. When you can impress the force Recon Marines at Peleliu and Tarawa. And they sit there, go, hey. What these kids did is. It's much more powerful than what we did because we were just clear cutting and told you don't back up an inch and anything in front of you, you're just gonna get shot. These kids had to do it differently. That's passed down to America. And you see these kids right there just doing a great job. Okay, we got Harrison. A lot of news report out of Texas. We're going to get to it. We're going to take a short commercial break. Want to make sure everybody birch gold. Take your phone out right now. With gold blowing through. 4300 bucks. It's time. I think that you need to know the process. It ain't the price of gold. It's how it got there. And remember the big single biggest change, it went from a hedge which we've talked to folks about, how it's been a hedge for 5,000 years. Something's changed as Philip Patrick and the team has walked you through. It's now becoming a central asset like back in the 19th century of money center. 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So today across the country doing all this live and I want to thank Harry and the team at at the summit just doing an incredible job. The reason I wanted to come down here, I felt I needed to come down here to Texas, all the great, you know, sponsorship. We have the Texas people and we have a huge audience in Texas. And every time we've asked them to do something, whether it's fight to the, in the Paxton impeachment effort or recently in the redistricting which would not gotten done without this audience and really putting your shoulder to will with the other grassroots Texas is under. People understand the centrality of Texas in American history, in American culture, in American mythology. Remember John Ford said when, when the legend becomes fact, print the legend. Right. Texas is known all over the world, right. Not just for westerners but for this ethos of what Texas is about. It's the reason that Texas is a target. Now we just had this antifa thing John Solomon talked about. I want to talk to you about that. Internationally they're coming, but also internally we make a big deal here how we thwarted because when I was at Breitbart it was sources coming to Texas putting $300 million. You got Beto O' Rourke and all these guys, folks. And we said we beat that back. But in the process I learned in beating it back there was something deeper than just Soros. We have a problem that's deeper than just Soros's money. We have a culture and there's no place in this country with a bigger divide between the MAGA grassroots populist nationalist base and the political culture. Not even just the politicians, a political culture. So walk me through that first and I'm going to get to the Zantifa.
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Well, something I know you and I have spoken about many times, Steve, and the posse gets this. I mean, we need to never lose sight of what time it is in America right now. We're in a battle for nothing less than the future of Western civilization. And I firmly believe, as goes Texas, so goes the nation. As goes the nation, so goes the world. And even though the state of Texas you talk about the divide between sort of the RINO weak liberal establishment and sort of the Trump supporting conservative pro liberty based voters of Texas, it's just as big a divide between the perception of Texas. You know, people believe Texas is the number one state for liberty, freedom, low taxes, low regulation, small government, prosperity. But the reality is we've just been coasting on that reputation. Even though Texas isn't talked about as a battleground state politically very often, make no mistake about this, I firmly believe Texas is the crown jewel in the less planned to conquer our nation. If we lose the state of Texas, we'll never have a conservative Republican in the White House and in Texas, voters got to know this. We're not always going to have a bold, strong president like Donald Trump in the White House. And it's going to be incumbent on the big states to hold our country together. Especially the next time we have some leftist progressive in the White House like Joe Biden who was, you know, undermining law enforcement, throwing the border wide open to bring in 10, 20 million illegals and, and terrorists and drug cartels and everything else. So Texas is the line of the sand. It's a straight line, but from Texas to the future of our country and the future of Western civilization. And we've got a weak establishment liberal sort of core body of people that have been controlling this state for a generation now, too long if you ask me. And they're totally lost touch with the Texans and with our ethos. Rugged individualism, self reliance, freedom, liberty. These are the principles. They made our state and our country great. But, but far too often establishment weak Republicans are selling out the voters of the state of Texas and in doing so, they're selling out the future of our country.
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No, this is why it's more insidious than just, you know, the money of Soros and Soros's kids in these left wing groups.
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Right?
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Because you can kind of see that coming. But to know that they already really control the school system here, that it's not an independent school system. You got the teacher juniors who are some of the worst you've got. This infection has hit the, you know, people in Texas are so proud of the University of Texas system, Texas A and M system, Texas Tech and the private schools. And you see that this cultural Marxism is so deeply embedded. All the work that you guys have done and still they're doing. And only if you add them, only if you go in and say and show video of these professors. But that's just the surface of it. It's a systemic problem, right?
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I mean, why, why does it take people like me going on shows like War Room and showing undercover video and audio of leftist progressives who have been put in charge of our most cherished institutions, like my alma mater, Texas A and M. But I mean, here's the bigger question. Why the hell are leftist progressives being put in charge of anything in the Texas government? It's absolutely outrageous. So not only are we not this low tax state like people think, I mean, highest effective property tax rate in the country. I have people in my office, Steve, all the time in tears. They don't know how they're gonna be able to stay in their homes and their property that have been in the family for generations, have paid for and for what. So the Texas government can fund. But what's basically that the Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi AOC, Hakeem Jeffries agenda of DEI and transgender indoctrination. Hell, we give it $1.5 billion. We voted this just this last session to liberal Hollywood. I mean, the worst type of crony corporatism and corporate welfare is going on down here in the state of Texas. Taxpayers are being forced to fund the indoctrination of the, of the next generation, all at a time when education rates are plummeting. And we've got to, we've got, you know, people got to take their heads out of the stand. And unlike in D.C. where sort of the teams identify themselves, you know, radical Democrats, left wing media in Texas, people think if an elected official calls themselves a Republican that they support President Trump, they support the principles of our founding, they support freedom, liberty. And the reality is I've never seen anything as undermined it as duplicitous, as dishonest as elected Republicans who campaign saying, all vote for me. I'll stand up to the radical left, I'll fight the Democrats. But then when nobody's looking under the pink dome in the Capitol of Austin, they vote to empower those very Democrats and collude with them to destroy liberty in our great state.
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Brian had one of the most powerful jobs in the first term, which is chief of staff over at hhs because that's such a behemoth. One lesson we've learned here in the war room in Texas, if you exclude expose it, people jump on it, go, no, that's not going to happen. We've had huge victories. It all comes from the same thing, getting information out to the, to the Texas grassroots. Once you get them on something, they can't be stopped, they can't be beaten. And the establishment in the state knows this and the left knows us. I've asked Brian to stick around for the top of the next hour. We're also going back to, we're going to go back to the summit home. Hopefully Lee's here. She's out door knocking today as every candidate should do, trying to get Lee. And then obviously we're going to do a transition to Amanda Head in Marine Corps 250 live all day today, all afternoon today from Camp Pendleton, California, where the Marines are going to show you what an amphibious assault looks like. I think a couple, three things will be blowing up today. So if you want action, stick around on Real American America's Voice. We're gonna take a short commercial break. Make sure take your phone out for our sponsor, Birchgold 958 Bannon. B A N N O N 958. No, no, Birchgold at 989-898. Text that right now. You get access to Philip Patrick and the team in the Ultimate Guide for Investing in Gold and Precious Metals in the Age of Trump. Do not forget silver. That's why we wrote it up for both. See you back here in a moment. What if he had the brightest mind in the war room delivering critical financial research every month? Steve Bannon here. War Room listeners know Jim Rickards. I love this guy. He's our wise man. A former CIA, Pentagon and White House advisor with an unmatched grasp of geopolitics and capital markets. Jim predicted Trump's Electoral College victory exactly 312 to 226, down to the actual number itself. Now he's issuing a dire warning about April 11, a moment that could define Trump's presidency and your financial future. His latest book, MoneyGPT, exposes how AI is setting the stage for financial chaos. Bank runs at lightning speeds, algorithm driven crashes, and even threats to national security. Right now, War Room members get a free copy of MoneyGPT when they sign up for Strategic Intelligence. This is Jim's flagship financial newsletter, Strategic Intelligence. I read it. You should read it. Time is running out. Go to Rickards War room dot com. That's all one word. Rickards War Room records with an S. Go now and claim your free book. That's rickardswarroom.com do it today.